I dispute #3. Those guys didn't have the option of continuing to be seen as friends in a public setting. They were literally commanded not to be seen together in public as fallout from the whole 227 thing. The thing is, nobody should assume they know the back story of actors' relationships or expect that relationships portrayed on screen have anything to do with real life. I'm satisfied if relationships between actors are professional and cordial. The rest is not really our business, is it?
@@Glory_Kathomi.Author or commentator? The actors haven't been able to respond clearly themselves, XZ has his own agency but WYB is under a very strict agency. The whole scenario from 2020/21 sucked and ruined a lot more than off screen relations between the 2, neither have had documented friendships or relationships since.
Noticed that they didn't appeared together in award shows recently but after the 227 incidents in 2020 they actually did appear together? It was from 2022/2023 that they stop appearing together eventhough attended the same show if I am not wrong. So what happened in 2022/2023 that caused this, that's the question.
@@ms.chuisin7727 Their solo fans are extremely toxic. They will even shut down a joint endorsement deal like they did some months ago. If their own fans can't stand to see them together, surely what do you expect?
For Xiao Zhan & Wang Yibo: you have the fans to blame for ruining any future collaboration with these two. The fan base was so toxic than even Xiao Zhan’s fans caused this man to go into hiding for almost a year instead of enjoying his fame from Untamed! These two guys had such a fun behind the scenes times onset of Untamed but the fans promptly put an end to any kind of friendship they could have had in real life. Cnetizens are batshit crazy and have no life of their own. They want to control their idols and making sure they have no life of their own without their approval. This is the downside of being a celebrity!
@@Kistan12 almost every one blame xz's fans for 227 incident.but I see it from a different view.it all started from that disgusting fanfic.do you guys know what was in there?it wasn't some normal fanfic.exteme vulgar.when people specially yibo's fans shout saying "xz's fans shouldn't report it,"i always wanted to ask, what would you do,if yibo was portrayed like xz's character in that fanfic? wouldn't you be angry and try to delete it from earth?that a03 site was under government's scrutiny for a long time because it was home for this type of writing which is against ethics.so when it was reported they took immediate action and banned whole platform.they should ban only these type creations.but who have courage to speak against gov decision in china?so people choose a scapegoat to vent their anger and frustration and that scapegoat was xz's fans.i think if I was there I would also report that fanfic and make that author pay for her vicious doing. after ward it was proven that yibo's fandom was no less toxic.
@@maheelalapesting8610 Estoy de acuerdo contigo 100%. Yo visito Weibo a diario y veo fans de Wang Yibo que participaron en 227 incluso crearon grupos especiales para seguir desprestigiando a Xiao Zhan, se burlan de sus trabajos, de su imagen, de sus respaldos, etc. Lo más molesto es que me he dado cuenta que algunas empresas con fines oscuros especialmente económicos, se aprovechan de esto para seguir con la violencia en línea. Ahora hay otro fandom que se les unió y tratan de boicotear todo lo que puedan de Xiao Zhan. Afortunadamente lo veo más fuerte que antes y ha madurado mucho.
As an MTJJ and XFX , I totally agree with you but it's better to do report it to the Idol and their agency/studio then delete permanently, some of the fandom's are surly toxic not all and whoever did it is to bring them to the down , but it's hopefully ok between them nowadays , the fans just have to work harder to provide and protect them against any harm ; They're responsible, respectful, adventureic , passionate, hardwarking , down to earth, an such pure soul type of people 🐰
Xiao Zhan y sus fans no son los responsables del incidente 227, son los locos fans MTJJ, los haters y las empresas con motivos ocultos que siempre lo han querido suprimir y arman un escándalo por todo. Además esas MTJJ son demasiado violentas o no te acuerdas de lo ocurrido en los premios Magnolia? y lo último que ocurrió con los 15 años de YH Enterteiment? Eso si fue todo un show para suprimir a su favorito y por otro lado ¿Porqué Wang Yibo no salió a gestionar a sus fans? ¿Porqué piden que Xiao Zhan si salga a gestionar a los fans si otros no lo hacen?
I love both Zhang Zhehan and Gong Jun and both are correct in their places, Han-Han is righteousness and never did all those bad works and Gong Jun didn't step in because he has his own works if he will not get any acting works who will watch his family, if you know him you will know that he work so that his parents don't suffer, he is not very rich or anything
they're actors being paid handsomely to portray characters in love (often 3x-4x a year in different dramas). Of course they're not going to bond with or even like all their costars.
Exactly indeed so true. Wang Yibo is a pure heart and mind, no fakery in his bones, if he trust and comfortable with the person to be his good friends and enjoy to hangout with, he stayed connected with them, like he does with (UNIQ group brothers)Yixuan, Seungyoun, Wenhan (CSD3,4,5) Lay Zhang, Jackson Wang, Han Geng, Boubou,(DDUP brothers) Dazhangwie, Wang Han,( Unknown hidden blade, Mermaid ) Eric Wang. They all treated him with respect, brotherly love and affection as the youngest brother of them all. Literally Boubou said he respect, loves and like Wang Yibo as a brother and a true friend, because Wang Yibo's kind hearted personality, humble attitude and also a talented overload versatile dancer.
@@liliadworkin3450 Pero su empresa Lehua es muy tóxica, no puedes negarlo. Entonces los intereses de esa empresa se dirigen a destruir a aquellos a quienes no les gusta o ven como una amenaza, ocasionando guerras de fandom para señalar a uno y a otros.
Esther Yu also feuded with Dylan Wang on their film together - to the point where the director had to step in. The problem is Esther tries to act “cute” all the time, but her childishness gets annoying. Least that’s my takeaway from the bts clips I’ve seen.
Disagree! Those behind the scenes so-called "feuds" with Dylan Wang are extremely popular even today 2 years later! It help to propel LBFD to #1 Drama. He can not speak more highly of her. Shall i quote him?
I'm disagree too! The fact that many Esther Yu partner in drama says she's not to act cute. She's talk normally just like that and always loved by all crew for her lovely ❤❤
Wow. The Zhang Jingyi and Chen Xingxu story is unbelievable. Im a fan of her's because I watched Lighter and Princess, the drama she did with Chen Feiyu, in which both were amazing. Instantly became a fan of them both. But i did get the feeling that this one lady is comfortable with just being who she is. Doesn't seem like the type to take bs, just wants to happily do her work and go home.
Have dispute with someone doesn't mean you are bad person, for either of them.. I think it's interesting as well that she feel comfortable enough to show "this guy is in my blacklist, so scram the cp!" Which is really rare and funny
I didn’t like Hu Yi TiAn after he said that, wether it’s Shen yue or other actress, its the respect of not talking bad to your lead actress. His acting is mediocre too so who is he to judge??
@@cornelio26 Hmmm,,, people forget his scandal, randomly sleeping with women while in a relations, dissing Shen Yue and his fans, all while commanding 50million rmb per filming. For a little campus drama😅 he still acts like a cocky ass these days.
1. Xu Kai and Esther Yu interactions are understandable. Yu is known for her childish behaviour and that is not everyone's cup of tea. Clearly, not Xu Kai's (lol) but if you watch Yu and Wang Hedi's interactions off camera, they get along really well, play all kind of jokes and are playful as puppies. Yeah, sometimes we connect, and sometimes not. As simple as that. 3. Ahhh... my dear Zhan Zhan :( I am sure they are never going to work together again I really hope they still are friends despite all of the mess Zhan zhan's fandom created. They seemed to really enjoy working together and the reason they don't interact publicly is probably because they know that those rumours about them being a romantic couple could not only ruin their careers but their lives too considering the laws in their country. It's so sad to lose a good friendship in an industry where that is so hard to find. 4. Bian Cheng lesson on how to be that mean gay b!ch coworker who's jealous because of nobody is allowed to be brighter than him. 5. Hu Yi Tian, really? Criticise someone because she dares to have talent to resonate with audiences instead of having good looks, just shows how shallow and superficial c-actors are and how this "looks over talent" rethoric is engrained in their minds. Sad. No wonder there are new faces popping out every month in c-dramas, they just have to look good in front of a camera to pass. 6. Yang Yang...well, he's the product of all that is wrong with c-ent and c-fandoms regarding this toxic obsession with looks lol As an asian granny in my neighbourhood used to say: If you have a pretty face, you already won in life. People will forgive you and forget any stupid thing you say or do. She was korean tho (but I think it applies for c-ent mindsets too).
speaking as a completely objective third-party observer with obviously no personal interest in the matter besides with the no 3 about Zhan-gege and Yibo-Gege; I also agree with you and as a MTJJ and XFX ; I sure that they're friends and brothers behind public overly dramatic matter of the relationship between them 🐰
Los fans de Xiao Zhan no fueron los culpables, porqué insisten en eso? Son los fans MTJJ las que arman un escándalo por todo no te acuerdas de los premios Magnolia este año?
@@liztatianaflorez3942 La guerra fue entre el fandom de Zhan Zhan que denunció la plataforma por considerar irrespetuoso el fic y los MTJJ que defendieron AO3. XZ tomó responsabilidad por las acciones algunos de FXF. Asi que si, fue la parte extremista del fandom quien tuvo parte de la culpa 🤷🏻
@@kazs6529 No señora, está demostrado en muchas plataformas que fue YH Enterteiment quien contrato una cuenta de marketing especializada para lazar ese boicot desde antes del día 227 el AO3 fue porque el gobierno ya tenía planeado bloquear esas plataformas y los haters más las MTJJ aprovecharon para armar más escándalo. Además los fans de Wang Yibo son unos violentos o es que no recuerdan lo que sucedió con el actor Wang Yan en los premios Magnolia de 2024 y lo que paso en los 15 años de YH Enterteiment donde hubo puños y patadas? Porqué piden que Xiao Zhan gestione a sus fans si Wang Yibo no lo hace?
Why do many people hate the kindest,pure talented Yushuxin.Just hating a person based on her personality and voice is astonishing to me because we live in a world where billions of people have billions of personalities and hating someone just because of her pure nature and voice is just not human anymore.Yushuxin did not kill anyone nor did she hurt anyone but because of her personality and voice speculating such hate comments and videos about her and this video admin replying with 💯is just pure hate at this level. Please learn to be kind and respectful. Next people hate her because she is rich which later,all her achievements are credited to her having rich parents and rich resources while in reality her parents are in no way related to ent.industry.if this was the truth she would've been a liulang actress by now since she debuted way back in 2015/16 or maybe earlier and now its already been 8/9 years and have 6/7 main lead roles and 2 more yet to be released (S n S+) which are all in A/A+/S level dramas which later some becomes S+as it does well while comparing to those who have real backup resources releases 2 to 3 dramas in a year and some actresses those who debuted in the same year or debuted after Yushuxin has 20+ main lead dramas in their hands.So guess who are the ones with huge capital backup?Yet some people just on their pure hate towards her continue spreading hate and lies🤡.
Same netzens who ship idols who appear slightly friendly to each other criticize them for keeping their distance to prevent misunderstandings. I feel sorry for what their so called die hard fans put them through. GET A LIFE and stop obsessing about how other people live their's. Love or hate their dramas if you choose but please STOP being toxic live and let live ! Celebrity or not they also deserve peace, love, happiness. If God granted all human beings free will, why are mere mortals fighting to force their will onto others. Let them date who they want, smoke or drink if they want, marry and have kids if they want to publicly....real fans should love them regardless, once it's nothing illegal.
None of us know any of them personally so none of us can give accurate judgement of their true relationship. Modern technology exists, if they keep in contact behind the screen then we wont know about it
It's the 21st century and humans have not learnt anything about relationships between adults. Years ago I learned from someone wiser than I that being respected is more important than being liked. They are actors and professionals. As long as they do their job well, who cares. Also, as a member of Gen X these actors are doing what I call 'roasting'. Good natured insults are natural. That's the problem with social credit scores and Netizens. Good grief, grow up Chinese movie fans.
People just overeacted to Xu and Yu 😂 Ofcourse Xu Kai can't say anything about Tan's weight because she is his senior. But he has the privilege as friend to comment on Yu's. Just watch the sword and fairy bts, they are perfectly fine. And for anyone saying Yu acts childish, listen it's her personality not pretending to. Just watch her on Youth With You program.
They're human too.. sometimes it'shown on their face.. one is charming, anf the other is annoying.. what can you do in the name of professionalism and off course the payment.. hehe.
*I saw a video on Weibo where it is actually Wang Yibo who mocks and belittles Xiao Zhan because, according to him, he is indeed an idol. What Xiao Zhan wasn't at that time. On the other hand, the rudeness went from side to side, I don't know if that was his way of talking to each other, but Wang Yibo was not far behind. Yes, Wang Yibo was very petulant to Xiao Zhan because he was the popular one in the entertainment industry. He also slapped Xiao Zhan in the face. It's another thing for Wang Yibo's fans to defend him, but as an international audience, I see that Xiao Zhan is more polite than Wang Yibo. On the other hand, they were young and the behavior of both of them is pure immaturity*
I don’t know what video you’ve seen but you’re definitely misunderstood. WangYibo “mocks” 😜 WangYibo take good care of Xiao Zhan and vice versa. And I’m so sure you’re talking about the bts of the Untamed. They along with other cast members they usually goof around hitting one another and doing all sort of silly stuffs. In an interview, an interviewer was asked about their constant hitting ma when Yibo replied since a lot of scenes were shot at night they usually hit one another to wake up or freshen up one another. Xiao Zhan and WangYibo has always been good friends. If at all, they’re not good friends, why would Yibo invite Zhange to attend Day day up 10th special Anniversary? And Zhange showed up. It was because of that incident they no longer interact, people should know in general that it was neither Xiaozhan nor WangYibo’s fault, in fact it has nothing to do with Zhange or Yibo.My point is they’re good friends and will forever be. 😌
I never believe what media n content creator told about actors life behind the screen 100% correct specialy negative one, sometimes they made it up / set it up just to gain followers , sometimes the fans n media also get over reaction or over publiced unimportant rumors about em also just to gain their rate audience. Its not fair for everyone who get the bad impact of it. Unles they r not make confirmation or clarification directly , everything r just rumors/gossip. Have positive thinking about everyone is nice thing to do.
Those who are crying that Gong Jun didn't step up...like wtf...do you guys think life is some movie where we ffight for justice for each other? Did you expect him to go against the whole Chinese industry and fight for his costar who even said that they weren't friends😂😂lol... He's not obligated to speak out for anyone and just cause Zhang Zhehan (who i also love) stopped acting doesnt mean Gong Jun has to make up for him
Sorry but you don’t seem to be aware of what actually happened. Gong Jun is indeed responsible for his costar being blackballed from the industry. I have lost all respect for him. It’s a long involved story. Let’s just say Gong Jun has powerful friends in the industry. Last I heard, ZZ was filing s lawsuit which got the go ahead. Don’t know what came of it.
@@leecox6241 but these are all conspiracies that everyone came up with that differ from source to source. These so called powerful people Gong Jun knows....its ridiculous that you all can say that when Gong Jun literally dragged himself through years of starring in unknown lo budget shows and having no shows at all although he entered the industry a while back. Word of Honor, the hit which finally propelled him to his fame literally had a ridiculous budget and was sponsored by a nut company....everyone had practically declared it a flop at that point. Where were Gong Jun's top friends then? People will literally come with the weirdest things. I know the story...till this day Word of Honor is one of my favorite stories and i followed it a lot back then. Zhang Zhehan did claim that someone was trying to block him but deciding it was Gong Jun from that is weird and you must not have had any respect for him at all...which is quite honestly your prerogative. Zhang Zhehan said Gong Jun's company where using him for sales by shipping them....that's honestly ......Word of Honor was Gong Jun's first hit. He had the right to milk it for all its worth. Its basically the top of his portfolio...was he supposed to shelf it? Be lowkey? What!
Exactly! As said above, he was suffering the same and trying to cope with that toxic aftermath of WoH himself. In a system like that you keep your mouth shut.🤐 Did any other actor from WoH speak up? Look at what happened to the person who did! 😕It is sad what happened to ZZH but don't smear GJ 🙏
@@sscarhead NO there is a plot twist in this story which got buried forever and no one will ever find this it's same experience of that drama series which is popular till now acted in 19
Have watched various BTS clips and reports about Hollywood movies and such. While a production is being made, the actors often bond to some extent because of their role interactions but it's not maintained once the production is over. It's a lot to expect of people who are just doing a job, sometimes more than one movie/drama per year. How are they supposed to become friends with everyone?! If they can be professional and not turn into "drama queens" while on set, isn't that enough to ask for? Any lasting relationships are bonuses and not guaranteed. And sometimes, even when all is well between two performers, sometimes one or both could just be having a bad day for an event, making something out of nothing.
I really love Zhang zeham in word of honor and i enjoy his music. Zhang zeham is a winner. I have no interest in any other Chinese actor. They are so lifeless compared to Zhang zeham.
IMO, I think Yang Yang is still into his first love, Li Qin. I once read that when he and LQ were at the beginning of their careers, it was Li Qin's parents or agent who made them break up because they wanted LQ to focus on building her career. At that time, LQ was shining in her career and mostly got positions as lead actress, while YY at that time still got positions as a supporting actor. After they broke up, it seems like YY tried to reach the top, and he is successful now and wants to show and prove himself to LQ that he is more successful than her and can conquer women with his good looks and people even call him a playboy. Until now, it seems like YY and LQ have never spoken to each other even though they met at the same event, and it's hard to hope that they can work together again, even though at the start of their careers they often worked together in several dramas. And LQ is an actress who is famous for being very secretive and careful in living her personal life and trying to avoid all gossip and scandals.
Number 2 and 4 Just Crazy.......... The minutes to Promote the drama seems eternity for them....... They Can't stand one another 😂😂😂😂😂😂 What a Mess....
If they have chemistry which the director needs, so to get good ratings, but then fans believe they're dating. Otherwise if they're not, their acting is criticised, and the drama is a flop. These fans with the obsession for these dramas need clearly to get a life.
few years back, I was one of yangyang's fan. Solely because of his look. been enjoying his works at that time. But now, when I watched his dramas again, I realized that his acting was quite awkward. And now, I only watch his dramas for the sake of the story line and his FL.
It's not Gong Jun's scandal. Leave him out if it 🙏 at the time he was slandered & he suffered just the same.😢 Luckily he survived. As someone said in a comment before if you know his personality just a bit you wouldn't believe these accusations. You don't like actors, dont watch their dramas! no need to slander them 🙏
@@kuessdaspony9584 I'm sorry if it sounded offensive. I've watched more of his shows like word of honor and love equations as compared to the other actor that's why I referred to it as Gong Jun s scandal
Xu and Yu have sooooo much in common, though! They both think sticking a frozen face in the camera is ‘acting’, both a w f u l! Advice to actors: if you do not want the world to know you are gay, do not comment on looks! Yang Yang and Gong Yun in love scenes resemble dentists at work, sorry.
Remember that every scene and shot is controlled by the director. He/she tells them exactly how to express to the camera. If he/she doesn't like it, they reshoot. Blame the director.
Nonsense! ZZH was banned for the photos he took and posted himself in 2018. Scapegoating an innocent person to gain public sympathy doesn't change the fact.
When I heard that first time.. I was also wondering why he did that, But then I realised.. ZZH, who is banned bcoz he took a picture infront of Yasukuni Shrine where Chinese War criminals/victims were buried so they say he is mocking Chinese people or something to that effect, imagine Simon G saying anything to support next thing you know he will attacked also... Cnetizens thinks they are in Charge of their Idols Life...
Lol,Maybe only the kind of you hate her. And with regard to selling CP I can guarantee She is among the few actresses that does not rely on CP at all.All of her dramas except LBFAD that was also minimal promotion as iit was a black horse.All of her other dramas had no CP promotion at all like literally zero promo.Even her dramas in whole are barely promoted do u think she will try to sell her CP? So don't try to speak such nonsense.If you follow her dramas than you will know don't just assume and believe ur own delulu and spew hate on Yushuxin uncesserily. And if u don't like her u don't have to follow her like a stalker and assume and believe on our own understanding about Yushuxin,just leave her alone and stop spreading misinformation.
Media loves her. She's been 2 years Sohu good list. Her co-actors praises her a lot. It's just the girlfriends fans of actors who is so immature to accept it.
I think they're no longer talking to each other because of a few reasons, 227, XZ disrespect Wang Yibo for calling him stupid and crazy for his love of motorcycle racing, also was annoyed of Wang Yibo shared happenings in Produce 101 experienced, photos and stickers in that shows, called Wang Yibo a show off during one of the interviews. During the filming of the UT behind-the-scenes, XZ yelled out during the break, got up lifted his custom outfit in front on Wang Yibo's face throwing insult, Wang Yibo literally was shocked and looked away with a disgusted smile. On one of their UT promotional tour rude XZ looked down on Wang Yibo's crotch, made a comment that made Wang Yibo uncomfortable, retorts to XZ while fixing his front pants in front of the audience watching. Unprofessional attitude XZ just making faces and fanning his own face... Wang Yibo is well mannered man and still a boy at heart, was 19 going 20 in a few months, unsophisticated XZ was 26 years. Now Wang Yibo is so elegantly handsome gentlemen and wiser that of XZ.
Wang yibo who was 19 going to turn 20 who is innocent and completely lost his innocence and a poor guy who got bullied on set in behind the scenes is now 26. Rich, successful, active, got to be with the rude guy xiaozhan but you are just a fan who is only able to see ur idol 2000 km away isn't the world unfair? They were instantly connected the moment they met why do you think it was fast it was first because of xz he pulled out yibo to be comfortable with him. Have u seen initial best friends turn into so n so friends because they felt exhausted at some point?
First, Wang Yibo turned 21 during the filming of "Untamed" and celebrated his 21st birthday with his colleagues un the SET and Xiao Zhan gave him a helmet. Second, if Wang yibo had felt bad or uncomfortable with Xiao zhan he would not talk to him or smile, as he usually does with most people. Third, the scene where xiao zhan laughs because yibo shares his memes where he is handsome is the same one where wang yibo makes fun of xiao zhan because at 27 years old he took photos pouting with his mouth and he laughs so much at zhan that he even says that photo as wallpaper of the conversation between the two. Finally, in China it is frowned upon to show the bulge in a man's crotch, so Zhan looked at Yibo and told him to settle down because he saw journalists taking photos, Yibo settled down and didn't complain, even after settling in he asked him if he was okay and zhan told him yes, I clarify that I know how to speak Chinese... I don't get carried away by gossip or biased translations.
Vi un video en Weibo donde en realidad es Wang Yibo el que se burla y menosprecia a Xiao Zhan porque según él, si es un ídolo. Lo que no era Xiao Zhan en ese momento. Por otra parte la grosería iba de parte y parte, no sé si esa era su forma de hablarse pero Wang Yibo no se quedó atrás. Si, Wang Yibo era muy petulante con Xiao Zhan porque era el popular en la industria del entretenimiento. También le hizo muecas a Xiao Zhan solapadamente. Otra cosa es que los fans de Wang Yibo lo defiendan, pero como público internacional, veo que Xiao Zhan es más educado que Wang Yibo. Por otra parte, eran jóvenes y ese comportamiento de los dos, es pura inmadurez
Do you know of other Chinese Actors who avoid each other? Share with us in the comments!😊
Tang Yan and Yang Mi. They were good friends before but due to one reason, they're no longer friends 😞
Johnny Huang and Timmy Xu from addicted
Gong Jun and others
I dispute #3. Those guys didn't have the option of continuing to be seen as friends in a public setting. They were literally commanded not to be seen together in public as fallout from the whole 227 thing.
The thing is, nobody should assume they know the back story of actors' relationships or expect that relationships portrayed on screen have anything to do with real life. I'm satisfied if relationships between actors are professional and cordial. The rest is not really our business, is it?
You need to update your source of info😂
@@Glory_Kathomi.Author or commentator? The actors haven't been able to respond clearly themselves, XZ has his own agency but WYB is under a very strict agency. The whole scenario from 2020/21 sucked and ruined a lot more than off screen relations between the 2, neither have had documented friendships or relationships since.
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Noticed that they didn't appeared together in award shows recently but after the 227 incidents in 2020 they actually did appear together? It was from 2022/2023 that they stop appearing together eventhough attended the same show if I am not wrong. So what happened in 2022/2023 that caused this, that's the question.
@@ms.chuisin7727 Their solo fans are extremely toxic. They will even shut down a joint endorsement deal like they did some months ago. If their own fans can't stand to see them together, surely what do you expect?
For Xiao Zhan & Wang Yibo: you have the fans to blame for ruining any future collaboration with these two. The fan base was so toxic than even Xiao Zhan’s fans caused this man to go into hiding for almost a year instead of enjoying his fame from Untamed! These two guys had such a fun behind the scenes times onset of Untamed but the fans promptly put an end to any kind of friendship they could have had in real life. Cnetizens are batshit crazy and have no life of their own. They want to control their idols and making sure they have no life of their own without their approval. This is the downside of being a celebrity!
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@@Kistan12 almost every one blame xz's fans for 227 incident.but I see it from a different view.it all started from that disgusting fanfic.do you guys know what was in there?it wasn't some normal fanfic.exteme vulgar.when people specially yibo's fans shout saying "xz's fans shouldn't report it,"i always wanted to ask, what would you do,if yibo was portrayed like xz's character in that fanfic? wouldn't you be angry and try to delete it from earth?that a03 site was under government's scrutiny for a long time because it was home for this type of writing which is against ethics.so when it was reported they took immediate action and banned whole platform.they should ban only these type creations.but who have courage to speak against gov decision in china?so people choose a scapegoat to vent their anger and frustration and that scapegoat was xz's fans.i think if I was there I would also report that fanfic and make that author pay for her vicious doing. after ward it was proven that yibo's fandom was no less toxic.
@@maheelalapesting8610 Estoy de acuerdo contigo 100%. Yo visito Weibo a diario y veo fans de Wang Yibo que participaron en 227 incluso crearon grupos especiales para seguir desprestigiando a Xiao Zhan, se burlan de sus trabajos, de su imagen, de sus respaldos, etc. Lo más molesto es que me he dado cuenta que algunas empresas con fines oscuros especialmente económicos, se aprovechan de esto para seguir con la violencia en línea. Ahora hay otro fandom que se les unió y tratan de boicotear todo lo que puedan de Xiao Zhan. Afortunadamente lo veo más fuerte que antes y ha madurado mucho.
As an MTJJ and XFX , I totally agree with you but it's better to do report it to the Idol and their agency/studio then delete permanently, some of the fandom's are surly toxic not all and whoever did it is to bring them to the down , but it's hopefully ok between them nowadays , the fans just have to work harder to provide and protect them against any harm ; They're responsible, respectful, adventureic , passionate, hardwarking , down to earth, an such pure soul type of people 🐰
Xiao Zhan y sus fans no son los responsables del incidente 227, son los locos fans MTJJ, los haters y las empresas con motivos ocultos que siempre lo han querido suprimir y arman un escándalo por todo. Además esas MTJJ son demasiado violentas o no te acuerdas de lo ocurrido en los premios Magnolia? y lo último que ocurrió con los 15 años de YH Enterteiment? Eso si fue todo un show para suprimir a su favorito y por otro lado ¿Porqué Wang Yibo no salió a gestionar a sus fans? ¿Porqué piden que Xiao Zhan si salga a gestionar a los fans si otros no lo hacen?
I love both Zhang Zhehan and Gong Jun and both are correct in their places, Han-Han is righteousness and never did all those bad works and Gong Jun didn't step in because he has his own works if he will not get any acting works who will watch his family, if you know him you will know that he work so that his parents don't suffer, he is not very rich or anything
@@LoveShineLikeLemon this!
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they're actors being paid handsomely to portray characters in love (often 3x-4x a year in different dramas). Of course they're not going to bond with or even like all their costars.
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Exactly indeed so true. Wang Yibo is a pure heart and mind, no fakery in his bones, if he trust and comfortable with the person to be his good friends and enjoy to hangout with, he stayed connected with them, like he does with (UNIQ group brothers)Yixuan, Seungyoun, Wenhan (CSD3,4,5) Lay Zhang, Jackson Wang, Han Geng, Boubou,(DDUP brothers) Dazhangwie, Wang Han,( Unknown hidden blade, Mermaid ) Eric Wang. They all treated him with respect, brotherly love and affection as the youngest brother of them all. Literally Boubou said he respect, loves and like Wang Yibo as a brother and a true friend, because Wang Yibo's kind hearted personality, humble attitude and also a talented overload versatile dancer.
@@liliadworkin3450 Pero su empresa Lehua es muy tóxica, no puedes negarlo. Entonces los intereses de esa empresa se dirigen a destruir a aquellos a quienes no les gusta o ven como una amenaza, ocasionando guerras de fandom para señalar a uno y a otros.
Esther Yu also feuded with Dylan Wang on their film together - to the point where the director had to step in. The problem is Esther tries to act “cute” all the time, but her childishness gets annoying. Least that’s my takeaway from the bts clips I’ve seen.
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I agree
Disagree! Those behind the scenes so-called "feuds" with Dylan Wang are extremely popular even today 2 years later! It help to propel LBFD to #1 Drama. He can not speak more highly of her. Shall i quote him?
I don't watch that drama because Esther yu being "cute" with her voice 🙈
I'm disagree too! The fact that many Esther Yu partner in drama says she's not to act cute. She's talk normally just like that and always loved by all crew for her lovely ❤❤
Wow. The Zhang Jingyi and Chen Xingxu story is unbelievable. Im a fan of her's because I watched Lighter and Princess, the drama she did with Chen Feiyu, in which both were amazing. Instantly became a fan of them both. But i did get the feeling that this one lady is comfortable with just being who she is. Doesn't seem like the type to take bs, just wants to happily do her work and go home.
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I agree
Have dispute with someone doesn't mean you are bad person, for either of them.. I think it's interesting as well that she feel comfortable enough to show "this guy is in my blacklist, so scram the cp!" Which is really rare and funny
Actors who worked together for months shouldn't have a few minutes of non-sparkly interaction used as a basis for their actual relationship.
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I didn’t like Hu Yi TiAn after he said that, wether it’s Shen yue or other actress, its the respect of not talking bad to your lead actress. His acting is mediocre too so who is he to judge??
Weird that this channel brought that, Shen Yue stood up for him, and he supported her projects and she supports his from what I seen.
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@@cornelio26 Hmmm,,, people forget his scandal, randomly sleeping with women while in a relations, dissing Shen Yue and his fans, all while commanding 50million rmb per filming. For a little campus drama😅 he still acts like a cocky ass these days.
@@cdtkabag139What did he betray her?
1. Xu Kai and Esther Yu interactions are understandable. Yu is known for her childish behaviour and that is not everyone's cup of tea. Clearly, not Xu Kai's (lol) but if you watch Yu and Wang Hedi's interactions off camera, they get along really well, play all kind of jokes and are playful as puppies. Yeah, sometimes we connect, and sometimes not. As simple as that.
3. Ahhh... my dear Zhan Zhan :( I am sure they are never going to work together again I really hope they still are friends despite all of the mess Zhan zhan's fandom created. They seemed to really enjoy working together and the reason they don't interact publicly is probably because they know that those rumours about them being a romantic couple could not only ruin their careers but their lives too considering the laws in their country. It's so sad to lose a good friendship in an industry where that is so hard to find.
4. Bian Cheng lesson on how to be that mean gay b!ch coworker who's jealous because of nobody is allowed to be brighter than him.
5. Hu Yi Tian, really? Criticise someone because she dares to have talent to resonate with audiences instead of having good looks, just shows how shallow and superficial c-actors are and how this "looks over talent" rethoric is engrained in their minds. Sad. No wonder there are new faces popping out every month in c-dramas, they just have to look good in front of a camera to pass.
6. Yang Yang...well, he's the product of all that is wrong with c-ent and c-fandoms regarding this toxic obsession with looks lol
As an asian granny in my neighbourhood used to say: If you have a pretty face, you already won in life. People will forgive you and forget any stupid thing you say or do. She was korean tho (but I think it applies for c-ent mindsets too).
I love your sharing!😊❤️
speaking as a completely objective third-party observer with obviously no personal interest in the matter besides with the no 3 about Zhan-gege and Yibo-Gege; I also agree with you and as a MTJJ and XFX ; I sure that they're friends and brothers behind public overly dramatic matter of the relationship between them 🐰
Los fans de Xiao Zhan no fueron los culpables, porqué insisten en eso? Son los fans MTJJ las que arman un escándalo por todo no te acuerdas de los premios Magnolia este año?
@@liztatianaflorez3942 La guerra fue entre el fandom de Zhan Zhan que denunció la plataforma por considerar irrespetuoso el fic y los MTJJ que defendieron AO3. XZ tomó responsabilidad por las acciones algunos de FXF. Asi que si, fue la parte extremista del fandom quien tuvo parte de la culpa 🤷🏻
@@kazs6529 No señora, está demostrado en muchas plataformas que fue YH Enterteiment quien contrato una cuenta de marketing especializada para lazar ese boicot desde antes del día 227 el AO3 fue porque el gobierno ya tenía planeado bloquear esas plataformas y los haters más las MTJJ aprovecharon para armar más escándalo. Además los fans de Wang Yibo son unos violentos o es que no recuerdan lo que sucedió con el actor Wang Yan en los premios Magnolia de 2024 y lo que paso en los 15 años de YH Enterteiment donde hubo puños y patadas? Porqué piden que Xiao Zhan gestione a sus fans si Wang Yibo no lo hace?
Why do many people hate the kindest,pure talented Yushuxin.Just hating a person based on her personality and voice is astonishing to me because we live in a world where billions of people have billions of personalities and hating someone just because of her pure nature and voice is just not human anymore.Yushuxin did not kill anyone nor did she hurt anyone but because of her personality and voice speculating such hate comments and videos about her and this video admin replying with 💯is just pure hate at this level.
Please learn to be kind and respectful.
Next people hate her because she is rich which later,all her achievements are credited to her having rich parents and rich resources while in reality her parents are in no way related to ent.industry.if this was the truth she would've been a liulang actress by now since she debuted way back in 2015/16 or maybe earlier and now its already been 8/9 years and have 6/7 main lead roles and 2 more yet to be released (S n S+) which are all in A/A+/S level dramas which later some becomes S+as it does well while comparing to those who have real backup resources releases 2 to 3 dramas in a year and some actresses those who debuted in the same year or debuted after Yushuxin has 20+ main lead dramas in their hands.So guess who are the ones with huge capital backup?Yet some people just on their pure hate towards her continue spreading hate and lies🤡.
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Many are paid to troll people online. It's a business.
Same netzens who ship idols who appear slightly friendly to each other criticize them for keeping their distance to prevent misunderstandings. I feel sorry for what their so called die hard fans put them through. GET A LIFE and stop obsessing about how other people live their's. Love or hate their dramas if you choose but please STOP being toxic live and let live ! Celebrity or not they also deserve peace, love, happiness. If God granted all human beings free will, why are mere mortals fighting to force their will onto others. Let them date who they want, smoke or drink if they want, marry and have kids if they want to publicly....real fans should love them regardless, once it's nothing illegal.
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None of us know any of them personally so none of us can give accurate judgement of their true relationship. Modern technology exists, if they keep in contact behind the screen then we wont know about it
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I like your comments. Yes, we shouldn't assume anything since we didn't know them personally.
It's the 21st century and humans have not learnt anything about relationships between adults. Years ago I learned from someone wiser than I that being respected is more important than being liked. They are actors and professionals. As long as they do their job well, who cares. Also, as a member of Gen X these actors are doing what I call 'roasting'. Good natured insults are natural. That's the problem with social credit scores and Netizens. Good grief, grow up Chinese movie fans.
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@@Chinesestarbuzz Thank you for reading my comment. 😊😘
It's easy to forget that many online critics are paid to cause bad drama. There are companies that do bad publicity campaigns against competing stars.
People just overeacted to Xu and Yu 😂 Ofcourse Xu Kai can't say anything about Tan's weight because she is his senior. But he has the privilege as friend to comment on Yu's. Just watch the sword and fairy bts, they are perfectly fine.
And for anyone saying Yu acts childish, listen it's her personality not pretending to. Just watch her on Youth With You program.
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They're human too.. sometimes it'shown on their face.. one is charming, anf the other is annoying.. what can you do in the name of professionalism and off course the payment.. hehe.
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Xu Kai should respect any woman, not just who he chooses.
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*I saw a video on Weibo where it is actually Wang Yibo who mocks and belittles Xiao Zhan because, according to him, he is indeed an idol. What Xiao Zhan wasn't at that time. On the other hand, the rudeness went from side to side, I don't know if that was his way of talking to each other, but Wang Yibo was not far behind. Yes, Wang Yibo was very petulant to Xiao Zhan because he was the popular one in the entertainment industry. He also slapped Xiao Zhan in the face. It's another thing for Wang Yibo's fans to defend him, but as an international audience, I see that Xiao Zhan is more polite than Wang Yibo. On the other hand, they were young and the behavior of both of them is pure immaturity*
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I don’t know what video you’ve seen but you’re definitely misunderstood. WangYibo “mocks” 😜 WangYibo take good care of Xiao Zhan and vice versa. And I’m so sure you’re talking about the bts of the Untamed. They along with other cast members they usually goof around hitting one another and doing all sort of silly stuffs. In an interview, an interviewer was asked about their constant hitting ma when Yibo replied since a lot of scenes were shot at night they usually hit one another to wake up or freshen up one another. Xiao Zhan and WangYibo has always been good friends. If at all, they’re not good friends, why would Yibo invite Zhange to attend Day day up 10th special Anniversary? And Zhange showed up. It was because of that incident they no longer interact, people should know in general that it was neither Xiaozhan nor WangYibo’s fault, in fact it has nothing to do with Zhange or Yibo.My point is they’re good friends and will forever be. 😌
You forget zhao lusi and leo wu..🤣🤣🤣
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Now my curiosity still lays with xukai and bailu. They both acted for 2 projects and now they never in one stage/anything anymore
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I never believe what media n content creator told about actors life behind the screen 100% correct specialy negative one, sometimes they made it up / set it up just to gain followers , sometimes the fans n media also get over reaction or over publiced unimportant rumors about em also just to gain their rate audience. Its not fair for everyone who get the bad impact of it. Unles they r not make confirmation or clarification directly , everything r just rumors/gossip. Have positive thinking about everyone is nice thing to do.
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Wangxian? I dont think so.
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Those who are crying that Gong Jun didn't step up...like wtf...do you guys think life is some movie where we ffight for justice for each other? Did you expect him to go against the whole Chinese industry and fight for his costar who even said that they weren't friends😂😂lol...
He's not obligated to speak out for anyone and just cause Zhang Zhehan (who i also love) stopped acting doesnt mean Gong Jun has to make up for him
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Sorry but you don’t seem to be aware of what actually happened. Gong Jun is indeed responsible for his costar being blackballed from the industry. I have lost all respect for him. It’s a long involved story. Let’s just say Gong Jun has powerful friends in the industry. Last I heard, ZZ was filing s lawsuit which got the go ahead. Don’t know what came of it.
@@leecox6241 but these are all conspiracies that everyone came up with that differ from source to source. These so called powerful people Gong Jun knows....its ridiculous that you all can say that when Gong Jun literally dragged himself through years of starring in unknown lo budget shows and having no shows at all although he entered the industry a while back. Word of Honor, the hit which finally propelled him to his fame literally had a ridiculous budget and was sponsored by a nut company....everyone had practically declared it a flop at that point.
Where were Gong Jun's top friends then? People will literally come with the weirdest things.
I know the story...till this day Word of Honor is one of my favorite stories and i followed it a lot back then. Zhang Zhehan did claim that someone was trying to block him but deciding it was Gong Jun from that is weird and you must not have had any respect for him at all...which is quite honestly your prerogative.
Zhang Zhehan said Gong Jun's company where using him for sales by shipping them....that's honestly ......Word of Honor was Gong Jun's first hit. He had the right to milk it for all its worth. Its basically the top of his portfolio...was he supposed to shelf it? Be lowkey? What!
Exactly! As said above, he was suffering the same and trying to cope with that toxic aftermath of WoH himself. In a system like that you keep your mouth shut.🤐 Did any other actor from WoH speak up? Look at what happened to the person who did! 😕It is sad what happened to ZZH but don't smear GJ 🙏
@@Andyyy700thank you 🙏👍
Love Yang Yang!
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Everyone knows who instigated the trouble for Xiao Zhan.
Who? I'm interested
His fans
@@sscarhead NO there is a plot twist in this story which got buried forever and no one will ever find this it's same experience of that drama series which is popular till now acted in 19
His own fans. Don't even go about mentioning a person
No you are wrong not his fans but some haters if you don't know the truth then don't talk
Have watched various BTS clips and reports about Hollywood movies and such. While a production is being made, the actors often bond to some extent because of their role interactions but it's not maintained once the production is over. It's a lot to expect of people who are just doing a job, sometimes more than one movie/drama per year. How are they supposed to become friends with everyone?! If they can be professional and not turn into "drama queens" while on set, isn't that enough to ask for? Any lasting relationships are bonuses and not guaranteed. And sometimes, even when all is well between two performers, sometimes one or both could just be having a bad day for an event, making something out of nothing.
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Y'all get off of Xu Kai's back... and his foot. 😅😅😅
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I really love Zhang zeham in word of honor and i enjoy his music. Zhang zeham is a winner. I have no interest in any other Chinese actor. They are so lifeless compared to Zhang zeham.
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IMO, I think Yang Yang is still into his first love, Li Qin. I once read that when he and LQ were at the beginning of their careers, it was Li Qin's parents or agent who made them break up because they wanted LQ to focus on building her career. At that time, LQ was shining in her career and mostly got positions as lead actress, while YY at that time still got positions as a supporting actor. After they broke up, it seems like YY tried to reach the top, and he is successful now and wants to show and prove himself to LQ that he is more successful than her and can conquer women with his good looks and people even call him a playboy. Until now, it seems like YY and LQ have never spoken to each other even though they met at the same event, and it's hard to hope that they can work together again, even though at the start of their careers they often worked together in several dramas. And LQ is an actress who is famous for being very secretive and careful in living her personal life and trying to avoid all gossip and scandals.
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YY had a few gfs after li qin ..latest one is Wang Churan .. a few melons said they broke up but WCRs still trying to be with him ..
Number 2 and 4 Just Crazy..........
The minutes to Promote the drama seems eternity for them.......
They Can't stand one another 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What a Mess....
Yea. Ikr!
интересно,интересно......спс за инфу ☺
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The love life of the beautiful people is not so beautiful after all!
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If they have chemistry which the director needs, so to get good ratings, but then fans believe they're dating.
Otherwise if they're not, their acting is criticised, and the drama is a flop.
These fans with the obsession for these dramas need clearly to get a life.
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2:30 Zhang jiyi was being unprofessiona; with her responses
@@cdtkabag139 I was amused by her 😂
Yang Yang and everyone 🤣
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Wow, you just liked a comment hating on XZ and calling him rude. Never thought this channel was a Xiao Zhan hater.
The "like" is to show appreciation for commenting and support for our channel. It doesn't mean we hate Xiaozhan. Spread ❤️
@@Chinesestarbuzz and the 💯 reply?
@@suarezannalyn7469 Acknowledgement
@@Chinesestarbuzz lol. Sure.
@@Chinesestarbuzz Ups!
YY can only depend on CP to sell his work, he can’t act. 😅
few years back, I was one of yangyang's fan. Solely because of his look. been enjoying his works at that time. But now, when I watched his dramas again, I realized that his acting was quite awkward. And now, I only watch his dramas for the sake of the story line and his FL.
Agree! He is cute but he can’t act same with his girlfriend.
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Who's CP? Who's is Yang yangs girlfriend?
@@goldHydrangeas churan something
4 the guy was straight up disrespectful
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What exactly is the gong jun scandal
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It's not Gong Jun's scandal. Leave him out if it 🙏 at the time he was slandered & he suffered just the same.😢 Luckily he survived. As someone said in a comment before if you know his personality just a bit you wouldn't believe these accusations. You don't like actors, dont watch their dramas! no need to slander them 🙏
@@kuessdaspony9584 I'm sorry if it sounded offensive. I've watched more of his shows like word of honor and love equations as compared to the other actor that's why I referred to it as Gong Jun s scandal
Xu and Yu have sooooo much in common, though! They both think sticking a frozen face in the camera is ‘acting’, both a w f u l! Advice to actors: if you do not want the world to know you are gay, do not comment on looks! Yang Yang and Gong Yun in love scenes resemble dentists at work, sorry.
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Remember that every scene and shot is controlled by the director. He/she tells them exactly how to express to the camera. If he/she doesn't like it, they reshoot. Blame the director.
and the poor boy is not handsome at all if you compare him to other chinese actors
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Who cares. That’s between the actors
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#9 Is spot on. Unfortunately.
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Nonsense! ZZH was banned for the photos he took and posted himself in 2018. Scapegoating an innocent person to gain public sympathy doesn't change the fact.
@@gracenana8538 they are slandering Simon in every video of zzh scandal , such sick people
You speak nonsense
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Never liked gongjun after that incident he ignore everything as if he is innocent but his acting is mediocre beside his role with ZZH
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You wanted him to say what?
When I heard that first time.. I was also wondering why he did that, But then I realised.. ZZH, who is banned bcoz he took a picture infront of Yasukuni Shrine where Chinese War criminals/victims were buried so they say he is mocking Chinese people or something to that effect, imagine Simon G saying anything to support next thing you know he will attacked also... Cnetizens thinks they are in Charge of their Idols Life...
I have this feeling that none of Esther Yu really likes her very much, she is too clingy and too eager to sell her CP, she is plain annoying.
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Omg, yes.. I can’t watch her drama, she have a normal deep voice but she keep insisting on her baby talk.
You speak nonsense😂
Lol,Maybe only the kind of you hate her.
And with regard to selling CP I can guarantee She is among the few actresses that does not rely on CP at all.All of her dramas except LBFAD that was also minimal promotion as iit was a black horse.All of her other dramas had no CP promotion at all like literally zero promo.Even her dramas in whole are barely promoted do u think she will try to sell her CP?
So don't try to speak such nonsense.If you follow her dramas than you will know don't just assume and believe ur own delulu and spew hate on Yushuxin uncesserily.
And if u don't like her u don't have to follow her like a stalker and assume and believe on our own understanding about Yushuxin,just leave her alone and stop spreading misinformation.
Media loves her. She's been 2 years Sohu good list. Her co-actors praises her a lot. It's just the girlfriends fans of actors who is so immature to accept it.
Don't believe
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I think they're no longer talking to each other because of a few reasons, 227, XZ disrespect Wang Yibo for calling him stupid and crazy for his love of motorcycle racing, also was annoyed of Wang Yibo shared happenings in Produce 101 experienced, photos and stickers in that shows, called Wang Yibo a show off during one of the interviews. During the filming of the UT behind-the-scenes, XZ yelled out during the break, got up lifted his custom outfit in front on Wang Yibo's face throwing insult, Wang Yibo literally was shocked and looked away with a disgusted smile. On one of their UT promotional tour rude XZ looked down on Wang Yibo's crotch, made a comment that made Wang Yibo uncomfortable, retorts to XZ while fixing his front pants in front of the audience watching. Unprofessional attitude XZ just making faces and fanning his own face... Wang Yibo is well mannered man and still a boy at heart, was 19 going 20 in a few months, unsophisticated XZ was 26 years. Now Wang Yibo is so elegantly handsome gentlemen and wiser that of XZ.
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Wang yibo who was 19 going to turn 20 who is innocent and completely lost his innocence and a poor guy who got bullied on set in behind the scenes is now 26. Rich, successful, active, got to be with the rude guy xiaozhan but you are just a fan who is only able to see ur idol 2000 km away isn't the world unfair?
They were instantly connected the moment they met why do you think it was fast it was first because of xz he pulled out yibo to be comfortable with him. Have u seen initial best friends turn into so n so friends because they felt exhausted at some point?
First, Wang Yibo turned 21 during the filming of "Untamed" and celebrated his 21st birthday with his colleagues un the SET and Xiao Zhan gave him a helmet. Second, if Wang yibo had felt bad or uncomfortable with Xiao zhan he would not talk to him or smile, as he usually does with most people. Third, the scene where xiao zhan laughs because yibo shares his memes where he is handsome is the same one where wang yibo makes fun of xiao zhan because at 27 years old he took photos pouting with his mouth and he laughs so much at zhan that he even says that photo as wallpaper of the conversation between the two. Finally, in China it is frowned upon to show the bulge in a man's crotch, so Zhan looked at Yibo and told him to settle down because he saw journalists taking photos, Yibo settled down and didn't complain, even after settling in he asked him if he was okay and zhan told him yes, I clarify that I know how to speak Chinese... I don't get carried away by gossip or biased translations.
@Chinesestarbuzz read the comments before replying or I'll think you're a hater like the person who wrote the original comment.😂
Vi un video en Weibo donde en realidad es Wang Yibo el que se burla y menosprecia a Xiao Zhan porque según él, si es un ídolo. Lo que no era Xiao Zhan en ese momento. Por otra parte la grosería iba de parte y parte, no sé si esa era su forma de hablarse pero Wang Yibo no se quedó atrás. Si, Wang Yibo era muy petulante con Xiao Zhan porque era el popular en la industria del entretenimiento. También le hizo muecas a Xiao Zhan solapadamente. Otra cosa es que los fans de Wang Yibo lo defiendan, pero como público internacional, veo que Xiao Zhan es más educado que Wang Yibo. Por otra parte, eran jóvenes y ese comportamiento de los dos, es pura inmadurez