Recall Notice: Do Not Attempt To Load Or Fire
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- I have thoroughly enjoyed my Tisas 1911s, but it seems as though there is a recall.
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Wow you’ve been losing some weight man! Good on you
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Was looking at the a1 model. It’s not listed as one of the guns under the recall- I’m assuming the a1 then is fine?
Have to say, good on them for being proactive and not waiting to see if someone actually gets hurt (and then placing all blame on the user).
Uh...huh...has nothing to do with potential lawsuits it's all about "blaming the user" because that works so well with firearms...
@buckhorncortez sure is a weird way of saying "like Sig does" but you do you, bud.
Or they were worried that screwing up a pistol that everyone else has been making safely for a hundred years might ruin their credibility as an arms maker.
Lots of respect for tisas on this situation, i really want that 10mm now
gotta make sure we keep ya'll happy and safe.
I’m a fan of the 3-tone “Duty Enhanced” version.
@@sdsimportscriinge
@@sdsimports much respect to you guys keep fighting the good fight
The tisas D10 10mm is much better. Fit and finish are perfect
My Norinco had the same issue, it's a 5-minute fix for a competent gunsmith. Big thanks for the community service!
A very classy way to conduct business.
Agreed.
A classier way would be to not manufacture junk.
@@dontblameme6328ill assume you never make mistakes with anything you do then🧐
Excellent informative video thank you for spreading the word. Tisas so far (in my experience) has been an excellent company and I have tons of respect for the way they are handling this situation. I bought one of their 1911's and couldn't be happier even to the point of giving them higher praise than many other 1911's that are of a higher price range.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much, for making us all aware of this problem!!!
Happy to help!
Much respect to Tisas for the preemptive notice!
That’s a very respectable way to conduct this recall, props to them!
Never a moments problem out of my stainless duty. Well fitted runs anything without a hiccup.
Thanks, mine wasn't affected but now you have me thinking about that 10mm. Tisas customer service might be as good as their product and I like the sound of that.
Good call!
I have a pair of Tisas 1911's, one in .45 and one in 10mm, but neither is any of these specific models. Nice to see Tisas handling the situation well.
I'm really happy you decided to post this video. The Nightstalker 10mm was going to join my collection tomorrow. Now I can give it couple more months to work that bug out and avoid that headache. Good looking out brother. Keep doing what you're doing.
Glad I could help!
I have been visting 1911 forums alot about this issue when it does happen (which is rare) usually involves bad a sear spring or a bad disconnector
Much appreciated for making this more known. My buddy had just got a Raider about a month ago and was grateful to have this video passed along to em.
Glad to hear it!
I have a Night stalker and this is exactly what happened to me, firing a round unexpectedly. I will definitely be contacting them. I had no idea how it happened. Finger was definitely NOT on the trigger.
Probably a mismatch between the sear angles and hammer. I built a 1911 on a para P14 frame, had the same issue with the sear on my build. Ordered a new sear from Brownells and it cured the issue. Always test with a dummy round. I bored out a solid copper projectile and seat this with a primer. This will tell you is there is an issue with the disconnect or or geometry of the sear and associated parts. BTW, that hole should be at least 1/8 inch in diameter to allow the primer gasses to pass without creating a squib round.
@@Subgunman Neat idea. Couldn't you use a blank too?
@@johndoe7270 possible however one needs to chamber the round from the magazine while holding down the trigger (pointed in a safe direction) to see if the round will discharge. We know that releasing the trigger should leave the firearm ready to fire when the trigger is released. One needs to try firing the blank while not depressing the grip safety as well. It should not fire. Same should be done with the safety lever engaged, it should not fire. When you release the safety and grip the pistol properly ( depressing the grip safety as well) the hammer should fall striking the primer at this point only. At this point it would be wise to have a second blank round in the mag and quickly rack the slide while all along holding the trigger down, it should not fire and should not fire when you release the trigger to reset the firing cycle.
@@Subgunman I believe an improperly adjusted leaf spring can also cause the same problem. I believe it may even be a more common cause of this malfunction.
Hammer followed the slide forward and fired a round.. This is the problem of certain range of serial numbers that are not functioning correctly.
Now IF SIG could be like Tisas and make their customers aware that there may be a problem instead of denying one exists. Tisas cares about their customers and SIG could learn from this and stop using customers as beta testers.
Hats off to the video and getting the word out!
Thanks a bunch and thanks for watching!
Hammer follow is definitive and repeatable if you have ever had it. Sig magic shoot by itself isn’t. “My unholstered gun went off in my purse” isn’t exactly a repeatable malfunction.
@@kevinallies1014 Sig Cross rifle. Big issues with that. Sig denied issues while publicly recalling all of them. Just Sig things. And the original 320's had issues with drops, the fixed models are fine though. Even the OG military ones had that issue fixed while the civ ones were left alone. Sig doesn't like the people.
@@kevinallies1014it isn’t just upholstered guns in purses, they have gone off fully holstered on military and police as well as civilians. If it was just incompetence other companies would be included. Only Sig has this problem.
@@JohnAvillaHerpetoculturalther companies also have heavier triggers or trigger safeties also like fn, smith, or glock
Every 1911 made during WW1 and WW2 had this possible defect. The Army had a procedure to use in loading the pistol on the firing line. A few even went full auto on the firing line at pistol matches! Ruger 22 pistols were used for annual qualifications in my infantry company!
😂you must be army 😂
Thank you for bringing this recall to our attention, and for showing us your collection.
You bet!
Been looking at Tisas lately. Good of them to start a preemptive recall. That's real customer service.
They sure are handling this differently than Sig does with their handguns 🤣
Ugggh. Sig... Not a fan.
Guns don't kill people....Sig "Hold my sere and watch this"😂
Sig says bullets kill people not our guns... Our guns self fire.... Like for any reason.@@UncleDanBand64
Nope.
Maybe because Sig actually tests their stuff and didn't believe individual results contrary to their testing results?
Don't hate on manufacturers just because they don't sell you $300 pistols.
Show you can afford real options, then maybe we'll listen.
If your favorite firearm is a trailer park special, you have zero credibility
@JD-tn5lz You might want to do a little studying on how the P320 works. I hate to be the one to tell you but, it is an unsafe design.
Thanks Pat. I got a tank commander based your review and I really like it.
Great to hear!
Toss a wilson combat or atlas sear spring in call it a day. The center spring on the sear spring controls the trigger tension going forward. Hammer fallow is from that. Bend it forward slightly if you experience Hammer follow. I have all 3 of the recall guns. None have original sear springs.
You have to have correct tuning between the Sear leg and the Disconnector leg of the sear spring. If they are misaligned with too much pressure on the Sear leg and/or not enough pressure on the Disconnector leg you will get hammer follow. It usually loses half cock before it actually hammer follows.
Many thanks! I’ve been mulling over which brand of 1911 I want. I was leaning towards Kimber, but I think you changed my mind.
Glad I could help!
This is LD's husband Bob. I recently bought a Tisas Tank Commander, and I love it! Shoots great, works perfect, and didn't break the bank. Thank you for this video. I subscribed.
Great to hear!
I just bought a tisas and didnt see or hear about the recall so i greatly apreciate you incorporating it in your video.
Thank you for letting me know about the recall I don’t think mine is on the recall list but I appreciate you very much thank you again have a great day
Colt,1911, series 80......running great for years...
Thanks for the video. Love Tisas pistols.
I dig them!
Thank you for sharing. I don't own a Tisas but was considering getting one. May wait a bit to do so.
Right on!
Pat. Another good video. Also, good information for the folks with those guns. Nice looking guns! Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks for the heads up. I own a couple of Tisas models and I’ll be checking them out.
Sadly...no Tisas pistol here as of yet, but hopefully this year. Good on them for taking care of business. Thanks Pat for helping to spread the word!
You're gonna need a Tisas!
@@PatRMG I do. Might just grab one of their 1911A1 Army version that PSA runs deals on. Really love that stainless one you've got...that thing's sexy!
A big salute for posting this!! My Tisas (B45R) is not included, but I do not do social media & would not have known.. Thanks again!!
Happy to help!
thanks for the information. i love 1911’s
You bet!
A few months ago I bought a rock island armory double stack tactical 10mm 1911. I absolutely love it but.... The factory grips were broken out of the box and rock island did send me a broken new pair. They shipped them in an envelope. No packing. I might add that the grips are extremely thin because the grip is so fat due to it being double stacked. After receiving the broken new grips I emailed them and told them the grips were damaged due to piss pore packing and I never heard from them again. GOOD customer service and warranty work is hard to come by these days. Other than that I absolutely love the 10mm 1911. The tolerances are super tight and it runs smooth as butter!!!! And it's a tac driver!!! It's big and heavy but I carry it everyday!!!
i recommend getting hogue grips for the 1911 para ordinance. i have the same gun you do, and while my grips were fine, the upgrade after some trimming to make it fit makes a huge difference and well worth it
@@nickjohnson8780 I ordered a beautiful pair of grips from Browne works. And they were a absolutely perfect fit and they look great on the gun. I got the red heart wood. Couldn't be happier!!! I would check them out they have a lot of options for the rock island armory ultra tac 10 mm. They even have REAL rattle snake skin grips. They are pricey about 160 ish if I remember correctly. I am absolutely ordering a pair when I have the extra cash.
My first pistol was a tisas 1911 A1 GI model. I put a few wilson combat parts in to it and a set of cherry wood grips and not only is it nice looking, it runs flawless. Genuinely a pleasure to shoot. Tisas knows how to make good firearms.
Something to consider when carrying a pistol for protection. If you use your weapon in self-defense the police are going to take it at least for a while. It's probably not going to look the same when you get it back, if you get it back. Why carry a $1500.00 pistol when a $ 400 pistol will do. If you don't get it back you're not out a whole lot.
Thanks for the info. I love my Tisas too!
Thanks for the heads up. 👍
No problem 👍
Thanks for the info, and you have me interested in a Tank Commander after your original video.
Thanks. My two are not affected but I appreciate the info! They really are nice handguns.
Yeehaw!
Hey Pat you had me at 1911, been carrying one off and on since my first Commission in 1975. Changed work locations and had carry that agency's gun. But in each Office I got to use my 1911 for Off Duty. Well I'm Retired now so I usually carry a smaller gun, yep you guessed right if you guessed a 1911 Colt Compact 45acp.
I have the Stingray Carry and the identical steel framed Devilray and really like them both.
Sent mine in for this issue mid december before the recall dropped. It's fixed, now to shoot it. Found the problem before I even got to shoot it. They were quick with turnaround. Had my 1911 back in 3 weeks.
I'm glad mine aren't in this group! Thx for letting us know.
Great to hear about their recall, hadn’t heard about it anywhere else. I have 4 of them and haven’t had any problems but don’t have the models on the list. Maybe because I purchased mine years ago. Great guns at a great price.
Thank you for the info.
Thanks for the information!
You bet!
Thanks for getting the safety information out!
Goos job protecting the community
You bet!
Started running 1911s since 1977. Still carry one today. Lately, the G-19x is becoming my battle dump truck. No hands on with the Tisas, so I’m not yet gained any data on this brand. However, the SPT Tee-shirt you are wearing, got some round counts with the Hu-Du, and that’s on essential piece of gear.
Thanks for the video, 👍
Semper Fi,,,
Thanks for sharing this information much appreciated ❤❤❤
Glad it was helpful!
We love you too Pat.
Have a great day!
The SS 45 Match is on the list dude!
Yeehaw!
I possibly almost bought one of these recalled models too, because the one I wanted wasn’t in stock. I’m happy that I actually exercised patience this time. 😊
Right on!
*Thank you, for making us aware of a TISAS SAFETY RECALL. My hunch is M.I.M. Metal Injected Molding moving parts are at the core of the concern. Someone recently claimed that TISAS are returning to the superior quality of forged parts.*
Thank you for the information
THANKS! I was going to buy the 10mm this weekend. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.😉
True be told I had never heard of Tisas until your video: these are very budget friendly pistols, and they look really well made and quite stylist as well. I am looking forward to purchasing one if I can (being from California even buying a water gun is and issue 🤔😂). Thank you for the video.
Glad you posted this, planning on getting a 10mm
Thanks for the heads up. I have a 9mm Stingray and I love it. Nothing on the recall though (YAY!)
Thanks for the info! I just purchased my first Tisas, a service special 45 which I feel like I stole at $319 w/free shipping. My only other 1911 is an old, (2008ish) Para-Ordinance SSP which has been perfect, and like an old dependable friend. I took them both to the range for comparison when I received the Tisas, and was amazed at how well the Tisas performed compared to the Para which was proven with at least 2k rounds. Happy mines not recalled.
Great information, hadn't seen this anywhere else. Nice guns also.
Thank you for sharing
You bet!
Hey brother thank you probably saved my life
Thanks for watching!
Good update brother 👍
Thanks 👍
@PatRMG You're welcome brother
Love the Raider. Appreciate the heads up. Hope the turn around time isn’t too long.
Good looking out on your part and theirs. I will definitely be looking at their offerings soon just for the proactive stance they took here.
Right on!
Thanks for the info Brotha! I just order the Tisas raider 45 two days ago! It should be here in the morning, but Ig I will ship it right back to Tisas for safety precautions! It suck, but better to be safe than sorry! God put this video in front of me for a reason!
I like the way they're handling this. That being said, I'm glad the D10 I just picked up is not on the list.
I like my Stingray, I just wish it had at least front checkering…..it’s a little slick there. Btw, their cases feel like you could throw them out of a moving car and your pistol wouldn’t have a scratch on it.
I sent my Tisas in for the recall, I also had an issue with nonengagement of the thumb safety. I swear, although it was new, they replaced most of the gun. serious customer service! Big props to Tisas. Because of the safety work, which involved cutting the slide, it took 60 days.
TISA and SDS are top both excellent quality firearms and very reputable companies.
Great info great review- Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Great video new sub🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸love the 1911 platform been looking at the Tisas line up and reviews they're pretty impressive I think I'm going to join in on the fun
I'm glad you brought this to my attention. I have not had any problems with my Raider, but i am going to send it in anyway at your suggestion. I am personally impressed with Tisas and SDS Imports as a company in that they are willing to make others aware of a potential problem AND foot the bill for the trip. It shows they are a stand up company.
Also, I'm one of the dummies who did the form twice. I didn't see the email right away so i sent it again. I guess I'll just include the extra in the box and tell them to shred it.
Thanks for posting this. I just got the 9mm Tanker a couple of weeks ago so I'm lucky in that it is not on the list. Like you I really like that little gun. I posted my video of it just last week. The thing shoots like a dream. I've since added some orange paint to the front sight as the black was just too hard for me to pick up. Anyway, thanks again for the info. It was very helpful.
Thanks for watching!
This ist he first time im seeing one of your videos and after seeing your content im subscribing.
Possible sear spring adjustment. Tisas was quick in ordering a recall. Kudos to Tisas.
I wonder which part they suspect is the culprit? Hammer maybe or the sear? Possibly the disconnector or the sear spring? I am curious to find out once people start getting theirs fixed if it will say what they replaced.
I am not sure.
I have the Tank Commander in .45. It really is a great pistol!
Pretty good thing,bringing this to people attention. Tisas is being cool about it too. I don’t have a 1911 yet. I wanted to get as close to a WW II GI type for my first. Was looking at a Garrison & a Tisas .both are pretty good looking guns. Was Leaning toward the Garrison trying to figure out the difference in 70 & 80 series 1911s and doing some homework in general …About the time I thought I had it figured out,the Garrison model id been looking at got pulled. Something about they figured they were selling it for to good of a value ,it disappeared for a while and then they marked it way up. Wish I had a model number to give you. It was very close in markings to the ones American Soldiers had in the war if im remembering correctly. Saw one locally but didn’t hold it.
I bought the Tank Commander and the full size Standard 1911. I love them both. Tisas and Rock Island Armory are the best bang for the buck out there.
Thanks for putting this video out Pat! I was not aware of the recall. Luckily I have a 9mm Stingray that is not affected. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Important lesson in Engineering.
One of the few products exclusively manufactured in the US.
I'm an S&W M&P Compaq guy. Models prior to mine had a recall as well. Theirs was on drop.
I was just watching Revolutionary War and Washington lost a few battles before he started winning.
Never heard of Tisas but good show.
There's a quite a few out there having problems.
How do we deal with Failure.
(ya know some people actually study failure - Failure Analysis ! lmao)
I was quite surprised about the Sig problems and now some 10 mm Glocks according to Chucke Outdoor as well.
got ya a sub for havin' to read my blabbing
Welcome to the channel!
just to let everyone know if you want a full guide rod tisas does not use a standard spring you have to get one from wolff springs great gun have the tanker model with the stainless steel barrel enjoy
I don't have any of these pistols but appreciate the info. Stay safe.
You win a big virtual hug!
Props for passing this along!
Thanks for watching!
I have a Tisas carry and it’s TRAAAASH.
Seeing this, I’ll attempt to contact them again to get a fix. Companies hate class action lawsuits in the USA. Because they either lose I’m court or settle out of court.
Thank you pat. You gave me leverage in something Tisas and the importer have refused to acknowledge for 4 years.
Have you reached out before? Be courteous and we'll work with you.
Why is it trash? I have the Service model which I haven’t fired yet. Just curious about your experience.
It is not trash.. Good guns for the price!@@frederickpare5966
Direct reply right here in the comment section!
How is it trash? As of February 2023, all tisas are mil spec. Your extractor needs to be adjusted for failure to feed or eject.
The customer service email then "calling to see if you got my email" is too real.
I have no clue why it makes my left eye twitch.
That's why automated 'we received your message, this is your ticket number' mails exist.
@@onpsxmember But, when the phone ring, you answer it. So, you end up going "Oh, what's your name? Yes, I'm typing a response to you right now"
Great video!!!
Glad you liked it!
Their 1911 A1 Tank Commander ROCKS!
Good on Tisas. I love a company that can put out a decent quality product without charging an arm and a leg and also stands behind it. I will certainly give them a shot when the next purchase opportunity comes around.
I just bought the night stalker 45acp. It's amazing
If the problem is hammer following, can’t we just test for this - drop the slide on empty 10 times to see if the sear engagement is adequate and leaf spring engagement is adequate. If it doesn’t follow then what’s the problem?
Thank you..
Welcome!
Thanks
No problem!
Well, I’ve been looking for a 1911A1 in 45 to replace my Colt Custom Shop that I lost. I like this company’s business ethics. We’ll see but looking good so far!
I like Tisas. I have fired several of them. I have no complaints. I was looking at the Raider but went with the US Army instead since that is where I served. Compares favorably with Springfield Mil-Spec.
Yeehaw!
As a Texan, I really want the Volunteer model with Davy Crockett's famous quote on the slide.
"Please don't shoot me"?
I don't think you can ask much more than that from a company. Sounds like they are being proactive. And trying to make it easy and cost free for the customer to get their gun upgraded and inspected.
Much agreed.