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ive been playing alot of teams and found out cyno should directly be the first under meta characters or teams i used to think he was buns but my opinion changed
ive been playing alot of teams and found out cyno should directly be the first under meta characters or teams i used to think he was buns but my opinion changed
You don't have to jump-cancel Hu Tao. I never have & I use her more than I use any other character (I have every character built to level 80). For weekly bosses, there's no one better. Jump cancel is just for sweaty fools. Siegewinne also hugely underrated. I use her all the time with Furina. You're thinking like someone who crowns characters & gets their cons & sigs. But if you're on mobile, lag is too high to bother with the cost of Spiral Abyss anyway, so the whole game is just overworld. In which case you can't afford to fully max-level characters or they just cheese all the content. It's all about the sweet spot between too much power for exploration to be fun & not enough for weekly bosses. Sigewinne is good for Furina teams if you need to go full defence. I use her with Hu Tao, Furina and Zhongli when I need to mash my way through. She's the no.1 most comfy healer because she does full team heal on skill (not burst) & she gives you hydro synergy with Furina.
I think if the criteria is "blank if you LIKE them" Lyney should definitely be in the very strong category. Cuz anyone who likes him and would be getting a very strong units
Same here, 3-4 months. I agree. I got him luckily just after Nuev! Zhongli changed my easy of gameplay so much. I had so much hard time clearing weekly bosses, now they are just a joke. And his best weapon is 3 star
Im so glad jello takes exploration into account. Most channels just focus on meta, not caring why certain characters might be useful to certain players
Thank you! I think some CCs underestimate how much of their audience is normies who prefer convenience in overworld as well as strength in endgame content.
@@passwordyeah729 There are many reasons to pull for a character. Gacha games are notoriously time consuming, so characters that save your account time are worth more than meta, imo.
Yes... but he doesn't fully take it into account. Venti being the obvious example. If you aren't max AR and you have a maxed Venti, he is absurd for everything in the overworld. So he's a great early account pull based on the premise of this tier list. It is only in the endgame when you don't use him anymore because he is so godly that they are forced to hard-counter him every abyss.
@@grizzledsentinel4691 not saying he's perfect about it, just that he makes the attempt, which makes him way better than most content creators is offering help and guides.
Let's be honest, the "meta" in this game is a couple of seconds faster than a baseline team clears 36 stars in. As long as you're decently geared, have team synergy and don't facetank everything you're usually fine, meta is for speedruns.
Chasca is criminally underrated, 90% of ennemies can’t reach her while airborne in the overworld, she can fly an entire mountain in seconds with the right slope angle, she does not need off-field application, only wants buffer, she has the best range out of any character, no burst restriction, short skill cooldown, etc… truly worth the pull for overworld
Simply not having to use those bird dragons makes her worth it hahaha. Try to do challenges and the stupid things always decide to plunge attack in the middle
I started playing not too long ago and she was the 1st 5 star for me. I honestly don't even know how people have played this whole game without her, the world is freaking massive. I wouldn't even be 1/3 as far as I am now without her. Also she's OP!
The thing with Furina is that even though she lost a couple teams as her bis, she is still able to be slotted into almost any team and you can make it work. AS FOR YOUR STATEMENT about putting Xilonen ahead of Furina, I think leave Furina in first because hydro is such a versatile element and Furina can buff like hell as well as her skill which gets you that buff also. Furina can be slotted into every team almost while Xilonen cannot since geo can’t work with anemo or dendro. I think it’s super close though but Furina is still the best overall
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m 1. Furina can’t buff transformative reactions but that goes for almost all damage buffing units, moreover Hydro enables the most important reaction. Dendro carries such as Alhaitham, Tighnari and Kinich benefit from her universal buffing. 2. Cinder City holders can only buff elements they can interact with. They’re far more restrictive than Furina’s only requirement of fanfare.
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m Imagine implying a character like Furina isn't salvageable when she is easily top 3 support in the game (probably top 1) and also a great dps, all while having the best element...
Xilonen is better only at the fact that she's quicker at rotation and don't need a healer to function , also furina is losing her value day by day due to concerning powercreep issues
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m Furina can buff Dendro Dmg just like any Pyro/Hydro/Electro Natlan character with Scroll set can (Geo/Cryo/Anemo/Dendro Natlan character cannot). The transformative Dmg of Dendro (Hyperbloom, Burning, Burgeon) is the one which Furina cannot buff, but there's no Natlan character who can do it anyway even with Scroll.
I think what we are forgetting here is that, Furina on top of being a great buffer is also a great sub-dps that could be on par with other sub-dps. Furina is more than just giving buffs though.
Literally this. People see my Furina (102/238 top 1%) and always have the same reaction: "yOu BuIlT hEr FoR DaMaGe?!?" YES. She does so much damage 😭 She's just not just a buff bot like people use Bennett
I feel that aspect is greatly under appreciated by Jello. Furina may not be as strong of a buffer as Xilonen in some teams but the offfield dps damage more than makes up for it. Let alone being the best element in the game is a major bonus. Furina is still without a doubt the best unit in the game.
I think Furina is a bit underrated exploration wise, she is no longer the fastest on water but that 100% uptime is godsent in Inazuma, and her pets actually being able to SOLVE/HINT puzzles is just such an incredible quality of life feature. In Inazuma and Fontaine they shine the most, but I still used them in solving puzzles in Natlan, I found myself using much less guides ever since I got her. Heck even when you randomly roam the world they will attack interactable stuff that you wouldn't have noticed otherwise, giving you free chests or collectibles. (To be fair most puzzles are quite easy so you don't need them as much in newer regions compared to Inazuma, but if you haven't explored that region Furina is just cheat code for 100% that nation)
Yae Miko is also really good for solving puzzles. I just put out her turrents and they randomly hit the puzzle pieces until it's finally the right order and I have the chest! lol
Zhongli deserves that spot for sure. There is no other character you can slap on any team that makes you basically invincible. Phenomenal pick for many regular players and new players.
@@Bifragura Most Freeze and Mono Cryo teams can work well with off-field Ganyu. And currently she's great in Forward Melt as double Cryo with Citlali (both of them combined applies good amount of Cryo, which allows more consistent Forward Melting).
yeah.. i would put her above ayaka... ganyu long ranged CA are also so useful to snipe mobs in overworld from afar... and can take down flying mobs and weak spots of monsters.. dun have as bad energy issues as ayaka as she not as reliant on her burst as ayaka..
@ Currently in Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen. But any freeze team works. Furina obviously helps a lot. Raiden ER artifact set makes her ult uptime and damage good enough for 90% of content. Especially with annoying spread out spawns and hyperarmor enemies that keep jumping around I find myselfe using big aoe that doesn't rely on big hits.
As a Wanderer lover, I understand putting him in Solid SOLELY because of Faruzan. I got lucky, other people won't be. This dude can do crazy damage, most fun in genshin, and amazing exploration. IF you get the C6 Faruzan, get the Hat Lord.
@@Sillysillywithpearls I personally reached C2 Wanderer by the time i got C6 Faruzan. Hopefully you will get her C6 soon, it's a really great constellation!
Thanks for the video! As a Wrio main, it’s been so tough waiting for a rerun but I was lucky to enough to pull C1 Wrio on his release. I know he’s not OP especially compared to other DPS’s but I’m definitely going for C6R1 Wrio when he reruns. Been skipping a lot of banners and trying to hold strong!
Did people really doubt that Navia was super strong from the start? I was a new player when she released and pulled simply on looks but was still amazed at how strong she was and how easy she is to play. I nearly always have her on one side of the abyss, and not only with Xilo. Often times I'm more likely to run her with Albedo to keep Xilo free for the other side and I don't feel like my Navia is lacking without Xilo.
“You shouldn’t get DPS unless you really really like them” thank you for this, I needed to hear it. Been playing for about half a year and I’m trying to make my decisions on who to pull based on test runs and story quests so I can experience and know if I like their play style, rather than listen to the meta.
Genuinely so freeing…and turns out to be true in all situations. Chasing the META will never ultimately satisfy as the META never ends, pulling and playing who you like is ideal
Underselling Kazuha just because we now have a debuffer alternative on Xilonen is insane. Doesn't help that Mihoyo is pushing the nightsoul mechanic but still. Kazuha is no less strong than he's always been, we just have more options.
Small tip as I tend to listen to these kinds of videos while traveling etc. You don’t mention the tier a lot of the times but just say “I’ll put them here”. Maybe something to keep in mind. Your videos are great tho! Always informative
17:56 “She’s often on banners with Faruzan.” What does this mean? Xianyun has run only once so far, and as far as I am aware there are no leaks saying what 4-stars will be running alongside her in her first re-run.
It's unfortunate that Genshin is starting to embrace power creep. They already had the content that would keep us pulling new characters even if the basic power level was the same. Pneuma and Ousia for Fontain content and the Nightsoul energy makes it so that regional characters could be the best for exploration and certain mobs. Adding in reaction specialists also helped with new character value. This game has been more about playing characters you like, but that's a good way to make the content to difficult for many of the more causal players. My new strategy is to never pull on repeat banners. It's better to save for C2 of the 'next meta'. By the time their banner rerun comes around we can skip them and wait for the next mandatory C2 character.
I don't think it has gotten HSR bad yet. The content itself hasn't gotten much harder. Hu Tao still feels like a strong dps for example. Kazuha still is a strong support and still a top tier support. It took until 5.1 to find a support that does similar things to him and even then he is still a better option against an army of enemies that he can suck in with his skill. Also damage amplifying he is about even with Xilonen she just can give buffs easier.
the thing with genshin is that unless you’re doing floor 12 abyss, everything is easily clearable with any unit that is built well. you don’t need the strongest characters so powercreep doesnt impact the game THAT much as long as you aren’t a meta player
I think xianyun should go up a teir. Plunge teams are easy to make and fun to use. More importantly, her overworld exploration is very strong. She has good vertical, horizontal, and diagonal movement. She's excellent for stairs and sloped hills, and she can hop over small obstacles like fences and rocks. Finally, being an anemo healer, she's easy to slot into teams.
This should have been three tierlists instead. Support tierlist, DPS tierlist, and exploration tierlist. For example, placing a support character higher or lower based on their exploration ability just makes the order confusing.
Id probably put xianyun higher just because of the combo of overworld exploration and teamwide healing. The plunge doesn't really matter outside abyss.
Yeah just because Neuvillette and Mualani are really strong that does not make Childe International or Ayato International for that matter suddenly bad teams. But the dude also put freaking Albedo i.e the one 5* i would refund if i could between Lyney (top teir dps) and Yae Miko so that kinda says it all.
@@joeltoomer3332 personally I never use international cause I find Xianling annoying to use so I usually use 1k em Tartaglia as a driver for Nilou Bloom, intergrassional or some Ororon teams lately, a few times I also use him as a driver for hyperbloom
22:10 I think you forgot to mention that her overworld is crazy good like she can run like yelan while also being the best wall climber two in one character while also being a good healer & buffer that's also easy to build
I honestly think this is a greater list, like there are some characters I’d rate differently but not much differently and the way you framed it made a lot of sense. Trying out other people’s accounts and having to use different teams than I typically build for really changed my perspective. I do think Mavuikas support utility is kinda understated here, imo she makes a lot of other DPS units feel even stronger and even better because of her buff and off field damage. Being useful even when she’s not on field and her flexibility puts her in the top tier for me, It’s an under rated part of her kit that I really think puts her far above the other DPS units. Like nuevilette can only be main DPS and he doesn’t do anything off field Arlecchino needs to be on field as much as possible, I think that really sets her apart from other DPS especially on newer accounts. The fact that she can buff or support most people’s favorite DPS makes her super valuable. I love seeing Emilie getting her shine, there have been so many times where she’s just been so useful, local legends, Abyss, IT, she’s offered so much value to my account I’m really glad I pulled her and ignored all the people saying she’s an easy skip. This abyss in particular, she absolutely Melts what would otherwise be super annoying content.
I kinda wish they buffed older characters like klee, albedo, ayato, cyno, I know they want to make new characters more attractive so we spend money on them but at the same time they make older characters more useful so that players who weren't gonna go for them because they're weak might change their minds
In some characters they have through new character supports. Like I tried Hu Tao Furina Yelan Citlali and it is super strong. 240k charge attack. Over 1 million damage per rotation on a C1 Hu Tao.
@jamrodgers121 well yeah but it doesn't really make the older characters more attractive, cu just as they support old characters they support new ones too, so overall it doesn't really do much. for example of you take citlali, she buffs hydro and pyro, but just like she might buff klee and ayato, she buffs arlecchino and neuvi too so ayato and klee's over all worth hasn't really changed. Not to mention that enemies are getting a lot more tankier so even with a slight buff old characters still struggle in a way that new characters don't. Btw ayato was my first ever 5 star when he came out so I don't say this to dunk on old characters I just wish playing them felt more rewarding and I think the only way to really do that is to buff their stats or passives talents
@_Lupical I mean in Klee's case she was never a great unit strength wise. Ayato was fine but I don't think was ever a top dps. Hu Tao however who was great on release still is good dps today. Yes Mav and Arle are better. But Hu Tao still clears content still pretty comfortably in her best teams. The fact there are select 1.x characters that can still be relevant in 5.x is pretty rare in gacha. Again just look at HSR where most 1.x characters are terrible compared to current characters and in HSR case the enemies are scaling with the new characters pretty evenly. Jingliu and DHIL who were the top 2 dps in 1.x they both feel terrible in 3.0.
I started Genshin this month and nothing going to keep me from c6ing Cyno and running him with Ororon, Xingqui and Baizhu. I'm even going to get blasphemous...I intend to run him with Engulfing Lightning! 😅 A man wants what a man wants and I want pretty purple electro particles with a sick lightning naginata while sporting 2 of my other top 5 favorite characters. Will the quickbloom be as good as other options? Heckins no...shoot I don't even know exactly how well the build will activate quickbloom to begin with. But here we are! A man with a dream to play non meta picks and Fashion Impact! Already got sacrificial sword for Xingqui whom I will be getting during Lantern Rights (also got his outfit today). Don't even own the character yet 😂 but, we are dedicated! Pulling for Baizhu (tomorrow?) In Chronicled Wish (where I may get more Xingqui cons 🤞). 6 months of Welkins ready to stack up my future Cyno wishes too. 3 weeks played on this game ready to play it like I've been here for 3 years. All I am saying is I'm going to Shia Lebeouf this. Not letting my dreams just be dreams. I'm going to just do it! Play what you wish to play and have fun with it. That is why we are here, Gamers. 🥰 Thank you for reading my go to bed talk!
I got her by accident while pulling for Dori (I love my c6 Dori, yes I’m still paying Dori my taxes). Chiori definitely made me go back into playing my Itto team and the wooden clicks on her elemental skill gives me dopamine.
The only reason I cleared this imaginarium theatre is because of Ayaka. Her burst combined with Amber’s burst basically wiped out the Mountain King. I had to use Arlecchino a bit earlier than I wanted due to bad rolls on characters. This is why I love the imaginarium theatre. It forces you to be creative and come up with brand new teams that you would never have used under normal circumstances. It’s so much fun trying new and interesting ways of ramming my head against the wall to see what will work!
I started playing some time before Fontaine came out and only got Kazuha last banner. Despite having broken or strong characters like furina/neuvi navia/zhongli (and I also pulled some cons and weapons) back then, the lack of a grouper really hurt when clearing certain content. At least in my case, Kazuha was one of the most account changing characters. The grouping comes in super clutch in floors where you have to protect the ley line mechanism or when farming ley lines with many small enemies in the overworld. Kazuha's grouping ability is way more impactful and important imho than his buffing. And that's why I don't think he quite compares to the other new and strong buffers we've got recently.
I think some of the points are fair and some are just blatantly misleading, like for instance - Raiden, Kokomi, Baizhu and Nilou ARE NOT "very strong" in terms of pull value and are nowhere near close Neuvilette nor Arlecchino. Even in the solid tier they get outclassed by majority of the other units. Kokomi doesn't add anything to the Furina team, it's not that Kokomi is good, it's that the archetype and Furina is just so good, it literally doesn't give you any value over just playing Neuvilette. The release of Xilonen just makes her position even more awkward and unfortunately freeze is no longer that relevant as it use to be, to make things worse, the damage ceiling required for abyss has raised quite a lot compared to Inazuma and even if freeze were to be relevant, she'd still have to compete with either Furina or Mona in that slot. None of Raiden's teams are top tier and her strengths have diminished quite a lot with competition, comfort and flexibility use to be one of her strengths but now we have more options that are more comfortable and flexible to use, not only that, her flexibility in the first place was already questionable, it's not like her flexibility is that good, if that is the case, Ayato should be in the same tier lol. Let's not be biased here, she doesn't belong to a whole entire tier above units like Hu Tao, Yae Miko, Xiao, Childe and so on. Baizhu is also in awkward position because he doesn't offer much, his value diminished with Xilo release and his application is only useful for a very niche particular aspect like with Cyno. Nilou has flexible team and her teams are very cheap to build and strong I can agree but it's content dependant, it's like Venti, it's a hit or miss, and it's not like she's night and day better than the units in solid. Even in solid tier, you are underselling some of the units and overrating some of them like - Chiori is an expensive investment and very niche, Hu Tao is great but also expensive and has high skill ceiling to be played, Wriothesley is really dependant on C1, Wanderer is very dependant on C6 Faruzan and even then weaker than Xiao and Chasca in their premium teams, Albedo is just worse Chiori and for same reasons niche, Yae Miko is underrated for being placed much much lower than Raiden and Clorinde, Ayaka isn't below Wrio because Wrio is more powerful but only because freeze hasn't been relevant. And lastly in what world is Childe below all of them? Even despite the high skill ceiling, his team is the only low cost team that doesn't get gimped by not having certain characters and still has one of the best clear times for speedruns only behind like Mualani and Mavuika and doesn't have ST/AoE restrictions like that of Hu Tao, Nilou, Chasca, Kinich, etc. His national team is still the strongest national variant in the game, try to play Neuvilette, Arle and other dpses in a low cost team and compare it to Childes International and you'll be surprised to see the results, they all require premium teams and investments to outdo Xianling in terms of damage with ofc exceptions like Alhaitham hyperbloom (which would still be weaker in AoE). Even his biggest downsides like flexibility and ease of use nowadays are not that relevant due to release of Xilonen, Emilie, Citlali and Mavuika. Xilonen and Citlali and Emilie has made his national variants easy to use/comfy. Childe and Mavuika dual dps has synergy akin to national and he's no longer reliant on neither Xianling nor Bennett.
as a new player, your videos are pure gold! :D I'm still balancing my play style with what can actually work so lists like this one will help in the future when I get more gems to pull for some of these!
I think that if you already have kazuha, furina has a much better value than xilonen, but if you don't and with lan yan's debut, xilonen becomes the better pick here. Both are as close as must pull we have in genshin, and all 3 make certain areas of the game more confortable and a lot of teams better
Nah bro I have kazuha and I really recommend xilonin for meta puller, there isn't such thing as having to much support, of course I recommend furina two
I think the true value of Xilonen actually comes from her also being a healer, especially for new and F2P players, who are kinda the target audience for this list. With Furina, you kinda need another 5* healer to enable her or to use quite bad 4*s like Charlotte or Barbara. Of course you can always use Bennet but then Furina won't be nearly as good as a buffer as Xilonen is and Xilonen allows you to use Bennet on the other side of the abyss, solving survivability and buffing issues for both sides. Kazuha's grouping is occasionally VERY powerful and useful but I've not had much need for it recently at least. He is still great but I'd never recommend him over Xilonen or Furina.
@@akiinkala9287 xilonin already carrying furina needing a healer 👍, as for kazuha kazuha straight up stronger buffer than this two, so if you want to hit the highest dmg then pull kazuha👍
@@Moontonboss ??? The conversation is Furina OR Xilonen. If you pull for Furina INSTEAD of Xilonen you DON'T HAVE XILONEN lol. Kazuha is actually just kinda worse overall for team damage since Xilonen has significantly longer buff uptimes. Kazuha can be better in some cases if you can double swirl or if his burst is relevant but generally Xilonen is just a better unit.
Its absolutely insane how inflated her value is because of her stans. I firmly believe that people just havent played her in years and just remember her being on ayakas team in 2.X where anything could clear.
14:46 I think you are underselling just how good Ganyu is for new players. As you mentioned she is really good in the overworld. She has basically everything you need except some movement ability. She isn’t burst reliant, has great AOE, has extremely long range, etcetera. She is also amazing in domains. Another big advantage is that she is extremely versatile in team options. Freeze is a noob friendly comp that’s easy to build and can carry you up to floor 12. Melt can deal a lot of damage, even with a shielder, and burn melt is a fun alternative. She also has a lot of great F2P options for these teams such as Barbara or Sucrose for freeze and Bennet, Xiangling, and Layla for melt (Lan Yan should be a great option for her too). I agree that there are a lot of better options for the abyss floor 12 nowadays, and if you want her to reach her max potential without a shielder, she is one of the hardest characters to play in the game. That being said, as someone who got Ganyu as my first limited 5 star back in 3.6, Ganyu is an extremely valuable pull for new players, and made the game WAY easier for me. She should at least be around Wanderer, but I could definitely argue that she deserves to be in the “very strong if you like them” tier. If you got this far, thanks for reading my entire rant.
I think the issue with Ganyu is that a lot of players hate charged attack ranged characters. It comes up really consistently whenever a new character with that playstyle comes out. So she's amazing with that very important caveat.
I think the main downside to Mavuika vs Neuvi discussion is that her teams are much more restrictive in order to fully optimize (that need for Nightsoul/Natlan characters spiel), but her plus is that she DOES work off-field as well, which is great, and her short DPS bursts allows for more dual-DPS team building (I've been using them together tbh). LOL
@Jello are you seriously suggesting pulling for C0R0 Raiden in 2025 as a DPS? And putting her next to Navia, Clorinde, Neuvillette and Arlecchino? The cope is strong with this one
Considering how many of your videos I watch and that I really value your opinions and takes, I thought I ought to drop a comment just to say thanks. and also to please keep it up, i've played genshin since day 1 and still get a lot of value and help from these videos.
I have kazuha so i didn't pulled xilonen cuz i was ( am) saving for arlecchino. Kazuha feels really great to use in the overworld (although i can go afk with furina raiden skill to kill ). Recently i got citalali. Previously i used gaming/Bennet/ furina/ kazuha team . Now when i try to use citlali instead of furina, kazuha feels really awkward and annoying cuz the v.v. effect lasts only 10s and because melt isn't that much consistent as vape , i cant just unga bunga do kazuha burst every time sp the melt doesn't mess up. So now i guess i want xilonen now. Altho kazuha feels really great in the overworld.
I agree, I don’t have Xianyun yet so my current Gaming team is similar to yours and it’s clunky af. If you plan to pull Xilonen for Gaming, then Xianyun is better because she buffs plunge attack dmg. But if you’ve got other teams for Xilonen then definitely go for her too.
Ngl, Xelonen is one of the best exploration unit I have , only Chasca and Mavuika beat her in exploration in my opinion. You should definitely wait for her rerun, you wouldn't be disappointed.
Imo, Xianyun should be at the top of the list if we are leaning casual. Plunge is incredibly f2p friendly. And even if you dont need plunge, you will enjoy a anemo healer who can carry thrilling tales.
That top tier is indeed a must pull tier. unless you like torturing yourself and hate what works best and try to do your own thing and like to suffer and ....enjoy doing all that basically.
I feel like yoimiya is struggle bus honestly. she was already worse than hu tao when she debuted and she has been lagging behind ever since. She also has very serious gameplay issues such as being very vulnerable to interruption and being penalized for dodging. her homing charge attack is pretty good at archery challenges if you dont have tignari ig ????
Raiden is a bit too high ,despite having a 72 190 270 Raiden i have a hard time clearing abyss with any of her teams and most of new units wont need that much of Er anyway so i wouldnt put her up there with the others - hyperbloom kuki is a better choice especially against shield units ,aggravate fishl ,maybe tighnari spread but he rlly doesnt need energy ,electro reactions rlly hold her back a lot even with all the boost overload doesnt rlly do much and you ll need a high con chev ,not to mention months of farming for emblem
She's my only electro DPS and I'm very disappointed with how she was powercrept. And I got her to use w C6 Chevreusse. Had waited since I started the game 2 years ago to get her and then she got nerfed.
My support recommendions ( Not in particular power order) 1. Xilonen/ Kazuha 2. Furina 3. Yelan ( may be ) 4. Zhongli ( if you want comfort) 6. Nahida ( very very very solid for dendro teams)
@@TechTalk0069citlali is borderline yelan power creep since furina pushed yelan out as the generic support in like a Xiao or a hyperbloom team citlali pushed yelan out of the the pyro reaction support with characters like arlecchino mavuika I can't recommend yelan anymore
when you find out the chars you played since 3 years, your beloved faves, are still very strong/solid and it comes from a reputable source other than yourself for once. Yay! (Ei and Miko, and I can't really speak because over the years I c6ed both so I have no clue how the base versions compare today...)
@@dnoyrnoptere3499 XQ doesn't work as well with a lot of the newer 5* carries whereas a lot of them still want Bennett, and he has talked a lot about this. He still things XQ is OP AF, but Bennett is arguably better in the current meta
When talking about new players I’m surprised you didn’t take into account poise. I have a new player friend who didn’t really know what to do and didn’t dodge and would just spam normal attacks, but she used a claymore character, so they were able to stun enemies without really knowing how to dodge or remembering to use all the abilities, so I think that’s something to take into account for the claymore 5 stars.
Now, i understand fuirna is really useful and Xilonen is too, but fuina allows ANY unit to run mh for a free 36% crit rate, ANY its not optimal for some, but Xilonen can't give the ability of an artifact set to people. Maybe that would he less considered after a certain point, as people can get the crit stats they want, but yeah, Furina allows for mh on anyone whilst Xilonen can't do that
@UA-camBOSS-s2m yes, BUT, Furina can enable an artifact set, Xilonen has 0 way of GIVING 36% crit rate at c0 It wouldn't matter if your older player, but it's important to understand for a newer player without many good artifact sets, it's a god send
Absolutely DIABOLICAL take regarding Citlali replacing Furina. I think it's important to remember that a lot of people watching this might be new players or someone who would rather have a hydro character with a very simple kit than all bells and whistles and other fckery that Natlan characters have.
Your argument for postion for Xiao is restrictive, expensive team. But doesn't it apply to mavuika as well? She really needs Natlan premium 5 stars to work well. I don't agree with mavuika position.
The difference is she feels amazing with them and is good (not great) without them. All the while being a great offield Pyro applicator and fairly strong sub-dps/support and a goddamn beast in overworld exploration. So even comparing her to Neuvillette won't be a fair comparison cause one of them can only work onfield.
Well Xiao has an expensive team that doesn’t have high pay off, Xiao by current standard is quite average in his best team whereas Mavuika is flat out the best dps in the game with her best team mates on top of having off field utilities.
C6 faruzan is like 3 5* pulls and her banners do not line up well for xiao as she is glued to wanderer who you dont want if you want to play xiao. Mavuika needs 1 5* vs xiao's 2 5*s + rare 4* c6. Mavuika also reaches the dps ceiling with her team while xiao starts to be able to clear content.
As others have said, Mavuika only needs either Xilonen or Citlali to get her burst up easily. Even then there are 4 star options you can use. And at the end of the day, she just does much more than Xiao damage wise while also having off field supportive capabilities. But most importantly is her exploration abilities far outrank Xiao's. Which would give her even more of an edge.
Mav’s multipliers dog on Xiao. She still pushes out immense dmg in her free 5* team with cinder city kachina, bennet,and kaeya, also she’s a sub dps and a buffer.
Xilonen, Kazuha,Nahida and Furina form a core where you can always 36 star Abyss. Zhongli is occasionally useful. I place Mavuika in top row but only at C1+ (18 seconds tap E skill instead of 12) .Emilie is also amazing but I feel I need her weapon to make her perform better . And I still love my C6 Yae Miko because she's E skill and has the most consistent damage in all situations including Abyss and Overworld. I refuse to pull for Citlali even if I got C6 Mavuika. 1) Weird split scaling where you have to chose between Crit and EM (Shield or DMG) 2) E that needs to be fixed with a Sac weapon (20% chance of missing at R5) 3) Dependent on Bennett for bis "nuke" team which I hate using 4) TTDS is a super cope weapon. 5) Competition for the Scroll set with Mavuika. I'd rather use Emilie+Mavuika+Xilonen + whatever (Raiden Shogun works in this team as Dual DPS overload/burning). Yelan is single target, Burst and ER dependant and needs a character that do Normal Attacks. I always disliked using Xinqiu for all these reasons and even then I think he's better han her.
I think mavuika goes down a little because she has a very restrictive team. You need Natlan 5 stars to unlock her potential (I play her with kachina and it feels terrible). But just like Xiao is lower because he needs a premium team to be good, I think Mavuika is the same (even tho she only really needs one character instead of 3).
Mavuika ororon/kachina benny furina is one of the best teams in the game Same with mavuika ororon chevreuse benny, she can also be an off field dps, dual carry and can support with the scroll set She is also a top3 unit in overworld, piss easy to use and easy to build with codex
Sorry you gotta deal with the Mav mains in this comment section lmao When they say it feels terrible they mean they have to use Kachina, a generally chunkier character and intentionally change the way they play the team to make it work, cuz needing to go out of your way to spam Kachinas thing is awful. They said Kachina, not Ororon so keep that in mind, and it's not like he's wrong wither. Natlan hasn't really brought a solid four star yet like Chevreuse, do all y'all Mavuika havers just get Xilonen or Citlali, or her C1. She isn't a bad character but the means to make her her best compared to three hydro reactions and a simple charge attack can make her lower. TLDR: Mavuika isn't bad but can feel bad to play with the wrong characters, placing her lower for several.
Also Xiao *needing* c6 faruzan and adeptus mommy isn't really true. It's his best team ofc, but it's not like you can't just use another teams with him and he's still going to do pretty nice. Plus, he's the only DPS whose signature weapon is on the standart banner.
I am glad you put Nilou as high as you did. Been saying for ages that she is one of the most valuable characters a new player can get because she allows a new player to turn 3 4*s you get for free and that nobody wants for anything else into a team that can clear at least floor 9(and usually 10) of the abyss fairly early, allowing you to use all your value units elsewhere. Its just such an easy way to turn a single pull into a viable team without relying on units you want for other teams. The thing that continues to boggle my mind is that nobody really seems to recognize the power and fun of Navia plunge. You still get like 300k+ skills but you also get like ~80-100k plunges in rapid succession. Its super fun for abyss floors where enemies don't stay grouped and amazing for the overworld because you're not bound to a circle or a long chain of setup.(Also Xianyun is great for mobility). Unquestionably the most fun team in the game to play. By a huge margin.
Id say the top three are Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen - 3. Mavuika The strongest DPS while also replaces XL in some teams (no joke, my strongest Navia team is the one with Mavuika even surpassing Furina) - 2. Furina Might be the most flexible character in the game - 1. Xilonen A Healer Kazuha with longer buff duration and can buff Geo. Id never expect genshin to release an unit as good as her
I oddly decided I didn’t want to pull Pyro Archon now because the archons seem like the only consistent reruns with the annual archon conga line. If somebody else comes up soon for a rerun and I’m burned out of primos, maybe they never have their own banner again now and go to Chronicled Wish hell forever. I’ve been playing for awhile and never used to consider the possibility of a character being locked in the basement forever when deciding my pulls, but now it’s a become a big concern when deciding whether to pull or wait.
I would personally put hutao in the very strong teir because even though people find her annoying or hard to play she's not as hard to use correctly it's just a little hard to maximise her damage and also another plus point i would like to add is she is the best driver of the double hydro core which is busted team general. She for sure doesn't belong in the same teir as cyno and ayato when her dps potential better than most characters on the Tier above her. Probably a middle ground would be better like a different tier.
@@FlameAkemi because Furina Xianyun Bennett Hu Tao does 200k plunge atks 6 times and 200k burst, on top of Furina off field dmg. and Furina Yelan Bennett Hu Tao does 100k charge atks 5 times without cancel and a bunch of normal atks that trigger more Yelan co ordinated atks, otherwise 7 times+ with jump cancel. I guess you didn't build her well because 40k is too low.
@@FlameAkemi she achieves that with an r5 dragon's bane and c0 furina and c0 xianyun (or c0 yelan).. If I had c6 Furina she would be hitting way way more and c2 xianyun would break the game.. sadly I'm no whale.
@@FlameAkemi I agree Mavuika is stronger and Arlecchino has more qol.. but you are underselling Tao, because I believe her to be the 4th best dps after those two and Neuvillette. I don't know what you are doing wrong but my Tao is clearly doing good dmg with pretty low investment as well. (the numbers I mentioned were against overworld Mountain King, Coppelia, Coppelius etc) maybe you were testing against high resistance enemies? Don't know.
@@FlameAkemi pyro dmg bonus is a huge increase.. marechausseee hunter is great with furina (maybe that's the reason your hu tao is weaker, because you can't use that and also don't get furina's huge dmg buff).. also 4 pc gilded isn't bad, nor is 2 pc 2 pc pyro or em.. with good stats.. if you are using bennett go for more em and crit rather than hp.. these are my only suggestions.. I guess without furina or xianyun she isn't as great.. she used to be great without them during her time because the enemies weren't that strong and barely any other character was that good, now you need her best team mates to keep up with the best dps like Neuv or Mavuika or Arle (yeah they also need good team mates to perform well, but they do way more in their best teams).
@@FlameAkemi you probably didn't swrl pyro in this team. It's already hard to pull off plusw yelan cannot apply enough hydro at c0 if you try to spam charge attacks.My hutao with r2 dragons bane used to do 70/80k charge attack so you probably weren't even vaporising. But you are so wrong about her damage. My current hutao team is hutao yelan furina xilonen and she comfortably does 110/120k charge attacks ( c1 r1 hutao everyone else at c0, but c1 hutao doesn't even increase her damage directly). Also i never said she was better than arlecchino or mavuika i was just saying she is better than most of the dps in the upper tier. ( I just want to add another plus point for her, since her best team is 2 hydro one pyro and one geo she will comfortably beat any abyss even if it has restrictions ( unlike most hyper carries) for example take the current one where my friends arlecchino was struggling because this abyss is so restricted with pyro my hutao cleared it super easily, may sound like glazing but it's true.
Brother i just completed your video and it is much much more helpful then i thik it would be, i just started playing genshin impact i think 4to5 mounths this tire list helped me a lot for my future pulls and your guid videos are next level for an f2p player like me i play in asia server got few dps raiden and Hydro dragon and this video helped me a lot Thank you
He may deal lower Dmg and has less AoE than Neuvillette, but in some situations i enjoy playing Wanderer more, like in most combat events (specifically multi-wave with single-target or closely-grouped opponents). Autotargetting with normal attack spam while just floating at same spot in the air is just nice.
@@UA-camisrunbybloodbelchin-p9c aren't you the one bad at the game if your best DPS is a character who is not the strongest? Lol, you can't utilize the stronger characters at their best potential.
20:33 I think you should have at least mentioned that arlecchino can't be healed by other charachters which I think is a mutch bigger deal for begginer/chasual players than you would assume
I’ve always been the guy who pulls for meta, but ever since I was able to clear the abyss with ease, I changed my perspective to play with whoever I like more and enjoy the game and I believe having fun is more important and not getting burned out by it, when I first got into Genshin, I remember players abusing Venti’s burst and obliterating the abyss and it was satisfying to watch, sadly I never got the chance to pull for him but now I’m waiting for his rerun!! Also Aliss was like the only speedrunner using Venti at the time alongside Kazuha and it was a pleasure to watch. Pull for whoever you want and if it’s strong, even better!! (perfect example: Mavuika)
Kokomi is so polyvalent she deserve the S rank =3 Driver for taser and monohydro, bloom partner for Nilou, solid ToTM + TTDS healer, decent hydro AoE application... She is a solid pick for sure.
She’s a jack of all trade master of none. As a fairly invested player who owns Kokomi I can say that I barely ever use her because she’s barely ever the optimal character. It’s just the reality of things, it’s better to be really good at a specific thing than be decent at a bunch of things, especially the more that the game progresses.
Completely disagree on alhaitham he is one of the most f2p friendly character saying he is over rated when he doesn't need furina and bennet and kazuha and xilonen is just not right. Given me best consistent clears more than any one. Playing alhaitham- quickbooom and playing hyperbloom with other characters is completely different.
Very good tierlist i agree with it only 1 objection, lyney should be in very strong tier his damage potential is really good i know that jello knows that aswell
he really is very strong but jello said that he was making the video for generalists, and unfortunately while lyney does amazing damage his best supports (xiangling, bennett) are highly contested and his charged atk playstyle isn’t generally liked
@hal4683 thats why it says if you like them in the tier list, im just saying his potential and for generalists his play style is quite basic once you learn how to play him although i agree that people do dislike him and that probably causes influence
He plays on controller so he can't aim, makes him super bias against charge shot users. Keyboard and mouse Lyney is super easy in the overworld and high damage from range helps a lot in some areas. In abyss his teams are easy or hard mode based on mechanics and whether or not you can take the dps hit to have a shielder.
@@Bringolfyou can, in fact, aim with a bow on controller. While inferior to kbm, it doesn’t mean it won’t work at all. And this list was not the power ranking but 1. Value 2. ease of use with low investment, and only then power.
even with a 2x 18% attack set. as long you have xiaos best team set up you can easily hit 120k plunges so he is way stronger than one may think. just extremely expensive.
I play him with c6 Bennett Furina Xianyun and he hits 150k+ pyro vapes consistently 8 times. I have a c4 Faruzan and his anemo dmg is around 100k if you replace Bennett with this Faruzan.. but I have a hard time with er requirements.. c6 Faruzan helps a lot with er issues and maybe then I'll play him in his normal anemo team.
Both are not necessary if you prefer high value pull for you account, Better save your Primogem for incoming new character. In case you want pull for now go with Citlali if 4-Star rate up character are no value for you but if you considering 4-Star rate up character value, You better pull for C1 Arlecchino so you could get nice value character along the way.
If your gonna take the time to learn how to melt properly in a Citlali team then Citlali is stronger and will produce very high damage numbers. If you don't want to think and just want to unga bunga c1 would be the better choice
F2P newish player (about 1 year) got to 90 with the starters (hydro traveler, kaeya (ice), Lisa (lightning), amber (fire) and Noelle (earth) Recently got pyro archon and xilonem? (Roller blade cat girl) and got a random tighnari and diluc as my 5 stars. Got plenty of Bennetts pulling the archon. So got a nice natlan team forming. Leveling my electric sasuke clone now.
Citlali def much more useful than nahida imo the natlan set+res down makes her crazy strong, way more teams open up with citlali than nahida I would even put her above Kazuha honestly Kazuha is just too versatile but citlali being both a buffer and a sustain at the same time makes her value crazy high
@@srir.5282 wdym? Nahida is the best dendro character lmao And Zhongli gives universal res shred and 35% em dmg bonus+plus more tanky while citlali gives res shred to hydro and pyro only and 40% em dmg bonus
Nice guide Jello! Maybe you can put some picture of sample workable teams for each character just to give a quick guide for new player? Just a suggestion.
Zongli is a no go nowadays thanks to Citlali and Lan Yan, both provide good enough shields while buffing the team dps more. There is just no content where u are reliant on a 30k hp shield instead of 10k.
Zhongli buffs dmg more than Lanyan. ZL has 20% res shred and 35% dmg bonus with archaic petra artifact set. The high hp shield makes zhongli comfier than other shielders for any main dps who are on the field for a long time and might take several hits throughout their dmg window.
@florlscnt replaceable yes but that’s not what this list is for. This isn’t a power tier list video. It is ease of use and account value for new players. There is no better character for ease of use than zhongli, who removes the need to dodge altogether in the game.
@florlscnt you would be correct but this isnt meta tierlist. Zhongli is still very much a super good pull especially for mobile players/high ping players lol. The stats dont lie. He has consistently been most used characters in abyss too despite him being a dps loss
@@trash0175 also, he is not a dps loss for ppl who need him. Dodging and getting knocked back are dps losses for every single character. When there are difficult enemies in the abyss, zhongli’s usage rates always go up no matter how many alternatives we get
Maybe flexible in the sense that she can apply hydro off-field, even if you're not using her for a bloom team. I've never heard of anyone doing that though...
Most DPSes have like one maybe two best in slot teams and need specific units to do great dmg. Nilou just needs ANY dendro/hydro teammates. You can literally slot in just Barbra, Collei and Yaoyao and she still will do amazingly (funnily enough Collei is even her best teammates for speedrunning so lol).
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ive been playing alot of teams and found out cyno should directly be the first under meta characters or teams i used to think he was buns but my opinion changed
ive been playing alot of teams and found out cyno should directly be the first under meta characters or teams i used to think he was buns but my opinion changed
You don't have to jump-cancel Hu Tao. I never have & I use her more than I use any other character (I have every character built to level 80).
For weekly bosses, there's no one better.
Jump cancel is just for sweaty fools.
Siegewinne also hugely underrated. I use her all the time with Furina. You're thinking like someone who crowns characters & gets their cons & sigs. But if you're on mobile, lag is too high to bother with the cost of Spiral Abyss anyway, so the whole game is just overworld. In which case you can't afford to fully max-level characters or they just cheese all the content. It's all about the sweet spot between too much power for exploration to be fun & not enough for weekly bosses. Sigewinne is good for Furina teams if you need to go full defence. I use her with Hu Tao, Furina and Zhongli when I need to mash my way through. She's the no.1 most comfy healer because she does full team heal on skill (not burst) & she gives you hydro synergy with Furina.
I think if the criteria is "blank if you LIKE them" Lyney should definitely be in the very strong category. Cuz anyone who likes him and would be getting a very strong units
Will i watch the full video yes, will i still pull pretty boys yes.
10/10
Same but I really do be pulling only tall women
i love men
Kaveh pfp checks out. As someone who started the game for our blonde broke architect, same.
W mindset
I am a beginner. Play for around 65 days. I got Zhongli! I LOVE THIS MAN. Everything became so much easier.
Same here, 3-4 months. I agree. I got him luckily just after Nuev! Zhongli changed my easy of gameplay so much. I had so much hard time clearing weekly bosses, now they are just a joke. And his best weapon is 3 star
Zhongli breaks all the rocks.
That is very true. He was my very first limited 5 star character and i have not found the game hard from the beginning 😂😂😂
your life will be easier, I got Zhongli around 1.3 in year 2021 with real money and still use him !
Chasca would be your 2nd character that would make the game easier after him.
Im so glad jello takes exploration into account. Most channels just focus on meta, not caring why certain characters might be useful to certain players
Thank you! I think some CCs underestimate how much of their audience is normies who prefer convenience in overworld as well as strength in endgame content.
@@passwordyeah729 There are many reasons to pull for a character. Gacha games are notoriously time consuming, so characters that save your account time are worth more than meta, imo.
Yes... but he doesn't fully take it into account. Venti being the obvious example. If you aren't max AR and you have a maxed Venti, he is absurd for everything in the overworld. So he's a great early account pull based on the premise of this tier list. It is only in the endgame when you don't use him anymore because he is so godly that they are forced to hard-counter him every abyss.
@@grizzledsentinel4691 not saying he's perfect about it, just that he makes the attempt, which makes him way better than most content creators is offering help and guides.
Let's be honest, the "meta" in this game is a couple of seconds faster than a baseline team clears 36 stars in. As long as you're decently geared, have team synergy and don't facetank everything you're usually fine, meta is for speedruns.
Chasca is criminally underrated, 90% of ennemies can’t reach her while airborne in the overworld, she can fly an entire mountain in seconds with the right slope angle, she does not need off-field application, only wants buffer, she has the best range out of any character, no burst restriction, short skill cooldown, etc… truly worth the pull for overworld
Thats right… and Citlali make her more great 😂😊
FRRRR
Basically you buying an attack helicopter and blast everything below. "Chasca lift" is also amazing if you catch the right angle.
Simply not having to use those bird dragons makes her worth it hahaha. Try to do challenges and the stupid things always decide to plunge attack in the middle
I started playing not too long ago and she was the 1st 5 star for me. I honestly don't even know how people have played this whole game without her, the world is freaking massive. I wouldn't even be 1/3 as far as I am now without her. Also she's OP!
The thing with Furina is that even though she lost a couple teams as her bis, she is still able to be slotted into almost any team and you can make it work.
AS FOR YOUR STATEMENT about putting Xilonen ahead of Furina, I think leave Furina in first because hydro is such a versatile element and Furina can buff like hell as well as her skill which gets you that buff also. Furina can be slotted into every team almost while Xilonen cannot since geo can’t work with anemo or dendro. I think it’s super close though but Furina is still the best overall
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m wrong
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1. Furina can’t buff transformative reactions but that goes for almost all damage buffing units, moreover Hydro enables the most important reaction. Dendro carries such as Alhaitham, Tighnari and Kinich benefit from her universal buffing.
2. Cinder City holders can only buff elements they can interact with. They’re far more restrictive than Furina’s only requirement of fanfare.
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m Imagine implying a character like Furina isn't salvageable when she is easily top 3 support in the game (probably top 1) and also a great dps, all while having the best element...
Xilonen is better only at the fact that she's quicker at rotation and don't need a healer to function , also furina is losing her value day by day due to concerning powercreep issues
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m Furina can buff Dendro Dmg just like any Pyro/Hydro/Electro Natlan character with Scroll set can (Geo/Cryo/Anemo/Dendro Natlan character cannot). The transformative Dmg of Dendro (Hyperbloom, Burning, Burgeon) is the one which Furina cannot buff, but there's no Natlan character who can do it anyway even with Scroll.
I think what we are forgetting here is that, Furina on top of being a great buffer is also a great sub-dps that could be on par with other sub-dps. Furina is more than just giving buffs though.
Literally this. People see my Furina (102/238 top 1%) and always have the same reaction: "yOu BuIlT hEr FoR DaMaGe?!?"
YES. She does so much damage 😭 She's just not just a buff bot like people use Bennett
I feel that aspect is greatly under appreciated by Jello. Furina may not be as strong of a buffer as Xilonen in some teams but the offfield dps damage more than makes up for it. Let alone being the best element in the game is a major bonus. Furina is still without a doubt the best unit in the game.
Xilo gives such a big buff you wont ever miss furina.
She makes every team comfier
I think Furina is a bit underrated exploration wise, she is no longer the fastest on water but that 100% uptime is godsent in Inazuma, and her pets actually being able to SOLVE/HINT puzzles is just such an incredible quality of life feature.
In Inazuma and Fontaine they shine the most, but I still used them in solving puzzles in Natlan, I found myself using much less guides ever since I got her.
Heck even when you randomly roam the world they will attack interactable stuff that you wouldn't have noticed otherwise, giving you free chests or collectibles.
(To be fair most puzzles are quite easy so you don't need them as much in newer regions compared to Inazuma, but if you haven't explored that region Furina is just cheat code for 100% that nation)
this
Yae Miko is also really good for solving puzzles. I just put out her turrents and they randomly hit the puzzle pieces until it's finally the right order and I have the chest! lol
Not gonna lie I've had her for...however long she's existed, and I still forget that she walks on water.
Zhongli deserves that spot for sure. There is no other character you can slap on any team that makes you basically invincible. Phenomenal pick for many regular players and new players.
Off field Ganyu is so underrated. Super comfy and consistent.
What teams do you use her in?
@@Bifragura Most Freeze and Mono Cryo teams can work well with off-field Ganyu. And currently she's great in Forward Melt as double Cryo with Citlali (both of them combined applies good amount of Cryo, which allows more consistent Forward Melting).
Off field nilou with Mualani r1 is also insane (hydro resonance, 150 em buff, and no hydro application means she can work perfectly with mavuika).
yeah.. i would put her above ayaka... ganyu long ranged CA are also so useful to snipe mobs in overworld from afar... and can take down flying mobs and weak spots of monsters.. dun have as bad energy issues as ayaka as she not as reliant on her burst as ayaka..
@ Currently in Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen. But any freeze team works. Furina obviously helps a lot. Raiden ER artifact set makes her ult uptime and damage good enough for 90% of content. Especially with annoying spread out spawns and hyperarmor enemies that keep jumping around I find myselfe using big aoe that doesn't rely on big hits.
As a Wanderer lover, I understand putting him in Solid SOLELY because of Faruzan. I got lucky, other people won't be. This dude can do crazy damage, most fun in genshin, and amazing exploration. IF you get the C6 Faruzan, get the Hat Lord.
Been hoping for C6 Fafuzan for 7 Months. I have her up to C3 (all standard banner pulls)
@ Praying for you brother! Getting that far from standard is NICE
@@Sillysillywithpearlsi have faruzan c2 all from standard as well lol
@@Sillysillywithpearls I personally reached C2 Wanderer by the time i got C6 Faruzan. Hopefully you will get her C6 soon, it's a really great constellation!
@@Sillysillywithpearlssame here 😢
Thanks for the video! As a Wrio main, it’s been so tough waiting for a rerun but I was lucky to enough to pull C1 Wrio on his release. I know he’s not OP especially compared to other DPS’s but I’m definitely going for C6R1 Wrio when he reruns. Been skipping a lot of banners and trying to hold strong!
me too! Currently im at C0r1 and still loyal to him. He's so fun to play. Rn I have over 500pulls for his C6 too :D Good luck with your pulls!
That’s awesome that you have been able to resist pulling so long for Wrio! Hope you win your 50/50s and snag a couple early ones!
Fuck it, i am still going for shenhe lol
Real lmao
I'm getting my c3r2 Shenhe to C6. I've been waiting almost 2 years.
I still plan to C6 Eula when she reruns again in 2029
@@Squashua2727 same I don't have her tho and I'm F2p so I can only get C2 r2 at most
Why people like her? I have her but don’t even use her
Did people really doubt that Navia was super strong from the start? I was a new player when she released and pulled simply on looks but was still amazed at how strong she was and how easy she is to play. I nearly always have her on one side of the abyss, and not only with Xilo. Often times I'm more likely to run her with Albedo to keep Xilo free for the other side and I don't feel like my Navia is lacking without Xilo.
I never pulled her, but considering her weak seems crazy. Probably just bias against Geo, she had been the first Geo unit in a while.
“You shouldn’t get DPS unless you really really like them” thank you for this, I needed to hear it. Been playing for about half a year and I’m trying to make my decisions on who to pull based on test runs and story quests so I can experience and know if I like their play style, rather than listen to the meta.
Genuinely so freeing…and turns out to be true in all situations.
Chasing the META will never ultimately satisfy as the META never ends, pulling and playing who you like is ideal
C6 R5ing my Raiden after skipping Clorinde again. Next question.
Finally, a man of culture
Based
True 😂
hardcore
Based but...fair enough.
Underselling Kazuha just because we now have a debuffer alternative on Xilonen is insane. Doesn't help that Mihoyo is pushing the nightsoul mechanic but still. Kazuha is no less strong than he's always been, we just have more options.
Overselling him, I never got the hype
My brother in Christ, he literally put Kazuha in the top tier
@@aishaali9771 "My brother in christ", unmute the video
But , isn't that how things work !? If u have 2 similar things it lowers the value of both since people will choose one or the other
Since when was putting a character in top tier, "underselling?"
Small tip as I tend to listen to these kinds of videos while traveling etc. You don’t mention the tier a lot of the times but just say “I’ll put them here”. Maybe something to keep in mind. Your videos are great tho! Always informative
I'm pulling wriothesley and no one can stop me 😈
Hoyo can by not releasing his banner😂
me too! X)
As a wise man once said go for the cake and so shall you good luck
@@justsomedudeonyt7164 For real ! 😂
same hehehe
xianyun is so underrateddd she enables a whole ass playstyle + she heals + holds vv + insane exploration
I'm getting her C1 and weapon as soon as she reruns. She's never left my main explo team ever since I got her, bbg deserves it.
I hate her design its too bad her character seems cool but her fit and haircut and face and everything is just so ugly
@@OhWhutDaHell true but kit is meta
17:56 “She’s often on banners with Faruzan.” What does this mean? Xianyun has run only once so far, and as far as I am aware there are no leaks saying what 4-stars will be running alongside her in her first re-run.
ikr he sounded so stupid saying that😭
Then bro said “and we get jean for free” immediately after LIKE WHAAAT?
@@xjay633Anniversary reward
Yep, kinda stupid
@@xjay633 Every year you get a free standard 5*. Free jean if you want her, but if you don't then you can't complain about not getting her for free
It's unfortunate that Genshin is starting to embrace power creep. They already had the content that would keep us pulling new characters even if the basic power level was the same. Pneuma and Ousia for Fontain content and the Nightsoul energy makes it so that regional characters could be the best for exploration and certain mobs. Adding in reaction specialists also helped with new character value.
This game has been more about playing characters you like, but that's a good way to make the content to difficult for many of the more causal players.
My new strategy is to never pull on repeat banners. It's better to save for C2 of the 'next meta'. By the time their banner rerun comes around we can skip them and wait for the next mandatory C2 character.
I don't think it has gotten HSR bad yet. The content itself hasn't gotten much harder. Hu Tao still feels like a strong dps for example. Kazuha still is a strong support and still a top tier support. It took until 5.1 to find a support that does similar things to him and even then he is still a better option against an army of enemies that he can suck in with his skill. Also damage amplifying he is about even with Xilonen she just can give buffs easier.
that’s overreacting.. i can clear with Ayato without his signature, you DEFINITELY don’t ‘need’ any C2
the thing with genshin is that unless you’re doing floor 12 abyss, everything is easily clearable with any unit that is built well. you don’t need the strongest characters so powercreep doesnt impact the game THAT much as long as you aren’t a meta player
@ducktk even in 12th floor of abyss , all you'd need is C0 of that so called new meta unit
You can't expect the game to have the same meta for 4+ years. Power creep was always inevitable
Neuvilette is a must for newbies, cuz he got the damage and the sustain. Plus his BIS weapon for F2P is a craftable one.
No sh** 😂😂 , best f2p weapon is a craft able one ?
@@lastbruh62 He didn't word it properly. I think he meant to say that Prototype Amber is great for him while being craftable so it's easy to get it
For some reason, this video is not on your list of videos. I only accessed it through Tacter.
Tacter perk!
i accessed it through my recommended videos :D
@KakaoPfoteMspme too
I think xianyun should go up a teir. Plunge teams are easy to make and fun to use. More importantly, her overworld exploration is very strong. She has good vertical, horizontal, and diagonal movement. She's excellent for stairs and sloped hills, and she can hop over small obstacles like fences and rocks. Finally, being an anemo healer, she's easy to slot into teams.
This should have been three tierlists instead. Support tierlist, DPS tierlist, and exploration tierlist. For example, placing a support character higher or lower based on their exploration ability just makes the order confusing.
absolutely
Even the tiers are confusing af, like go s to d like every human being
You are right, if a person already have a good exploration unit and in needs of good dps, it can be a bit confusing.
Id probably put xianyun higher just because of the combo of overworld exploration and teamwide healing. The plunge doesn't really matter outside abyss.
Holy mother of bias… Childe below Klee and Yoimiya 😂
yes childe flexibility should’ve pushed him up
@@artsyartssketches1352Childe literally only has one single team what flexibility lol
Yeah just because Neuvillette and Mualani are really strong that does not make Childe International or Ayato International for that matter suddenly bad teams. But the dude also put freaking Albedo i.e the one 5* i would refund if i could between Lyney (top teir dps) and Yae Miko so that kinda says it all.
@@joeltoomer3332 He still have a lot of teams where you can use him and he will outperform Yoimiya without any doubt.
@@joeltoomer3332 personally I never use international cause I find Xianling annoying to use so I usually use 1k em Tartaglia as a driver for Nilou Bloom, intergrassional or some Ororon teams lately, a few times I also use him as a driver for hyperbloom
22:10 I think you forgot to mention that her overworld is crazy good like she can run like yelan while also being the best wall climber two in one character while also being a good healer & buffer that's also easy to build
I honestly think this is a greater list, like there are some characters I’d rate differently but not much differently and the way you framed it made a lot of sense. Trying out other people’s accounts and having to use different teams than I typically build for really changed my perspective.
I do think Mavuikas support utility is kinda understated here, imo she makes a lot of other DPS units feel even stronger and even better because of her buff and off field damage. Being useful even when she’s not on field and her flexibility puts her in the top tier for me, It’s an under rated part of her kit that I really think puts her far above the other DPS units. Like nuevilette can only be main DPS and he doesn’t do anything off field Arlecchino needs to be on field as much as possible, I think that really sets her apart from other DPS especially on newer accounts. The fact that she can buff or support most people’s favorite DPS makes her super valuable.
I love seeing Emilie getting her shine, there have been so many times where she’s just been so useful, local legends, Abyss, IT, she’s offered so much value to my account I’m really glad I pulled her and ignored all the people saying she’s an easy skip. This abyss in particular, she absolutely Melts what would otherwise be super annoying content.
Flexible is not a descriptor I've heard in regards to Nlou before
As a Nicki Minaj fan, everyone in the comment section will win their 50:50s this 2025🦄
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I kinda wish they buffed older characters like klee, albedo, ayato, cyno, I know they want to make new characters more attractive so we spend money on them but at the same time they make older characters more useful so that players who weren't gonna go for them because they're weak might change their minds
In some characters they have through new character supports. Like I tried Hu Tao Furina Yelan Citlali and it is super strong. 240k charge attack. Over 1 million damage per rotation on a C1 Hu Tao.
@jamrodgers121 well yeah but it doesn't really make the older characters more attractive, cu just as they support old characters they support new ones too, so overall it doesn't really do much. for example of you take citlali, she buffs hydro and pyro, but just like she might buff klee and ayato, she buffs arlecchino and neuvi too so ayato and klee's over all worth hasn't really changed. Not to mention that enemies are getting a lot more tankier so even with a slight buff old characters still struggle in a way that new characters don't. Btw ayato was my first ever 5 star when he came out so I don't say this to dunk on old characters I just wish playing them felt more rewarding and I think the only way to really do that is to buff their stats or passives talents
@_Lupical I mean in Klee's case she was never a great unit strength wise. Ayato was fine but I don't think was ever a top dps. Hu Tao however who was great on release still is good dps today. Yes Mav and Arle are better. But Hu Tao still clears content still pretty comfortably in her best teams. The fact there are select 1.x characters that can still be relevant in 5.x is pretty rare in gacha. Again just look at HSR where most 1.x characters are terrible compared to current characters and in HSR case the enemies are scaling with the new characters pretty evenly. Jingliu and DHIL who were the top 2 dps in 1.x they both feel terrible in 3.0.
I started Genshin this month and nothing going to keep me from c6ing Cyno and running him with Ororon, Xingqui and Baizhu.
I'm even going to get blasphemous...I intend to run him with Engulfing Lightning! 😅 A man wants what a man wants and I want pretty purple electro particles with a sick lightning naginata while sporting 2 of my other top 5 favorite characters.
Will the quickbloom be as good as other options? Heckins no...shoot I don't even know exactly how well the build will activate quickbloom to begin with. But here we are! A man with a dream to play non meta picks and Fashion Impact!
Already got sacrificial sword for Xingqui whom I will be getting during Lantern Rights (also got his outfit today). Don't even own the character yet 😂 but, we are dedicated!
Pulling for Baizhu (tomorrow?) In Chronicled Wish (where I may get more Xingqui cons 🤞).
6 months of Welkins ready to stack up my future Cyno wishes too. 3 weeks played on this game ready to play it like I've been here for 3 years.
All I am saying is I'm going to Shia Lebeouf this. Not letting my dreams just be dreams. I'm going to just do it! Play what you wish to play and have fun with it. That is why we are here, Gamers. 🥰
Thank you for reading my go to bed talk!
I never knew chiori was solid I just pulled her because I like her design😭
C1 or higher Chiori with Xilonen is a super strong core
I got her by accident while pulling for Dori (I love my c6 Dori, yes I’m still paying Dori my taxes). Chiori definitely made me go back into playing my Itto team and the wooden clicks on her elemental skill gives me dopamine.
The only reason I cleared this imaginarium theatre is because of Ayaka. Her burst combined with Amber’s burst basically wiped out the Mountain King. I had to use Arlecchino a bit earlier than I wanted due to bad rolls on characters.
This is why I love the imaginarium theatre. It forces you to be creative and come up with brand new teams that you would never have used under normal circumstances. It’s so much fun trying new and interesting ways of ramming my head against the wall to see what will work!
I started playing some time before Fontaine came out and only got Kazuha last banner. Despite having broken or strong characters like furina/neuvi navia/zhongli (and I also pulled some cons and weapons) back then, the lack of a grouper really hurt when clearing certain content. At least in my case, Kazuha was one of the most account changing characters.
The grouping comes in super clutch in floors where you have to protect the ley line mechanism or when farming ley lines with many small enemies in the overworld. Kazuha's grouping ability is way more impactful and important imho than his buffing. And that's why I don't think he quite compares to the other new and strong buffers we've got recently.
Getting my citlali to C2 has been the best decision I've made in genshin.
I always said C2 Citlali feels like a C6 limited support. C2 Mav feels like a C6 limited dps.
@@jamrodgers121 I just c2 Mauv today, and I have to completely agree.
I think some of the points are fair and some are just blatantly misleading, like for instance - Raiden, Kokomi, Baizhu and Nilou ARE NOT "very strong" in terms of pull value and are nowhere near close Neuvilette nor Arlecchino. Even in the solid tier they get outclassed by majority of the other units. Kokomi doesn't add anything to the Furina team, it's not that Kokomi is good, it's that the archetype and Furina is just so good, it literally doesn't give you any value over just playing Neuvilette. The release of Xilonen just makes her position even more awkward and unfortunately freeze is no longer that relevant as it use to be, to make things worse, the damage ceiling required for abyss has raised quite a lot compared to Inazuma and even if freeze were to be relevant, she'd still have to compete with either Furina or Mona in that slot.
None of Raiden's teams are top tier and her strengths have diminished quite a lot with competition, comfort and flexibility use to be one of her strengths but now we have more options that are more comfortable and flexible to use, not only that, her flexibility in the first place was already questionable, it's not like her flexibility is that good, if that is the case, Ayato should be in the same tier lol. Let's not be biased here, she doesn't belong to a whole entire tier above units like Hu Tao, Yae Miko, Xiao, Childe and so on.
Baizhu is also in awkward position because he doesn't offer much, his value diminished with Xilo release and his application is only useful for a very niche particular aspect like with Cyno. Nilou has flexible team and her teams are very cheap to build and strong I can agree but it's content dependant, it's like Venti, it's a hit or miss, and it's not like she's night and day better than the units in solid.
Even in solid tier, you are underselling some of the units and overrating some of them like - Chiori is an expensive investment and very niche, Hu Tao is great but also expensive and has high skill ceiling to be played, Wriothesley is really dependant on C1, Wanderer is very dependant on C6 Faruzan and even then weaker than Xiao and Chasca in their premium teams, Albedo is just worse Chiori and for same reasons niche, Yae Miko is underrated for being placed much much lower than Raiden and Clorinde, Ayaka isn't below Wrio because Wrio is more powerful but only because freeze hasn't been relevant.
And lastly in what world is Childe below all of them? Even despite the high skill ceiling, his team is the only low cost team that doesn't get gimped by not having certain characters and still has one of the best clear times for speedruns only behind like Mualani and Mavuika and doesn't have ST/AoE restrictions like that of Hu Tao, Nilou, Chasca, Kinich, etc. His national team is still the strongest national variant in the game, try to play Neuvilette, Arle and other dpses in a low cost team and compare it to Childes International and you'll be surprised to see the results, they all require premium teams and investments to outdo Xianling in terms of damage with ofc exceptions like Alhaitham hyperbloom (which would still be weaker in AoE). Even his biggest downsides like flexibility and ease of use nowadays are not that relevant due to release of Xilonen, Emilie, Citlali and Mavuika. Xilonen and Citlali and Emilie has made his national variants easy to use/comfy. Childe and Mavuika dual dps has synergy akin to national and he's no longer reliant on neither Xianling nor Bennett.
I saw the title: "who to pull in 2025 in genshin impact" and the first sentence was literally "almost nothing"
Can you also make a tier list for 5-star weapons, like which weapons are worth getting and are very versatile and which ones to avoid at all cost.
I came back to the game after like 4 years this really helps a lot.
keep it up!
Sending all my pulls into Shenhe next banner. Finally its time bro I've been waiting
as a new player, your videos are pure gold! :D
I'm still balancing my play style with what can actually work so lists like this one will help in the future when I get more gems to pull for some of these!
I think that if you already have kazuha, furina has a much better value than xilonen, but if you don't and with lan yan's debut, xilonen becomes the better pick here. Both are as close as must pull we have in genshin, and all 3 make certain areas of the game more confortable and a lot of teams better
Nah bro I have kazuha and I really recommend xilonin for meta puller, there isn't such thing as having to much support, of course I recommend furina two
I think the true value of Xilonen actually comes from her also being a healer, especially for new and F2P players, who are kinda the target audience for this list. With Furina, you kinda need another 5* healer to enable her or to use quite bad 4*s like Charlotte or Barbara. Of course you can always use Bennet but then Furina won't be nearly as good as a buffer as Xilonen is and Xilonen allows you to use Bennet on the other side of the abyss, solving survivability and buffing issues for both sides.
Kazuha's grouping is occasionally VERY powerful and useful but I've not had much need for it recently at least. He is still great but I'd never recommend him over Xilonen or Furina.
@@akiinkala9287 xilonin already carrying furina needing a healer 👍, as for kazuha kazuha straight up stronger buffer than this two, so if you want to hit the highest dmg then pull kazuha👍
@@Moontonboss ???
The conversation is Furina OR Xilonen. If you pull for Furina INSTEAD of Xilonen you DON'T HAVE XILONEN lol.
Kazuha is actually just kinda worse overall for team damage since Xilonen has significantly longer buff uptimes. Kazuha can be better in some cases if you can double swirl or if his burst is relevant but generally Xilonen is just a better unit.
@@akiinkala9287plus she can buff geo characters
wasnt expecting kokomi to be so high
Its absolutely insane how inflated her value is because of her stans. I firmly believe that people just havent played her in years and just remember her being on ayakas team in 2.X where anything could clear.
14:46 I think you are underselling just how good Ganyu is for new players. As you mentioned she is really good in the overworld. She has basically everything you need except some movement ability. She isn’t burst reliant, has great AOE, has extremely long range, etcetera. She is also amazing in domains. Another big advantage is that she is extremely versatile in team options. Freeze is a noob friendly comp that’s easy to build and can carry you up to floor 12. Melt can deal a lot of damage, even with a shielder, and burn melt is a fun alternative. She also has a lot of great F2P options for these teams such as Barbara or Sucrose for freeze and Bennet, Xiangling, and Layla for melt (Lan Yan should be a great option for her too). I agree that there are a lot of better options for the abyss floor 12 nowadays, and if you want her to reach her max potential without a shielder, she is one of the hardest characters to play in the game. That being said, as someone who got Ganyu as my first limited 5 star back in 3.6, Ganyu is an extremely valuable pull for new players, and made the game WAY easier for me. She should at least be around Wanderer, but I could definitely argue that she deserves to be in the “very strong if you like them” tier. If you got this far, thanks for reading my entire rant.
I think the issue with Ganyu is that a lot of players hate charged attack ranged characters. It comes up really consistently whenever a new character with that playstyle comes out. So she's amazing with that very important caveat.
Ganyu carried my ass in the early game. At that time her power level felt unbelievable compared to my other units
I think the main downside to Mavuika vs Neuvi discussion is that her teams are much more restrictive in order to fully optimize (that need for Nightsoul/Natlan characters spiel), but her plus is that she DOES work off-field as well, which is great, and her short DPS bursts allows for more dual-DPS team building (I've been using them together tbh). LOL
@Jello are you seriously suggesting pulling for C0R0 Raiden in 2025 as a DPS? And putting her next to Navia, Clorinde, Neuvillette and Arlecchino? The cope is strong with this one
Considering how many of your videos I watch and that I really value your opinions and takes, I thought I ought to drop a comment just to say thanks. and also to please keep it up, i've played genshin since day 1 and still get a lot of value and help from these videos.
Lyney and hu tao in the same tier as yomyia/cyno/itto and ayato :DD
hutao feels ass to play in overworld tbh. this video wasnt just abyss performance
So happy I invested in C2 Raiden 2 years ago. Still easy to use and can clear everything comfortably, also she works with so many teams
The total interruption resistance during her Burst even at C0 is really nice tbh.
You really need her weapon to really maker her ER mean something. She's been meh for me without her sig
I have kazuha so i didn't pulled xilonen cuz i was ( am) saving for arlecchino. Kazuha feels really great to use in the overworld (although i can go afk with furina raiden skill to kill ). Recently i got citalali. Previously i used gaming/Bennet/ furina/ kazuha team . Now when i try to use citlali instead of furina, kazuha feels really awkward and annoying cuz the v.v. effect lasts only 10s and because melt isn't that much consistent as vape , i cant just unga bunga do kazuha burst every time sp the melt doesn't mess up.
So now i guess i want xilonen now. Altho kazuha feels really great in the overworld.
I agree, I don’t have Xianyun yet so my current Gaming team is similar to yours and it’s clunky af. If you plan to pull Xilonen for Gaming, then Xianyun is better because she buffs plunge attack dmg. But if you’ve got other teams for Xilonen then definitely go for her too.
Ngl, Xelonen is one of the best exploration unit I have , only Chasca and Mavuika beat her in exploration in my opinion.
You should definitely wait for her rerun, you wouldn't be disappointed.
Jello Impact genuinely has helped me who to choose and build. Thank you Jello
Sigewinning is solid. I got my first 36 star with her.
Most underrated support of the best support in Genshin! Get her C2!
Imo, Xianyun should be at the top of the list if we are leaning casual.
Plunge is incredibly f2p friendly. And even if you dont need plunge, you will enjoy a anemo healer who can carry thrilling tales.
For the love of everything Shenhe! I can see the light but its been such a long and cold watch.
Finally. C6 awaits. I might r5 but gosh is this weapon banner dogwater.
Yay another video ❤🎉
That top tier is indeed a must pull tier.
unless you like torturing yourself and hate what works best and try to do your own thing and like to suffer and ....enjoy doing all that basically.
Bro really loves Chloride and Emilie
I feel like yoimiya is struggle bus honestly. she was already worse than hu tao when she debuted and she has been lagging behind ever since. She also has very serious gameplay issues such as being very vulnerable to interruption and being penalized for dodging. her homing charge attack is pretty good at archery challenges if you dont have tignari ig ????
Longer hair looking good, mate. Thanks for the video. I'm gonna skip all natlan and save for tsaritsa. Assuming she doesn't ride a soviet tank.
Raiden is a bit too high ,despite having a 72 190 270 Raiden i have a hard time clearing abyss with any of her teams and most of new units wont need that much of Er anyway so i wouldnt put her up there with the others - hyperbloom kuki is a better choice especially against shield units ,aggravate fishl ,maybe tighnari spread but he rlly doesnt need energy ,electro reactions rlly hold her back a lot even with all the boost overload doesnt rlly do much and you ll need a high con chev ,not to mention months of farming for emblem
She's my only electro DPS and I'm very disappointed with how she was powercrept. And I got her to use w C6 Chevreusse. Had waited since I started the game 2 years ago to get her and then she got nerfed.
If you're a Navia Main you'd be happy with this list bcz Jello recognized how good of a char she is overall
Never thought I’d see the day where Kazuha is slowly losing relevance
Kazuha will always be relevant for my ley lines.
He's not, Jello just pulled some big Jellos here. It's becoming a trend lately.
I mean look at the abyss currently, there's no need such a crowdcontrol this day
11:55 Saying that 3 limited 5*s is "not expensive" sounds wild lol
Thanks, but im pulling childe on the chronicled anyway
Good list and fun watch. Hope you're having a good new year.
My support recommendions ( Not in particular power order)
1. Xilonen/ Kazuha
2. Furina
3. Yelan ( may be )
4. Zhongli ( if you want comfort)
6. Nahida ( very very very solid for dendro teams)
Not putting citlali here is a crime and where the f is nahida?
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m I felt she did not bring anything extra compared to Xilonen and Kazuha. And yes it's my mistake to overlook Nahida.
@TechTalk0069 from the videos I have seen, Citlali replaced Kazuha in melt teams, tho not too sure about mono Hydro or freeze.
@@UA-camBOSS-s2m she's not that versatile, though ultra strong on her niche (y'know, like nilou's case)
@@TechTalk0069citlali is borderline yelan power creep since furina pushed yelan out as the generic support in like a Xiao or a hyperbloom team citlali pushed yelan out of the the pyro reaction support with characters like arlecchino mavuika
I can't recommend yelan anymore
when you find out the chars you played since 3 years, your beloved faves, are still very strong/solid and it comes from a reputable source other than yourself for once. Yay! (Ei and Miko, and I can't really speak because over the years I c6ed both so I have no clue how the base versions compare today...)
Jello impact: there's no must pull in the game 😊
Zajef: Bennett 🗿🗿🗽🗽🔥🔥
Isnt he more of a XQ fan? -=o
@@dnoyrnoptere3499 he is two😆
@@dnoyrnoptere3499 XQ doesn't work as well with a lot of the newer 5* carries whereas a lot of them still want Bennett, and he has talked a lot about this. He still things XQ is OP AF, but Bennett is arguably better in the current meta
When talking about new players I’m surprised you didn’t take into account poise.
I have a new player friend who didn’t really know what to do and didn’t dodge and would just spam normal attacks, but she used a claymore character, so they were able to stun enemies without really knowing how to dodge or remembering to use all the abilities, so I think that’s something to take into account for the claymore 5 stars.
Now, i understand fuirna is really useful and Xilonen is too, but fuina allows ANY unit to run mh for a free 36% crit rate, ANY its not optimal for some, but Xilonen can't give the ability of an artifact set to people.
Maybe that would he less considered after a certain point, as people can get the crit stats they want, but yeah, Furina allows for mh on anyone whilst Xilonen can't do that
@UA-camBOSS-s2m yes, BUT, Furina can enable an artifact set, Xilonen has 0 way of GIVING 36% crit rate at c0
It wouldn't matter if your older player, but it's important to understand for a newer player without many good artifact sets, it's a god send
At the cost of a healing slot though, whereas Xilonen condenses a buff and healing slot. I think I would call it a wash.
@@apexcrab why would you pit them against each other, when they have great synergy and can be played together for higher buffs
Nice video!
Absolutely DIABOLICAL take regarding Citlali replacing Furina. I think it's important to remember that a lot of people watching this might be new players or someone who would rather have a hydro character with a very simple kit than all bells and whistles and other fckery that Natlan characters have.
I think the most real tierlist would be putting all characters in one called "pull if you like them". This is quite close to it, good job
Your argument for postion for Xiao is restrictive, expensive team. But doesn't it apply to mavuika as well? She really needs Natlan premium 5 stars to work well. I don't agree with mavuika position.
The difference is she feels amazing with them and is good (not great) without them. All the while being a great offield Pyro applicator and fairly strong sub-dps/support and a goddamn beast in overworld exploration. So even comparing her to Neuvillette won't be a fair comparison cause one of them can only work onfield.
Well Xiao has an expensive team that doesn’t have high pay off, Xiao by current standard is quite average in his best team whereas Mavuika is flat out the best dps in the game with her best team mates on top of having off field utilities.
C6 faruzan is like 3 5* pulls and her banners do not line up well for xiao as she is glued to wanderer who you dont want if you want to play xiao.
Mavuika needs 1 5* vs xiao's 2 5*s + rare 4* c6.
Mavuika also reaches the dps ceiling with her team while xiao starts to be able to clear content.
As others have said, Mavuika only needs either Xilonen or Citlali to get her burst up easily. Even then there are 4 star options you can use. And at the end of the day, she just does much more than Xiao damage wise while also having off field supportive capabilities.
But most importantly is her exploration abilities far outrank Xiao's. Which would give her even more of an edge.
Mav’s multipliers dog on Xiao. She still pushes out immense dmg in her free 5* team with cinder city kachina, bennet,and kaeya, also she’s a sub dps and a buffer.
Xilonen, Kazuha,Nahida and Furina form a core where you can always 36 star Abyss. Zhongli is occasionally useful. I place Mavuika in top row but only at C1+ (18 seconds tap E skill instead of 12) .Emilie is also amazing but I feel I need her weapon to make her perform better . And I still love my C6 Yae Miko because she's E skill and has the most consistent damage in all situations including Abyss and Overworld.
I refuse to pull for Citlali even if I got C6 Mavuika.
1) Weird split scaling where you have to chose between Crit and EM (Shield or DMG)
2) E that needs to be fixed with a Sac weapon (20% chance of missing at R5)
3) Dependent on Bennett for bis "nuke" team which I hate using
4) TTDS is a super cope weapon.
5) Competition for the Scroll set with Mavuika.
I'd rather use Emilie+Mavuika+Xilonen + whatever (Raiden Shogun works in this team as Dual DPS overload/burning).
Yelan is single target, Burst and ER dependant and needs a character that do Normal Attacks. I always disliked using Xinqiu for all these reasons and even then I think he's better han her.
I think mavuika goes down a little because she has a very restrictive team. You need Natlan 5 stars to unlock her potential (I play her with kachina and it feels terrible). But just like Xiao is lower because he needs a premium team to be good, I think Mavuika is the same (even tho she only really needs one character instead of 3).
Mavuika ororon/kachina benny furina is one of the best teams in the game
Same with mavuika ororon chevreuse benny, she can also be an off field dps, dual carry and can support with the scroll set
She is also a top3 unit in overworld, piss easy to use and easy to build with codex
how is Kachina feeling terrible for you? im get near well enough fighting spirit with her
I mean most ppl will be getting a Xilo or Citlali down the road bc of how broken they are
Sorry you gotta deal with the Mav mains in this comment section lmao
When they say it feels terrible they mean they have to use Kachina, a generally chunkier character and intentionally change the way they play the team to make it work, cuz needing to go out of your way to spam Kachinas thing is awful. They said Kachina, not Ororon so keep that in mind, and it's not like he's wrong wither. Natlan hasn't really brought a solid four star yet like Chevreuse, do all y'all Mavuika havers just get Xilonen or Citlali, or her C1. She isn't a bad character but the means to make her her best compared to three hydro reactions and a simple charge attack can make her lower.
TLDR: Mavuika isn't bad but can feel bad to play with the wrong characters, placing her lower for several.
Also Xiao *needing* c6 faruzan and adeptus mommy isn't really true. It's his best team ofc, but it's not like you can't just use another teams with him and he's still going to do pretty nice.
Plus, he's the only DPS whose signature weapon is on the standart banner.
I am glad you put Nilou as high as you did. Been saying for ages that she is one of the most valuable characters a new player can get because she allows a new player to turn 3 4*s you get for free and that nobody wants for anything else into a team that can clear at least floor 9(and usually 10) of the abyss fairly early, allowing you to use all your value units elsewhere. Its just such an easy way to turn a single pull into a viable team without relying on units you want for other teams.
The thing that continues to boggle my mind is that nobody really seems to recognize the power and fun of Navia plunge. You still get like 300k+ skills but you also get like ~80-100k plunges in rapid succession. Its super fun for abyss floors where enemies don't stay grouped and amazing for the overworld because you're not bound to a circle or a long chain of setup.(Also Xianyun is great for mobility). Unquestionably the most fun team in the game to play. By a huge margin.
Id say the top three are Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen
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3. Mavuika
The strongest DPS while also replaces XL in some teams (no joke, my strongest Navia team is the one with Mavuika even surpassing Furina)
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2. Furina
Might be the most flexible character in the game
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1. Xilonen
A Healer Kazuha with longer buff duration and can buff Geo. Id never expect genshin to release an unit as good as her
I oddly decided I didn’t want to pull Pyro Archon now because the archons seem like the only consistent reruns with the annual archon conga line. If somebody else comes up soon for a rerun and I’m burned out of primos, maybe they never have their own banner again now and go to Chronicled Wish hell forever. I’ve been playing for awhile and never used to consider the possibility of a character being locked in the basement forever when deciding my pulls, but now it’s a become a big concern when deciding whether to pull or wait.
Furina >>>> Xilonen
pull whoever u like
exactly!! every character has value if you use them correctly, and if you like them you’ll be more motivated to build them and their teams.
I would personally put hutao in the very strong teir because even though people find her annoying or hard to play she's not as hard to use correctly it's just a little hard to maximise her damage and also another plus point i would like to add is she is the best driver of the double hydro core which is busted team general. She for sure doesn't belong in the same teir as cyno and ayato when her dps potential better than most characters on the Tier above her. Probably a middle ground would be better like a different tier.
@@FlameAkemi because Furina Xianyun Bennett Hu Tao does 200k plunge atks 6 times and 200k burst, on top of Furina off field dmg.
and Furina Yelan Bennett Hu Tao does 100k charge atks 5 times without cancel and a bunch of normal atks that trigger more Yelan co ordinated atks, otherwise 7 times+ with jump cancel.
I guess you didn't build her well because 40k is too low.
@@FlameAkemi she achieves that with an r5 dragon's bane and c0 furina and c0 xianyun (or c0 yelan).. If I had c6 Furina she would be hitting way way more and c2 xianyun would break the game.. sadly I'm no whale.
@@FlameAkemi I agree Mavuika is stronger and Arlecchino has more qol.. but you are underselling Tao, because I believe her to be the 4th best dps after those two and Neuvillette. I don't know what you are doing wrong but my Tao is clearly doing good dmg with pretty low investment as well. (the numbers I mentioned were against overworld Mountain King, Coppelia, Coppelius etc) maybe you were testing against high resistance enemies? Don't know.
@@FlameAkemi pyro dmg bonus is a huge increase.. marechausseee hunter is great with furina (maybe that's the reason your hu tao is weaker, because you can't use that and also don't get furina's huge dmg buff).. also 4 pc gilded isn't bad, nor is 2 pc 2 pc pyro or em.. with good stats.. if you are using bennett go for more em and crit rather than hp.. these are my only suggestions.. I guess without furina or xianyun she isn't as great.. she used to be great without them during her time because the enemies weren't that strong and barely any other character was that good, now you need her best team mates to keep up with the best dps like Neuv or Mavuika or Arle (yeah they also need good team mates to perform well, but they do way more in their best teams).
@@FlameAkemi you probably didn't swrl pyro in this team. It's already hard to pull off plusw yelan cannot apply enough hydro at c0 if you try to spam charge attacks.My hutao with r2 dragons bane used to do 70/80k charge attack so you probably weren't even vaporising. But you are so wrong about her damage. My current hutao team is hutao yelan furina xilonen and she comfortably does 110/120k charge attacks ( c1 r1 hutao everyone else at c0, but c1 hutao doesn't even increase her damage directly). Also i never said she was better than arlecchino or mavuika i was just saying she is better than most of the dps in the upper tier. ( I just want to add another plus point for her, since her best team is 2 hydro one pyro and one geo she will comfortably beat any abyss even if it has restrictions ( unlike most hyper carries) for example take the current one where my friends arlecchino was struggling because this abyss is so restricted with pyro my hutao cleared it super easily, may sound like glazing but it's true.
Brother i just completed your video and it is much much more helpful then i thik it would be, i just started playing genshin impact i think 4to5 mounths this tire list helped me a lot for my future pulls and your guid videos are next level for an f2p player like me i play in asia server got few dps raiden and Hydro dragon and this video helped me a lot Thank you
Wanderer is arguable my best DPS (C1 Neuvillette is the only one that may be better.) He never seems to get enough credit.
Because he's weak
@@HahaHaha-jx4le weak you're mind noob, the reason you won't appreciate him coz you loosed 50/50 on his 3rd rerun too😂
@@HahaHaha-jx4le Or you are just bad at the game
He may deal lower Dmg and has less AoE than Neuvillette, but in some situations i enjoy playing Wanderer more, like in most combat events (specifically multi-wave with single-target or closely-grouped opponents). Autotargetting with normal attack spam while just floating at same spot in the air is just nice.
@@UA-camisrunbybloodbelchin-p9c aren't you the one bad at the game if your best DPS is a character who is not the strongest? Lol, you can't utilize the stronger characters at their best potential.
I was really surprised by Kokomi this high on the list, but I don't necessarily disagree
20:33 I think you should have at least mentioned that arlecchino can't be healed by other charachters which I think is a mutch bigger deal for begginer/chasual players than you would assume
I’ve always been the guy who pulls for meta, but ever since I was able to clear the abyss with ease, I changed my perspective to play with whoever I like more and enjoy the game and I believe having fun is more important and not getting burned out by it, when I first got into Genshin, I remember players abusing Venti’s burst and obliterating the abyss and it was satisfying to watch, sadly I never got the chance to pull for him but now I’m waiting for his rerun!! Also Aliss was like the only speedrunner using Venti at the time alongside Kazuha and it was a pleasure to watch.
Pull for whoever you want and if it’s strong, even better!! (perfect example: Mavuika)
Kokomi is so polyvalent she deserve the S rank =3 Driver for taser and monohydro, bloom partner for Nilou, solid ToTM + TTDS healer, decent hydro AoE application... She is a solid pick for sure.
She’s a jack of all trade master of none. As a fairly invested player who owns Kokomi I can say that I barely ever use her because she’s barely ever the optimal character. It’s just the reality of things, it’s better to be really good at a specific thing than be decent at a bunch of things, especially the more that the game progresses.
For the 99 percent people who don’t have nilou, kokomi is just waste of primogems.
Completely disagree on alhaitham he is one of the most f2p friendly character saying he is over rated when he doesn't need furina and bennet and kazuha and xilonen is just not right. Given me best consistent clears more than any one. Playing alhaitham- quickbooom and playing hyperbloom with other characters is completely different.
Very good tierlist i agree with it only 1 objection, lyney should be in very strong tier his damage potential is really good i know that jello knows that aswell
he really is very strong but jello said that he was making the video for generalists, and unfortunately while lyney does amazing damage his best supports (xiangling, bennett) are highly contested and his charged atk playstyle isn’t generally liked
@hal4683 thats why it says if you like them in the tier list, im just saying his potential and for generalists his play style is quite basic once you learn how to play him although i agree that people do dislike him and that probably causes influence
He plays on controller so he can't aim, makes him super bias against charge shot users. Keyboard and mouse Lyney is super easy in the overworld and high damage from range helps a lot in some areas. In abyss his teams are easy or hard mode based on mechanics and whether or not you can take the dps hit to have a shielder.
@@Bringolfyou can, in fact, aim with a bow on controller. While inferior to kbm, it doesn’t mean it won’t work at all. And this list was not the power ranking but 1. Value 2. ease of use with low investment, and only then power.
Ease of use isn't there
even with a 2x 18% attack set. as long you have xiaos best team set up you can easily hit 120k plunges so he is way stronger than one may think. just extremely expensive.
I play him with c6 Bennett Furina Xianyun and he hits 150k+ pyro vapes consistently 8 times. I have a c4 Faruzan and his anemo dmg is around 100k if you replace Bennett with this Faruzan.. but I have a hard time with er requirements.. c6 Faruzan helps a lot with er issues and maybe then I'll play him in his normal anemo team.
is citlali better for arlechino or is her c1 better ???
C1 is just better.
@ okayy thank you 🙏
@@harleyhaswell3355citlali is better lmao it's not close, pull citlali if you really love arle
Both are not necessary if you prefer high value pull for you account, Better save your Primogem for incoming new character. In case you want pull for now go with Citlali if 4-Star rate up character are no value for you but if you considering 4-Star rate up character value, You better pull for C1 Arlecchino so you could get nice value character along the way.
If your gonna take the time to learn how to melt properly in a Citlali team then Citlali is stronger and will produce very high damage numbers. If you don't want to think and just want to unga bunga c1 would be the better choice
F2P newish player (about 1 year) got to 90 with the starters (hydro traveler, kaeya (ice), Lisa (lightning), amber (fire) and Noelle (earth)
Recently got pyro archon and xilonem? (Roller blade cat girl) and got a random tighnari and diluc as my 5 stars. Got plenty of Bennetts pulling the archon. So got a nice natlan team forming. Leveling my electric sasuke clone now.
Electric Sasuke clone lol I'm dead
My recommendations:
Main Dps
1. Mavuika
2. Neuvillette
3. Arlecchino
4. Navia
5. Clorinde
Buffers
1. Furina
2. Xilonen
3. Kazuha
4. Nahida
5. Zhongli/Citlali
Citlali def much more useful than nahida imo
the natlan set+res down makes her crazy strong, way more teams open up with citlali than nahida
I would even put her above Kazuha honestly
Kazuha is just too versatile but citlali being both a buffer and a sustain at the same time makes her value crazy high
Bad tier list but still okay
replace chlorine with cyno hes just genrally stronger only problem is you need thundering fury
@@srir.5282You are wrong in the sense that they both cater to different teams altogether.
@@srir.5282 wdym? Nahida is the best dendro character lmao
And Zhongli gives universal res shred and 35% em dmg bonus+plus more tanky while citlali gives res shred to hydro and pyro only and 40% em dmg bonus
Nice guide Jello! Maybe you can put some picture of sample workable teams for each character just to give a quick guide for new player? Just a suggestion.
Zongli is a no go nowadays thanks to Citlali and Lan Yan, both provide good enough shields while buffing the team dps more. There is just no content where u are reliant on a 30k hp shield instead of 10k.
Zhongli buffs dmg more than Lanyan. ZL has 20% res shred and 35% dmg bonus with archaic petra artifact set.
The high hp shield makes zhongli comfier than other shielders for any main dps who are on the field for a long time and might take several hits throughout their dmg window.
@@Lassila96 still not good enough tbh, he’s still useful but in most team scenarios very much replaceable
@florlscnt replaceable yes but that’s not what this list is for. This isn’t a power tier list video. It is ease of use and account value for new players. There is no better character for ease of use than zhongli, who removes the need to dodge altogether in the game.
@florlscnt you would be correct but this isnt meta tierlist. Zhongli is still very much a super good pull especially for mobile players/high ping players lol. The stats dont lie. He has consistently been most used characters in abyss too despite him being a dps loss
@@trash0175 also, he is not a dps loss for ppl who need him. Dodging and getting knocked back are dps losses for every single character. When there are difficult enemies in the abyss, zhongli’s usage rates always go up no matter how many alternatives we get
6:42 I easily cleared the current and previous abyss with a team with Raiden-Mavuika-Ororon-Chevreuse. Mavuika and Raiden can work together.
nilou is flexible? nani? how?
Maybe flexible in the sense that she can apply hydro off-field, even if you're not using her for a bloom team. I've never heard of anyone doing that though...
You can use her with any Dendro and Hydro unit I guess.
Most DPSes have like one maybe two best in slot teams and need specific units to do great dmg. Nilou just needs ANY dendro/hydro teammates. You can literally slot in just Barbra, Collei and Yaoyao and she still will do amazingly (funnily enough Collei is even her best teammates for speedrunning so lol).
Suggestion! Maybe this kind of video but instead its which 4star to C6