Fuel Pump Conversion Dual Line to Single Line Vintage Outboards

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  • @The314moses
    @The314moses 2 роки тому +9

    Mike, that is by far one of the best tutorials I've ever seen. You took your time and gave a very clear and detailed explanation of the whole process. Now I can modify my 1957 Evinrude 10 hp outboard with confidence. Thank you VERY much. I greatly appreciate it!!

  • @victorg2803
    @victorg2803 2 роки тому +3

    There are several videos and internet sites devoted to this. This is the BEST!

  • @jimkarban6489
    @jimkarban6489 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for covering both options in one video. Your four step explanation is perfect. And no music ! ! ! I'd rather hear the Burr of the compressor in the background, it adds to the true genuine nature of your videos.

  • @Sam-jd7mc
    @Sam-jd7mc Рік тому +1

    Wonderful job of explaining the process and how it works. I plan to convert my 56 Johnson seahorse 10 now!

  • @briancrowther3542
    @briancrowther3542 Рік тому +2

    This is the best video to cover all of the HP options. I just picked up 1959 5.5 and was planning on doing the first method, but I wanted to make see if it was possible. Thank you so much.

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  Рік тому

      Don’t think the 5.5 hp has a bypass cover - do the manifold option is for you.

  • @mikeymike3760
    @mikeymike3760 Рік тому +1

    The intake manifold conversion is brilliantly simple!!! Thank you so much for posting this!!!!

  • @jeffreyswett6363
    @jeffreyswett6363 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this tutorial!! Used to live in Lacombe, LA. Sure do miss it!

  • @jimrudolph1582
    @jimrudolph1582 Рік тому +2

    Nice explanation, easy to follow.
    I myself will stay with my pressure tanks. All the internal parts are available and are rarely ever needed, the line is available and the fitting o-rings are easy to change.
    I’ve also collected a good number of both fitting and tank and bought a 100’ of line,, I think I may need another🤔. I like enough to reach the bow of my tinners! And I think I’ve got three or four all rehosed plus a couple for friends.
    Cheers!
    Keep it up, keep em running!

  • @Youza899
    @Youza899 9 місяців тому +1

    Super helpful video as always T-mike,Im bringing a 50’s 5.5 seahorse back to life and wouldn’t be able to do it without you,already changed the coils and rebuilt the carb now I dont have to deal with the 50+ year old fuel tank leaking anymore

  • @TedDakin
    @TedDakin Рік тому +2

    Thank you for posting this. It is very concise and makes it look easy.

  • @Starfury687
    @Starfury687 10 місяців тому +1

    Just what I needed for 1957 18hp Evinrude ✌️✌️
    Now I just need to figure which one to do..
    These thanks come all the way from Northern Europe Finland 🇫🇮

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  10 місяців тому +1

      www.ebay.com/itm/404242662804?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sn3ajpvKTka&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=sn3ajpvKTka&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @danielmorgan9887
    @danielmorgan9887 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you sir you got this cd-20 cooling water going again.

  • @michaelmiley8552
    @michaelmiley8552 Рік тому +1

    Hi Mike, thanks for your video just picked up And Evinrude 10 hp 1959. Can’t wait to do this conversion.

  • @chriswalker6435
    @chriswalker6435 2 роки тому +1

    Great job of explaining how to upgrade to fuel pump for small outboards Mike! Way to go!

  • @danielrobert7181
    @danielrobert7181 2 роки тому +1

    Excellente vidéo P'tit-Michel, t'es le meilleur ! J'ai fait la conversion avec succès. Merci !

  • @billhaar2919
    @billhaar2919 2 роки тому +1

    Every time I watch one of your videos I learn so much!!

  • @leepatton1180
    @leepatton1180 2 роки тому +1

    That's great info those 2 line tanks were very troublesome

  • @jamiecook3966
    @jamiecook3966 Рік тому +1

    Great Video Mike

  • @samtate1260
    @samtate1260 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome I already new how but this is a very good video on how to thank you for all your info 👍🏻

  • @scrmn53
    @scrmn53 2 роки тому +1

    So good!!! Thanks T Mike.

  • @helghit
    @helghit Рік тому +1

    You sir, are the man!

  • @MrTlmckee
    @MrTlmckee 2 роки тому +1

    Great video T Mike!!

  • @airgunny7416
    @airgunny7416 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey there! I have a 1960 18hp. which is the better option for this motor since both could be done? is there an advantage or disadvantage to either of these solutions?

  • @davemilster
    @davemilster Рік тому +2

    What do you do for the connection from the tank line to the engine? Use the two line connector? Swap to a single line connector?
    Do I reuse the old pressure tank or swap to a newer suction style single line tank?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  Рік тому

      Use new style single line hose and tank.

    • @davemilster
      @davemilster Рік тому +1

      Are there part numbers for the single line connector that mounts to the engine in place of the two line connector?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  Рік тому +2

      @@davemilster www.ebay.com/itm/404400333722?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sn3ajpvKTka&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=sn3ajpvKTka&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @davemilster
    @davemilster Рік тому +1

    Excellent video by the way

  • @psychodad4634
    @psychodad4634 9 місяців тому +1

    For the bypass cover method, do I still need to remove and plug up one of the reed valves?

  • @chickenfriedsteak3669
    @chickenfriedsteak3669 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome! Loving your channel brother! Sooo much information , and you explain it so well! Me and my son appreciate ya T-Mike!
    Thanks ferrrrrrrrrrr Showin' ana Sharin' ma bayou amigo! :)

  • @keithpolister9626
    @keithpolister9626 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Mike. Great video. I have a 59 5.5 fisherman. runs great. Can you explain why I very suddenly have a bad leak at the fuel connect. It sealed just fine and now leaks like a sieve. The receiver seems fine and the springs are working. If I can't get it to stop leaking I'll try your conversion. thanks in advance.

    • @jimrudolph1582
      @jimrudolph1582 Рік тому

      There are two chubby little o rings in that connection, they are still available at dealers and likely Sierra etc with the use of a couple of pics you can compress the shut off in the center and pic the O-ring out give the inside a good cleaning and blow if possible (they can be gummy etc) then install two new ones. Quick note, if only the air side is leaking it can cause issues with stalling and leaning out.
      I prefer dual line, I find the above mentioned connectors much better the line itself more durable and by far the biggest reason is those damn primer bulbs. They either refuse to work are turning to rock or split and leak. I have only come across one tank that won’t push fuel back and it’s likely the pickup tube inside. Also the kits are available to overhaul the dual line tanks.

  • @SoFlo-Adventures
    @SoFlo-Adventures 5 місяців тому +1

    Ok but question!! If doing the bypass cover method what do you do with the carburetor end that originally produced the air for the dual tank system. Do you plug it? Or leave it open?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  5 місяців тому

      @@SoFlo-Adventures plug it in

    • @SoFlo-Adventures
      @SoFlo-Adventures 5 місяців тому

      @@michaeljsimon to what when the bypass cover method gets rid of the air pulse on the carburetor

  • @The314moses
    @The314moses 2 роки тому +1

    Mike, what single line fittings would you recommend for this modification? Both at the motor and the tank.

  • @joelcrowley7895
    @joelcrowley7895 2 роки тому +1

    Ok, I drilled bypass with a 7/16 as you stated. The 1/8 x 27 npt is way to small for that massive hole. 21/64 is the proper size but now I will need to find someway to correct. Geez

  • @williamreno7610
    @williamreno7610 8 місяців тому

    Hey t mike i love your videos im a big fan i have a question im trying to find the 8-27 npt tap size when i search im only finding 1/8-27 npt is his the same thing?

  • @jasonluther4077
    @jasonluther4077 7 місяців тому +1

    I bought the kit for a 18 hp Johnson, the bag with plate came with two stainless screws , as they for a different motor?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  7 місяців тому

      They should fit your motor.

    • @jasonluther4077
      @jasonluther4077 7 місяців тому +1

      @@michaeljsimon for what? To bolt the plate on. It only came with two and my motor has 4 to bolt the plate on and I just used the original ones that were on the motor

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  7 місяців тому

      Those screws are for the fuel pump.

    • @jasonluther4077
      @jasonluther4077 7 місяців тому +2

      @@michaeljsimon the pump came with 2 brass colored screws

    • @jasonluther4077
      @jasonluther4077 7 місяців тому

      Are they just incase I need longer ones?

  • @Ayerlooms
    @Ayerlooms 2 роки тому +1

    Once you have the fuel pump on is there any Timing adjustments needed or carb adjustments or she will just run like before you swapped it. I have an 18 that runs like a top but I know the tank is on its last leg. Wanna switch it over.

  • @captnjack5637
    @captnjack5637 2 роки тому +1

    spot on, Thanks.

  • @Antique_Outboard_Revival
    @Antique_Outboard_Revival Рік тому +1

    Hey t-mike! Quick question. If converting using the exhaust bypass what do you do with the carburetor manifold port? Do you cap it or let it blow out? Curious what your thoughts are!

  • @davemilster
    @davemilster Рік тому +1

    I have received my Kohler Pump, I've removed the flapper valves and plugged the one port so I get a pulse. I've mounted the single line fuel connector in place of the two line connector. I was concerned with the large size of the connector's hose barb, but see that it matches the fuel pump's hose barb so I'm ok there. What I'm concerned about is 2 things:
    1. the pulse outlet hose barb on the engine is a lot smaller than the hose barb on the fuel pump. SO do I stretch a small hose over or clamp down on a larger hose?
    2. Same problem on the carb. It's hose barb is a lot smaller than the "carb" fitting hose barb on the pump... Stretch or clamp down?

  • @christianredder9958
    @christianredder9958 2 роки тому +2

    Love the videos!! Question: what is the advantage of conversion? I’ve a ‘58 Evinrude that’s been the family for years that I’m going to restore-but don’t have the tank. Should be easy enough to find a dual-line, but obviously single line are even more readily available. Thanks a bunch. Christian

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  2 роки тому

      Single line standard now - easier

    • @BobWiersema
      @BobWiersema 2 роки тому

      I don't think it will be that easy to find. Also depending on where you live a pressurized tank may be illegal.

  • @chrisb1125
    @chrisb1125 Рік тому +1

    Mike how can can you use a 7/16 drill on a 1/8 tap, that would be a 21/64 drill, and you can't put a 1/4 inch npt fitting in a 1/8 hole? I think the drill for 1/4 is 7/16 and tap would be 4-18 NPT

  • @kennethbrown1965
    @kennethbrown1965 Рік тому +1

    What about a 35 HP 58 sea horse you don't seem to list a fuel conversion kit for them

  • @mstgsh1
    @mstgsh1 Рік тому

    You are the best T-Mike! I’m a novice mechanic, driven in my restoration of an old Old Town dinghy nprimarily by my carpentry skil, but have managed to make the fuel line conversion with your guidance here ( for a 1957 Johnson 5.5). It’s a miracle! (I have had the help of a mechanically inclined friend). But there’s a problem I think in that the installed fuel pump drips gas out of the screened opening in the middle of the pump. That’s got to be dangerous. It’s the second new fuel pump I’ve tried, with the same result. Today I finally got the motor going, and ran it for 5 minutes, but was afraid of taking it out and creating a firebomb. Any idea what’s going on?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  Рік тому

      Where did you get the fuel pump?

    • @mstgsh1
      @mstgsh1 Рік тому

      I assume the screen type hole in the pump housing is an exhaust for the pulsed air? Could the carb manifold gasket be leaking? Or the pump gasket itself?

  • @Steve-e4b
    @Steve-e4b 2 місяці тому +1

    Which system is most reliable. Kohler or bypass cover with fuel pump

  • @joelcrowley7895
    @joelcrowley7895 2 роки тому

    My original hoses have a very small inside diameter. They won't fit the fuel pump you suggested. If I increase the size they won't fit the carburetor barb. How to proceed? Tks

  • @williamgrissom4142
    @williamgrissom4142 Рік тому

    Will this work the same on the evan rude thirty five horse of the same era

  • @joelcrowley7895
    @joelcrowley7895 2 роки тому +1

    Do I still need a bulb pump on the tank? Tks

  • @dumbluck6180
    @dumbluck6180 5 місяців тому +1

    Awesome!

  • @BobSmith-ih7qe
    @BobSmith-ih7qe 2 роки тому +1

    When you do the bypass cover mod do you seal off the pressure barb coming from the carb manifold completely?

    • @curtisballer688
      @curtisballer688 2 роки тому

      Depending on fuel pump.
      That fuel pump has 3 fittings one goes to vacuum line your asking about plugging off.
      If fuel pump has 2 fittings it usually mounts to transfer port cover where it grabs vacuum to drive diaphragm. My 30hp mounts to transfer port. This video is for low hp motor
      Great vid T-Mike

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  2 роки тому +1

      Yes - I failed to mention that.

    • @curtisballer688
      @curtisballer688 2 роки тому

      T-Mike I just learned this in the past year you’ve not failed! You’ve taught me so much on your channel! Keep it coming

    • @joelcrowley7895
      @joelcrowley7895 2 роки тому

      @@michaeljsimonI'm doing the bypass cover mod on 1957 18 HP Evinrude. Using the fuel pump you suggested. How do I seal off the barb on the carb manifold ? Or did I miss that in the video.

  • @travisbarreiro6882
    @travisbarreiro6882 Рік тому +1

    Will this work for 7.5 sea horse

  • @magnumforceoutdoors9665
    @magnumforceoutdoors9665 2 роки тому

    I have a question not about this conversion but what kind of tool do you use for tightening crankshaft bolts to inche pounds. And where do you get them

  • @wesleyboss5763
    @wesleyboss5763 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your videos I'm having difficulty leaving a message here because I never see it posted. But on your conversion which do you prefer the exhaust method or the intake method. I am concerned the exhaust method may have a heat problem on diaphragm some rubber in the future. What are your thoughts.

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  2 роки тому

      Exhaust method - better pulse

    • @nickkramp2765
      @nickkramp2765 2 роки тому +1

      That cover is an INTAKE bypass cover. Very low heat area compared to exhaust cover (which is on the other side of the power head).

  • @TuneInBurnOutTV
    @TuneInBurnOutTV 2 роки тому

    This totally fixed my motor issue on a Johnson 7.5 seahorse! Were do you get stickers for the face plate and motor cover?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/9t35NTDiwyw/v-deo.html

  • @The_Real_Afroman
    @The_Real_Afroman 2 роки тому

    I have a 1959 johnson 5.5hp motor and im about to switch it over from the duel to single like in your video. My question is what is the fuel to oil ratio? I have a 3gal gas tank. Thanks

  • @glengraham6428
    @glengraham6428 3 місяці тому +1

    Have 0ne completed 15 hp 0ne 15 hp parts one 18 won't to do this convershone thank you for video

  • @CM-dx5js
    @CM-dx5js 2 роки тому +1

    Since it is the case that, with a fuel pump the single fuel hose does not pressurize the fuel tank, does that mean that the fuel tank now has to be vented somehow?

    • @michaeljsimon
      @michaeljsimon  2 роки тому

      Depends. They make ventless tanks.

    • @CM-dx5js
      @CM-dx5js 2 роки тому

      @@michaeljsimon
      Thank you; you have helped.
      I have two tanks. One is an Atwood bought from West Marine. It says it is a pressurized tank. It has a single hose connector on it, and I do not see any venting mechanism.
      The other tank is one of the old metal Evinrude pressurized tanks made for a dual hose. The dual-hose fitting on that tank has two plunger rods which get pushed in when a dual hose is connected. One plunger opens the pathway for gas to flow. The other opens a pathway for pressurized air to be sent into the tank.
      I may be misunderstanding what happens to the "air" plunger when I attach my single hose. I know the plunger is depressed, but does that create a venting in my case? Both tanks work with my single hose, but the motor seems not to be running as fast as it did with a dual hose. That was made me wonder about venting.
      My motor, incidentally, has a fuel pump that is attached to a bypass cover, and the outlet nipple on the carburetor manifold that once sent pressure into the fuel tank has been capped.
      Once again, thank you for your knowledge and help.

  • @eaglerestoration8088
    @eaglerestoration8088 Рік тому +1

    Which is better?

  • @jeffreyindiana8157
    @jeffreyindiana8157 Рік тому +2

    A 5/8” tube cap is too big!

    • @Steve-e4b
      @Steve-e4b 2 місяці тому

      Maybe tree ates?