I engineered an E-8A on the KLS&C in the early 1990s. The number was 95. We used it to pull our Wine Country Dinner Train. There is a short video of this train on You Tube. 95 was an ex CNW unit. I do not know its road number from that time. It had also been used in Chicago on Metra. It was kind of a beast to operate between the high speed gearing and our train speed of 5 MPH. I was proud to be qualified to engineer 95. I was nearing age 40 at the time and realized when she was in her prime, I would have been a decade or two too young to have the seniority to be her engineer. Sadly in our use the #1 traction motor fried and the #2 prime mover seized a bearing. I understand she was scrapped later. Still, I am proud to have the cab time running a classic E-8A locomotive.
When I was a teenager I use to ride the headend of our passenger trains with my father who was an engineer. They ran both E and F units. Then when I first hired out on the Texas and Pacific as a fireman we were still running some F-7s. I was promoted to engineer 8 months later and then ran the F-7s as an engineer. They did not last much longer as they were pretty much worn out. So much so that in some, the air compressors would not keep up with allowable train line leakage while idling. Usually had to place the reverser in neutral and advance the throttle to notch 3 or 4. Later after I retired I was involved with the rebuilt of a Mikado Steam Locomotive and some vintage passenger cars and was a qualified Engineer and Fireman on it. Being and engineer on 3 class 1 railroads, due to two mergers but same territory, was actually a lot of fun most of the time. I did not care for switching jobs. But we had a 196 and 233 mile devision with a 60 MPH max speed limit. But running the Steam engine was a lot more fun, even with also working on the maintenance side too. We all wore a lot of hats.
That is so awesome Sir! Thank you for your railroading which moved America. I have always been fascinated by machines since I was a little boy. Trains were, and are still a passion with me. I remember becoming emotional in the 70's when our railroads were in trouble. Thank you for your service on our Country's rails!
@@mikemiura7740 There is a short video of 95 in action on You Tube. Just do a search using KLS&C. I engineered all of the engines in the videos at one time or another. As a model railroader, this was a great opportunity to do it for real. It was both fun, but when you have up to 200 people on the train, it is something you have to take most seriously.
I'm glad to hear they are restoring that ol girl! I'd still take her prom! Those EMD F/E diesels are such an important part of diesel railroading history, it deserves a restoration. Seeing as there's only a handful in the wild now, it is justified. I don't care what airplane guy says!
I feel that E8 is more than worth restoring. Several years ago I got to touch the nose on a UP running F unit in San Antonio, Texas. The restored F unit was coupled in lead of the restored steam Big Boy. It was an awesome experience. I say let's restore that E8! C'mon VW! For railroad history's sake to show our young ones!
Last year we stopped in Virginia, C&O Museum Gift shop in Clifton Forge, it has some old Locomotives that need restoration too!!! F units both A and B units almost at the automobile bridge amungst the weeds and overgrowth!!! Best of Luck on the project they are looking at for restoration!!!
They are working on a bunch of them from time to time. They use them for freight moves and excursions . The E8 is really a loss to rebuild but I am glad they have decided to do it anyway !! It has not started yet we will see what will happen. It really is fun to walk the yards and see all the old diesels though !!
I remember seeing an E8 come through Onward, Indiana in the mid 70's. It was pulling a very short consist. It ended up being parked at 18th St. yard in Logansport, Indiana for about 35 years. It did end up at a museum, but cannot recall which one. Awesome Vid Mark!! ☺️👍
The E8 needs a restoration. Maybe it could be used for excursion service on their heritage railway? I can't wait for the restoration to finish up. I dont care what people think about the restoration, Its still historically important. Good luck WVRRM on the restoration of B&O #92.
*Buddy, they've got some really skilled craftsmen left in this country... Might have to move her to one of those shops. They'd strip her down to the frame, cut and shape the outer skin... Even the prime mover could be rebuilt and made operational again. In England they have recued and made operational several rusting scrap steam locomotives and brought them back to life!*
There are some really skilled people here in this shop . They do send out some things to be reformed or such but they have done some incredible work here on other engines
I live right here and am just to busy !! I hope to have some time for helping . In any case I hope to visit the shop and document some of the restoration !!
Is there an engine and internals? There is a great little railroad museum, The Historic Railpark and Train Museum in Bowling Green KY. They have a well maintained example but no engine or internals. They would be interested in fitting out their loco to be more complete. They do have sponsors with $$$.
The money is here to rebuild this one . I know its far gone but the state hade the decision to rebuild it . It is in need of prime movers as well. It will probably end up being a static display .
Thanks for watching !! The Steam loco is a 2-8-0-> The boiler is no good and may be a static display some day at her native railroad . Her sister is being rebuilt and should be in service some day soon.
A lot of work, time and money needed to restore that locomotive, even just for display purposes, let alone running order. You will probably need a second unit for parts. Unless you can get outside funding, hard to get for even rare locomotives, it will a long haul ahead for them Stew.
Where are you getting all this information about this locomotive and current DGVR operations? All of the information as far as DGVR operations go is outdated.
I live in Belington WVA . The engine facility That I am talking about is a mile from my house . I am also a small stock holder in the railroad . The info in this video came from local news .
@@stewsstructures83 I started restoration work on L & N E6 #770 for the Kentucky railway Museum. 770 was built in 1942. The floor of the loco was almost rotted out. Side panels and lower framing rotted or gone. Your E8 looks in worse shape and I thought KRM treated loco's bad. I no longer do work for them. Get with museum in Strasburg PA. They have a PRR E8 that looks great. I think way too much money and time on your loco.
I see a lot of people saying this is a waste of time and money ect, however I think doing a static restoration would be a good idea but making it run would be a pain.
I understand people's comments . It is a large project. But there has been other projects they have restored in the past . They are good at what they do.
The Durbin and Greenbrier RR operates 3 Railroads in Wva . Cass , which is a steam logging Railroad which gives scenic rides. The Durbin Rocket which is steam . And the Tygart flier which is a diesel operation.
I've always thought how much of the restored locomotive is new and how much old. Is the final product a replication of the original E8? Rust here and there is one thing but this looks to me like you'd need all new sheet metal side panels and maybe even struts. I cannot believe why somebody in town did not raise some cash to cover it or find an indoor resting place. Such a waste.
That loco is NOT worth touching. You need to find one that is worth restoring. Apparently you do not understand how to evaluate a old obsolete loco for restoration. I went through this with many people while restoring Viet Nam era jet aircraft for restoration them to airworthy condition. Just because you like that old loco does not mean its a candidate for restoration.
Brother in crist locomotives are very different from air frames... locomotives can take a hell of a beating and still be restored. Hell I've working on locomotives my self that have been in that condition that have fired right up. Given I had to replace the fuel filters, new fuel, replace ground cables ect... all new fuses but it did operate. O yah and the air system was on the fritz but still it operated to an agree.
This is normal to us in rail preservation. There is a limited number of covered wagon style diesels remaining, nobody is giving up their beautiful ones, so if you want one you need to do the work. The side panels are completely disposable. Two iron workers working full time can weld repair the "fuselage" structure in a year or less. Everything else is basic EMD diesel stuff which probably needs a crane. The same amount of money put in to restoring the E8 could buy a 70s era road switcher or two, but people don't to a museum to see or ride that.
Like any classic that's been neglected for a decade or few after it's Amtrack gig. Still people must understand normal people can't comprehend what some might find as a simple project with enough backing and more expertise. Big money will make it happen or it won't ...
I engineered an E-8A on the KLS&C in the early 1990s. The number was 95. We used it to pull our Wine Country Dinner Train. There is a short video of this train on You Tube. 95 was an ex CNW unit. I do not know its road number from that time. It had also been used in Chicago on Metra. It was kind of a beast to operate between the high speed gearing and our train speed of 5 MPH. I was proud to be qualified to engineer 95. I was nearing age 40 at the time and realized when she was in her prime, I would have been a decade or two too young to have the seniority to be her engineer.
Sadly in our use the #1 traction motor fried and the #2 prime mover seized a bearing. I understand she was scrapped later.
Still, I am proud to have the cab time running a classic E-8A locomotive.
Thanks for the message and for Watching !!!
When I was a teenager I use to ride the headend of our passenger trains with my father who was an engineer. They ran both E and F units. Then when I first hired out on the Texas and Pacific as a fireman we were still running some F-7s. I was promoted to engineer 8 months later and then ran the F-7s as an engineer. They did not last much longer as they were pretty much worn out. So much so that in some, the air compressors would not keep up with allowable train line leakage while idling. Usually had to place the reverser in neutral and advance the throttle to notch 3 or 4. Later after I retired I was involved with the rebuilt of a Mikado Steam Locomotive and some vintage passenger cars and was a qualified Engineer and Fireman on it.
Being and engineer on 3 class 1 railroads, due to two mergers but same territory, was actually a lot of fun most of the time. I did not care for switching jobs. But we had a 196 and 233 mile devision with a 60 MPH max speed limit. But running the Steam engine was a lot more fun, even with also working on the maintenance side too. We all wore a lot of hats.
That is so awesome Sir! Thank you for your railroading which moved America. I have always been fascinated by machines since I was a little boy. Trains were, and are still a passion with me. I remember becoming emotional in the 70's when our railroads were in trouble. Thank you for your service on our Country's rails!
@@mikemiura7740 There is a short video of 95 in action on You Tube. Just do a search using KLS&C. I engineered all of the engines in the videos at one time or another. As a model railroader, this was a great opportunity to do it for real. It was both fun, but when you have up to 200 people on the train, it is something you have to take most seriously.
I'm glad to hear they are restoring that ol girl! I'd still take her prom! Those EMD F/E diesels are such an important part of diesel railroading history, it deserves a restoration. Seeing as there's only a handful in the wild now, it is justified. I don't care what airplane guy says!
Thanks for watching !!! They have restored several f units here . And some of the work they have done has been really amazing !!
I feel that E8 is more than worth restoring. Several years ago I got to touch the nose on a UP running F unit in San Antonio, Texas. The restored F unit was coupled in lead of the restored steam Big Boy. It was an awesome experience. I say let's restore that E8! C'mon VW! For railroad history's sake to show our young ones!
Sorry. I meant West Virginia! We love you anyway❤!
I am trying to get to the shop and find out more info. They have been out working on other sites last week. Thanks for watching !!!
Last year we stopped in Virginia, C&O Museum Gift shop in Clifton Forge, it has some old Locomotives that need restoration too!!! F units both A and B units almost at the automobile bridge amungst the weeds and overgrowth!!! Best of Luck on the project they are looking at for restoration!!!
Thank you and thanks for watching !!
Very interesting video Stew, it would be nice to restore all these old locomotives
They are working on a bunch of them from time to time. They use them for freight moves and excursions . The E8 is really a loss to rebuild but I am glad they have decided to do it anyway !! It has not started yet we will see what will happen. It really is fun to walk the yards and see all the old diesels though !!
I remember seeing an E8 come through Onward, Indiana in the mid 70's. It was pulling a very short consist.
It ended up being parked at 18th St. yard in Logansport, Indiana for about 35 years. It did end up at a museum, but cannot recall which one.
Awesome Vid Mark!!
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It was a beauty in it's day !!!
There is an operating E8 Southern #6900 at the NC Transportation Museum in Spencer NC
Thanks for watching !!!
The E8 needs a restoration. Maybe it could be used for excursion service on their heritage railway? I can't wait for the restoration to finish up. I dont care what people think about the restoration, Its still historically important. Good luck WVRRM on the restoration of B&O #92.
Thank you for the comment and for watching !!
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It needs to be done . The So. Calif. Rwy museum has a gorgeous operational U.P. EMD E8 that was restored there . 👍
Thanks for the comment and for watching !!!
*Buddy, they've got some really skilled craftsmen left in this country... Might have to move her to one of those shops. They'd strip her down to the frame, cut and shape the outer skin... Even the prime mover could be rebuilt and made operational again. In England they have recued and made operational several rusting scrap steam locomotives and brought them back to life!*
There are some really skilled people here in this shop . They do send out some things to be reformed or such but they have done some incredible work here on other engines
@@stewsstructures83 *Well, that's good to know... Bottom line, all is not lost. Wish I was a billionaire. Would love funding these types of projects*
A nice presentation.
Just found your channel, very cool! That E8 got my attention. I think there's a restored EA in the B&O Museum shop currently.
Thanks for watching !!! There is a EA yes it is more significant to history than this one . Gut this one would still be nice to save !!
Interesting video and thanks for sharing. Dave
Thanks for watching !!
A short video for this week Another build will start next week !!
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The prime movers can be rebuilt as well as the other components.
I have not been able to catch the guys at the shops yet . I will find out more on the scope of the rebuild as soon as I can ! Thanks for watching !!
I have traveled on American railroads ever. I’m ashamed of my not having had that experience in my 66 years of life!!
No shame in that. Its heyday was in the 40s. I traveled cross-country a few times in the 60s and it was no picnic. Now... fagedaboudit!
If I lived closer, I'd volunteer.
I live right here and am just to busy !! I hope to have some time for helping . In any case I hope to visit the shop and document some of the restoration !!
Is there an engine and internals? There is a great little railroad museum, The Historic Railpark and Train Museum in Bowling Green KY. They have a well maintained example but no engine or internals. They would be interested in fitting out their loco to be more complete. They do have sponsors with $$$.
The money is here to rebuild this one . I know its far gone but the state hade the decision to rebuild it . It is in need of prime movers as well. It will probably end up being a static display .
It would take a mountain of money to get it back on the rails.
"Rust never sleeps"!
man I wish I lived closer, I'm in Pa
I live a couple miles away and I am not sure how to find the time to do anything .. Life is always in the way !!! Thanks for watching !!!
Hopefully the prime mover can be rebuilt.
I am hoping as well. As soon as I can get in touch with the guys in the shop I will have an update as to particulars I hope . Thanks for watching !!!
Interesting video sir. Good luck on the E8. Also what's the steam engine behind the E8?
Thanks for watching !! The Steam loco is a 2-8-0-> The boiler is no good and may be a static display some day at her native railroad . Her sister is being rebuilt and should be in service some day soon.
A lot of work, time and money needed to restore that locomotive, even just for display purposes, let alone running order. You will probably need a second unit for parts. Unless you can get outside funding, hard to get for even rare locomotives, it will a long haul ahead for them Stew.
Agreed it is a daunting task. Although I have watched them rebuild some other diesils almost as bad . Thanks for watching !!!
Where are you getting all this information about this locomotive and current DGVR operations? All of the information as far as DGVR operations go is outdated.
I live in Belington WVA . The engine facility That I am talking about is a mile from my house . I am also a small stock holder in the railroad . The info in this video came from local news .
Your hat looks exactly like mine.
That hat has been around a long time 11 just one of my many lifes hats LOL. Thanks for watching !!!!
E units had 2 prime movers. Good luck.
Thanks for watching !!
@@stewsstructures83 I started restoration work on L & N E6 #770 for the Kentucky railway Museum. 770 was built in 1942. The floor of the loco was almost rotted out. Side panels and lower framing rotted or gone. Your E8 looks in worse shape and I thought KRM treated loco's bad. I no longer do work for them. Get with museum in Strasburg PA. They have a PRR E8 that looks great. I think way too much money and time on your loco.
@@Parktonman😅
You only need one to make it pull.
Up has a couple of e8 or e9,
I think the pulled both prime movers and replaced it with one modern prime and mechanicals
It has stage 4 cancer ..... I'm not sure if Chemotherapy will work ... 😔
I have watched the crew here restore similar cancer on other engines . It is do able !
@@stewsstructures83 I really do hope so because that was a gorgeous locomotive in its time
This is beyond restoration. It's almost beyond being even minimally a "parts locomotive" for another restoration.
I see a lot of people saying this is a waste of time and money ect, however I think doing a static restoration would be a good idea but making it run would be a pain.
I understand people's comments . It is a large project. But there has been other projects they have restored in the past . They are good at what they do.
@@stewsstructures83 true I hope everything goes well!
Are these railroads steam railroads? I very much prefer steam to diesel when it comes to trains!!
The Durbin and Greenbrier RR operates 3 Railroads in Wva . Cass , which is a steam logging Railroad which gives scenic rides. The Durbin Rocket which is steam . And the Tygart flier which is a diesel operation.
Good luck hope they have a big bank account.
It will all be done in house by incredible people that have done a lot of stuff to their diesel collection
I've always thought how much of the restored locomotive is new and how much old. Is the final product a replication of the original E8? Rust here and there is one thing but this looks to me like you'd need all new sheet metal side panels and maybe even struts. I cannot believe why somebody in town did not raise some cash to cover it or find an indoor resting place. Such a waste.
Thanks for watching !!
It's a big restoration. BUT it could be done. There are people who could do it.
It will be done in house by gifted people that work there !!!
Bondo!
Thanks for watching !!!
Hey stew my name is stewart also.
Glad you found my video !! Thanks for watching !! Us Stewarts need to stick together !
Try to get a donation set up , and guys that. Donate time .
I am sure every thing is in the works for donations etc. Ill post more when the time comes !!
This restoration is a waste of time
That loco is NOT worth touching. You need to find one that is worth restoring. Apparently you do not understand how to evaluate a old obsolete loco for restoration. I went through this with many people while restoring Viet Nam era jet aircraft for restoration them to airworthy condition. Just because you like that old loco does not mean its a candidate for restoration.
The question . What you think has value and what your will to do.
Brother in crist locomotives are very different from air frames... locomotives can take a hell of a beating and still be restored. Hell I've working on locomotives my self that have been in that condition that have fired right up. Given I had to replace the fuel filters, new fuel, replace ground cables ect... all new fuses but it did operate. O yah and the air system was on the fritz but still it operated to an agree.
This is normal to us in rail preservation. There is a limited number of covered wagon style diesels remaining, nobody is giving up their beautiful ones, so if you want one you need to do the work. The side panels are completely disposable. Two iron workers working full time can weld repair the "fuselage" structure in a year or less. Everything else is basic EMD diesel stuff which probably needs a crane. The same amount of money put in to restoring the E8 could buy a 70s era road switcher or two, but people don't to a museum to see or ride that.
My friend theres steam locomotives that have been in far worse condition then this diesel and they were still brought back to operation.
@@RailPreserver2K far far worse...
There should no problem finding a 645 prime mover .progess rail .
The E-8s had two 567 12 cylinder prime movers.
UP did rebuild their E9s with a single 645. Basically, it's a 40 series cab unit.
Like any classic that's been neglected for a decade or few after it's Amtrack gig.
Still people must understand normal people can't comprehend what some might find as a simple project with enough backing and more expertise.
Big money will make it happen or it won't
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