Destiny 2 - NEW NIGHTMARE POWER! New Subclass and Nezarec's Return
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Nightmare Power and the return of a Final God Of Pain. The Final Shape mentions this and today we breakdown everything you need to know. Is another Darkness power on the way? And Will Nezarec return to lead a new army? He is alive, so Let’s discuss.
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Honestly, getting our 3rd Darkness Subclass, whether it be Resonance or Nightmare, would not only complete the trifecta, but also retroactively expand upon Prismatic, complimenting what Bungie has stated they'd do.
Considering what Eris and Micah have agreed on regarding Nightmares being an untapped power of Darkness, it makes sense that it would be a subclass.
Plus it would make 7 subclasses
That and the very important fact that a 3rd darkness subclass would bring the total including prismatic to 7, and why wouldn't Bungie make something 7 if they could. All the resonance souls that our enemies have hint at it too. Having to gather resonance for mechanic also feels like how we were introduced to stasis and strand. Now this requires spinfoil hat level dot connecting, but what if we were getting resonance instead of prismatic in the final shape and that is what led to the delay, they knew it couldn't be a flop. That alternate ending without Cayde's sacrifice had use light and dark in a way that looked less like prismatic and more like we forced something new with all of our power. What if the big delay was to re-work the story to gives us prismatic, something definitively more exciting than "just another darkness subclass to round out the mirroring of the light" now vs later, and resonance will come in Frontiers or the end of Hersey and we use it to take control of the dreadnaught and leave the system setting up D3.
imagine for a new “buddy” aspect on warlock using nightmare damage, instead of a turret it’s like a ghostly apparition that flies around and attacks enemies
Edit: and then it could also apply a new nightmare debuff (like jolt for arc or unravel for strand). i’m thinking something like “Paranoia” which causes enemies to attack each other rather than the player or something like that
I'd also hope it would mean new Darkness Supers for all three Darkness subclasses. Narratively, this would make sense. The light and dark saga may be over, but Final Shape only showed there is so much we have left to learn about Light and Dark. Maybe Osiris and the Dark Vanguard help us discover new powers of Stasis, Strand, and Nightmares later on?
Ooh give me Resonance. Would love to steal the tricks of those Witness followers, those black/orange spiralling constructs are nice... And as Callus showed, you can even craft weapons with it.
Nezarec: my memory will never extinguish in your darkest moments your deepest slumber you will remember me guardian
The darkness class theme seems to be CC, stasis slows movement/freeze and strand suppresses enemy damage/suspends. I would imagine this next darkness subclass will suppress abilities/blind or disorient.
I'm just hoping that if "Nightmare" is the next upcoming Subclass, that the Warlock gains minions that are just a part of the class package and not grenade-based. Running around with 2 Vandals sounds like fun (or other things). I'm just curious how they would make everything work.
Y E S. We need another creepy Darkness class. Strand is delightful, but I crave something with a little more... *edge*. Ideally, in time for Halloween.
You can't kill a thought. You can destroy it's flesh, but you can't kill the concept of though. That's what Nezarec is.
Don’t forget my friends. Light and its powers were broken up from the light like refractions but Darkness is always something that always there but unseen.
Nightmare may be our mind making power source buts its effect on us will be unpredictable.
I always thought it was weird we never got a third darkness subclass
Bathazar Bastion Bux. HE LIVES!! THE STORY NEVER ENDED!!
Imagine one of the supers just make enemies depressed and non aggressive towards you.
I just want Crown of Sorrow back
Nezerac is gonna come back as taniks. Calling it now
Still feeling an emptiness now that witness is dead
A summon sub class would be awesome
The final god of pain was the pvp sandbox team, facts.
Imagine bungie specs making doppleganger supers for nightmare subclass
It never sat right with me how we have 3 light classes but only 2 darks. I hope there will be one more.
Nezarec will be the new Taniks
im pretty sure that prismatic is the testing grounds for the so called destiny 3 rumors
the implication is that destiny 3 will be classless, mix and match
i really do hope for a third darkness class just so each side is even
Did I miss something didn't cayde sacrificed himself in the traveler to save our Ghost?can someone explain cause am pretty confused
forget the new subclass, i want to learn the power of Taniks plot armor
I have a feeling we will get the new Nightmare Darkness Subclass in Episode Herasy in the Dreadnaught as it has been changing by an Echoe and it obvious attracted some sort of a eldritch abomination
Whoever sees this, I’m gonna give you some cursed knowledge the exotic glave in the enclave cost of legendary shards still
Taniks has a rival
So Nezarec is the new Taniks...
The new taniks.
Nezarec is like that one spider you try to kill but it refuses to die
Fr, cause he is not gone
Remember his curse? It’s the one savathun put on him: his consciousness will always remain to his remains even in death
I can't wait till Nezarec fuses with Taniks
@@NoJamsJofinnExactly what I was thinking XD
You mean atrax?
That is horrifyingly accurate
I didn't see anyone else talk about this. I thought it went over everyones head
Same I was also wondering when someone was gonna talk about this.
People seem to be convinced the 3rd one will be Resonance based
Taniks: HE COPIED MY WHOLE FUCKING FLOW. WORD FOR WORD BAR FOR BAR
Lmao
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Nezarec could be the Freddy Kruger of the Destiny universe. So much potential, Bungie.
He could be....though.....if they go that route, I worry he'd turn into taniks 2.0
Like...oh boy......he's alive again...
That would require Bungie to put in some effort hahah.
@@JunkyardGodafter this expansion do you really think they wouldn't?
@roberttheronin9803 I haven't put any stock, faith, etc in Bungie in a long time.
I'm not a Bungie fan boy.
@@JunkyardGod It's not about being a fanboy. It's looking at patterns and having basic pattern recognition. You clearly lack both and just want to hate on the game , as if hating something makes you better than a fanboy.
Nezarec tryna beat Tanik's record for getting pwned by a guardian.
I mean he got beat in contest mode with 6 rat kings, which is honestly just embarrassing for a raid boss and a being that is the second most powerful after the Witness.
Didn’t it get solo flawless-ed on contest, too?
@@oryxthetakenking8275 *third, Nezarec was not as powerful as Rhulk, even if we ignore the upended.
@@mirrozerowho would be second and first then?
The person you replied to said that the order of strongest is
Witness, rhulk, nezzy
Seems spot on imo
Heres a bit of a stretch but bungie loves 7 right? We have 6 subclasses now. 3 light 2 dark and prismatic. It would make sense if they added a 3rd darkness subclass to make us have 7 subclasses 3 light 3 dark and prismatic, thats why i think there diving back into nightmares and nezzy
I think you're right
Is prismatic actually a subclasss or just a culmination of the other 5?
@@CayoBuay Both
I agree. However, my reasoning has been Destiny's writing has always dealt in themes of symmetry. There are three light subclasses, so there should be three dark ones. Also, this final dark subclass would justify Prismatic, and all darkness subclasses getting updates. For the darkness subclasses: new Supers.
@@garrettviewegh9028 this aswell it just makes sense, yknow
It’s cool that Bungie is acknowledging the theories that Nezerac may not be truly dead - we could use more Nezerac lore.
If Nezarec comes back, He should come back in a new body. My two cents.
We first got Rhulk, he never skipped leg day, then Nezarec, who never skipped arm day, and then the Witness who skipped both days. His next body may just him never skipping any days.
@@ZackagonXM Gigarec
I hope he comes back as a warlock or something similar to his original form but twisted!
@@ZackagonXMReminds me of when I saw someone named "Nezaripped, Final God of Gains"
Hopefully they keep his helmet😭
All I’ve wanted for the last few years now is The Witness’s golden “Resonance” powers 😢
thats pure darkness
That or this red nightmare stuff. Desperately need new enemy factions though. Gotta completely retire Cabal and Fallen at some point.
Cabal maybe, but there are too many fallen houses@@Kuhmodo
I think resonance falls under the same category as prismatic when it comes to elemental types.
Turns out it's solar.
I personally want to go overload, unstoppable or at least barrier.
11:40 bungie said it’s not the full conclusion of the light and dark itself, it’s just moving out of the main picture so that they can make room for more story with other themes like the nine, scorn, vex, etc.
hip hip
Aren't the vex technically the original creation of the darkness? Man I wish we get more vex content... I loved destiny story back when it was all still muddy and mysteriousчю... And the vex and the nine are still the biggest mysteries in the universe we know
@@Manny-fc8ym hooray!
@@urbansekkt6355As far as I remember unless retconned Vex are seperate from light and dark. Only the Sol Divisive follow the Witness. The Vex we've been fighting are a work force, the Vex military is unknown except for the Wyverns.
@@urbansekkt6355 the vex are the "pattern" that kept winning over and over in the original "flower game" (if we still believe unveiling). when the gardener and winnower "expanded" the game by creating the universe, the pattern somehow bled through from the previous game and formed radiolaria. the vex are an "expression" of the original final shape from past games.
Lets hope the Story in Nezarecs Sin Helmet will come true and Nezzy will be our real "enemy" in the future.
If you go into the veil containment room, from the room where you hear the lore. Look down through the window and you'll see three pillers (pylons?). One piller is marked blue another marked green and the last is marked red. I'm quite sure the red subclass exists.
We rarely ever have raid boss characters return. We will likely learn more about nezarec and nightmares. based off where the story is going we will likely explore the darkness more.
atheon oryx crota taniks tf u talking about 😂 calus like tell me u haven’t been playing the game at all without telling me. clown.
pantheon was that. the witness resurrecting old raid bosses
@@reggielacey2235 i feel like the witness resurrecting oryx wouldve been a much bigger deal for charcters like savathun and xivu arath tho lol
@@reggielacey2235 there was no resurrection going on with pantheon lol that was a vanguard simulation that shaxx was having us run to prep for the showdown.
Forgetting about riven huh?
imma just keep it real with everyone. The day bungie adds a 3rd darkness subclass whether it be nightmare or something else is the day I win the powerball, they hear us but they don't really wanna listen to us. and I don't think they will add on about Nezarec, we've seen the 3 episode previews and I doubt destiny 2 codename frontiers is gonna have a nezerec army in it, trust me I want all this stuff but bungie will not give us this stuff. they don't really listen all to well
they literality just made strand and then prismatic, one subclass each year for the last 2 years. Why wouldn't they continue to expand upon the class system? They'll keep adding new customisations to existing classes and adding new classes. They've been doing this since the game came out so what are you talking about
The subclass system we have right now will be different in 2-3 years time. And then in another 2-3 years from then it'll be different again. It constantly evolves.
Adding a new nightmare class just kinda makes the most sense so that the interface is balanced and symmertical, like 3 light 3 dark classes.
Nezarec’s Sin (and Nez himself) was one of the most enigmatic mysteries for like 8 straight years before they finally dipped into it. Assuming they won’t do these things next year is a very new light point of view.
If Mithrax learns how to control nightmares and memories due to his corruption would be very interesting since he's so aligned with the Traveller and light
In my opinion a Nightmare subclass would be the most likely new darkness subclass only behind a darkness subclass based on taken or Resonance powers.
Or Bungie decides to find a theme to compound all three into one single subclass?
I don't understand why people believe "nightmare" is more fitting than Resonance. We've only seen nightmare be used in one application, that being a security system. The nightmares are derived from Nezarek's personal psionic abilities, not so much a darkness element. However, we've seen resonance in mutltiple forms/applications. From relics, to abilites used by The Witness, Calus, and Rhulk. Used for sheilding, teleporting in Shadow Legion and Dread forces. Used in creating a *light suppressing* conduit. The Black Fleet used Resonace to shut off the traveler's death star ray and keep it contained. Resonance has also let us interact with and utilize Precursor/Pyramid architecture/tech.
In what world, what universe, what REALITY, is "nightmare" more fitting for darkness than what The Witness bleeds?
Imagine Guardians got to be Overload, Barrier and Unstoppable with some new twists added. It would be sick and the real “red darkness subclass” we’ve been wanting
They already are in Crucible Comp.
@@BungieStudiosbarrier and unstoppable are just purple titan, and overload are just hunter keep dodging every bullet, warlock are just those enemy falling into oblivion because they fail to do the jumping puzzle
If they added a third darkness subclass, it makes sense it would be nightmares. It fits the theme of Darkness being the powers of mind, and all the Darkness powers restrain enemies in some fashion. Stasis freezes enemies, Strand entangles them, and Nightmares would probably scare them to much to move or something (like Cynder’s fear element from the legend of Spyro: dawn of the dragon).
A third Darkness subclass would also mean there would now be seven subclasses, and Bungie likes adding the number seven wherever they can.
I don't understand why people think "nightmare" is more fitting. Resonance was used by The Witness, The Diciples, The Black Fleet. "Nightmare" doesn't even have a plausible name yet for the element. What empowers the Shadow Legion, and made constructs that suppressed light? Resonance. What element appears when The Dread spawn in? Resonance. What element has let us interact with and utilize Precursor/Pyramid architecture/tech? Resonance. What element shut off the light beam from the Traveler? Resonance.
In what world, what universe, what REALITY, is "nightmare" more fitting?
But that's pure darkness. We don't have a pure light subclass either
@@Machosause Nightmares are the mental encapsulation of darkness itself. The uncanny, the corruption of something sweet into something sinister.
Darkness is all about the mind. And nothing fits more than corruption of the mind in the form of nightmares.
I had a feeling that bastard is not dead, and will be returning. He’s like that one insect that will just not die no matter how much poison you give it… 😂😂
Taniks noise grow
Golgoroth howls louder
Taniks?
Might as well give taniks a ghost with how often he's returned 😂@@flamephoenix8413
he exist as long as people fear
I never noticed how the "tunnel" you pass through to the Darkness ship is a silhouette of a Ghost Shell.
As people probably mentioned, Bungie likes 7, so having a 3rd Darkness class would perfect the balance with prismatic acting as the center and 7th definitive subclass.
I'm game for new darkness
a third Darkness power would make sense because we got 3 types of Light powers why not 3 types of Darkness powers
The more i think about it, the more i agree that "Nightmare" could be a future Subclass. The real Question though is what would the supers and abilities be for each of the Guardians? What would the Melee be? Grenades? Fragments? Supers? And what kind of new Exotic Armor or weapons could we get that harnesses this new power?
Waiting for someone to talk about this. Those ghost missions set up so much about the future. The Eremis, Psion clone, xivu in the ascendent plain/dreaming city. Especially the nightmare stuff. They really letting us know that they have so much more in store for us
I think the new power will be control, or making copies of our enemies. Like the hunter can place sniper knightmares, and theyll you can change to what enemy race you want. Titans get the heavy stuff, like the shielded cabal. And warlocks get the normal stuff like acolyte or dregs, but can summon multiple.
I hope there is another darkness subclass soon for free
There’s no way they would make it free lol. I mean I wish, but they’re a company at the end. They have to make money.
But yeah I REALLY want a new darkness subclass soon.
For free is pushing it.
free? you wish
considering some ornaments cost 600 silver and you have to get 1000 silver just to get it i doubt it :(
You mustve just started playing nothing is free lmao
The third Darkness specific subclass would also make it 7 total if you count prismatic, which supports Bungie’s obsession with the number 7!
Has anyone seen the shader bundle thats super power themed? The last one colors doesnt match any of the current supers...
Just a thought but Bungie also loves the number 7, we are currently at 6 subclasses with Prismatic. JUST SAYINGGGG.
i wish they gave us the power to take instead. we already work with our past foes a bunch, so imagine freeing the ones who were taken and having them fight for us in gratitude. Imagine being able to throw blight balls, or make those blight spheres. Using those centurion blight balls, Titans using that shield bash, hunters making psion clones, warlocks summoning shadow thrall. it would be the coolest subclass ever!
In Buddhism, there are 6 elements; earth, fire, air, water, space and consciousness. In Destiny, we may attribute these to a subclass; fire to Solar, water to Stasis, air to Arc, space to Void and consciousness to Strand.
Consciousness might not be Strand, but given the Lightfall context, descriptions such as River of Souls, ClouDark and the Veil itself, consciousness seems to be represented by Strand. This leaves earth, and people have named such a potential subclass as Resonance. Alternatively, it might be assumed that Strand represents earth, even though it's a rather loose representation when compared to the rest. That leaves consciousness, which is a perfect fit for the Nightmare subclass.
Whether it's Resonance or Nightmare, I hope we'll get a 3rd Darkness subclass, because right now we don't have equilibrium / harmony as there are 3 light and 2 darkness subclasses.
This is kinda out there but wouldn’t a necromancy class be kinda cool? Not sure how it would fit as a dark subclass. But I’m just imagining hunters having the ability to possess enemies and jump around through them (like in dishonored), and warlocks being able to raise a certain amount of dead enemies for a short time and titans… be able to… do something cool as well… lmao.
So maybe I’m missing something but with the end of the raid and Cayde sacrificing himself and his light to bring our ghost back how does he still appear in some of these missions or am I overthinking it and they’re just out of order with the raid
Haven't done these missions yet but my god Micah-10's voice is awful. Nails on a chalk board awful.
Nezarec, Taniks, and Kelgorath, The Unkillable Trio gonna be the next raid bosses
That would be entertaining.
Imagine they get revived as guardians
Nezarec as a void Hunter
Taniks as an arc Warlock
Kelgorath as a solar Titan.
Don’t forget Fikrul, he has a episode 2 I think so he’ll be relevant.
I'd l like a new darkness class only cause prismatic felt hollow without a 3 to 3 match up and so things felt repeated too much
If there's a third darkness subclass I'm coming back to destiny.
Nightmare being our 3rd darkness subclass would complete the trifecta of Light and Darkness that feed into Prismatic now
All subclass also bear distinct idiologies
Light - Creation of matter through physical power that dies out
Solar - Burning and all engulfing
Void - Anti-Matter and Suppressing
Arc - Energy that spread out and through anything in its path
Darkness - Altering of matter through the power of the mind that remains
Stasis - Time altering
Strand - Matter being grabbed and wieved through ones understanding of the universes flow and state
Nightmare - Emotional manipulation through the understanding of someones burden
We know that Nightmares remain and theoreticly if the user chooses Stasis and Strand creations can remain for as long as the user wants to so it would fit the whole Light always creates something new but it eventually dies and Darkness takes something already existant and alters it
I’m fine with the final darkness subclass being nightmares over resonance. If you think about it, resonance is the ultimate darkness power just like terraforming is the ultimate light power. We can’t use the white terraforming power , only the spectrum from it, so it’s only fitting that be reflected with the darkness and resonance as well
Well, we "could" use just raw Light, worked against the Witness.
Just kind of a last resort "dumping everything I have left" attack that WILL kill your ghost. I'd imagine Resonance would end up the same, just overloading a Ghost with pure unrestrained Darkness and snuffing it out.
That was just concept art subject to change. The veil is the source of pure darkness and it is not the same color as resonance. It’s implied that resonance is the way that witnesses and it’s disciples uses darkness. Not pure darkness. Otherwise why differentiate from “darknesses”.
We should have got a third Darkness class before the final shape
It would make sense to have a third darkness power, because so far each darkness power is the opposite of a light power.
Solar - Stasis
Void - Strand
Arc - ???
Color theory, Nezarec, Ghost missions, and the fact that we currently have 3 light, 2 darkness, and prismatic subclasses, totalling 6, and Bungie loves the number 7, all point to Nightmares being the 3rd darkness subclass.
Color theory is iffy cause you can interpret the Pouka Pond pillows as red or pink. But in Calus' arena at the end of Lightfall, there's blue, green and red. So more likely than not.
Not to mention, the only two colors missing are yellow and red, and I dont think we'll be pissing on anyone any time soon
@@okamiexe1501 Aye man, Warlocks becoming piss benders would be the Destiny meme of the decade.
@@okamiexe1501yellow could be Resonance though. It’s gold, but that very close to yellow
@@nevermore7285 Gold is just fancy yellow, so yes
@@OS_Ninesor resonance the darkness the witness uses
Also I could see the plot line of nezarec using Osiris, since it was his essence that brought him out of his coma.
It's been talked about in game and by Bungie that Mithrax is still affected by the curse especially since he was working so much with the remains to make that essence for Osiris. So it seems he'll tie into future Nezarec content
stasis opposes solar, strand to void and what would opposed arc?
Personally I’d love to have a siva subclass 😂😂😂
Is it strife like nightmare subclass?
Imagine we get it directly from nezzy himself. Like he already enjoys watching the havoc we wreck on a daily basis, why not increase the chaos tenfold himself?
1. The subclass video was in a twab. 2. I think it highly unlikely that a third darkness subclass *doesnt* exist, because the player guardian is meant to represent the penultimate balance between light and dark. How can we be that if we have an inherent imbalance between the two within us, regardless of prismatic? It's also been postulated that each dark element is the backside of the coin to a light element. Solar and Stasis are one. Osiris likened Strand to Void if you listen to his analysis of each element near the pouka pond post lf campaign. A third could potentially be correlated to Arc in some way.
I've been saying this. But one concept I didn't think about was what would be the opposite of prismatic
So yeah two more subclasses coming soon😅😅😅
It’s likely that Resonance could be correlated to arc in that they’re conceivably two sinusoidal forces of different types. Arc is a sinusoidal electrical force (at least where alternating current is concerned). Resonance is a sinusoidal mechanical force. Similar yet completely different.
@MYDOMAIN002 that would just be all the sub classes separated again...
@@MYDOMAIN002 Kinetic
the other two """darkness""" subclasses have both been something they just pulled out of literally nowhere tho
solar counters stasis
arc counters strand
i guess nightmare counters void
i have a feeling this was all planned
YES red subclass THATS WHAT I NEED
Enjoyed it, I'm just wondering what they are truly trying to express with this game.
You have consciousness, even digitized, which is too crazy to me.
A conscious AI, that learned like a developing [CHILD].
Prediction engines.
I sit here and go, if all of that existed, what would we actually be...if we knew we lived in a future where consciousness can be placed into a machine, we accept we are just code or I mean the algorithm (which is true in a way).
But we need to prove we are more complicated than that...
That's why we need to look closer, soon, at Osiris's actions...not really from CoO but that is part of it.
Understanding nothing, creating a point of nothing, creating a thing that exists yet doesn't...why?
Because humanity, capturing nothing in a digital space, and being able to live as many lives as you want until you are desensitized to literally everything, and face erasure of memory.
Wait until you realize that everything is digital/information based in nature, besides the source of consciousness and evolution.
If you’re genuinely concerned about this then you should check out Tom Campbell PhD’s kinda humorous book trilogy “My Big TOE” where he describes his Big Picture Unified Theory of Everything where he covers exactly this dilemma.
A “digital” “artificial” consciousness is the exact same thing as us but in a different configuration. A computer can be spiritual as spirituality is the degree in which you organize your consciousness and a computer that has been occupied by a consciousness could do the same.
@@phillemon7664 there's plenty out there about the subject, it's literally everywhere, and in plenty of media. I think it's honestly the universe's consciousness trying to reveal itself, or peeling the veil back.
My biggest issue was...freewill and how it would be defined, but I guess that's what the veil is, data plotted yet out of sight. People were glimpsing the future data through prediction engines, the taboo...and it wasn't set in stone, humanity could win or lose.
Anyways, there is plenty on the subject, plenty of reasons I don't view reality or people as real things.
@@phillemon7664 but was it a bad thought? Lol
Good to see my boy making his come back!
I believe I should update my theory vid now.
prismatic need to be complete with it prismatic 3.0 update since prismatic is still missing alot
Imagine if Nightmare's ability was just to make holographic decoys of yourself like in Halo: Reach. That would be so dumd. ❤😂
Somehow, Nezareck returned!
Let's be honest. We were all wondering where Eris was in the Excision mission...
I want my hive subclass
Oh that is Cool
Nezarec is stupidly broken.
Remember, even when he was dead he appeard for some reason in the vex network.
So for what i see in the lore and the game i could say that as long as there is even the slightest information from Nezarec, he will always return.
Pls nerf Nezarec.
Honestly I still think Siva makes the most sense, given the way the story has been going so far with the Witnesses death, but honestly nightmare powers makes a lot of sense too, but what could you actually do with them? Hmmmm….
I mean the leak was red just like the nightmares. I feel like it’s probably coming eventually. They might have just went with prismatic instead.
Just hoping Taniks keeps himself out of it
Lmao that guy ,use the contra infinite lives code.😂
As always great video! I was thinking nightmare subclass going through the ghost missions myself! Would make sense and even everything out!!!
So Nezarec is basically Sephiroth. Living on through memories.
i'm sorry but nezarec is just going to turn into taniks 2.0. he's not that intimidating to me. yes it's scary he can do the freddy krueger thing, and if i lived in the universe and was not a guardian i'd be afraid of him, but he's been cucked by the witness, savathûn, the guardians, he's just kind of a jobber at this point. he's some guy we're told is "THE SUPER DUPER SCARIEST END OF ALL THINGS" just so something else can come along and curbstomp him to show how powerful *they* are. worf effect in action.
we just ripped apart a billion soul collective that's been effortlessly dominating every single thing it runs into for billions of years. it's going to take something very big and very scary to seem like a challenge, honestly.
Nezzy is alive!?!
Finally someone does a video on that mission mentioning Nezerac
I think it'd be interesting, but they wouldn't call it Nightmare, or any of the other theories. They'll call it something else with an "S" because we have Stasis and Strand. They left a lot to be theorized as I, personally, would like the third darkness subclass to be a Taken power. The ending cinematic of The Final Shape tell us that the Taken are just wondering around without any purpose, or LEADER. So, my thought was, well... what if the guardians can become the Leaders of a small faction of the Taken. Now that we're friends with the Cabal, Hive, and Eliksni... it'd be interesting to turn the Taken to our cause. I've also heard SIVA being theorized, which would be an interesting subclass, but not sure.
Also, with what Osiris taught us about the philosophy of Stasis and Strand, we could try looking at the philosophy of the 3rd subclass. A force that's to be the opposite of Void, generally a subclass focusing on togetherness, or pulling everyone in... we could look at something that would be the opposite: Alone, Loneliness, Solo... pushing everyone away.
Another thought is Stasis and Strand have one similar philosophical aspect that's not talked about enough, which is why a Taken subclass could make sense: Stasis is the ability of taking ones Will away from them, Strand is/was advertised to take control of our enemies reality/fate/destiny, the third subclass could be on a greater scale... Taking one's world.
Idk if you'll see this Evaze but I believe Nightmares and Resonance are actually one and the same
As they both: Share Gold, Black, and Red Coloration
Both Deal with Pressure onto it's foes
Nightmares feast on Trauma
Resonance literally suppresses you (i.e Grim, Rhulk resonance blasts, etc)
As well as both having ties to only the strongest wielders of Darkness
As a Warlock main whose had a Nezarec's Sin void build since Season of Arrivals and a player who was pretty disappointed with how Nezarec was utilized in Lightfall, I would ADORE Bungie utilizing him again post Final Shape! The concept of a "Final God of Pain" is so interesting and all the build-up he got in the seasons before Lightfall made it seem like he was going to be way more important to the story than he actually was. With how the narrative has turned around since then, I'm really excited for the potential return of Nezarec. Give this man an expansion worthy of his title!
NIGHTMARE NECROMANCER CLASS! That's what I'm desperately hoping for. I want it to be a mix of Necromancer from Diablo 4 and Necromancer from ESO mixed with Mastermind from City of Heroes.
Resonance won't be a darkness subclass just like light isn't one on itself. Nightmares? Maybe, but you know what I'd love? Taken subclass. Ultimate Uno reverse on the hive which got the light. I think what's likely since we've got access to the Dreadnaught and Oryx's corpse. Also just how cool would that be? Titans doing that taken phalanx push, summoning swords, Warlocks making those taken eyes and blights. Literally the coolest thing ever
I think Aztecross specifically asked about that clip, with the "red" subclass. He said: "Bungie communicated with me about the "red" subclass, it doesn't exsist." Is this 100% conformation...? No. Just throwing it out there ^^
Would love to see Daddy Nez again. His voice actor is right next to the Witness for me. Right above Rhulk.