It sounds like a great discovery! I would personally volunteer as a subject to improve technology and see how far we can push the limitations of this ERA.
Isn't it only for movement alone? It can't, for example, know the nature of a rat's brain , of how it solves a maze, how it reacts to touch from something, etc... It only mimics the movements here...
@@alph4096 What does it mean "mimic neural activity"? Let AI learn in which places in the brain there is activity for various operations? If so, then for the function f(x)=y , it only gets estimation of y given the x, but not what f is doing, how, and why . I think research on this is very hard...
How long before a full human simulated brain, I wonder! Complete with, language, imagination, problem solving, motor movement, even emotions and possibly self awareness
I say we’re already passed that point but the recently signed agreement states that they have to slowly present newer models to the public so we don’t destroy society with a flaw that was looked over
@@Idontevenrapfam a simulated brain is different from AGI. I seriously doubt we have a simulated brain by this point given that we would need to understand every chemical reaction and it's effect on cognition, and that would likely require a full understanding of the human body and all of the chemicals, genetic expressions, biological interactions, etc. In order to properly simulate all of the inputs to the system. I am also doubtful if we have AGI at this point, but I am open to the possibility, just haven't seen any real evidence yet.
I just reached out to a table set beside me, but out of view as I look at my computer screen and found it with complete accuracy. A routine enough operation for a human, but a long way off for an AI robot I think (unless both are in a completely fixed position). I believe my brain is a quantum computer and I believe yours his too. The quantum computation occurs within the microtubules made of tubulin protein inside each neuronal body. Neurons are not mere switches, they are each a computer in their own right, connected to other neurons via synapses, but probably plugged into the quantum realm also - the greater consciousness. In other words, Orchestrated Objective reduction (Orch OR) as proposed by the British Nobel prize winning mathematician and physicist Professor Sir Roger Penrose and the Canadian anaesthesiologist Dr. Stuart Hameroff.
Wow this sounds like a PR commercial for Google. Elon's group is doing this now with a live person! Please learn to think for yourself and question everything with only the facts! Take care!
You have to admit that this virtual rat has very coarse simulation. It does not have fine simulation of muscles present in grooming, face expression etc.
Those studies emulate neurons in an incomplete way. There seems to be underlying quantum intrications going on that cannot be simulated, and many components that we still don't understand. So what insight can such a simulation give ? I guess, it will at best be able to mimic a superficial "mechanical" behavior of neurons, based on what we scientifically know about them and how they function. It leads to already fascinating discoveries, like LLMs and all AI as we know it, and all their capabilities. *But by ignoring their surrounding elements, like microtubules, synapses, etc, and ignoring potential quantum events, we won't be able to simulate life as it is.*
Could we possibly simulate the micro tubes at the macro level then pass those on off signals to a quantum computer and create a feedback loop between the two?
@@shrodingersman like you, I believe that quantum computing is the way we might be able to simulate something closer to what we call life, but there are 2 main problems : 1) we don't know what are the required elements for life, how they "work" and how to simulate them (if possible). We don't really even know what life is or how it can emerge from inert matter. The day a simulation taking inert matter will be able to give monocellular organisms, we would have done a GREAT and HUGE step into understanding what life is, but we are very far from that (specially with those kind of simulations shown on here which are interesting steps but far from reality) 2) we therefore don't know the required computing power to create such simulation, even to simulate the tiniest bit of life. It might be that we have what it takes already, or it might be that we would require even more power. There are attempts at creating "biological computers", that might be a way to go. But more importantly, as I already said, we don't know if life can be fully simulated. There are maybe elements of life that we cannot simply emulate because they are not mathematically constrained or physically describable (like consciousness, free-will). At best, we could replace them with randomness and pretend it works, but it would be an unprovable assumption, and nobody would know if it's the way nature works, even if the simulation renders into virtual bio-entities. I personally think that life cannot be replicated by mathematical methods.
You could place a real rat in a real lab and preform the same tasks with both this would allow you to deduct that what behaviors come from underlying quantum interactions and what behaviors are purely linked to neurons . This way we will understand the quantum interactions a bit more, or at least we will have a grasp of what they are and how they can be studied further. So what people call “soul “ can have an actual scientific ground IF there is something like that.
The fun of life itself is eroded already, thanks to outdated societal system, manipulated by politicians and fortified by legal systems. As Musk said, it is little too late for peoples trying to wake up and finding new concepts.....🤔😴😲🤔
Cool so they have street cams. Buy all that footage, toss it into deep mind, attach the output to the tesla bot. Boom. Automation for everything. Slap Claude 3 onto it and give it a voice and that entire issue is capped and solved. Lets go humans. Wtf are we waiting for?
Ai Brain? Is it too late to cease Ai? Remember Hansel and Gretal and that scenario? Luring us in with sweets? Just to be… laid off by Ai, then… suffer human extinction? Or worse, imprisoned by an… ai new world order? Enforced by swell robotics popping up everywhere… replacing you with Ai jobloss?
Все это ерунда, то что можно обучить модель автономно ходить это и ежу понятно. Вот если бы они отсканировали мозг мыши и на основе скана построили модель, то это было бы уже интересно, но тут трансформеры не подойдут, да и сложность нервоной читемы и т.д. является слишком сложной задачей, на сегодняшний день. Вообще не понятно, зачем они это сделали? Лучшебы сразу робота делали, но наверное этим уже никого не удивишь
it would be mad to have simulation of entire civilizations and see what kinds of culture they end up with. that moment you realize you are a lab rat in a giant simulation.
![The moment we stopped understanding AI [AlexNet]](/img/n.gif)
The ability of the virtual rat to generalize learning is mind-blowing! It’s incredible to think about the future implications for robotics.
Seems awesome but before such advancements, we need to have some sort of rules and regulations.
It sounds like a great discovery!
I would personally volunteer as a subject to improve technology and see how far we can push the limitations of this ERA.
Isn't it only for movement alone?
It can't, for example, know the nature of a rat's brain , of how it solves a maze, how it reacts to touch from something, etc...
It only mimics the movements here...
Yes. We were able to mimic neural activity, but extracting the theory behind how it works remains a separate challenge.
@@alph4096 What does it mean "mimic neural activity"?
Let AI learn in which places in the brain there is activity for various operations?
If so, then for the function f(x)=y , it only gets estimation of y given the x, but not what f is doing, how, and why .
I think research on this is very hard...
I think the future is going to be a very interesting place.
A good start for a better version of our true selves.
Although the ego *_will_* take a big *_hit 🎯..._*
Been there done that 😅
Yo@@xray-wz3gw - did you get the T-Short? 😋
Good video. A channel this size could use a human speaker. This robo voice is tiring.
Not possible without AGI.
Priority Computing, how wonderful for Harvard.
We're already biodegradable robots
😭😂
Mind blown! Wow! Both exciting and scary at the same time... 100% done
100% Done
I wonder how close to an organic brain researchs can get with Ai before it becomes unethical in the way it seems with live animals
🍷🥂🍻 May the future be ✅ 🙏
How long before a full human simulated brain, I wonder! Complete with, language, imagination, problem solving, motor movement, even emotions and possibly self awareness
Less than a decade.
Technology is evolving rapidly so I guess closer than we think
Within a decade
I say we’re already passed that point but the recently signed agreement states that they have to slowly present newer models to the public so we don’t destroy society with a flaw that was looked over
@@Idontevenrapfam a simulated brain is different from AGI. I seriously doubt we have a simulated brain by this point given that we would need to understand every chemical reaction and it's effect on cognition, and that would likely require a full understanding of the human body and all of the chemicals, genetic expressions, biological interactions, etc. In order to properly simulate all of the inputs to the system.
I am also doubtful if we have AGI at this point, but I am open to the possibility, just haven't seen any real evidence yet.
This is awesome! It opens up many possibilities! Both good and bad.
❤❤❤❤
That's good
I just reached out to a table set beside me, but out of view as I look at my computer screen and found it with complete accuracy. A routine enough operation for a human, but a long way off for an AI robot I think (unless both are in a completely fixed position). I believe my brain is a quantum computer and I believe yours his too. The quantum computation occurs within the microtubules made of tubulin protein inside each neuronal body. Neurons are not mere switches, they are each a computer in their own right, connected to other neurons via synapses, but probably plugged into the quantum realm also - the greater consciousness. In other words, Orchestrated Objective reduction (Orch OR) as proposed by the British Nobel prize winning mathematician and physicist Professor Sir Roger Penrose and the Canadian anaesthesiologist Dr. Stuart Hameroff.
Soo cool 🎉❤😊
yes, it is realy cool to be fool
Humanity is done for.
Change is never permanent, change is.....
😂
Good
Think of merge conflicts between human intelligence and AI
People will create themselves to live forever!
Wow this sounds like a PR commercial for Google. Elon's group is doing this now with a live person! Please learn to think for yourself and question everything with only the facts! Take care!
What Elon is doing is not even similar.
@@brandongillett2616 Correct, What elon is doing is way better!
@@prem_patel7 Maybe, but it is not even the same category of enterprise. The only similarity between the two is that they both have to do with brains.
Virtual neuroscience fascinating....
Let's just go open source with it all.
Everything
That would mean sharing
@@Morty_Mcfly2I think Yes. It could also mean customization of localized systems.
Wish him best of luck
0:36 Google Deepmind AL brain
one mind one planet
This is just "the way of thinking" ONLY, not how's brain working.
You have to admit that this virtual rat has very coarse simulation. It does not have fine simulation of muscles present in grooming, face expression etc.
I'm pretty sure the virtual brain doesn't think it's more humane to experiment on it than on us. Just saying.
Eventually we’ll be able to control real rats with a remote control to use them as spies
I think humanity is ending 👍
Those studies emulate neurons in an incomplete way. There seems to be underlying quantum intrications going on that cannot be simulated, and many components that we still don't understand.
So what insight can such a simulation give ? I guess, it will at best be able to mimic a superficial "mechanical" behavior of neurons, based on what we scientifically know about them and how they function. It leads to already fascinating discoveries, like LLMs and all AI as we know it, and all their capabilities.
*But by ignoring their surrounding elements, like microtubules, synapses, etc, and ignoring potential quantum events, we won't be able to simulate life as it is.*
Could we possibly simulate the micro tubes at the macro level then pass those on off signals to a quantum computer and create a feedback loop between the two?
@@shrodingersman like you, I believe that quantum computing is the way we might be able to simulate something closer to what we call life, but there are 2 main problems :
1) we don't know what are the required elements for life, how they "work" and how to simulate them (if possible). We don't really even know what life is or how it can emerge from inert matter. The day a simulation taking inert matter will be able to give monocellular organisms, we would have done a GREAT and HUGE step into understanding what life is, but we are very far from that (specially with those kind of simulations shown on here which are interesting steps but far from reality)
2) we therefore don't know the required computing power to create such simulation, even to simulate the tiniest bit of life. It might be that we have what it takes already, or it might be that we would require even more power. There are attempts at creating "biological computers", that might be a way to go. But more importantly, as I already said, we don't know if life can be fully simulated. There are maybe elements of life that we cannot simply emulate because they are not mathematically constrained or physically describable (like consciousness, free-will). At best, we could replace them with randomness and pretend it works, but it would be an unprovable assumption, and nobody would know if it's the way nature works, even if the simulation renders into virtual bio-entities.
I personally think that life cannot be replicated by mathematical methods.
You could place a real rat in a real lab and preform the same tasks with both this would allow you to deduct that what behaviors come from underlying quantum interactions and what behaviors are purely linked to neurons . This way we will understand the quantum interactions a bit more, or at least we will have a grasp of what they are and how they can be studied further. So what people call “soul “ can have an actual scientific ground IF there is something like that.
I feel like the fun and journey of getting rich soon gonna be taken over by AI
The fun of life itself is eroded already, thanks to outdated societal system, manipulated by politicians and fortified by legal systems. As Musk said, it is little too late for peoples trying to wake up and finding new concepts.....🤔😴😲🤔
Wow
Cool so they have street cams. Buy all that footage, toss it into deep mind, attach the output to the tesla bot. Boom. Automation for everything. Slap Claude 3 onto it and give it a voice and that entire issue is capped and solved. Lets go humans. Wtf are we waiting for?
Street cams are useless in training ai for cars
PET MICE WILL HELP 2 SOCIAL INTERACTION IN DOMESTICATION WITH HUMANS
sounds not very promising given the use of traditional data intensive training methods.
Shocking? What about?
i was so disappointed ... no war , no dragon fight , look like a soap movie lol
Ai Brain? Is it too late to cease Ai? Remember Hansel and Gretal and that scenario? Luring us in with sweets? Just to be… laid off by Ai, then… suffer human extinction? Or worse, imprisoned by an… ai new world order? Enforced by swell robotics popping up everywhere… replacing you with Ai jobloss?
This technology mentally made persons
Все это ерунда, то что можно обучить модель автономно ходить это и ежу понятно. Вот если бы они отсканировали мозг мыши и на основе скана построили модель, то это было бы уже интересно, но тут трансформеры не подойдут, да и сложность нервоной читемы и т.д. является слишком сложной задачей, на сегодняшний день. Вообще не понятно, зачем они это сделали? Лучшебы сразу робота делали, но наверное этим уже никого не удивишь
The terminator is coming...
❤ Hare Krišna 🍀🔥🎉🫀
it would be mad to have simulation of entire civilizations and see what kinds of culture they end up with.
that moment you realize you are a lab rat in a giant simulation.
Google Ai is garbage wtf are these guys talking about. Create decent Ai before coming with this bs
Rat works até govern
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First?