I love your videos! As a retired Army and electrical engineer, planning is 90% of my efforts and 10% is execution. Drive on Kadin! You are teaching this old dog new tricks!
For the bedrooms, bathrooms, laundry and any other small rooms, I used an 8" dual voice (both left and right to same speaker, but not mono). This saved money and the aggravation of lining up 2 speakers. Not to mention only cutting one hole. Result - They sound great! I would highly recommend to future installers.
Three years later and do you still like your dual voice speakers? I'm considering doing them in my whole home as it seems almost silly to wire every room for stereo just for background music. Want to make sure it's the right decision because there's no going back!!
@@we6871 They've been great. No regrets. Perfect for background music. Obviously not for 7.1 theater surround, but that's not the application. Good luck!
what about in large rooms? I as advised that even a single dual coil speaker in a rather large room would not give you the sound dispersion needed to sound good. All sound coming from one single pint in a large room (bigger than average bedroom)@@sagetx
@@we6871 My two largest rooms (living room and theater) had 4 pre installed speakers for surround sound by the builder. I hooked them up L&R but not F&B for surround through the WHA amp. Mostly because I didn't want to figure out another amplifier and signal routing. Works fine for us. I wouldn't use the dual voice speaker in any room large enough for 2 speakers. My 2 bedrooms that have a single DV speaker are approx 12` x 12`. They are placed center front of the room. Works fine as whole home background music. They have no direct connection to the TV that is in their respective room (only the living room TV through a source for example keeping up with the game on in the living room). Other rooms with single DVC speakers include kitchen, dining, laundry, master bath and office/lounge. Master bedroom is 16x16 and I put 2 better speakers in there for stereo and better quality sound. Mounted L and R of the bed. Never used them for TV stereo, but there is definitely a better experience grooving to music in there. Garage has 2 outdoor speakers the same as he used in the video for his back porch. HTH.
Yes, I've been planning in my head for many months, constantly thinking! I need to buy cable and speakers soon...as in this week. I am thinking i am going back with the Dayton Audio line. I just can't see how you can beat their level of engineering, and their cost point. They truly have engineered great speakers, and you don't have to pay premium for a "name". IE bose, polk, etc.
@@TheKMZ1 Cool video. How is the wireless signal on the streamers esp since they will be mounted on the second floor closet? Anyway to extend the signal for the streamers?
We have 2 story house (new build) trying to put zone amp in separate location. Do you have a video showing how to connect TV to AVR to zone amp with surround? Great Videos!!
Thanks for these videos. I just took advantage of the black Friday special at Soundavo. I bought the WS66i whole house kit and the price was $1,299.99. So another $50 less than using the TKMZ code! I also purchased the Monoprice 6 Zone Home Audio Multizone Controller and Amplifier Kit to use as a Slave to the nicer WS66i Soundavo. This kit was only $629.99 so nearly half the cost of the upgraded Soundavo. Not a bad deal for 12 zones. Thanks for your help KMZ1!
@@TheKMZ1 I know SOMEWHERE you said that the Monoprice 6 zone could be used as a slave (correct?). At least I hope I remembered that correctly! I'm having a hard time finding the Dayton Audio 6.5" speakers. Amazon is down to their last pair. Crazy.
We bought a house and all the zones (11 zones) were wired for speakers and controllers but they didn't finish it. I'm pretty excited about adding speakers and FINALLY getting rid of all the hanging speaker wires. lol Not complaining as it looks like the hardest part of the job is done. :-)
But if they burn out, isn't that the same thing as turning them off? Lol so I could leave it on until they burn out? Haha! but thanks i really had not heard about that
Hi there, Thanks for the videos, very helpful. I'm in the planning stages and starting to think of home audio, all pretty new to me. I like the idea of smart speaker integration and came across the HTD DMA-1240ADS. I love the way each zone combines a smart speaker for voice integration. Do the amps you use have these features or do you plan on integrating any to your setup? Sorry if you've gotten to this in newer videos, I'm still getting through them... Cheers, Mac
@@TheKMZ1 What do you mean by building an Alexa skill? Have you come across that HTD amplifier? What I don't like about it is that in order to have wall controls in each room that you need to buy a second Link controller amplifier to run the cat6 cables to...
Starlink has proprietary gear. Dish type antennae, their cable with its apple like connections to a WiFi distribution through a mesh router. No WPS button to push as instructed by Soundavo WS66i! When in the WIFI settings of my I phone I see WS66i asking for a pass word. Is there a default password for this system? No NSA 250-xxxxxx displayed.
Hi Katen (spelling ?? please correct me... ) given this is a 2 year old video, is the discount of $550 still valid on purchase of the WS66i package ? and... thanks for all the great videos, excellent work. Pierre.
Kadin, is it possible to link the WS66i to WiFi through a starlink Subscription? I had wired from starlink rcvr to lan1 input but it won’t discover this starlink WiFi source? Not your usual modem/router set-up.
Let's hope you don't have too many wiring issues :p I did it to my house (2 DA amps), some zones were quite challenging to wire ! We mostly have brick walls in my country. Too bad your dining room won't have speakers, are you sure ? You still have a free zone on one of you amps :p
I have hardwired the starlink to the WS66i but it’s not recognizing it. In WFI settings on my iPhone I only see WS66i and it’s asking for a pass word. Is there a default PW for the WS66i and would this link even take me anywhere?
You don't need to connect it to Wi-Fi, if it's hardwired that's all you need to do, it automatically connects the streamers and the app control module.
You mentioned plan to place 3 speakers in the high ceiling zone. Can you share how you will wire three speakers into one zone? How will that effect the total zone impedance?
I love your videos. I have the whole home audio series like 7 times. I have a couple of questions. Do you have an email where we can reach out and ask you some questions?
I want to do this to my house. Excuse my ignorance, but if you wanted to stream from an online source, the amp doesn't have that capability correct? Would you have to do it from a smart phone? Also, if its a 3 story house, is it wise put the amp in the basement on a network rack or middle floor?
This amplifier, the soundavo ws66i, has 2 wireless streamers built in. So you can stream directly to it without buying any additional stuff. Check out my last video on my channel where I talk about this amp. Regarding your other question, it's hard to answer that without inspecting how you would run the wire. For example, in my house if I had a direct easy run from the basement straight to the attic, then I would have put the amp in my basement.
@@TheKMZ1 Got it. I'll check that out. We just bought the house a few months ago and renovating it. So I'll probably pull up some sub floors before we put floors in. Awesome videos man. I'm planning now. How do you know what size speakers to put in a certain size room? Might go with 8 and 6.5 inch speakers.
@@rvernet2016 The size of speaker is somewhat just a preference for how you want it to look. 8 inch speakers have much larger appearance in the ceiling. So usually for lower ceilings i suggest 6.5 inch. For higher ceilings 8 inch or these fully enclosed ones in a large ceiling. I will be using 2 of these enclosed ones amzn.to/3kvVwPH Again this is mostly preference so others will have their own opinion.
@@scottalexander8856 I need to check again on Pandora, yes spotify works no issue at all. But you need spotify premium, that is all spotifies doing to get more money and is not a limitation to the streamer. Unfortunately spotify controls that
Sonos in this big of a house?! I'd have to disagree with you, I think that'd be much more costly, and having the built in volume controls and in ceiling speakers is a higher end look, in my opinion, which is what I'm going for! 😀
@@NoTengoIlusiones I agree the sounds quality is great, they do have a quality product, but it also comes at a premium. I'm not bashing them but their product is not the look I'm going for. Actually my house I sold which had this system in it (I left the system) the buyers were attracted by it
@@2mustange agree...that's why most of my devices use Zigbee or Z-wave. Wifi for laptops and mobiles...and sound. Also a good mesh network wired between ap's will do the trick ;)
I love your videos! As a retired Army and electrical engineer, planning is 90% of my efforts and 10% is execution. Drive on Kadin! You are teaching this old dog new tricks!
It is surprising how much there is a lack of home audio tutorials or even setups on youtube.
Would love to see how you setup your inputs and how you decided which ones to use
I bought a gorilla ladder from home depot. Got me to my 18' ceiling. Came in handy for the rest of the home to, v since it collapses so well.
For the bedrooms, bathrooms, laundry and any other small rooms, I used an 8" dual voice (both left and right to same speaker, but not mono). This saved money and the aggravation of lining up 2 speakers. Not to mention only cutting one hole.
Result - They sound great! I would highly recommend to future installers.
Three years later and do you still like your dual voice speakers? I'm considering doing them in my whole home as it seems almost silly to wire every room for stereo just for background music. Want to make sure it's the right decision because there's no going back!!
@@we6871 They've been great. No regrets. Perfect for background music. Obviously not for 7.1 theater surround, but that's not the application.
Good luck!
what about in large rooms? I as advised that even a single dual coil speaker in a rather large room would not give you the sound dispersion needed to sound good. All sound coming from one single pint in a large room (bigger than average bedroom)@@sagetx
@@we6871 My two largest rooms (living room and theater) had 4 pre installed speakers for surround sound by the builder. I hooked them up L&R but not F&B for surround through the WHA amp. Mostly because I didn't want to figure out another amplifier and signal routing. Works fine for us.
I wouldn't use the dual voice speaker in any room large enough for 2 speakers. My 2 bedrooms that have a single DV speaker are approx 12` x 12`. They are placed center front of the room. Works fine as whole home background music. They have no direct connection to the TV that is in their respective room (only the living room TV through a source for example keeping up with the game on in the living room).
Other rooms with single DVC speakers include kitchen, dining, laundry, master bath and office/lounge.
Master bedroom is 16x16 and I put 2 better speakers in there for stereo and better quality sound. Mounted L and R of the bed. Never used them for TV stereo, but there is definitely a better experience grooving to music in there.
Garage has 2 outdoor speakers the same as he used in the video for his back porch.
HTH.
A lot of details and planning, I'm waiting to see what speakers you are considering. Great job including your wife, she's a trooper.
Yes, I've been planning in my head for many months, constantly thinking! I need to buy cable and speakers soon...as in this week. I am thinking i am going back with the Dayton Audio line. I just can't see how you can beat their level of engineering, and their cost point. They truly have engineered great speakers, and you don't have to pay premium for a "name". IE bose, polk, etc.
@@TheKMZ1
Cool video. How is the wireless signal on the streamers esp since they will be mounted on the second floor closet? Anyway to extend the signal for the streamers?
@@TheKMZ1 Cannot agree more. I love my DA speakers too.
We have 2 story house (new build) trying to put zone amp in separate location. Do you have a video showing how to connect TV to AVR to zone amp with surround? Great Videos!!
Yeah watch this one and I talk about it ua-cam.com/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/v-deo.html
Thanks for these videos. I just took advantage of the black Friday special at Soundavo. I bought the WS66i whole house kit and the price was $1,299.99. So another $50 less than using the TKMZ code! I also purchased the Monoprice 6 Zone Home Audio Multizone Controller and Amplifier Kit to use as a Slave to the nicer WS66i Soundavo. This kit was only $629.99 so nearly half the cost of the upgraded Soundavo. Not a bad deal for 12 zones. Thanks for your help KMZ1!
No problem! You got a great deal 😁
@@TheKMZ1 I know SOMEWHERE you said that the Monoprice 6 zone could be used as a slave (correct?). At least I hope I remembered that correctly! I'm having a hard time finding the Dayton Audio 6.5" speakers. Amazon is down to their last pair. Crazy.
We bought a house and all the zones (11 zones) were wired for speakers and controllers but they didn't finish it. I'm pretty excited about adding speakers and FINALLY getting rid of all the hanging speaker wires. lol Not complaining as it looks like the hardest part of the job is done. :-)
@@kirkbedtelyon yeah you didn't have to do the hardest part! Yes the monoprice unit will work as the slave 100% no issues
Do you know if it would work with alexa to play music? Could that be one of the sources?
Turn off the LEDs on your AP. Ubiquity is known for those blue LEDs the burn out. Both of mine have on my NanoHD’s.
But if they burn out, isn't that the same thing as turning them off? Lol so I could leave it on until they burn out? Haha! but thanks i really had not heard about that
Hi there,
Thanks for the videos, very helpful. I'm in the planning stages and starting to think of home audio, all pretty new to me.
I like the idea of smart speaker integration and came across the HTD DMA-1240ADS. I love the way each zone combines a smart speaker for voice integration.
Do the amps you use have these features or do you plan on integrating any to your setup?
Sorry if you've gotten to this in newer videos, I'm still getting through them...
Cheers,
Mac
It is my plan to build an alexa skill yes. But currently there is not a solution for it but yes it's definitely on my road map
@@TheKMZ1 What do you mean by building an Alexa skill?
Have you come across that HTD amplifier?
What I don't like about it is that in order to have wall controls in each room that you need to buy a second Link controller amplifier to run the cat6 cables to...
Starlink has proprietary gear. Dish type antennae, their cable with its apple like connections to a WiFi distribution through a mesh router. No WPS button to push as instructed by Soundavo WS66i!
When in the WIFI settings of my I phone I see WS66i asking for a pass word. Is there a default password for this system? No NSA 250-xxxxxx displayed.
Can you hardwire an Ethernet connection from your starlink router to the LAN1 of your ws66i?
I would love to avoid WiFi linking but the app won’t let me proceed with out discovery of NSA250-XXX in WiFi settings. Is there a way around this?
Hi Katen (spelling ?? please correct me... ) given this is a 2 year old video, is the discount of $550 still valid on purchase of the WS66i package ? and... thanks for all the great videos, excellent work. Pierre.
It's valid still yes
Kadin, is it possible to link the WS66i to WiFi through a starlink Subscription? I had wired from starlink rcvr to lan1 input but it won’t discover this starlink WiFi source? Not your usual modem/router set-up.
I'm not familiar with starlink, does it not use a standard router?
Let's hope you don't have too many wiring issues :p I did it to my house (2 DA amps), some zones were quite challenging to wire ! We mostly have brick walls in my country. Too bad your dining room won't have speakers, are you sure ? You still have a free zone on one of you amps :p
In my opinion you should have put the amps in the utility room :P
I have hardwired the starlink to the WS66i but it’s not recognizing it. In WFI settings on my iPhone I only see WS66i and it’s asking for a pass word. Is there a default PW for the WS66i and would this link even take me anywhere?
You don't need to connect it to Wi-Fi, if it's hardwired that's all you need to do, it automatically connects the streamers and the app control module.
How much Ethernet cable did you use roughly for all 6 switches
Ballpark, probably 600 or so feet. Ethernet cable is so cheap, just get yourself a 1000 foot box and you will be set! amzn.to/3z3OHwK
You mentioned plan to place 3 speakers in the high ceiling zone. Can you share how you will wire three speakers into one zone? How will that effect the total zone impedance?
Yes, I am actually going to be doing a video soon, showing how you can get 3, 4 and even more speakers than that in 1 zone!
Question my sources, tv,
laptop etc. does not have rca cable inputs, what other cables types can do I run to the amp ?
You can get an rca to 3.5mm cable, that's probably one of the more popular options. There is also an optical cable input which is common for TV's.
@@TheKMZ1 thanks
I love your videos. I have the whole home audio series like 7 times. I have a couple of questions. Do you have an email where we can reach out and ask you some questions?
Thanks for watching! support@kztechconsulting.com
@@TheKMZ1 thank you!
Are keypads necessary if you have iPhone to operate the system from anywhere?
No, you don't need the keypads, you can use just the app if you want to
But I like the keypads personally :)
I want to do this to my house. Excuse my ignorance, but if you wanted to stream from an online source, the amp doesn't have that capability correct? Would you have to do it from a smart phone? Also, if its a 3 story house, is it wise put the amp in the basement on a network rack or middle floor?
This amplifier, the soundavo ws66i, has 2 wireless streamers built in. So you can stream directly to it without buying any additional stuff. Check out my last video on my channel where I talk about this amp. Regarding your other question, it's hard to answer that without inspecting how you would run the wire. For example, in my house if I had a direct easy run from the basement straight to the attic, then I would have put the amp in my basement.
@@TheKMZ1 Got it. I'll check that out. We just bought the house a few months ago and renovating it. So I'll probably pull up some sub floors before we put floors in. Awesome videos man. I'm planning now. How do you know what size speakers to put in a certain size room? Might go with 8 and 6.5 inch speakers.
@@rvernet2016 The size of speaker is somewhat just a preference for how you want it to look. 8 inch speakers have much larger appearance in the ceiling. So usually for lower ceilings i suggest 6.5 inch. For higher ceilings 8 inch or these fully enclosed ones in a large ceiling. I will be using 2 of these enclosed ones amzn.to/3kvVwPH Again this is mostly preference so others will have their own opinion.
@@TheKMZ1 Still no pandora and spotify?
@@scottalexander8856 I need to check again on Pandora, yes spotify works no issue at all. But you need spotify premium, that is all spotifies doing to get more money and is not a limitation to the streamer. Unfortunately spotify controls that
Wired ?.... Sonos or similar man !
Sonos in this big of a house?! I'd have to disagree with you, I think that'd be much more costly, and having the built in volume controls and in ceiling speakers is a higher end look, in my opinion, which is what I'm going for! 😀
@@TheKMZ1 Sonos works on big houses to. The delay is tuned individually for each column. Avoid tha hassle of cabling...and sound quality is 5*
@@NoTengoIlusiones I agree the sounds quality is great, they do have a quality product, but it also comes at a premium. I'm not bashing them but their product is not the look I'm going for. Actually my house I sold which had this system in it (I left the system) the buyers were attracted by it
ehh nothing beats having a wire. Also mitigates congestion
@@2mustange agree...that's why most of my devices use Zigbee or Z-wave. Wifi for laptops and mobiles...and sound. Also a good mesh network wired between ap's will do the trick ;)