i think they might have changed the button for increasing and decreasing the distance of blocks you want to place, it used to be ctrl but now that doesn't do anything are you having the same problem?
@@damonknight2494 I've had a couple of lag spikes but I haven't had any other issues. Although, the lag could be caused by the obscene amount of weapons firing between ships...
Hey bud, I think you did a fantastic job compiling all the information and presenting in a very good way. The only critique I would give you is maybe slow your sensitivity down because the frantic movement is a little jarring especially when you're trying to highlight something. You do this circle thing and then when it cuts to something else you do it again and it just seems hectic combined with your rate of speech
@@Zer0sLegion Honestly, I dunno if its so much your sensitivity and movements as much as your high energy mixed with high fov and low fps. If either of those things were remedied, you could twitch out til your hearts content lol! I know all too well what its like to not be able to slow down regardless of everyone telling me to chill the fuck out lmao
i've just binged all the se videos and im just wondering how you dont have at least a few thousand subs. this is really high quality content. keep it up! :)
I used to use "Space Engineers Thrust Calculator" to figure out how many thrusters needed to lift the ship of any particular mass. Fun thing, I first discovered this tool when I tried to steal abandoned ship laying on the ground with only ion thrusters. So I input the mass of the ship and it said that I need 9 small atmo thrusters. And that was exactly the right amount.
Do you only need to connect components that consume resources to containers using pipes? What about energy, batteries, reactors, buttons? I didn't quite catch how they are connected, I'm watching this on mobile as I haven't had time to get on the game and watch it on pc so I'm not zoomed it and in general I just wanna prepare for this game cuz last 2 times I was too overwhelmed with how complicated everything is to someone who's not familiar with the game
@@alexthehopeless3778 Basically yes, batteries, reactors, buttons etc connected to that grid, would provide power to the whole of that grid. Hydrogen thrusters would need conveyors/pipes connecting to feed them hydrogen from storage tanks. Also, some items won't fit/travel through the small conveyors, and only the large ones.
The explanations are clear and there are multiple resources and other tutorials you can use; this video is amazing, easy to understand, and will definitely help SE starters (like myself)
lol since ive been playing SE since testing in 2013 i have no idea why i watched this hehe, but it was good. Note: there has always been a hotkey for the ship's spot lights, by default it is the same as your suit's flashlight toggle and also for those that dont know, the connectors and landing gear have option of turning the work with parking feature off :)
Please do more in this series! These have been by far THE most helpful tutorials for space engineers, and also the concise and well delivered tutorials I've seen on any subject on UA-cam over the last 10 years, you've really got a talent in this and they have been extremely helpful for me and I'm sure many others!
Not in this form, they're very time consuming to make and the next one would need to cover a lot of stuff. I'm still doing tutorials in a different form, just not linearly through the games progression.
My most recent build is a large grid, 6 wheel mining vehicle with a single drill on 2 pistons and a hinge feeding a large cargo. I slapped a basic refinery on it to constantly bring my mass/volume down.
This series has been SO helpful. I’ve really wanted to get into the game, but it’s so daunting to start. You made it so much easier to figure out what to do. Thank you!!!
Great tutorial! Quick "rule of thumb" tip for mining craft, for each large cargo container, you'll want ~1.5 large thrusters/equivalent thrust for lift, barring other equipment, in 1g (9.8m/s^2) of gravity. Generally for mining craft, 2x large (lifting) thrusters are a good basis unless you go for some crazy amount of drills or more cargo containers. Thankfully, the lift/weight ratio works roughly the same for small vs large grid builds, and KSH has now normalized masses for ore, so you don't need to worry about which ore types you're planning to mine (used to be different for specific ore types)! Side note, if you use different inventory limit settings, SE does some "handwavium" factoring on the inventory blocks' stored mass, so the mass/lift effectively becomes percentage of total block capacity base, meaning the same amount of lift thrusters works for all inventory settings now!
@@Zer0sLegion I think the easiest way to explain it is the inventory setting applies a hidden modifier to the cargo containers "internal" inventory mass calculations. So regardless of settings, the same amount of thrust will lift the same capacity percentage amount. For example, if you have enough lift for a large cargo container to hold n% of it's volume at nL mass, the same ship can be used unmodified with all inventory settings as long as you maintain the same volume % of those contents. So if your cargo has 10k iron ore, and lets say that is 50% of the capacity on Normal settings, if you go up to the 10x setting, the ship can now lift 100k (assuming it is still 50% or less) of ore cargo capacity w/o adding thrusters, as the mass per unit vs thrust ratio is maintained by the "hidden" factor value TL;DR - You can see this in action by removing the cargo container/contents, and adding raw mass to the ship via blocks. Even though the total ship mass might be the same, the lift thrust will eventually be overcome.
Excellent video series. I've had Space Engineers since there was nothing but the big red ship and the twinkie respawn, so 'survival' is brand new to me after many years, and this has been an INSANE help. Thanks a ton. Can't wait to see more!
Thanks to you I was able to build my first actaully working flying vehicle. The only issue I need to fix though is it’s just too fast XD, so fast my landing gear broke when I was drying to slow down. But thanks again!
This was very helpful but sadly I keep getting trash spawns on my survival world with no ores so I always get stuck with nothing. Appreciate your explanation🙏
You can use sorters/ small connectors to eject any ores you don’t want- so if you just wanted the iron ore and not the stones you can set up your ship to dump stones and keep the ores 👍🏽👍🏽
I really apreciate your video and the guide but i do have some constructive feedback for the miner the build and some optimization. Over all great miner but there are some things that i want to point out : 1 . downwards thrust you dont need it unless you plan to use the remote block autopilot function ( is usually used with scripts like pam for auto mining or hauling ) in any atmosphere the atmospheric thruster has a limit and will descent on its own with no need for such. 2. less connections to the drill and cargo it can all be passed up through the main connection and one small leading to the large cargo or i would suggest you add at the back of the cockpit a o2 / h2 generator and rout it to the large cargo ( best used for planets like alien or such where you dont have o2 ) 3. the blocks wich you used for fundation. is not a bad idea but and i suggest that a lot do not rely on them as a support is much better for miners to have all the parts linked with each other and armor to be used on the sides to protect your valuable thrusters in case of damage to the sides when mining ( also blast door armor and wheels are very good for that ) 4. Power consumtion . Usually your power output should never go on red ( as your ships does the moment you pressed w a and spacebar most likely ) basically in order for a ship to be usable you need it to dont consume over 60 % of full power ( the bar there ) when accelerating on 3 axes . so you need a bit more batteries. 5. Type of miner ... very important vertical miners and horizontal ones. if we talk horizontal miners like yours they usually have the main power on the front so they borron and go back up on the same way ( no need to turn verticall and borrow up ) 6 gyros ... you generaly want to have more on your ship because it will get heavier and you would want to have those .... best is to keep them all and just use 50 to 30 % of the power of them when not full and you can crank it up as you begin to fill. 7 Cameras ... is great to have a frontal camera but is neeeded to have a back one too for docking or simply going out of wholes that you dig and the 3rth person view doesnt want to work for some reason. 8. Scripts .... and here i would say the Automatic LCD 2 .... this script for a miner is absolutely necesary if the world or server alows it it displays anything from power to how much cargo is filled to even what kind of cargo you have you must take a look. 9. Ejectors .... those need to be implemented and set up to trow stone ( that way you mine just the ores you want ) . Power generation i agree small grid isnt really worth unless you have access to uranium already then yeah is a must. Over all is a great video i do hope i dont sound bad with this comment is not my intent to bash or to be negative is over all a great video and i would love to have this back when i started playing space engineers i do hope you keep up the good work and post more of these i like to see this to be a series and i do hope you make more ill subscribe and ill wait for more.
Thanks for your feedback, I don't want to go over your feedback point by point but I will say this is meant to be a beginners tutorial, it's probably not the best time to be explaining how to use scripts to mine.
Downwards thrust is required on miners because it becomes sideways thrust if you point your nose down. Without it you'll crash the roof of your miner into the tunnel wall if you try to mine straight down.
thanks so much. i made mine a bit longer, added 2 more drills, 2 additional heavy thrusters, 8 additional smaller thrusters and about 8 more batteries lol i think i need to add more wind turbines to my base those batteries are gonna take forever to charge other wise
BRO this video is GOLD homie! Lol... Such a great vid for beginners/noobs. I'm still new. Owned it since Halloween, was on sale for ten bucks. But hard finding much other than ship/rover designs. First ship done this morning, spent like 4 hrs just to return it to earth and see I was going too fast with too little thrust to fight the gravity, and boom! Lol... Seeing all the thrusters here, I see 2 wasn't enough. I used all hydro thrusters as well, dunno if that would've made the diff. Anyways, liked and subscribed... Keep up the good work
Almost a year later im sitting here and try counting the small blocks for the base of this beauty 😂 pls tell me im not the only one pausing the video while its fast forward xD lovely ship buddy. Just got the game a few days ago and im telling you... my 'mining ship' is useless compared to this. I cant even fly straight down 😅
This took me hours to emulate as it was hard to see where you where placing thrusters and what orientation, not to mention shit jumping around between cuts, thoroughly enjoyed it though XD
I think it should be noted that for the the connector there is an option that makes it not for landing and if you turn that ON on the main ship then pressing p on the main ship will not activate
Good information in this tutorial. My only feedback is that at the rate you are speaking you are assuming the audience is 110% familiar with the game already, and that they have some apparently advanced stuff unlocked when they start this (I'm building my first mining ship using this as a template and I note I don't have cameras unlocked for example).
As of the Heavy Industry update, as long as you set up your connectors and landing gears properly, it is no loner a bad idea to press P. That being said, it's on you to set your grid up properly for your own purposes.
This video needs an update...cause you say to press P to park the ship! P!! How dare you teach how to mess up with everything??? Please reconsider this video, and do a new one!
there is a nice little rant on Splitsies last speed run video where Splitsie argues for horizontal mining when on a planet/moon ... It's quite a point, because on planets you would need at least very strong directional thrust up and backwards, which makes every design challenging ... edit: Thx for the Chart! very useful! I guess getting to a full Refinery with four Yield modules is the way to go asap... what would you suggest?
Things that are not mentioned in the video; -How to find ore on planets (Dark spots on the ground, or ore detector being set to max range) -Adding more batteries will increase flight time -Adding pistons to the drills may help in some mining scenarios -Making a large grid drill ship is more efficient when you have the resources. -Avoid Pressing "P" and using the groups to avoid wasted power -Solar panels on the roof of your ship to help sustain flight, and prevent getting stranded. -Discussing weight of the ship as you mine more things.(more weight may cause your ship to sink due to lack of thrust) -Light armor vs heavy armor differences, and again, the weight consideration -Grouping assemblers for faster processing.
-Didn't mention ores as it was done in the last video -I mean, seems obvious -Didn't think pistons would be relevant to building your first ship -True, but this is first ship, I very much doubt your first ship ever is going to be a large one. Future tutorials would have covered this -Pressing P doesn't really matter as you can toggle breaking on things you don't want to toggle on P and I'm pretty sure I do 100% cover using groups -True, if you wanted to wait a billion years for them to recharge. Part of the reason in the last video I suggested building a base near the 3 mains ores -Do you really need to cover this in detail, I mentioned that you need to make sure your ship can take off at max cargo, I feel like why that is is self explanatory -Your first ship does not need heavy armour, irrelevant to the video -At this point in the tutorial series, we had a basic assembler, why would I bring up anything more advanced about them, especially in a video about building your first ship. Hope that covers your points😊
@@Zer0sLegion I partially take back what I wrote. I didn't realize you had other videos covering those topics. The only reason I wished you covered weight more is the frustrating moment of a mining ship sinking into the mineshaft you made crashing on impact. It happens to the best of us.
How does your storage container have 46k storage? Mine only has 15 for some reason. >_< I also had to add more batteries because it was saying that my thrusters weren't getting enough energy to work properly.
You can increase the cargo container size in the world settings, something I plan to cover in the future. The ship I built had just enough battery power to stay in the air.
Just started 2 days ago. Your vids are helping me SOOO much! Thx a lot! How do i find Ice? Searched in circles around my spawn but there was only savanna and desert. Is there some sort of compas?
Why would all 6 wheels of a rover just blow at the same time? I figured it out, who wouldve thought that a rover weighing 70 tonnes would have wheel blowing up at 55m/s
@@Zer0sLegion ok thanks. I did some reading and pressing middle mouse button while using drills can switch to all instead of just one. I then built a turret thingy and the same thing happened so I did the middle mouse button but only 2 of 3 guns worked still. So idk. But thank you still
Yo, Mr. Zer0, I don't see this ship in the Workshop. Why the tease without the payoff? unless I've missed the link in the description... It may be just that I drank some water after midnight, and a Gremlin is loose, but there are cuts in editing of the video for your build, such that I'd have to experiment to get it right. I can't find an atmospheric miner that can go vertical nose down and get back up. Either way _the excel spreadsheet for all the costs and stuff was something I've been looking_ for which I have to say many thanks!
Hiya, I think you posted in the discord as well so I'll repeat what I said there here: I can upload it to the workshop but it's probably better if you experiment yourself and build you own ship. The ship I've built is by no means the best or most efficient so I wouldn't recommend building it just cause I have.
@@Zer0sLegion I hadn't seen your discord server prior to making this comment. I didn't see it up yesterday (EST) but I'll check today too. If you list your workshop name/title, that probably will make it way easier to search for, because Steam's workshop search engine is a demonstration of absolute incompetence... it's amazing to this day, it still isn't as good as a place like Nexusmods' search engine years ago.
@Zer0sLegion I suppose... But at those early stages, I'd recommend building the cheepest, most disposable miner possible. Or better yet, skipping the miner altogether and moving straight to a piston based mining rig. Much simpler and safer to operate. Much smaller chance of slamming into a wall at high speeds. I personally prefer to use the Path Auto Miner script to set up the low-budget version of my Crayola miner, but since this video is vanilla, I don't think that's entirely relevant.
Noob here. I'm using atmospherig thrusters, but no matter what I do: I cannot seem to get my ship moving. Their switched on and have power. But nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
Thank you for the knowledge you give us during the video. If I was to give you a little bit of constructive criticism. You tend to shake your mouse a lot when you are trying to explain something your looking at. I have never been seasick a day in my life, until I watched your videos. Lol.
@@Zer0sLegion I figured out the large container thing had to change to the other version to get the small ports. Now i just need to figure out how to keep the ship in a hover. Its not stable at all.
@@pogeybait1194 Well if you have unequal weight distribution it'll fall into that direction I think, also if you need small ways to convert small to large ports use a "converter", it's 1x9, like a thin slice
i've just one complain: please find a better way to mark things... shaking the screen causes seasickness to me 😢 Plus now the "P" key got *FIXED* (finally!) You can set landing gears and other stuff as "parking" or not. If not for parking they won't disconnect!
Wondering if the game has changed in the last 4 months? When im building ships from tutorials my balance is off and my nose or back dips due to weight (drills or cargo) or drifts on oneside. I might be missing something as i only just started playing this game. anyone can help?
i prefer to build a big fuck off crane - piston rotating drill. makes sure you give it a counter weight arm, to stop it wobbling, but jesus christ, a crane - piston drill can fill 6 huge containers up in minutes try to build your base on the edge of an ice lake, so when its time to fill up hydrogen tanks, you can just rotate your crane drill over the ice, and stock up in minutes
once criticizm on a great tutorial - you talk real fast through it and its hard to follow without pausing loads. May I suggest slowing down a bit when you're explaining things.
Thx for those videos ! You help a lot noobs like me. Could you please speak slower and more clearly ? Im not a native english speaker and sometimes I have to reroll the video to understand what you are saying. Gg for the content anyways
Fast forward through me placing a flat plane of blocks? Do you really want to see that? As I said in the video, this guide is how to build a ship, not to build this exact ship, I ever say in the video that this isn't a very good ship. And with regards to cobalt, we found that in the last video, which I also say at the beginning of the video and cobalt is required to build a ship so I can't exactly make a video about building a ship without it.
Honestly could be a little more thorough. Like show us how you built what you built, you're skipping sections and I'm missing stuff. I basically had to figure all this out on my own.
I've seen about 12 different tutorials so far... All of you say many of the same things, but not one person has been able to specify something... How do you "lock" ships? Everyone says "lock your ship/rover" about 20 times a video. No one thinks to say how the heck you do that... :S
As I said at the beginning of the video, this is the third part in a series of tutorials. It was explaining in part two where I went over building rovers.
@@Zer0sLegion That's my bad. Apparently I didn't even understand exactly what I was asking. Apparently you can go into the g menu and set it up from the cockpit to lock connectors without utilizing the parking function, as well as remove the ability for connectors to be effected by the parking function in the control panel menu. I wasn't aware parking and locking are separate, but similar functions. I'm still very new, but finally got a cargo rover with a couple docking stations set up for a miner ship and hooking up to the base for unload and charging. You're good, I'm just an idiot at this still. :)
As a tutorial it sadly failed to give a good look around the ship to show where to place thrusters. I had to seek back and forth though the whole video to find different view angles
This video is about showing you how to build a ship, not telling you what to do. I even say in the video, this is not a good ship, it's just an example of what to do.
Your camera movement is pretty damn chaotic, and overall everything moves a bit too quickly. Slow it down significantly and you've got a great video. Thanks for your hard work though, very informative otherwise.
Everything is very strangely done, but acceptable if it's a rough example of how it should have worked. otherwise, the same onboard engines are easily damaged ... Guys, seriously, you should not repeat, but understand the principle, and build it yourself many times better, since this is an example, although not very good.
Got any questions? Reply to this comment and I will cover them in a follow up video!
i think they might have changed the button for increasing and decreasing the distance of blocks you want to place, it used to be ctrl but now that doesn't do anything are you having the same problem?
@@damonknight2494 It's definitely still control, I've just tested it.
@@Zer0sLegion weird
@@Zer0sLegion maybe it's a bug since the update just dropped i'm sure theres alot
@@damonknight2494 I've had a couple of lag spikes but I haven't had any other issues. Although, the lag could be caused by the obscene amount of weapons firing between ships...
Hey bud, I think you did a fantastic job compiling all the information and presenting in a very good way. The only critique I would give you is maybe slow your sensitivity down because the frantic movement is a little jarring especially when you're trying to highlight something. You do this circle thing and then when it cuts to something else you do it again and it just seems hectic combined with your rate of speech
I've got the need for speed! 😅
Seriously though, a couple of people have mentioned this to me and I'll keep it in mind for next time.
@@Zer0sLegion Honestly, I dunno if its so much your sensitivity and movements as much as your high energy mixed with high fov and low fps. If either of those things were remedied, you could twitch out til your hearts content lol! I know all too well what its like to not be able to slow down regardless of everyone telling me to chill the fuck out lmao
@@chloewebb5526 I've turned my fov down for later videos, I've had to suffer 60 fov for a while now
@@Zer0sLegionthats just normal for engineers lol
@@Zer0sLegionyou also just throw the thrusters on without showing it and explaining it
i've just binged all the se videos and im just wondering how you dont have at least a few thousand subs. this is really high quality content. keep it up! :)
Thank you! I'm planning to release videos more regularly, it just takes a bit of time to record and edit.
I used to use "Space Engineers Thrust Calculator" to figure out how many thrusters needed to lift the ship of any particular mass. Fun thing, I first discovered this tool when I tried to steal abandoned ship laying on the ground with only ion thrusters. So I input the mass of the ship and it said that I need 9 small atmo thrusters. And that was exactly the right amount.
Do you only need to connect components that consume resources to containers using pipes? What about energy, batteries, reactors, buttons? I didn't quite catch how they are connected, I'm watching this on mobile as I haven't had time to get on the game and watch it on pc so I'm not zoomed it and in general I just wanna prepare for this game cuz last 2 times I was too overwhelmed with how complicated everything is to someone who's not familiar with the game
@@alexthehopeless3778 Basically yes, batteries, reactors, buttons etc connected to that grid, would provide power to the whole of that grid.
Hydrogen thrusters would need conveyors/pipes connecting to feed them hydrogen from storage tanks.
Also, some items won't fit/travel through the small conveyors, and only the large ones.
I struggled so hard to follow the build along but I think I managed it😅
Thanks for the tutorial, it's a great ship
The explanations are clear and there are multiple resources and other tutorials you can use; this video is amazing, easy to understand, and will definitely help SE starters (like myself)
lol since ive been playing SE since testing in 2013 i have no idea why i watched this hehe, but it was good.
Note: there has always been a hotkey for the ship's spot lights, by default it is the same as your suit's flashlight toggle and also for those that dont know, the connectors and landing gear have option of turning the work with parking feature off :)
Please do more in this series! These have been by far THE most helpful tutorials for space engineers, and also the concise and well delivered tutorials I've seen on any subject on UA-cam over the last 10 years, you've really got a talent in this and they have been extremely helpful for me and I'm sure many others!
*the most concise and well delivered
It’s always good to have fresh tutorials for new players to space engineers.. any future plans for tutorials? Maybe with larger scale ships?
Not in this form, they're very time consuming to make and the next one would need to cover a lot of stuff. I'm still doing tutorials in a different form, just not linearly through the games progression.
My most recent build is a large grid, 6 wheel mining vehicle with a single drill on 2 pistons and a hinge feeding a large cargo. I slapped a basic refinery on it to constantly bring my mass/volume down.
This series has been SO helpful. I’ve really wanted to get into the game, but it’s so daunting to start. You made it so much easier to figure out what to do. Thank you!!!
Glad I could help!
@@Zer0sLegion I was looking for the next tutorial, but I’m not seeing it…was this the last one of this series?
Great tutorial!
Quick "rule of thumb" tip for mining craft, for each large cargo container, you'll want ~1.5 large thrusters/equivalent thrust for lift, barring other equipment, in 1g (9.8m/s^2) of gravity. Generally for mining craft, 2x large (lifting) thrusters are a good basis unless you go for some crazy amount of drills or more cargo containers. Thankfully, the lift/weight ratio works roughly the same for small vs large grid builds, and KSH has now normalized masses for ore, so you don't need to worry about which ore types you're planning to mine (used to be different for specific ore types)!
Side note, if you use different inventory limit settings, SE does some "handwavium" factoring on the inventory blocks' stored mass, so the mass/lift effectively becomes percentage of total block capacity base, meaning the same amount of lift thrusters works for all inventory settings now!
Oh wow, I didn't know that last part, I always assumed it would factor use the weight of whatever was in the container.
@@Zer0sLegion I think the easiest way to explain it is the inventory setting applies a hidden modifier to the cargo containers "internal" inventory mass calculations.
So regardless of settings, the same amount of thrust will lift the same capacity percentage amount.
For example, if you have enough lift for a large cargo container to hold n% of it's volume at nL mass, the same ship can be used unmodified with all inventory settings as long as you maintain the same volume % of those contents.
So if your cargo has 10k iron ore, and lets say that is 50% of the capacity on Normal settings, if you go up to the 10x setting, the ship can now lift 100k (assuming it is still 50% or less) of ore cargo capacity w/o adding thrusters, as the mass per unit vs thrust ratio is maintained by the "hidden" factor value
TL;DR - You can see this in action by removing the cargo container/contents, and adding raw mass to the ship via blocks.
Even though the total ship mass might be the same, the lift thrust will eventually be overcome.
Got 400hrs in SE and still learning. Nice videos
Same, I feel like I learn something new about the game everyday!
Just wanna say that your guides have been a great help!
Glad I can help!
Same just got back into the game and didn't know many of the hockey's he mentions
Excellent video series. I've had Space Engineers since there was nothing but the big red ship and the twinkie respawn, so 'survival' is brand new to me after many years, and this has been an INSANE help. Thanks a ton. Can't wait to see more!
There will be more soon!
Best space engineers video ever. Subbed
Fast paced video, but very informative. Thank you for posting it. Answers many questions I had since I only started playing a few days ago.
Thanks to you I was able to build my first actaully working flying vehicle. The only issue I need to fix though is it’s just too fast XD, so fast my landing gear broke when I was drying to slow down. But thanks again!
This was very helpful but sadly I keep getting trash spawns on my survival world with no ores so I always get stuck with nothing. Appreciate your explanation🙏
Find little balls on the surface and they’ll contain ores
You can use sorters/ small connectors to eject any ores you don’t want- so if you just wanted the iron ore and not the stones you can set up your ship to dump stones and keep the ores 👍🏽👍🏽
amazing guides. you should be proud of your work
I really apreciate your video and the guide but i do have some constructive feedback for the miner the build and some optimization.
Over all great miner but there are some things that i want to point out :
1 . downwards thrust you dont need it unless you plan to use the remote block autopilot function ( is usually used with scripts like pam for auto mining or hauling ) in any atmosphere
the atmospheric thruster has a limit and will descent on its own with no need for such.
2. less connections to the drill and cargo it can all be passed up through the main connection and one small leading to the large cargo or i would suggest you add at the back of the cockpit
a o2 / h2 generator and rout it to the large cargo ( best used for planets like alien or such where you dont have o2 )
3. the blocks wich you used for fundation. is not a bad idea but and i suggest that a lot do not rely on them as a support is much better for miners to have all the parts linked with each other
and armor to be used on the sides to protect your valuable thrusters in case of damage to the sides when mining ( also blast door armor and wheels are very good for that )
4. Power consumtion . Usually your power output should never go on red ( as your ships does the moment you pressed w a and spacebar most likely ) basically in order for a ship to be usable
you need it to dont consume over 60 % of full power ( the bar there ) when accelerating on 3 axes . so you need a bit more batteries.
5. Type of miner ... very important vertical miners and horizontal ones. if we talk horizontal miners like yours they usually have the main power on the front so they borron and go back up on the same way ( no need to turn verticall and borrow up )
6 gyros ... you generaly want to have more on your ship because it will get heavier and you would want to have those .... best is to keep them all and just use 50 to 30 % of the power of them when not full and you can crank it up as you begin to fill.
7 Cameras ... is great to have a frontal camera but is neeeded to have a back one too for docking or simply going out of wholes that you dig and the 3rth person view doesnt want to work for some reason.
8. Scripts .... and here i would say the Automatic LCD 2 .... this script for a miner is absolutely necesary if the world or server alows it it displays anything from power to how much cargo is filled to even what kind of cargo you have you must take a look.
9. Ejectors .... those need to be implemented and set up to trow stone ( that way you mine just the ores you want ) .
Power generation i agree small grid isnt really worth unless you have access to uranium already then yeah is a must.
Over all is a great video i do hope i dont sound bad with this comment is not my intent to bash or to be negative is over all a great video and i would love to have this back when i started playing space engineers i do hope you keep up the good work and post more of these i like to see this to be a series and i do hope you make more ill subscribe and ill wait for more.
Thanks for your feedback, I don't want to go over your feedback point by point but I will say this is meant to be a beginners tutorial, it's probably not the best time to be explaining how to use scripts to mine.
Downwards thrust is required on miners because it becomes sideways thrust if you point your nose down. Without it you'll crash the roof of your miner into the tunnel wall if you try to mine straight down.
thanks so much. i made mine a bit longer, added 2 more drills, 2 additional heavy thrusters, 8 additional smaller thrusters and about 8 more batteries lol i think i need to add more wind turbines to my base those batteries are gonna take forever to charge other wise
One suggestion I have for testing performance under load with ships and rovers, is to fill all cargo holding blocks with gravel
Why gravel? Because it’s the most common material?
@@billwilliamson1506 probably
Dude. This will save me hours or even days of progress. Iron is now not a problem.
BRO this video is GOLD homie! Lol... Such a great vid for beginners/noobs. I'm still new. Owned it since Halloween, was on sale for ten bucks. But hard finding much other than ship/rover designs. First ship done this morning, spent like 4 hrs just to return it to earth and see I was going too fast with too little thrust to fight the gravity, and boom! Lol... Seeing all the thrusters here, I see 2 wasn't enough. I used all hydro thrusters as well, dunno if that would've made the diff. Anyways, liked and subscribed... Keep up the good work
Thanks
Can you continue the series? maybe advanced tutorials on improving the base and upgrading your machinery/rover/ship?
I will be yes, it might just take a different form
You have the quality of a million sub youtuber, nice job, I like the content.
Thanks
Almost a year later im sitting here and try counting the small blocks for the base of this beauty 😂 pls tell me im not the only one pausing the video while its fast forward xD lovely ship buddy. Just got the game a few days ago and im telling you... my 'mining ship' is useless compared to this. I cant even fly straight down 😅
Love the video. More please!
Coming soon™
This took me hours to emulate as it was hard to see where you where placing thrusters and what orientation, not to mention shit jumping around between cuts, thoroughly enjoyed it though XD
I wouldn't copy my design exactly, just place thrusters in all directions and you should be fine.
@@Zer0sLegion Thanks man (: it was fun messing around & I learned a lot.
ETA on the next ship video?
@@Utubebandit89 No promises but probably this year 😅
@@Zer0sLegion Until the thrusters expand out too much and bump all over the tunnel you are digging....
Was looking for exactly this thanks
Yeah, after my 9 km trip using the drop pod turned mining ship, and it crashing 3 times, a new ship is just what I need.
I think it should be noted that for the the connector there is an option that makes it not for landing and if you turn that ON on the main ship then pressing p on the main ship will not activate
I did that for my main ship and it ended up being a major help!
Feels like my brain is melting trying to follow all the hotbar stuff, never could figure it all out
You'll get the hang of it over time, just takes some getting use to.
It’s a shame the series stopped here. It was just getting good and was super informative up to this point.
I did further tutorials about the game, just about more general things as apposed to directed through survival.
Great video - just a little dizzy though when you spinning around so fast. Subscribed 👍
Good information in this tutorial. My only feedback is that at the rate you are speaking you are assuming the audience is 110% familiar with the game already, and that they have some apparently advanced stuff unlocked when they start this (I'm building my first mining ship using this as a template and I note I don't have cameras unlocked for example).
It is the third part of the series, I did say that in the video.
As of the Heavy Industry update, as long as you set up your connectors and landing gears properly, it is no loner a bad idea to press P. That being said, it's on you to set your grid up properly for your own purposes.
I played recently and pressing P disconnected all my attached ships. I'd still not recommend getting into a habit of using it.
Do do you need a antenna to use remote access
Yes.
This video needs an update...cause you say to press P to park the ship! P!! How dare you teach how to mess up with everything??? Please reconsider this video, and do a new one!
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I like to put the ore detector in the bottom of the ship for the greatest amount of coverage of the ground.
You are technically correct but I'm not sure the 0.5m closer to the ground is going to make much difference lol 😅
"I'm going to press P to park"
Splitsie: "And I took that personally"
If Capac didn't exist, Splitsie wouldn't have a problem with the P button
will you make a 4 video in this series?
One day
there is a nice little rant on Splitsies last speed run video where Splitsie argues for horizontal mining when on a planet/moon ... It's quite a point, because on planets you would need at least very strong directional thrust up and backwards, which makes every design challenging ... edit: Thx for the Chart! very useful! I guess getting to a full Refinery with four Yield modules is the way to go asap... what would you suggest?
Anything that reduces the amount of mining I have to do the better! More Yield!
Very informative video set!
A little tip, you don’t have to group spot lights. Pressing L while in a cockpit or control seat will turn spotlights on and off.
Yeah, I normally have multiple sets of lights on my ships so I normally don't use L
Nice tutorial but omg the camera shake was making me dizzy lol
Yeah, sorry 😅
Amazing video! Subscribed to your channel
why the downward thrusters on a atmos, it only increases chance of crashing when landing with full cargocontainers. especially for newer players.
For when you're pointing nose down, you need them to maneuver. Or when you "land" on you side 😋
@@Zer0sLegion also i remember the ai really doesnt like to be missing a side to drive your ship
You can build a "plunge" miner with drills on the bottom so you don't risk rolling over.
New player here! Why do you connect the cockpit and the cargo container?
You don't have to really for a planetary ship but it's good practice for the future when you need to have oxygen and hydrogen in your cockpit
@@Zer0sLegion ohhhh I see! Thank you for the quick reply!
Things that are not mentioned in the video;
-How to find ore on planets (Dark spots on the ground, or ore detector being set to max range)
-Adding more batteries will increase flight time
-Adding pistons to the drills may help in some mining scenarios
-Making a large grid drill ship is more efficient when you have the resources.
-Avoid Pressing "P" and using the groups to avoid wasted power
-Solar panels on the roof of your ship to help sustain flight, and prevent getting stranded.
-Discussing weight of the ship as you mine more things.(more weight may cause your ship to sink due to lack of thrust)
-Light armor vs heavy armor differences, and again, the weight consideration
-Grouping assemblers for faster processing.
-Didn't mention ores as it was done in the last video
-I mean, seems obvious
-Didn't think pistons would be relevant to building your first ship
-True, but this is first ship, I very much doubt your first ship ever is going to be a large one. Future tutorials would have covered this
-Pressing P doesn't really matter as you can toggle breaking on things you don't want to toggle on P and I'm pretty sure I do 100% cover using groups
-True, if you wanted to wait a billion years for them to recharge. Part of the reason in the last video I suggested building a base near the 3 mains ores
-Do you really need to cover this in detail, I mentioned that you need to make sure your ship can take off at max cargo, I feel like why that is is self explanatory
-Your first ship does not need heavy armour, irrelevant to the video
-At this point in the tutorial series, we had a basic assembler, why would I bring up anything more advanced about them, especially in a video about building your first ship.
Hope that covers your points😊
@@Zer0sLegion I partially take back what I wrote.
I didn't realize you had other videos covering those topics. The only reason I wished you covered weight more is the frustrating moment of a mining ship sinking into the mineshaft you made crashing on impact. It happens to the best of us.
How does your storage container have 46k storage? Mine only has 15 for some reason. >_<
I also had to add more batteries because it was saying that my thrusters weren't getting enough energy to work properly.
You can increase the cargo container size in the world settings, something I plan to cover in the future.
The ship I built had just enough battery power to stay in the air.
8:09 i built my own ship and got too much thrusters foward and only few going back and my ship crushed into the ground 10/10
Just started 2 days ago. Your vids are helping me SOOO much! Thx a lot! How do i find Ice? Searched in circles around my spawn but there was only savanna and desert. Is there some sort of compas?
You can mine snow to get small amounts of it but otherwise it's just about flying around until you find it.
I personally build a very small and efficient flyer and zip around marking GPS positions to come back to later with my bigger, inefficient drillers.
I bought this game thinking it was similar to trail makers😂 I had no idea how complicated it is😂😭
Hey mate, i know the video is a bit old but i wanted to ask you how to make the stone go in the big storage, because mine stay in the drills
It should go into the other storage automatically if it's connected.
Why would all 6 wheels of a rover just blow at the same time?
I figured it out, who wouldve thought that a rover weighing 70 tonnes would have wheel blowing up at 55m/s
When putting drills into the hotbar for use, only one spins when I use it. Help please
I had that bug when making this video, I removed all of the drills and readded them and that fixed it
@@Zer0sLegion ok thanks. I did some reading and pressing middle mouse button while using drills can switch to all instead of just one. I then built a turret thingy and the same thing happened so I did the middle mouse button but only 2 of 3 guns worked still. So idk. But thank you still
I keep having problems with gravity, when I build a ship it tips over and I can’t get things placed down
Landing gear first
Top notch
Thanks!
Yo, Mr. Zer0, I don't see this ship in the Workshop. Why the tease without the payoff? unless I've missed the link in the description... It may be just that I drank some water after midnight, and a Gremlin is loose, but there are cuts in editing of the video for your build, such that I'd have to experiment to get it right. I can't find an atmospheric miner that can go vertical nose down and get back up. Either way _the excel spreadsheet for all the costs and stuff was something I've been looking_ for which I have to say many thanks!
Hiya, I think you posted in the discord as well so I'll repeat what I said there here: I can upload it to the workshop but it's probably better if you experiment yourself and build you own ship. The ship I've built is by no means the best or most efficient so I wouldn't recommend building it just cause I have.
@@Zer0sLegion I hadn't seen your discord server prior to making this comment. I didn't see it up yesterday (EST) but I'll check today too.
If you list your workshop name/title, that probably will make it way easier to search for, because Steam's workshop search engine is a demonstration of absolute incompetence... it's amazing to this day, it still isn't as good as a place like Nexusmods' search engine years ago.
Hey zer0 sorry for another Qn, but i couldnt find cobalt with my ore detector (mountains) so do i just build the ship first?
You can't build a ship without cobalt, you can't build thrusters
If you've snow there is probably lakes. I found cobalt there.
Thanks I'll check it out @SStone866
Why did you insist on running conveyors along the sides when they were already connected through the cockpit?
Redundancy, I ran it at the front and the sides in case there was damage.
@Zer0sLegion I suppose... But at those early stages, I'd recommend building the cheepest, most disposable miner possible. Or better yet, skipping the miner altogether and moving straight to a piston based mining rig. Much simpler and safer to operate. Much smaller chance of slamming into a wall at high speeds. I personally prefer to use the Path Auto Miner script to set up the low-budget version of my Crayola miner, but since this video is vanilla, I don't think that's entirely relevant.
how do I turn the blocks around for my design?
Insert, home, page up, delete, end and page down. I covered that in my first tutorial video.
@@Zer0sLegion thanks dude
How do I make the jump drives work🤔I've tried everything and it doesn't let me put the jump action into my toolbar🤔
If it's on the ship, you should just be able to add it to the toolbar...
@@Zer0sLegion it doesn't pop up
maybe i placed the thrusters wrong but i keep moving in the left when im not touching my keyboard i think its even weight on all sides so im confused
i didn't have left right thrusters i fixed it thanks for the cool ship design
glad you figured it out!
Noob here. I'm using atmospherig thrusters, but no matter what I do: I cannot seem to get my ship moving. Their switched on and have power. But nothing happens. What am I doing wrong?
Never mind. Didn't bring enough batteries! :D
seems like you figured it out!
Thank you for the knowledge you give us during the video. If I was to give you a little bit of constructive criticism. You tend to shake your mouse a lot when you are trying to explain something your looking at. I have never been seasick a day in my life, until I watched your videos. Lol.
Yeah, i've fixed that for my new videos
@@Zer0sLegion Please keep up the great content.
can't even charge my batteries in my base using this design. is there any patch fix? im new to the game
No change, you're probably using more energy that you're producing.
@@Zer0sLegion do you have video to explain effective energy usage or something like that?
@@ndar Bit late but he does.
How did you change the port from normal size to small?
wdym?
@@Zer0sLegion I figured out the large container thing had to change to the other version to get the small ports. Now i just need to figure out how to keep the ship in a hover. Its not stable at all.
@@pogeybait1194 Well if you have unequal weight distribution it'll fall into that direction I think,
also if you need small ways to convert small to large ports use a "converter", it's 1x9, like a thin slice
Balancing the dang thing is hard. mine gets too heavy
I feel like you need way too many thrusters to keep it in the sky. Or maybe I just want too much storage lol
@@Zer0sLegion It's not unreasonable seeing as it seems to take an unreasonable amount of resources to build anything nice
i've just one complain: please find a better way to mark things... shaking the screen causes seasickness to me 😢 Plus now the "P" key got *FIXED* (finally!) You can set landing gears and other stuff as "parking" or not. If not for parking they won't disconnect!
Yeap, I've stopped doing that in later videos
@@Zer0sLegion very thanks T.T
What microphone do you use?
Shure MV7
never use P ask capac and splitsi why
I say that later in the video.
Hey i disconnected my connector but my ship wont move if i press space
Press P
@@Zer0sLegion Oh ok thanks
I just got the game literally 30 min ago and I don’t even know how to equip the torch to my hot bar to my my hands 🤣
Then I would recommend starting with the beginners guide then!
great tutorial but god dam your giving me motion sickness from how rapid you move your mouse
Sorry, I talk with my hands! I'll try to fix it next time.
@@Zer0sLegion ye i get it im the same still a great vid tho sometimes you gotta go through pain to gain knowledge
Wondering if the game has changed in the last 4 months? When im building ships from tutorials my balance is off and my nose or back dips due to weight (drills or cargo) or drifts on oneside. I might be missing something as i only just started playing this game. anyone can help?
Nothing has since the last update and generally, the weight of the ship is simulated from it's centre.
i prefer to build a big fuck off crane - piston rotating drill. makes sure you give it a counter weight arm, to stop it wobbling, but jesus christ, a crane - piston drill can fill 6 huge containers up in minutes try to build your base on the edge of an ice lake, so when its time to fill up hydrogen tanks, you can just rotate your crane drill over the ice, and stock up in minutes
Don't I have one of these in the background of this video, I honestly can't remember
Why does my ship just fall apart without even touching anything
Everything is connected and built together but falls apart like legos when it moves
That's sound weird... Thrusters damage blocks around them, maybe that's it.
@@Zer0sLegion i didnt know that, thank you
once criticizm on a great tutorial - you talk real fast through it and its hard to follow without pausing loads. May I suggest slowing down a bit when you're explaining things.
Yeah, a couple of people have said that's, I'll keep it in mind for next time!
I have tried to make a ship hundreds of times and none of them moved even when the engines were on
Landing gear on?
Thx for those videos ! You help a lot noobs like me.
Could you please speak slower and more clearly ? Im not a native english speaker and sometimes I have to reroll the video to understand what you are saying.
Gg for the content anyways
Sorry, yeah. I can keep that in mind for next time.
I don't know how, but somehow I accidentally blew up my first ship.
F
Great stuff. But slow down when talking. You cover a ton of info in 5 secs sometimes...
Yeah sorry 😓
@@Zer0sLegion NP, I subscribed. You have great content man ..
Beginner? Hey, let's fast forward everything and make sure to use cobalt which can be tricky to find! Thanks, but no thanks.
Fast forward through me placing a flat plane of blocks? Do you really want to see that?
As I said in the video, this guide is how to build a ship, not to build this exact ship, I ever say in the video that this isn't a very good ship.
And with regards to cobalt, we found that in the last video, which I also say at the beginning of the video and cobalt is required to build a ship so I can't exactly make a video about building a ship without it.
how to build a base on mars and whit oxigen
H2 O2 generator and a vent.
Minecraft, but space
Pretty much.
Honestly could be a little more thorough. Like show us how you built what you built, you're skipping sections and I'm missing stuff. I basically had to figure all this out on my own.
This video is to show you how to build a ship, not how to build the specific ship shown in the video.
I've seen about 12 different tutorials so far... All of you say many of the same things, but not one person has been able to specify something... How do you "lock" ships? Everyone says "lock your ship/rover" about 20 times a video. No one thinks to say how the heck you do that... :S
As I said at the beginning of the video, this is the third part in a series of tutorials. It was explaining in part two where I went over building rovers.
@@Zer0sLegion That's my bad. Apparently I didn't even understand exactly what I was asking. Apparently you can go into the g menu and set it up from the cockpit to lock connectors without utilizing the parking function, as well as remove the ability for connectors to be effected by the parking function in the control panel menu. I wasn't aware parking and locking are separate, but similar functions. I'm still very new, but finally got a cargo rover with a couple docking stations set up for a miner ship and hooking up to the base for unload and charging. You're good, I'm just an idiot at this still. :)
Who's the HOTTIE in the cover? Obviously not the one narrating.
Wow, rude. Not telling you now.
As a tutorial it sadly failed to give a good look around the ship to show where to place thrusters. I had to seek back and forth though the whole video to find different view angles
This video is about showing you how to build a ship, not telling you what to do. I even say in the video, this is not a good ship, it's just an example of what to do.
whos face is in all your thumbnails?
Robin Higgins
It moves to fast for me to count how many blocks were used!
Don't build the exact same ship, build your own design
Your camera movement is pretty damn chaotic, and overall everything moves a bit too quickly. Slow it down significantly and you've got a great video. Thanks for your hard work though, very informative otherwise.
Yeah, I've come a long way since then, found out giving people motion sickness isn't a good idea lol
can you stop waving your mouse around the screen please just point it at what you want your viewers to focus on.
Already stopped doing that in my later videos, you're welcome.
Everything is very strangely done, but acceptable if it's a rough example of how it should have worked.
otherwise, the same onboard engines are easily damaged ...
Guys, seriously, you should not repeat, but understand the principle, and build it yourself many times better, since this is an example, although not very good.
The ship could barely fly as it was, putting armour on the thrusters would have just bee extra weight 😅
That's why I called it a rough example. 🙃
Hard to follow the grid size youre using for the frame
This video isn't for you to copy my ship, it's to show you how to build a ship. I even say in the video this isn't a good ship.
@@Zer0sLegion Alright. Thanks for your help. I copied it and works great for getting resources, but im a noob.