I loved her when she was 20. She was so beautiful. And I love her now when she is approaching her 80s. What an amazing woman. What an accomplished pianist.
There's a tenderness in there that the boys, even the brilliant best of them, don't quite match perhaps, and the singular beauty of those accentuated notes preface perfectly the maelstrom of torment,emotional release and relief, expressed in a wild concentration of abandon, yet controlled, embers of comfort left after the fury of fire.
Exactly my sentiments...she is a force of nature, like all women....it is innate in us. This is like a reply to men through musical notation...truly moving!!!
1978. I was there too.also one of my favourite nocturnes. afterwards I gave her my 3in1 portraits of M.Argerich drawing. she still has it. therefore I know the date. I even kept the ticket entrée in m y photo album somewhere. analogue pics those days. thx. She played also Ravels Gaspard de la Nuit. started with a piece of 3 Argentinian dances. Perhaps also Ravels waltzes....?
asombroso!........como se apega al doppio movimento en la repetición (tempo doble)..y mantiene su coherencia.....ni hablar de una profunda expresividad en su interpretación...este es un Chopin que nadie puede emular.
The 'recap' is marked 'doppio movimento', i.e. twice the speed of the opening, and Argerich is the only pianist who gets anywhere near achieving this almost impossible demand. And she turns the middle section into a prayer. Awesome.
Joseph Laredo IMHO, the best performance of this nocturne on recording is by Fou Ts'ong, due to the way he plays the last section. It's passionate, virtuosic, and technically flawless and perfectly phrased.
Joseph Laredo "impossible demand"? lol There are many pro classical pianists who can play the doppio at double the speed... Richter, Yundi, etc you make it sound like its impossible.
Spiteful Ogre Absolutely correct. She even missed a couple notes: at 3:32 she missed G in the melody, played an extra E flat at 4:12, and at 4:16 something sounds off to me.
@Spiteful Ogre I really think this is the most stupid comment I have ever read in UA-cam. Sorry, I think it is the most stupid comment I haver ever read. Period.
@@eugenelevin9809 at 3:32 she didn't miss any G, listen carefully. The rest yes, extra E flat and there was something off at 4:16. But still I think her doppio is way more clear, round and more emboddied that Yundi's
Awesome with Marta Argerich. I don't know why each time I listen to this nocturne, it makes me remember cold winter nights in Moscow, eventhough I never live there, just only passed by
You may be 'too young" to know the once-famous movie about Chopin - "A Song To Remember." [ Not too bad - for Hollywood.] At the end of the movie there is a scene of Chopin (Cornel Wilde! Probably dead himself now.) in bed, dying of Tuberculosis. In the background there is a slightly muted piano heard in the Nocturne Op. 48/1 (C Minor. Liszt supposedly the pianist. I was maybe 6 or 7 years old, had been taking piano lessons for about a year. A tremendously moving scene, and even at that young an age, I remember 'shivers', and have never forgotten its impact (primarily from the Nocturne!).
hmm sorry but true: unorgasmic people cannot understand the orgasm of others: the same goes with feelings, if you have never really be depressed, reached bottom or the opposite, how you can express it or even understand in others? The speed and the volume is just natural expression of emotions. Martha Argerich you really have deep soul, maturity and intelligence!
Thank you , thank you so much for this tremendously right comment . This is a blessing . You understand everything . So rare on YT ! .... And , of course I have absolutely nothing to add . Only could I tell only on myself , that at 3:23 (I suppose as yourself) I am crying every time , this is the most magical and tortured moment of Martha's carreer ...
it's not pounding. I'd rather call it throbbing, like i happens with a heart or a fire. I've become accustomed to loving Martha in whatever she sings. But her nocturnes are SO extraordinary. while listening one understands why she seldom plays them: the passion of her playing is almost unbearable, though perfect.
Electricity in a Nocturne ............ electricity in the night .... something between a man and a woman in the middle of the night, in some lonesome datcha, forgotten in snow and ice, looking desperately to speak to each other .... mein Gott, 3:24 , is this beautiful, is this beautiful ... ............. only a women, only a women can play this like that.
I love her sense of phrasing, tone and rythm, although she does play very very fast sometimes but thats her own style. No matter what these critics say, she won the 65 Chopin Competition for a reason, and its pretty clear for me which reason was. She is fantastic.
Este noturno a interpretação do noturno e quem a interpreta o compositor... nenhum deles são daqui...presente do Pai ... somos merecedores?!?... eis a questão...de outra esfera... dimensão..
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher you said I was slow so I clearly recognized that as an insult and returned the favor. Or am I getting the wrong message here? If you want to have an actual conversation about the interpretation on this piece I’m all ears. If I am wrong I do apologize.
@@PorscheGT-yj2me Don't apologize, there no need for it. My reply was a bit ironic. I meant that your sensivity was "slow" because I find this piece is full of tension, and the interpretation of Argerich reflects this tension perfectly. Many scores of Chopin are very energetic, and many interprets consider Chopin as weak romantic. At the opposite, I feel Chopin as a precursor of Scriabin, desperate, nervous, agressive. And I enjoy a scriabinian nervousness, velocity, unbalanced way of playing it.
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher I do agree with what you are saying, argerich’s fast playing of the last section does really bring out that pure anger and desperation that I think chopin intended. Have u listened to Pogorelich version; or Gabriela monteros version of this piece? I think her style of playing might fit ur aggressive view of playing this nocturne, but tell me your thoughts on them I would like to hear them! Also, what Scriabin pieces do u recommend that give this same type of emotion?
Chopin en las manos de argerich se vuelve tosco, falto de la finura que caracteriza su música. El fraseo de argerich, de caracter agresivo, avasallante y extremadamente mecánico no es buena combinación con Chopin. Un espanto la interpretación.
J don't like some revolt , some sound too énergie , some speed often , some hard sonority often : not for me Argerich by her personality is not op48-1 that j will a second time
Mrs. Ross, I think you would have to revisit your concept of vulgarity. What is your problem with so this called "vulgarity" ? Flesh ? Sex ? Orgasm ? Please tell us.
I Would love for you to name the sections or passages (by thematic description or tape numbers) that you find "shallow and immature." If you have a score, I will try to "answer" you with bar #s or form/key descriptions., plus thematic IDs. Otherwise, recording numbers.
I loved her when she was 20. She was so beautiful. And I love her now when she is approaching her 80s. What an amazing woman. What an accomplished pianist.
Was? She’s still beautiful tho
she made this nocturne into an epic ballade
Totally agree. I would rather say this piece has inherent and structural Ballade qualities.
Quite right--it is a Nocturne in name only.😊
The reigning queen of the piano...
Hello .... R u still there? I mean .... You still use yt ??
@@adityapanwar5371 what about you? it's been one year....
And whats about you after one month? :)
Thank you for sharing! This is an awesome piece of Martha which I've never heard.
Hello
Fantastic, she is music...and was born like that. Wonderfull so young.., pure talent , the best of best. ,
C'est merveilleux, sublime, extraordinaire.
Merci, pour elle, devant tant de détracteurs au cul froid.
There's a tenderness in there that the boys, even the brilliant best of them, don't quite match perhaps, and the singular beauty of those accentuated notes preface perfectly the maelstrom of torment,emotional release and relief, expressed in a wild concentration of abandon, yet controlled, embers of comfort left after the fury of fire.
Exactly my sentiments...she is a force of nature, like all women....it is innate in us. This is like a reply to men through musical notation...truly moving!!!
Thank you for sharing. I love Martha's technique and style.
Doppio movimento is like Argerich arguing with someone and 4:02 appoggiatura sounds really mad and dramatic . Bellissimo!!
Es la primera vez que oigo esta versión de Martha. Me ha erizado la piel!! Sublime!!
Wonderful and daring interpretation of this conflicted Nocturne by Chopin. This is the nocturne that separates the men from the boys, as it were.
1978. I was there too.also one of my favourite nocturnes. afterwards I gave her my 3in1 portraits of M.Argerich drawing. she still has it. therefore I know the date. I even kept the ticket entrée in m y photo album somewhere. analogue pics those days. thx. She played also Ravels Gaspard de la Nuit. started with a piece of 3 Argentinian dances. Perhaps also Ravels waltzes....?
STUNNING
asombroso!........como se apega al doppio movimento en la repetición (tempo doble)..y mantiene su coherencia.....ni hablar de una profunda expresividad en su interpretación...este es un Chopin que nadie puede emular.
This is what I thought at first. But I learned to enjoy it very much.
Doppio movimento gave me actual goosebumps. Brava.
The 'recap' is marked 'doppio movimento', i.e. twice the speed of the opening, and Argerich is the only pianist who gets anywhere near achieving this almost impossible demand. And she turns the middle section into a prayer. Awesome.
Joseph Laredo IMHO, the best performance of this nocturne on recording is by Fou Ts'ong, due to the way he plays the last section. It's passionate, virtuosic, and technically flawless and perfectly phrased.
Joseph Laredo "impossible demand"? lol There are many pro classical pianists who can play the doppio at double the speed... Richter, Yundi, etc you make it sound like its impossible.
Spiteful Ogre Absolutely correct. She even missed a couple notes: at 3:32 she missed G in the melody, played an extra E flat at 4:12, and at 4:16 something sounds off to me.
@Spiteful Ogre I really think this is the most stupid comment I have ever read in UA-cam. Sorry, I think it is the most stupid comment I haver ever read. Period.
@@eugenelevin9809 at 3:32 she didn't miss any G, listen carefully. The rest yes, extra E flat and there was something off at 4:16. But still I think her doppio is way more clear, round and more emboddied that Yundi's
Martha você é genial.!!🇧🇷🇮🇹
Fantastico
gooooooooosebumps at 3:24!
Bellissime esecuzioni!
Awesome with Marta Argerich. I don't know why each time I listen to this nocturne, it makes me remember cold winter nights in Moscow, eventhough I never live there, just only passed by
You may be 'too young" to know the once-famous movie about Chopin - "A Song To Remember." [ Not too bad - for Hollywood.] At the end of the movie there is a scene of Chopin (Cornel Wilde! Probably dead himself now.) in bed, dying of Tuberculosis.
In the background there is a slightly muted piano heard in the Nocturne Op. 48/1 (C Minor. Liszt supposedly the pianist. I was maybe 6 or 7 years old, had been taking piano lessons for about a year. A tremendously moving scene, and even at that young an age, I remember 'shivers', and have never forgotten its impact (primarily from the Nocturne!).
she plays this beautifully
Que belleza! Martha, siempre Martha! Joven y bella, madura y genial. Sublime interpretación!
Absoluty best version
The best one !
É de chorar de tão lindo, Martha é fantástica!
hmm sorry but true: unorgasmic people cannot understand the orgasm of others: the same goes with feelings, if you have never really be depressed, reached bottom or the opposite, how you can express it or even understand in others? The speed and the volume is just natural expression of emotions.
Martha Argerich you really have deep soul, maturity and intelligence!
Thank you , thank you so much for this tremendously right comment . This is a blessing . You understand everything . So rare on YT ! .... And , of course I have absolutely nothing to add . Only could I tell only on myself , that at 3:23 (I suppose as yourself) I am crying every time , this is the most magical and tortured moment of Martha's carreer ...
Bruh All the Comments on this Video are YEARS OLD!!!
GOAT
sounds like a "tango" ahah her rubato is magic...
it's not pounding. I'd rather call it throbbing, like i happens with a heart or a fire.
I've become accustomed to loving Martha in whatever she sings. But her nocturnes are SO extraordinary. while listening one understands why she seldom plays them: the passion of her playing is almost unbearable, though perfect.
So feminine love it
Brava!
Electricity in a Nocturne ............ electricity in the night .... something between a man and a woman in the middle of the night, in some lonesome datcha, forgotten in snow and ice, looking desperately to speak to each other .... mein Gott, 3:24 , is this beautiful, is this beautiful ... ............. only a women, only a women can play this like that.
:-)), like it
What? A lot of people seem to think that her playing lacks emotion, but I find more emotion in the middle section here than in any other performance.
I love her sense of phrasing, tone and rythm, although she does play very very fast sometimes but thats her own style. No matter what these critics say, she won the 65 Chopin Competition for a reason, and its pretty clear for me which reason was. She is fantastic.
Este noturno a interpretação do noturno e quem a interpreta o compositor... nenhum deles são daqui...presente do Pai ... somos merecedores?!?... eis a questão...de outra esfera... dimensão..
Hate it when i have all thw volume and an add comes up lol
lol. That recap is so difficult. I've never heard anyone play it that speed before.
An interesting, though somewhat unusual, interpretation.
Go to sleep.
for profundity....hear Myra Hess.......closer to Chopin
, here....Liszt....?
I liked her middle section but Maria João Pires still has the best interpretation of this piece in my opinion
I wouldn't doubt that! Pires is an *excellent* pianist and would be doubly excellent in this Nocturne.
Maria can't play this
@@guillermocorvalan3725 And
And apparently you don't know the extraordinary pianism of Pires.
El más grande chopiniano de todos los tiempos es Dinu Lipatti.🌹 . Pero ella tiene su estilo. 🎶🎵🎹🌸🍀🌸🍀🌸🍀
Too fast imo
you are too slow
@@PorscheGT-yj2me
This is most strange reply I've ever seen about one of my comment ....
What is your idea ? Could you perhaps give some more?
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher you said I was slow so I clearly recognized that as an insult and returned the favor. Or am I getting the wrong message here? If you want to have an actual conversation about the interpretation on this piece I’m all ears. If I am wrong I do apologize.
@@PorscheGT-yj2me
Don't apologize, there no need for it.
My reply was a bit ironic.
I meant that your sensivity was "slow" because I find this piece is full of tension, and the interpretation of Argerich reflects this tension perfectly.
Many scores of Chopin are very energetic, and many interprets consider Chopin as weak romantic.
At the opposite, I feel Chopin as a precursor of Scriabin, desperate, nervous, agressive.
And I enjoy a scriabinian nervousness, velocity, unbalanced way of playing it.
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher I do agree with what you are saying, argerich’s fast playing of the last section does really bring out that pure anger and desperation that I think chopin intended. Have u listened to Pogorelich version; or Gabriela monteros version of this piece? I think her style of playing might fit ur aggressive view of playing this nocturne, but tell me your thoughts on them I would like to hear them! Also, what Scriabin pieces do u recommend that give this same type of emotion?
No one like her
???
Chopin en las manos de argerich se vuelve tosco, falto de la finura que caracteriza su música. El fraseo de argerich, de caracter agresivo, avasallante y extremadamente mecánico no es buena combinación con Chopin. Un espanto la interpretación.
J don't like some revolt , some sound too énergie , some speed often , some hard sonority often : not for me Argerich by her personality is not op48-1 that j will a second time
Sure, if you like watered-down versions, like Rubinstein, this one full of passion and despair is not for you.
Way too fast doppio movemento...She even missed a couple notes in the melody..
So what ?
Highly entertaining. Now play it properly please.
This pianist is quite forceful in her twisted and decadent interpretation. Where is the poetry in all of this macabre?
Lucio Palma
I agree
Here is no poetry at all in this score my friend . No way . Read what "uranus terra" is writing for people like you , some further posts ....
This's the worst of Martha-in bad taste and manners.
Really ? You must be a very uninteresting person.
Of course, your taste and manners are much more refined. What arrogance!
So vulgar
You are vulgar, and a horrible person
J think she don't play a nocturne , did understood what that mean a Nocturne ?
Mrs. Ross, I think you would have to revisit your concept of vulgarity.
What is your problem with so this called "vulgarity" ?
Flesh ? Sex ? Orgasm ?
Please tell us.
@@alainspiteri502 You who are so clever, should explain it to her. What arrogance!
schrecklich
Kalter Arsch
Rare..! She plays without emotion.
In your opinion... On the contrary, I believe this is one of the most emotional renditions of this nocturne.
This performance is amazingly shallow and immature, though technically excellent.
I believe you might need to re-check your dictionary for the definition of *emotion*.
I Would love for you to name the sections or passages (by thematic description or tape numbers) that you find "shallow and immature." If you have a score, I will try to "answer" you with bar #s or form/key descriptions., plus thematic IDs. Otherwise, recording numbers.
Sorry, that would not be worth my trouble, and it would be a very subjective matter. By the way, my own piano lessons began in 1961, 56 years ago.
Please stop the pounding on the keys
my God, there is a reason to live,....
at least...