This was two minutes of dialogue and then twenty more of repeating it. This would have been much more effective if the human diplomat had said after the third challenge, "I am done repeating myself. You are welcome to witness our conviction at your leisure." (Aka, FAFO)
The entire dialogue was, shall I say, stupid. Andrus's first question to the Council should have been, "How many of your own colonies and people would you sacrifice for the illusion of unity?" A typical Council (government) utilizing "rules for thee, not for me". We've experienced that very policy for years, our breaking point has been reached.
I'm not as damning as many of these comments. There are certainly tropes here, but unlike tons of HFY stories, this one at least has real balance in the cause-and-effect component. The story seems to be that humanity tried to play by the council rules, but was shunned as a also-ran, so took matters into our own hands. The council arguments may be imperfect, but at least the core of the story is "good" HFY. I really like this after watching so many poorly-written HFY videos where I want to throw up after hearing the words "absolute precision" for the billionth time. This isn't perfect, but it's a genuinely OK short-form political statement of intent. Nice job guys.
The core of the story is good, but much of the discussion is flawed. Most of the story could have been done in two minutes while many areas were left open. Like the attackers of the human colonies, and why the council does nothing. It really needs to be fleshed out to make it a decent story.
@@rizon72 Andrews mentioned pirates at some point, so i guess those are the attackers and council didn't do anything because of complicated bureaucracy and ignoring a new and young species
@@rizon72 I agree that it could use some fleshing out, but I see things in my head as a movie playing out in my mind. This was an intense almost come to jesus moment for the council and Humanity. I could easily see a 2nd episode here you write it from a member of the council doing his own person investigation, and that could lead to a myriad of stories. maybe the pirates were paid by another council species to provoke this out of the humans. So that that said species could push more arms building up, because they benefit from that. Maybe pirates are just a symptom of a council that has grown decadent, and lazy. The list can go on. But what I got from this story, was. "We have had enough, either do something, or we will. We are tire of asking permission, our next moves may only be to apologize." going off the old adage of its better to ask forgiveness than permission. What I liked about this story is that the techno babble was left out. I have only recently gotten into Hfy stories, but so far alot of these almost come off at times like star trek scripts. Which I like, but it has its time and place. This story eluded to Humans being quite powerful on their own, but didn't not delve into the techno babble. it was nice.
to be honest... the story itself felt like generated by an AI repeating the same piece of dialogue with only some words changed, not going anywhere, also 'maybe, just maybe...' typical things done by storytelling AIs
Anyone else expecting the council scene to be done in like 2 mins and the remaining 20 mins a systematic attack against the universe by the human because no one’s would listen when they said. Please just stop attacking us. Or else.
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The tension was palpable. I was waiting for the palpable to be used. This is such an odd would. The only place I ever hear it is in these Sci-Fi stories. I hate this word.
this one felt like it could have been shorter. the story could have ended 3 or 4 times and all the stretching it was doing to i think make it longer was, some thing. the story it self could have been more to. like i felt the alien commander and the human could have been frends or at lest know each other. at the end i thought for a minute that might happen. well for what it was it was ok
This is fiction. It and sci fi fat that. Do not expect current day procedures and sensibilities. Cultures change, and same do the ways things are handled.
this was a piss poor story. the only thing that needed to be said, when they attacked our colony, were they acting within the rules and laws of the council? if not, then our response should not be limited or regulated by council laws and rules. you cannot act outside the law, and then expect protection of the same law you violated. one of the keystones to our values is the law of self defense. someone attacks you, you are well within your rights to protect yourself. if the council does not want repeats of this incident, then you need to ensure others do not attack us, we will respond in kind to protect ourselves from repeat incidents.
Agreed...I have always been a fan of overwhelming reciprocity...destroy our colony? Cool...say goodbye to the entire system you have a base in. I refuse to entertain the idea that self defense is somehow a unique idea to humans, but it seems to be a repeated trope in these HFY stories. The Aliens are always so put off by our apparent insistence upon defending ourselves. In short, the OP needs to think about the motivations of the council and it's members a bit more, and lay off the idiotic dialogue.
Typically horrible. If you don’t think so, go to a library and check out a real SciFi book. Barely had a hint if story line with random phrases hung off of it.
@ I am curious about the technology used to produce all of these very similar stories and of course UA-cam keeps serving them up to me. If I may suggest an author from the distant past: E.E. Doc Smith and the Lensman series. You might find them to be entertaining. I wish I knew of a better way to interact with the “author”. For instance I notice a few glitches in the wording relative to the voice, I wonder if it’s in the speech generation or in the story line generation.
@@Dr.GeoDave i read the Lensmen 60 years ago in high school, bought the Science Fiction Book Club hardcover, wore it out, and bought another which I still have. Why does EVERYBODY discount the possibility that actual people write these things? Maybe because AI is presumed to be EVERYWHERE and there MUST be no alternative. People must obviously lack the skills that we used to have. Have you read David Weber's Honor Harrington series, itself a spacegoing version of Horatio Hornblower (also a good read) , or anything by Anne McCaffrey, or CJ Cherryh? While really old, Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote a lot of really good tales.
I've seen a few of these, and I'm afraid that in book form these would be pulp sci-fi. Unoriginal storylines whose only purpose seems to be the puffing out of humanity's collective chest. If there really was a galactic council, I'm certain that technologically, and morally, humanity would be as children compared to the other more advanced races, and provide no more threat than a peashooter would against a main battle tank. Very unimaginative, poorly written, and whichever AI is in control of the subtitles needs to remember the first spelling of names and not change it every time those names are repeated. The authors would do well to study the works of Asimov, Herbert, Banks, Hamilton, Reynolds, etc.. Very poor stuff.
There ya go again. "Palpable." Apparently you guys are required to use the word in every story, sometimes 3 or 4 times. C'mon boys, it's thesaurus time.
Total waste of time. gasbagging that was stretched out over 20 minutes when it could have been said in 2 minutes. Another for the YT "Never watch again", such rubbish!!!!
yeah...nothing in this is HFY material. Groveling and kowtowing to a "council" and asking for permission to defend ourselves is hardly the "fuck yeah" I was waiting (and waiting and waiting and waiting) for. Overall...pretty much everything about this story is 2/10.
This feels like a thirty second plot stretched over twenty two minutes.
11 at 2x speed 😂
I barely notice how 💩 the stories are
I can't believe I made it to the 12:59 mark before I called it quits and downvoted the video. That is 13 minutes of my life that I can't get back.
Because it is
I’ve just gone ten minutes and I’ve had hrs that felt shorter. Too repetitive.
This was two minutes of dialogue and then twenty more of repeating it.
This would have been much more effective if the human diplomat had said after the third challenge, "I am done repeating myself. You are welcome to witness our conviction at your leisure." (Aka, FAFO)
I liked it. Thank you. This is entertainment, not english class. 😢
The entire dialogue was, shall I say, stupid. Andrus's first question to the Council should have been, "How many of your own colonies and people would you sacrifice for the illusion of unity?" A typical Council (government) utilizing "rules for thee, not for me". We've experienced that very policy for years, our breaking point has been reached.
I would have drawn the line when they said, "allowed to act independently." Lmao, permission!? Are you serious? I wasn't asking a question!!!
A group of humans wearing their shirts on their heads: Are you threatening us? We were the Great Cornholios!!!!
LONG LIVE THE ALLMIGHTY BUNGHOLES!
Honestly, that’s impressive! I’m really enjoying it.
30 seconds in and I'm waiting for Chen
i enjoyed every second of this story
I'm not as damning as many of these comments. There are certainly tropes here, but unlike tons of HFY stories, this one at least has real balance in the cause-and-effect component. The story seems to be that humanity tried to play by the council rules, but was shunned as a also-ran, so took matters into our own hands. The council arguments may be imperfect, but at least the core of the story is "good" HFY. I really like this after watching so many poorly-written HFY videos where I want to throw up after hearing the words "absolute precision" for the billionth time. This isn't perfect, but it's a genuinely OK short-form political statement of intent. Nice job guys.
The core of the story is good, but much of the discussion is flawed. Most of the story could have been done in two minutes while many areas were left open. Like the attackers of the human colonies, and why the council does nothing. It really needs to be fleshed out to make it a decent story.
@@rizon72 Andrews mentioned pirates at some point, so i guess those are the attackers and council didn't do anything because of complicated bureaucracy and ignoring a new and young species
@@rizon72 I agree that it could use some fleshing out, but I see things in my head as a movie playing out in my mind. This was an intense almost come to jesus moment for the council and Humanity. I could easily see a 2nd episode here you write it from a member of the council doing his own person investigation, and that could lead to a myriad of stories. maybe the pirates were paid by another council species to provoke this out of the humans. So that that said species could push more arms building up, because they benefit from that.
Maybe pirates are just a symptom of a council that has grown decadent, and lazy. The list can go on. But what I got from this story, was. "We have had enough, either do something, or we will. We are tire of asking permission, our next moves may only be to apologize." going off the old adage of its better to ask forgiveness than permission. What I liked about this story is that the techno babble was left out. I have only recently gotten into Hfy stories, but so far alot of these almost come off at times like star trek scripts.
Which I like, but it has its time and place. This story eluded to Humans being quite powerful on their own, but didn't not delve into the techno babble. it was nice.
It feels like I've heard this story a thousand times already
Mr Andruss this council meeting could have been an email.
Well Done!! Loved the story!
to be honest... the story itself felt like generated by an AI
repeating the same piece of dialogue with only some words changed, not going anywhere, also 'maybe, just maybe...'
typical things done by storytelling AIs
All this channel does is post AI written and narrated stories.
This AI is still in the fifth grade. A C+ student at best.
@@flashgordon3715 in my elementary school we wouldnt even get a D- for that kind of thing
That was my thought. A good core idea.
So nice sharing🎉
Anyone else expecting the council scene to be done in like 2 mins and the remaining 20 mins a systematic attack against the universe by the human because no one’s would listen when they said. Please just stop attacking us. Or else.
Humans: Be reasonable.
Galactic Council: No!
"Easy, don't attack us and you won't have anything to worry about." Very few errors, congrats.
I don't get it who was attacking the human colonies was is some species that was on the council if not why did the council care?
Excellent!
I like it but you repeat alot.....i mean ALOT....what is half hour could be said in 10 mins
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Where is the rest of the story???
The tension was palpable. I was waiting for the palpable to be used. This is such an odd would. The only place I ever hear it is in these Sci-Fi stories. I hate this word.
I'm just here for the clicky mandibles, I can relate as my mandible frequently clicks.
strange diplomatic plots, but for machine story, it's alright
this one felt like it could have been shorter. the story could have ended 3 or 4 times and all the stretching it was doing to i think make it longer was, some thing. the story it self could have been more to. like i felt the alien commander and the human could have been frends or at lest know each other. at the end i thought for a minute that might happen. well for what it was it was ok
11:41 Yeah, bored now.
The idea is there, and it's alright, but 70% of this is just the same
Humans: Fuck around and Find out
Aliens: surely theres another way
not a bad story ……..
"Maybe, just maybe" PLEASE stop using that phrase. One "Maybe" is sufficient
Uffh its like loistening to trump blaa blaa blaa.
I found this rather dull. Nice premise. Poorly executed.
Sinne when is Military Personal in Diplomatie mission
This is fiction. It and sci fi fat that. Do not expect current day procedures and sensibilities. Cultures change, and same do the ways things are handled.
This channel is good too if you like Sci-fi, www.youtube.com/@SciFiTime, they try to remove cliche words like: palpable etc.
..... nothing happened. Max word count summary of the first paragraph of a story.
this was a piss poor story. the only thing that needed to be said, when they attacked our colony, were they acting within the rules and laws of the council? if not, then our response should not be limited or regulated by council laws and rules. you cannot act outside the law, and then expect protection of the same law you violated. one of the keystones to our values is the law of self defense. someone attacks you, you are well within your rights to protect yourself. if the council does not want repeats of this incident, then you need to ensure others do not attack us, we will respond in kind to protect ourselves from repeat incidents.
Agreed...I have always been a fan of overwhelming reciprocity...destroy our colony? Cool...say goodbye to the entire system you have a base in. I refuse to entertain the idea that self defense is somehow a unique idea to humans, but it seems to be a repeated trope in these HFY stories. The Aliens are always so put off by our apparent insistence upon defending ourselves.
In short, the OP needs to think about the motivations of the council and it's members a bit more, and lay off the idiotic dialogue.
Typically horrible. If you don’t think so, go to a library and check out a real SciFi book. Barely had a hint if story line with random phrases hung off of it.
So go someplace else.
I liked it.
@ feedback to the “author” should be a valuable thing to the developer, it’s the only way this genre will grow.
@@Dr.GeoDave yes, but badmouthing the entire genre is not " feedback".
If he dislikes all of it that much -
Go someplace else.
@ I am curious about the technology used to produce all of these very similar stories and of course UA-cam keeps serving them up to me. If I may suggest an author from the distant past: E.E. Doc Smith and the Lensman series. You might find them to be entertaining. I wish I knew of a better way to interact with the “author”. For instance I notice a few glitches in the wording relative to the voice, I wonder if it’s in the speech generation or in the story line generation.
@@Dr.GeoDave i read the Lensmen 60 years ago in high school, bought the Science Fiction Book Club hardcover, wore it out, and bought another which I still have.
Why does EVERYBODY discount the possibility that actual people write these things?
Maybe because AI is presumed to be EVERYWHERE and there MUST be no alternative.
People must obviously lack the skills that we used to have.
Have you read David Weber's Honor Harrington series, itself a spacegoing version of Horatio Hornblower (also a good read) , or anything by Anne McCaffrey, or CJ Cherryh?
While really old, Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote a lot of really good tales.
I've seen a few of these, and I'm afraid that in book form these would be pulp sci-fi. Unoriginal storylines whose only purpose seems to be the puffing out of humanity's collective chest. If there really was a galactic council, I'm certain that technologically, and morally, humanity would be as children compared to the other more advanced races, and provide no more threat than a peashooter would against a main battle tank. Very unimaginative, poorly written, and whichever AI is in control of the subtitles needs to remember the first spelling of names and not change it every time those names are repeated. The authors would do well to study the works of Asimov, Herbert, Banks, Hamilton, Reynolds, etc.. Very poor stuff.
A lot of these quicky stories are repeating with a little rearranging.
There ya go again. "Palpable." Apparently you guys are required to use the word in every story, sometimes 3 or 4 times. C'mon boys, it's thesaurus time.
And how are you this palpable day? Palpable?
Commander Chen respectfully disagrees with you. so does Major Sanchez =-p
FAFO on a galactic scale
Total waste of time. gasbagging that was stretched out over 20 minutes when it could have been said in 2 minutes.
Another for the YT "Never watch again", such rubbish!!!!
yeah...nothing in this is HFY material. Groveling and kowtowing to a "council" and asking for permission to defend ourselves is hardly the "fuck yeah" I was waiting (and waiting and waiting and waiting) for. Overall...pretty much everything about this story is 2/10.
Great concept written with mediocrity, unfortunate.
Probably worst video in the channel
Reminds me of 4 years of America being invaded with the help of tyranical government handing out rules for Americans to follow while invaders do not
AI bullshit. Repeat the same theme over and over in different ways.