Great content. As a supporter of the channel, I still use the 3D printer and appreciate all of your printer videos. However, my love for general electronics is much greater. I have been working with hobby level electronics since I was about 10 years old. That was 52 years ago! Keep up the great work and electronics content! I think it's a great idea.
Still have my old pickit 2 back from EE classes, it was absurd how much clever functionality they put into that thing for the 3 i/o lines available. Also it supports a fully stand-alone target program mode, as long as you know the target and have a USB power source, you can pre-load the program payload up to a certain size limitation via "Programming-To-Go", and that's what the button was for, and the status LEDs let you know how it went. Oddly I heard a lot of negative about PK3, so never made that upgrade.
Get it working with Arduino, then you can improve it and spend less money with blank micro. Arduino was designed for schools to teach, not necessarily final design.
You can use an online simulator for the Arduino to build the circuit and test the code. Wokwi.com or Tinkercad circuits are great places to do that. I’ve shown Tinkercad circuits on my channel many times.
They’re the same easy. PICs may even be slightly easier. Lots of reasons to use PICs. They have 1000’s of different devices and many lower cost than AVR. But why one vs other? You can use both.
@@FilamentFriday It seems to me one gets a lot more value from a ESP32 board or a RPi Pico board. PICkit2s are not officially supported and will not be supporting newer PIC devices. Over decades I have seen the rise of PICkit1 then 2 then 3 then four. Always getting more expensive. The Microchip Xpress boards came along and did not require a programmer but last time I looked those had doubled in price from what they were initially.
@peircedan - PICkit plus software (linked in description) adds support for all the latest devices. Since PICkit 2 is open source it lives on and can be used with any compiler or IDE through its auto import hex feature. As I stated in the video, the 8-bit micro plays a role as a peripheral controller thus allowing the 32-bit to do its central processing the same way a central CPU works with peripherals in a vehicle or any control system.
If you are using Atmel studio it’s the same level of complexity and you will find the process okay? However if you are programming those chips through Arduino, you will be surprised when you have to configure everything due to how low level the program is
@mikel9292 - It’s interesting how I used those in past videos and people commented PLA is flammable and ABS is used for most professional boxes. Now I use ABS and I’m told to use PLA/PETG. Can’t win.
@FilamentFriday PLA is flammable, and so is PETG, but ABS is ALSO flammable (like most plastics). The point is that you need a lot of heat for them to combust. I would consider using ABS (or even a more specialized material) if your electronics required high current because it withstands the most heat of the three. However, for this kind of project, it doesn’t matter at all which material you use, so why bother using ABS?
Ok for REP, but I disagree with RAP. RAP stands for 'Rapid Prototyping,' which refers to digital fabrication techniques. These include tools like 3D printers or CNC machines capable of physically creating prototypes. It specifically involves the transformation of digital designs into tangible objects, which is distinct from standard PCB creation using off-the-shelf components. In the RepRap world, off-the-shelf components are referred to as 'vitamins,' but the entire prototype cannot be made solely from such components. The 'RAP' in RepRap emphasizes the physical fabrication of prototype parts." - Axel, early contributor to the RepRap movement.
The same way a 3D Printer creates just some of the components that are assembled with other components to produce the next 3D Printer that then produces plastic prototypes that are assembled into some other rapid prototype product, the programmer produces a key part of the 2nd programmer that then can transform digital designs of code and produce programmed microcontrollers that are assembled into rapid electronic prototypes that become standalone products or controls for things like CNC or 3D Printers
@@FilamentFriday It’s well-known that UA-camrs often go to great lengths to assert their infallibility, though I had hoped you might transcend this pattern. That said, we are far removed from the spirit of RepRap here, as the suffix applies to prototyped parts, not code. In your example, there are no prototyped parts only 'vitamins': standard components assembled. Even if you had milled the PCB yourself with a CNC, it would scarcely align with the definition, as no machine here replicates its own parts. This is precisely why a Creality, though borrowing entirely from RepRap, cannot be considered one. While the intellectual exercise behind your use of the term is entertaining, it is nonetheless misapplied in this case. Definitely.
Really interesting circuit, Chuck! The box turned out beautiful! Well done!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Another great video! Really enjoyed watching the evolution of the design process!
Great content. As a supporter of the channel, I still use the 3D printer and appreciate all of your printer videos. However, my love for general electronics is much greater. I have been working with hobby level electronics since I was about 10 years old. That was 52 years ago! Keep up the great work and electronics content! I think it's a great idea.
Thanks for sharing this video and information. Thought provoking too at least for me. Just discovered your channel. Yes I clicked 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 & subscribed
Still have my old pickit 2 back from EE classes, it was absurd how much clever functionality they put into that thing for the 3 i/o lines available. Also it supports a fully stand-alone target program mode, as long as you know the target and have a USB power source, you can pre-load the program payload up to a certain size limitation via "Programming-To-Go", and that's what the button was for, and the status LEDs let you know how it went. Oddly I heard a lot of negative about PK3, so never made that upgrade.
Really cool. I'm hoping to build an automatic chicken coop door, probably using an arduino to control a servo motor, but maybe I can go even cheaper.
Get it working with Arduino, then you can improve it and spend less money with blank micro. Arduino was designed for schools to teach, not necessarily final design.
@@FilamentFriday Thanks, will look into that.
You can use an online simulator for the Arduino to build the circuit and test the code. Wokwi.com or Tinkercad circuits are great places to do that. I’ve shown Tinkercad circuits on my channel many times.
Content I love.
Nice, thank you.
Come on Chuck it's the CHEP-Kit 2. You need some help with your marketing...
I like how you think!
There is a whole series of kits in the works that may be using that name but thanks for the support.
@@FilamentFriday Can't wait to see what you come up with. I love watching your videos.
Great video. How much harder is it to program a PIC vs an ATMega is there a reason to use a PIC anymore?
They’re the same easy. PICs may even be slightly easier. Lots of reasons to use PICs. They have 1000’s of different devices and many lower cost than AVR. But why one vs other?
You can use both.
@@FilamentFriday It seems to me one gets a lot more value from a ESP32 board or a RPi Pico board. PICkit2s are not officially supported and will not be supporting newer PIC devices. Over decades I have seen the rise of PICkit1 then 2 then 3 then four. Always getting more expensive. The Microchip Xpress boards came along and did not require a programmer but last time I looked those had doubled in price from what they were initially.
@peircedan - PICkit plus software (linked in description) adds support for all the latest devices. Since PICkit 2 is open source it lives on and can be used with any compiler or IDE through its auto import hex feature.
As I stated in the video, the 8-bit micro plays a role as a peripheral controller thus allowing the 32-bit to do its central processing the same way a central CPU works with peripherals in a vehicle or any control system.
@@FilamentFriday you can also use it for the ATTiny and PIC12’s for stuff that can work within limited pins and memory
If you are using Atmel studio it’s the same level of complexity and you will find the process okay? However if you are programming those chips through Arduino, you will be surprised when you have to configure everything due to how low level the program is
Very interesting video. Just one question: who is still printing with ABS??
A lot of the time you might get some for one special purpose and then you have the whole role to use
@mikel9292-What do you recommend or use for electronics cases?
@@FilamentFriday PETG is more than enough, and I guess for small electronics that won't get too hot, PLA would be fine.
@mikel9292 - It’s interesting how I used those in past videos and people commented PLA is flammable and ABS is used for most professional boxes.
Now I use ABS and I’m told to use PLA/PETG.
Can’t win.
@FilamentFriday PLA is flammable, and so is PETG, but ABS is ALSO flammable (like most plastics). The point is that you need a lot of heat for them to combust. I would consider using ABS (or even a more specialized material) if your electronics required high current because it withstands the most heat of the three. However, for this kind of project, it doesn’t matter at all which material you use, so why bother using ABS?
Ok for REP, but I disagree with RAP. RAP stands for 'Rapid Prototyping,' which refers to digital fabrication techniques. These include tools like 3D printers or CNC machines capable of physically creating prototypes. It specifically involves the transformation of digital designs into tangible objects, which is distinct from standard PCB creation using off-the-shelf components. In the RepRap world, off-the-shelf components are referred to as 'vitamins,' but the entire prototype cannot be made solely from such components. The 'RAP' in RepRap emphasizes the physical fabrication of prototype parts." - Axel, early contributor to the RepRap movement.
The same way a 3D Printer creates just some of the components that are assembled with other components to produce the next 3D Printer that then produces plastic prototypes that are assembled into some other rapid prototype product, the programmer produces a key part of the 2nd programmer that then can transform digital designs of code and produce programmed microcontrollers that are assembled into rapid electronic prototypes that become standalone products or controls for things like CNC or 3D Printers
@@FilamentFriday It’s well-known that UA-camrs often go to great lengths to assert their infallibility, though I had hoped you might transcend this pattern. That said, we are far removed from the spirit of RepRap here, as the suffix applies to prototyped parts, not code. In your example, there are no prototyped parts only 'vitamins': standard components assembled. Even if you had milled the PCB yourself with a CNC, it would scarcely align with the definition, as no machine here replicates its own parts. This is precisely why a Creality, though borrowing entirely from RepRap, cannot be considered one. While the intellectual exercise behind your use of the term is entertaining, it is nonetheless misapplied in this case. Definitely.
@axelSixtySix - Guess we’ll just agree to disagree.