Europe Is Too Old

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  • @hoogyoutube
    @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +634

    ! Source Document and Important Video CORRECTIONS below !
    If you strongly disagree with the contents of this video, I would really appreciate it if you sent a critique in the form of an article to www.romuluseurope.eu, so that I can publish it and add it to this comment.
    All corrections and sources will be available in this source document, which I'll continue to add on to in the future:
    www.romuluseurope.eu/youtube/europe-is-too-old/
    Corrections*
    1. Will speak slower in the next video and make the transitions smoother.
    2. Quintiax provided a very good critique about the presentation of the statistics, you can read the full comment in the article I linked.
    3. Meh asked for sources that China is looking for high skilled migrants instead of relying on automation in the future, I've attached the two sources for this argument in the source document and linked it at the top.
    4. When I say that migrants are not controversial, I meant for that to be sarcastic. It is very controversial. Oops
    5. Practical theory brought up that Schengen is not the prerequisite for freedom of movement. This is true, freedom of movement is one of the core tenents of EU citizenship, but I think this just requires a clarification: Schengen is one of those actions that made freedom of movement be fully realized.
    Most important thing last: I am not an authority on truth. I can be wrong and will be wrong. Please remain critical of the content I produce.
    Anyways, thanks for watching :)

    • @roshanpatel7340
      @roshanpatel7340 3 роки тому +5

      There’s a channel called polymatter, and I think that they’re a really good example of explaining these sorts of topics. I think their pace while speaking really helps to understanding their videos. If you haven’t already, I recommend watching some of those.

    • @simonbolivar6960
      @simonbolivar6960 3 роки тому +22

      no need to speak slower, honestly the tone is passionate and engaging

    • @cezariusus7595
      @cezariusus7595 3 роки тому

      You earned my sub!

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE 3 роки тому +2

      I think China's policy as in the article linked about high-skill migration is a completely different policy (and for a completely different reason) than the one of immigration to prevent population collapse. What they seen to be taking about in China is having a comparatively small number of extremely high-skill migrants to help develop their technological segment towards self-sufficiency, but that would have little to no demographic impact in the aging of the population. Bringing in young people to keep the work force to fill in for unborn labor is both a completely different situation, it seems to me, and impossible in the Chinese case. A dispute for global talents is very different from the problem of demographic collapse.

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +4

      ​@@FOLIPE You might find this article interesting: www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---asia/---ro-bangkok/---ilo-beijing/documents/publication/wcms_565474.pdf "Recognizing the urgent need to attract skilled workers and professionals, and responding to the pressure of adverse demographic trends, the government of China over the last decade has made a series of policies aimed at attracting educated and skilled talent from around the world."

  • @wese6612
    @wese6612 3 роки тому +2172

    Migration or even family plans are not the solution here, if young people cant afford a home, have a stable job or reach financial independence quickly enough the birth rate will never increase. These are the underlying problems here which should be addressed

    • @admiral_waffles533
      @admiral_waffles533 3 роки тому +331

      "but muh real estate investements!!! How do i monetize poor people now??"

    • @maximus4765
      @maximus4765 3 роки тому +196

      -invite migrants to supply births to power welfare state
      -immigrants draw more from welfare state than they put in
      EU: oh shciess!

    • @kaliyuga1476
      @kaliyuga1476 3 роки тому +82

      There used to be a country in Europe that for each child, 25% is subtracted from the mortgage for young couples, in addition to a salary for housewives

    • @minzblatt
      @minzblatt 3 роки тому +92

      @@maximus4765 This is a often repeated lie of racists. Most immigrants are a net plus for most nations in the industrial world. So stop your fear mongering and explain how you plan to sustain a continent full of retired people who need 24/7 care with burden on all social levels without fleeing to fantasies. Robots aren't here and those that are definitely aren't capable enough(look at Japan), and universal basic income won't fix your problems either since nobody has managed to make it work yet even in small and limited models, let alone in big complex reality where you actually need those hard workers and soldiers to keep anything functioning.

    • @vinniechan
      @vinniechan 3 роки тому +45

      The monetary policies in the last decade or two is the greatest injustice to young people

  • @stbagn
    @stbagn 3 роки тому +4944

    “Europe has too many old peoples!”
    Japan has entered the chat…

    • @Otterstone
      @Otterstone 3 роки тому +132

      Greece isn't too far behind Japan though

    • @ipooponurface
      @ipooponurface 3 роки тому +186

      Monaco: japan too young
      *Japan left the chat*

    • @cowboydoggo6168
      @cowboydoggo6168 3 роки тому +103

      China is entering the chat…

    • @ipooponurface
      @ipooponurface 3 роки тому +19

      @@cowboydoggo6168 38 < 55

    • @SirFaceFone
      @SirFaceFone 3 роки тому +87

      China: Did somebody say demographic collapse?

  • @profmembrane1720
    @profmembrane1720 3 роки тому +2783

    This really deserves more attention. If populations continue to age and birth rates stay low, then the cherished welfare states across the continent will inevitably collapse. An equal ratio of Taxpayers to Pensioners is a recipe for disaster.

    • @darththork99
      @darththork99 3 роки тому +192

      Good. End the welfare state.

    • @wamnicho
      @wamnicho 3 роки тому +155

      @@darththork99 I completely agree, welfare is the worst thing to happen to Europe

    • @millevenon5853
      @millevenon5853 3 роки тому +114

      @@wamnicho South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan don't even have welfare states but they have the lowest birth rates in the world

    • @wamnicho
      @wamnicho 3 роки тому +247

      @@millevenon5853 Pensions are also part of welfare, those countries have social security or pensions which can also be classified as welfare. Don't think of welfare as just only lazy people getting a pay check, retirement and pensions are also welfare schemes that depend of a younger population to finance regardless of whether the retires had children or not

    • @edgardox.feliciano3127
      @edgardox.feliciano3127 3 роки тому +50

      @@wamnicho I thought that Social Security was paid by the user while he works until he retires, and then he takes advantage of it. Kinda like Saving up for retirement

  • @koffiegast
    @koffiegast 3 роки тому +207

    I already expect to retire by 72, have little pension from the state, prices increased too much. I already missed the boat on an affordable house (doubled/tripled in a few years), hence Im pondering to just migrate and say 'fuck it' to the EU that leave young people in the dark. Boomers could buy all the nice houses for cheap, could retire by 65 or earlier, prices were low, stocks boomed for decades and savings interests were high, the young people have nothing of that and stagnant wages, while competing with everyone else in the world.
    In the Netherlands I work in high paying IT sector and pay 50% tax. Meanwhile expats can come here to get 30% tax-free salary for the exact same job. How is that fair?

    • @fungo6631
      @fungo6631 3 роки тому +71

      Because your country is a tax haven. But hey! At least you have an LGBT prime minister!

    • @cakeisyummy5755
      @cakeisyummy5755 3 роки тому +17

      @@secretname4190 How is that Racist?

    • @folkishappalachian6827
      @folkishappalachian6827 3 роки тому +19

      @@secretname4190 he didn't mention non-white once, cope leftist swine

    • @vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489
      @vincentmalasawmkimajongte7489 3 роки тому +16

      @@folkishappalachian6827 I think he was being ironic

    • @Vorexia
      @Vorexia 2 роки тому +5

      @@secretname4190 Way to bring race into a discussion about nationality and tax.

  • @Nerf_Jeez
    @Nerf_Jeez 2 роки тому +39

    Greetings from Bulgaria! I just wanted to point out the fact that young people migrating to central Europe and the population growing older is indeed a well known problem here and that you are completely right that it's a serous issue. I never before thought of it as large scale urbanisation so thanks for bringing that to my attention!

  • @nicklasthomsen925
    @nicklasthomsen925 3 роки тому +3139

    I think it’s good that there’s coming more content by Europeans, normally there’s an oversupply of anglophone content on Europe

    • @christopherellis2663
      @christopherellis2663 3 роки тому +266

      The Anglophone world is due for a reset. That is, the UK and the USA are no longer its centre. Europe uses English on a daily basis, many native Anglophones don't know Standard English. I know a seven year old who is proficient in English, Romanian , and Spanish. There are many people who learnt English from television.

    • @cakeisyummy5755
      @cakeisyummy5755 3 роки тому +276

      @@christopherellis2663 Replace Television with the Internet, TV is a dying Media.
      Most people spend more time Online than infront of the Telly these days.

    • @ThatsThatOnThat
      @ThatsThatOnThat 3 роки тому +187

      English will continue to be the lingua franca of the world for the foreseeable future, if not “forever” according to some researchers, because of our increasingly globalized world and the internet. English no longer belongs to the Anglophone world. English belongs to everyone, as shown by the evolution of the language (adopting words from many languages spoken throughout the world, changes in grammar, phonetics etc). No other language has infiltrated the world as English has yet, and there are no other contenders to English’s status for now.

    • @MurdersAndExecutions
      @MurdersAndExecutions 3 роки тому +148

      @@christopherellis2663 This is made most apparent by the fact that the country with the 2nd largest of English speakers after the US is not the UK but India

    • @christopherellis2663
      @christopherellis2663 3 роки тому +5

      @@cakeisyummy5755 True for now, but not in the '80s.

  • @jhhwild
    @jhhwild 3 роки тому +2117

    People aren't having families because it's taking longer for people to become financially stable enough to afford kids. Dating isn't fun with such high standards and expectations. Also there are an increasing number of people who lack the social skills to interact with the opposite sex due to various issues like lack of experience, social anxiety, etc... People don't interact as much outside of social media so they aren't making connections with real people and finding love. Also there is an emphasis on short term fun with porn and casual sex with no need or urgency to procreate especially with a perception of an overpopulated planet and looming issues like global warming.
    In short kids cost too much money, dating sucks, social issues are prevalent, and there is no sense of urgency.

    • @hphp31416
      @hphp31416 3 роки тому +50

      lockdowns and pandemic may lower expectations

    • @revenger211
      @revenger211 3 роки тому +163

      Another obvious one us education. It's a common trend that educated people are more likely to be more cautious taking serious decisions like these to begin with, and if they do, they have a reasonable amount of children

    • @sotch2271
      @sotch2271 3 роки тому +183

      Before having kids was helpfull in working in the house/farm/mine but now they go to school 8h/day and play the rest of their free time so it became a financial burden, a big one
      Oh and the cost of living have gone up too

    • @vrsjwjwjwhwj2326
      @vrsjwjwjwhwj2326 3 роки тому +132

      Feminism and individualism ruined Europe.

    • @KM_OwO
      @KM_OwO 3 роки тому +80

      And for some unknown reason our countries think replacement immigration magically fixes all these issues, instead of worsening them and adding many more other issues.

  • @JJ-io4pe
    @JJ-io4pe 3 роки тому +487

    The other problem with immigration that is always ignored is that immigrants also grow old and eventually require care. It is just kicking the can down the road to prop up a system that relies on exponential population growth. Not to mention EU has to compete with US/Australia/Canada for highly skilled immigrants, all of which have brighter economic prospects than EU.

    • @Talonidas7403
      @Talonidas7403 3 роки тому +6

      Make it so non-citizens don't get welfare after retiring. Problem solved

    • @cakeisyummy5755
      @cakeisyummy5755 3 роки тому +27

      @@Talonidas7403 But Migrants end up obtaining Citizenship and a Passport after a long enough.

    • @gaston6814
      @gaston6814 3 роки тому +33

      And a less scary language barrier, as everyone around the globe is taught English in school.
      I will fill my Blue Card initiative profile after graduating, if I'm summoned to Europe before getting a chance to go to NZ, Australia or Canada, I'll take it; I just wanna escape from South America ASAP.

    • @elhumbo7858
      @elhumbo7858 3 роки тому +48

      @@Talonidas7403 that is fucked up, why should they even pay taxes if they won't reap the benefits?

    • @erenbatuguzel8226
      @erenbatuguzel8226 3 роки тому +12

      @@Talonidas7403 you know nothing about citizenship laws, do you?

  • @Drakonus_
    @Drakonus_ 3 роки тому +144

    "Europe is too old"
    Japan: **Already in grave**

    • @thetreatment498
      @thetreatment498 3 роки тому

      Both are really old🤭

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 2 роки тому +4

      Europe is a continent japan is a country that doesn't make Europe's situation better

    • @Drakonus_
      @Drakonus_ 2 роки тому +5

      @@wankawanka3053 Couldn't really make a country to country comparison, nor a continent to continent comparison. Since no other continent can match Europe in this context, and no other country can match Japan in this context. But if you do have a better comparison, go ahead.

    • @kusumavathyk489
      @kusumavathyk489 5 місяців тому

      Heard that, japanese old people work until they can to help employee deficit

  • @lucimicle5657
    @lucimicle5657 3 роки тому +294

    This is the first video I see from this channel and I will binge-watch the rest now. I am not sure if this is only a feeling but I feel like the number of channels discussing European and EU topics is increasing and that makes me happy.
    Also, this topic is very important, especially for us in the east. In Romania we had two big waves of migration to the west after '89 and then after being accepted in the EU. For me as an urbanite, I feel the need to emigrate has lovered then for my parents, I can do well here too. But for many in the rural areas moving in the city, either in the country or the wider EU is a huge trend. I've seen many depopulated villages.

    • @nefas3904
      @nefas3904 3 роки тому +6

      It's sad. In Italy we ha have a lot of romanian immigrants, but sometimes I ask to myself "what will remain of Romania, or Moldavia?" Why people cannot be happy and richer where they are, maintaining theyr native culture? :/

    • @cakeisyummy5755
      @cakeisyummy5755 3 роки тому

      If the mass Emigration didn't happen, then Romania ruralites would've moved to Bucharest and friends instead.
      The Difference would be that Romania would get more Tax money rather then Western Europe.

  • @RJ-tr8vt
    @RJ-tr8vt 3 роки тому +497

    I've just found this channel, today and already binged trough all your videos! It is amazing how you manage to explain complex problems in a way that is understandable but not oversimplified.
    I have a feeling that this channel is going to be huge in a year or so!
    Keep up the great work :)

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +27

      Thank you, I will :)

    • @tishingof
      @tishingof 2 роки тому +1

      @@hoogyoutube 💪

    • @snickle1980
      @snickle1980 Рік тому

      isn't it great when you find a new channel to binge? I remember finding Soviet Womble...that was a good catch.
      But then comes that moment when you run out of content... 😂

  • @roshanpatel7340
    @roshanpatel7340 3 роки тому +71

    Great work again guys. Demographics is one of my favorite topics and I’m glad you covered it.

  • @TotallMax13
    @TotallMax13 3 роки тому +19

    UA-cam recently started recommending you to me and I'm loving this rare find so far!
    From the EU channels that I've seen so far, this has to have some of the most potential. Unlike just covering the recent "news", you rather dwell into the deeper questions about the identity and purpose of EU, and make them look awesome, of course. Getting some EU Lemmino vibes. Thank you!

  • @Venator-711
    @Venator-711 3 роки тому +415

    I am from Croatia and I basically learnt nothing new from this video. Don't mean to be condescending, just to say that we (as in, Europeans) are taught about this in schools with most older people being aware of it as well. This video does a great job of presenting the problem at hand to the rest of the globe, however, I must admit, I thought that everyone already knew and understood this.

    • @ovencore2549
      @ovencore2549 3 роки тому +27

      i didnt know this and i live in Europe

    • @Venator-711
      @Venator-711 3 роки тому +67

      @@ovencore2549 well, its great that now you know.

    • @minzblatt
      @minzblatt 2 роки тому +29

      Yep, from Germany here. And the issue is well known definitely. Only the "solutions" I hear from politicians are changing. In the end, this can go pretty smooth or pretty awful pretty quick in the near future since I see a depletion of S+SE Europe of young people to the west, which itself is still in need of "more" people to maintain whatever industry, manufacturing and public services it needs to keep running.

    • @urgannagru9068
      @urgannagru9068 2 роки тому +6

      We got taught this in school in the UK too, though I was taught this before the retardation that is Brexit so who knows now?

    • @strafniki1080
      @strafniki1080 2 роки тому +6

      dont worry west is full of trans and gays and stuff normal people will go on our side

  • @cortempestas2982
    @cortempestas2982 3 роки тому +444

    What hold be back from having children, is housing prices and stagnant wages. If you want to have children you will need a big apartment but that would take half of your salary. Today, companies don't raises salary which means you will need to job hop every 2-3 years for significant salary increases which makes it difficult to plan to buy a house/apartment and start a family. There are solutions that would solve this problem and would not be controversial with the majority, but unfortunately, it will upset the elites that own all the property and the wealth generated by the increased productivity due to technology.

    • @franknwogu4911
      @franknwogu4911 3 роки тому +28

      Europe has stagnant wages not because of business but because of overbearing welfare states, that tax the life out of companies.

    • @hendrikdependrik1891
      @hendrikdependrik1891 3 роки тому +33

      There are several reasons for having stagnant wages. The Euro was deflationary, unions have been too woke to be taken seriously. In fact, people are done here with socialism in general. Socialism is the root cause of inflation, because if the bottom is getting wage increases, the prices of necessities are going up in the same way with them.

    • @00fgytduydrtu
      @00fgytduydrtu 3 роки тому +53

      Exactly. Not to mention, Global Capitalism alongside the Social Policies of the West has only made this Problems worse. Something people really do not want to talk about is how by making women enter the Workforce, the Supply of workers doubled, making the value of a worker half what it was. Not to mention how women are more likely to accept lower wages, which also makes them go down and because they no longer care for the home, additional costs pile up from fast food, buying new clothes, employing people to clean the house, ect. Also, women not having time to care for their children makes the birth rate go down and makes people less sociable and breaks families up. However, all of these things are perfect for the Elites, who wish to make as much money as possible out of people. This is why we shouldn't think anymore in terms like left or right, because the social and economic policies of Liberal Democracies exist to only benefit the Urban elites and nobody else.

    • @corpo9310
      @corpo9310 3 роки тому +11

      @@00fgytduydrtu Then what is the alternative if not radical reform of our economy and the electoral system? Here in Germany we had a centrist government since the unification with the GDR that caused lobbyism exploiting the environment and corrupted the wellfare state

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE 3 роки тому +40

      @@hendrikdependrik1891 wages are stagnant because socialism causes inflation by increasing wages?

  • @macco3176
    @macco3176 3 роки тому +757

    this video is so well made omg this is at the caliber of vox and maybe even kurzgesagt

    • @calibvr
      @calibvr 3 роки тому +143

      Calling it vox is an insult. Fair, though, they have nice visuals.

    • @calibvr
      @calibvr 3 роки тому +94

      @k. they are very biased

    • @whitezombie10
      @whitezombie10 3 роки тому

      Maybe???

    • @OnraySmonray
      @OnraySmonray 3 роки тому +8

      @@calibvr that’s why you don’t use them as one source and know their bias, it’s better than how bias fox is

    • @willmorrell488
      @willmorrell488 3 роки тому +17

      @@OnraySmonray Fox isn't even truly Conservative. They're owned by the same media interests.

  • @lakshyakulshrestha7644
    @lakshyakulshrestha7644 3 роки тому +50

    This is some quality content. The visuals, the way everything is presented, and the overall aesthetics is just amazing. Subbed and looking forward to more like this!

  • @srbtlevse16
    @srbtlevse16 2 роки тому +44

    I genuinely believe the main issue is economic. Nowadays, it is impossible for people in many big cities all over the world especiqlly Europe to even dream of getting married, compared to before it now takes years (maybe even a decade or even longer) for regular people to establish a viable and stable career or other source of income. If you see high level athletes like footballers or anyone who gets rich younger they have way more children at a younger age compared to others their age.

    • @hornerfarah2282
      @hornerfarah2282 Рік тому +2

      That doesn't explain why less stable and poor nations tent to have more kids than more stable and rich nations. If economic Is the reason why most people don't want to have kids we would see this issue impacted more in less developing nations

    • @SuperHipsterGamer
      @SuperHipsterGamer Рік тому +8

      ​@@hornerfarah2282It's not that hard to explain. Less developed nations are seeing birth rates drop like crazy as their people are being redirected into modern economies. Indonesia has in 40 years gone from a birth rate of 4 to just above 2 and declining still.
      The reason birth rates were higher in low developed countries, is that modern economies decreases child mortality rate. When child mortality rate is high, birth rates go up, as the safest bet to have some children left is to make a lot of them, add that most of those people are farmers and low skilled workers, and the skills needed for the next generation is relatively easy to educate, quantity becomes king (and that's not even touching the obvious other reason, that low developed nations have awful access to birth control). When child mortality rate goes down it suddenly gets more practical to ensure children are successful rather than just survive, as economies becomes more complex and low skill jobs starts disappearing, you will no longer have ensured your future simply by just having children becoming adults, you need to ensure they have the skills to maneuver the modern complex economies.
      It's also why birth rates are awfully low in modern, but struggling economies like Russia, South Korea, Latvia, Hong Kong, Bosnia and Italy.

    • @NexusSpacey
      @NexusSpacey Рік тому +3

      Long story short, people don't want to be miserable in order to raise their kids. And people want to have time to raise them.
      Most people in developed nations no longer actually have time or money to raise kids and will therefore not have any.

  • @aniksamiurrahman6365
    @aniksamiurrahman6365 3 роки тому +17

    It takes a village to grow a child. It's an old African proverb. If we want to increase the fertility rate, we need to bring that village back. It's probably time when we invest in society and not just throw money and call it a day.

    • @AsiaMinor12
      @AsiaMinor12 3 роки тому +4

      Not gonna happen anytime soon. A lot of conservative groups talk about bringing back the nuclear family, a modern form of childbearing that strays away from the "village" you are proposing. This seems like the more popular idea.

  • @joseperez1308
    @joseperez1308 3 роки тому +348

    I generally greatly appreciated the video, my only issue being migration being mentioned as "less controversial" than raising the retirement age higher. This is ignoring high levels of migration were a big trigger for hard-right parties such as AfD

    • @vladanidiot3933
      @vladanidiot3933 3 роки тому +68

      >Hard-right

    • @nizam5568
      @nizam5568 3 роки тому +13

      I think it was a joke

    • @TusharSharma-cy9xo
      @TusharSharma-cy9xo 3 роки тому +110

      @@vladanidiot3933 lmao, everything righteous has become hard right now,

    • @prifon2896
      @prifon2896 3 роки тому +64

      @Jure Dolar You are talking about refugees. And Countries are having problems with refugees due to a lack of solidarity, for example many Countries in the EU are against an even distribution of refugees leading to more problems in the countries taking them. So far-right people actually make it worse for the whole EU. And back to the actual Topic: Germany for example is hiring high skilled workers from other Countries like India for ages because of the shortage of high skilled workers in the IT and other sectors and that has worked pretty well so far. Stop comparing those different types of migration as if it's the same to transmit your extremist views.

    • @thing.1263
      @thing.1263 3 роки тому +60

      @@prifon2896 not enough worker in europe yes the classic they just want more people to lower the salaries why an European should work for 6€per hour when someone else can do it for 3

  • @georgios_5342
    @georgios_5342 3 роки тому +23

    Thank you Romule, for some reason nobody is bringing up this problem where I live, even though we're in the EU and even though we have this issue in the highest. Thanks for taking an informed view on the subject

    • @lillekenatnek195
      @lillekenatnek195 Рік тому

      nobody is probably bringing up the problem because richer northen european countries will solve the problem financially. its time for the eu to fall apart

    • @georgios_5342
      @georgios_5342 Рік тому

      @@lillekenatnek195 I live in the south

    • @lillekenatnek195
      @lillekenatnek195 Рік тому

      @@georgios_5342 exactly.

  • @akanay22
    @akanay22 3 роки тому +6

    I got shocked when I saw the subscriber and viewer count of your channel. I really thought you had atleast a few million subs and views. These videos are really good and by that I mean really, really good. Your videos have more or less the same quality with the top channels out there. That is incredible.

  • @horvatlovren7198
    @horvatlovren7198 3 роки тому +75

    You should have spoken more about Hungary and how its reversing the low fertility rate. Since 2010, when Orban took power, the fertility rate has increased from 1.23 to 1.56 as of 2020 and is projected to be 1.60 in 2021. Still low, but there has been movement.

    • @mansiselyn
      @mansiselyn 3 роки тому +1

      Hungary gonna be making a comeback???

    • @imperatorisservihominis4410
      @imperatorisservihominis4410 3 роки тому +22

      Orban is a Christian and Nationalist . Of course the Western European cultures would sideline his achievements coz not woke to have kids and families.

    • @justaboi4791
      @justaboi4791 3 роки тому +14

      Yes, fueled by massive EU subsidies into one of the poorest EU countries and a deconstruction of freedom of press, religion, LGBT rights and corruption.

    • @horvatlovren7198
      @horvatlovren7198 3 роки тому +20

      @@justaboi4791 Good. The EU funds are typically used in Eastern Europe to promote LGBT agenda and erode family values. At least Hungary is using the funds for opposite effect and with success ... unlike Western Europe. Where fertility rates are still higher, but declining compared to Hungary.

    • @justaboi4791
      @justaboi4791 3 роки тому +7

      @@horvatlovren7198 Damn, out of all of that you only registered the gay agenda. Guess the rest is a great setting for homophobes, among right-wingers and fascists.

  • @whyismyricewet1986
    @whyismyricewet1986 3 роки тому +57

    migration in europe is controversial af and has many negative consequences. Besides that excellent video and I hope you get more subs.

    • @yugatrasclart4439
      @yugatrasclart4439 3 роки тому +10

      Only to racist edgelords like you, normal people don't really care

    • @Skankhunt668
      @Skankhunt668 3 роки тому +17

      @@yugatrasclart4439 come to Brussels and you will think differently

    • @thebasedspectre3048
      @thebasedspectre3048 2 роки тому +6

      @@yugatrasclart4439 🤡🤡🤡

    • @whyismyricewet1986
      @whyismyricewet1986 2 роки тому +3

      @@yugatrasclart4439 as One guy here said, go to Brussels and you will feel differently. Contrary to what you believe, normal working class people are the ones who feel more strongly against illegal immigration due to them not accepting western values. So perhaps 80% of Europeans are racist edge lord's like me 😭😭😭😭😳😳

    • @DwarfenBlizzard
      @DwarfenBlizzard 2 роки тому +6

      ​@@yugatrasclart4439 Not everything is "you vs us". By calling others buzzwords instead of actually taking your time to acknowledge that others can have differing opinions, you're just creating a bigger divide that makes them more inclined to believe that you're in the wrong, thus strenghtening their own point of view. If you truly want to change someone's opinion, or at the very least make them understand your views, then you have to argue with them in a respectful and polite way not just throw insults.

  • @baldurelitraustason662
    @baldurelitraustason662 3 роки тому +10

    This is some high-quality content, im glad you appeared in my recommended, you definitely deserve more exposure.

  • @calibvr
    @calibvr 3 роки тому +29

    100% agree. Have been wondering what we'll do with it. Ireland's population boom of 2003-2008 is over, & we're below replacement rates now.

    • @Youngmentor476
      @Youngmentor476 3 роки тому +1

      Population momentum will see India been 1.6 billion in 2060 even tho birth rates falls

    • @calibvr
      @calibvr 3 роки тому +1

      @@Youngmentor476 Ireland

    • @Youngmentor476
      @Youngmentor476 3 роки тому

      @@calibvr ??

    • @calibvr
      @calibvr 3 роки тому +4

      @@Youngmentor476 I wasn't talking about India

    • @newtonia-uo4889
      @newtonia-uo4889 2 роки тому +1

      The greatest attribution to population decline has only tangential relations to economics, it has more to do with the prevalence of contraceptives, which is a uniquely modern phenomenon.
      Just look at Nigeria which has almost 0% distribution of contraceptives, and it has the highest fertility rate in the world all the while being extremely poor and also suffering the most from climate change.
      If there's one thing that a lot of these nations experiencing severe population decline have in common, is that contraceptives are widely distributed and commonly used.
      And there have been examples in the soviet block wherein to solve population decline, a mass ban on contraceptives alongside abortion was established. This is also why highly religious countries have normal fertility rates, it has nothing to do with "spirituality" and it has more to do with the fact that most religions look unfavorably at contraceptives, which affects public perception of contraceptive use, thus making its widespread distribution less likely. So its not about a country religious, its that a country is anti contraceptives. And this is more obvious given that migrants who are highly religious and come to the industrialized world, after the first generation, often adopt the proclivity of using contraceptives and therefore adopt an "industralized' birth rate. You also see contraceptives use more popular and widespread the wealthier a society becomes. A few rich nations managed to momentarily buck this trend, ie the U.S because it used to have an extremely strong natalists culture that made contraceptive use widely unpopular, but that has changed in the recent 2 decades and so you will see a birth rate decline in the U.S as well
      Do you have statistics on contraceptive use in Ireland?

  • @unfairlive2
    @unfairlive2 3 роки тому +10

    Rethinking the expectation of perpetual growth will be required, moving to a more circular economy could potentially help keep things from declining in the interrim period where the population reaches a new equilibrium.

  • @viorelharabaru1836
    @viorelharabaru1836 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, how come this channel is not super popular? Pure quality, well documented content. Keep it up!

  • @TheSimon253
    @TheSimon253 3 роки тому +72

    How the fuq don't you have more subs? This is a brilliant discussion on ageing population with beautiful animations. We also desperately need more pro-EU or at least channels discussing Europe on this site.

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +6

      Thanks Simon :)

    • @bonda_racing3579
      @bonda_racing3579 3 роки тому

      Am curious what are European thoughts on the European union itself depending on the country. Are their more euro skeptics? In Poland than let's say Germany? Or Spain? And if euro skepticism is on the rise.

    • @cara-seyun
      @cara-seyun 2 роки тому

      The algorithm

    • @martinmendl1399
      @martinmendl1399 2 роки тому +1

      @@bonda_racing3579 I’d say euroscepticism is on the lowest it’s been in a very long time, due to Brexit, Ukraine and general rise of interest in and focus on pan-european themes and identity in the last few years. Most formerly anti-EU parties are now just reformist, and some politicians are even opening towards eurofederalism. Of course, there are regional differences tho. From the countries you mentioned, Germany is super euroenthusiastic (with a federalist government, that is however kinda highly disliked throughout the continent), Spain kinda too (some see it as a solution to Catalan and Basque separatism and other regionalism, but it kinda doesn’t engage much in European politics), Poland is also very pro-EU, but sees itself as the leader of the eastern parts and has ideological grief with the western parts and the Polish govt (along with the Hungarian one) was fighting a series of political battles with the European Comission before the Ukraine war. Than, France and Italy have an extremely europeanist part of the population (wich includes both of their governments) and an extremely nationalist part of the population, and the rest lies in the middle.

  • @buyBread
    @buyBread 3 роки тому +21

    Damn, this is some good quality content. Hope you get more recognition.

  • @ThatGuy_404
    @ThatGuy_404 3 роки тому +9

    this is a very underated channel, hope this channel grows fast

  • @scar4361
    @scar4361 3 роки тому +7

    Hi, just wanted to say I'm glad I found this video, it puts the entire issue into TLDR quite nicely. Also having somebody on UA-cam with actually good editing skills and knowledge to back up the topic of the video while also focusing on Europe and its Union is great to see as well, keep up the good work.

  • @marza339
    @marza339 3 роки тому +4

    Mark my words, this channel will be huge. Keep up these short, under 10 minute videos

  • @MaybeGamingify
    @MaybeGamingify 3 роки тому +10

    I been meaning to look more into E.U. politics recently and this fertility video is really well done.
    Congrats on 1k subs!

  • @greekswaglord-dathistoryla201
    @greekswaglord-dathistoryla201 3 роки тому +268

    As someone from the center/center right, I appreciate the objectivity shown within this video about an increasingly contentious issue with no clear solution.

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +62

      Really appreciate this point because it something that I try really hard to make sure I do properly

    • @greekswaglord-dathistoryla201
      @greekswaglord-dathistoryla201 3 роки тому +34

      @@hoogyoutube No prob, I personally could have provided more of an intricate analysis concerning intrinsic methods (ways to increase the birth rate) Europe can adopt to not solve per say, but, mitigate the effects. Nevertheless, it still stands that you did a good job, coming from someone who has pondered over the issue for years.

    • @Dwg256
      @Dwg256 3 роки тому +3

      3

    • @no8592
      @no8592 3 роки тому +9

      @@greekswaglord-dathistoryla201 If I was a Leader of my country, I could make the birthrate go skyhigh in 5 years... The solutions are so plain and simple, that makes it seem if like the goal of the politicians and current leaders is not to solve it, but push it.

    • @greekswaglord-dathistoryla201
      @greekswaglord-dathistoryla201 3 роки тому +76

      @@no8592 If that is the case, why is Sweden, a country with one the most generous parental and childcare support systems in the world, facing a decline in birth rates? The issue is extremely multifaceted, multilayered and convoluted, tied to a society's deepest and most ingrained trends, issues and characteristics. It will take decades of soft social engineering and careful management to reverse this current phenomenon.

  • @Pedanta
    @Pedanta 3 роки тому +13

    This is amazing quality for such a small channel

  • @calliope3123
    @calliope3123 3 роки тому +6

    thank you for talking about the european continent
    the european union isn't always the most talked subject on youtube
    it was a particularly good explaination of the current political/geopolitical matter on this complex question
    Thank you so much for your work !

  • @tobiwan001
    @tobiwan001 Рік тому +1

    It’s not the fertility rate that is declining. It’s been like that for a few decades. The problem is now the big post-war age groups are reaching retirement age.

  • @Drevo-1219
    @Drevo-1219 3 роки тому +5

    Sir you are amazing! I've never heard of this channel before but you've earned a new sub. This is some real quality content!

  • @mintmango2525
    @mintmango2525 3 роки тому +17

    This channel is amazing! Keep up the great work. You should also considering getting some translators considering the EU is so diverse and has many languages! I'd be willing to do Romanian subtitles for free.

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +8

      That would be really awesome. Would you be able to send an email to romuluseurope@gmail.com so I can establish further contact :)

    • @abellyold4859
      @abellyold4859 Рік тому +1

      Aren't most people in EU already know English as a second language?

  • @plexsheep1296
    @plexsheep1296 3 роки тому +10

    This content is so good. Please keep it up.

  • @davidlyday7373
    @davidlyday7373 3 роки тому +71

    The fact that there is no mention of the predicted global population plateau by most scientists is concerning. The reality is that within the next century human population will most likely flatline. Although it will be difficult in the next several generations as there are more elderly than youth, We will see a point at which youth and elderly populations will level out. Obviously the transition will be hard and preparing for it is necessary but not acknowledging that I feel is short-sighted

    • @minzblatt
      @minzblatt 3 роки тому +11

      It's a European channel focusing on a European issue. I don't think Tanzania has a problem in the next 30 years with its elderly and I doubt Indonesia needs to worry about its retirement fonds. Europe is a developed continent with many human resources needs, especially since its wealth is mostly based on manufacturing value added products and providing services. What happens if those people retire en masse and need care? I really wish people would spend more thoughts on these issues instead of the usual whataboutism and conspiracy theory.

    • @_blank-_
      @_blank-_ 3 роки тому

      @@minzblatt Well, automation could help. Or euthanasia.

    • @johnisaacfelipe6357
      @johnisaacfelipe6357 2 роки тому

      Doesn't seem likely, just look at africa, its population is exploding and in 2050, it is expected to comprise about 3 billion people.

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Рік тому

      The only option is immigration. @@minzblatt

  • @lapikolko2
    @lapikolko2 3 роки тому +4

    You make so much effort into your videos, yet they don't get as much attention as they need. Great work man, keep it up

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +1

      It's a slow burn and going faster than I was expecting anyways :)

  • @nicci_valentine
    @nicci_valentine 3 роки тому +4

    Now this is the kind of content I've been looking for. Keep it up!

    • @hagrid1123
      @hagrid1123 3 роки тому

      What’s your pfp

    • @nicci_valentine
      @nicci_valentine 3 роки тому +1

      @@hagrid1123 a background filler character who showed up in what was probably a single frame of a BNHA/MHA episode
      I doubt anyone was really even expected to see him, but I did. I saw him. And now he's mine, mine now and for eternity.

    • @hagrid1123
      @hagrid1123 3 роки тому

      @@nicci_valentine lol what episode

    • @nicci_valentine
      @nicci_valentine 3 роки тому +1

      @@hagrid1123 No idea, it's been too long so I don't remember

  • @born2love6
    @born2love6 3 роки тому +3

    How the hell is Romulus' channel not at least 10 times the amount of subscribers given the sheer quality of the video he produces. I realise his channel is young and that is the main reason why but god damn man do you have an amazing trajectory pumping out these kinds of videos

  • @jerry3790
    @jerry3790 3 роки тому +14

    This shows the inherent flaws of a pay-as-you-go social structure. IMO any government social programmes should be structured in such a way that money is invested and allowed to grow rather than immediately used, and therefore every person only needs to provide for their future selves

    • @cherrycoyote55
      @cherrycoyote55 3 роки тому +7

      Too bad the US just wants to spend spend spend!
      Our "economists" have NO idea how money works, and they just think that somehow debt is something you can just blow off no big deal.

    • @_blank-_
      @_blank-_ 3 роки тому +4

      @@cherrycoyote55 We don't care about the US.

    • @breazfreind402
      @breazfreind402 3 роки тому +2

      @@_blank-_ speak for urself

    • @dave_sic1365
      @dave_sic1365 3 роки тому +1

      No I don't think so,
      Just a quick overthought: this much money rotting in bank accounts may cause deflation and deflation is really bad.

    • @cakeisyummy5755
      @cakeisyummy5755 3 роки тому

      @@dave_sic1365 Why is Deflation bad?

  • @bussinbaboon5084
    @bussinbaboon5084 Рік тому

    Your data visualizations are clear and simplistic and represent the context of the video well.

  • @domadordepollosmm
    @domadordepollosmm 2 роки тому

    Man, that chart at the beginning is MAGIC. So much information and so easy to visualize!

  • @Joanyuh
    @Joanyuh 3 роки тому +7

    The fact that you only have 300 subscribers is beyond me

    • @Haykke
      @Haykke 3 роки тому +1

      same

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому

      Thank you :) the build up will be slow and steady for a while, and that's perfectly okay for me

    • @Dwg256
      @Dwg256 3 роки тому +1

      7

  • @BernasLL
    @BernasLL 2 роки тому +25

    Also, most of Europe's wealth is in the hands of its old people, with housing prices rising and wages stagnating.
    A bit like the US, by outsourcing too much of its production and allowing slave labour goods to flood its markets, Europe has taken away means for young people to get on their own feet in early adult life (as well as unqualified labourers, and generally more labour intensive EU economies).

  • @Vinvininhk
    @Vinvininhk 3 роки тому +6

    7:36 it's not the Schengen area that exacerbate the aging population problem, but the Freedom of Movement, meaning any EU citizen are allowed to live work and, most importantly for this problem, retire in any EU country they choose to. The Schegenzone is only about temporary movement. For example, Switzerland is part of the Schegen area but not part of the EU or EEA. This means that EU citizens are not entitled to retire in Switzerland. On the other hand, Romania is not in the Schegenzone (yet), but it is an EU country which means EU citizens can retired there.

  • @LC-bk8mp
    @LC-bk8mp 3 роки тому +1

    Literally have a Global Perspectives exam tomorrow and this is one of the things we talked about at the beginning of the year.

  • @theabaddon7457
    @theabaddon7457 3 роки тому +2

    This channel is an absolute hidden gem!

  • @georgforster8114
    @georgforster8114 3 роки тому +4

    A very strong video which doesn't flow with the main stream but presents its own opinion in a logical and rational way

    • @AsiaMinor12
      @AsiaMinor12 3 роки тому

      Lots of mainstream media talk about Europe's again population.

  • @camelemoji2918
    @camelemoji2918 3 роки тому +41

    It’s naive to think that economic help to people would raise birth rates. The fundamental problem is that people are becoming more self-centred than ever before, more obsessed with their own success and more cold and dismissive towards each other. We once talked about solidarity and unity, but people care more and more about themselves and their success only, that having children is no longer a top-priority. No matter the economic help that governments will give, people will only continue to chase their own dreams and success in life, which is no horrible thing to do. However it just means that this “ideal and perfect family” that has existed like forever, is no longer present among younger people.
    And to be honest, I’m one of those people who are like that.

    • @Chronor
      @Chronor 3 роки тому +1

      then get extinct

    • @camelemoji2918
      @camelemoji2918 3 роки тому +16

      @@Chronor I don’t think we’ll go extinct, there’ll just be a reduction of the population at some point. It’s inevitable.

    • @Chronor
      @Chronor 3 роки тому +1

      @@camelemoji2918 nah youll just be the minority and mostly people from turky,Albania,etc became the majority

    • @TusharSharma-cy9xo
      @TusharSharma-cy9xo 3 роки тому +4

      @@Chronor europe will get converted into an islamic territory, what so many attackes and crusades could not do, this will.

    • @camelemoji2918
      @camelemoji2918 3 роки тому +10

      @@Chronor are you like a right wing extremist or something? No, our population won’t be rEPlaCeD! Proper border management will help controlling immigration.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 2 роки тому +3

    This is a good explanatory video, that seems to treat the various political factions involved with a basic amount of respect.
    I appreciate your work, and I look forward to more!

  • @vienna5526
    @vienna5526 3 роки тому +1

    Insane quality. Interesting topic.

  • @lucasarnack2610
    @lucasarnack2610 2 роки тому +1

    Well done! The video is very well edited and brings a lot of information mixed with a beautiful and simple aesthetic

  • @jensverstraete4722
    @jensverstraete4722 3 роки тому +5

    first of your videos i've watched and i gotta say amazing content.

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому

      Glad you liked it :) Just so you know, I try to make the videos better every single time, so the videos will get progressively worse the further you go back. Hope you still like it though

    • @jensverstraete4722
      @jensverstraete4722 3 роки тому

      @@hoogyoutubei disagree yeah you made massive inprovements but they are still very high quality both in terms of research and visuals

  • @srjklmmm4556666
    @srjklmmm4556666 3 роки тому +36

    Something not brought up here, like in almost all discussions of fertility rates, is what women actually want.
    Almost all of them say they wished they had more kids, but this is never considered the primary problem, instead they're written of like incubators, like fertility engines that just needs more fuel in the form of money to speed up the fertility rate.

    • @LaFonteCheVi
      @LaFonteCheVi 3 роки тому +19

      ​@@cedar4539 Life was MUCH harder in the past. Humans, even in the poorest countries on the planet, live better today than some of the richest 200 years ago. You don't need a positive outlook or a high quality of life to have kids.
      The problem is that modern society is extremely misanthropic, consumeristic, and anti-social. Women are pushed to work and taught having children is awful and men are taught that they are trash and should just shut up. The result? Less relationships. Less social interaction. Less kids. Both men and women are having less sex and dating lesss. isntead everyone wastes their time on sites like youtube sitting alone. The pandemic made it worse.
      Modern life is rotten to the core.

    • @ArwedMett
      @ArwedMett 3 роки тому +4

      I totally agree. Currently a lot of hoseholds need two working adults to maintain a good standard of living. Not in absolute terms, but relative to your peers. For a lot of women it is really hard to persue a career and have children. Also the legal bond of having children together is really bad and divorces are on the rise. Nobody wants to be in such a situation.

    • @VMohdude-
      @VMohdude- 2 роки тому

      @SuperduperobergruppenstuppentruppensturmStuka
      lol the birth rate of Hungary wasn’t anywhere near 8 in the 30’s

  • @Favoxhille
    @Favoxhille 3 роки тому +36

    We should also consider social welfare and quality of life when comparing EU and US median age, this is not say that in some parts of Europe especially where I'm from (Italy) and much of mediterranean Europe is facing the problem of young population shrinking. With the future risk of not being able to pay pension and basically having next generations doomed to work life long if they dont have savings...

    • @Ubya_
      @Ubya_ 3 роки тому

      i'd say that we are already facing it. Hello fellow italian, retirement age is currently 67, and it will increase even more.
      In a few years a state pension won't be worth it, paying 4k a year for 40 years, to maybe have a pension the last 5-10 years of your life, 5-10 years you won't enjoy since you are crippled and old.

    • @konfuziussagt6326
      @konfuziussagt6326 3 роки тому

      I have a proposal for a solution: One could also bring the wise children worldwide to Europe. This would preserve European culture, do something good for the world and solve the demographic problem.

    • @Talonidas7403
      @Talonidas7403 3 роки тому

      @@konfuziussagt6326 How would you do that tho

    • @papaicebreakerii8180
      @papaicebreakerii8180 3 роки тому +1

      @@konfuziussagt6326 That’s such a vague thing though. Immigration of any kind doesn’t tarnish a culture it just adds to it if Europeans were more accepting then you’d might see something like America where countries become melting pots of all different cultures that are still unified by their nationality. There’s nothing wrong with that

    • @newtonia-uo4889
      @newtonia-uo4889 2 роки тому

      The greatest attribution to population decline has only tangential relations to economics, it has more to do with the prevalence of contraceptives, which is a uniquely modern phenomenon.
      Just look at Nigeria which has almost 0% distribution of contraceptives, and it has the highest fertility rate in the world all the while being extremely poor and also suffering the most from climate change.
      If there's one thing that a lot of these nations experiencing severe population decline have in common, is that contraceptives are widely distributed and commonly used.
      And there have been examples in the soviet block wherein to solve population decline, a mass ban on contraceptives alongside abortion was established. This is also why highly religious countries have normal fertility rates, it has nothing to do with "spirituality" and it has more to do with the fact that most religions look unfavorably at contraceptives, which affects public perception of contraceptive use, thus making its widespread distribution less likely. So its not about a country religious, its that a country is anti contraceptives. And this is more obvious given that migrants who are highly religious and come to the industrialized world, after the first generation, often adopt the proclivity of using contraceptives and therefore adopt an "industralized' birth rate. You also see contraceptives use more popular and widespread the wealthier a society becomes. A few rich nations managed to momentarily buck this trend, ie the U.S because it used to have an extremely strong natalists culture that made contraceptive use widely unpopular, but that has changed in the recent 2 decades and so you will see a birth rate decline in the U.S as well
      The solution is simple although it's politically unpalletable. Just ban contraceptives.

  • @Noe-gj9mw
    @Noe-gj9mw 3 роки тому +2

    This video earned my subscription, keep up the good work!

  • @kaythia-s9h
    @kaythia-s9h 3 роки тому

    I'm here before this channel blows up! 3.93k subscribers right now.

  • @piellamp
    @piellamp 3 роки тому +4

    Here before this blows up

  • @Xamufam
    @Xamufam 3 роки тому +4

    this is a worldwide problem even africas birthrate is declining faster than expected

  • @thegallanonim
    @thegallanonim 3 роки тому +5

    6:32 such a project was already introduced in Poland back in 2015, but so far it had little impact on fertiity rates

    • @zoomerboomer3109
      @zoomerboomer3109 2 роки тому +4

      And has the mass migration since 2015 gone any better?

    • @VMohdude-
      @VMohdude- 2 роки тому

      @@zoomerboomer3109 no one’s mass
      migrating to Poland dude. Why would anyone go live in Poland? People are just passing by. In fact Poland’s population is declining.

    • @JJ-te2pi
      @JJ-te2pi 2 роки тому +2

      @@VMohdude- In fact it's rapidly increased this year and many Ukranians will be staying and raising families in Polska.

    • @VMohdude-
      @VMohdude- 2 роки тому +3

      @@JJ-te2pi I was talking about the situation
      that’s been generally the case for Poland. Also war refugees aren’t really the same as immigrants. Remember how we called the Syrians in 2015 refugees? Those Ukrainians went to Poland because it’s right next door, they also went to several other countries nearby. Doesn’t really defeat my point.

  • @Arthur312HA
    @Arthur312HA 3 роки тому +1

    I’m surprised how underrated this channel are

  • @kumbaya69421
    @kumbaya69421 3 роки тому

    This channel will blow up. These visuals and commentary are quality.

  • @marcobisi7768
    @marcobisi7768 3 роки тому +16

    So, as a gen. Z i will have to work all my life and get barely any pension back, cool👍

    • @wamnicho
      @wamnicho 3 роки тому +13

      Be ready for that, you won't get any pension so you better start saving

    • @evilnet1
      @evilnet1 3 роки тому +1

      Or simply start saving and investing now. Make a retirement fund.

    • @dave_sic1365
      @dave_sic1365 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, so we should have alot of kids to support us when we are old and Grey...
      Like in the preindustrial Era

    • @JorgeGomez-kt3oq
      @JorgeGomez-kt3oq 2 роки тому

      You are getting 0 pensikn

  • @DanksterPaws
    @DanksterPaws 3 роки тому +9

    This seems to be a problem of pretty much every developed country this century. And for other developing countries in the coming decades.

  • @kaliyuga1476
    @kaliyuga1476 3 роки тому +4

    There used to be a country in Europe that for each child, 25% is subtracted from the mortgage for young couples, in addition to a salary for housewives

    • @geroestetumor
      @geroestetumor 2 роки тому +2

      Oy Vey! That is racist!!

    • @maxmusterman9262
      @maxmusterman9262 2 роки тому +3

      Hey we lost, there wont be a round 3

    • @geroestetumor
      @geroestetumor 2 роки тому +1

      @@maxmusterman9262 Nonsense, this war has been raging since the beginning of time and won't end until the last of us has stopped breathing. It is time we stop thinking in conventional terms.

    • @kaliyuga1476
      @kaliyuga1476 2 роки тому +2

      @@geroestetumor Yeah, it will end the day we all think it is lost, til that moment we are fighting everyday

  • @HCunha
    @HCunha 3 роки тому +1

    Another sub to this Channel
    Continue with this quality pls

  • @PorkSKing
    @PorkSKing 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Amazingly made video, you deserve way more subscribers!

  • @SuperLusername
    @SuperLusername 3 роки тому +13

    One of the solutions would be to tie the number of children to pensions.
    More children you have, the higher the coefficient on your pension.

    • @brandonvelde5774
      @brandonvelde5774 3 роки тому +2

      I'm amazed that isn't a thing already.

    • @stadtrepublikmulhausen4121
      @stadtrepublikmulhausen4121 3 роки тому +2

      @@brandonvelde5774 it already exists in russia

    • @Ломпадкасветлая
      @Ломпадкасветлая 3 роки тому +2

      @Jure Dolar so, worker is a parasyte?

    • @Ломпадкасветлая
      @Ломпадкасветлая 3 роки тому +5

      Support while raising children would be more useful than before death. + There can be people who will give birth for the sake of getting benefits. It's not a good thing, is it?

    • @wamnicho
      @wamnicho 3 роки тому +1

      @Jure Dolar but that already happens here in the US, single people are taxed a higher rate than married couples with children and the Birthrate is still low

  • @arma5166
    @arma5166 3 роки тому +10

    Just focus on making good quality content like this and I promise, the numbers will follow up as time passes on

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому

      Thank you Arma :), there's much more content to come

  • @quintiax
    @quintiax 3 роки тому +25

    Edit: the graphs aren't misleading, they are confusing instead, my mistake for making a bad distinction between the two.
    The aging population of the European Union is an issue that is important to address and where pragmatic answers and policy have yet to come forward to tackle this issue. The content of your video is well structured and I think you explained it very well. However where I take issue with is with the graphs you have provided to give clarification; they are misleading to say the least. Whilst I don't think you did this intentionally, you did skip some rules. I'm primarily talking about the charts you showed in 3:00-4:00.
    If we look at the chart at 3:15 there are a few issues. The numbers you use are seemingly arbitrary, without a good point of reference (e.g. a point 0). You have 20 years old and 70 years old, but where is the consistency? What jump does 20 and 70 make, is it with intervals of 1 year, 5 years or 10 years? If we had to assume point 0 was at the crossings of the x-axis and y-axis then you would be made to believe that it is in jumps of 20. However then the chart has become misleading as the distance between 0-20 is much shorter than it is between 20-40, 40-60 and so on. If we use these as measurements, as a viewer would be made to believe, then where you put 70 should be more around ~130-140; you should have indicated it on the chart if you made an inconsistent jump between 0-20. This issue is also present on the y-axis, where you used 10^-5 as your reference point, which is fine by itself, but never used any form of clear intervals. These issues make the lines of the values very unreliable, since the jump between 0-20 is inconsistent with the rest without indicating it, it skews the chart massively and makes it very misleading.
    Another issue with the chart is the legend. If you look at it you notice that most of the values you give are arbitrary. Why does a green "Death" exist and also a orange "Death"? What is the difference between them? Why is one much lower than the other if they are the same value? Could it be that both values are from different studies, if so, why is it not indicated? What does "Healthspan" mean? Why aren't heart diseases and accidents on there? These two are more frequent in the EU than lets say strokes and dementia (ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Causes_of_death_statistics). What does the red striped box mean and how much is each stack of money worth? And so on, and so on...
    I would also recommend showing your sources, not only does this add serious credibility to what you are stating, but it makes it easier for people to learn more about the topic you are addressing. This really helps the curious viewers who want to delve a little deeper into the subject matter at hand.
    (I do recommend taking a look at this site, it gives a good basic of what a chart has to fulfill to be considered reliable: crvsgateway.info/Guidelines-for-good-charts~406)
    I do believe that the message of this video could be strengthened a lot if you adjust the charts to cohere to standard practice in the fields of statistics. I think that this channel is a small gem in a sea of difficult to find unbiased explanation of modern day issues. I'm definitely curious of the next videos you will put out and the topic you will cover. I wish you the best!

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +8

      I've attached the comment to this article, and I'll be attaching screenshots of the original graphs plus any additional commentary that is required ASAP.
      www.romuluseurope.eu/youtube/europe-is-too-old/

    • @quintiax
      @quintiax 3 роки тому +1

      @@hoogyoutube Thank you, I do want to retract one thing and say that the graphs aren't misleading by itself. It isn't entirely clear what it is showing so it's difficult to claim then that they are misleading. Apologies for that.

    • @kaliyuga1476
      @kaliyuga1476 3 роки тому

      There used to be a country in Europe that for each child, 25% is subtracted from the mortgage for young couples, in addition to a salary for housewives

  • @BayardTardieu
    @BayardTardieu 3 роки тому

    I binge watch this channel. It's sooo great but under represented by yt tbh. Thx from 🇫🇷

  • @xijinping3056
    @xijinping3056 3 роки тому

    Instant subscription bruh this is so high quality

  • @seanbrummfield448
    @seanbrummfield448 2 роки тому +4

    Well, it is a hefty take on things. European media seems to be more relaxed on these issues, while East Asian media is on the frits about it. It's like what my college professor once said to my class when he taught us this, "Africans, are going to rule the future after 2050." "Not only because they get their systems together, but they're just going be the majority of the world because everybody else declined in people."

  • @Muslim-og3vc
    @Muslim-og3vc 3 роки тому +5

    those who claim they cant afford kids, waste their money on useless consumer items, people in poor countries have way more kids

    • @cherrycoyote55
      @cherrycoyote55 3 роки тому

      And look at how poor they are because of it.
      Yeah, I can absolutely choose to have kids. But if It means I have to completly change my lifestyle to one far less financially comfortable to have A kid (not even multiple kids) then Im not going to.
      Africa is actually a pretty big part of the overpopulation problem right now. Heck, one country in Africa has almost a billion people on its own.

    • @Tommy-the-coffee-addict
      @Tommy-the-coffee-addict 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@cherrycoyote55 old populations die out and will end up poor.

  • @FindtheDerivative
    @FindtheDerivative 3 роки тому +3

    I find it interesting that pension and retirement plans set up 50 years ago quietly assumed that the number of working individuals would be greater than the number of retired individuals.

    • @robertmartin6800
      @robertmartin6800 3 роки тому +1

      Fifty years ago economists weren't anticipating global population collapses, especially not in the developed countries.

    • @geroestetumor
      @geroestetumor 2 роки тому +1

      Baby Boomers were cheated out of income to put into a pension fund just so that the ECB had to print money to prevent the investments from going to nill.
      Moral of the story - no such thing as a pension exists. I don't count on it anymore anyway.

  • @edpowers3764
    @edpowers3764 2 роки тому +1

    What great content. We always hear about Europe through these alarmist anglosphere-centric accounts which typically paint Europe as doomed and weak. It’s great to see this type of honesty while remaining level headed about the whole matter. We shall see what the future brings!

  • @tavish1658
    @tavish1658 2 роки тому +2

    Social media increasing the standart, no one commiting to relationships, because there are more available online, resulting in social anxiety which makes us unable to interact with others outside of the internet, news trends that reveal economic, social, political and existential crises' to people at a young age. We have since childhood been told that our society can't sustain itself in the next 50 (40 now?) years, so why have children?

  • @wszechbytdoskonay3071
    @wszechbytdoskonay3071 2 роки тому +9

    europe for the indigenous europeans

    • @user-qpp
      @user-qpp 2 роки тому +5

      Europe for arab 🐫

    • @wszechbytdoskonay3071
      @wszechbytdoskonay3071 2 роки тому +2

      @@maher_8013 Yes! and Australia for Aboriginals and South Africa for Khoisan.

  • @ninny65
    @ninny65 2 роки тому +5

    What happens when the native birthrate is below replacement level but the immigrant population has 4-5 kids per couple - Demographic replacement. Could of gone the route of encouraging births and discouraging birth control but I guess creating a new (lessor) nation works too

  • @halfeddi3152
    @halfeddi3152 2 роки тому +3

    In 2050, Women's couple standards will grow as high as only marrying with martians.

  • @h3avy775
    @h3avy775 3 роки тому

    This is really high quality. Great job

  • @LJ-np3gc
    @LJ-np3gc 3 роки тому

    Channel with lots of promise can't wait to see it grow

  • @afgor1088
    @afgor1088 3 роки тому +4

    pensions were originally to pay for rest in the final few years of your life, old people now expect 15, 20 years of no work while the rest of us pay for it, that's just not fair. either we raise the pension age in line with rising life expectancy or young people will start general striking to force the government to move funds away from the last generation towards the next. we're partly in this mess to begin with because governments are so crippled by pension spending there's almost nothing left for the rest of us to make it economically viable to have children

  • @Anonymous-df8it
    @Anonymous-df8it 3 роки тому +8

    By Europe is too old, I assumed it meant Europe as a continent is old, not its demographics. Great video anyways!

    • @cs0345
      @cs0345 3 роки тому +2

      I thought it meant European civilization

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it Рік тому +1

      @@cs0345 lol

  • @fjuvo
    @fjuvo 3 роки тому +4

    Wow, great video! Are you a citizen of the EU yourself?

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo 3 роки тому

      From the channel name I would guess Italian ;)

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +6

      Thank you :) Yes I am. Everyone that helps with the website is as well. It may seem a bit trivial, but I think it's generally important that there are more organizations out there that identify as European

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo 3 роки тому +2

      ​@@hoogyoutube Wow, how did you learn English whithout any hint of an accent?

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  3 роки тому +1

      I've spent a decent amount of time in the U.S, and I'm from and live in the Netherlands. This is actually one of the things I feel somewhat weird about because I can't really kick off the accent, and it would obviously make more sense to have a clear European one in the videos. I've even considered just writing the scripts and editing the videos and then getting someone with a clearer accent (like a French friend of mine; their accents are usually pretty obvious :)) to narrate over the videos because that would probably fit better. But right now that's going to take a bit too much time and effort, so maybe in the future l'll get a better, more clear European accent to narrate. But let me know what you think about how urgent this is.

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@hoogyoutube Thanks for clearing this up! Arguably an american accent is the most neutral one. A British one would be more off, especially since Brexit. Great that you're still replying to the comments ;)

  • @tomasprior3328
    @tomasprior3328 3 роки тому +2

    Very good 👏 Thorough and clear explanation. Not political only factual. Thank you

  • @waarschijn
    @waarschijn 10 місяців тому

    World population growth has been declining for centuries. That is, the population is still growing, but the growth rate has been decreasing.

  • @onewisefrog5785
    @onewisefrog5785 3 роки тому +14

    Life biggest Regrets
    1. not finding this channel sooner
    2. not subscribing to this channel sooner

  • @xird_3396
    @xird_3396 3 роки тому +17

    In France we have a lot of laws for the families. We have free school from 3 and state funded nursery. We also have financial aids and housing assistance. This maybe explains why France has the highest (with UK) fertility rate of Western Europe.

    • @Gabriel902884
      @Gabriel902884 3 роки тому +8

      im just wonderin how many of those kids are european or arab origin? can you tell? i know arabs have higher fertily rates so im curios.

    • @Andre777Ita
      @Andre777Ita 3 роки тому +12

      That’s because of the Arabs in your country

    • @thegreatbrandino8234
      @thegreatbrandino8234 3 роки тому +13

      You only have high fertility rate from africans and arabs living in france, not from local French people

    • @LordEarthWolf
      @LordEarthWolf 3 роки тому +4

      ...But how much of that is from native Frenchmen, or other Europeans??

  • @m.a.t.a.s
    @m.a.t.a.s 2 роки тому +8

    4:36 how is it less controversial? Would you think inviting foreign, uneducated people to your country with low motivation to work increase the country's economy level?

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  2 роки тому

      Sarcasm friend

    • @m.a.t.a.s
      @m.a.t.a.s 2 роки тому

      @@hoogyoutube Well, even so, the 2nd question still applies.

    • @hoogyoutube
      @hoogyoutube  2 роки тому +1

      Papers on the benefits of immigration seem a bit mixed. When people come your country, in theory, they also buy stuff, which can help an economy. But I don’t know enough to make a concrete statement about this.

    • @m.a.t.a.s
      @m.a.t.a.s 2 роки тому

      @@hoogyoutube Interesting.

    • @VestigeFinder
      @VestigeFinder 2 роки тому +1

      @@hoogyoutube "migrant" is a very broad category as well which makes this judgement hard to make. One migrant may be a great economic benefit while another may drain the tax system, depending on a variety of factors.

  • @liammacarthur4938
    @liammacarthur4938 3 роки тому

    Watching videos from this channel reminds me of when I discovered kurzgesagt when they only had 3 videos up on their channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @NexusSpacey
    @NexusSpacey Рік тому +1

    I think a big part of the problem is that many people my age (18-29) in my country do not want kids because they know they cannot provide for them and they do not want their kids to have a life worse than theirs.
    Most people i've talked to that don't have kids or won't have kids will be in financial ruin if they get them. We need to give people the quality of life needed to have parents and kids alike prosper.

  • @MJ46.91
    @MJ46.91 2 роки тому +3

    By the time the crises hits, we'd have more unemployment due to automation than just the problem of not having enough babies to support the elderly. The future holds more challenges than we've ever had, and seeing how the rise in pay and women not wanting to hold the responsibility of bearing and raising children and the emotional fatigue we have today to take reasonable and informed decisions is going to hit us deeper in the long run, we need to appreciate ladies more, and wake them up to what we are doing to ourselves, the wake culture of not wanting children in the first place let alone have one or two at max is a reflection of our state of mind. Elon musk is right when he says that the biggest threat we're facing is a population collapse