The New Hamilton Vs Laco & Sinn Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @Sumerdini
    @Sumerdini 10 місяців тому +12

    37 mm, expedition, IMO, the best watch Hamilton ever built. Correct formula =>> no date, 37mm, terrific short lugs, 20mm strap, military diver/field hybrid appearance, screw down crown, sapphire back windowed screw case, excellent top grade mechanism with ETA nivachrone balance spring etc...

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  10 місяців тому +1

      I'm not sure if its a top grade movement Sir but is an excellent one

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 10 місяців тому

      ⁠Hamilton CEO says, the H-10 movement of this watch has the best grade, ETA built...

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 9 місяців тому

      @@ClickSpringReview CEO says in an interview: "Top grade"...

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  9 місяців тому

      @@Sumerdini Looking at the timegrapher curve it doesn't look like a top grade movement Sumerdini. I think what he means is the escapement is fitted with a Nivachron balance spring the as not all have this , But from a watchmakers point of view I'd take the ETA 2824 over it everyday of the week , The 2824 has been used by IWC Tudor Breitling in watches cost 3K + . The H10 they thinned out the barrel spring so much and the lowered the beat rate so you don't that smooth guiding second hand anymore. All so you can take your watch of on a Friday and it should still ticking on the Monday Sir

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ClickSpringReview It is not a top grade movement per se of course but a "top grade movement" among powermatic 80 (H-10) type movements...

  • @1millionstartups
    @1millionstartups 11 місяців тому +1

    +1 Sinn. And if I want color straps I think I would support Jody's (Just One More Watch) Erubus. But if you toss in a black Damasko then I don't think I could resist.

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      I love to get my hands on a few Damasko models to review 👍🏻

  • @69fastfurious
    @69fastfurious 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi Barry, I’ll keep the Sinn ( have got one) super accurate super hard core watch my opinion

  • @ThomasSaward-wv5sm
    @ThomasSaward-wv5sm 10 місяців тому +3

    Your review on the Hamilton is slightly incorrect I think, you state the H10 is the same as the Powermatic 80, it isn’t. Both are based upon the ETA C07 series movements, but there are significant differences. The Powermatic used by Tissot etc is the C07.1xx with 23 jewels and synthetic escapement, whereas the H10 uses the C07.6xx with 25 jewels and conventional escapement.

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 10 місяців тому +2

      H-10 uses nivachrone balance spring by the way...

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  10 місяців тому +1

      Cheers for the heads up Thomas 👍🏻

    • @ryancurry5284
      @ryancurry5284 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s still a powermatic 80. There are different grades of them. .611 is also used in Certina’s. Still a powermatic 80.
      .111 is the tissot with less jewels and synthetic escapement. Again, still a powermatic 80

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 10 місяців тому

      ⁠Hamilton uses top grade H-10 movement in this watch, CEO says...

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  10 місяців тому

      ​​⁠ He would sir I personally prefer the high beat rate of the ETA 2824 which is 8 beats per second same as a Rolex , I would be interested to strip a H10 down and see the difference

  • @philbooth5570
    @philbooth5570 11 місяців тому +3

    Great comparison. Sinn for me, then Laco. Like the Hamilton but they aren't the value proposition they used to be.

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      Same here but its a very close second with the Laco Phil

    • @Drakewyrm
      @Drakewyrm 10 місяців тому

      Sinn is definitely not the value it used to be anymore (5 years ago these watches were in the

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Drakewyrm To be fair everything has gone up in this is perfectly normally just look at how much it costs to heat your home compared to 5 years ago or the price of electricity, everyone of these brands has to heat and power there workshops and everyone wants a pay rise every few years.

    • @ChaPPie01
      @ChaPPie01 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@ClickSpringReview well said..everything beter then 1000+ buck's seiko R6 movement's 🤷‍♂️with to many CQ issues 🤦

  • @blakris9382
    @blakris9382 11 місяців тому +1

    on the laco, you chose anti coating only on one side?

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      No this one hasn't got it on the outside unfortunately :(

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 10 місяців тому +1

      Outside coating is a bad idea 😡

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  10 місяців тому

      @@Sumerdini I like it myself makes a big difference

    • @blakris9382
      @blakris9382 10 місяців тому

      why???@@Sumerdini

  • @MrBacchus18
    @MrBacchus18 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm a Sinn fanboy soooo...

  • @goldenskies9884
    @goldenskies9884 11 місяців тому +2

    Hey, @ClickSpringReviews your channel is great. I recently got a Sinn 104 and the bezel is misaligned. I was wondering if I could fix this myself or do I have to send it into Sinn to align it?

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому +2

      Glad you like the channel Sir and welcome aboard , regarding the alignment the 104 has the Captive bezel system its really simple to remove just back the screws out from around the bezel a little but leaving the one at 12 o'clock,. underneath should be the spring ring with a number of different holes this allows you to adjusted it , In this video I think you may see it 👍🏻ua-cam.com/video/8q9wSm0wrnY/v-deo.htmlsi=izp3EzJn17TM7CSE

    • @goldenskies9884
      @goldenskies9884 11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for the quick and helpful reply. I’ll look into it

    • @robertlock6041
      @robertlock6041 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ClickSpringReviewYes, but be careful to use the correctly sized screwdriver. Don't break the screws!

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      @@goldenskies9884 Anytime 👍🏻

  • @HarryUnchained
    @HarryUnchained 2 місяці тому

    I don't agree about the accuracy due to the fact that the Sinn uses the top grade movement, it may be better and consistent but mine came in from Sinn at +8s per day. Of course it can be easily adjusted but I don't mind that. A few of my NH35 and PT5000 watches from China came in like +1s per day. So, the top grade movement doesn't mean that you will get the best accuracy, you're paying for the best assembling quality (quiet rotor, smooth winding), less positional variant and better shock resistant.

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  2 місяці тому

      Hi Harry, Top Grade movements are adjusted in 5 positions were as standard is only 3
      Your +8 just over the limit, TWR (UK Service Centre) say that all Sinn's they expect to run to within COSC standards

  • @Danlikescheesteaks
    @Danlikescheesteaks 10 місяців тому +1

    I’d honestly rather the Hamilton get rid of the compass bezel but keep pretty much everything else the same. I guess then it would be a bit more boring, but I think it would make a great daily beater and could also dress it up more without the compass

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  10 місяців тому +1

      I think it would be better swapped out for a count down bezel myself 👍🏻

    • @Danlikescheesteaks
      @Danlikescheesteaks 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ClickSpringReview Would certainly be more useful than a compass lol

  • @melissasmess2773
    @melissasmess2773 11 місяців тому +1

    The Sinn on the fine link is on my shopping list!

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      Great choice Melissa you wont be disappointed if you get one

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 11 місяців тому +2

    whats better
    LACO or STOWA?

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому +2

      I can say Laco is better to deal with as they are happy to send my review models :) , I do like that Laco have more original models were as Stowa seem to copy many of the other brands . Sorry I cant be more help Sir

    • @TN-lc4ss
      @TN-lc4ss 11 місяців тому +1

      Sinn

    • @zillsburyy1
      @zillsburyy1 11 місяців тому +2

      @@TN-lc4ss no to overrated sin. i sold mine

    • @wisamal-hakim5531
      @wisamal-hakim5531 11 місяців тому +1

      Excellent question!!
      I think Stowa make a slightly better watch but Laco is better value as they are cheaper. Very similar

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 2 місяці тому

      LACO IS BETTER 🔥

  • @robertlock6041
    @robertlock6041 11 місяців тому +4

    Hi Barry and gentlemen, both Sinn and Laco are legendary, but for different reasons. As a Sinn owner already I'd go for the Laco Atlantic 39 with Top grade movement. Right behind this is the Sinn and scrabbling around at the bottom of the heap is that other thing...
    Thanks for this Barry, I really enjoyed it. LG Bob 🍾 🥂

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      I'm the same I love the 556 I feel its a watch for all occasions but I do like the Laco , its a solid funky watch great build quality and stands out , I remember why I said its my favourite watch under a grand Bob 👍🏻

    • @robertlock6041
      @robertlock6041 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ClickSpringReview So how much of Laco production is in house, Barry? I know that Archimede and Limes do well in this regard, as do Sinn of course. Can you enlighten me? Thanks Barry 😊

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      They use movement for ETA Sellita , Miyota many of which they offer in Top Grade , I believe there watches are assembled in Germany

    • @robertlock6041
      @robertlock6041 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ClickSpringReview I know about the movements, but I don't know where components like cases and hands are sourced. Obviously jewels will be bought in, crystals too, but I was curious as to whether major components are made in house, sourced in Germany or came from the far East...🙂

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому +1

      I'm pretty sure the clasps and bracelets are brought , Sinn cases with SUG on them are German made , Every brand these had are reliant on the Swiss and far east , I was talking to Bremount watches the other day and said without the Swiss they wouldn't exist as they even when it comes to plating small parts there is nowhere in the UK who do it . Many brands rely on the far east for rest because they have the set up for it and it keeps costs down. Fears watches are honest about where all there parts come from the only part they don't list is there new bracelet which leads me to think it must be the China. All the best matey 🫡

  • @wisamal-hakim5531
    @wisamal-hakim5531 11 місяців тому +2

    The 556 is just a modern classic. Built and regulated very well, looks great with any strap or bracelet, versatile, legibility off the charts. Easily my top choice.
    I really like the Laco especially the one with the orange accents.
    Sorry but not keen at all on this Hamilton. The manual khaki field tool watch and the murph are perhaps the only watches in their line up I would vaguely consider.

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      The 556 just has a timeless look and feel about it and can fit any occasion

    • @Sumerdini
      @Sumerdini 10 місяців тому +1

      37 mm, expedition, IMO, the best watch Hamilton ever built. Correct formula =>> no date, 37mm, terrific short lugs, 20mm strap, military diver appearance, screw down crown, sapphire back windowed screw case, excellent top grade mechanism with ETA nivachrone balance spring etc...

  • @crabapple1974
    @crabapple1974 11 місяців тому

    To call it a review you should really review it rather than reading of a spec sheet and fiddling around with it. Comes across as some paid advertisement. Lazy

    • @ClickSpringReview
      @ClickSpringReview  11 місяців тому

      Who called it a Review ??? this is a comparison video if you want to see the review of each watch check them out the for each is in the description. I do say this in the video you must of missed that

  • @Hectorsdad
    @Hectorsdad 11 місяців тому +1

    Sinn, Laco, Hamilton. They are all a bit small for my taste though.