Alfa Romeo's Forgotten BMW Rival - 1984 Giulietta 2.0L 116

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Another car made by Alfa which was very flawed.. The 116 series Giulietta made from 1977-1984 looked strange and the quality was below par but can the famous Alfa Romeo handling save it as a classic car?
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  • @yossarian6799
    @yossarian6799 11 місяців тому +5

    South Africa latched on to that car like sunshine and braaivleis. They were everywhere in the 80s. Despite being a sporting saloon, it was named "Tow Car of the Year" several times in several publications.

  • @thetwistedsock3253
    @thetwistedsock3253 Рік тому +23

    Having the head lining the same fabric as the seats looks really nice.

  • @Eduardolo1964
    @Eduardolo1964 Рік тому +34

    My brother-in-law had the 1.8 L and that's how fondly I remember this extraordinary quirky Alfa. A lot of things were done well and some things are strange from today's point of view, but back then it really was the sporty family saloon and alternative to the BMW 3 series. Super car review and an extremely beautiful car.

    • @johnmoruzzi7236
      @johnmoruzzi7236 Рік тому +2

      Back then a 1.8 was the sweet spot for a performance 4 cylinder…. Fiat and others introduced balancer shafts onto their 2-litres (Tipo Sedicivalvole) and they would rev much smoother.

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick2150 Рік тому +69

    What a great looking car! I love boxier looking car's over the jelly mold stuff that's pumped out these days..... cracking stuff as always Jack 😉

    • @puebespuebes8589
      @puebespuebes8589 Рік тому +1

      They look raw, modern and practical !
      They also look quite thin compared to modern fat jelly car.

  • @MLC...
    @MLC... Рік тому +42

    Oh my! I love a Giulietta. I own a dark Grey 1985 2.0, naturally 😍 This silver car is beautiful! Lovely interior. In my opinion the build quality may not be up to BMW or Mercedes standard, but it is surely better than the majority of cars of the era. I have had quite a few of these and they have been superb. And unlike BMW or Mercedes, these dashboards do not tend to crack, not even here in South Africa. By the way these really benefit from a set of Bilstein B6 dampers.

    • @MarkoVukovic0
      @MarkoVukovic0 Рік тому +6

      Howzit man! I had an '84 champagne colour 2.0. I really loved that car. The only reason I don't have it any more is because some chop in a BMW rear-ended me, car was totalled.

    • @155stw
      @155stw Рік тому +5

      @@MarkoVukovic0 my dad had silver grey 84 like this. The car was so unique in the 80's/ Absolutely blew the E21 and E30s when it came to design. The only thing "unique" for BMW was the E30 320i 323i JPS for the south east Asian and Aussie markets...maybe the Serf Efrican market had the JPS E30s? But the Giulietta was so cool design wise.

    • @MLC...
      @MLC... Рік тому +3

      Howzit Marco. Really sad when that happened. At around 2001 we had 3 Giuliettas at the same time! The most beautiful was a red 1.8 1984 that also got heavily rear-ended at a traffic light in Pretoria. That car was like new, I am still crying over 20 years later.

    • @MLC...
      @MLC... Рік тому +1

      The South African market had homologation special e30's. A 333i in 1986/7, an M30 engined Alpina basically and in 1990/1 325is that was basically 2.7 litre Alpinas with M3 suspension. The evolution version was further developed to make 155 kw.

    • @MarkoVukovic0
      @MarkoVukovic0 Рік тому +1

      @@MLC... that is very sad. Very glad you're still enjoying your '85, just don't see them on the road any more.

  • @QuicknStraight
    @QuicknStraight Рік тому +9

    Reminds of the old Alfa 75 3.0 V6 I had back in the early 90s. Wonderful car. Almost impossible to find a good one these days. It doesn't matter than the BMWs were better made, etc., You have a love affair with an Alfa Romeo.

  • @tvaatakt1
    @tvaatakt1 Рік тому +18

    Possibly the coolest Alfa ever built. My dad bough a brand new 1984 in 2.0 QV trim, identical to the one driven here but with steel wheels. Ive driven a few of these more recently and the way they cling to the asphalt despite having very soft suspension, is incredible.

  • @ezioauditore1522
    @ezioauditore1522 11 місяців тому +2

    At that time, sharped lines were in fashion. I bought one in 1981 dark brown color, it was an i.6 litre. The versions available at that years were: 1.3, 1.6 and 1.8. I opted for the middle path. I kept it for 10 years and didn't have any problems with rust. I have traveled in snow many times and by using caution I have always arrived at my destination even without winter tyres. Sometimes I left home in good weather and found snow in the Apennines. It was a car that responded excellently to commands and took you where you wanted without surprises or sudden strange behavior. Then for work reasons, having to travel many kilometers, i had five years later an LPG system installed to save on fuel costs. I had no problems with the valves and seats as the sodium cooled valves were already fitted as standard. I'm nostalgic for those times and i still miss it.

  • @benzinapaul7416
    @benzinapaul7416 Рік тому +13

    The 75 used Giulietta doors and the Ferrari Mondial 8, QV and 3.2 shared the central interior air vents!

  • @stevenfernando1842
    @stevenfernando1842 Рік тому +11

    I’ve got a Alfetta GTV 2.0 and I think it’s one of the best handling cars at any price.

    • @paulgulliver659
      @paulgulliver659 Рік тому +2

      Couldn't agree more, I have a 1979 GTV with a 75 twin spark engine & transaxle & GTV 6 brakes and some suspension upgrades. Great touring car and keeps a lot of 911's honest on track days

  • @dough740
    @dough740 Рік тому +9

    I heard a tale that when the first of them arrived at Fishers (dealer in Edinburgh), the style was such a surprise that they decided to reverse park them - "perhaps the customers won't notice the tail then"

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant!!!

    • @dontpanicblink
      @dontpanicblink Рік тому +2

      i remember fishers, would put up pictures of the car they had for sale in the window

    • @dough740
      @dough740 Рік тому +1

      @@dontpanicblink The workshops were in mews at Canning Street Lane, with showroom on Angle Park Terrace (next to Diggers). Wander along the lane to see various Alfas sticking out of a row of garages - very 1930s

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 Рік тому +7

    I loved these back when they were new - used to spend many hours pouring over them in a local dealer. A very unusual looking car with the pronounced wedge shape. The central section of the car made it into the later 75 too. Not the finest Alfa, but a very interesting one. And it sounds simply wonderful with lovely twin cam snarl!

  • @Stainless316L
    @Stainless316L Рік тому +3

    The Inboard rear brakes wasn't easy to change

  • @backyardprojects9945
    @backyardprojects9945 Рік тому +3

    I have an 84 model here in Australia and have owned it since 2004. In the next year or so, I plan to restore it and have a full body respray. As a side note, a friend has owned two, a Red one in the UK and Brown one here in Melbourne. In 1994 we drove it from Melbourne to Adelaide and then on to Coober Pedy (opal town) for an overnight stay in a dug out motel, and finally on to Uluru (Ayre's Rock). In about 38*C it gave up about 2 hours from the rock. We put it down to fuel vapourisration, so after about 45 minutes with the bonnet up, it restarted and we made it to the camp site. On the return journey we co drove it for 13 hours straight from Uluru to Adelaide. Great little car.

    • @WazzaG076
      @WazzaG076 Рік тому +2

      I sold my 1984 2L in 2008 here in Sydney after 24 years to an “enthusiast” in Brisbane. I had sever health issues.
      A little while later a Queensland dealer contacted me from finding the original receipt I had included with all invoices.
      He sent me photos and was asking a ridiculous price as has a full engine rebuild. It had blue non original exhaust manifold and apparently had been severely mistreated as was perfect when it left me.
      Lost track of it. It was red and never had a spot of rust except the painted black window sills. Would love to find it.

    • @MORAMAX
      @MORAMAX 9 місяців тому

      That brown color you say I think is the "forest lights"( luci di bosco ) a metallic brown, splendid... my father here in Italy was about to take it like this, then we took the more traditional metallic silver

  • @djpierre4613
    @djpierre4613 Рік тому +18

    E21 was in fact the first 3-series! 320 model came with both 4 and 6 cylinders in the '70's

    • @katywalker8322
      @katywalker8322 Рік тому +2

      My parents had a 4 cylinder E21 320. It replaced an Alfasud. My fathers comment recently was the bmw was the least reliable car they ever owned!

    • @e28forever30
      @e28forever30 Рік тому

      They first came with the M10 4 cylinder, this was replaced with the M20 6-cylinder later on.

    • @1240enzo
      @1240enzo Рік тому +1

      ⁠Exactly and so you had the 320 and the 323. My ex had a E21 323 and it was ok, but the E36 318IS sedan which she later bought ran rings around the E29. The issue with the Giulietta wasn’t so much that it was Alfetta based but rather simply that it was a shrunk Alfetta. I had both a series 1 Alfetta sedan and GT back in the day and from a driving perspective they were superior to the E29 in so many ways (well asides the gearbox.

  • @DouweBuruma
    @DouweBuruma Рік тому +8

    Nice! I can’t wait for you to got your hands on an Alfa 90 Quadrifoglio Oro, if there is any in England.

  • @ca9968
    @ca9968 Рік тому +5

    Man, this brings back some memories, these were very popular in South Africa in the 80`s and early 90`s...a good friend of mine`s dad had one, he sold it and instantly regretted it....a few years later he saw it advertised up for sale again and bought it...again...he then spent a year restoring it, as far as I know he still has it...
    He also has a late 60`s vintage Alfa Spider and his daily was a Mito...

  • @andymacgregor809
    @andymacgregor809 Рік тому +109

    What’s not to love about an old Alfa ?

    • @DaleSteel
      @DaleSteel Рік тому +4

      Nothing

    • @resnonverba137
      @resnonverba137 Рік тому +27

      Rust and lack of reliability to name but two.

    • @andymacgregor809
      @andymacgregor809 Рік тому +16

      @@resnonverba137 that’s what they call “character “ 😉

    • @ItsTheNada
      @ItsTheNada Рік тому +1

      @@andymacgregor809Exactly

    • @markprendergast1718
      @markprendergast1718 Рік тому +5

      Nothing and everything they have my heart but not my head would I have 1 in a blink of n eye

  • @canucklehead0
    @canucklehead0 Рік тому +9

    Such a lovely little Alfa!!! I remember as a brash 20 yr old looking for my first new car, I had looked at the 3.0l V6 Alfa Romeo 75 which I must say I really loved, for all the reasons you mentioned plus that simply Amazing V6! In the mix I also looked at the Nissan 300ZX (the early one, not the one everyone wants now), the Maserati BiTurbo, again which I thought was lovely but a bit of a dog in the corners with the engine so far forward. But it was the Japanese that finally got me, with them clearing old stock of the wedge shaped 1985 Celica Supra which I bought for a song and loved that car in every measurable way, it handled well, it went like stink (for the mid 80's) and was pretty comfy on extended trips, in fact many years later in the mid 2000's we were looking for a second car and I found an 83 Cressida that had that lovely inline 6 and the underpinnings of the supra as well and we kept that car until 2016 when I had my right leg amputated (long story). Looking back I don't regret buying the Toyota, but I do wish my older self would have been there to nudge me into the Alfa, just that magical V6 alone should have been enough, let alone the "tuff" Boy Racer looks and Rosa Red Paint Job with a tan interior. If I could go back I think I would have gone with the 75 and would have loved it, ah the difference a few decades makes. Thanks for the excellent review, Jack! Should you happen upon a Celica Supra or the 86 and up Mk 3 Supra (my all time favourite Supra) I would love to see and hear your thoughts on them. Cheers - Dave

    • @damienmills293
      @damienmills293 Рік тому +1

      Dave, that Supra was a gem. All angles and aggression. There was nothing else like it. Go find an Auto Alfa 75. They exist.

    • @canucklehead0
      @canucklehead0 Рік тому

      @@damienmills293 If I can find a decent one, I'm in!!

  • @varmastiko2908
    @varmastiko2908 Рік тому +21

    The gear selector functions via a rod + linkage system, not cable. The bushings can wear down which makes the shift wonky. When working as it should it's just fine but the throws are long as you'd expect with such a system.

    • @mikelowe3754
      @mikelowe3754 Рік тому +1

      I've made some minor modifications to the linkage in mine to shorten the throw by about 25 percent. I'm much happier with it.

    • @SuperLuckyCat7
      @SuperLuckyCat7 Рік тому

      Otherwise; which also applies to older BMWs, simply bring out Yr ol' anglegrinder and shorten the Gear Lever - poor mans trick-o'-the-trade 😉🙃🙂

  • @garyferrari1366
    @garyferrari1366 Рік тому +2

    Love the matching head lining

  • @chriskappert1365
    @chriskappert1365 10 місяців тому +2

    Doesn't matter in what body you put that Alfa Nord engine in , it just loves and begs to be thrashed !
    Absolutely georgious engine , a golden hart , one of the worlds best fourpots EVER ! ❤❤❤

  • @murrieteacher
    @murrieteacher Рік тому +4

    My brother-in-law was the Alfa person in our family, still is (4C, a few QF's, GTV and a 2600) while I went the Fiat route. We were in a race to see which car rusted the most. He had a 116 that put my 131 to shame every where, including the rust. Thanks Jack for reminding me of my younger years.

  • @petersimonsen4042
    @petersimonsen4042 Рік тому +2

    I've had 3 of these and a GTV. Miss them all. Had two of the Giuliettas on track days in Alfa club meetings and they were fantastic when whipped a bit. Felt like they just wanted more...

  • @benzinapaul7416
    @benzinapaul7416 Рік тому +6

    With the rear paralleogram suspension set up on these that keeps the rear wheels upright yet allowing the body to roll you have to steer them on the throttle, doing this they handle really well and you just put up with the roll

  • @gordonbos5447
    @gordonbos5447 Рік тому +8

    Absolutely brilliant car, I've owned several of them. The shortened boot actually made the car a lot more fun to drive, but as I remember people didn't like the wedge shape which looked weird at the time (just look at cars today and try to find one with a long boot like in the seventies). Cornering, just lift the throttle slightly to defeat the understeer and let the nose dive into the corner and once you notice the rear following increase throttle again and you'll outrun practically every modern car. Try the same with a contemporary beemer and you'll do at least two 360s ;)
    Note: there has never been a factory delivered 1.8 turbo. They did build a 2.0 Turbo for a short period and these were all black with red interior. That said, since the chassis remained unaltered from 1972 to 1992 a lot of interesting modifications are possible. The last Giulietta I drove had the undercarriage upgraded to that of a 75TS (bigger brakes) and featured the tighter gear linkage of the 75/90 range. I also know of multiple Giulietta's having had the engine replaced with a Busso V6

    • @sandrodunatov485
      @sandrodunatov485 Рік тому

      I totally concur, every word. Back then I have driven Giulietta, Alfetta, 75 .. 1.6 , 1.8 , 2.0 ... My father owned two Alfettas . Only the 1.3 eluded me. All of them I loved, great cars. Memories.

    • @Liban46227
      @Liban46227 Рік тому

      The trick is increase front tyre pressure and lower the back make it more fun power slide on corner

  • @Conky769
    @Conky769 Рік тому +2

    A stunningly beautiful car to see cornering.

  • @TheKrazyKat89
    @TheKrazyKat89 Рік тому +2

    This is the first time I see this car and I think it's gorgeous. Front, side and rear look great and very distinct.

  • @drink4711
    @drink4711 Рік тому +6

    The Giulietta looked awesome in the Carabinieri livery!

    • @Boa74
      @Boa74 3 місяці тому +1

      Giulietta was used by Polizia not Carabinieri. Alfetta was the Carabinieri's choice.

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. Рік тому +6

    Love a video on a late model, Alfa Romeo 6, if you can find one lovely looking car.

  • @johnmull59
    @johnmull59 Рік тому +2

    My boss had one and he absolutely loved it!

    • @johnmull59
      @johnmull59 Рік тому

      And by the way I thoroughly enjoy your reviews and the eclectic mix of cars on the channel.

  • @ChosenHandle117
    @ChosenHandle117 Рік тому +1

    I'm from that era and had totally forgotten about these... lovely thing and what an interior... like a 1970s cardigan.

  • @pietermeerstra1245
    @pietermeerstra1245 Рік тому +4

    How nice to see this Alfa driven. I had many Alfas, but this Giulietta is special to me as I had 2 of them when I was 20 and had no money nor skills to work on then (they were very cheap at the time but needed work) lovely memories about swapping engines and disassembling the interior. I got to know them really well but never got to drive them on public roads. I had a 75 later that drove like a dream but I prefer the design of the Giulietta. I think that it's actually very pretty and combines the wedge shape with some rounded parts that do not show in the video but irl it looks so good. Great to see you drive it

  • @paulpisters668
    @paulpisters668 Рік тому +2

    Always loved this steering wheel.

  • @lukasdewaal7080
    @lukasdewaal7080 Рік тому +1

    The essence of the Alfa Romeo brand - the oil leak - it’s at the heart of every car, they start with the oil leak as the core and then design and build the car around it, amazing

  • @OmarBarakat-p6i
    @OmarBarakat-p6i 8 місяців тому +1

    My friend had exactly like this baby in same color and driving her on bumby twisted Lebanon mountain roads is a drive that I will never forget

  • @RuperScooper
    @RuperScooper Рік тому +2

    Such a quirky cool Alfa seldom seen as you say. Great interior and that headlining was fabulous - so refreshing to see this period of design against all the jelly moulds we get now……

  • @greygtv6
    @greygtv6 Рік тому +4

    That was one of the best platforms for a daily driver ever made. It made the competition very basic which is why it lasted so long, and was used on so many models. I had that same spec in deep red and bought a BMW 320 at the same time. Beemer was smooth, nicer gearbox but it had no go nor could it tow my Hobiecat. So it was handed down to the then other half. The 16v 2.0l Golf GTi that I had a few years later couldn't match the torque of the Alfa. I've had 3 Guiliettas, 3 Alfettas and 2 GTV6s (1 still parked on my drive). So the platform is one I know and love well. IMO the Giulietta is a nicer looking car than the Alfetta as the boot is too long and not in proportion to the car. I forgot the Alfa 6 (Sei) that was also in my list of cars.

  • @cesarenotardonato9937
    @cesarenotardonato9937 2 місяці тому +1

    Just look at the damn headliner matching with the seats, it's like an italian suits. That interior is glamorous.

  • @rekordi
    @rekordi Рік тому +2

    Never seen this model live, and I was born in ’81. Must have dissolved quickly in the salty roads.

  • @martinboulden4388
    @martinboulden4388 Рік тому +14

    Your reviewing some amazing cars - Thank you for the content. ❤

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Martin, really glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jameswade4097
    @jameswade4097 Рік тому +2

    Had one of these 2nd hand in the early 80s mine was a 1.8 remember the lite stearing for unassisted,and good sounding tourqe engine.Good to drive and something a bit different from the norm, Loved it. Nice video

  • @kalleklp7291
    @kalleklp7291 9 місяців тому +2

    Everyone who has driven an Alfa will fall in love with it. Also, the design is just gorgeous.
    Their engines are marvels but unfortunately, they share a common problem for 70's and 80's cars..rust.

  • @luiscarlosvieira3966
    @luiscarlosvieira3966 Рік тому +3

    Normally, I don't like sedans look but these "square" Alfas (Giulietta + 75 + 155) ... I love them...

  • @mustsilm
    @mustsilm Рік тому +4

    Could you review some old Saabs, with Turbo, pre GM years? Unfortunately i dont have any.

  • @Akabei01
    @Akabei01 Рік тому +3

    I had a 1:24 scale model of a Giulietta back then. My dad had two Alfasuds in the mid to late seventies. Great cars, tending to rust pretty quickly but so was the Golf or any other car of that era. Then my aunt bought one of those infamous white Alfasud Corsa and that was utterly bonkers. It took just a few weeks until you could see the rust bubbles. Neither my aunt nor my dad bought an Alfa afterwards.
    Nonetheless, I loved most of the Alfas that came after the Alfasud. Not every car looked great but they all looked unique (let's forget the Arna) and the chassis and engine were top notch.

  • @mrdrains2088
    @mrdrains2088 Рік тому +4

    I love these Alfa videos, absolutely love them. I owned a 33 & an Alfetta sedan in my youth, there's something about the sound, the smell, the charm - they are just so charismatic. I'm now recommissioning an Alfa Romeo Sprint QV & can't wait to drive it this summer.
    Keep up the good work Jack & best wishes with the sale of the 308.

  • @davidraezer5937
    @davidraezer5937 Рік тому +4

    You are right about the back end not being the strong point. They changed that on the 75 which was also controversial but I liked the kink. I owned both the 2.5V6 and the 3.0 Verde. Such great cars. The last true quirky Alfa model.

  • @velkovskinikola2
    @velkovskinikola2 Рік тому +2

    In mz childhood this car was the police car from an italian TV series about the mafia - La Piovra. Also a neighbour had one

  • @lwprzybysz
    @lwprzybysz Рік тому +1

    I used to hate them for the looks of the back. But now, I simply love them. So much that a poster of one of them has been hanging over my desk just in front of me for 5 or more years. Btw, a really imaginative story about Romeo and Giulietta and the gauges ❤

  • @martinlagrange8821
    @martinlagrange8821 Рік тому +3

    They were the coolest car in South Africa when I was in junior school in Cape Town - there were lots running around there in the 1980's. Since you've sold your 308 - buy one of these !
    The 2nd BMW 3-series I always think of as the 'Italianate 3', in that they nailed Guigaro's design language of the 1970's, in house - even though he was by then doing new things.

  • @davyboy888
    @davyboy888 Рік тому +5

    Great vid Jack... and like everyone else on here, I absolutely adore this generation Giulietta. A guy who lived across the road from my parents [and who was a policeman back then !] bought a year old red one in 1984 or 1985 and wrote it off in a very high speed accident a few months later. It looked and sounded fantastic before he destroyed it.

  • @drunkonkerosene
    @drunkonkerosene Рік тому +3

    Absolutely wonderful car to slide around with on winter roads 🙂

    • @drunkonkerosene
      @drunkonkerosene Рік тому +1

      My older brother has a late example with Dell'orto carbs. Lovely noise 😍

  • @DaleSteel
    @DaleSteel Рік тому +4

    Alfas of the 80s and 90s are my favourite.

  • @brianward9973
    @brianward9973 Рік тому +5

    I always loved the Giulietta’s, I owned 4 of them back I the 80’s, two 2.0’s, a 1.8 and a 1.6. My last one replaced a GTV/6 2.5, I owned that 1.6 Giulietta until 1993. All mine were 1982 to 1983 versions so without the big plastic chunk of trim added below the boot and lights (I feel these earlier cars look better without that trim. Just returned to the Alfa fold with a new Giulia Veloce after a gap of 30 years.

    • @janvanrenselaar5998
      @janvanrenselaar5998 Рік тому

      I had a 2.0 in the same color as the vid,with the Nikki Lauda version and the numbered crome plate under the gear lever. It was glued on the road, like a maxi version of a mini. The engine sound is music to my ears. But what a rustbucket it was. After 4 years i could pinch a hole above the right front wheel. After that i had a Alfa 33, that was also a small nimble machine. As i live in spain and bought it there. No rust except the paint was flaking off. Always started good and was a much better car than the guilietta.

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus Рік тому +3

    Thanks, Jack. Another wonderful trip down memory lane. I owned one here in OZ in the early(ish) '80s. Red of course! While I only owned mine for about 18 months or so, I do recall a few characteristics of it. One was the huge nose-dive under hard braking as the weight shifted forward. Another was the mechanical engine sounds and exhaust notes. Particularly nice I thought overall. I also remember the technique to smoothly engage first gear, from a standstill, was to select second just before selecting first. A quirk of that rear transaxle it seemed. Don't see many of them about here in OZ also now. Mine has probably rusted away by now. 😁

  • @LJ45Chimera
    @LJ45Chimera Рік тому +10

    Beautiful looking car. Far nicer than the modern blob shaped things that all look the same.

    • @PaulHojda
      @PaulHojda Рік тому

      Very much disagree. It's one of the ugliest Alfas ever made.

  • @davebuts1921
    @davebuts1921 Рік тому +2

    I had one of these lovely cars. handling was good, brisk performance, the back brakes were a bit of a pain, but you could forgive it for the lovely steering wheel, so lovely to drive.

  • @marcelhandsome6042
    @marcelhandsome6042 Рік тому +4

    I miss this era of Alfa Romeo very charismatic, uncontrived, exciting, feel-good factor...... it's beautiful in a strange quirky sort of way, and the cloth interior is outstanding! However, as Alfa Romeo was the creator and inventor of the sports saloon, you do sense it was an opportunity missed and should have been best in class. It would be very interesting to see a review of the Alfa Romeo 6 and 90.

  • @Punt666
    @Punt666 9 місяців тому +1

    My uncle had one in the eighties!
    A red one with a grey underside. Was a special that was custom build for the Italian embassy in Bonn in Western-Germany.
    Interior was complete in black with velours and remember the digital red clock above the interior mirror.
    The engine was the 170bhp Turbo engine which was slightly tuned.
    Drove from Bonn to Lugano in Switzerland in under 6 hours.
    Great times!

  • @TProfileG
    @TProfileG Рік тому +2

    My Mum had a Guiletta 2.0 twin spark. It was written off by a guy who drove into the side. My Mum missed it immensely.

  • @thomash2806
    @thomash2806 Рік тому +1

    Thanks! Your videos are very good. Never the same vehicles as anyone else. I really love that interior. The things I love about older cars are comfy seats & suspension and nice fabrics. My 1983 CX has a glorious tweed-style fabric. The fact that the Giulietta’s extends to the headliner is perfect!

  • @mariusbotha3074
    @mariusbotha3074 Рік тому +2

    I had a 2.0 TI here in South Africa with side draft Dellorto carbs. Sold it for 3 times more that I bought it for after 2 months of owing it and bought a GTV6.

  • @GioDeR
    @GioDeR Рік тому +2

    always liked the look of this car, especially that rear end

  • @jaws6869
    @jaws6869 Рік тому +3

    I think David Visard had a book on these. They had steel crank and rods, adjustable cam sprockets and powder filled valves from factory. Dellretto?? Carbs were regarded as the best (webber and solex carbs were also fitted to these),and the syncromesh ring was always worn out on second gear. Great cars, i had a 3 over the years.

  • @bm6563
    @bm6563 Рік тому +1

    My first ever car 1.8L 1990. Loved it❤

  • @AdamPSutton
    @AdamPSutton 9 місяців тому +1

    Brings back memories of my 75 2.0TS.

  • @rc666
    @rc666 Рік тому +1

    My first AR experience was a 156 Benzina from work (police) , FWD but amazing comfort and handling.
    Maybe more on Italian cars? The more the merrier. E parla un po Italiano.
    My first ride in an Italian car was a Fiat 124, what a great small fun car to drive.

  • @grantpiper6358
    @grantpiper6358 Рік тому +2

    My first Alfa was a 1980 Giulietta 1.8 with a 2L swap 10548 cams etc bought in 1989. It was great little car , none of 'fancy stuff' shown in this later spec car. The 75 used much of the same metal on doors and elsewhere. Yes, the Alfetta is a better packaging job as a small 4 seat car - I have a '79 Alfetta also. I liked the style and wedgy look - very 80's I guess.

  • @StuartCalder-pd9bo
    @StuartCalder-pd9bo Рік тому +2

    I had a 1.8 when it first came out, and I still have very fond memories of it. Everything you say about it is true, and your running commentary brought back memories of driving it as if it was yesterday. Ultimately it was at its best on long transcontinental journeys on sweeping bends and at its worst going up narrow mountainous roads when the understeer robbed it of any potential for fun.

    • @Oberon_Boost
      @Oberon_Boost Рік тому +2

      If you rised up the tire pressure to 2,4 bar, you can forget the understeer effects on Alfa Romeo Giulietta. And Alfetta to. So if you mount a 15-inch wheels with low profile (50%) tires (Goodyear NCT2 for example) you will be happy to drive with that cars.

  • @mikewysko2268
    @mikewysko2268 Рік тому +2

    Stylish body and interior for its day. Looks and sounds like a joy to drive despite its few flaws. 😎

  • @ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725

    I'm italian and I really wanted to say thank you for pronoucing correctly all these names! It's actually the first time I'm hearing an anglophone doing that!

  • @tiredtrailer
    @tiredtrailer Рік тому +1

    Loved the wheels on those too.

  • @richardspencer7739
    @richardspencer7739 Рік тому +1

    Lovely video, pleasure to watch. One reason why I love living in Italy is for the cars. Been here 30 years, after NE UK.

  • @chrisgray4651
    @chrisgray4651 Рік тому +1

    I had an 83 2.0 from 3 yrs old, I loved that car, and would have another tomorow! It was fast, comfortable and would have GTI's and XR3's for breakfast! 12:31

    • @paulqueripel3493
      @paulqueripel3493 Рік тому

      As a 3 year old, how did you reach the pedals? 🙂
      (Sorry, that's how it reads to me)

    • @chrisgray4651
      @chrisgray4651 Рік тому

      @@paulqueripel3493 I had those wooden pedal blocks!

  • @johnbarry731
    @johnbarry731 Рік тому +2

    I had a ‘78 2 litre Alfetta. For me the best thing about them is that engine. The noise they make is amazing!

  • @lukasuton2433
    @lukasuton2433 Рік тому +1

    my neighbor (who just passed away yully 31.) was certified alfaRomeo servis in 80-2013 had one of this white one , also one of cult giulietta 1.3 Quadrifoglio verde 100ps he solo her in 1994 for 12 000 DM (deusch marke) what was seriously money than
    Much love and blessings from Adriatic coast of Croatia

  • @kevinjackson7340
    @kevinjackson7340 Рік тому +4

    As the old saying goes....you`re not a petrol head until you`ve owned an old Alfa Romeo.

  • @trisrush9155
    @trisrush9155 Рік тому +2

    Loved my guiliettas, very underestimated. 👍

  • @sammygirlie345
    @sammygirlie345 Рік тому +2

    Still looks good today

  • @drewsimpson5967
    @drewsimpson5967 Рік тому +2

    That looks superb in silver. Never seen one in that colour before. I could learn to live with the fussy rear end, I'm sure.
    Alloys look slightly reminiscent of those fitted to the Maserati Biturbo and bit like Ronal Turbos, as well.

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd Рік тому +2

    Love. Love. Love. An Alfa. The smell. Just. Because. Even though a motor trader and had most 90s early 2000s Alfas and would never dream to own another 159 1.75 Ti even as a lovely looking drab driving estate ... I’ve two 156s to just drive around couple times a month. Some Alfas do get under your skin.

  • @pruney84
    @pruney84 Рік тому +5

    No matter how, let's be honest, badly they were designed, you'll still find something to love in an old Alfa

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd Рік тому +1

    RED Alfa in thumbnail just looks / sits / in its driving images. So sweet. They often age so well in design. Always flawed. Always lovely to look at

  • @tonyflorio3269
    @tonyflorio3269 Рік тому +2

    When watching road tests of cars from this era, I'm taken by how good they sound. There's complexity -- intake honk, mechanical resonance, exhaust all changing in pitch and intensity throughout the rev range. Yet they don't sound obnoxious outside the car.
    Modern performance cars seem heavily tilted towards exhaust, I'm assuming because the old stuff often never calmed down and people didn't like the NVH. But the modern approach: loud exhaust with fake pops and crackles just doesn't have a lot of character to me. It's replacing music with noise.
    Love to see more focus on great sounds *in* the car like the old stuff. And bring back steering feel too!

  • @Oberon_Boost
    @Oberon_Boost Рік тому +1

    I owned some examples of old Alfa Romeo cars. Some 75 (3.0, 2.5 and 1.8. Turbo), Alfetta GTV Gran Prix 2.0 and thinking about some next one. It's a really fast and emotionally reach, beautiful, awesome, almost alive, warm and beautiful soul cars. Real petrolheads must have to love it on all of they hearts.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Рік тому +2

    Love these older cars your review and showcase because without your videos I would never know about them. Thank you. Keep up the good work.

  • @peterpretzell8035
    @peterpretzell8035 Рік тому +2

    Greetings from Austria, i had a white Giulietta in the mid 80`s.The trim before your model - what we would have called a Super - If i remember correct. My car was one owner , hence everything worked fine for years. Also had the Solex carbs. one night a Golf MK1 tried to challenge us on the highway for around 50 km, finally both cars had same speed . Had the Zender rims and super expensive Pirelli P7 on it, - wish I still would have it.

  • @cooper33
    @cooper33 Рік тому +1

    Whoohoooo another Italian beauty! Looks are amazing keep those Italian gems coming Jack!

  • @arthurdardalis
    @arthurdardalis Рік тому +1

    Had a 2.0 Guilietta, loved it

  • @sudorelabs4901
    @sudorelabs4901 Рік тому +2

    Another great video! Well Done! Keep it coming! Really been enjoying watching the review style! Your Friend Levi, hope to see u soon in the community

  • @CumminsVoortman
    @CumminsVoortman Рік тому +10

    I think the original 1977 launch model was a nicer and cleaner design and also was better than the BMW’s of that era. I have the series 1 which are even rarer and better in my view. It was designed by Ermano Cressoni. Build quality was good and rust protection was above average for the time.

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 Рік тому +2

      Great Ermanno, who has yet to be rediscovered

    • @MORAMAX
      @MORAMAX 9 місяців тому +1

      @@studiocalder818 For many years I didn't realize that the 75 was a modified Giulietta...the 4 doors are the same. Alfa didn't have the money to develop new molds and the architect Ermanno Cressoni was a true genius to obtain the new 75 i starting from his old Giulietta

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@MORAMAX
      Yes, a stroke of design genius without being able to count on the money in the drawer. And with the "broken wedge" design he also managed to obtain a family feeling with the 33.
      When it came out I didn't like it so much, I continued to prefer the Giulietta; but with some changes to the side profiles (with the hint of a rear spoiler) and the grille the car has changed radically in my eyes. Not to mention the 2.0 Twin Spark changes.

    • @MORAMAX
      @MORAMAX 9 місяців тому +1

      @@studiocalder818 Yes, in the Twin Spark the side band that gradually becomes the rear spoiler is a master's touch. Changing an existing project with little money is more complex than doing a completely new project... I'm an architect too

    • @studiocalder818
      @studiocalder818 9 місяців тому

      @@MORAMAX Apart from the 1.6 I would say that they all had the tailpiece, my first one was a 1.8 ie which had it.
      Good job then 😀

  • @TommiAtah
    @TommiAtah Рік тому +1

    Owned one of these after three Suds. Only bought it, because my son came along and I needed four doors. I loved it almost as much as my Sud Green Gloverleaf in black. My Guilietta was in a weird beige colour, but it looked cool. Last Alfa I owned, would love to have another. Must have been in the blood, my son went on to own several 147s.

  • @johnthelwell3244
    @johnthelwell3244 Рік тому +3

    I had one back in the day. Loved it. Replaced it with a Lancia Delta. Equally as good.

  • @INNIMA
    @INNIMA Рік тому +1

    This car looks like a outdated space craft and I love it

  • @owenmorgan857
    @owenmorgan857 Рік тому +1

    One of the teachers in my school way back when had one of these

  • @ilBarbonauta
    @ilBarbonauta Рік тому +1

    Your pronunce is perfect, like an italian! 👏👏Congrats

  • @Isus666999
    @Isus666999 Рік тому +1

    The sound of the carburated Nord ❤️❤️❤️

  • @robertjacobsen7021
    @robertjacobsen7021 Рік тому +1

    The best way for a car to not be forgotten is to not be forgettable. And the best way to do that is to make it last and make it at least reasonably reliable. Like fiat the y 3:41 never managed to accomplish either

  • @damienmills293
    @damienmills293 Рік тому +2

    Alfettas (this Guilietta is on the alfetta platform) will understeer on a trailing throttle through corners. They will reward you if you drive as you are supposed to: approach the corner with revs well above 4000 rpm and as fast as you dare, lift off (or touch the brakes with the left foot) to shift the weight forward and control the car on the throttle by powering the car though the corner. Like a race car. POWER through the corner!!! This moves the car from under- to over- steer without moving the steering wheel. You can then "balance the car on the throttle" holding the car at maximum grip through the corner, no matter how tight. Lift off, car goes wide. More throttle and the car turns in. The flaw in the "handling" in this review is the driving style.This chassis won championships galore both on dirt and tarmac.
    The gearshift is with a rod, rev matching helps A LOT. If the Alfetta chassis has a "flaw" it is that it requires skill and intention to drive fast and it will reward the driver.
    Yes I own an Alfetta and have yet to drive car that gives anywhere near the pleasure at the price but to get that pleasure YOU MUST DRIVE it hard.