Scuba Diving emergency, out of air in a fast current! St. Lawrence River

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  • @kentac1911
    @kentac1911 5 років тому +15

    Your dive buddy saved you for sure. They are a true buddy! I would dive with them anytime! They were calm and did not hesitate in donating you their air! Great buddy work!!

  • @southaussielad2496
    @southaussielad2496 5 років тому +124

    Dude, where's the secondary reg!!! Mines about 6ft or so and bright yellow, it stands out like dogs balls for this exact reason. Stay safe people👌

    • @jackmarshall3214
      @jackmarshall3214 4 роки тому +8

      Wym? His own second reg didnt work cuz of the air loss and the buddy had an integrated secondary in his inflater hose

    • @Justins-Adventures
      @Justins-Adventures 4 роки тому +15

      @@jackmarshall3214 he's asking about the buddies secondary. The buddy has a dual inflator/secondary

    • @jackmarshall3214
      @jackmarshall3214 4 роки тому

      Justin thats what i said

    • @kimberlyfendt8282
      @kimberlyfendt8282 3 роки тому +3

      I was taught to dive using my bright yellow reg. If my buddy is in trouble, it takes less time to grab out of my mouth and shove it in theirs. I know where my backup is, instead of someone who may be in a panic or medical emergency looking.

    • @cameronwalls9727
      @cameronwalls9727 3 роки тому +4

      @@jackmarshall3214 your always supposed to have a secondary regulator for you dive buddy just in case

  • @serofu
    @serofu 5 років тому +17

    Geez man. Glad you guys made it to the surface safe and sound. I haven’t seen buddy breathing like that in a while but it is a skill worth being trained in. Excellent teamwork and excellent communication. Looks like everybody was offering you their regs.

  • @Superduper666
    @Superduper666 3 роки тому +65

    I like how that person in the beginning gave up their mouthpiece without second thought

    • @gameonyolo1
      @gameonyolo1 3 роки тому +2

      No shit

    • @SpearingWithSlurpey
      @SpearingWithSlurpey 3 роки тому +3

      @@gameonyolo1 ​ Its not the typical safe thing to do is give up your own then you're out of air. Supposed to give the octo and hold onto your buddy who has no air.

    • @30minutesLess
      @30minutesLess 3 роки тому +2

      When someone hits me with the oh shit signal I give them my reg cause it’s already cleared and helps with panic. And once they get calm we swap.

    • @Imozart0341I
      @Imozart0341I 3 роки тому

      @@SpearingWithSlurpey I hear but I’m the military we’re told to share and head back to the surface. Sometimes you suck in air more than you should. In heavy currents i practically drink my air supply

    • @ejstras
      @ejstras 3 роки тому +4

      @@SpearingWithSlurpey A lot of advanced divers actually use a primary donate set up with a necklace octo, so you donate your primary regulator thats on a longer hose wrapped around you and then put your octo into your mouth which is on a shorter, easily accessible necklace. This allows you to do this much faster and emulates the more likely scenario in which a panicked diver rips the reg directly out of your mouth to use themselves.

  • @charlie12590
    @charlie12590 5 років тому +74

    They didn’t panic👍 and that’s number one ☝️ good job

    • @fabriziomonti8579
      @fabriziomonti8579 5 років тому +6

      Actually they did panic a bit, look how fast the breath is😅 the important thing is that they handled it!

    • @frankcuba5231
      @frankcuba5231 4 роки тому

      You think he DID a good job. . ? ? . . like nobody plan the trip. . neither brings an octopus.

    • @Engineer9736
      @Engineer9736 6 місяців тому

      Can't really properly see what they're doing... seems like in the beginning the guy did get the primary of the guy next to him, and the donating guy took his (black colored) octopus. Not sure why they went buddy breathing after that, seems unnecessary risk. They should have started focusing on getting out ASAP (but with deco stops)

  • @never2old-sd638
    @never2old-sd638 7 років тому +322

    This video shows how inconvenient is the new system of not having a regular octopus and instead having a mouth piece in the bc hose. I am sticking to the old octopus system.

    • @HinMLee
      @HinMLee 6 років тому +35

      I would agree. I had an inflator/regulator combo and decided that it was not going to be useful in case of out-of-air. Everyone understands a yellow octo hose/regulator.

    • @SuperBamagolfer
      @SuperBamagolfer 6 років тому +12

      Complely agree

    • @penguin12902
      @penguin12902 6 років тому +36

      I would be very uncomfortable giving up my primary 2nd stage in an emergency, and having to get myself onto my inflator while worrying about my buddy getting air at the same time. I would much rather have an octopus. Hand buddy the octo - he purges and breathes, we go up alive. Easy, and safe.
      Plus, the yellow hose makes it obvious which one to grab...If I'm in trouble, I don't even need my buddy's permission or assistance....just grab the yellow hose and purge.

    • @penguin12902
      @penguin12902 5 років тому +33

      @@fanatictsx Not at all how I was trained...and again, as a new diver would make me very uncomfortable. I wouldn't want to take my reg out of my mouth in a high stress situation like that. Why complicate it? Hand buddy the yellow octo hose. Done.

    • @rickflippin1
      @rickflippin1 5 років тому +7

      fanatictsx I agree to me it seems like a great set up with your Octo right at your neck on a bungee and enough room with the primary just in case needed I dig it gonna try it thanks

  • @raywickham682
    @raywickham682 5 років тому +86

    Instructor here - if you're offering criticism, shut up. These guys probably aren't tech divers and they did what they should. They learned and lot from this and will more than likely change their configurations to improve it. However, they me the #1 rule - they came up alive!

    • @demitriosvekkf.z.7768
      @demitriosvekkf.z.7768 5 років тому +1

      that is definitely the #1 rule yep

    • @thierryberthy1735
      @thierryberthy1735 5 років тому +5

      You don't have to be a tec duver ti know the basic rules mister instructor

    • @braedengriffiths4249
      @braedengriffiths4249 5 років тому +2

      Thierry Bertholino
      “The point he made”
      “Your head”

    • @dannysplace7
      @dannysplace7 5 років тому +4

      @@braedengriffiths4249 His point's bullshit. This is a perfect case everyone can learn from and you do that by criticising it, criticism isn't a bad thing.

    • @ktman36
      @ktman36 4 роки тому

      Just a question, can the console be disconnected from the 1st stage by a buddy? Would the stop the leak?

  • @darrellgrainger212
    @darrellgrainger212 5 років тому +41

    Someone just pointed this video out to me. I've seen people test hose failures. The high pressure hose is a pinhole opening. So the air loss is usually quite slow. The low pressure hose (regulator) is a much bigger hole. It was made to deliver a lot of air because that is what is needed on a regulator. I'm quite surprised that a rupture in the pressure gauge caused such rapid loss of air. I guess all high pressure hoses aren't made the same.
    Nice job staying calm. Not as pretty as practicing in the pool but if everyone walked away okay then it was a great recovery.

    • @DonFassbender
      @DonFassbender 5 років тому +2

      Modern HP hoses do in fact have a pinhole opening because they need not deliver a large volume of air as you've stated. This is not by accident. I have vintage HP hoses that look more like a low pressure hose with a larger internal cavity for air to flow. Sometimes we learn from our mistakes.
      Perhaps the diver had this leak throughout the dive and it worsened during the dive creating the perceived emergency? With a constant leak he could have drained his supply quicker than his buddies and so upon ascent needed to share air.
      They appeared to have handled themselves efficiently enough and I was glad to see one donor continue to vent air while his regulator wasn't in his mouth. They did well all things considered. It appeared to me to *almost* be a practice run or training session.
      Well done.

    • @Levi-wk2hg
      @Levi-wk2hg 5 років тому +6

      Absolutely correct. I suspect the SPG HP line had been leaking for much longer than the "2 breathes" the OP indicates. Which tells me someone isn't monitoring their air on the regular like they should be. The video linked below demonstrates the difference between a LP and an HP line rupture. The HP took 56 minutes(albeit at 3 ft) to deplete as opposed to 3 min for the LP line.
      ua-cam.com/video/rLr179pej4Q/v-deo.html
      This video also illustrates why a BC inflator/octo setup is dumb, and why a pony bottle or even the "spare air" would have been a nice option to have while the group got their shit organized.

  • @DollhouseTutorials
    @DollhouseTutorials 5 років тому +49

    I have to say as a diver when you are under water things happen super fast and you only have a split second to decide what to do. You can't judge them because this was not your experience, this was theirs and they all survived. I'm sure they will learn from this experience and I am sure this experience scared the bageebeezzz out of them.
    ●DON'T JUDGE JUST BE THANKFUL THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO DO STAYED CLOSE WHILE DIVINGE AND SHARED AIR●

    • @Scooopdog
      @Scooopdog 5 років тому +1

      Laurie Heisler that’s fair enough but what I seen here was a bad choice of equipment by others. The standard setup especially in recreational diving shouldn’t be just for yourself, I think they done well under pressure if that safety line had have given way I’d say we’d be reading a different story.

    • @palipalie
      @palipalie 5 років тому

      You always have time to think or take it

  • @gabrielex
    @gabrielex 17 днів тому

    And this is why you don't dive alone. Very good job by your buddy immediately recognizing the gravity of the situation and giving you his reg in no time.

  • @DieVorleserin2013
    @DieVorleserin2013 3 роки тому +11

    Absolutely amazing - wonderful how each one cares for the other one.

  • @fishingsouthwestflorida1586
    @fishingsouthwestflorida1586 9 років тому +283

    people should watch these kind of videos while learning to dive. scare them to be safe!

    • @LogansAdventures
      @LogansAdventures  9 років тому +23

      +Luke Mancuso It would be good at really emphasizing the buddy system and how it works!

    • @rickflippin1
      @rickflippin1 7 років тому +1

      Fishing SouthWest Florida exactly why i do

    • @DontSayItToMe
      @DontSayItToMe 7 років тому +1

      What I'm doing, lol. How does this happen , am I seeing things right? Are they sharing a regulator?

    • @zerkergames9459
      @zerkergames9459 6 років тому +3

      Fishing SouthWest Florida i do lots of diving and all this video made me thing was why didnt the other diver have a spare regulator

    • @miguelmartinez4888
      @miguelmartinez4888 6 років тому +2

      buddy system work but I dive alone most of the time 99% of the time that why my buddy its a mini air bottle for emergency.

  • @rallzam
    @rallzam 2 роки тому +3

    this is so freaking awesome, im so happy you guys did work so nice together, very great job guys! all of you rock.

  • @dsanti4069
    @dsanti4069 6 років тому +39

    The buddy who helped the Out of air diver had a safe second BC combo system . He was loaning the OOA diver his primary reg . It got chaotic with the 3rd buddy tried to offer his traditional octupus. Instead of adding more confusion they should of kept it simple and let the original buddy continue to provide secondary air

    • @seskipper806
      @seskipper806 5 років тому +3

      That's what I was thinking. Everyone survived though, so it was a complete success. I think they learned something and so can we by watching these types of videos. Maybe the lesson to be learned here is that if everyone is breathing, focus on getting to the surface.

  • @trevorduncan9580
    @trevorduncan9580 2 роки тому +1

    Great job all of you. Amazing to see how your buddies quickly assessed the situation and ensured you had air when needed. What a nightmare though when that regulator started free flowing like that! Can't believe you were able to stay calm.

  • @Sfbaytech
    @Sfbaytech 6 років тому +9

    Good job staying calm and making due with the equipment they had available.

  • @jeffcarter1310
    @jeffcarter1310 5 років тому +7

    I love that the guy out of air pulled the guy in the middle back to the line. That current was gonna take him for sure. Quick thinking under pressure!

    • @terriannm2683
      @terriannm2683 Місяць тому

      The current on the st Lawrence is ripping!!especially this year

    • @terriannm2683
      @terriannm2683 Місяць тому

      Seriously tho...why does no one have an Octo. What am I missing

  • @AG-di5uj
    @AG-di5uj 4 роки тому +4

    I just ran out of last week but I knew it was coming . Thankfully my buddy was there for me and we were able to managed safely but it is truly the worse feeling I have experienced. This guys made it alive and it what counts . I will keep my bright yellow octopus.
    Check ur air every 3 mins- seems this guy had a big leak

  • @alexanderhay5500
    @alexanderhay5500 8 років тому +52

    This is one reason why my recreational kit is setup just like my tech kit....I use a 7ft hose and a short hose on a necklace....this would have come in handy for the troubled diver.

    • @alisongrundy9977
      @alisongrundy9977 6 років тому

      Alexander Hay spot on

    • @chipperdrewski
      @chipperdrewski 5 років тому +1

      Best possible setup

    • @edmundsisino2285
      @edmundsisino2285 5 років тому

      Alexander Hay stay within the rule of thirds. Configuration can only get you so far. I dive long hose on a single as well, btw.

  • @TheMrMarkW
    @TheMrMarkW 6 років тому +2

    You did amazingly well. Calm under pressure. And failures of HP gauges are more common than people know - they still have an o-ring in which can fail.

  • @mcpower116_lI
    @mcpower116_lI 8 років тому +1

    Buddy system works nicely. Congrats. This is very important video for who don't mind the buddy system. Safety is the most important thing.

    • @Engineer9736
      @Engineer9736 6 місяців тому

      Someone who followed any diving course will know that they need a buddy and an octopus (alternative air supply). Someone who has not followed a diving course should not be diving.

  • @blakestampley6041
    @blakestampley6041 5 років тому +2

    Know your gear and know your buddies comfort levels!! Only Rescue Diver certification level here but I was fortunate enough to learn from Naval dive officers while active duty. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

  • @jayhome2715
    @jayhome2715 5 років тому +6

    Not having a proper 36" bright yellow octopus under your arm, ready at your chest to rip away and give to a buddy is irresponsible in my opinion. Another good video on proving why having a pony bottle on you is valuable!!! Knowing that you are in a strong current with anchor ropes on site, it makes sense having a 2' rope with 2 caribiners on each end equipped with you. When you looked at your SPG it was already reading practically 0. You were lucky you even noticed it at all with a couple of seconds of air left that essentially were precious seconds to grab a buddy reg! Truly amazing! Just imagine if that was at 60 or 100' and your closest buddy was 15' away!!!

  • @Yggdrasil42
    @Yggdrasil42 5 років тому +2

    I see I made the right choice to go with a sidemount setup with long hose. It’s nice to have redundancy and be able to feather my valve. The long hose is definitely easier than this mess of having the octopus integrated with the inflator. Thanks for sharing this vid. Always educational to see.

  • @MarcinEsperanto
    @MarcinEsperanto 8 років тому +12

    Good video! I think your buddy's second was free flowing because of the current which I see was quite strong and might push the diaphragm.
    Good to see all ended up ok.
    Safe diving!

  • @davidoski
    @davidoski 5 років тому +1

    Use always too second stages, one separate from the other, and the emergency one with extra centimeters.... This is a crazy video and lucky you for handle the situation, hope for the next you learnt how to do it faster!

  • @sharathpaps
    @sharathpaps 8 років тому +66

    Excellent team work on the part of everyone involved, especially in not panicking. Congrats. I got a SpareAir for myself for exactly situations like this.

    • @MyScubasteve
      @MyScubasteve 6 років тому +1

      no you have not? no diver carries a spare air?

    • @TheMrMarkW
      @TheMrMarkW 6 років тому

      I dive a twinset with dual 1st stages and the ability to shutdown each side and isolate. Best case scenario would be a pony here in this situation. a spare air at 25m is 3 breaths. Not enough to get you anywhere near the surface without getting bent.

    • @MyScubasteve
      @MyScubasteve 6 років тому +1

      @TheCuilinn No You are wrong, at the very minimum I carry a pony when single tank diving. When I dive a twin set I have two easily isolated sources of breathing mixture. I did a test at 30 m with a pony when I worked abroad as a DM. From 30m a 3 lt pony will only just and I mean just get you to the surface at 18m per min and that is without taking into account stress factor and a higher ROB and in warm water! Thats when I went tech. I carry a 7lt stage now for anything over 30m. Previously as a DM for the busiest cert centre in the world I saw loads of arrogant, stupid people. I remember saving one guy who confident and arrogant he was bounded over to me with a zero contents gauge at 30 m. I was not HIS DM BTW. Spare air's are for life guards plain and simple.

    • @MyScubasteve
      @MyScubasteve 6 років тому

      @TheCuilinn Thats ok you re a wanker anyway.

    • @MyScubasteve
      @MyScubasteve 6 років тому +1

      @TheCuilinn well because I had to carry out an inwater rescue for one guy who died because he was a stupid as you are? As you are so clever what is the weight difference between salt and fresh and how would that effect absolute pressure? or raising an item from depth?

  • @luxlifecoaching
    @luxlifecoaching 6 років тому +4

    I've done that dive, and made the mistake of letting go, That current is unreal (and I'm an experienced diver) but well done. Unless you've been in those waters, it's hard to understand the pressure trying to manouver with that current. I for one would probably not done as well.

    • @dime275
      @dime275 5 років тому

      I love the Vickery. No need to use the rope coming back. Simply leave the bow of the ship, hit the wall and slowly ascend while following the rope the whole way. I only need the rope when up and over the wall in about 30 feet of water near the big basket.

    • @Yggdrasil42
      @Yggdrasil42 5 років тому

      scot shanley No need to be condescending. She already recognizes she would’ve performed worse. Hopefully that’ll lead her to take more training and do OOA drills during regular diving. In the meantime these divers made some big mistakes but also did plenty of things right and succeeded to reach the surface relatively safely. Lots of things they could’ve done better obviously.

  • @TheMuhaAdventures
    @TheMuhaAdventures 6 років тому +2

    Anything can happen, when I dive with my girlfriend and kids I’m always on them to check their gauges!! So important. This team of divers did a good job ! Getting to the surface and sharing air

  • @InfiniteBlue_
    @InfiniteBlue_ 5 років тому +3

    Imagine how this could have ended without the rope.... Good Teamwork guys!

  • @wesniper
    @wesniper 8 років тому +152

    Dude you guys don't carry octopus!

    • @divingquokka
      @divingquokka 7 років тому +8

      Are you blind? He gets his buddy's octopus (after first taking his regular). His own octopus would be useless because of the pressure loss in the system.

    • @austinbowles2103
      @austinbowles2103 7 років тому

      Waseem Mattar like the guy infront could not find it at first saw it im the bwck floating around

    • @chookchack
      @chookchack 7 років тому +18

      the buddy is using a octo integrated inflator, as you can see he gave his primary 2nd stage to his buddy then used his inflator as octo. the second guy has an octo but wrong hose color, should have a bright yellow hose. im intrigued why they kept on kicking even though they are holding on a rope, you're just consuming more air. Nice buddy breath though.

    • @HinMLee
      @HinMLee 6 років тому +4

      His HP is leaking, not his second stage.

    • @HinMLee
      @HinMLee 6 років тому +1

      The buddy is using a integrated inflator/regulator and that hose is normally black. I have not seen a yellow inflator hose for sale yet so maybe someone ought to make one.

  • @obliviousdude9437
    @obliviousdude9437 5 років тому +6

    This looked fine at first. Nothing wrong with the integrated octo, at least at first. Out of air diver signals, second diver hands him his primary, and starts breathing from the integrated octo. But then at some point somebody is actually buddy breathing with the out of air diver. WTH is that about?

    • @newaysss
      @newaysss 5 років тому +3

      i also thought the same..why did they change and started buddy breathing if everybody already had a reg lol just end the dive as is.. maybe more info for the viewers

  • @BihansGMVs
    @BihansGMVs 5 років тому +8

    I’m a diver and love watching videos like this. What they did right what they did wrong how to deal with the situation next time etc.
    I refuse to dive with anyone who I don’t feel comfortable with and they gotta have a octopus 😂

    • @ereynoldful3974
      @ereynoldful3974 5 років тому

      As Jill Heinerth says, don't dive with someone that's FEAR-LESS. prep for every single thing that can go wrong. And yeah, a lot of videos everyone has an opinion. I mostly learn from UA-cam videos that there are a lot of "dive Instructors" 🙄 these days. I see a lot of vacation divers being weighed down too much.

  • @thegamerboneless2864
    @thegamerboneless2864 2 роки тому

    O man this was rough to watch, I’m very glad you guys made it out. Way to improvise.

  • @pjmvdbroek
    @pjmvdbroek 8 років тому +17

    Consider using a long hose (7ft) on your primary reg, because the out of gas diver has more room to manouver

    • @NZBloodshoT
      @NZBloodshoT 8 років тому

      Entanglement?

    • @pjmvdbroek
      @pjmvdbroek 8 років тому +4

      In a Hoghartian configuration hoses run close to your body, so entanglement is not an issue

    • @NZBloodshoT
      @NZBloodshoT 8 років тому

      Good to know. I did have to search up what a Hoghartian configuration it seems like it would a good set up I think Id have to try it first to put my mind at ease though, Ive been entangled before and its always in the back of my mind now.

    • @HinMLee
      @HinMLee 6 років тому

      I got a long hose to alleviate jaw stress and I have not regretted it.

  • @boldtravelerph5072
    @boldtravelerph5072 5 років тому +5

    Its stressful situation but managed to get into surface... Im glad no one hurt.. Double check your gears before jumping into the water guys

  • @chrisgreenwood271
    @chrisgreenwood271 6 років тому

    I know nothing about diving, but you guys managed to stay calm job well done.

  • @IJ_uk
    @IJ_uk 8 років тому +2

    it's good to see the comments here. I've been looking at alot of diving incidents on UA-cam and out of the 10 or so I've looked at this seems to be the only one where the the divers seem to do things correctly. Other videos seems to be inexperienced and stupidity.
    I'm currently setting up a new recreational kit and I'm using a long hose configuration as I feel there is a significant benefit. I'm also removing all hose protectors which you get on the ends so it's possible to fully check for damage. (I'm not suggesting poorly maintained equipment in your video though). thanks again for your feedback on this dive.

  • @macguyification
    @macguyification 5 років тому +44

    Some of these guys need their certs revoked if we’re being honest.

    • @lisakn27
      @lisakn27 4 роки тому +2

      Wasn't his fault..it was equipment failure.

    • @twayne4608
      @twayne4608 4 роки тому +3

      Read description. Divers handled this situation so well 10/10.

    • @jonathanbradley4896
      @jonathanbradley4896 4 роки тому +1

      They did fine, how would you have handled a high pressure hose/spg leak any better?

  • @zacharmy2011
    @zacharmy2011 6 років тому +1

    These guys have nerves of steel good job

  • @forgot_my_name_again
    @forgot_my_name_again 5 років тому +3

    No air as result of a high pressure port leak is rare. It can take over 30 minutes for your tank to be empty. Yes ok this is at the end of a dive with already low air. One thing I know for sure, I will never dive with someone who only has a secondary reg on their inflator hose.

    • @DiscoveryDiversTokyo
      @DiscoveryDiversTokyo 3 роки тому

      This was my thought, too...also wondering the reason for water in the regs...

  • @AuburnAquanaut
    @AuburnAquanaut 6 років тому

    I live fairly close to the St.Lawrence and have dove there a few times. The current can be crazy at times, nice job staying calm.

  • @tal7960
    @tal7960 5 років тому +2

    This is why is it important to practice out of air drills with buddies

  • @danmarelli551
    @danmarelli551 6 років тому +1

    One buddy has a safe second/octopus and one doesn't, I thought the training industry had standardized this. But when you take a 2-day or 2-weekend scuba training course anything is possible. The failure was either a result of the HP hose separating from the fitting or the HP fitting becoming disconnected from the gauge (the latter is unlikely because the HP fitting would have had to thread itself off the gauge and the diver would have noticed leaking from the console for a while). This potential failure would have been caught by inspection and oring replacement during annual service. Thye did pretty good on air sharing except I don't understand why the diver is sharing with multiple divers, one who is unequipped to help their buddy.

  • @mike2652
    @mike2652 4 роки тому

    Thank goodness everyone was close by. Things like this can end tragically if you panic.

  • @denniswilcox6658
    @denniswilcox6658 6 років тому +1

    I used to dive that wreck back in the late 70's early 80's with 2 other divers and my wife. The shallow part of that wreck has extremely fast current as I can attest to. Matter of fact the deepest dive I ever made in the St. Lawrence was off the wreck with one of the guys I used to dive with. We were recovering some stuff from the bottom in 195'. This the wreck just south of the AlexBay bridge or actually west I guess it would be. You can actually swim under it on the stern. I had a similar situation on the Keystorm up river a few miles when certifying an open water class. We carried all manner of safety gear though, I had a 30 cu.ft. bail out on my main tank with separate regulator and also a BC with a bottle fill device that could be used in a dire emergency for breathing if one had to. I look back on it on some of the dives we did back then and being much older now I am amazed we did what we did! Great fun though. Stayed at Kewaaden State Park and kept our boat up there outfitted for diving there all year.

  • @lizzylizzy7550
    @lizzylizzy7550 6 років тому

    whoaaaaaa good job on not panicking and the teamwork!

  • @k956upg
    @k956upg 2 роки тому

    I keep my main on a longer hose as that’s the one people grab..my octopus is equally expensive apecs & hangs round my neck by my chest in yellow so I can find it in pitch black super easy.
    Having twins with isolatable sides then 2 gauges 2 inflators & one reg each side with a mixer valve helps too.

  • @Hartleymolly
    @Hartleymolly 2 роки тому

    I don’t know what happened, but i’am glad they are alive my God

  • @IJ_uk
    @IJ_uk 8 років тому +14

    If the SPG fails you can still have a surprising long time till it runs out of air due to the diameter of the hole is very small.

    • @KaironReaps
      @KaironReaps 8 років тому

      By the big size of the bubbles, you can tell that air loss was significant.

    • @IJ_uk
      @IJ_uk 8 років тому +6

      +Reaper yes, but nowhere near the amount of a second stage failure.

    • @LogansAdventures
      @LogansAdventures  8 років тому +2

      I understand that however when I signaled my buddy I couldn't suck anymore air through the regulator, it got hard to pull then water managed to come through it. No idea how or why the diaphragm let that happen

    • @KaironReaps
      @KaironReaps 8 років тому

      +ScubaLogan do you servising your reg every year?

    • @LogansAdventures
      @LogansAdventures  8 років тому +4

      Yup! It was brand new the summer before, used it about 3 times then. Had it in for it's first servicing 2 months before this happened. Used it one time prior on a virgin shipwreck, 35 minutes total. Aqua Lung Legend LX regulator, first stage and octopus. Not sure on the gauge and the computer off hand.

  • @paakss
    @paakss 8 років тому

    dude that is a friend you have there perfect team work!

  • @RichardSlater
    @RichardSlater 4 роки тому

    Calmness saved lives that day

  • @agent.4715
    @agent.4715 5 років тому

    Why did the first guy not have an alternate air source? And why did they pannic so much, it’s easy to solve you just need to relax and tell
    Your buddy out of air so he can give you his alternate air source? It’s a part of the cert course

  • @la5150hi-lophoto
    @la5150hi-lophoto 6 років тому +27

    You better buy that buddy a beer:)

    • @jjoaocostalima
      @jjoaocostalima 3 роки тому

      I want to slap the diver. Taking others oxigen like its mine ... Punxh him.

    • @samuelbadger4371
      @samuelbadger4371 3 роки тому

      @@jjoaocostalima he would’ve died...?

    • @jjoaocostalima
      @jjoaocostalima 3 роки тому

      @@samuelbadger4371 so would the other?? He must stay calm and wait for his turn...

  • @ChiII_BiII
    @ChiII_BiII Рік тому

    Only thing I would prefer to see is one diver stepping in to be the air donor before the ascent starts. The divers are all so close to each other and fiddling with gear while also trying to climb the line. One step at a time, secure the diver, provide air, make sure they are okay, and start the ascent. Easy to say here from the couch. Just glad it ended okay.

  • @marianobarrionorte
    @marianobarrionorte 5 років тому +1

    Great Job, guys!!!

  • @Magdroq
    @Magdroq 5 років тому +2

    Good job they stayed together and managed to get up safely. Imo there was some panic when he couldt find an octopus. When there was an octopus available this would have been so much easier and less stressful.

  • @indianmarine2313
    @indianmarine2313 3 роки тому

    No panic, team work, Technics.... Good job guys!

  • @robmiller5818
    @robmiller5818 5 років тому +1

    I'm a new diver (recently got my aoc) and have a question. I 100% understand wanting the long hose, but why not have it as the bright yellow octo hose? I'm not comfortable giving away my primary (why have two people trying to put in and clear a reg) as opposed to having a long hose octo? The diver with the inflator reg seems to be having issues keeping it in their mouth? The bcd i have (dimension i3) has a place to fold your octo hose over and tuck it in, just leaving the reg stickin out front with the rest of the hose tucked under my arm against my body. My dive buddy and I have practiced a few times and it's very easy to see and grab the reg and just pull the hose out for use, while keeping the line tucked up so it doesnt get entangled.

  • @BigJoe4189
    @BigJoe4189 5 років тому

    Good drill 👍🏼 don’t panic, the only way to survive

    • @bloudiving5643
      @bloudiving5643 5 років тому +1

      really, you just kidding

    • @BigJoe4189
      @BigJoe4189 5 років тому

      Blou Diving
      If you a diver , one thing that will keeps you alive is not to panic, act quick. It’s one thing he is not checking his gauge, I check mine every 5mins.

  • @snandlal2766
    @snandlal2766 2 роки тому

    Where is the buddy's second stage regulator octopus? Why are they buddy breathing?

  • @justriley9157
    @justriley9157 2 роки тому

    Best video ever great dinner you can have after

  • @gdolloway
    @gdolloway 3 роки тому

    This looks like maybe the Vickey?
    I hope they did better training after that. And dumped that integrated air. Yes everyone is alive and made it is the good part. But the cluster that was there shows the lack of training.
    Glad you’re all ok, hope you furthered your education.

  • @frankcuba5231
    @frankcuba5231 4 роки тому

    If you turn the hose, the air stops. . that gives you a few minutes to go up. . and if someone will bring you an octopus. . it would be wonderful. . where they obtained the certification. ?

  • @piter85hh
    @piter85hh 8 років тому +1

    Great team work

  • @bryanlee1887
    @bryanlee1887 5 років тому +13

    A longhose configuration would have been perfect for this kind of situation...

    • @olivermatich2818
      @olivermatich2818 5 років тому

      Bryan Lee forreal. This video makes me want to switch to the hogarthian hose setup a lot.

  • @MrBat000
    @MrBat000 3 роки тому

    if they ran out of air, than why are they still at the bottom of the sea? None attempting to surface...it doesnt matter if there is a current thats pulling you.

  • @OrenNoah
    @OrenNoah 4 роки тому

    Glad no one got hurt (or dead) and good job not going into full-on panic, but the equipment choices these divers made were “suboptimal” to say the least. This problem would have been a trivial inconvenience had one of the other divers been equipped with a primary reg on a long hose. Passing off the main reg is quick and easy, as is the switch to the bungled secondary reg. Then, the two divers would have plenty of space to sort out whatever needs to be sorted out and don’t need to be in each others’ faces.

  • @chriscussion
    @chriscussion 5 років тому +1

    How deep were you before you realized your equipment malfunctioned?

  • @cyrilbarrett4068
    @cyrilbarrett4068 5 років тому +7

    What I see here is confusion and no octopus! If my dive buddy has no octopus I will not dive.

    • @Justins-Adventures
      @Justins-Adventures 4 роки тому

      His buddy has an integrated inflator/octi instead of the traditional octi

  • @romanzalyautdinov
    @romanzalyautdinov 5 років тому +1

    Очень эмоциональное видео, сам как будто это пережил. Ныряю часто один, очень отрезвляет

  • @jonathanbreckenridge4758
    @jonathanbreckenridge4758 5 років тому

    Im confused. Isnt there supposed to be 2 breathers from one tank for situations just like this? Why were they sharing one??

  • @nachodelvallee
    @nachodelvallee 6 років тому +10

    0:15 he shake it just in case it is stuck lmao

  • @o.antonio
    @o.antonio 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this, but i don't understand, the buddy didn't had an octopus and used the hose?!

  • @JackoAgun
    @JackoAgun 5 років тому

    moral velues; do not panic! stay calm & relax. then, go to the surface slowly.

  • @benz110hr
    @benz110hr 3 роки тому

    Very good buddy

  • @jimmytan1251
    @jimmytan1251 6 років тому +8

    Are you guys buddy breathing? why don't you have an octopus? this shoudl be standard gears.

    • @calumaitchison
      @calumaitchison 6 років тому +2

      Sharing air that way probably saves some air for them. if 2 breathe of one tank together probably use more....my dive practice is not recomended for that type of shared ascent. Here in uk, most divers use a main 12/15ltr tank with a seperate 3ltr tank.

    • @jamesgriffiths3706
      @jamesgriffiths3706 5 років тому +1

      Completely agree, would never dive without an octopus

    • @timpage5021
      @timpage5021 5 років тому

      You must be dense. 1st the octopus would be useless because of the pressure loss from initial leak. 2nd the buddy gave him his reg 3rd the other buddy did give him his octopus. They all had octopus.

    • @Yggdrasil42
      @Yggdrasil42 5 років тому

      Tim Page True, but halfway through they were in fact buddy breathing. Looks like that was because the OOA diver had trouble locating the octopus of the bottom-most diver so he signaled out of air again and they shared the main reg.

  • @qamarqayyum
    @qamarqayyum 4 роки тому

    why is he not using alternate source of his buddy ??

  • @mkmorg484
    @mkmorg484 5 років тому

    This is why I have a pony rig ALWAYS! I’ll gladly take the little weight of a 20cf to be self sufficient when doubles aren’t being used.

  • @dang2651
    @dang2651 4 роки тому

    Glad everyone was safe.

  • @boris2342
    @boris2342 2 роки тому

    this is why we check our equipment before every dive

  • @OriginalThisAndThat
    @OriginalThisAndThat 6 років тому +3

    They were like 3m under water?

  • @MegaSlayerr
    @MegaSlayerr 5 років тому +3

    why is there bubbles coming from his air guage ?

    • @DiscoveryDiversTokyo
      @DiscoveryDiversTokyo 3 роки тому

      busted/ruptured barrel o-ring...very commmon leak...this was a bad leak, for sure.

  • @tomwhent8073
    @tomwhent8073 5 років тому +4

    Lots of debate about configuration it seems. At the rec/sport diving level, students are not taught the 7ft long hose. It's not even mentioned. The fact is that most sport diving kit is poorly configured at best.
    This makes it easy on the rental operator but not necessarily good for the diver. Some operators like to call this 'techie crap' or the like. The fact is these people are very ignorant / small-minded and don't know any better. Its what they learned years ago and they are stuck in the Cousteau days.
    I have put a long hose / necklace reg on a new diver with no issues. It is easy and makes sense if you know why you are doing it. I try to explain the benefits of such a system, particularly when using an h valve for redundancy.
    Some sport diving agencies or local shops try to configure people with gear that is ill-suited for currents and looks like a medusa entanglement hazard, not to mention grossly over weighted.
    My opinion, for what it's worth, is that sport diving can benefit from some of the concepts used in tech/DIR/Hogarthian diving because they are safer and more streamlined. The long hose is one such item. When paired properly with an H valve it becomes much safer when malfunctions occur. Ditching the jacket BCD in favor of a harness is another.
    If you are serious about diving, take time to look at these things with an open mind.
    Streamline your gear and set it up clean and simple. Practice using your safety systems in real life. You will be glad you did.

  • @christopherthomas8722
    @christopherthomas8722 Рік тому

    Am I the only one who noticed how the donate always ended up being the primary after the diver fiddles for a brief second trying to find the octo? Doesn’t this just reinforce primary donates philosophy?

  • @OutdoorSurThrival
    @OutdoorSurThrival 6 років тому

    Great buddy/team work!

  • @HolyApplebutter
    @HolyApplebutter 5 років тому +1

    Back in Okinawa, I'd always see Japanese divers going alone. I don't know if it's a cultural thing or just coincidence, but I couldn't imagine going out diving without a buddy. Seems like you'd just be asking for trouble. If that happened to someone alone and unprepared they'd be done for. Especially considering that you're diving in the ocean here, not just a river.

    • @ereynoldful3974
      @ereynoldful3974 5 років тому +1

      Same here in North Florida. I dive the springs and also worked at Madison blue spring state park and would see Japanese divers from time to time going alone and having a friend sitting on the deck waiting or walking around. At peacock there's no ops ranger to check in so you just sign a book. Very dangerous to go into P1 or Orange Grove sink without a buddy

    • @jalspach9215
      @jalspach9215 3 роки тому +2

      It may sound odd but you'd be surprised how many competent solos are out there. I am one. I've been a pro for 40 years - SAR/Safety/Research/Hunting (most of it at night) etc.. CA Abalone & Urchin divers have worked solo for their whole careers. A close Japanese friend is a lobster diver on Izu Oshima Island. He's been working alone for 30 years. Many U/W Photographers as well. We're working. We are not babysitters. We know the risks & prepare for them. And almost all that work is done safely at free ascent depths anyway. The caveat being I wholeheartedly advocate for the buddy system in recreational diving. And while I never butt heads & team up willingly on rec dives/tours, if the opportunity permits, then it's me n' the fish. DO NOT EVER attempt this unless you unquestionably have your shit together, are properly trained & maintain a healthy respect at all times for the element/conditions you're entering.

  • @H2Dwoat
    @H2Dwoat 5 років тому +1

    Hi, when you say came off was it a failure of the connector or was it accidentally disconnected?

  • @GeeDee1810
    @GeeDee1810 5 років тому +1

    I‘m new to diving and just did my open water. Just curious, why did they share the main regulator instead of giving the out of air diver the secondary emergency regulator?

    • @nicklievore1739
      @nicklievore1739 5 років тому

      GeeDee1810 a air 2 setup uses a backup setup that only the user can use. UA-cam air 2 and it may make more sense. Primary reg having the longer hose in this case goes to the one in trouble.

    • @J__Mitchell
      @J__Mitchell 5 років тому

      They didnt have an octopus setup for a spare regulator, so they shared the main one. Important note: it might look like they're panicking but they did a very good job at taking care if each other, look at 1:27 he caught the diver that let go of the line even though they're under so much pressure in that situation. You can see how strong the current is by how fast the bubbles are pulled away from them. They did a good job 👌👍👏

  • @ALL4SCUBA05
    @ALL4SCUBA05 2 роки тому

    Wait. Did I read right? He completely ran out of air but later got onto his secondary and found out it too was out of air. 😮 🤦‍♂️

  • @klixtrio7760
    @klixtrio7760 7 років тому

    "The high pressure line came off the SPG guage, causing a rapid loss of air" How does this make sense, it takes over 20 minutes to drain a full aluminum 80 tank with a HP hose rupture?

    • @Yggdrasil42
      @Yggdrasil42 5 років тому

      Their tanks weren’t full. They were at the end of their dive. Unknown how much they had left exactly.

  • @karendebritt7890
    @karendebritt7890 3 місяці тому

    I thought everyone carries a spare regulator? Im confused 🤔

  • @Lehmann108
    @Lehmann108 6 років тому

    I'm a diver. I don't understand what seems to be near panic movements. Please excuse me if I'm wrong here. You have two divers with octopuses with plenty of air. Why are you sharing their regs with them? Wait, no octopus! Good Lord,theres a good reason for an octopus and you see it right here!

  • @henerymag
    @henerymag 8 років тому

    This anywhere near Brockville Ont.? I dove on the Eastcliff Hall a few years after she sunk. Quite the current there.

  • @dianebays5484
    @dianebays5484 4 роки тому

    And that, my friends, is why you always have a dive partner.

  • @arctic_ita
    @arctic_ita 6 років тому +7

    Can you post more details about this incident? I'm asking because a HP port complete rupture would empty a 3000psi/200bar 15lt tank in 25 minutes. Looking at the bubble this was merely a (although severe) leak but the HP port wasn't completely exposed, so the air loss, despite the "panic" should have been negligible, or at least you would have been able to complete your dive in safety without sharing. So, what happened exactly? Does it happened with your tank already almost empty? Did you had any other type of issues with the first stage? The explanation in the description doesn't make much sense: a HP leak won't cause any "rapid loss of air" neither if you cut the whole cable and let the air flow out of it.
    (the story would change dramatically for a LP hose fail... in that cause you will end with "seconds" of air).

    • @LogansAdventures
      @LogansAdventures  6 років тому +2

      Line to air gauge wasn’t installed correctly and it became disconnected. Tank was about 1,000 psi when this occurred. Regulator stopped functioning as if the valve was closed. Upon trying to breathe harder as it’s more difficult to breathe when air is low in tank, water started coming in. Emergency accent was not possible in this environment. Not too much of a panic other than the buddy floating away from the line in a dangerous spot. This setup was serviced just before this happened and was brought back to the shop afterwards. Haven’t had an issue since.

    • @arctic_ita
      @arctic_ita 6 років тому +1

      I see, so you had more than one issue apparently? 1000psi left still need 7-8 minutes to empty the tank with a HP porto free flown (and yours was a leak not a complete free flow, that would have produced a lot more bubbles). It will not affect the LP port (making it hard to breath) due to the very low flow of air. And the watering entering in the circuit, that's another issue as well (second stage failure? mouth piece gone?). Still a "strange" and uncommon situation.

    • @m0433
      @m0433 5 років тому +1

      ​@@LogansAdventures "Line to air gauge wasn’t installed correctly and it became disconnected"
      This is one of the reasons why you should not use a console, just use a simple air gauge without gaugeprotection so that you can see the connection between the gauge and your line/hose. Same for all your hoses, remove the protection who sit over the connection so that you can see the status of youre connections every time when you use your diving equipment. Then you can see when it´s time to buy a new hose or in this case if something is not installed correctly. Many Techdiver remove this protection because they don´t wan´t to get a bad surprise with the equipment, and an emergency ascent is not an option for a Techdiver.

    • @coofhair
      @coofhair 3 роки тому

      Khi cổng HP được mở hoàn toàn. Bình còn 1000psi thì có đủ psi để bộ regulator hoạt động không

  • @ros879
    @ros879 4 роки тому

    What happened with his air? Did it leak out?

  • @frankie7348
    @frankie7348 7 років тому

    Brilliant teamwork

  • @mahmoudalsayed1138
    @mahmoudalsayed1138 3 місяці тому

    That’s what scares me the most about scuba diving

  • @robsenz.
    @robsenz. 5 років тому

    Intense vid, what depth were you at approx here?