I did, genuinely, contact the Bank of England to ask if I could see the gold bars (as they still have them). They said no :( Secure your privacy with Surfshark! Enter coupon code CALUM for an extra 3 months free at surfshark.deals/calum
While watching this documentary, I was thinking of your show on the Baychimo. It was amazing, but the ship just did what it's builders expected. It survived its job and then some. Good shipbuilders that should have been used alot!
It might be worth asking Brady Haran (youtuber) He may just be able to help, he's filmed inside the bank's gold vault, (more than once I think). it's got to be worth a shot (and he seems like the kind of dude that would help.
You can visit the Bank of England museum and in there hold and try to lift a real gold bar. Much heavier than you would expect, and no doubt a bit of a trek for you to visit.
I was on board durinng that second salvage and we where allowed to hold a few bars and take pictures! I then tried to make a copy of the front with the markings but alas the carriage of the copier could not cope with the weight of the bar and did not move. So i only have a polaroid of myself with a bar of gold. The bars feel odd because they are so very heavy for their size! I also remember that some of the bars where not shiny at all when coming up, they where covered with black residue or whatever so they where cleaning these on deck. The story about the disappeared 5 bars i never knew like that, i thought they where just not able to find them and time was running out. Afaik there where 7 missing and we recovered something like 26 but maybe i am wrong after all these years... Too bad i don't have any pics of that time. In this salvage they also recovered the bell and a wooden sign of one of the lifeboats or some small boat very near the wreck. Is the bell in some museum now?
Sory to hear about your Grandfathers passing, my condolences to you and your family. Thank you for another very interesting story which I really enjoyed watching.
@@CalumRaasayI'm in my early 40s and my grandpa is dieing from cancer right now, could lose him any day.. He is my rock and toughest man I'll ever have the honor to be part of. I am very sorry for your loss and just wanna say I hope I can handle this like you 🙏 God bless you bro
My grandfather served on 2 Arctic Convoys, I can't do justice to his descriptions of constant fear and cold (and the consequent lifelong love of rum). The experience effected him until the day he died (only a few years ago). I'll always be thankful that he did what he did (and to the millions of others that did likewise) Grandads are awesome!
I've taken a couple of trips up that way by road (northern norway is awesome!), and it was frighteningly cold, but with solid ground under my boots, a warm dry cab to get back into, and nobody was trying to torpedo me. Too many people have no idea about these convoys. Thanks for helping keep the story alive! (and all the other cool stories too!)
@@CalumRaasay from what I've read/heard, it was far worse than that, and yet it's an almost unknown part of the war effort these days. How many people realise that the Red Army that pushed back the Nazis and ultimately helped us to attack them from the west, often drove US made trucks and tanks, and fired US and British weapons? All supplied by those convoys, and those incredibly brave men. As we see with Putin's invasion of Ukraine, we forget the war and the lessons we should have learnt from it at our peril.
Very good and true coming. Though I feel that it must be mentioned ; for all the dangers faced by the other Allies in bringing supplies to the Soviet Union with these Artic convoys, we in the "West" tend to overstate and overestimate the actual battlefield impact of the supplies these Sailors and Merchant seamen risked their lives to deliver. While the Soviets held off and eventually conquered the Nazis using Studebaker and Chrysler trucks for real, and the additional food and supplies fueled the Red Army - When we overstate what we gave the Soviet Union under "Lend - Lease", we are taking (sometimes inadvertently) too much credit away from the manufacturing and sacrifices by Soviet citizens while they were doing the "heavy lifting" in the efforts to defeat Nazi Germany. All that being said : The "Artic War" and these Artic Convoys were important, along with the Norway campaign are far too overlooked and under appreciated now a days (though Mark And Military History Visualized have a few videos covering aspects of these WWII stories).
25years ago I was working on a building site in Norfolk I met an elderly Painter who mentioned he served on the Edinburgh. I remarked " that it was sunk ". His reply was " Yes I was on it". The next day he came on site, with a dogged eard war Diary , which was obviously not allowed. However, he got away with it. On top of that , whilst he and his crew mates were trying to secure the ship, he managed to take a photo of the peeled back deck overlapping the gun turret. Again using a camera was strictly forbidden.! He did say that he was one side of a Bulkhead. The other side 54 men were killed by the Refrigeration gas pipes fracturing when the Torpedo struck .He confirmed everything, including a letter from an Author who had just written a book in the early Nineties on the Edinburgh sinking, who said, "He wished he had held the book at the time "! I have only mentioned a small amount he had on him.
Any chance you would be willing to mention the rest of what you remember? That is an amazing story and I, for one, would love to hear it. Refrigeration gasses are not kind to humans.
My condolences on the loss of your grandfather. My maternal grandfather was serving aboard the Edinburgh as a signalman. A Frenchman, he had escaped to Britain when France surrendered to Germany, and was given an assumed name and signed up with the Royal Navy. He stayed on in Glasgow after the war, married and raised a family, and here I am. He never spoke much about his experience on the Edinburgh - having read something about it, I can understand why. It must have affected him deeply. Thank you for the video.
excellent stuff Callum, worked with one of the divers who was on the job and he gave me a a cap off a 6" shell that had come off the wreck. Also told me a yarn about how they super glued the lock on the room in Stephaniturm so the two Soviet inspectors that accompanied them on the voyage couldn't get in to inspect the bars :-)
@@CalumRaasayI've crossed Keith Jessop's path a time or two. Usually following in his footsteps on Islay, Oban and the Mull of Galloway. I say footsteps, I should say 'trail of destruction'
Another great work! I love the way you build your scripts, faithfully describing the battle and HMS Edinburgh final moments, then moving on to Keith Jessup's work and research, the salvage, the aftermath and the "conspiracy theories" surrounding the missing 5 gold bars. The cherry on top was finding one of the original crew! Sorry to hear about your loss. Your grandpa seems to have been a great guy. May his memory be a blessing.
Thank you! Takes a long bloody time to get these scripts made (I need to get faster at writing them!) but I think it's worth it to try and weave a good story!
Yet again another incredibly well researched and produced video that wouldn't look out of place on a respectable televised documentary platform, in fact it puts a lot of them to shame. As soon as I saw that notification I had to click straight on.
Awesome video. Very well done. My Grandfather was on the USS Alabama while she was trying to lure out the Tirpitz in Norway. I grew up on his stories of him getting up before sunrise every morning and spending the first few hours of the day breaking ice off the ship so she would be ready to fight at daybreak. Gave me a lot of respect for the crews of those ships that fought in the war. Every day was a challenge and everything could completely change in a second.
I have watched several of your videos, they're all good. The part at the end of this one about your relationship with your Grandfather was the best part of this excellent release. Thank you.
My grandfather was from Raasay, and his son ( my father) Kenny Gillies was serving as a radio officer on HMS Edinburgh when it was sunk. The video was most interesting, and it gave me a lot of information that my father never spoke about. This was not unusual, as after the war, apparently, it was common for those serving, not to speak about their experiences. My father retired to Raasay and was laid to rest in the cemetery above the Old Post Office. Having spent all my holidays on Raasay, I had the pleasure of knowing your late grandfather. Lovely man.
The Diver who shot to fame by finding and carrying out the 1st Gold Bar with the shouts "I found the Gold" is a very old friend of mine from Rhodesia at that time - its NOW Zimbabwe. John Rossier is his name - as the news article attached shows - John was an excellent soldier in the Rhodesian SAS during our war ( '66-80) , and it goes to show what excellent training was afforded our Full Time Soldiers in the Rhodesian war. Rhodesia was a landlocked country, and yet still produced a diver who could not only withstand the rigours of that Operation?, but also perform above expectation in the open ocean. Salute John.
Wow! What a huge load of effort clearly went into this tremendous work! So thankful to live in a time where I can learn from these great Calum documentaries! Condolences for the loss of your grandfather, and wishing the best for you and your family.
This is criminally underrated. The story arc of this video is just perfect in my opinion, had me glued all the way through. How does this have so few views?
Excellent work, friend. Your opening sequence had me hooked. I think you did a good job to show the due respect for the bravery and heroism and the full measure of devotion that those sailors gave. Very detailed report. Looking forward to your next.
Thanks again for another fabulous, well put-together, compelling-told story. My condolences on your loss. My grandfather served with the Royal Navy in Murmansk at the end of the war.
Sorry to hear of your grandfather's passing, i sure miss mine, though it's been a long time ago. My grandpa was my best friend, and i hope to see him on the last day. Glad your grandfather watched your channel, and was able to see it grow, and to give you stories that live on. I enjoy your video's, and how you try to portray thing's as accurately as you can without any dark drama. G-d bless.
Grandpa's are the greatest gift a young man could ever hope for! I'm losing mine quickly and now I must be strong enough without him to make him proud. Hope I can be half the man he is. God bless Grandpa's
Fascinating, insightful, explained in easily to understand terms, and expertly researched with citations. Oh yeah and a freaking interview with one of the men who was there during the first recovery! Amazing as always Calum. Can't thank you enough for the hard work and time you put into these "little" UA-cam documentaries.
Thank you so much! It’s fun trying to push yourself to do something different and when I found Dougie I realised I had something unique to bring to the subject!
My deepest condolences for the loss of your grandfather. It was wonderful to hear and learn of this story, especially with your familial connection to it!
Generally speaking, a UK court can't enforce its orders outside the UK, so without a separate, successful American suit, there would be no legal (or business) reason to pull the book from American shelves. Assuming it was a civil case, the reasoning would go something like, "Well, the civil standard is only 'balance of probability', not 'preponderance of evidence', so it's only been found _legally_ libellous, not _factually_ so. That's no reason to pull it from the shelves in other markets. We can still make a few bob on it. Heaven forbid we should make a _loss!!"_ 🤦♀
@@CalumRaasay for divers working at those depths in todays world, there must be around 50 to 100 divers (and I am being generous) certified to work at those depths. Yes there are technological advances but the humand body hasnt changed in 40 years. lol I suspect things would be harder to do today unless you went down a ROV route.
Fascinating story, well told. You did the story and the people involved (in both periods) proud with this. Many thanks. I first encountered the story of HMS Edinburgh's loss when reading the book 'The Ship That Torpedoed Itself' - the story of HMS Trinidad - back in the 1990s. Quite apart from the savage battle which had taken place, I'll always remember how, upon his arrival back in Murmansk, Rear-Admiral Bonham-Carter hitched another ride home on the 'Crown Colony'- or 'Fiji'-class light cruiser HMS Trinidad. Trinidad had been under repair at Murmansk following serious (and tragically self-inflicted) torpedo damage in another ferocious close-range battle with German destroyers during convoy PQ-13's run in towards Murmansk. With her hull patched and Bonham-Carter aboard, the cruiser set sail for home... only to be set upon shortly into the journey by enemy air attack. A single Junkers 88 dive-bomber straddled Trinidad with a stick of four 500lb bombs and one of the near-misses landed right alongside the patch, blowing it in. That was the end for HMS Trinidad; the crew were taken off and she went to the bottom of the Barents Sea. This was the second cruiser to be sunk underneath Bonham-Carter in as many trips. He was earning a reputation as a Jonah by the time he boarded his *third* cruiser home - but this time they all made it safely. One of the best gifts my grandfather (who raised me with my Nan as my foster parents) ever gave me was a big book about the Arctic Convoys for Christmas in 1997 - he died the following year, aged just 67.
Condolences to you and your family on the loss of your grandfather. This was another terrific, interesting, educational and entertaining video, well done. Thanks for all your hard work on these.
Touching comment about your grandpa. My heart thought on my kin that've passed, the people they were at the end and before, their anachronisms and quirks. Very nice touch.
Just keep doing what you're doing. Felt like I was 8 years old and how glued I was to the TV when the show was on. You succeed time and time again, do it. Thanks
Fascinating video, Calum. My grandfather was Bosun on Atheltemplar, one of the tankers in QP11 the convoy that HMS Edinburgh was escorting. He told me how relieved they felt when Edinburgh came up through the convoy ….. just a few hours before she was torpedoed.
Wow, how interesting I read a the atheltemplar listed a few times! It was some horrible irony- so many accounts of the relief seeing the Edinburgh and the tragedy that followed
So much to unpack from that video. Such an interesting story about the Edinburgh, Sorry to hear about your Grandfather. I'm sure he knows all about technology up there and will watch, rewatch and watch again all your old and upcoming videos. Another little niche thing I just wanted to say was that I liked the fact that you put the black and white box in the top right before you did your sponsor. A very niche but interesting thing to do! Keep making bangers Calum!
Great video mate. We are at that time where we are loosing so many due to their DOB, they could tell us so much more about our recent history but, thats life. My condolences to you and your family for your loss. I lost Dad back in 1995 but I still want to tell him stuff and ask him even more.
One has to wonder why the journalist felt the need to embellish an already interesting story with such slanderous lies, the gold recovery was an achievement in itself. My condolences about your grandfather.
Wharton discusses it in his book, as does Jessop. I think Penrose was a bit annoyed at the lack of access he was getting during the salvage, and that perhaps he also misheard some of the chat and jokes made by the divers and ran with it. But the entire operation was being watched incredibly closely, the idea that anything like he described happening seems pretty unlikely.
There's a British ship with the whole colony's military pay chest that hit a rock and sank around Manhattan island. It is probably 6 to 8 block inland now from reclamation and nobody ever got to it before it was buried besides some scraps of planks to harden the conviction it was still down there and keep people trying for a while.
Actually, part of that gold could be Spanish. During the Civil War the Republican Government evacuated Spanish gold reserves to the Soviet Union not to be seen ever again. That was the famous tale of the 'Moscow's gold' that vanished during the war and nobody was held responsible for. An ironic ending for this misadventure: the gold treasured for centuries by Spain, coming from the New World and avoiding mostly (but not limited to) British pirates, is sent to the Soviet Union for safety, who deposits it in a British ship for even more safety in the New World and the British ship gets sunk!
My condolences on your grandfathers passing. I too used to love talking with my “Papa”, that was almost 40 years ago. I still cherish the moments. Very interesting video, as always. Cheers
Fascinating video about an incident I have never heard or read about, and considering one of my big interests is maritime history that’s saying something. My condolences on the passing of your grandfather.
I wish you my condolences on your grandfather. Even though it's no surprise losing relatives in that age, it still changes a lot, like a part of your history suddenly don't exists anymore. And you move one step up the letter. But life goes on.😊 thanks for yet another great video!
"Five more bars had been found in the bomb room but left by the entranceway. So that they could be recovered should they return in the years to come *remember this" Gosh I wonder if the gold is still gonna be there when they come back
@@CalumRaasayI'm sorry to hear of your grandfathers passing and am thankful for his part in making you the creator you are. I really appreciate your channel and all the love and time you clearly put into it. I always look forward to the videos you make. ❤
Thanks for this fascinating documentary. I joined Racal-Decca in 1983. Even then we had a few folk who were still basking in the glory of being "the ones" who found HMS Edinburgh. :-)
Hi, great video. IMO a great (fictional) story that conveys the hardships of the article convoys is " HMS Ulysses " by Alastair Maclean who served in the Royal Navy in WWII , including on the arctic convoys.
I remember this story very well, i used to get the Sunday Times Magazine and followed the story, i remember the removal of the gold at such a depth. I remember seeing the basket filled with gold ingots , and other items. I believe that the Royal navy along with any person that had served on those cruel voyages , was not happy with the ship which was classed as a War grave being disturbed for the price of gold. Many people would class this as a violation,
Yes, that was what made the salvage controversial at the time. It was the reason they were only allowed to cut into the hull and not to use any explosives. As Dougie said they were very respectful and in later news reports I believe many of the survivors felt they had done a good job, especially after talking to many of the divers involved. I will say, and this is something some can correct me on, I don't believe the Edinburgh (or any ship at that time) was an "Official War Grave". I said that in the video but I can't find a single piece of legislation before the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986 that made any wreck an "Official War Grave". Again, happy to be corrected it was just something I realised as I got to the end of the edit.
3/7/24..Calum..Hello from New Orleans, La area 🇺🇸. Much appreciate your incredable research & time spent on this subject..I was USAF in mid 1970's ( Berlin Tempelhof) so have no military or career experiences with Navy or war time horrors as your UK Navy men who suffered the ultimate price for serving to protect their country. Prayers, very late to all their families. Also condolences to you for loss of your Grandfather. I can feel that you were very close to him & he to you! That is wonderful family bonds, glad you mentioned this. Your video covered lots of detail, technology issues, professional deep water hazardous diving conditions, successful recovery of ..what 90 % of Gold bars...that was a fantastic effort & great accomplishment! Great historic information touching all 3 of Allies (UK, USA & Russia). Glad all divers were ok & have tremendous experience on their Resume's. Also were the technicians involved with very important details supporting the divers. Ok, just wanted to say 'well done' on your interest, in-depth research, your time & video expertise in assembling the many details to make & present this information to all we YT viewers. Yhx again, much enjoyed your historic & educational presentation. Am sure your Grandfather (& all other family) are very pleased with all your efforts in this endeavor. Stay safe & carry on!👍👍🍺😊
A lesser known story overseas, but absolutely fascinating to watch and learn about! Well done, like all your astonishing work! My condolences on the loss of your Grand dad.
Hello Calum, another excellent and well researched video as we've come to expect. How mean the Bank of England are! I can't wait for the next video. May your Grandfather rest in peace.
Sorry for the loss of your Grand Pa, but you'll have memories to share with your children, and grandchildren that will keep his memory alive for years to come. As always young man you've set another high bench mark for your next video to have to live up to, but I don't think you'll have a problem doing that. You seem to improve with each new video, and in saying that, your first was better than those of some who had more money, and staff than you by a large percentage. Can't wait for the next one to come across notifying me that it's once again time for a big cup of coffee, but see what you've got for us all to see. Take care, and be well
Thank you! Much appreciated. Was lucky to have my ol' seanair as long as I did. Thanks for the kind comments on the videos! I like to feel I learn a new trick or editing technique with each one. Though I'd like to try and make some shorter videos some time! Lot of work for these 30 minute+ behemoths!
@@CalumRaasay Yes I'm sure they are, but from the viewers point of view, you make it truly worth every minute of video you create for everyone to see. The great thing about this format, is they'll be around far into the future, which allows even more people to learn from your efforts. Hopefully that helps you continue with your future projects. Regardless, the quality is there, and whether they're 15 minutes, or 2 and half hours. I'm positive that you will always have plenty who will be glued in front of whatever device they're using to watch your videos. Have a Great Day, and thank you for taking the time to respond, as well as making the videos you sp kindly share with the world.
I remember the dive happening and Keith Jessops drive to make it so Calum. Fascination story, really well told and I think ( but will stand correction) Alistair McLean used the back story of Edinburgh for "HMS Ulysses", his first novel. Thanks for this and for the massive effort you've put in
Great video Calum! Sorry to hear about your Papa (Lowland Scots variation), I've no doubt the encouragement he gave you, will carry on into the future.
I remember watching the documentary on this salvage operation on PBS here in the US when I was 9. It fascinated me with all the hard hat diving and heavy engineering needed. Probably had a part in my becoming an engineer later in life. In '01, I was able to tour HMS Belfast in London. Very interesting to me to be on board the sister ship of Edinburgh.
Popping in to say that UA-cam just showed me this video 10+ days after posting. Noticed the count is lower. Might be the same for others. Excellent watch as usual, Calum!
Many thanks for that video Callum, found it really interesting. It clears up something that has kinda bothered me for years, I was working in Peterhead when the “Stephaniturm”offloaded the Uk’s share of the gold, security was pretty tight, i believe she was berthed at the end of the North Breakwater, we were not allowed anywhere near the vessel until well after it had discharged its cargo. Happen to be in the same drinking establishment as some of the crew who were celebrating a successful job, i believe were a couple of the divers in the group, talk was of the excitement of finding the gold, the work conditions and how difficult it was to access the gold. There was no mention of human remains being found or tampered with. Later on i was surprised to hear about these allegations, found it hard to believe actually. After 40 yrs I was pleased to hear you report that these allegations were proven false. Btw, the recovery vessel was Stephaniturm, think you pronounced it slightly differently, not that it matters. Thank you again for an amazing video.
I did, genuinely, contact the Bank of England to ask if I could see the gold bars (as they still have them). They said no :(
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While watching this documentary, I was thinking of your show on the Baychimo. It was amazing, but the ship just did what it's builders expected. It survived its job and then some. Good shipbuilders that should have been used alot!
It might be worth asking Brady Haran (youtuber) He may just be able to help, he's filmed inside the bank's gold vault, (more than once I think). it's got to be worth a shot (and he seems like the kind of dude that would help.
Outrageous, I say I say!
You can visit the Bank of England museum and in there hold and try to lift a real gold bar. Much heavier than you would expect, and no doubt a bit of a trek for you to visit.
I was on board durinng that second salvage and we where allowed to hold a few bars and take pictures! I then tried to make a copy of the front with the markings but alas the carriage of the copier could not cope with the weight of the bar and did not move. So i only have a polaroid of myself with a bar of gold. The bars feel odd because they are so very heavy for their size! I also remember that some of the bars where not shiny at all when coming up, they where covered with black residue or whatever so they where cleaning these on deck. The story about the disappeared 5 bars i never knew like that, i thought they where just not able to find them and time was running out. Afaik there where 7 missing and we recovered something like 26 but maybe i am wrong after all these years... Too bad i don't have any pics of that time. In this salvage they also recovered the bell and a wooden sign of one of the lifeboats or some small boat very near the wreck. Is the bell in some museum now?
Sory to hear about your Grandfathers passing, my condolences to you and your family. Thank you for another very interesting story which I really enjoyed watching.
Thank you. Great man, lucky to have had him so long!
@@CalumRaasayI'm in my early 40s and my grandpa is dieing from cancer right now, could lose him any day.. He is my rock and toughest man I'll ever have the honor to be part of. I am very sorry for your loss and just wanna say I hope I can handle this like you 🙏 God bless you bro
My grandfather served on 2 Arctic Convoys, I can't do justice to his descriptions of constant fear and cold (and the consequent lifelong love of rum). The experience effected him until the day he died (only a few years ago). I'll always be thankful that he did what he did (and to the millions of others that did likewise)
Grandads are awesome!
You know, my biggest regret with this video is that I wasn’t able to communicate enough of that cold. It sounds like absolute hell
I've taken a couple of trips up that way by road (northern norway is awesome!), and it was frighteningly cold, but with solid ground under my boots, a warm dry cab to get back into, and nobody was trying to torpedo me.
Too many people have no idea about these convoys. Thanks for helping keep the story alive!
(and all the other cool stories too!)
@@theafro nobody that you know of trying to torpedo you ;)
@@CalumRaasay from what I've read/heard, it was far worse than that, and yet it's an almost unknown part of the war effort these days. How many people realise that the Red Army that pushed back the Nazis and ultimately helped us to attack them from the west, often drove US made trucks and tanks, and fired US and British weapons? All supplied by those convoys, and those incredibly brave men. As we see with Putin's invasion of Ukraine, we forget the war and the lessons we should have learnt from it at our peril.
Very good and true coming. Though I feel that it must be mentioned ; for all the dangers faced by the other Allies in bringing supplies to the Soviet Union with these Artic convoys, we in the "West" tend to overstate and overestimate the actual battlefield impact of the supplies these Sailors and Merchant seamen risked their lives to deliver. While the Soviets held off and eventually conquered the Nazis using Studebaker and Chrysler trucks for real, and the additional food and supplies fueled the Red Army - When we overstate what we gave the Soviet Union under "Lend - Lease", we are taking (sometimes inadvertently) too much credit away from the manufacturing and sacrifices by Soviet citizens while they were doing the "heavy lifting" in the efforts to defeat Nazi Germany. All that being said :
The "Artic War" and these Artic Convoys were important, along with the Norway campaign are far too overlooked and under appreciated now a days (though Mark And Military History Visualized have a few videos covering aspects of these WWII stories).
25years ago I was working on a building site in Norfolk I met an elderly Painter who mentioned he served on the Edinburgh. I remarked " that it was sunk ". His reply was " Yes I was on it". The next day he came on site, with a dogged eard war Diary , which was obviously not allowed. However, he got away with it. On top of that , whilst he and his crew mates were trying to secure the ship, he managed to take a photo of the peeled back deck overlapping the gun turret. Again using a camera was strictly forbidden.! He did say that he was one side of a Bulkhead. The other side 54 men were killed by the Refrigeration gas pipes fracturing when the Torpedo struck .He confirmed everything, including a letter from an Author who had just written a book in the early Nineties on the Edinburgh sinking, who said, "He wished he had held the book at the time "! I have only mentioned a small amount he had on him.
Any chance you would be willing to mention the rest of what you remember? That is an amazing story and I, for one, would love to hear it. Refrigeration gasses are not kind to humans.
An incredible story.
Thank you for sharing 🙏
Opening shot giving The Operations Room vibes
I've cancelled this message a couple of times, but I have to say it: they're garbage.
@@morphyox6453 What are you talking about, OP room is great!
My condolences on the loss of your grandfather.
My maternal grandfather was serving aboard the Edinburgh as a signalman. A Frenchman, he had escaped to Britain when France surrendered to Germany, and was given an assumed name and signed up with the Royal Navy.
He stayed on in Glasgow after the war, married and raised a family, and here I am.
He never spoke much about his experience on the Edinburgh - having read something about it, I can understand why. It must have affected him deeply.
Thank you for the video.
Thanks for adding to this story of the _HMS Edinburgh_ !
excellent stuff Callum, worked with one of the divers who was on the job and he gave me a a cap off a 6" shell that had come off the wreck. Also told me a yarn about how they super glued the lock on the room in Stephaniturm so the two Soviet inspectors that accompanied them on the voyage couldn't get in to inspect the bars :-)
I was hoping you’d watch this Paul! It was amazing hearing Dougie’s stories. I want to track down more of the divers now!
@@CalumRaasayI can give you another contact and he's only in Kyle ;-)
@@CalumRaasayI've crossed Keith Jessop's path a time or two. Usually following in his footsteps on Islay, Oban and the Mull of Galloway. I say footsteps, I should say 'trail of destruction'
I am at a loss for words. How?? How do you tell real stories THAT good, with THESE visuals, told with SO much heart and THAT kind of research??? HOW?
Thank you! Really appreciate such a kind comment. But the answer is a lot of editing. 😂
Yes, it's a top drawer documentary. Really grateful!
Another great work! I love the way you build your scripts, faithfully describing the battle and HMS Edinburgh final moments, then moving on to Keith Jessup's work and research, the salvage, the aftermath and the "conspiracy theories" surrounding the missing 5 gold bars. The cherry on top was finding one of the original crew!
Sorry to hear about your loss. Your grandpa seems to have been a great guy. May his memory be a blessing.
Thank you! Takes a long bloody time to get these scripts made (I need to get faster at writing them!) but I think it's worth it to try and weave a good story!
Just home from work and now a Calum video. What a treat!
Hope you enjoy!
Yet again another incredibly well researched and produced video that wouldn't look out of place on a respectable televised documentary platform, in fact it puts a lot of them to shame.
As soon as I saw that notification I had to click straight on.
Really appreciate that Kris! Thanks so much for watching
Awesome video. Very well done.
My Grandfather was on the USS Alabama while she was trying to lure out the Tirpitz in Norway. I grew up on his stories of him getting up before sunrise every morning and spending the first few hours of the day breaking ice off the ship so she would be ready to fight at daybreak.
Gave me a lot of respect for the crews of those ships that fought in the war. Every day was a challenge and everything could completely change in a second.
I have watched several of your videos, they're all good. The part at the end of this one about your relationship with your Grandfather was the best part of this excellent release. Thank you.
Thank you, really appreciate that.
My grandfather was from Raasay, and his son ( my father) Kenny Gillies was serving as a radio officer on HMS Edinburgh when it was sunk. The video was most interesting, and it gave me a lot of information that my father never spoke about. This was not unusual, as after the war, apparently, it was common for those serving, not to speak about their experiences.
My father retired to Raasay and was laid to rest in the cemetery above the Old Post Office.
Having spent all my holidays on Raasay, I had the pleasure of knowing your late grandfather. Lovely man.
My gosh what a fascinating story. And its so well told and animated. I was glued to my TV for this one. Really well done, sir.
The Diver who shot to fame by finding and carrying out the 1st Gold Bar with the shouts "I found the Gold" is a very old friend of mine from Rhodesia at that time - its NOW Zimbabwe. John Rossier is his name - as the news article attached shows - John was an excellent soldier in the Rhodesian SAS during our war ( '66-80) , and it goes to show what excellent training was afforded our Full Time Soldiers in the Rhodesian war. Rhodesia was a landlocked country, and yet still produced a diver who could not only withstand the rigours of that Operation?, but also perform above expectation in the open ocean. Salute John.
Always a highlight! The amount of research you have to do every time must be enourmous. Top notch docus 👍
Much appreciated! It’s a long process but it’s worth it in the long run!
Wow! What a huge load of effort clearly went into this tremendous work! So thankful to live in a time where I can learn from these great Calum documentaries! Condolences for the loss of your grandfather, and wishing the best for you and your family.
Thank you! Really appreciate that. Only came to me while I was recording the outro how much I’ll miss telling him about the video!
Calum, your production quality goes up with each video. Good work lad
This is criminally underrated. The story arc of this video is just perfect in my opinion, had me glued all the way through. How does this have so few views?
As always, a very well researched, well told story. Sorry for your loss. Your smile while you talk about your grandfather says it all.
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Excellent work, friend. Your opening sequence had me hooked. I think you did a good job to show the due respect for the bravery and heroism and the full measure of devotion that those sailors gave. Very detailed report. Looking forward to your next.
Thanks again for another fabulous, well put-together, compelling-told story. My condolences on your loss. My grandfather served with the Royal Navy in Murmansk at the end of the war.
Sorry to hear of your grandfather's passing, i sure miss mine, though it's been a long time ago. My grandpa was my best friend, and i hope to see him on the last day. Glad your grandfather watched your channel, and was able to see it grow, and to give you stories that live on.
I enjoy your video's, and how you try to portray thing's as accurately as you can without any dark drama. G-d bless.
Grandpa's are the greatest gift a young man could ever hope for! I'm losing mine quickly and now I must be strong enough without him to make him proud. Hope I can be half the man he is. God bless Grandpa's
Great content! Keep covering these more or less obscure/forgotten/niche topics.
That's the plan! I’ve got a doozy coming up next!
Fascinating, insightful, explained in easily to understand terms, and expertly researched with citations. Oh yeah and a freaking interview with one of the men who was there during the first recovery!
Amazing as always Calum. Can't thank you enough for the hard work and time you put into these "little" UA-cam documentaries.
Thank you so much! It’s fun trying to push yourself to do something different and when I found Dougie I realised I had something unique to bring to the subject!
Great job putting this story together Calum. Well done.
My deepest condolences for the loss of your grandfather. It was wonderful to hear and learn of this story, especially with your familial connection to it!
Thank you! Much appreciated
Generally speaking, a UK court can't enforce its orders outside the UK, so without a separate, successful American suit, there would be no legal (or business) reason to pull the book from American shelves. Assuming it was a civil case, the reasoning would go something like, "Well, the civil standard is only 'balance of probability', not 'preponderance of evidence', so it's only been found _legally_ libellous, not _factually_ so. That's no reason to pull it from the shelves in other markets. We can still make a few bob on it. Heaven forbid we should make a _loss!!"_ 🤦♀
Interesting, I had wondered how it worked regarding that!
brilliant story. well put together.
working at those depths has a lot of challenges.
Not many divers are certified to that depth.
I kept thinking about just how difficult it would be to pull off today, let alone 40 years ago!
@@CalumRaasay for divers working at those depths in todays world, there must be around 50 to 100 divers (and I am being generous) certified to work at those depths.
Yes there are technological advances but the humand body hasnt changed in 40 years. lol
I suspect things would be harder to do today unless you went down a ROV route.
Fascinating story, well told. You did the story and the people involved (in both periods) proud with this. Many thanks.
I first encountered the story of HMS Edinburgh's loss when reading the book 'The Ship That Torpedoed Itself' - the story of HMS Trinidad - back in the 1990s. Quite apart from the savage battle which had taken place, I'll always remember how, upon his arrival back in Murmansk, Rear-Admiral Bonham-Carter hitched another ride home on the 'Crown Colony'- or 'Fiji'-class light cruiser HMS Trinidad.
Trinidad had been under repair at Murmansk following serious (and tragically self-inflicted) torpedo damage in another ferocious close-range battle with German destroyers during convoy PQ-13's run in towards Murmansk. With her hull patched and Bonham-Carter aboard, the cruiser set sail for home... only to be set upon shortly into the journey by enemy air attack. A single Junkers 88 dive-bomber straddled Trinidad with a stick of four 500lb bombs and one of the near-misses landed right alongside the patch, blowing it in.
That was the end for HMS Trinidad; the crew were taken off and she went to the bottom of the Barents Sea.
This was the second cruiser to be sunk underneath Bonham-Carter in as many trips. He was earning a reputation as a Jonah by the time he boarded his *third* cruiser home - but this time they all made it safely.
One of the best gifts my grandfather (who raised me with my Nan as my foster parents) ever gave me was a big book about the Arctic Convoys for Christmas in 1997 - he died the following year, aged just 67.
Your videos get better each time! Fantastic as always! I learned alot!
Thanks as always for watching man! I just bought an old telehander so I need to make 'Calumcreek' style video on it haha!
@@CalumRaasay I’ll watch 😎
Wow, what a deep dive! I absolutely love your work Calum. Been watching your channel on and off since the first antarctic snow cruiser story.
I was also big enough to avoid any “deep dive” puns! Thanks for watching! Appreciate it!
What a great story, thanks for taking the time to make it.
Incredible video, as always. Sorry to hear about your grandfather.
Much appreciated. Was lucky to have had so much time with him!
Condolences to you and your family on the loss of your grandfather.
This was another terrific, interesting, educational and entertaining video, well done. Thanks for all your hard work on these.
Only came to me while I was recording the outro how much I’ll miss telling him about the video!
Touching comment about your grandpa. My heart thought on my kin that've passed, the people they were at the end and before, their anachronisms and quirks. Very nice touch.
I’m very lucky to have had him as long as I did!
Just keep doing what you're doing. Felt like I was 8 years old and how glued I was to the TV when the show was on. You succeed time and time again, do it. Thanks
Thank you! Will do!
nice film Calum. great research and well constructed story.
Fascinating and well researched story, as ever.
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Another great video Calum! It's always a pleasure watching your content. Condolences to you and your family. All the best!
Thank you, Calum as always. RIP to your grandfather and condolences to your family.
Fascinating video, Calum. My grandfather was Bosun on Atheltemplar, one of the tankers in QP11 the convoy that HMS Edinburgh was escorting. He told me how relieved they felt when Edinburgh came up through the convoy ….. just a few hours before she was torpedoed.
Wow, how interesting I read a the atheltemplar listed a few times! It was some horrible irony- so many accounts of the relief seeing the Edinburgh and the tragedy that followed
It must have be grim for all concerned. My grandfather ( who was an islander, from Yell) would have appreciated your video. Sorry for your loss.
From Yell! Amazing. Always wanted to visit. Thanks for sharing.
Great work as always, Calum! You keep posting, we'll keep watching!
Thanks! Will do!
Epic story once again. My condolences for the loss of your grandfather.
A tiny glimpse of Mrs Calum!!! Much appreciated!!! Fabulous video mate. Loving your work!!!
Calum..you are one of the best storytellers on UA-cam
So much to unpack from that video. Such an interesting story about the Edinburgh, Sorry to hear about your Grandfather. I'm sure he knows all about technology up there and will watch, rewatch and watch again all your old and upcoming videos. Another little niche thing I just wanted to say was that I liked the fact that you put the black and white box in the top right before you did your sponsor. A very niche but interesting thing to do! Keep making bangers Calum!
Hahaha glad you noticed the black and white box! My favourite thing to include.
Gotta love the fine details sprinkled in every frame
Haha thats what takes the edits so damn long!
@CalumRaasay much appreciated. More valuable than a textbook, especially considering the interview!
What a fascinating story, and your video is top tier once again. Thank you for providing us with amazing videos Calum.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Saw you last night at Eastwood but didn't want to be that guy asking when new vids are coming.
Congratulations on ¼ million subs
Hahaha I had a lot of people coming up and I kept telling them I hadn’t slept in 24 hours because of this 😂
Fantastic project and work Calum, thank you for your passion and sharing it with us!
Great video mate.
We are at that time where we are loosing so many due to their DOB, they could tell us so much more about our recent history but, thats life.
My condolences to you and your family for your loss. I lost Dad back in 1995 but I still want to tell him stuff and ask him even more.
It's made me appreciate all the more how important it is to talk to people and collect stories!
Great video! It’s amazing you were able to talk to one of the original divers.
The older generation didn't realise that the newspapers printed irrespective of the facts.
Times had changed.
Fabulous film Calum; as far as I am concerned your content is the most interesting on UA-cam. Great work 👍
One has to wonder why the journalist felt the need to embellish an already interesting story with such slanderous lies, the gold recovery was an achievement in itself.
My condolences about your grandfather.
Wharton discusses it in his book, as does Jessop. I think Penrose was a bit annoyed at the lack of access he was getting during the salvage, and that perhaps he also misheard some of the chat and jokes made by the divers and ran with it. But the entire operation was being watched incredibly closely, the idea that anything like he described happening seems pretty unlikely.
There's a British ship with the whole colony's military pay chest that hit a rock and sank around Manhattan island. It is probably 6 to 8 block inland now from reclamation and nobody ever got to it before it was buried besides some scraps of planks to harden the conviction it was still down there and keep people trying for a while.
Impressive documentary from an excellent documentarian! Thank you.
Many thanks!
Actually, part of that gold could be Spanish. During the Civil War the Republican Government evacuated Spanish gold reserves to the Soviet Union not to be seen ever again.
That was the famous tale of the 'Moscow's gold' that vanished during the war and nobody was held responsible for.
An ironic ending for this misadventure: the gold treasured for centuries by Spain, coming from the New World and avoiding mostly (but not limited to) British pirates, is sent to the Soviet Union for safety, who deposits it in a British ship for even more safety in the New World and the British ship gets sunk!
My condolences on your grandfathers passing. I too used to love talking with my “Papa”, that was almost 40 years ago. I still cherish the moments.
Very interesting video, as always.
Cheers
David Anning Loram launched the last torpedo into the Edinburgh, this torpedo eventually scuttled, and sunk the Edinburgh.
Fascinating video about an incident I have never heard or read about, and considering one of my big interests is maritime history that’s saying something. My condolences on the passing of your grandfather.
I wish you my condolences on your grandfather. Even though it's no surprise losing relatives in that age, it still changes a lot, like a part of your history suddenly don't exists anymore. And you move one step up the letter. But life goes on.😊 thanks for yet another great video!
What a lovely comment, much appreciated 🙏
Well said brother 👏
Fantastic video as always Calum. Cheers mate.
Glad you enjoyed it
i really love that you found one of the divers just by accent and asking around the odds of that are astoundingly low
Hahaha I’m not even embellishing, my dad texted one other person and we found him 😂
Regarding the subtitles for Mr. Matheson, He says the guns were pointing "straight at me" rather than, "straight up".
Another amazing story, Calum, thanks for this. Deepest condolences on your grandfather's passing. He sounds like an amazing person.
One heck of a man!
"Five more bars had been found in the bomb room but left by the entranceway. So that they could be recovered should they return in the years to come *remember this"
Gosh I wonder if the gold is still gonna be there when they come back
Hahaha
@@CalumRaasayI'm sorry to hear of your grandfathers passing and am thankful for his part in making you the creator you are. I really appreciate your channel and all the love and time you clearly put into it. I always look forward to the videos you make. ❤
Only a few minutes in, looks amazing. The type of video I’ll watch while cooking and rewind to see while eating
I hope you enjoy!
In the air, on land or in the deep sea - Calum's there telling us the stories of what came about. I like your stuff, man! 🙂
Thanks for commenting as always!
Thanks for this fascinating documentary. I joined Racal-Decca in 1983. Even then we had a few folk who were still basking in the glory of being "the ones" who found HMS Edinburgh. :-)
Condolences for your lost, but how he supported you and the channel was enough for me to like a gentleman I never met. Great video as always.
Thank you. Was lucky to have had him so long!
Really enjoyed your vid and subscribed, my sincerest condolences on your Grandfather's passing, may he rest in peace and rise in glory.
Hi, great video.
IMO a great (fictional) story that conveys the hardships of the article convoys is " HMS Ulysses " by Alastair Maclean who served in the Royal Navy in WWII , including on the arctic convoys.
It is indeed! Great book -probably one of the few about the Convoys (from a fiction point of view)
What a great Friday treat. Thanks!
I remember this story very well, i used to get the Sunday Times Magazine and followed the story, i remember the removal of the gold at such a depth. I remember seeing the basket filled with gold ingots , and other items. I believe that the Royal navy along with any person that had served on those cruel voyages , was not happy with the ship which was classed as a War grave being disturbed for the price of gold. Many people would class this as a violation,
Yes, that was what made the salvage controversial at the time. It was the reason they were only allowed to cut into the hull and not to use any explosives. As Dougie said they were very respectful and in later news reports I believe many of the survivors felt they had done a good job, especially after talking to many of the divers involved.
I will say, and this is something some can correct me on, I don't believe the Edinburgh (or any ship at that time) was an "Official War Grave". I said that in the video but I can't find a single piece of legislation before the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986 that made any wreck an "Official War Grave". Again, happy to be corrected it was just something I realised as I got to the end of the edit.
3/7/24..Calum..Hello from New Orleans, La area 🇺🇸. Much appreciate your incredable research & time spent on this subject..I was USAF in mid 1970's ( Berlin Tempelhof) so have no military or career experiences with Navy or war time horrors as your UK Navy men who suffered the ultimate price for serving to protect their country. Prayers, very late to all their families. Also condolences to you for loss of your Grandfather. I can feel that you were very close to him & he to you! That is wonderful family bonds, glad you mentioned this.
Your video covered lots of detail, technology issues, professional deep water hazardous diving conditions, successful recovery of ..what 90 % of Gold bars...that was a fantastic effort & great accomplishment! Great historic information touching all 3 of Allies (UK, USA & Russia). Glad all divers were ok & have tremendous experience on their Resume's. Also were the technicians involved with very important details supporting the divers. Ok, just wanted to say 'well done' on your interest, in-depth research, your time & video expertise in assembling the many details to make & present this information to all we YT viewers. Yhx again, much enjoyed your historic & educational presentation. Am sure your Grandfather (& all other family) are very pleased with all your efforts in this endeavor. Stay safe & carry on!👍👍🍺😊
The visuals are fantastic!
A lesser known story overseas, but absolutely fascinating to watch and learn about! Well done, like all your astonishing work! My condolences on the loss of your Grand dad.
Wow, your production has Improved 10fold my man,
This is great Documentary as well
Much appreciated!
Hello Calum, another excellent and well researched video as we've come to expect. How mean the Bank of England are! I can't wait for the next video. May your Grandfather rest in peace.
As always, fantastic research and presentation. Tack
Your videos are so good! They deserve 10 times the amount of views they get!!
Just wow, this is amazing stuff Calum! From the depths of the research (pun intended) to the final cut, just 110% top class work, keep it up!!!!
Awesome, thank you!
I love that you got an interview with one of the divers
Best episode yet... and you've had some gooders, Calum... appreciated the personal touch at the end, sir... 👊🇨🇦🙂
Sorry for the loss of your Grand Pa, but you'll have memories to share with your children, and grandchildren that will keep his memory alive for years to come.
As always young man you've set another high bench mark for your next video to have to live up to, but I don't think you'll have a problem doing that.
You seem to improve with each new video, and in saying that, your first was better than those of some who had more money, and staff than you by a large percentage.
Can't wait for the next one to come across notifying me that it's once again time for a big cup of coffee, but see what you've got for us all to see.
Take care, and be well
Thank you! Much appreciated. Was lucky to have my ol' seanair as long as I did. Thanks for the kind comments on the videos! I like to feel I learn a new trick or editing technique with each one. Though I'd like to try and make some shorter videos some time! Lot of work for these 30 minute+ behemoths!
@@CalumRaasay Yes I'm sure they are, but from the viewers point of view, you make it truly worth every minute of video you create for everyone to see.
The great thing about this format, is they'll be around far into the future, which allows even more people to learn from your efforts.
Hopefully that helps you continue with your future projects.
Regardless, the quality is there, and whether they're 15 minutes, or 2 and half hours.
I'm positive that you will always have plenty who will be glued in front of whatever device they're using to watch your videos.
Have a Great Day, and thank you for taking the time to respond, as well as making the videos you sp kindly share with the world.
Sorry to hear about your loss
Much appreciated!
I remember the dive happening and Keith Jessops drive to make it so Calum. Fascination story, really well told and I think ( but will stand correction) Alistair McLean used the back story of Edinburgh for "HMS Ulysses", his first novel. Thanks for this and for the massive effort you've put in
Great video Calum! Sorry to hear about your Papa (Lowland Scots variation), I've no doubt the encouragement he gave you, will carry on into the future.
Great video as always
Wow! This was a great documentary. Up to the Calum standards! Well done!
Fantastic video and footage of the gold recovery thank you 🏴👍🏻
I remember watching the documentary on this salvage operation on PBS here in the US when I was 9. It fascinated me with all the hard hat diving and heavy engineering needed. Probably had a part in my becoming an engineer later in life. In '01, I was able to tour HMS Belfast in London. Very interesting to me to be on board the sister ship of Edinburgh.
I've been to the Belfast once when I was very young, now I'm desperate to go back!
Popping in to say that UA-cam just showed me this video 10+ days after posting. Noticed the count is lower. Might be the same for others. Excellent watch as usual, Calum!
Thank you! UA-cam is a funny beast. But It's a marathon not a sprint!
Brillliant story telling, many thanks.
A great video, very well executed, and a colorful topic.
Many thanks for that video Callum, found it really interesting. It clears up something that has kinda bothered me for years, I was working in Peterhead when the “Stephaniturm”offloaded the Uk’s share of the gold, security was pretty tight, i believe she was berthed at the end of the North Breakwater, we were not allowed anywhere near the vessel until well after it had discharged its cargo.
Happen to be in the same drinking establishment as some of the crew who were celebrating a successful job, i believe were a couple of the divers in the group, talk was of the excitement of finding the gold, the work conditions and how difficult it was to access the gold. There was no mention of human remains being found or tampered with.
Later on i was surprised to hear about these allegations, found it hard to believe actually.
After 40 yrs I was pleased to hear you report that these allegations were proven false.
Btw, the recovery vessel was Stephaniturm, think you pronounced it slightly differently, not that it matters.
Thank you again for an amazing video.
this video cured my hangover
Haha glad to hear it!