Hashinshin: Riot fails to balance Tanks!

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  • @123rubbeldiekatz123
    @123rubbeldiekatz123 6 років тому +123

    6:00 Singed actually stopped and looked at the stats of Thornmail =D

  • @binks9118
    @binks9118 6 років тому +229

    Hashinshin is starting to get addicting and in turn your videos are just as addicting, you'd be a great editor for the guy.

  • @alyantza
    @alyantza 6 років тому +106

    Hashinshin is like a heroin addict, it doesn't matter how dirty the needle is, he just comes back for more

    • @Mowadium
      @Mowadium 6 років тому +2

      wow very deep

    • @Nersius
      @Nersius 6 років тому +1

      Chadshinshin would quit LoL if he could make them phat streaming stacks from another game.

  • @vonwaq
    @vonwaq 6 років тому +36

    tommy309 when he feeds or ints:
    tommy
    3
    0
    9

  • @Haweaz
    @Haweaz 6 років тому +150

    Doesn't matter how much armor or mag resist I buy, everyone does %health dmg and builds penetration so it doesn't mean shit; god forbid if I try to fight back.

    • @kidbuu9195
      @kidbuu9195 6 років тому +36

      Was playing shen against a full AD team while I was super fed and had 300+ armor and was still getting melted. Won the game anyways but dude it feels so bad.

    • @Jack-op8bb
      @Jack-op8bb 6 років тому

      @@kidbuu9195 I feel the same way.

    • @kizehanchi4034
      @kizehanchi4034 6 років тому +31

      A brand support with 2 items with good timing can swipe whole enemy team cause of his op passive deal % health base on his ap

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 6 років тому +8

      Mages get 40% mr shred with 1 item, ADCs deal true dmg with IE, and Bruisers get Conq

    • @gngirl2788
      @gngirl2788 6 років тому +14

      but when enemy rengar gets just tabis, i'm critting him for 250 with IE as a marksman :P

  • @jay_ian5828
    @jay_ian5828 6 років тому +225

    They do a great job creating cinematics and music videos but fails to do a better job at balancing the game😔

    • @sterryd121
      @sterryd121 6 років тому +10

      Name me one game that is perfectly balanced, that doesnt have meta picks, is competitive and have over 30 characters in it? The answer is no game is perfect balance thats why competitive games have tier list and metas.

    • @geasslelouch
      @geasslelouch 6 років тому +36

      @@sterryd121 wooooooshhhh the game has been in shambles and going down hill since the juggernaut patch. Ability maxing is far more linear, champ identity is stagnant not fluid, the base rules of the game have been turned on their head, key stones were power creep ideas that have left the players in a mire, the balance team doesn't play the game, I could go on but ik you breathe with your mouth so I'll stop

    • @kizehanchi4034
      @kizehanchi4034 6 років тому +4

      @@sterryd121 it's dota 2 the game that require your micro skill and team combat than your champs picking

    • @gloomylobster111
      @gloomylobster111 6 років тому +3

      @@kizehanchi4034 Dota 2 is just relaxing like instead of team fights every 5 to 10 minutes you can actually farm

    • @user-nt4fi7dr4c
      @user-nt4fi7dr4c 6 років тому +3

      @@kizehanchi4034 well theres like counter picks in dota while in league everyone just main a few champs and feel proud of themselves while having hardtime fighting those who counter them and do not understand why this happens......the way how league play nowdays is too solid, it totally sucks

  • @ronitnayak4408
    @ronitnayak4408 6 років тому +89

    i cant stop watching these, been here since the beef with dom

    • @veldsuperleague
      @veldsuperleague 6 років тому

      Nice profile picture :D

    • @Avidire
      @Avidire 6 років тому

      The beef with dom was one of the hypest thing to happen in league

  • @reverzive4166
    @reverzive4166 6 років тому +5

    "Riot pays so little attention to the game... wait, why am I building Ghostblade?"

  • @fullyuki
    @fullyuki 6 років тому +20

    Thank you SphereStalker, very cool!

  • @kossetsu_7192
    @kossetsu_7192 6 років тому +102

    Tommy
    3
    0
    9
    And the Riot balance team is unironically Iron IV
    +12 stacks
    Frogchamp

    • @cheekyman232
      @cheekyman232 6 років тому +1

      @TYT Member #404 I don't see it being op because you can just constantly invade the nasus. He doesn't have good 1v1 early and his clear is really fucking slow. Just pick something like rengar or jax to counter jg him.

    • @thegamerdevil6662
      @thegamerdevil6662 6 років тому

      @Alvo then you clearly havent played it or against it while retaining decent clears you also gave god ganks with chilling smite w

    • @veldsuperleague
      @veldsuperleague 6 років тому +2

      1 Actually riot balance team is full with diamond and master players! Have a research!
      2 Low elo maybe but at high Nasus is dogshit (Get ot he is dog). They nerferd jg camp xp, smites too and if you dont last hit jg camps tou are pretty much screwed. And i plaued a gamw with Nasua jg on my team. Two teamfifhts woth us at 40 mins and we won becauae we all won our lanes. So good luck playing JG Nasus!

    • @neklin7150
      @neklin7150 6 років тому

      unless you are dimond or higher (that is 2,5% of players so it is likely you are fucking not) they are better than you kiddo :| git gud

    • @booonnoob7950
      @booonnoob7950 6 років тому

      The only people complaining about nasus jungle are the people in low elo. In high elo, it is not as rewarding for a nasus to farm in the jungle. The enemy team will know how to play around that. It would be more punishing for nasus’s team. Even in lane, he is still not as strong, he only gets 12 stacks from cannon minions but if the enemy denies him from stacking it, he would end up with less stacks

  • @TheBobby2legs
    @TheBobby2legs 6 років тому +1

    Hashinshin could not be a better voice for top lane bruisers.
    Keep up the good work sphere 👍

  • @itlogo0o
    @itlogo0o 6 років тому +6

    i agree with hash about jungles just sitting on lane and still gets even with exp they should remove catch up exp and tone down bounty system and in 9.2 they're planning to lower jungle camp exp again.... imagine sej zac and rammus just waiting in that bush waiting for to last hit that cannon minion before jumping on your ass

  • @1425363878
    @1425363878 6 років тому +2

    I remember a time when tanks were totally the thing you needed to have for team fights but they could be taken on one on one by basically anybody because they didn't deal any damage. That was a good time.

  • @user-xv9kb2vs5f
    @user-xv9kb2vs5f 6 років тому +1

    2:10 - "I've never said conqueror shouldn't exist"
    *less than 10 seconds later*
    "Should conqueror exist? No."

  • @combichristevilnice6581
    @combichristevilnice6581 6 років тому

    I love this " Nyao nyao sinsin you just complaining"

  • @urgotmain7045
    @urgotmain7045 6 років тому +67

    Never clicked out of porn soo fast 😂😂😂

    • @silence7524
      @silence7524 6 років тому +4

      -not the most original but me too-

    • @N1NY44
      @N1NY44 6 років тому

      Hahahah same 😂

    • @aifred8435
      @aifred8435 6 років тому +1

      clicks out of porn for fucking hashinshin its a yikes from me chief.

    • @scoobty4449
      @scoobty4449 6 років тому

      @@aifred8435 agree

  • @lusio7182
    @lusio7182 6 років тому +5

    his nick in a few months:
    Riot Hashinshin
    (balance team manager)

  • @Emeowy
    @Emeowy 6 років тому +11

    0:35 skaarl lol

  • @primeerebus253
    @primeerebus253 6 років тому +58

    Hash: "Why is there no punishment for sitting on a lane?"
    Actually there is. If you dont shove your lane and freeze it at your turret the enemy jungler will struggle to attack you. Thus the only thing he/she will accomplish is leaching XP from the top laner getting you ahead of 2 players. However, if you endlessly shove lane as a kled into a singed you are begging to be ganked. Singed has one of the most gank friendly kits in the game with his slow and flip, this isnt mentioning the DOT he places on you.
    "How does bramblevest still exist, its one of the most broken items in league of legends history."
    Bramblevest/Thornmail is purely designed to make champions like Kled, Yi, Jax, etc think twice before mindlessly beating on a tank. With tanks having to build FULL TANK to counteract the power spikes that jax, kled, yi, etc have, bramblevest/thornmail give them a viable option for trading with these champions.
    It greatly shows why you would think its broken, you do not play anything other than autoattack champions, its a direct counter to you not only for the champions you play, but for you as a player in general.
    "They should do an across the board nerf to every single concept that tanks have, then remove conquerer, nerf last whisper, and remove void staff"
    Holy... just wow this is gonna be a long one here.
    Doing any of this would make having a tank pointless. You would simply play... son of a bitch.... jax, kled, aatrox....
    So by nerfing everything tank you would have bruisers make a heavy ass comeback to the top lane, but heres the problem with that logic... RANGED. By nerfing tanks, you would essentially say "Come back to top lane all you Kennen, Quinn, Jayce, and any ADC players that didnt get their role."
    The biggest direct counter to bruisers is ranged poke and hard CC. Ranged poke is easier to accomplish so players are going to en mass go that route to counter all of the new jax, kled, aatrox, and darius one tricks in top again.
    Although I would love to see you BEG for tanks to be buffed again if tanks were nerfed and all of these ranged champs came top again. I would pay money to see a Grasp Quinn with Demolish, Second Wind, and Unflinching VS your Jax, any build, top lane after they nerfed tanks just so I could see you complain about how "WHY DID THEY NERF TANKS AND ALLOW THESE GUYS BACK INTO TOP LANE, I WANT RANGED CHAMPS NERFED"
    "They aren't going to allow an entire class to just be useless"
    Then if you know this, why constantly shove these ludicrous statements that would make an entire class useless down our throats to try to fit your bullshit narrative to make the champions you play the only viable top laners.

    • @magickmagick6296
      @magickmagick6296 6 років тому +12

      with that freeze "counter", you can effectively stop the effectiveness of aggression champions who relies on early game prowess with decently timed "sit-ganks". even if u are just under tower, with the correct pick combination for top and jungle, with the current damage of the game, being at 70% HP puts you at risk of getting dived and dying because top laners run ignite. the solution is a counter-gank, which can be problematic because it demands a teamplaying early game jungler. Again, lessening solo potential as a player, and effectively making junglers too controlling early in the game.

    • @magickmagick6296
      @magickmagick6296 6 років тому +6

      Bramble vest and thornmail arent purely designed for that, because u can use it to other bruisers who still auto attack and theyd still get fucked, like renekton and nasus, who relies on healing too. and as his point stated, thats why conqueror exists, and thats a problem, because the game will revolve around the small champion pool of those who would want to use conqueror because fuck getting countered, not to mention conqueror still gives you true damage and AD on anyone you try to hit anyway, so fuck other autoattack bruisers too who doesnt get conqueror. Game's too reliant on certain aspects of the game, and thats Hashinshin's point. It ultimately makes the game less flexible, hence the damage heavy, faster paced game we have now with barely any effective tanks.

    • @ManlyTear
      @ManlyTear 6 років тому +16

      I'd just want tanks to actually do the things they're meant to do: TANK and CC,leading to a good control over team a team fight,their damage being mostly over time so it depends directly on how long they last in a fight. Meanwhile, Rito does the opposite and nerfs those aspects while buffing their damage, turning them into these weird lane bullies that at the end of the day ain't all that great in team fights anymore. Feels shitty for both the tank player and the one laning against him. Those Sej changes where they went on extreme ends to do exactly that are probably one of many to come...
      It also always baffled me that for how "creative" Riot try to be, they're only really creative when it comes to ways of doing damage. They don't take any inspirations from how other multiplayer games make tanks, mmos especially, things that could work easily. There's very few damage reflecting abilities and they are only for AAs,none for abilities, none for magic damage, very few damage debuff mechanics, no mana/energy debuffs, or things that would increase the cooldown of the enemy abilities,I could go on...there's so much to do here but none of it is explored. Prolly because anything that's not flashy enough and especially something that would REDUCE the flashiness of other champs would be considered not that fun to watch and they have been pushing the game heavily towards that aspect over the last few years,especially s8.
      Ah league of legends, the game to spectate, but not play xD

    • @DefinitelyNotBandee
      @DefinitelyNotBandee 6 років тому

      Well said Sir!

    • @loudwhispre9406
      @loudwhispre9406 6 років тому

      Sorry that the other replies to this comment are so goddamn stupid. Everything you said correct to the letter.
      Before Thornmail rework + Bramblevest addition: Buy Randuins for the cold steel attack speed reduction, Sunfire for the damage to fight back, and Warmogs to match bruiser healing.
      Thornmail rework + Bramblevest addition: Bramblevest adds damage return like Bami's Cinder, reduces healing so you don't have to match a bruiser's innate HORSESHIT healing (Nasus having 12% lifesteal at level 1, ok sure, WHY THE FUCK NOT or Irelia healing on every Q, yeah makes sense.) and Bramblevest gives armor for the early game.
      It doesn't click for some people I guess. But thank you for saying it anyways.

  • @GilgameshGDLK
    @GilgameshGDLK 6 років тому

    I appreciate the rant with "Hurt" slowly building up a crescendo.

  • @rovingut5171
    @rovingut5171 6 років тому +5

    0:21 Guess we all know that feeling huh?

  • @masonfoster151
    @masonfoster151 6 років тому

    "iv'e never said conqueror shouldn't exist..(3 seconds later).. should conqueror exist? no"

  • @bluefiremarkii
    @bluefiremarkii 6 років тому

    "Should it exist, no it shouldn't exist." Goes on to say it has to exist. What he doesn't know, it's getting reworked.

  • @RShezmo
    @RShezmo 6 років тому +1

    So... Hashinshin wants the brusiers to have a version on steroids of grasp.

    • @Themeir
      @Themeir 6 років тому

      NERF GRASP BTW

  • @ntdb0ss
    @ntdb0ss 6 років тому

    How does this sound; every forth basic attack deals 2 percent max health damage and heals you for half that amount, while ignoring 50% armor for 3 second. 6 second coldown

  • @marcochavez92
    @marcochavez92 6 років тому +2

    -Riot doesnt put attencion to the game
    Buys GhostBlade*
    -Why im buying GhostBlade? I dont care
    Love it

  • @Vlad-xg7vx
    @Vlad-xg7vx 6 років тому +1

    Last time he said that sunfire cape falls so hard, no he says that its overpowered :DDDD

  • @Lovelle1
    @Lovelle1 6 років тому +34

    Tank itemization hasn't been good for years, it's just Bramble Vest that's stupid and shouldn't exist. It gives tanks the ability to shutdown bruisers, which completely removes any semblance of balance this game has. Conquerer also wouldn't need to exist if bruisers had real itemization choices outside of Cleaver and Tiamat.

    • @tobaccomarshall4659
      @tobaccomarshall4659 6 років тому

      Cleaver isn't even good now

    • @hyper_5pace902
      @hyper_5pace902 6 років тому +1

      @@tobaccomarshall4659 It's not that bad on certain champs. Ranged champions like Lucian and Jayce are very good at utilising the armour removal by following up swiftly with their ranged abilities.

    • @soleo2783
      @soleo2783 6 років тому +8

      @@hyper_5pace902 exactly, a bruiser item is better on ranged champs than on bruisers

    • @hyper_5pace902
      @hyper_5pace902 6 років тому

      @@soleo2783 Yeah true. But you could say the same for current essence reaver which was made for adcs but is currently a item used most effectively by jax who is a bruiser.

    • @soleo2783
      @soleo2783 6 років тому

      @@hyper_5pace902 yeah i never got why people say it was made for adcs, can you enlighten me?

  • @banditjuno6989
    @banditjuno6989 6 років тому

    love watching your videos. Makes me play league more and rage about facts. Hashinshin is so relatable and he speaks for me, i feel like. KNAYM SAYIN

  • @imme2763
    @imme2763 6 років тому

    Everyone needs some dose of Hashinshin in their lives

  • @lilbabygoated
    @lilbabygoated 6 років тому +5

    This video reminded me that reksai is a champion that exists

    • @Akario3
      @Akario3 6 років тому

      And despite her great ganks falls off stupidly hard if she doesn't go conqueror(which is trash in jungle).

  • @realityhumanity4619
    @realityhumanity4619 6 років тому

    He's basically saying "Nerf everything that counters bruisers so bruisers can be overpowered"

  • @honkai8692
    @honkai8692 6 років тому +1

    hashinshin is right, with all these stupid numbers, tank quickly become unstoppable in the mid game, but anti-tank items chunk the shit out of tanks, presision keystones like press the attack and conqueror is so broken it makes the entired classes of tank completely useless in the late game. tank dies in a split second in post 40 mins teamfight.

    • @cordgonsinged7676
      @cordgonsinged7676 6 років тому

      honkai you mean only conqueror, because PTA does no damage to a tank by itself. An adc with PTA might have ie and last whisper items to ignore lots of armor and do true danage crits, which is not at all PTAs fault

  • @lephrahepra6669
    @lephrahepra6669 5 років тому +1

    Riot buffed thorn mail wound time from 1sec to 3sec

  • @fiskblack1737
    @fiskblack1737 6 років тому

    This is why I love hashinshin. First couple of minutes "My jungler is so useless omg omg" | 5 minutes in "No one can ever be useless, they won't allow it". Shoutout to my boy Dom.

  • @imme2763
    @imme2763 6 років тому +16

    Can we nerf riven already?

    • @royalvarez24
      @royalvarez24 6 років тому

      What nerfs do you suggest?

    • @imme2763
      @imme2763 6 років тому +1

      Depends on what direction riot wants to take her. Right now she has both sustained damage (to shit on tanks) and burst (to instakill squishy's (which requires a lot of skill to execute perfectly, don't get me wrong)). She's strong early, mid and lategame. And has a lot of shields + healing (with death's dance). She kinda does it all.

  • @rehsadz2022
    @rehsadz2022 6 років тому

    Hash : can i get a counter gank
    Team : yes
    enemy team : * counter that counter gank *

  • @WorstZedTW
    @WorstZedTW 6 років тому

    6:04
    >waiting to complain how ridiculous the tank build is
    >speachless because he managed to took down half of his health

  • @babbababaabab
    @babbababaabab 6 років тому +2

    I feel like hashinshin is the flat earther of lol

  • @Mowadium
    @Mowadium 6 років тому +12

    S U P E R - T O P

  • @ItsMoejave
    @ItsMoejave 6 років тому

    "riven only has cds & is fucking disgustingly op"
    *plays kled*

  • @TeHPHoBoS999
    @TeHPHoBoS999 6 років тому

    The one thing hash has said that I haven't seen elsewhere is that tank items need synergy. That's how you balance tank items so everyone else can't take advantage of good items. Bruisers can have the good one-off items like cleaver and hydra.

  • @julianscheu8735
    @julianscheu8735 6 років тому

    Oh My Lord the BM is real! 6:03 god damn tommy 309 is a funny fuck!

  • @Locer1996
    @Locer1996 6 років тому

    THE MUSIC THO IT FITS SO WELL

  • @Nami-x
    @Nami-x 6 років тому

    Complaining about Riot, while the Caitlyn is a Riot employee (Riot Meekal)

  • @Qban_Guy
    @Qban_Guy 5 років тому

    Thornail used to be worse if I’m not mistaken? It would deal back a percentage of the damage taken. So pretty much any champ that had high crit chance would just kill themselves by attacking.

  • @TJskillz169
    @TJskillz169 6 років тому

    Seems like when Hashinshin isn't screeching and tilting out of his mind, he brings up great points. I've been thinking to myself lately that league's power is getting horrifically power crept, but never thought about just how much tanks have been power crept up too.

  • @spetsnazcammando
    @spetsnazcammando 6 років тому +3

    Back for my dose of Super top gameplay.

  • @storm0148
    @storm0148 6 років тому

    Hashinshin made an opsie
    OH YEAH YEAH OH YEAH YEAH HE VOTES FOR OBAMA

  • @dangdiggity9916
    @dangdiggity9916 6 років тому

    maybe they needa turn some tank item into active items (aka bramle only gave grevious on physical damage recieved (i think it should kinda be all targeted spells too or something like that, so there is a way for tankss to get grevious on ap healers, mostly vlad,but also gunblade builders especially akali and probably a more reasonable way to deal with soraka heals if youre fighting lets sat cassio + soraka botlane, not that youd want bramble/armor for it but still) but no damage return, and give it an active that gave it the damage return for 5 sec or something, then 8 sec when upgraded to thornmail)

    • @Ephringael
      @Ephringael 6 років тому

      I agree! Tank items should be active items. Just give me Blademail from Dota 2.

  • @Hadhoudtn
    @Hadhoudtn 6 років тому +4

    For some reason, even if I disagree with what hashinshin says (In my opinion he says a lot of wrong informations etc) but I still enjoy watching his rants XD

  • @thelittlesagg2
    @thelittlesagg2 6 років тому

    Chadshinshin listening to NFS OST? Pog

  • @dingil2052
    @dingil2052 6 років тому

    Its actually nice that hashinshin has become a lot calmer, now you can actually take him serious because he actually makes some good points.
    But before that his raging would overshadow everything.

    • @coldheaven2584
      @coldheaven2584 6 років тому

      He is usually calm, only his rage footage are on reddit

  • @mort6578
    @mort6578 6 років тому

    Why do people say he knows so much? Riot fails to balance every role...

  • @RedStoneLife
    @RedStoneLife 6 років тому

    Damm i remember the days when only a few champs has true dmg in theyr kit (Ahri, Vayne ..) when tanks could be killed without the universal true dmg stat that is now ...

  • @oscar4674
    @oscar4674 6 років тому

    guys, whats with the summoner name, "we will dominate"?

  • @youssefb3412
    @youssefb3412 6 років тому +1

    My future aborted child is obsessed with Chadshinshin. She found his address and loves to go through his trash. She even built a shrine of him in her closet. Children are truly amazing

  • @blop-a-blop9419
    @blop-a-blop9419 6 років тому

    I like Hashinshin, but what I like even better is Singed goofing around and fooling Kled :P 6:00

  • @willofthewisp9864
    @willofthewisp9864 6 років тому

    I love how he skips over the fact that cold steel counteracts thornmails whole point.

  • @mightybatillo
    @mightybatillo 6 років тому

    Hashinshin is the kind of guy that dives 1 vs 3 then complains he has no team LMAO

  • @allthatihaveisallthatyougi6649
    @allthatihaveisallthatyougi6649 6 років тому

    *TANK* You for uploading

  • @MrAlexDeidara
    @MrAlexDeidara 6 років тому

    wait a second , wasnt he saying that tanks are so weak right now?

  • @Hotwopper
    @Hotwopper 6 років тому +1

    I remember playing Kled vs tanks when conqueror didn't exist and oh boy you do no damage to them, and they kill you anyways. I'm on hashinshin's side this time

  • @PedroomSessions
    @PedroomSessions 6 років тому

    Riot should hire Hashinshin as part of the balancing team. Let's see how League turns out HAHA

  • @donwalker1011
    @donwalker1011 6 років тому +2

    Man, I miss the old tank meta
    The best damage taken class

    • @octoslut
      @octoslut 6 років тому +1

      cause the retarded op conq didn't exist
      hey lets give every champ true damage xD heheh - riot games

    • @DefinitelyNotBandee
      @DefinitelyNotBandee 6 років тому

      @@octoslut Hey, be happy that the scuttlecrab doesn't deal true dmg. YET!

  • @solemvow6281
    @solemvow6281 6 років тому +10

    They wouldnt make a class useless..... ADC 2018

    • @PagingDoctorGuy
      @PagingDoctorGuy 6 років тому +3

      Solem Vow see lucian and kai’sa and jhin and twitch and draven and varus and tristana for adcs that still dumpster anyone in bot lane trying to be a soyboy mage.

    • @royalvarez24
      @royalvarez24 6 років тому +1

      @@PagingDoctorGuy you forgot vayne on that list of yours

  • @NedGroomeFilms
    @NedGroomeFilms 6 років тому +1

    So basically I use to be jungle main and was super pissed with 9.2 patch notes, now that Im maining top dear god am i so happy jungle is being nerfed

  • @Oblivion0fate
    @Oblivion0fate 6 років тому

    As soon as he said "i didnt say conqueror shouldn't exist" i thought of 4 Sphere videos where he said exactly that. I watch too much hashin.

  • @AstrumVerith
    @AstrumVerith 6 років тому +1

    In his Ornn video he complained about the weakness of tank items and now tank items are too good? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • @RockTheEternal
      @RockTheEternal 6 років тому

      I do remember his example, that 2 item Sion easily pounds a 2 item adc, but when a 6 item sion goes after 6 item adc with tankbuster items, sion just dies- weakness in late game, powercreep early-mid

  • @MadCatzLover
    @MadCatzLover 6 років тому

    Hash should get you as an Editor!

  • @neilmagsino9375
    @neilmagsino9375 6 років тому

    Hashinshin: BuT HaShInShIn

  • @speeddemon9616
    @speeddemon9616 6 років тому +5

    I don't care if riot turns around tomorrow and made the literal best game ever, riot games with years up-on years of bs after bs, will never endorse there shit, now i get the whole corporate stuff, that not on riot, but failure and blatant disrespect to players year after year, buffing random shit nerfing already weak stuff buff strong champs cause they need a lil more over kill damage, Cho actually being really broken if a game goes pass 20mins and the player isn't brain dead, it's clear that riot is banking on the weebs who literally want to be like faker, and thats okay, if any one want to play a moba where you get 1 shoot for not playing perfect we'll play Dota2. I mean Galio is a thing, his q was a bug that they never found how to fix after about 8months come to say they leaving it cause it makes him fun, then if double tick damage wasn't enough they buffed the scaling on it, new urgot trash champ, fun design but trash champ his ult has the hit box a tresh fun, lee sin getting base damage increased soo many times i can't count soo did nar and yasuo.
    And the biggest offender to me is reverting champs and calling it buffs and nerf, just stop riot.

    • @jaronbeard6
      @jaronbeard6 6 років тому +1

      Dont blame riot blame there fucking balance team everything else is good its just there weak link is the most important link

    • @proxayyyy7191
      @proxayyyy7191 6 років тому

      @@jaronbeard6 And who employs said people?

    • @proxayyyy7191
      @proxayyyy7191 6 років тому

      @@jaronbeard6 but riot can just employ different people
      and make it a non weak leak
      riot is the fault for employing the weak link

  • @michaelstatia4493
    @michaelstatia4493 6 років тому +15

    Couple days ago "tanks are weak asf". Today "how to balance tanks"

    • @Joshu223
      @Joshu223 6 років тому +2

      Balancing doesnt mean that something is OP in first place. You can also balance weak things

  • @Feligresa
    @Feligresa 6 років тому

    Funny how people still didn't understand that Riot "balances" for the sake of change, not for the sake of balance.

  • @NextGame1004
    @NextGame1004 6 років тому +4

    a Tank is completly useless if he doesnt have any damage pressure. Tank Meta is always good because when Tanks are Meta, Teamfights are always 5v5. No Splitpushing bullshit. The Game is actually a 5v5 Game when Tanks are in Meta. And thats why i love Tanks. If they dont deal any damage, then hell no nobody is gonna play them. Tanks make League of Legends a 5v5 Game and not a boring 4v4 game with 2 splitpusher fighting each other permanently with one feeding their ass off. I liked the time where you had toplane and jungle both played tanks and the rest was damage and 1 utility like janna or lulu. That was a good time because it was a real nice 5v5 game. Everyone grouped in the mid game and was fighting for objectives.
    Now its all about the bruiser. Whoever has the better splitpusher wins. Thas lame

  • @sebastiankramergarfias7365
    @sebastiankramergarfias7365 6 років тому +1

    can someone tell me the title of the song playing in the background please.

  • @xMrKadik
    @xMrKadik 6 років тому +2

    I just don't get one thing in his logic. He constantly complains how there's too much damage in game. Now he complains tanks are too strong cause you don't deal enough damage to them?

  • @gasoline9456
    @gasoline9456 6 років тому

    I'm guilty of maining grasp sunfire rush sion and while I do agree with it being op in an ok team it kind of needs to be so tanks can at least try to solocarry, which bruisers do much better. I'd be fine with nerfs too though, maybe one day I'll get teammates that compare to the enemy team

  • @cammro
    @cammro 6 років тому

    thornmail isn't a tank item, it's a dueling item. sunfire cloak is a tank item. they both do about the same damage in the scenario u want them in if u work it out. sunfire is encouraging you to deal with them and thornmail is discouraging you from dealing with them.
    bUt hAShiNshin... if tank items are so op, why doesn't everyone build them? like he's not building them, i already know an answer cos oddone said it: "damage wins games" and u can expand that and built strategies from that. as long as a xerath can clear a wave, as long as u can facecheck bushes to ward baron with a bulkier member, as long as ur crit ADC is getting farm, u beat out cheesy un-optimal (but no player in league outside of top 500 will know that because riot has had an enforced meta where u pick a role, and your team dodges if u try anything different) . also turns out none of these armour+health items are 100% gold efficient on stats, meanwhile black cleaver: 100%, sterak's, and titanic both gold efficient when u get them as a 2nd or 3rd item. ps. before those items, you didn't have an itemisation, isn't the game in a better spot than ever for playing as a bruiser, rather than building hydra, then realising assassin olaf isn't a thing and building randuin's or maw or something, you now get powerspikes because all of your items have actives and random shields that activate that mean you can do things in a teamfight or on a dive.
    i do love these rant videos, i've been watching them for a while, and he's had such a long experience with different real time strategy games that i think, maybe, i respect his angle a little bit, nevertheless he acknowledges he plays the game for money, and his angle in these rants seems to come down to "if i can't play the champions i want to play in my idealist way of playing, the game is wrong,"
    i can give an example in a realm im more comfortable with. FIFA BOYZZZ, if i play 442 i accept that any 3 man midfield formation is gonna fuck me over in the middle of the pitch, but if i get a counter attack i have 4 people forward, if he gets one, he gets 3. that's a result of the strategy i'm running, that's a pro and con of it. he plays kled, a lane bully. he knows his strategy is i win 1v1, if u camp top / make top safe i snowball and we win, on my precedence and ability to take over top side jungle. so he complains about jungles not realising that and then he gets these positions where his lane bully strat didn't work and his champion is now worthless and has no strategy. (and off that u could say fifa is a better strategy game cos u can change formation and strats rather than "me outscaled, me lose" but dont say too much).
    i'm pretty sure riot has massively fucked up the melee spectrum in top lane, the 2 biggest baddest lane bullies up there are jayce and fiora, they shit on everyone equally. and then the next tier of lane bullies have kled, darius and renekton, who dont bully as hard, but have some teamfighty stuff in-built, like tanky ults, self heals, light CC. and then u keep going until you're in the late game scaling, like jax, malphite, percent damage, percent healing fucks like mundo, is nautilus one? maokai. but then you realise that poppy, urgot, kennen, aatrox, akali and sion don't fit on that spectrum, there's no real weak point in their game. also Gnar exists. face it, i don't think that spectrum of melees is a thing anymore. everyone meta in top lane is always relevant, behind, ahead, can win lane, can win teamfight, and probably more important to riot can lose teamfights. they all have outplayable things.
    sorry i'm not an expert. anything wrong go ahead and correct it. but i dont care about your opinion if you do plan on arguing

  • @JonesJoeson
    @JonesJoeson 6 років тому +1

    He mustve aced his english classes!

  • @alaistairlee7557
    @alaistairlee7557 6 років тому

    Shhhh another spherestalker vid is coming

  • @Mowadium
    @Mowadium 6 років тому +15

    dude why did u upload now i was about to sleep

  • @michalrejdovjan7298
    @michalrejdovjan7298 5 років тому

    NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGED

  • @lucasbiermann257
    @lucasbiermann257 6 років тому

    the funny thing is that if they do what he says the game will be worse cause it will still be shitty in a different way but the games would take like 30min if you are lucky and the normal amount would be 45 50 min that way people would start to leave even faster. i am glad he is not in the ski...balance team

  • @frostjoke40
    @frostjoke40 6 років тому +2

    his contradicting his orn video

  • @krystiangolus2841
    @krystiangolus2841 6 років тому

    and then balance team said: let there be a mundo on full tank build, dealing more damage than fed yasuo, while outhealing tower shots and enemy adc

  • @danneltheflannel
    @danneltheflannel 6 років тому

    Wait what is this k kona music doing on his stream?

  • @gizmobrooch8577
    @gizmobrooch8577 6 років тому +1

    I think void staff 100% needs a nerf to magic pen%. It should not fucking be 40%. It should be 15% and increase the Ap on the item by 40. Since the item wouldnt be great

    • @swrml7375
      @swrml7375 6 років тому

      dont know about the number but mages in general need a nerf

    • @gizmobrooch8577
      @gizmobrooch8577 6 років тому

      @@swrml7375 void needs to be gutted. You shouldnt be able to get 700 or more ap. While having 33-40 magic pen. and 40% pen. You pretty much do true dmg to adcs, and a lot of bruisers. Fuck even tanks are taking near true damage. I feel like mage items have only been buffed the past 2 years. Most have way to much shit in their. for the cost. Like its an issue. The game has been an issue this last year and a half.
      I bet it doesnt help that they have to re work akali and irelia again. Along side adc items for like the 3rd time this year.

  • @bangaranggames480
    @bangaranggames480 6 років тому

    holy shit hashinshin.... at 2:40-2:55 you actually (for once in the past 3 years, or maybe i dont watch you regularly enough) spoke the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. i come to your stream or youtube to laugh at you. but this is goddamn gold. tanks are too strong early, and too weak late. your statement sums it up. respect brother, keep stomping or feeding...

  • @jacibeag213
    @jacibeag213 6 років тому

    I dont think they need to remove thornmail, just bring it back to what it used to be.

  • @GeninGeo
    @GeninGeo 6 років тому +1

    Bramble vest is broken but thronmail is useless because they took away what made it useful the damage refelect . Tank items have not been powercreeped bramble vest is just broken in lane hash is off his rocker cause if tank items were powercreeped fighters would benifit by being able to go 2 powercreeped tank items then going power creeped adc items (which belogned to fighters first). Hash keeps confusing fighters being shit because riot doesnt give them damage on their items to keep them from adcs instead of just melee locking the items with tanks being powerful. Riot doesnt want bruisers to exist as their own class they want them to be the walking damage buff station for adcs and mages using black cleaver and abyssal mask respectively which would make them 'good' in team fights but hash keeps asking to be good in team fights (do aoe) instead of just doing your job in teamfights by doing single target damage to a high priority target assuming that mages and adcs stop getting more and more defensive failsafes for being caught.
    Bramble wasnt made to be 'anti bruiser' it was made to be anti adc while nerfing the thornmail that was actually anti adc and to give tanks a way to use grevious wounds so adcs didnt use them as mobile healing stations. It happened to fuk over fighters in the laning phase because fighters do less damage than adcs per auto attack and most fighters dont have sustain or build it anymore because they have to build enough defense to survive or forgo all defense to build damage to basicly be an assassin instead of a fighter ie look at hash's build and his build in all these videos (only fiora is diffrent because fiora is basicly ranged with her q), thats just hash talking bullshit. And Thornmail having damage for hitting it and having an attack speed slow is anti synergising with itself and a 1second grevious wounds proc is absolutely nothing they if bramble and thornmail can only get a 1 second proc then Executioners calling and mortal reminder need a .5 second proc. 250hp for 20 armor was not worth it espeically when thornmail was THE big armor buy item.

    • @Ephringael
      @Ephringael 6 років тому

      9 Damage. Assuming 100 armor on the tank, and an average magic damage reduction of 30% on the attacker, Bramble deals nine damage to the attacker.
      Who's a champion Hashinshin hates? Oh, Viktor! Yeah, lets say Riot nerfed Viktor's overall DPS by 9 to prevent him from being viable top. He'd probably go on a rant about how Riot was a joke and that nine damage is nothing.
      Nine damage.

    • @GeninGeo
      @GeninGeo 6 років тому

      @@Ephringael That would be a joke nerf because 1 Tanks easily surpass 100 damage and usually go from bramble vest into bambi's cinder into sunfire cape. Viktor being a mage doesnt rely on auto attack so he doesnt have to worry about procing bramble vest and even when he does auto attack he does it after casting q so the damage would be absorbed by viktors shield.
      It's a problem for fighters because they rely on auto weaving to do any damage and riot took away their raw damage on their items and supplemented it with less than equal health. while magic resist is such a garbage stats on base stats and items that you'd need 2 full magic resist items to start dropping damage from bramble cinderhulk tank skills and mage skills but fighters cant build more than one slot for magic resist due to having to build at least 2 armor items to survive walking in an adcs poke range and having to build 3 damage items or else they cant do anything to an adc mage or assassin who comes after them.

  • @volfstone6054
    @volfstone6054 6 років тому

    "they're never gonna allowed an entire class to be useless" like adcs for the past 8 months ?

    • @Ephringael
      @Ephringael 6 років тому

      Class is still mandatory in 90% of games, but is useless. Got it.

  • @thanhdohuu9473
    @thanhdohuu9473 6 років тому +2

    Didn't he also whine about tank items being too weak in the "problems with tank items" vid when he was playing as Orn? That a single void staff can have 40% pen And that tank items should scale and have some sort of synergy ?

    • @Ephringael
      @Ephringael 6 років тому

      Yes, yes he was. Hashinshin changes his opinions on a dime. I love watching him play, but he just rants about whatever is frustrating him that day.

    • @ChoppersRevenge
      @ChoppersRevenge 6 років тому

      @@Ephringael Are you guys too stupid or just really want to shit on Hashinshin ?
      These 2 are not mutually excluding statements. Tank items are stupidly strong within the first 5-10 minutes you buy them, but late game you might as well sell em and go full dmg, cause you will die just as fast. And void staff is a stupid item, it makes buying mr completly useless on its own almost.

    • @Ephringael
      @Ephringael 6 років тому

      @@ChoppersRevenge I don't disagree with his opinion on voidstaff, MR itemizations is horrible and FoN should be brought back, but to say bramble is broken is ridiculous. It does nine damage after resistances, about once every second only when you auto attack a given champion, and applies grievous wounds for one second. The reason he finds it so strong, is because he chooses, mind you, chooses, to play champions that are auto attack reliant, and include some sort of auto attack reset or other way to increase the attack speed. That, of course, causes him to take more damage from bramble. However, bramble also reduces the attack speed of the attacker, which he himself pointed out. That actually makes the item less efficient as a source of damage after the first hit, and also assumes your opponent had that high of attack speed to begin with. Chances are, its going to return 9 damage every 1.3 seconds. This is also assuming the person with a bramble has a combined armor value of at least 100 by the time he completes it. Otherwise, the damage is lower.
      Do you know why bramble has all that stuff it does? I'll let you in on a little secret, its because otherwise its only 70% gold efficient. 30% of the gold cost has to be made up elsewhere because resistances are shit, and have been shit since season 3.

  • @anarchistlilia
    @anarchistlilia 5 років тому

    0:37 SKARL GİVE ME SOME FUKİN HELP

  • @Sekkizan
    @Sekkizan 6 років тому

    like how there is no tank in his game lol

  • @gfysanthony4005
    @gfysanthony4005 6 років тому

    1:03 - ''thats the first gank i get''. so we just gunna pretend that the very first clip you showed in this video wasnt jarvin ganking you?

  • @ionutsaviuc94
    @ionutsaviuc94 6 років тому

    this is very true, i went hail of blades darius against mundo, without the true dmg or cleaver,i couldnt scratch him

    • @bonnierodriguez8821
      @bonnierodriguez8821 6 років тому

      FRIUS - GAMING CLIPS & GAMEPLAY well obviously, u need to get cleaver with some grevious wounds

  • @hhfoglia1629
    @hhfoglia1629 6 років тому

    much love
    Tommy
    3
    0
    9
    he always pulls me a smile

  • @hentaionicewithranchdressi5466
    @hentaionicewithranchdressi5466 6 років тому

    Hash cant blame a lockdown champ, its the junglers fault not choosing other choices

  • @noneofyourbusiness3288
    @noneofyourbusiness3288 6 років тому

    I dont think they power crept tank items. Or rather they did, but only armor which was kinda necessary considering what they did to adcs. Also: Fiora. And dont even get me started on magic resist. There are a lot of decent armor items, but mr ? Nothing. And even if you buy the shitty mr-items that are in the game, void-staff exists, so gg.