Shatterstar is and has always been one of my favorite X-Men characters! I always knew that his ans Longshot's backstory was extremely complicated... to say the least. But I guess I forgot just how complicated, crazy, and convoluted their backstory really was! But hey, that's comics for you.
I think the most complicated backstories come about when you have several different creators iterating on each other's work. Longshot was created by Ann Nocenti in 1985, Chris Claremont made him an X-man from 1986-1989, then Scott Lobdell, Fabian Niciesza and John Byrne all iterated on the Mojoverse and Longshot's savior mythology during the 90s. But it wasn't until 2008 that Peter David tied all their loose ends together and canonized the time loop.
Longshot one my fav heroes as a youth. I felt his pain in Inferno and how much he stood out and saved everyone ion the end. He was a lost shattered soul but deep down he was the best.
MM never disappoints. The deep dives to truly appreciate the entirety of the Marvel Universe 🤙🏼 There is only one person I trust to explain time travel/other universe travel in Marvel, that's MM
Longshot is one of my favorite Xmen. More please. Thank you for connecting his hippity hoppity history. I never noticed... do you folks site what issues your stories are found?
More of the 80's X-Men characters would be awesome. I was born in the mid-80s, so it was already the 90s by the time I started reading comics on a regular basis, so I was mainly following 90s Marvel as a kid. However, my family went to tons of yard sales, so I would often just get random issues of 80s books and not really know who a lot of the characters were. I grew to like Longshot, Dazzler, and the Excalibur team and stuff based on the issues I read, but I didn't have hardly any context for who they even were.
Shatterstar being named Shatterstar by his parents who were inspired by Shatterstar from the future, just for his parents memories to be erased by Shatterstar, and him sent into the future before learning his name, just for him to coincidentally name himself Shatterstar in the future is the most grownworthy part of this to me.
Man! Great job making this make sense. That's not an easy task, there were so many teams and books that crossed over with all the others so almost every plot point is important. You're the best at what you do ✌🏻👍🏻
Very nice work on this bio, sir. Longshot is a severely underused, (dare i say misused, as well) character, who is just waiting for a solo story on par with his original limited series. Which is a massive ask, considering it was created by the young and firing on all cylinders Adams and Nocenti (and if i recall correctly,with inks by Portacio, even!) That said, i have been working on that very story on and off over the years, just as a fun, conceptual exercise... But this is inspiring me to tighten up and finish the project so Marvel can underpay me and sell the overcharged books. (Just a cynical joke, there. Brevoort, give us a call when you've got the time to spare from steering the leaky boat named "X books" away from the ideological icebergs and into safe waters.) 😉✌️
Shatterstar.. one of my favorite characters growing up such a badass name and not too mention the double bladed sword mannn the 90’s came out with the best hero’s
One of Deadpool's first fights in comics was against Shatterstar, around this time. DP attacked SS right after his training sesssion, so SS wasn't at his best...and was defeated by DP. I have all these comics...''91 and '92 were crazy years for all the new & varying mutant teams 😊
Dude, that is awesome you still have them. Alas, mine are gone. I remember buying those comics back then and thinking, "I'll make sure I don't end up like kids in the 60s who's moms threw out their comics." And she didnt 😅, but they still ended up growing legs and walking out sometime around 2008.
Great video. You know how back in the day Joe Quesada banned resurrections for a short period? I would love to see a temporary moratorium on time travel and multiverse stories. It would certainly simplify things for a while.
Are you going to do history of lesser known characters like Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Ultimo, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Flerken, Blacklash, Deathlok, Elematrix, Vertigo, Ahab, Orb, Speed freak, Masked Raider, Red_Wolf, Tarantula, Forge, Bishop, Lilandra, Adam-X, Sybil(Oracle), Titanium_Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dreadknight, Deathcry, Kobik AKA the Cosmic Cube, Blizzard, Avril Kincaid Quasar, Starbrand, Nightmask, Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Starhawk, Fixer, Whirlwind, Chemistro, Whiplash, the Controller, Madam_Masque, Count_Nefaria, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
I love the idea of the character but Rita Ricochet is just so confusing best to just initially think of her as Spiral “time looped” and not think about her odd backstory
What's up with Spiral being the future version of the fellow actress who worked with Longshot on a movie who ended up being tortured by Mojo? How's she compared to Magik?
Can you do history of the Living_Brain, the Elementals, Cyclone, Hydro Man, Molten Man, Puck, Ahab, Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Noh-Varr Marvel_Boy, Starbrand, Nightmask, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
Can you do history of Ironheart, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Arno_Stark Iron Man, Squirrel_Girl, Constrictor, Deathlok, Amadeus_Cho, the Griever, Pepper Potts AKA Rescue and the Agents of Atlas along with Crescent, Morgan_Le_Fey, White Fox and Luna Snow?
Can you do history of the Elementals(Hellfire, Magnum, Hydron and Zephyr), Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Night Nurse, Lilandra, Sybil(Oracle), Marrow, Lady-Lotus, Sundragon and Phyla_Vell along with the Supreme Intelligence, Puppet_Master, Diablo, Mad Thinker and Angel Salvador/Tempest along with Exodus and Ex-Nhilo?
Are you going to do history of Ironheart, M'Baku, Namora, Attuma and Shuri as the Black Panther since they played a major role in the Black Panther Wakanda Forever movie?
Which movie or TV Show do you think did a great job in portraying Longshot, Spiral, Shatterstar and Mojo? Just like Shatterstar, What would happen if we saw them in live action?
Can you do history of S'ym, Shroud, Master Pandemonium, Sleepwalker, D'Spayre, Lilith, Chthon, Mephisto, Black heart, Dormammu, Doyle Dormammu, Clea, Nightmare and Pkzkrfmknna along with Crystal, Magma and Vance_Astrovik AKA Justice?
I absolutely loved his original mini series, but really didn't care for him as a member of the X-Men. How about doing a video on the FRIGHTFUL FOUR. As always, MAKE MINE THE MERRY MARVELITE!!!!
NOBODY CONNECTS THE MARVEL UNIVERSE TOGETHER LIKE MERRY MARVELITE .. WHICH IS WHY THIS CHANNEL IS 'EXCELSIOR' ..
inside voices child
I love how complicated these things can get haha
Thank you for all your hard work
Longshot Remains my favorite Alien\Mutant Character from the 80's, Loved him during Inferno.
This is by far the most convoluted time travel story in the entire Marvel universe.
That was completely bonkers! No Wikipedia article can explain this as half as good as this channel.
I always liked Longshot. He was an interesting and quirky character with a unique backstory. Even his Joe Dirt mullet grew on you after a while.
Awesome! I loved Longshot back in the day : ) Hoping you do a Spiral episode!
What a crazy coincidence! I just bought Longshot #3-6 today!
Your Voice brings me Happiness!! Always grateful!!
He had the perfect narrator voice to perform this kind of storytelling.
Shatterstar is and has always been one of my favorite X-Men characters! I always knew that his ans Longshot's backstory was extremely complicated... to say the least. But I guess I forgot just how complicated, crazy, and convoluted their backstory really was! But hey, that's comics for you.
I think the most complicated backstories come about when you have several different creators iterating on each other's work. Longshot was created by Ann Nocenti in 1985, Chris Claremont made him an X-man from 1986-1989, then Scott Lobdell, Fabian Niciesza and John Byrne all iterated on the Mojoverse and Longshot's savior mythology during the 90s. But it wasn't until 2008 that Peter David tied all their loose ends together and canonized the time loop.
The episode makes me think Arcade might be a fun episode or Lady Deathstrike
Lady Deathstrike Origins would be great, since a lot of her earliest appearances were outside the core X-men books.
One of the dopest marvel movie scripts ever written.... Plus series 😅
best explanation ever at the end
More Longshot please.
Thanks for the amazing video ❤️
Longshot, Shatterstsr & Spiral's no joke!💣🔥💯📠
That was really good the unending loops are great and filled in gaps in my knowledge.
Longshot one my fav heroes as a youth. I felt his pain in Inferno and how much he stood out and saved everyone ion the end. He was a lost shattered soul but deep down he was the best.
MM never disappoints. The deep dives to truly appreciate the entirety of the Marvel Universe 🤙🏼
There is only one person I trust to explain time travel/other universe travel in Marvel, that's MM
Longshot is one of my favorite Xmen. More please. Thank you for connecting his hippity hoppity history.
I never noticed... do you folks site what issues your stories are found?
More of the 80's X-Men characters would be awesome. I was born in the mid-80s, so it was already the 90s by the time I started reading comics on a regular basis, so I was mainly following 90s Marvel as a kid. However, my family went to tons of yard sales, so I would often just get random issues of 80s books and not really know who a lot of the characters were. I grew to like Longshot, Dazzler, and the Excalibur team and stuff based on the issues I read, but I didn't have hardly any context for who they even were.
Spiral, Shatterstar and Mojo videos next????(Maybe X-Babies and Dazzler/Strong Guy(Guy Guedo) videos too)
EXCELSIOR!!!!!
I'm noticing, the newer the comic issue the more likely they have 5 fingers and not 4 haha
I’d enjoy hearing more about Shatterstar and the rest of these characters in another video. Excellent stuff. Thank you & ✌️
Shatterstar being named Shatterstar by his parents who were inspired by Shatterstar from the future, just for his parents memories to be erased by Shatterstar, and him sent into the future before learning his name, just for him to coincidentally name himself Shatterstar in the future is the most grownworthy part of this to me.
Man! Great job making this make sense. That's not an easy task, there were so many teams and books that crossed over with all the others so almost every plot point is important. You're the best at what you do ✌🏻👍🏻
My boy finally getting some coverage!
Thank you for the detail, because this character is one of my favorites, but his origins was messy.
Great job.
I was waiting for this one. Thank you.
Very nice work on this bio, sir. Longshot is a severely underused, (dare i say misused, as well) character, who is just waiting for a solo story on par with his original limited series. Which is a massive ask, considering it was created by the young and firing on all cylinders Adams and Nocenti (and if i recall correctly,with inks by Portacio, even!) That said, i have been working on that very story on and off over the years, just as a fun, conceptual exercise... But this is inspiring me to tighten up and finish the project so Marvel can underpay me and sell the overcharged books. (Just a cynical joke, there. Brevoort, give us a call when you've got the time to spare from steering the leaky boat named "X books" away from the ideological icebergs and into safe waters.) 😉✌️
so what you're telling me here is...... Shatterstar sings "im my own grampa" ??
Now, many many years ago
When I was twenty three
A demon sent me back in time
which kind of pissed off me~~
Shatterstar.. one of my favorite characters growing up such a badass name and not too mention the double bladed sword mannn the 90’s came out with the best hero’s
This is one of those stories you can definitely tell was influenced by heavy drugs
Also, love the Art Adams inhere
This was excellent, hands down
Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?
How long till you do history of the Excalibur team?
Great video!
Superb job, MM!
Came for longshot , stayed for Rita
One of Deadpool's first fights in comics was against Shatterstar, around this time. DP attacked SS right after his training sesssion, so SS wasn't at his best...and was defeated by DP. I have all these comics...''91 and '92 were crazy years for all the new & varying mutant teams 😊
Dude, that is awesome you still have them. Alas, mine are gone. I remember buying those comics back then and thinking, "I'll make sure I don't end up like kids in the 60s who's moms threw out their comics." And she didnt 😅, but they still ended up growing legs and walking out sometime around 2008.
Yes more please…and I love the convoluted mess lol.
In some stills, it looks like Longshot was patterned after David Bowie.
He's actually based off of Limahl, the Neverending story singer
@@Nebulous8091 The singer from Kajagoogoo? I can totally see the comparison.
I didn't know half of this, thanks for the info.
What's the best thing about Longshot, Mojo, Spiral and Shatterstar? Which one of their powers and abilities do you think is the best?
Good shit bro
I own so many of the comics used for visuals in this video and yes, Shatterstar is his own grandpa
4:18 Of course Mephisto's involved!!! He's always involved in important events in the comics!!!
Excelsior!
Great video. You know how back in the day Joe Quesada banned resurrections for a short period? I would love to see a temporary moratorium on time travel and multiverse stories. It would certainly simplify things for a while.
Bro is a confirmed mcoc player as well 😭
More Longshot, please!
Perhaps you could also do one more about Shatterstar proper in the future, too?
Longshot is that guy...!
Great history lesson! 24:38
love love love and shatterstar one of my favorite characters X force was OK of a run
More from this crazy time moëbius strip please
Nice
That hurt my brain. Dammit Marvel. Just make it simple!
21:40 So basically Shatterstar witnesses his own birth??? Well isn't that ironic???!!!!!
He's also his own grandpa
Are you going to do history of lesser known characters like Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Ultimo, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Flerken, Blacklash, Deathlok, Elematrix, Vertigo, Ahab, Orb, Speed freak, Masked Raider, Red_Wolf, Tarantula, Forge, Bishop, Lilandra, Adam-X, Sybil(Oracle), Titanium_Man, Crimson Dynamo, Dreadknight, Deathcry, Kobik AKA the Cosmic Cube, Blizzard, Avril Kincaid Quasar, Starbrand, Nightmask, Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Starhawk, Fixer, Whirlwind, Chemistro, Whiplash, the Controller, Madam_Masque, Count_Nefaria, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
I love the idea of the character but Rita Ricochet is just so confusing best to just initially think of her as Spiral “time looped” and not think about her odd backstory
2:57 AKA Mojo!!!
What's up with Longshot and Dazzler losing their memories of conceiving Shatterstar just to preserve the timeline?
Who's origin story sounds the most convoluted between Longshot, Spiral and Shatterstar with how they're all living in a Paradox?
Marvel’s own reality show… planet.
Thank you. Stuck in traffic.
The real DeadPool 2. 😎
What's up with Spiral being the future version of the fellow actress who worked with Longshot on a movie who ended up being tortured by Mojo? How's she compared to Magik?
Can you do history of the Living_Brain, the Elementals, Cyclone, Hydro Man, Molten Man, Puck, Ahab, Rom_the_Spaceknight, Stingray, Noh-Varr Marvel_Boy, Starbrand, Nightmask, Ava Ayala the White Tiger, Crossfire, Living Laser, Century, Lore and Technovore?
Can you do history of Ironheart, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Arno_Stark Iron Man, Squirrel_Girl, Constrictor, Deathlok, Amadeus_Cho, the Griever, Pepper Potts AKA Rescue and the Agents of Atlas along with Crescent, Morgan_Le_Fey, White Fox and Luna Snow?
Can you do history of the Elementals(Hellfire, Magnum, Hydron and Zephyr), Bastion, Master Mold, Nimrod, Inferno, Zora_Vukovic Victorious, Night Nurse, Lilandra, Sybil(Oracle), Marrow, Lady-Lotus, Sundragon and Phyla_Vell along with the Supreme Intelligence, Puppet_Master, Diablo, Mad Thinker and Angel Salvador/Tempest along with Exodus and Ex-Nhilo?
The baby X-Men. Like to know more
I remember a character called Magog, a dog like thing that attached himself to Longshot in the beginning. Did I miss mention of him?
Ive never read the comics that explained the mojoverse Longshot origins, my knowledge of MOJO and Longshot comes from x-men the animated series and 97
Are you going to do history of Ironheart, M'Baku, Namora, Attuma and Shuri as the Black Panther since they played a major role in the Black Panther Wakanda Forever movie?
Coca is a helluva drug
Which movie or TV Show do you think did a great job in portraying Longshot, Spiral, Shatterstar and Mojo? Just like Shatterstar, What would happen if we saw them in live action?
Can you do history of S'ym, Shroud, Master Pandemonium, Sleepwalker, D'Spayre, Lilith, Chthon, Mephisto, Black heart, Dormammu, Doyle Dormammu, Clea, Nightmare and Pkzkrfmknna along with Crystal, Magma and Vance_Astrovik AKA Justice?
And yet this is all far less complicated than DC's continuity
So when are you going to do history of Zora_Vukovic Victorious since you did the history of Dr_Doom?
So Longshsot is the son/father of Shatterstar
Is Longshot similar to the Mutant Domino if he has luck power similar to her? Who do you would win between them?
So much time travel 😂
Mr I’m my own grandpa over here
I absolutely loved his original mini series, but really didn't care for him as a member of the X-Men.
How about doing a video on the FRIGHTFUL FOUR.
As always, MAKE MINE THE MERRY MARVELITE!!!!
100 % in live action Jeremy Allen White would kill this character
Who do you think is the DC version of Mojo? Is Mojo similar to Jabba the hut from Star Wars?
as a kid, i was sooo disappointed in how they handled longshot. the time travel shenanigans were too much.
Was that font absolutely necessary? Lol.
How does “The X Babies” work?! Wolverine’s skeleton would still be adult sized but now a child stretched over it.
I never understood the appeal of Longshot or all that Mojo crap. The only thing worse were the stupid X-babies .