This is the Problem with Fake Collectors!
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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A fake comic collector is some who claims so and owns not one comic
I'd agree with that. If someone claims to be a collector, but has actually collected nothing, then they are indeed a fake collector. Thanks for watching and commenting!
When folks were getting free stimulus money they were I mena the fake collectors were buying and buying all these key books. Then when the market started to correct loosing even half of that so called money you put in didn’t hurt your pocket book at all. But if you worked for say 5,000 the thought of dumping your book I feel it slipped to say 2500 is a bitter pill to swallow you follow... This is what happened
I hear you and agree that people getting caught up in hype and FOMO made some poor financial decisions with all that stimulus money and artificially drove up comic prices. I still don't think I'd necessarily call them "fake" collectors, but more like "foolish" ones. Certainly a lot of them got burned really bad and hopefully they've learned their lessons!
This is crazy. Lol cool video bud. Thanks for sharing 👊
Thanks man! I always appreciate the support and comments!
Man I love this channel. Great advice.
Thanks man! I appreciate the kind and encouraging words!
Another awesome, relevant video! I have a good friend who I have known for 12 years, who is also the store manager for my local comic shop. We have hugely overlapping interests in terms of the comics we like. But how we like to collect them...oh man, we do not see eye to eye. For example, my graded copy of Fantastic Four 72 that I sent to CGC about 10 years ago. He just can't fathom why I would send my comic to CGC and seal off forever the ability to see the gorgeous Jack Kirby art of the Silver Surfer. However, he doesn't hate...he simply doesn't understand the appeal. (He reads over 50 books a month.) He's even cost his store a lot of business by not selling graded books. I tell him "it's not that your customers don't care about CGC books...it's all the people that DON'T come in here because you don't sell them." I even sold him a spare copy of X-Men #142 (CGC 9.4 WP) once, and that book sold the same day he put it out, despite the hefty price tag he put on it (25% over GPA, which he obviously knew nothing about until I told him).
Bottom Line: Different strokes! If someone is looking to get into one of the best hobbies out there, incredibly rich with history and lore (inside and outside the pages), don't preach to them on how to collect, just offer advice if they ask! Sure, if you see they about to do something foolish, maybe offer some unsolicited advice on avoiding newbie pitfalls or scams if they want to spend for some sought-after back issues. But even that is a judgment call, you know? Keep up the great topics!
Thank you! And, you make some great points to add to the conversation. Different strokes for different folks is exactly right, and I think it's awesome how many ways there are to enjoy this wonderful hobby. Btw, FF 72 has one of my favorite Kirby/Surfer covers...I don't blame you for getting it slabbed!
As for my collecting style, I have about 6,000 raw comics, many of which I have read, some not. Also 400 CGC books, over half of which I bought new off the rack or shelf as a teenager and sent off in my 40's and 50's. It's cool to know I can look up a comic I bought for $0.60 and see that it's considered one of the major keys of the late bronze age and is worth over 2,000 times that original cost. Even with the $40 to grade it, ship it, insure it, etc. still gives me validation that I wasn't completely stupid hanging on to stuff -- and even 45 years ago, thinking to obsessively preserving their condition. I do still read some new stuff, but some I just like the cover art. I also love Marvel, John Byrne and Michael Golden, and I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for the 1977 24-issue Godzilla series, as well as early Micronauts, ROM, Shogun Warriors, and yes even Human Fly. I've even recently gotten into Spawn! Issues 1-6 were awesome, so I had to have a CGC 9.8 of issue #1! If you've gotten this far, I appreciate you reading this ramble. That's my jam!
Thanks for sharing a little about your collecting style! That's cool that you worked to preserve their condition when you were younger...I wish I could say the same about the comics I bought as a teenager, lol. I've been putting together the ROM run myself...it's very affordable and I really like a lot of the covers.
This was really well explained.
Thank you! I appreciate it
Bro got philosophical AF 😂
🤣🤣🤣 that's how I roll, lol
It is the same in the card collecting community, my friend
Some I’m only collect graded - some like the raw- some like vintage some like new
Some like red and some like blue 🤣😂🤣👍🚂🚂
I hear that. One of the things I love about collecting communities is how there are so many ways to collect. It's cool to see how different things appeal to different people. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Collect what you like. For someone to accuse another collector of not being authentic is wrong. I think Tammy Faye Baker had her face slabbed in make up! Thanks for sharing another thought provoking episode and Good Collecting 👍❤️
Thanks man, and I totally agree! And, love the call out of Tammy Faye, haha. Man, she had a lot of makeup, lol
What a fantastic social philosophical topic. Thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for the encouraging comment!
The fanatics would hate me. I've read probably only about 15% of the comics in my collection. I got back into comics 2 years ago after 29 years off, and I've just been on a mission to catch up. I've added more than 6000 comics to my collection in that time. No slabs though, so I guess I would get credit for commandment #2. lol
Only 15%?!?!?! I can feel the fanatics anger from over here, haha. That's awesome that you've been able to add so many comics to your collection in such a short time. Thanks for watching and commenting!
4:16 bag and board their comics😂 I’m sorry I’m sorry let go back to the video 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 It would be fun to have a "True Collectors *fill in the blank*" poll sometime
Down with Wahoo, the false god!!!! Hahaha
🤣🤣🤣 Blasphemer!
Can't stand gatekeepers. I like how you tied it to religion, because like religion, some people can be so extreme they try to force their views onto others. It takes so much energy for people to be negative rather than just let people collect what they love and collect how they want. I've seen someone argue against using the word "community" with collecting. He twisted himself into so many pretzels trying to justify it. Great video with nuggets of wisdom 🤘
Thanks man! That's wild to me about someone arguing against using the word "community". And, yeah, there's nothing wrong with having views/preferences, but the problem comes when you try to force those on others like you said. Thanks for watching and commenting!
So different from speculators that don't really care about the books?
As for replacing the old gods with new I've thought for a while most people need something. They have rejected Christianity but now need to belong. Its been transferred to there sports team, music or whatever. Back in the 90's England I've had some hairy moments being in the wrong place with the wrong shirt. It's really was like a religious fanaticism with some.
Yeah, if there's someone who acknowledges that they are only buying comics like stocks and have no interest at all in the books themselves, then I'd agree they are not collectors. My hope is that person would not claim the label of collector, but would instead call themselves an investor. Perhaps I'm naive, though, lol. That said, I do think collectors can speculate.
And, I think you are exactly right in how people have transferred their religiosity from Christianity to other things. I personally believe the need to be religious (to belong as you said as well as the need to give ourselves to something bigger than us) is within all of us, so the question is not *if* we will "worship," but *what* will we worship.
Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment!
There's no such thing as a "true collector" it's meaningless.. people collect things for their own pleasure in whatever way they like. I couldn't care less about what some random stranger thinks about how to collect comics! I love my comics. End of.
Exactly! I agree 100%. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Strange topic and perspective! 😅 I've never heard the term "fake collector or collect"? It sucks that you've had interaction with these kind of people!! We should always inspire each other. Now, I am a purist and Kate and believe it's bringing a downfall of comic collecting but that's my personal belief. Although it does bring me joy to see others happy in any way they collect. God made us all as unique beings. So like you stated we don't want to be carbon copies of each other. Sorry for the long comment be my passion got the best of me 😅
I love the passion! I think it's great that you're able to be a purist while at the same time finding joy in how others find happiness in how they collect. Like you said, God made us all uniquely, so we should seek to inspire, as well as respect, each other. Thanks for the comment!
Thou shall not slab , bwahaha, CGC is basically an attempt to make the hobby fund itself.
You're not wrong, haha
You have some great points. Comics are elevated too much, especially the spec books. I buy a lot of comics that I had read in the 80s and 90s but I dont read them again when I buy them today. I buy them only to finish a set OR get a better copy of what I already have, etc. If I have read 10% of a series, such as Usagi Yojimbo, I will still buy any comic I find from that series if I want the set.
Thanks! Finishing a set is so satisfying and one of my favorite things to do in the hobby. Thanks for watching and sharing a little about your collecting style!
You or youtube atuo-removed my comment -and you think cooperation and amicable communication is possible in the former-USA?
You are delusional. Social media is all about enabling and perpetuating only the 'entitlement' to act 'upset', mean, alienating, isolating towards anyone 'different' -this is how the internet is designed.
We have had no other advancement in tech the past thirty years other than a tiny screen used to avoid eye contact with others around you so you can gossip and only be exposed to software that caters to your 'entitled' comfort zone, and if anything is 'different' like a proud 'american' that likes to think the USA still exists you then reject.
I had to break my comment down as a comment for each sentence below -this is youtube, fu(king bull$hit -you know the you-s-a is an evil entity, it is a fake country run by these cens0r!ng social media scum yet you ask for cooperation -you are delusional, we live in an evil entity designed to keep people separate surrounded by asphalt and traffic. The search results here dont lie, shill city is yoo+oob.
I certainly did not remove any comment. I'm still able to read yours from my phone. Anyways, I understand what you are saying in your comments and partially agree but I think they actually support my claim that as people move away from the old gods, then they will embrace the new gods as you and the others you criticize ascribe the attributes of divinity to UA-cam/social media. Those who are enslaved to technology have certainly made it their god, but I would suggest that you have also given it the power of a god with your claims of how it shapes people. Because you seem to see it as satanic in nature, though, you reject it as a false god. However, I see technology as mostly a tool that amplifies what is already in the heart of a person. For those who worship the self, then it feeds into the things you are rightly concerned about. For those who worship something outside the self, then it has the ability to enhance that worship. Anyways, there's a lot more to be said than can be done in a few sentences in a UA-cam comment section. Despite the anger you direct towards me in your claims of my delusionality, I appreciate your comments as they clearly are thought out.
@wahoocomics you are totally off, -this "technology" of censoring has nothing to do with any thing that "amplifies what is already in the heart of a person" -whether you are all about "the self" or not. Your saying that by having my comments muted and making sure that I am not noticed online with algorithms that only support shills and sellers and gossiping entitled bigots, that is supposed to be someting that "amplifies what is already in the heart of a person".
We are supposed to be surrounded by asphalt and traffic and remote everything and hate and alienation and isolate each other since there is more ROI than anything brick n mortar, from datamining what people do online for social engineering how well we can save and develop pavlovian responses all of which has nothing to do with your b.s. delusions. Computers are for a control state, nothing else. You are lucky -that's it.
As well keeping most of this fake country as a place for people to be isolated surrounded by asphalt and traffic is so the real estate value of the places where venture capitalists live (on the boasts and in major cities) is maintained if not increased -the yoo-s-a is a fukn evil scam. There is no reason more cities in the Mid West are not livable, except for the fact that we live in a fake country where improving anything is a taboo concept -unless it has to do with a tiny screen that is used to avoid eye contact and alienate others 'different'. There is no hope. There are only the shills that dominate search results =that's it, that's the internet, no improvement, just gossip and people that play head games and censor any point we try to make -yootoobs algorithm is fukn EVIL -I would never tell anyone new to comics to check out yootuoobe no fukn way...
And dawg, G'money, thaz sum dope rhetorical rederick lol: "then they will embrace the new gods as you and the others you criticize ascribe the attributes of divinity to UA-cam/social media" Nope, that sum funny b.s. wak hook lmao! wtf lol! did you not just pay attention to what I justtha'fuk lmao!! divinity of my farts up that nose of the alogorythmic aroma like Moses robe after he walked across the bottom the muck tha Red Sea like swimn in tha Sound by Tacoma (poor guy), that social media behind the curtain, it's dreck, has no longevity, you are applying the concept of a grain of sand to an antelope's dingleberry that flies off and lands on the cheetah's nose its really annoying for a min but it's just that, part of the anti-culture that makes up this fake county. ...This isn't is, this is no religion, this is spaztarded to the mazizoom dweebie, w/all the limitations and compliances and "potential" violations, some chumps think they are going to gain ad rev to pay for their gas thafuk, wouldnt matter yet these fukn douchebagshillbitxz are the dominant form of info onzda tooltoobzez -it's very Z'illennial in general to be about 'im sorry that you feel that way' and 'oh well thats yr choice' lack of compromise or cooperation, this $hit caters to that here, from Bush's "If you see something, say something", or Oboma's "safe space" 'entitlements', post patriot act and on and on we're fukd, this is a platform dev environment for games, predictive analytics, social engineering, lick a Like or suck a Sub lmao! I dont know scratch n sniff too maybe lol!
You are absolutely right as always,, perhaps you should do some vids on other hobbies like cards or toys. It’s time to stop gate keeping what is technically art created for everyone
Thank you! I actually meant to talk about cards in this one, but it slipped my mind when I was recording. When I was talking about how some people feel like you need to read comics to be a true collector, I was going to mention that you don't have to read every stat on the back of a sports card to collect sports cards. Anyways, I really like talking about themes that can be applied across many hobbies, so I'm glad you see the connections. If I can remember, I'd love to talk more about other hobbies as I'm talking about comics in future videos.
Great video: the best I've seen. I can be a bit of a zealot about golden age books. Nice to have a live and let live attitude.
Thanks man! I really appreciate the kind and encouraging comment. Not sure about you, but I've also gotta be careful not to become too much of a UVA zealot, especially when the Hokies are in town, lol.
Haha
I'm glad this gave you a laugh, haha!
Interesting and funny. Nice vid 👌
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Agree! To each his own.
Exactly! 100%
Great video. False Prophet with your commandments!! 😂😂 j/k. Great job as always. Some people are just miserable and want to make others miserable so they bash people who don’t conform to the way they think a collector should act. Collect whatever you want. If it brings you joy, makes you happy that’s what matters. It’s always interesting to see different ways people collect. Some like slabs, some only raw books, some only a particular character or book run etc. Anyway have a great week dude. Be well. -Dave 🤙
Thanks man! And, yeah, I need to be burned at the stake, lol. Also, it is definitely true that there are miserable people who take their anger out on others (I might make a video on that one day, haha). I also agree that it is interesting to see the different ways that people collect. It reveals a little bit about each person! As always, thanks for watching and supporting!
@@wahoocomics 😂. 👍👍
I only collect golden age comics, and i do it for the art in the covers. I never read them cuz truthfully old comics aren't very good. i also do it because the appreciate in price better than the rest, as a type of investment
Nice! I think it's cool how there's so many to collect comics. And, I agree that Golden Age is generally better investment wise and has so many awesome, fun covers.
I agree that everyone should collect how they want to.
I also have been one of the Anti-Slabbers in your comments. lol. I'm not against anyone wanting to slab their books I would rather take that money and buy a book that I don't have instead of giving it to CGC or CBCS (I do think the grading companies are a bunch of crooks though. LOL - I just had to get that shot in there) To be honest I will soon have a graded book in my collection. I won a McFarlane Spidey #1 at a claim sale Today.
Keep up the great work....I always enjoy your videos.
Thank you! And, hopefully this was clear, but although I know that you are a raw collector from your comments, you've shown nothing but respect for people who collect differently, so I don't put you in the category of people that I'm warning against here. Also, I must admit that CGC has come off more like a crook lately, haha...especially now that they are all of a sudden passing out more 9.9s. It's definitely soured me on them a good bit. And, congratulations on your Spider #1 win! I remember that being such a big book when I was a kid, lol. As always, thanks for your kind and encouraging comment!
Sounds like cope.I don't like any of you collectors.
The people who actually read the stuff like me Love hearing the prices skyrocket when you try to get a back issue looking to complete a story to read But scalpers jump up because only collectors waste money Like that
Or encouraging bad Behavior like variant covers Something that should have died a long time ago. Or the constant number ones
Or bad story lines or Concepts more money than they should Oh because That's the issue Some Terribly made spider man oc appears Gotta collect the first Appearance even though they might never be seen ever again.
Dear Bishop Ironbay of the Church of the True Collector, I repent on behalf of the collecting community of our bad behavior and poor financial stewardship. May Stan Lee give us the strength to resist the sins of collecting first appearances, variant covers and numbers ones.
A collector is someone who collects comics.
No reading required.
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A reader reads comics, no collecting required.
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A comic seller sells comics, no reading or collecting required
Exactly! 100%
It's refreshing to see diversity in the comic book community. Not everyone has to collect or enjoy the hobby the same way. Much like in a regular church you see people of all ethnicities and walks of like. Regardless of whether you believe in speaking in tongues or the rapture or some other aspect of faith that might differentiate you from your fellow brother at least you can both can agree in having faith in Jesus. You can collect covers, the next person only collects keys and I could collect to read but we can all agree we like comics.
I wish I could heart this 100 times, because I agree 100%. Perhaps the comic collecting community would be served well by reading I Corinthians 12 and its comments about how we are all one body, even if we look and function differently since we are different parts of that body.
@@wahoocomics I was actually going to comment about "the body" but I wasn't sure if the reference would be understood but I can clearly see you read the word. I was thinking about the Pharisees when you were talking about people in the community saying you have to read all the comics in your collection etc. Because the Pharisees put all kind of burdens that were not part of the law on the Jewish people but yet they didn't follow all of the laws to a T themselves.
@@collectiblestoastonish Great connection with the Pharisees! I wish I had thought about that before, because I would've included it in my video, lol. And, yes, I am a practicing Christian, so not only are we brothers in comics, but, more importantly, it sounds like we are brothers in Christ!
Sort of similar, but along with comics, I enjoy collecting pop and rock albums from the 70s and 80s era... But I don't own a record player and don't want to. I just like albums for artwork covers and nostalgia. Fellow collectors find me odd I don't play them 😆.
That's a great parallel to what I'm talking about here! Thanks for sharing! It's fun to hear how how different parts of hobbies appeal to different people.
Just live and let live.
Exactly! 100%