You can just let players always have a "hand" of three tiles to choose from, rather than burying tiles. But either way it helps. Cool you mentioned this trick!
Thanks! And it sounds like current tile-placement games do this more and more. Planet is the one that comes to mind. Players take turns drafting the tile they want from a pool of player count + 1 face-up tiles.
Carcassonne is still in my top 5 games. I don't have a perfect memory for all the tiles, but I still know enough that, usually, 95% of my placements will eventually get me points, without having to toss very many useless pieces way off on an unused part of the board (and even then, I can sometimes use those to block my opponents). The small scale tactics leading up to stealing cities, and the long term strategy of where and when you place your farmer really appeal to me. I think this game is VERY fun, especially if you throw in just expansions 1 and 2. All of my games last about an hour, which is the sweet spot for me, and the Inns, Cathedrals, and Builders add TONNES of tactical and strategic decisions. Might want to reword future Find the Fun episodes so it's more clearly your personal opinion. It almost came across as an objective fact in this video, and I'd hate to see new board gamers skip this classic.
Ha! IS there such thing as objectivity when you're talking about how fun a board game is? Obviously, your mileage may vary... and you must be driving a slower car than the rest of us. Sick burns aside, i didn't play Carcassonne before shooting this video in the off chance there was some undiscovered fun to be had, because i was pretty sure i had drawn the correct conclusion. Even as i was setting up the game to photograph it, i had trouble putting the tiles together, since there were only ever a few legal places to stick 'em. It just confirmed how very, *objectively* right i am. ;)
I don't think this game is for you, because we love the game. Expansions really do add to the game. We (wife and I) prefer it as a two-player competitive game, which can get quite mean.
Outstanding metaphor at the end. Not sending the aged war vet into battle! So good. You helped me examine some vague misgivings I had, and even though I still enjoy Carcassonne, I can see why you don’t.
Thanks for the review. One thing I did was scan the page from the rule book that has all the tiles and quantities and reduced to a nice size reference card and made laminate copies for player reference. Also agree about the expansions. They just add to to the luck factor even farther.
It is more a feeling that the tile must be there in the Stack. Not a knowing. And 90 i am right. When we play it. I think the first two big Expansions are a must.
Thanks for the nice review of Carcassonne. So I'm not alone in not grasping the magic of this super popular game. That is a relief to hear. Somehow I feel I'm somehow obliged to like this game given its enormous fan base. By the way, how nice it would be if you did a similar Scrabble bashing video! I'm sure Scrabble is even much worse than Carcassonne. For example, I simply refuse to play with the Q included, as you always require an rare U as well, in the Dutch version in any case, but this probably holds up for English as well. It's a sad thing that there are no good word games.
Scrabble is kind of like chess. If you want to play well, you have to study. But then you put yourself in another league entirely, and if you try to play against casual players, they’ll get angry at you. In English, there are about 10 words in the official Scrabble Dictionary that begin with Q without U, and one of the first things you do when you start to study the game is to learn those words. But if you foist QAT on a casual player and insist it’s valid and that it’s in the Scrabble Dictionary, they’ll get upset and say “well i don’t play like that.” Sigh.
Yeah, I agree very strongly with you regarding Carcassonne. I only keep it around because it's easy to play and people know it. I like the game but I played it way too often back in the day.
it seems insane to me that anyone would play with more than one or two expansions at a time and then complain that it's too much. If you don't want to be overloaded with rules and options, then don't overload yourself. I only own the base set and haven't even combined the abbot and river, we play them separately in my house. I'm looking forward to my big box arriving, so we'll be able to widen our options for playing, but we won't be throwing them all in at once.
My base set actually came with The River included, and i think it's safe to add no matter what else you're playing with, since it doesn't add any rules to think about - it just varies the layout. But i don't like the idea of designing a pile of expansions to a game that either a) can't be played together (that's the WORST) or b) shouldn't be played together.
I’m with ya, used to be fun but not anymore. However there are tile placement games with more control (like you always have 3 face up and can choose one like in gingerbread house) but I don’t reach for carcassone anymore but also refuse to get rid of it LOL
I only enjoy tile placement when everyone has a personal board and there is more than one stack to choose from(like Castles of Burgundy or Rajas of the Ganges). This removes most of the (accidental) kingmaking and reduces the odds that you're randomly going to draw junk, as you have many options to choose from. The only tile placement I enjoy which doesn't fit that description is Patchwork, and I wouldn't enjoy that either if it wasn't both short and a duel game.
So interesting! i don’t event consider Burgundy a tile laying game, even though that’s quite literally what you’re doing. i think it’s because the tiles are all face up... you’re scheming to get a very specific tile, instead of grabbing a random surprise piece... and the tiles all have specific placement spots. You’re not really struggling to fit that tile into some jigsaw structure. When i think (disapprovingly) of tile-laying games, i’m thinking of games like Carcassonne, Explorers of the North Sea, and (shudder) ...Tsuro.
I just gave up on this game too though it breaks my heart cause this used to be one of me and my partner's favorite game. The game just didn't age well for me, it plays too long and no longer has that fun factor I get on other newer games.
You missed the fact that you can steal cities or fields as a “fun” trait. I recently played the Carc after 3 years of not playing, it was still pretty fun.
To avoid memorization: al the beginning, remove some tiles. And adjust the number of tiles to the number of players, that way no one will have an extra turn.
I can understand you don't like tiling games (especially with a common board to be built). But do you still don't like them when it's a personal board you are building ? such as Kingdomino or Glen More for example ?
Haven't played either of those, but it really depends. i don't mind the personal tiling in Princes of Florence (maybe because it's limited?), but not a huge fan of the personal tiling in Patchwork. And this, coming from a massive fan of Tetris. i am a complex animal.
Good video but you're wrong😆Carcassonne has been stepped over in the race to play all the new games and It is extremely old in the modern boardgame community but I honestly can't think of a better tile playing game🙂✌
Hello, Ryan. I believe you've been expecting me (here, and BGG, whichever you see first). Carcassonne: fun mechanics, easily learned, potentially cutthroat. You really want to play with people who have a similar approach to the interactive options, i.e. "take that!" I am not at all against having the list of tiles available to all players (I too suffer from a patchy short-term memory.) This was one of the first strategy games I would bring out when my kids were little. And, I usually eschew the farmer rules when teaching any new players. I've played twice in the past year, and not for a year and a half before that. The most recent time, I came in last of three players, the winner being completely new to the game. I won't say he was entirely lucky, as he's got a head for these things, but I will say I was routinely unlucky. Too many turns the tiles came up in someone else's favor instead of mine. So, it doesn't get frequent play, but I do still *enjoy* it, for what it is. There are a lot of games that ride the fence of meaningful decisions and random chance, and this is still among the better of that lot. All told, a solid 7 out of 10. Incidentally, I played Ingress one warm season, many moons ago, until the snows fell and I had my fill. I played Pokemon Go for a couple summer months until my interest waned. I'm now playing Wizards Unite for, what, 2 and a half weeks? Yeah, the novelty is already wearing off.
@@NightsAroundaTable And... are you doing some work with them? I looked you up one time before I was aware of your video game work. Nice to have a diverse skill set!
This is a good video. An important video. A video every board gamer should watch at least once. I got about 1/3 of the way into this and got bored. This video replicates my experience with Carcassone precisely.
Thank you for another great video, Ryan. I thin it depends on how you define fun. I can have a lot of fun with Carcassonne, but I don't expect a game with a lot of strategy or complexity. I expect a light game, that is easy to teach, quick to set up, relatively quick to play, and allows people who are new to boardgames a way into the hobby. However, given the choice between Carcassonne and Clans of Caledonia, then Clans wins. :)
Ah! Clans! Is THAT the tile-laying game ppl say is actually decent, and solves a lot of problems? i kept thinking it was Glen More (but i haven't played either of them).
@@NightsAroundaTable No, Clans is not a tile laying game at all. Clans is the Terra Mystica killer - or so people, and haven't corrected them so far. ;) I know, I'm comparing apples with pears...
@@NightsAroundaTable Well, Gaia is the sequel to Terra really - while Clans has very similar mechanisms as Terra, but to me Clans' theme makes more sense, which makes Clans more fun for me to play than Terra - and it seems others feel the same and think Clans has solved a number of other issues that Terra is said to have.
I completely agree with how you judge Carcassonne; it was great back then, but doesn't hold its own against modern competition. However, I do get it out of the shelf quite often because many aspects of this game make it more attractive to my family members (aka co-players) than, say, Great Western Trail. My choice on these occasions is to either play Carcassonne or not to play at all (or by myself)...
i hear you loud and clear. My family will play low-time-commitment games with me once every couple of months - begrudgingly. When i was making the Ticket to Ride video recently, my daughter walked by and said "Oooh! What's that?" and i died inside a little.
We purchased a big box and play with limited expansions (River, Super meep, Abbot, Builders and Traders, Flying Machines) with friends and relatives...and play pretty cut-throat...except for the river tiles (which we keep stacked) we put all the other tiles in a bag to draw from because pulling from stacked tiles seems to lack a bit of randomness. Any more 'expansions' seems like overload or making things a bit too easy...and crazy trying to score and figure out some of the rules...the expansions we use are really great for potential conflict so that keeps the games lively. We're thinking of adding a 'jerk-face board' and after 10 moves that really hammer someone you get a couple of bonus points.
i've actually never played! But what i've heard from multiple people is that building the ship is fun, but watching it fall apart in the second half isn't. True?
It depends on what your idea of fun is! It can be frustrating, but the bad things are happening to everyone in the same way, so one minute you'll be clenching your fists and yelling "NOOO!" at the ceiling while your friends laugh, and the next you'll be laughing at them instead. It's always hilarious, but not very tactical, so it's maybe not a gamer's game.
@@chriswheeler5357 From what i can gleam, it sounds thematically similar to his other game, Space Alert, which (after one outing) my wife refuses to play with me. i think it's hysterical, but she doesn't like the pressure and pain.
I'm with you on Carcassonne but still enjoy other tile placement games. Especially if you're placing the tile on your own board like in Azul or Mad King Ludwig. Also, the joy that comes with talking trash in Dominoes makes up for the occasional nimrod feeding other players. It feels like trash talking is not as acceptable in Azul as it is in Dominoes and is probably the lesser for it.
The memorization makes the game great. It makes it a skill game. Hard to remember? Its only 19 different tiles. From 1-9 of each. And they can be grouped for easier memorization. Make and use a help sheet in the start, to learn faster. No problem. At 2-player its a masterpiece with online, national and world championships. Its unbalanced at 3-players. Pretty fun with four. Kingmaking? Well its really at 2-player the game is fantastic. Every game is unique. Its a constant blocking, challenging, optimizing, locking. No I dont support the three tiles. Its amazing with one. In tournaments you can pull a new tile to look at while the other player decides. This is adviced. I am a master strategy player in my country, with over 35 tournament wins in different games. Got over 200 board games. Carcassonne at 2-player is my favourite game. What I think about you? You dont want to know... Its one of the five most played games every year for 17-18 years in row by the BGG users. Its superpopular at Boardgamearena and so is the app. The game is holding up great. I've looked at the games at your channel. You love random, and we both know why... too small engine in the car...
Interesting that you would complain about the randomness in Everdell, but praise it in Carcassonne! If you're fine with memorization, i suggest memorizing the deck in Everdell, and you'll have a much better time with it. :) i may have too small an engine in the car, but your need to attack my intelligence here suggests you have too small a penis in the pants.
Nights Around a Table In Carcassonne, every game is different. You have to adapt to this. The memorization done in Carcassonne is really super simple, let say, compared to openings in chess. You can't memorize the smartest moves, like chess. And this is great. Carcassonne has been super popular since launch, both by competitive gamers like me and among regular gamers. Top 5 played every year of BGG users for 18 years straight. Of all games published you decide to attack one(1) game, and claim the memorization is too much, and it got kingmaking(!). You skip all tiles games? Cant do hills with you tiny engine... ;-)
We agree that Carcassonne is hardly chess! i’ve played s few other tile-laying games, and i just generally don’t enjoy them. The most recent one was Explorers if the North Sea, which reminded me a lot of Carcassonne. That’s not to say i don’t like ANY games with tiles in them... i’ve seen Castles of Burgundy described as a tile-laying game, but i think that’s a stretch.
I like this channel and the reviewer seems like a nice guy but these "is it fun" segments, I suspect, are more about you not being open to enjoying a game from the outset. I hated Dominion from a distance for the longest time, refused to even consider it. But then I reluctantly played it and found out that, in spite of it's hideousness and "lack of theme", it's a great game. And some of these criticism are tantamount to arguing "soccer is a bad sport because you can't use your hands" or "sushi is bad because you don't eat it on a bun". Finally, a criticism like "you have to have the tiles memorized" is, firstly, false, but secondly, familiarity with the random elements of the game that are drawn from decks or bags or tile stacks is literally in.... 80+ percent of all games in existence. So do me a favor and issue a mea culpa: I don't like Carcassonne because of a strong bias I have that prevents me from enjoying it, I'm allergic to it more or less, and my opinion on it should be disregarded entirely.
Mea culpa: I don't like Carcassonne because of a strong bias i have that prevents me from enjoying it. i'm allergic to it more or less, and my opinion on it should be disregarded entirely. Feel better?
Carcassonne SUCKS! I hate it, dumb boring game! We've tried it with several other people and everyone hates it. Its just so boring! If you play games like Kingsburg, Stone Age and Catan, you'll hate Carcus!
You can just let players always have a "hand" of three tiles to choose from, rather than burying tiles. But either way it helps. Cool you mentioned this trick!
Thanks! And it sounds like current tile-placement games do this more and more. Planet is the one that comes to mind. Players take turns drafting the tile they want from a pool of player count + 1 face-up tiles.
Carcassonne is still in my top 5 games. I don't have a perfect memory for all the tiles, but I still know enough that, usually, 95% of my placements will eventually get me points, without having to toss very many useless pieces way off on an unused part of the board (and even then, I can sometimes use those to block my opponents). The small scale tactics leading up to stealing cities, and the long term strategy of where and when you place your farmer really appeal to me.
I think this game is VERY fun, especially if you throw in just expansions 1 and 2. All of my games last about an hour, which is the sweet spot for me, and the Inns, Cathedrals, and Builders add TONNES of tactical and strategic decisions.
Might want to reword future Find the Fun episodes so it's more clearly your personal opinion. It almost came across as an objective fact in this video, and I'd hate to see new board gamers skip this classic.
Ha! IS there such thing as objectivity when you're talking about how fun a board game is? Obviously, your mileage may vary... and you must be driving a slower car than the rest of us.
Sick burns aside, i didn't play Carcassonne before shooting this video in the off chance there was some undiscovered fun to be had, because i was pretty sure i had drawn the correct conclusion. Even as i was setting up the game to photograph it, i had trouble putting the tiles together, since there were only ever a few legal places to stick 'em. It just confirmed how very, *objectively* right i am. ;)
I don't think this game is for you, because we love the game. Expansions really do add to the game. We (wife and I) prefer it as a two-player competitive game, which can get quite mean.
Oh, sure. It's obviously well-loved. i just don't well-love it.
Outstanding metaphor at the end. Not sending the aged war vet into battle! So good. You helped me examine some vague misgivings I had, and even though I still enjoy Carcassonne, I can see why you don’t.
I Disagree with you. But liked the video, very well expressed opinion.
Thanks for the review. One thing I did was scan the page from the rule book that has all the tiles and quantities and reduced to a nice size reference card and made laminate copies for player reference. Also agree about the expansions. They just add to to the luck factor even farther.
6:27 ohh I see it HYPERBUH
It is more a feeling that the tile must be there in the Stack. Not a knowing. And 90 i am right. When we play it. I think the first two big Expansions are a must.
Thanks for the nice review of Carcassonne. So I'm not alone in not grasping the magic of this super popular game. That is a relief to hear. Somehow I feel I'm somehow obliged to like this game given its enormous fan base.
By the way, how nice it would be if you did a similar Scrabble bashing video! I'm sure Scrabble is even much worse than Carcassonne. For example, I simply refuse to play with the Q included, as you always require an rare U as well, in the Dutch version in any case, but this probably holds up for English as well. It's a sad thing that there are no good word games.
Scrabble is kind of like chess. If you want to play well, you have to study. But then you put yourself in another league entirely, and if you try to play against casual players, they’ll get angry at you.
In English, there are about 10 words in the official Scrabble Dictionary that begin with Q without U, and one of the first things you do when you start to study the game is to learn those words. But if you foist QAT on a casual player and insist it’s valid and that it’s in the Scrabble Dictionary, they’ll get upset and say “well i don’t play like that.” Sigh.
Yeah, I agree very strongly with you regarding Carcassonne. I only keep it around because it's easy to play and people know it.
I like the game but I played it way too often back in the day.
It really does feel like we've evolved, doesn't it?
@@NightsAroundaTable Yes, it really does. And that's a good thing.
it seems insane to me that anyone would play with more than one or two expansions at a time and then complain that it's too much. If you don't want to be overloaded with rules and options, then don't overload yourself. I only own the base set and haven't even combined the abbot and river, we play them separately in my house. I'm looking forward to my big box arriving, so we'll be able to widen our options for playing, but we won't be throwing them all in at once.
My base set actually came with The River included, and i think it's safe to add no matter what else you're playing with, since it doesn't add any rules to think about - it just varies the layout. But i don't like the idea of designing a pile of expansions to a game that either a) can't be played together (that's the WORST) or b) shouldn't be played together.
I really like this series, wish there were more videos!
i'm working on it! :)
I really like this game but yeah sometimes it can cutthroat and my friends doesn't like it but i will give it 8/10 for me
I’m with ya, used to be fun but not anymore. However there are tile placement games with more control (like you always have 3 face up and can choose one like in gingerbread house) but I don’t reach for carcassone anymore but also refuse to get rid of it LOL
Weird how is has that hold, huh? i think i cribbed the 3-up idea from Planet, but it sounds like other designers came to the same conclusion.
I only enjoy tile placement when everyone has a personal board and there is more than one stack to choose from(like Castles of Burgundy or Rajas of the Ganges). This removes most of the (accidental) kingmaking and reduces the odds that you're randomly going to draw junk, as you have many options to choose from. The only tile placement I enjoy which doesn't fit that description is Patchwork, and I wouldn't enjoy that either if it wasn't both short and a duel game.
So interesting! i don’t event consider Burgundy a tile laying game, even though that’s quite literally what you’re doing. i think it’s because the tiles are all face up... you’re scheming to get a very specific tile, instead of grabbing a random surprise piece... and the tiles all have specific placement spots. You’re not really struggling to fit that tile into some jigsaw structure. When i think (disapprovingly) of tile-laying games, i’m thinking of games like Carcassonne, Explorers of the North Sea, and (shudder) ...Tsuro.
I just gave up on this game too though it breaks my heart cause this used to be one of me and my partner's favorite game. The game just didn't age well for me, it plays too long and no longer has that fun factor I get on other newer games.
You missed the fact that you can steal cities or fields as a “fun” trait. I recently played the Carc after 3 years of not playing, it was still pretty fun.
Sure! But the series is not called "Find the Reasonable Degree of Fun" :P
To avoid memorization: al the beginning, remove some tiles. And adjust the number of tiles to the number of players, that way no one will have an extra turn.
Yeah! That’s a good modification.
I can understand you don't like tiling games (especially with a common board to be built). But do you still don't like them when it's a personal board you are building ? such as Kingdomino or Glen More for example ?
Haven't played either of those, but it really depends. i don't mind the personal tiling in Princes of Florence (maybe because it's limited?), but not a huge fan of the personal tiling in Patchwork. And this, coming from a massive fan of Tetris. i am a complex animal.
Agree 100% with this video.
You and me, Jeff. Together, we'll run this town.
Great review
Good video but you're wrong😆Carcassonne has been stepped over in the race to play all the new games and It is extremely old in the modern boardgame community but I honestly can't think of a better tile playing game🙂✌
Right, but that’s a bit like being the world’s tallest dwarf. ;)
@@NightsAroundaTable Only if you don't like tile laying games😎✌
Hello, Ryan. I believe you've been expecting me (here, and BGG, whichever you see first).
Carcassonne: fun mechanics, easily learned, potentially cutthroat. You really want to play with people who have a similar approach to the interactive options, i.e. "take that!" I am not at all against having the list of tiles available to all players (I too suffer from a patchy short-term memory.) This was one of the first strategy games I would bring out when my kids were little. And, I usually eschew the farmer rules when teaching any new players.
I've played twice in the past year, and not for a year and a half before that. The most recent time, I came in last of three players, the winner being completely new to the game. I won't say he was entirely lucky, as he's got a head for these things, but I will say I was routinely unlucky. Too many turns the tiles came up in someone else's favor instead of mine. So, it doesn't get frequent play, but I do still *enjoy* it, for what it is. There are a lot of games that ride the fence of meaningful decisions and random chance, and this is still among the better of that lot.
All told, a solid 7 out of 10.
Incidentally, I played Ingress one warm season, many moons ago, until the snows fell and I had my fill. I played Pokemon Go for a couple summer months until my interest waned. I'm now playing Wizards Unite for, what, 2 and a half weeks? Yeah, the novelty is already wearing off.
Ha! i was wondering where you were hiding.
Why'd you mention Ingress? Did i mention i was doing some work with them?
@@NightsAroundaTable @6:25
@@NightsAroundaTable And... are you doing some work with them? I looked you up one time before I was aware of your video game work. Nice to have a diverse skill set!
Yeah... i design puzzles for their live events.
Loved your video...Agree with all your views....
Can you do a similar video for ticket to ride, pandemic and terraforming mars
Gladly!
@@NightsAroundaTable great...i hope to see them soon
This is a good video. An important video. A video every board gamer should watch at least once. I got about 1/3 of the way into this and got bored. This video replicates my experience with Carcassone precisely.
A video every board gamer should watch at least one third of once.
@@NightsAroundaTable So if you watch 1/3 three times, does that mean you've watched the whole video??? ;)
@@TabletopGamesBlog We've found the loophole, boys!
Hey I love you vid and I like board games so I subbed
thanks for subbing thats super good
Thank you for another great video, Ryan. I thin it depends on how you define fun. I can have a lot of fun with Carcassonne, but I don't expect a game with a lot of strategy or complexity. I expect a light game, that is easy to teach, quick to set up, relatively quick to play, and allows people who are new to boardgames a way into the hobby. However, given the choice between Carcassonne and Clans of Caledonia, then Clans wins. :)
Ah! Clans! Is THAT the tile-laying game ppl say is actually decent, and solves a lot of problems? i kept thinking it was Glen More (but i haven't played either of them).
@@NightsAroundaTable No, Clans is not a tile laying game at all. Clans is the Terra Mystica killer - or so people, and haven't corrected them so far. ;) I know, I'm comparing apples with pears...
@@TabletopGamesBlog Isn't The Gaia Project the Terra Mystica killer?
@@NightsAroundaTable Well, Gaia is the sequel to Terra really - while Clans has very similar mechanisms as Terra, but to me Clans' theme makes more sense, which makes Clans more fun for me to play than Terra - and it seems others feel the same and think Clans has solved a number of other issues that Terra is said to have.
I completely agree with how you judge Carcassonne; it was great back then, but doesn't hold its own against modern competition. However, I do get it out of the shelf quite often because many aspects of this game make it more attractive to my family members (aka co-players) than, say, Great Western Trail. My choice on these occasions is to either play Carcassonne or not to play at all (or by myself)...
i hear you loud and clear. My family will play low-time-commitment games with me once every couple of months - begrudgingly. When i was making the Ticket to Ride video recently, my daughter walked by and said "Oooh! What's that?" and i died inside a little.
We purchased a big box and play with limited expansions (River, Super meep, Abbot, Builders and Traders, Flying Machines) with friends and relatives...and play pretty cut-throat...except for the river tiles (which we keep stacked) we put all the other tiles in a bag to draw from because pulling from stacked tiles seems to lack a bit of randomness. Any more 'expansions' seems like overload or making things a bit too easy...and crazy trying to score and figure out some of the rules...the expansions we use are really great for potential conflict so that keeps the games lively. We're thinking of adding a 'jerk-face board' and after 10 moves that really hammer someone you get a couple of bonus points.
i think Jerk-Face variants should be standard in every board game.
I guess you don't like Galaxy Trucker then, Ryan...?
i've actually never played! But what i've heard from multiple people is that building the ship is fun, but watching it fall apart in the second half isn't. True?
It depends on what your idea of fun is! It can be frustrating, but the bad things are happening to everyone in the same way, so one minute you'll be clenching your fists and yelling "NOOO!" at the ceiling while your friends laugh, and the next you'll be laughing at them instead. It's always hilarious, but not very tactical, so it's maybe not a gamer's game.
@@chriswheeler5357 From what i can gleam, it sounds thematically similar to his other game, Space Alert, which (after one outing) my wife refuses to play with me. i think it's hysterical, but she doesn't like the pressure and pain.
Nice!
One Parker game that isn't drivel is Camelot.
I'm with you on Carcassonne but still enjoy other tile placement games. Especially if you're placing the tile on your own board like in Azul or Mad King Ludwig.
Also, the joy that comes with talking trash in Dominoes makes up for the occasional nimrod feeding other players. It feels like trash talking is not as acceptable in Azul as it is in Dominoes and is probably the lesser for it.
i trash-talk even when i know i'm going to rubbish at something. i think i just like insulting people. Pls send help.
The memorization makes the game great. It makes it a skill game. Hard to remember? Its only 19 different tiles. From 1-9 of each. And they can be grouped for easier memorization. Make and use a help sheet in the start, to learn faster. No problem.
At 2-player its a masterpiece with online, national and world championships.
Its unbalanced at 3-players. Pretty fun with four. Kingmaking? Well its really at 2-player the game is fantastic. Every game is unique. Its a constant blocking, challenging, optimizing, locking.
No I dont support the three tiles. Its amazing with one. In tournaments you can pull a new tile to look at while the other player decides. This is adviced.
I am a master strategy player in my country, with over 35 tournament wins in different games. Got over 200 board games. Carcassonne at 2-player is my favourite game. What I think about you? You dont want to know...
Its one of the five most played games every year for 17-18 years in row by the BGG users. Its superpopular at Boardgamearena and so is the app. The game is holding up great.
I've looked at the games at your channel. You love random, and we both know why... too small engine in the car...
Interesting that you would complain about the randomness in Everdell, but praise it in Carcassonne! If you're fine with memorization, i suggest memorizing the deck in Everdell, and you'll have a much better time with it. :)
i may have too small an engine in the car, but your need to attack my intelligence here suggests you have too small a penis in the pants.
Nights Around a Table In Carcassonne, every game is different. You have to adapt to this. The memorization done in Carcassonne is really super simple, let say, compared to openings in chess. You can't memorize the smartest moves, like chess. And this is great.
Carcassonne has been super popular since launch, both by competitive gamers like me and among regular gamers. Top 5 played every year of BGG users for 18 years straight. Of all games published you decide to attack one(1) game, and claim the memorization is too much, and it got kingmaking(!). You skip all tiles games? Cant do hills with you tiny engine... ;-)
We agree that Carcassonne is hardly chess!
i’ve played s few other tile-laying games, and i just generally don’t enjoy them. The most recent one was Explorers if the North Sea, which reminded me a lot of Carcassonne. That’s not to say i don’t like ANY games with tiles in them... i’ve seen Castles of Burgundy described as a tile-laying game, but i think that’s a stretch.
I like this channel and the reviewer seems like a nice guy but these "is it fun" segments, I suspect, are more about you not being open to enjoying a game from the outset.
I hated Dominion from a distance for the longest time, refused to even consider it. But then I reluctantly played it and found out that, in spite of it's hideousness and "lack of theme", it's a great game.
And some of these criticism are tantamount to arguing "soccer is a bad sport because you can't use your hands" or "sushi is bad because you don't eat it on a bun".
Finally, a criticism like "you have to have the tiles memorized" is, firstly, false, but secondly, familiarity with the random elements of the game that are drawn from decks or bags or tile stacks is literally in.... 80+ percent of all games in existence.
So do me a favor and issue a mea culpa: I don't like Carcassonne because of a strong bias I have that prevents me from enjoying it, I'm allergic to it more or less, and my opinion on it should be disregarded entirely.
Mea culpa: I don't like Carcassonne because of a strong bias i have that prevents me from enjoying it. i'm allergic to it more or less, and my opinion on it should be disregarded entirely.
Feel better?
@@NightsAroundaTable Yes! Thank you!
I would have changed the name of the channel to 'Gamers with small engines'.
Carcassonne SUCKS! I hate it, dumb boring game! We've tried it with several other people and everyone hates it. Its just so boring! If you play games like Kingsburg, Stone Age and Catan, you'll hate Carcus!
High five! Other people can (and do) enjoy it, but they can enjoy it over there. Waaaay over there.