Correction at 4:15. Ole Miss actually has the 5th highest strength of schedule, so they would probably get in over Texas or Texas A&M. Let me know down below who y’all would put in the playoffs!
Are you kidding me? This is why it’s so great that we’ve expanded We get all the great games that matter from having no divisions we get all the extra games with meaningful playoff implications with the 12 team playoffs but the large conferences still mean that you still really can’t afford any upsets and still be guaranteed to shot at your conference championship It’s literally the best of all worlds What are you talking about?
In order for FSU to get into the playoffs, I think every team in FBS would need to lose the rest of their remaining games (which is impossible) and FSU would need to win the rest of their games by quadruple digits (which would also be impossible)
Auburn always seems to have one crazy game at home each year where they look like championship contenders, regardless of how inept they look the rest of the time. So it’s not impossible. But I agree your scenario seems more likely
That & 9 conference games. It's insane to have only 8 conference games when u have 16 teams in a conference. Divisions were great cuz they took away the stupidity of possibly having an 8 way tie & made travel cost a bit less.
@@randomnerd2332 Honestly, I'd be all for going to 10 conference games. With the increased roster size allowances and NIL budgets at top schools continuing to balloon, the gap between the big conferences and FCS schools is just going to get wider. There's absolutely no reason to continue to play games against the likes of Mercer and Tennessee Tech.
@@FritzTheCat_1030 Mercer and Tennessee tech get money from playing like a Alabama or Georgia.. Alabama is expected to pay the Bears $600,000, The University of Georgia paid Tennessee Tech $550,000. shit my team Ducks gave Idaho 740,000k to play.
There’s a problem you left out: Texas A&M might be tied for the top of the league, but they’d have 3 total losses (ND, South Carolina, Auburn). They’re for sure left out, which means Tennessee would make the CFP with Mizzou on the outside looking in. Even with a big win vs. Texas a 3-loss A&M won’t make the playoffs
Fair point, so perhaps Ole Miss and Tennessee get in with Texas and Texas A&M staying at home. Crazy to think about since all of those teams seem to be playoff worthy to me
If the SEC played 10 in conference games the only SEC team in the playoffs would be the conference champs. The mutual losses would stack up and the committee would use that as an excuse to pick all the undefeated or 1 loss cupcake teams like Indiana and Washington St to be in the playoffs.
@harambenights1051 well..they know how to schedule the big schools just like any other team..they should take a chance and play the USC and Penn state every once in a while or broaden the division by having a mandatory west division game and get rid of freaking UMASS or Kent state..it'll only help in the long run
@harambenights1051 I wouldn't call it a weak east. If they did East West it's most likely Alabama & Auburn get moved to the east while Mizzou gets flipped to the west with the new additions of Texas & Oklahoma. That means there would very likely a 3 way race for the east in Bama, UGA, & Tennessee with the likes of South Carolina playing spoiler as Georgia didn't play them this year.
I think this just proves that the SEC needs to move to 9 conference games. Since there’s no overlap in common opponents, it’s really hard to compare teams and with the tiebreakers, things get messy quickly
As a Bama fan, it’s insane to me how likely it is we make the SECCG. Pretty much all we need to happen is to win out, Georgia to beat Tennessee, and Texas to beat A&M. Anything else is icing on the cake
@@arlibrarian - I think it more likely that Texas beats both teams, Texas will win the conference, and the winner of Georgia and Tennessee being the second place team.
I think it’s crazy that the losing team of the SEC championship game doesn’t make the CFP. But you’re probably right. I haven’t heard much discussion about it yet. I wondered what would happen if the SEC has 5 2 loss teams. 12 team CFP is going to have a lot of controversy.
Well the problem with LSU losing and being left out is that they wouldn’t have 3 losses but 4. You couldn’t reasonably put them above a team like Mizzou whose only fault in the record is 2 losses to top 12 teams, IMO.
LSU getting in the championship and then the playoffs with 3 losses is hilarious lol. Reminds me of LSU in the BCS era running through the title with 2 losses and everyone was like the heck? LSU winning the first 12 team playoff with 3 losses would be absolute meme tier
Texas got a relatively easy slate their first season, while Oklahoma had to go through Tennessee, Texas, South Carolina, Ole Miss and Mizzou and finishing with Alabama and LSU. An insanely brutal conference schedule. Texas has had Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Georgia, Vanderbilt and Florida, ending with Arkansas, Kentucky and A&M. Texas has by far the easiest conference schedule in the league this year.
And people are going to say the playoff is unfair to the SEC because it won’t be 8 SEC teams, even though “the playoff will be all SEC teams” was a major *complaint* about playoff expansion!
I mean the East has Tennessee as a very good team with good teams in South Carolina, Vanderbilt and Mizzou. If Georgia draws Mississippi State alongside Auburn then yeah, that’s a super easy conference schedule
I didn't believe you at first that they don't all have a common conference opponent, but I looked at the schedules and they really don't. Not having that 10th conference game really makes a big difference.
Why play a 9th or 10th conference game when all the teams in the conference are top 50 and 10-12 teams are top 30. The committee only cares about record not strength of record or strength of schedule. Just play a schedule like Indiana Penn state Miami or byu and 80% of the SEC would be undefeated.
The most likely scenario where the tiebreaker comes into play will be if Tennessee beats Georgia. That would make the most probable championship match up Alabama vs Texas.
Unfortunately the SEC (or any conference for that matter) can’t set up a conference tournament bracket in CFB due to the strain on resources like budget, time, and manpower.
That is probably the weakest excuse. These schools make tens of millions of dollars, the big ones over 100 million. They could easily extend football season a few weeks for tournaments. The stronger teams keep playing, the weaker teams rest up while watching.
The CFP has said publicly that they will not weigh conference championship loses when selecting the playoff, since it unfairly punishes teams that played an extra game. If LSU won in this scenario, Alabama would still have a chance to make it in
I just can’t imagine a scenario where a 4 loss LSU gets into the playoffs like some have suggested. Mizzou would have 2 losses to top 12 teams but would presumably be left out for LSU while LSU has 3 losses to top 15 teams (2 Alabama, 1 A&M, don’t know where A&M ends up) and a loss to unranked USC. 4 loss LSU getting in would be a grave mistake.
This is all Vanderbilt fault, playing them this year improved everyone's SOS and the fact they won a few including Alabama but lost to Missouri really sends it into chaos, dont be surprised if a team like Missouri sneaks in just like how Missouri and kansas ended up 1 and 2 in 2007, all it takes is alittle more chaos and you have 3 loss teams at the current top with Missouri being a 2-0 loss if they can beat SC
Even if they don’t all win out, his scenario leading to Ga, Tenn, Texas, and TxA&M tying at 6-2 could still result in a 7-way or 6-way tie at 6-2, etc.
There are 128 D1 FBS football teams. I think there should be 8 "conferences" with 16 teams, including good, decent, and relatively bad teams, that way each conference has a fair playing field. All teams play 12 games, with all 12 games being in conference. There should be a 16 team playoff, with the 8 conference champions receiving a first round BYE, while the conference runner-ups all play in the first round. Completely take the human aspect out of it. If there are multiple teams in one conference with the same record, you go to points for vs points against to determine the top 2 of said conference. For instance, there could be a "South" conference that has Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Ole Miss, but also South Alabama, LA Tech, Southern Miss, etc.
If you have 8 conference champs getting a bye, you need at least 16 more teams to give them all opponents in the second round. At that rate it’d be like the FCS tourney with 24 total teams
Man my Bulldogs need to pull it together. Tennessee is ALWAYS TOUGH. Respect to Tennessee but yall going down , we down 2 games and need to be Mad AF!!
I’d expect tennessee to get in over texas based on the bama win. I think texas has to win out bc 8-way tie or not, there’s almost certainly gonna be a 2 loss sec team left out, and it texas plays two good sec teams (uga and a&m) and loses both of them, they’re gonna be that 2 loss team that’s left out. choosing between tennessee and ole miss would be the tough decision, and honestly i’d expect ole miss to edge out tennessee, if only bc of the timing of utk’s second loss, but maybe that depends on how tennessee loses to uga in this scenario.
Honestly missing the playoffs might be a better look for mizzou. With how disappointing the seasons been they can still walk away a ranked 11-2 team with a bowl game win which is where they were last year vs 10-3 and a higher risk of an embarrassing performance on an even bigger stage.
You immediately eliminated "head to head" as a tie-breaker, but didn't fully explain why. Amongst the eight tied teams, some of them would have worse head-to-head records than others, and those teams would (should) be removed from consideration. Head-to-head isn't just for two tied teams; it can be for any number.
Allow me to elaborate here. Head to head can only be used if all of the tied teams have played each other or if one of the tied teams has beaten all of the other tied teams. Look at a 3-way tie for example, if team A beat team B and team C, then team A gets a spot in the title game even if team B and C did not play each other. In this 8-way tie scenario, there is not a single team that played all of the other teams, so head to head cannot be used since there is no single team to base it on.
If texas loses to Texas AM they have no ranked wins. No way that team with the same record gets in over an Ole Miss team that destroyed a great South Carolina team and a Georgia team you have getting in the playoffs. Not to mention both of Ole miss's losses are very flukey, super close games where they should've won but choked at the end.
The way could Georgia could even TRY and im saying this as a UGA fan BENCH. CARSON. BECK. You have a 5 star QB for a reason Gunner Stockton has potential just use him.
If the sec were like the B1G with 12-14 mediocre top 40-80 ranked teams, 9 games would actually help the conference. But with 12 top 35 teams, it’s just going to punish too many highly ranked teams with extra losses so a bunch of mediocre teams with patsycake schedules can jump them for playoff spots of bowl games and money.
@@coreytrevor6276yes but hard to tell who’s actually good when everyone’s W total is padded by playing an extra game against some FCS school. Right now the mediocre teams are just there to prop up the resumes of the better teams
Unfortunately for UGA I just don’t know if they can get a W? I thought they were the best team in the country after the Texas game but they keep doing a jeckyl and hide imitation!! Also I think A&M is out with a loss to Texas. 2 loss Bama and Ole Miss get in before them as well as Tennessee and Texas.
texas could easily lose at arkansas this week. they SHOULD win but I trust arkansas in this spot a lot more than I trust this auburn team even if the bookies have auburn as only single digit dogs. and that would mean that texas would just have to win as a favorite at a&m in the last week for the tie (although depending on results maybe a&m will be favored by then)
Just because the SEC might (very unlikely) have an 8-way tie, doesn't mean they'd have 8 teams in the playoff. Fanboys are so delusional about thinking the expansion is all about one conference.
I could see Texas winning out, and Georgia beating Tennessee at home. - In this case you will have a 1 loss Texas, 2 loss Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss, and LSU. - Texas and Alabama will go to the conference title game. - If Bama beats Texas, we will have a 2 loss Texas, Georgia, Tennessee and Ole Miss competing for the 7 at large playoff spots. - In such scenario the committee will have to drop one of these 2 loss teams out, or they have to let them all in and leave Notre Dame out.
Not necessarily. As many have pointed out here the CFP has said that they will not penalize the losing team in a conference championship for playing an extra game. However in this crazy 8-way tie scenario LSU is in the title game with 3 losses, so if they lose they are certainly out of the playoffs simply by having those 3 losses beforehand. A disaster scenario for the CFP would be if this 8 way tie happens and LSU wins the conference championship game. Then the committee would have to pick 3 SEC teams out of Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas A&M, and Missouri. Personally I would love to see something that chaotic happen this year.
A conference so poorly managed it can’t separate the excellent teams from the mediocre teams-so the SEC solution stuff a 12-team National Tournament full of its also rans for rematches and games that should have been instead of adding teams from throughout the Nation that have performed as well or better on the field (Colorado, Boise St., BYU, Wazzu). Does the SEC even know what it’s best teams are this year in 2024-all have losses and since they want to talk about losses over wins, all of the losses were ugly. Was there an equivalent loss like OSU at Autzen-not even close. What’s the best SEC loss. Georgia at Bama 😆😆😆
what do you mean there were no head to head match ups or common opponents among the 8 teams????? were you freaking high or something cause it seems you still were thinking about the last 4 games when considering all that lmao common conference opponents uh both ole miss and bama played georgia and LSU . tenn and alabama both play Georgia . bama beat and Texas a&m both beat Mizzou . I could go on. am I missing something cause I am deff high right now and its 5 am .
What about Vanderbilt?!? Vanderbilt! Vanderbilt! Vanderbilt! They would beat any other team in the Nation at home not in the SEC or named Georgia St. The SEC is so good, it can’t separate its excellent teams from it good or mediocre teams-let’s put them all in a National Tournament. Leave out teams they didn’t play but would obviously defeat if they did play. 🤣🤣🤣
Georgia fans said last week there was no way they could lose to ole miss and look what happened, if it’s any time for Tennessee to beat the dawgs it’s now.
@@FamilyOvaEverythng im an olemiss fan. I just believe that outside that de pierce or whatever their defense aint sbit and the secret to heupals offense is stop the run. You do that they struggle badly
What the SEC needs is 4 divisions , Texas , Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, TN , KY, SC, Vandy, Fl, GA, LSU, Auburn Miss, Miss st, Ala, Arkansas The division winners have a playing game to the SEC championship.
@ Uhhh, do you not remember the big 10 west? Or FSU and Clemson being in the same division. Or heck, even in the SEC, the west division was way better than the east over the last decade +. The goal is to get the two best teams in the conference facing each other in the conference championship. When you have divisions, that isn’t the case most years. Again, there’s a reason most conferences have abandoned it
Correction at 4:15. Ole Miss actually has the 5th highest strength of schedule, so they would probably get in over Texas or Texas A&M. Let me know down below who y’all would put in the playoffs!
The problem is, you'd have to count on Auburn to win.
Not happening
That's a big problem lol they biggest shot is at Bama... They play them like the Super Bowl anyway lol
Crazier things have happened in the Iron Bowl
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The funny thing is that if this was still a 4 team playoff, there's a solid chance the SEC would knock itself out of contention this season
Like the Pac-12 in the late 2010s
It just means more.
this is why we need to go back to 10/12 team confrences
yeah I agree
Are you kidding me? This is why it’s so great that we’ve expanded
We get all the great games that matter from having no divisions we get all the extra games with meaningful playoff implications with the 12 team playoffs but the large conferences still mean that you still really can’t afford any upsets and still be guaranteed to shot at your conference championship
It’s literally the best of all worlds What are you talking about?
I agree with going back to 10 or 12 team conferences but you chose the worst possible video to comment this on this scenario would be fantastic
Or, you know, the SEC could actually play _nine_ conference games like other conference do.
@ that too. No way Oklahoma should be playing MAINE in November
How does FSU get in?
I hope that’s a joke
The Multiverse
In order for FSU to get into the playoffs, I think every team in FBS would need to lose the rest of their remaining games (which is impossible) and FSU would need to win the rest of their games by quadruple digits (which would also be impossible)
With a time machine
@@OreoWaffles44 I think even you are being optimistic. Nothing short of thermonuclear war.
Auburn beating Texas A&M would be impossible. I'd rather bet on Texas losing to Arkansas then beating A&M
Games at Auburn are never set in stone. Weird stuff happens there.
No one thought vandy would beat bama and that happened. Or south Carolina rolling over a and m but both happened this season so.
Auburn always seems to have one crazy game at home each year where they look like championship contenders, regardless of how inept they look the rest of the time. So it’s not impossible. But I agree your scenario seems more likely
@ammazer1229 especially at night, which this game will be.
Never count out Auburn losing to a terrible team and beating someone twice as good as them, this happens almost every year
We need divisions back this experiment has failed spectacularly. Makes for great television tho
That & 9 conference games. It's insane to have only 8 conference games when u have 16 teams in a conference. Divisions were great cuz they took away the stupidity of possibly having an 8 way tie & made travel cost a bit less.
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@@randomnerd2332 Honestly, I'd be all for going to 10 conference games. With the increased roster size allowances and NIL budgets at top schools continuing to balloon, the gap between the big conferences and FCS schools is just going to get wider. There's absolutely no reason to continue to play games against the likes of Mercer and Tennessee Tech.
@@FritzTheCat_1030 Mercer and Tennessee tech get money from playing like a Alabama or Georgia.. Alabama is expected to pay the Bears $600,000, The University of Georgia paid Tennessee Tech $550,000. shit my team Ducks gave Idaho 740,000k to play.
@@MrThhg right. and what does that do for the big picture in the playoff race...
There’s a problem you left out: Texas A&M might be tied for the top of the league, but they’d have 3 total losses (ND, South Carolina, Auburn). They’re for sure left out, which means Tennessee would make the CFP with Mizzou on the outside looking in.
Even with a big win vs. Texas a 3-loss A&M won’t make the playoffs
Fair point, so perhaps Ole Miss and Tennessee get in with Texas and Texas A&M staying at home. Crazy to think about since all of those teams seem to be playoff worthy to me
If the SEC played a 9th conference game, a lot of this would sort itself out.
You mean 9th...9th has to happen before a 10th could occur.
@@DrShannonsTravelBuddy I thought they already played 9. Jeepers.
If the SEC played 10 in conference games the only SEC team in the playoffs would be the conference champs. The mutual losses would stack up and the committee would use that as an excuse to pick all the undefeated or 1 loss cupcake teams like Indiana and Washington St to be in the playoffs.
@@Bladin84 The committee is looking for excuses to EXCLUDE the SEC teams? Now I've heard it all. But that's cool, because I'm a big fan of fiction.
nobody plays ten conference games
Back in the old days, when there were 10 teams and no divisions, there were ties in the final standings all the time.
I was just talking about that last night. There were many co-champs in the SEC's past.
The SEC screwed itself with no east -west division
yeah but do we all really want to watch UGA skate by with a weak East schedule?
@harambenights1051 well..they know how to schedule the big schools just like any other team..they should take a chance and play the USC and Penn state every once in a while or broaden the division by having a mandatory west division game and get rid of freaking UMASS or Kent state..it'll only help in the long run
@harambenights1051 I wouldn't call it a weak east. If they did East West it's most likely Alabama & Auburn get moved to the east while Mizzou gets flipped to the west with the new additions of Texas & Oklahoma. That means there would very likely a 3 way race for the east in Bama, UGA, & Tennessee with the likes of South Carolina playing spoiler as Georgia didn't play them this year.
Counting on Auburn to win is dicey - but counting on Mizzou to do it this week is just silly.
Missouri beating South Carolina seems like the biggest wall tbh. South Carolina is absolutely on fire right now;
Drink owns SC!
That & every real team Mizzou has played has absolutely destroyed Mizzou.
I think this just proves that the SEC needs to move to 9 conference games. Since there’s no overlap in common opponents, it’s really hard to compare teams and with the tiebreakers, things get messy quickly
As a Bama fan, it’s insane to me how likely it is we make the SECCG. Pretty much all we need to happen is to win out, Georgia to beat Tennessee, and Texas to beat A&M. Anything else is icing on the cake
Whatever happens, this has been a legendary cfb season that doesn't come around too often
Very informative. Thanks for the video!
I think it’s more likely that Texas loses at Arkansas this week and beats A&M.
Agreed, Arkansas has already beaten Tennessee and played A&M tough. And they have Texas at home.
@@arlibrarian - I think it more likely that Texas beats both teams, Texas will win the conference, and the winner of Georgia and Tennessee being the second place team.
Let's go Arkansas !!
Sad to see how conferences have become their new version of bcs computing.
Dang man great video, for a 5 minute video this must have token forever to make! Just subbed, keep up the great work! 💯🔥
I appreciate the love man!
I think it’s crazy that the losing team of the SEC championship game doesn’t make the CFP. But you’re probably right. I haven’t heard much discussion about it yet.
I wondered what would happen if the SEC has 5 2 loss teams.
12 team CFP is going to have a lot of controversy.
Well the problem with LSU losing and being left out is that they wouldn’t have 3 losses but 4. You couldn’t reasonably put them above a team like Mizzou whose only fault in the record is 2 losses to top 12 teams, IMO.
A&M wont make it with 3 losses
LSU getting in the championship and then the playoffs with 3 losses is hilarious lol. Reminds me of LSU in the BCS era running through the title with 2 losses and everyone was like the heck? LSU winning the first 12 team playoff with 3 losses would be absolute meme tier
Texas being the highest ranked sec team with the lowest strength of schedule in the sec is pretty funny
Texas got a relatively easy slate their first season, while Oklahoma had to go through Tennessee, Texas, South Carolina, Ole Miss and Mizzou and finishing with Alabama and LSU. An insanely brutal conference schedule.
Texas has had Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Georgia, Vanderbilt and Florida, ending with Arkansas, Kentucky and A&M. Texas has by far the easiest conference schedule in the league this year.
And people are going to say the playoff is unfair to the SEC because it won’t be 8 SEC teams, even though “the playoff will be all SEC teams” was a major *complaint* about playoff expansion!
I need a video on how South Carolina is better than Georgia
huh?
That's easy: y'all don't have Mike Bobo as an OC, or a severely regressing Carson Beck.
Real
The funny thing is, you’re right.
Carolina defense currently playing better.
Georgia's defense looks like Carolina's from the first couple of games where it was nearly non-existent.
Great video!
I would say that everything will work itself out, but after what happened with the CFB Playoff last year.. anything is possible
This all hinges on no more insane underdog wins in the SEC, which is guaranteed to happen many more times this season.
If Georgia had their usual Eastern conference schedule I think they'd still be undefeated ngl
I mean the East has Tennessee as a very good team with good teams in South Carolina, Vanderbilt and Mizzou. If Georgia draws Mississippi State alongside Auburn then yeah, that’s a super easy conference schedule
@ TN has been decent this year and 2022. Besides that the East has been pretty weak since Urban left florida
Wow, that would be insane if that actually happened.
A similar scenario: Georgia beats Tennessee, LSU wins out, Arkansas wins against TX or MO... LSU tops conference. Lots of fun scenarios...
Nice work.
Thanks man!
I hope this happens. The chaos in the SEC this year has been fun to watch.
This is literally what I was afriad of. Our conference is canabalizing itself. 2 loss teams galor. We gonna knock OURSELVES out of the playoffs.
Pure chaos in the making
I didn't believe you at first that they don't all have a common conference opponent, but I looked at the schedules and they really don't. Not having that 10th conference game really makes a big difference.
Why play a 9th or 10th conference game when all the teams in the conference are top 50 and 10-12 teams are top 30. The committee only cares about record not strength of record or strength of schedule. Just play a schedule like Indiana Penn state Miami or byu and 80% of the SEC would be undefeated.
They about to rig these last 3 weeks of the season in the SEC cuz they don’t want those headaches
I would absolutely love to see this happen, more as a fan of chaos than a fan of Mizzou.
It's a crime as good as South Carolina is, they're not in the playoff conversation, especially from that BS loss to LSU
The most likely scenario where the tiebreaker comes into play will be if Tennessee beats Georgia. That would make the most probable championship match up Alabama vs Texas.
Unfortunately the SEC (or any conference for that matter) can’t set up a conference tournament bracket in CFB due to the strain on resources like budget, time, and manpower.
That is probably the weakest excuse. These schools make tens of millions of dollars, the big ones over 100 million. They could easily extend football season a few weeks for tournaments. The stronger teams keep playing, the weaker teams rest up while watching.
The CFP has said publicly that they will not weigh conference championship loses when selecting the playoff, since it unfairly punishes teams that played an extra game. If LSU won in this scenario, Alabama would still have a chance to make it in
I just can’t imagine a scenario where a 4 loss LSU gets into the playoffs like some have suggested. Mizzou would have 2 losses to top 12 teams but would presumably be left out for LSU while LSU has 3 losses to top 15 teams (2 Alabama, 1 A&M, don’t know where A&M ends up) and a loss to unranked USC.
4 loss LSU getting in would be a grave mistake.
Tiebreakers should include winning percentage of all opponents, not just in conference opponents.
This is all Vanderbilt fault, playing them this year improved everyone's SOS and the fact they won a few including Alabama but lost to Missouri really sends it into chaos, dont be surprised if a team like Missouri sneaks in just like how Missouri and kansas ended up 1 and 2 in 2007, all it takes is alittle more chaos and you have 3 loss teams at the current top with Missouri being a 2-0 loss if they can beat SC
Conference championship games are going to become obsolete as soon as a team gets punished for losing it, and teams that didn't play get in
As a Texas fan I would really like to see Tennessee beat the Bulldogs!
We need them to, and then win out ourselves. UT vs little ut (Tennessee) in the Sec Championship game
I wouldn’t expect Ole Miss, Alabama, Missouri, and LSU to all win out simultaneously.
Even if they don’t all win out, his scenario leading to Ga, Tenn, Texas, and TxA&M tying at 6-2 could still result in a 7-way or 6-way tie at 6-2, etc.
Another reason why the SEC needs to have 9 conference games
There are 128 D1 FBS football teams. I think there should be 8 "conferences" with 16 teams, including good, decent, and relatively bad teams, that way each conference has a fair playing field. All teams play 12 games, with all 12 games being in conference. There should be a 16 team playoff, with the 8 conference champions receiving a first round BYE, while the conference runner-ups all play in the first round. Completely take the human aspect out of it. If there are multiple teams in one conference with the same record, you go to points for vs points against to determine the top 2 of said conference.
For instance, there could be a "South" conference that has Alabama, Auburn, LSU, and Ole Miss, but also South Alabama, LA Tech, Southern Miss, etc.
If you have 8 conference champs getting a bye, you need at least 16 more teams to give them all opponents in the second round. At that rate it’d be like the FCS tourney with 24 total teams
@@cipher0328he didn’t fully think it through. Also completely removing non conference games? What the heck
A&M would not get in the playoff with this scenario. 3 losses with one to Auburn would be a dealbreaker
Man my Bulldogs need to pull it together. Tennessee is ALWAYS TOUGH. Respect to Tennessee but yall going down , we down 2 games and need to be Mad AF!!
Absolutely love it
In this scenario, it’s 100% possible that Army just wins out and if LSU wins the SEC, should steal the SEC’s bid
What part of the committee saying losing the conference championship games won’t hurt you do people not understand
I’d expect tennessee to get in over texas based on the bama win. I think texas has to win out bc 8-way tie or not, there’s almost certainly gonna be a 2 loss sec team left out, and it texas plays two good sec teams (uga and a&m) and loses both of them, they’re gonna be that 2 loss team that’s left out. choosing between tennessee and ole miss would be the tough decision, and honestly i’d expect ole miss to edge out tennessee, if only bc of the timing of utk’s second loss, but maybe that depends on how tennessee loses to uga in this scenario.
Honestly missing the playoffs might be a better look for mizzou. With how disappointing the seasons been they can still walk away a ranked 11-2 team with a bowl game win which is where they were last year vs 10-3 and a higher risk of an embarrassing performance on an even bigger stage.
They’re almost certainly gonna lose this weekend so won’t make it anyway
You immediately eliminated "head to head" as a tie-breaker, but didn't fully explain why. Amongst the eight tied teams, some of them would have worse head-to-head records than others, and those teams would (should) be removed from consideration. Head-to-head isn't just for two tied teams; it can be for any number.
Allow me to elaborate here. Head to head can only be used if all of the tied teams have played each other or if one of the tied teams has beaten all of the other tied teams. Look at a 3-way tie for example, if team A beat team B and team C, then team A gets a spot in the title game even if team B and C did not play each other. In this 8-way tie scenario, there is not a single team that played all of the other teams, so head to head cannot be used since there is no single team to base it on.
As a LSU fan it blows my mind that LSU could still get in. They definitely don't deserve it after this disappointing season.
If texas loses to Texas AM they have no ranked wins. No way that team with the same record gets in over an Ole Miss team that destroyed a great South Carolina team and a Georgia team you have getting in the playoffs. Not to mention both of Ole miss's losses are very flukey, super close games where they should've won but choked at the end.
Actually Florida has highest strength of schedule not Georgia
The NCAA is PRAYING Tennessee and Texas win so they can have two 1 kids teams
Tenn still has to play vandy.
There’s a chance that only one more B1G team becomes bowl eligible.
No way a 3 loss Texas A&M gets into the playoffs even with the Texas win
The whole sec is better than any conference just make an sec playoff lol those other teams wont do shit maybe oregon
Hahahahahaha he said Auburn winning at home against Texas a&m. War eagle though
The way could Georgia could even TRY and im saying this as a UGA fan BENCH. CARSON. BECK. You have a 5 star QB for a reason Gunner Stockton has potential just use him.
Ole Miss would get in over a two loss Texas and Tennessee. If they win out, they’re in
Man if ony the SEC played 9 conference games instead of 8...smh
If the sec were like the B1G with 12-14 mediocre top 40-80 ranked teams, 9 games would actually help the conference. But with 12 top 35 teams, it’s just going to punish too many highly ranked teams with extra losses so a bunch of mediocre teams with patsycake schedules can jump them for playoff spots of bowl games and money.
@@coreytrevor6276yes but hard to tell who’s actually good when everyone’s W total is padded by playing an extra game against some FCS school. Right now the mediocre teams are just there to prop up the resumes of the better teams
Unfortunately for UGA I just don’t know if they can get a W? I thought they were the best team in the country after the Texas game but they keep doing a jeckyl and hide imitation!! Also I think A&M is out with a loss to Texas. 2 loss Bama and Ole Miss get in before them as well as Tennessee and Texas.
texas could easily lose at arkansas this week. they SHOULD win but I trust arkansas in this spot a lot more than I trust this auburn team even if the bookies have auburn as only single digit dogs. and that would mean that texas would just have to win as a favorite at a&m in the last week for the tie (although depending on results maybe a&m will be favored by then)
what if arkansas beat texas instead of auburn beating texas a&m
We need divisions back
Well we all know Texas A&M is beating Auburn😂😂😂(I’m an Auburn fan 😢😢😢)
Just because the SEC might (very unlikely) have an 8-way tie, doesn't mean they'd have 8 teams in the playoff. Fanboys are so delusional about thinking the expansion is all about one conference.
Hopefully Georgia makes it
I could see Texas winning out, and Georgia beating Tennessee at home.
- In this case you will have a 1 loss Texas, 2 loss Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Ole Miss, and LSU.
- Texas and Alabama will go to the conference title game.
- If Bama beats Texas, we will have a 2 loss Texas, Georgia, Tennessee and Ole Miss competing for the 7 at large playoff spots.
- In such scenario the committee will have to drop one of these 2 loss teams out, or they have to let them all in and leave Notre Dame out.
I'm okay with leaving ND out, they suck.
Yeah losing to a lowly NIU and beating nobody in the top 10, why are they ranked in the top 10?
both teams that make it to the SEC championship game are in the playoffs.
Not necessarily. As many have pointed out here the CFP has said that they will not penalize the losing team in a conference championship for playing an extra game. However in this crazy 8-way tie scenario LSU is in the title game with 3 losses, so if they lose they are certainly out of the playoffs simply by having those 3 losses beforehand. A disaster scenario for the CFP would be if this 8 way tie happens and LSU wins the conference championship game. Then the committee would have to pick 3 SEC teams out of Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas A&M, and Missouri. Personally I would love to see something that chaotic happen this year.
A conference so poorly managed it can’t separate the excellent teams from the mediocre teams-so the SEC solution stuff a 12-team National Tournament full of its also rans for rematches and games that should have been instead of adding teams from throughout the Nation that have performed as well or better on the field (Colorado, Boise St., BYU, Wazzu). Does the SEC even know what it’s best teams are this year in 2024-all have losses and since they want to talk about losses over wins, all of the losses were ugly. Was there an equivalent loss like OSU at Autzen-not even close. What’s the best SEC loss. Georgia at Bama 😆😆😆
Bro Ole Miss Blow out Georgia…
Or if Arkansas beats Texas and Texas beats AnM
Missou ain’t beating South Carolina (as a Clemson fan).
Missouri not beating Gamecocks
Georgia getting in over an Ole Miss team that beat the brakes off them?
what do you mean there were no head to head match ups or common opponents among the 8 teams????? were you freaking high or something cause it seems you still were thinking about the last 4 games when considering all that lmao
common conference opponents uh both ole miss and bama played georgia and LSU . tenn and alabama both play Georgia . bama beat and Texas a&m both beat Mizzou . I could go on.
am I missing something cause I am deff high right now and its 5 am .
common conference opponent means a team that has played all 8 contenders
LSU is not the 2nd best team in the conference based on the eyeball test
What about Vanderbilt?!? Vanderbilt! Vanderbilt! Vanderbilt! They would beat any other team in the Nation at home not in the SEC or named Georgia St. The SEC is so good, it can’t separate its excellent teams from it good or mediocre teams-let’s put them all in a National Tournament. Leave out teams they didn’t play but would obviously defeat if they did play. 🤣🤣🤣
As an Auburn fan, Auburn ain't winning that game 😂
It sucks Alabama is still #1.
Hate to spoil this for you but texas is beating a&m and Georgia will beat Tennessee
Texas is beating A&M and Tennessee is beating Georgia
@LaCrux negative ghost rider
Georgia fans said last week there was no way they could lose to ole miss and look what happened, if it’s any time for Tennessee to beat the dawgs it’s now.
@@FamilyOvaEverythng im an olemiss fan. I just believe that outside that de pierce or whatever their defense aint sbit and the secret to heupals offense is stop the run. You do that they struggle badly
Lol Auburn winning😂
What the SEC needs is 4 divisions , Texas , Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Missouri, TN , KY, SC, Vandy, Fl, GA, LSU, Auburn Miss, Miss st, Ala, Arkansas The division winners have a playing game to the SEC championship.
a 3 loss texas am wouldnt make playoffs
No3 loss team is making it sec or not. Georgia has to win against Tennessee.
it's almost like 9 conference games and divisions could fix this
Fix what exactly? Nothing is broken. It’s a tie at the top of a conference, that’s why tie breakers exist lol
@@Leodoesthings23 an 8 way tie, 8 way ties wouldn't occur with divisions and 9 conference games
@@alexandergilles8583 That’s… why we have tiebreakers? Divisions 100% are worse for the game, that’s why most every conference don’t have them anymore
@@Leodoesthings23 what makes them worse?
@ Uhhh, do you not remember the big 10 west? Or FSU and Clemson being in the same division. Or heck, even in the SEC, the west division was way better than the east over the last decade +. The goal is to get the two best teams in the conference facing each other in the conference championship. When you have divisions, that isn’t the case most years. Again, there’s a reason most conferences have abandoned it
That's crazy man !! Being an Alabama fan, I love the work that you've done here though !!! Roll Tide!!!