Why The M113K Is One of The Best Mercedes Engines | V8 Kompressor (4K)
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2019
- In this video, I discuss why the Mercedes AMG 'V8 Kompressor' M113k engine is a favourite among enthusiasts. The m113k was featured in the w211 E55, w219 CLS55, w220 S55, W215 CL55, R230 SL55, as well as others. I start by going over some differences between the standard M113 engine and the AMG versions, then go into more detail on the m113k.
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The amount of knowledge in this video is rare nowadays with UA-camrs clickbaiting left and right
Abdullah Hassan the quality of this video and the editing is outstanding too
Yes, I agree, the poster is a rare gem in a river of mediocrity, hence my recent subscription!
Well said that's 100% true
Yea I just come across this channel. And I been watching Some of AMG's vids. And I'm learning a ton. Keep it up
Everything about this video is perfect, love the music too
Quality AMG video as usual! 217,000 miles on my daily driven stock 2006 E55 and counting. My favorite car all-time!
thats my realistic dream car but i have to find a good one
niklas johansson yeah some of them have been modded and taken bad care of unfortunately
You should replace the o-rings of the oil pump
03 e55 amg here. 134 thousand miles and running strong.
@@hansgerd8069 nah! 230,000 miles and counting
I love my 2007 SL55. Have it tuned to 610 hp & 720 tq. It's been expensive to maintain at top level but worth every penny when I punch it.
230,000 Miles on my Daily driven Modded W211 E55 and I have ZERO issues. Best car I've ever owned
Fucken layer
Salih Alamri yes You are
Salih Alamri wow. You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
@@ericfletcher8454 I currently have a w210 e320 and really want the 211 e55 what should I look out for specifically when purchasing? And did u convert to coilovers??
Any oil use for 1000miles?
M113K is the best AMG engine ever made !!!
And the naturally aspirated M113 is the next best ,,especially if you don't want to deal with a supercharger ,ABC, and SBC.
@@Leonardo555ZZZ agree
Hey car guy.. Have you worked in a MB dealership? These motors still had problems...
@@4g63gen1 hi hi . No i haven't. But I just to work as a mechanic for 10 years and comparing this engine this its newer models , this is is very reliable and still bad ass
@@4g63gen1 What problems ?
For some reason G class is rarely mentioned when talking about M113K.
It makes the 2.6 tonnes G55 feel light like a feather. Very mixed/unusual feeling.
The continuous 4wd and heavy mass helps to convert all of the torque into brutal acceleration.
Love riding it. This engine is perfected for joy.
I totally agree..its a monster
Ok but one fact must be said: You get one best friend of your gasstation owner.
@@udo230FL true
How is the reliability?
@@alainm.3378Just like the video said, it doesnt really have issues
The SLR Mclaren and CLK DTM supercars also had variants of the M113k engine, but I intend to do future videos focusing on those cars in more detail. Also, I make the claim in this video that the E55 and CLS55 are not less powerful than the SL55, CL55, and S55. This has been discussed many times in the past and dyno results show no differences between these M113k cars. mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/257575-faster-sl55-e55.html
Also, I mention the 5 litre as the 'base' m113. There is the 4.3L, but I am meaning that the 5 litre is the base for the AMG m113k engine which is the title of this video.
Please do a video! I'm definitely interested!
Please do!
AMGmeister would you care to also mention and share the M273 and M278 V8 engines from the non AMG E550/CLK550 series.
Looking forward to it my friend.
Love your channel thanks, I just bought a E55 with 23k miles and if you please can you do a video with the safest upgrades for more hp on the car thanks.
This guys videos are better than what mercedes produce for their technicians. Really Nicely edited. Amazing knowledge for the Hands on M113k powered owner.
Lots of excellent info here that I’ve been looking for. One minor quibble: the base M113 was the 4.3L V8 that had the same bore and stroke as the 3.2L M112 V6. The bore was later enlarged to create the 5L.
This engine is legendary
Every time I think about selling my E55 you post a video reminding me of how awesome the car really is. Love the videos.
bottomfeeds i will buy it
Would buy it
Haha, why does that ever cross your mind? Dont think I've ever driven mine and not left the car with a smile on my face...
Amazing detail. First I've seen. Keep it up man and thank you.
Great video. Love those E55 AMG but didn’t know some of that info. Best part is I was there in Leavenworth to see all those beautiful Benz’s that day. Had no idea you guys were there. Drove mine up for a day trip. Sweet cars. 😎
This video just reminded me to both check the oil pick-up tube o-ring and install either a pressure gauge or sending unit to my SL55. Good video!
excellent to watch,
thanks for taking the time to make these,
im looking for an e55 and these help
thank you
That black e55 with 5 spoke wheels looks very nice! And thanks for another informative video. I did use your tutorial on restoring leather seats with leatherique products.
For me this is the best video about the M113K engine so far!
Nice informative video; all the AMG engines up to date are truly amazing :))
1 dislike from bmw v10
It broke down on the way to the dislike tho
Lmfao as much as I ADORE the e60 5.0 V10 it truly is a nightmare to own. Looking for an E55 right now since it's such a reliable engine and one of the best looking MB ever. But i'll forever be an M-power guy. If i had the money i'd get the M5 V10, but let's be honest...
@@excusemeforbeingsorry nightmare to own? Only if you don't know how to maintain your car! I know of someone who's owned an e60 m5 for 2 years and have had 0 problems apart from replacing clutch and tyres. So many people quick bash the reliability of these cars but as long as you take the right precautions and stay up to date with maintenance they're just as reliable as anything else just don't expect it to be cheap! However the m113 engines do seem like a lot less stress to run and are great engines! I'm considering buying a clk55 in the future and supercharging it
Bradley Adams 2 years isn’t shit. My cousin has an e60 m5 that had rod bearings and all normal maintenance done 8k miles ago and he blew the motor while driving hard in auto. I don’t get why people buy them they’re ugly and most people can only afford the smg car’s which is a pairing of the most unreliable engine to the most unreliable transmission....Plus Mercedes over bmw any I mean cmon...
They can dislike if they want. I leave them behind in my CLS 55
Great video! Im a proud new owner of a 2005 CL55 AMG and this was very informative. Thank you 👍
An awesome video again! Really looking forward to my 210 amg
Great video mate! You knowledge about m113k engine is insane
Top quality insight. I always suspected that the power output was the same between the 55k cars of the same year, but Mercedes could not admit that the cheaper E55 was faster than a flagship "sports car" SL55 with the same engine.
Absolutely awesome video. Thank you for making it
Owned a 2005 E55 and what a machine it was👌🏻👌🏻 sold mine at 600hp and at 200k km on the odo , one of the most underestimated performance cars off all time brilliant and properly engineered 👌🏻👌🏻
Great work mate 👍🏻
Phenomenal video. So informative.
Love it! Great info for new owners or those interested.
Outstanding content and an excellent presentation.
So glad I owned one just like yours. Amazing motors.
Just picked up an 06S 55 with this engine and I love it!
I wish you would convert all this great information into a chart format listing the cars, the engines and all the variations mentioned along with the years. Thanks, great video.
Thanks for sharing buddy, so much infos in 9:18 min Video. Subbed
Great video! Glad you addressed the o-ring issue. I really hope its an anomaly, rather than a common problem. But either way, the M113K engine and 5G Transmission are definitely overbuilt.
Thanks for the informative video. I intend to keep my 2004 E55 forever. Such a wonderful beast.
Great video very fresh and inspiring thanks🙏🏻
Great video, really helpful as I’m thinking of buying either a CL55 or E55.
This is a great video!! Kudos!!
Very informative. Thank you very much!
I have a 2006 S55 . I thoroughly enjoy this car. You can't convince me to trade it for a brand new Mercedes.
Nice video. Definitely useful info.
Great work on this video
Sometimes you need to replace the entire valve covers themselves due to warpage. Which results in leaks even after installing new gaskets.
The rule of thumb I use is if oxidation on the exterior finish of the VC's is in the advanced stages, best to be safer than sorry, and just replace them along with the gaskets. Labor remains unchanged. In fact, you may save a bit on the labor, as the upper breather covers will already be installed and sealed on the new covers. I usually knock an hour of labor off the job because of this.
Great Video as always. The M113K will go down in history as one of the greatest engines, no doubt. I can't get enough of my CLS55......now with LT MBH headers and x pipe. It's such a Torque monster. I will however be adding an oil pressure gauge before the summer is over for peace of mind. Love your channel, keep the great content coming! Used your leather treatment video today to get my interior back to factory fresh matte finish and soft leather. All the best.
i see you watched SK8215's vid on the oil pump huh.....
I truly love my S55 AMG!! Awesome video
Mine is a 05
Love this guys vids.
Great video!!! Did everything for my cooling and now it's time for some BOOST :D
Fantastic video, I love your detailed explanations, supported by pictures and construction plans. I also liked the comparison with the Viper, showing that similar power doens't has to mean similar power at the same rpm. I hope I can enjoy this car before it gets unattainable due to "environment protection". Keep the great quality content.
Sounds like you live in the wrong country. My M112K will bow to no government.
@@Matt_from_Florida I live in the country where this car comes from, which unfortunately thinks it can rescue the world climate by increasing the price for gas, petrol etc. so that people buy more electric cars and live more environmental friendly.
Ayeeee! That's Leavenworth! I was part of the 210 squad ✌
Absolutely love your channel and just recently purchased a CLS55 with a lot of my understanding of these cars coming from your videos ! Just wondering what the maximum gains are on just an ecu tune alone on the m113K please? Thanks
CLS55 AMG daily driver here as well! PERFECT PLATFORM
i love the knowledge in these videos thank you for making me smart about my car! also whats the song in the background?
Great video!
My SL55 has 70,000 miles. I have put 35,000 miles on it in 7 years, it is still creamy smooth and incredibly quick. I love that engine. PS - you forgot to mention the sound, it is one of the most incredible sounding engines, always makes me smile,
I have a Cls55 AMG, the owner before me didn't change the oil in time and filled it up with cheap oil, my hydraulic lifters are gone now with 100000km, but never mind, the power from it is awesome, I'm still busy with changing every pully, oil's and parts from the suspension. Would never sell this legend😍
Had a 2004 C32, was such a fun sleeper car. Biggest issue I had was coolant leaking into transmission fluid, caused entire transmission needing to be rebuilt.
Great video with so much useful information. 150K + on my daily driven '03 CL55 AMG. Now the ABC system, that's another animal entirely...
Thanks for this video
Very good video. Im on the fence about buying a used E55. This is very helpful.
bravo man, you are officially a doctor for w113k 👏👏👏
Excellent video. Very informative, did not know they all made around the same power but for marketing reasons numbers are slightly different. I am more interested in M113 variant in the SLR and how it differs.
Good video but you forgot about the first m113 motor....the E430 in the W210. I own two of them which I use daily
I love how the oil pump problem has never been talked about for like the 15 first years of this platform, then one guy blows an engine running twin turbos thru the supercharger at who knows how many miles of abuse and it becomes a "common issue"
It's called fake news. I'm sorry that the meister had to include that segment, in his otherwise good video.
I just watched the video today and immediately it gave me the chills! Then I thought to myself how could so many get galactic miles without this issue ever hardly been mentioned ?! I hope it’s not common anyway because my CLS55 has 120K and has been a soldier in the 3 years I’ve owned
It’s not a common issue. That’s an extremely rare case caused by an idiot…
Amazing information and knowledge gained 😍 keep going am on my way to buy an E55 2006 so need more info 💪🏽😍
I love this, where did you find the cam lift and fine details like that? What about the mods to the SLR engine although that's called M155.
What could feel better? The 600hp NA Fery and Lambo are not so grunty maybe only the ZR1 Vettes as they are much lighter
Best Regards from Germany.
I drive a C63 AMG with the 6.2L Engine, but I miss my m113k Enigne it was the best Engine that I have own in my life.
can you detail how do you compare both engines, what do you prefer out of the m113k?
Atmospheric worse than old turbo engine??????? What?!
@@SSHayden it's not turbo dummy
@@SSHayden it's supercharged and the torque is phenomenal. I've owned the 6.2L NA and currently have a M113k. I am in love with it. And the sound is beautiful.
@@joshpickles9022 bro i dont get this, looking for one right now but all the E55's just sound so dull and boring on UA-cam? Like even the Supercharged one's sound so lame, i'll get the E55 over an E63 because of great reliability and faster from 0-100kmh but still the exhaust just sucks unfortunately :(
Love this engine i got one SL55 is so damm nice and fast
I have the cls55 with renntech stage 1 tune. I’m in love with it. Never selling it.
4:06 clean E55 love the wheels and the fitment👌🏼
The M113 naturally aspirated engine is the most bullet proof of the two.
Unfortunately power and reliability have a seesaw effect.
Because my cls55 has 190k with 530hp renntech, and doesn’t get old. Every traffic light start is like a first start. One correction: it started as 4.3L in 1997 E430 then into C43 AMG, not from 5.0
@@alexanderpoliti2140 I actually liked the middle setting.. I’ve replaced bags once.. both rebuilt units, front airnott and some other brand for rears.
What size tires are you running on that E55 I love my S55 76mm pulley and VRP tune great Video. PS getting ready for the coil over switch no more ABC
Oh... And greetings from Malaga, Spain! :)
Thank you, for all that you do I have a 2003 E55, with 140k miles, old radiator leaked fluid to the transmission, changed both, valve cover gaskets as you said are leaking now, going to fix them next week. I was thinking to change the thermostat to a lower degree and water pump at the same time. What other things can you suggest to change I bought the car 2 years ago it was not well taken care of.
I love the power i want to spend my money on the right things I’m saving this car for my son we love the power.
Thank you
Tony
I hope you get yourself a car with this engine. You deserve it!
Good info and excellent video. Is the W211 engine turbo charged or supercharged?
Been looking for one ever since one walked away from my fbody Camaro💨💨💨
I love the SL55. So damn nice
Just picked up a 2007 SL55 with 18k miles (soon 19k) an absolute gem of a car, what a beast!!
That was a beautiful F101 Voodoo. Oh yes the Merc is nice too!
Agree, great engine! Always did a few full throttle starts with mine every time I drove it, engine/gearbox performed perfectly, had 250 000km when sold. Just wish I could say the same about the rest of the car.
What was wrong with the rest of the car?
Shimon Ok, these are just a few things that come to mind; air-matic failure, distronic disconnect often, keyless entry, keyless go, parktronic sensors, alternator failure, gps antenna, water leaking into boot causing short, seat motors, seat pneumatics, g-sensor, headlamp xenon adjustment, mirror heat damage, battery drain, poor paintwork and most important a lot of rust. It's not too bad I guess 😂
@@apangurra2775 lol dam is this common or you just had bad luck?
Shimon Oh, and the fuel tank level sensor failed aswell. I think it was quite ok, it's normal for a modern Mercedes I think, for every new technology or gadget the risk of failure increases.
@@apangurra2775 that's correct.
@AMGmeister what is that hole on the driver side on the head by the secondary air injection that plugs into the supercharger with that rubber U shaped pipe
Good vid mate +1
Thanks bro!!!
I believe the oil pump pick-up tube o-ring that failed on "SK8215" resulted from excessive oil temperatures. e.g. Track racing the car. My SL55 is the best car I ever had the pleasure of owning!
i love my SL55...i just replaced the supercharger bearing last week after hitting 58k!
How often are you guys changing the supercharger oil? 83k on my CLS55 and looking into changing it thanks for your guys input
Great vid
Dude I’m in love
At time stamp 4:20.. the black car, which wheels are those? Are they from the CLS55? I think that car looks perfect, and want to emulate that what I get mine.
Can you please tell me what's the first song you played ? Sounded great Thank You
Your videos make me want to buy a Mercedes Benz AMG
I’m very surprised how well my m113 5.5 performs. Cls550 running the eurocharged Ecu and tcu . I wish the 550 kept the 722.6 transmission rather the 722.9 but you can’t have them all
Well done video. I enjoy watching all of your them. I still appreciate my M113K in my CLS 55. I have purchased my Bosch upgrade intercooler pump and intend to replace the original one. Also, I have upgraded my exhaust with some American Racing long tube headers with a tune. There is one car that was left out of the video. The M113K engine is also in the SLR McLaren.
And what about the 2004.-2011. G55 AMG Kompressor, with the same M113K engine?
The M155 SLR is a version of the supercharged 5.5 liters (5439 cc) M113 specifically for the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren.
I forget the point when they switched, but I believe it started in 05, the super charger provided slightly higher boost. Like barely anything. maybe up to 12psi..... If i remember correct it was the gearing of the SC that changed a wee bit... part number look up will verify this.
you show go into detail about HWA... AMG's race division. during my 2015 AMG advanced tech training we toured the plant for a week in Affalterbach. crazy stuff going on there that most people have never heard of.
One day i will switch from my m113 to the m113k 😍
Love your videos 🙏🏿
Same here bro
K Lowenstein 🙏🏿
But i think the M113 5.4 is more reliable than the M113K 5.4 Because its naturally aspirated vs the Supercharged M113K
Unless u have the 5.0 variant of the M113 which only makes 300HP then u could opt to the M113K Cars with almost +200HP if u want more fun and Power
S55 after 03 facelift have got rust problems as well or is aluminium made ?
Was looking at getting a 2005 CLK55 AMG, doing my research, so thanks for the vid lol
I definitely recommend. (But this one is NA, not the same engine though)
@@mytrashaccount3630 I thought the 05 CLK 55's have the M113 minus the compressor? Based on this video, seems rather reliable.
@@markballa2521 That's what I also understood (thanks to wikipedia) but i should not have answered, it's getting to much technical for me. I just wanted you to know that you won't regret that buy :) I don't.
You don’t mention the CLK 55 amg 06 , is that different ? Thanks great review!