Oh, but there will be. Look at how BLAZINGKNIGHT spelled his name in the timestamps. "Macca Love" Dude is bringing Shin Megami Tensei into this. Makalov finna get done in by demons!
@@wisewolf7388 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@@orangeslash1667 Ah, so from what I'm hearing, it's a case of Nintendo wanted the game out and thus cut out so much story, making the narrative's execution mediocre.
the more insteresting part of that fact is you learn it when she fights Lekain in Radiant Dawn, just before she Murders his sorry ass, Supremely satisfying if ya ask me. Still should have wound up with Gatrie instead of Makalov.
@@philipcharpentier-havill801 not like gatrie is a much better partner either (refferring to making astrid "his" and then proceeding to laugh creepily)
Delta kai09 yes we all know Faye is essentially not a character but at the very least Celica had a decent start and an alright backstory. She only took a nosedive once she screwed Alm over whereas Faye was garbage from the beginning
@@alanzapreservationtheythem2861 celica never screwed over Alm. In fact she saved his life from Nuibaba's spell in act 4 and gave him a way to promote so he can be stronger. Do people even read the story? Celica haters are so vocal that they start twisting the story in their favor.
Funny how you mention that the one interesting thing about Garon was that he 'used' to be a good man but the game never shows any sign of that. The manga actually shows that a part of his old self is still there and fighting to regain control of himself from Anankos. It's only for a moment and unfortuantly the manga may not continue but it was still nice to see that.
@@opalyasu7159 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@Orange Slash I'd love to get my hands on that original script and dedicate time to making a rom hack with the original story intact, properly edited to fit gameplay and pacing. I reslly love Fates, ironically not becuause it's good(gameplay is fun even though BR is too easy and CQ is too difficult), but because it's a reslly good case study of a solid game with a _horrible_ story lol I love it to death because it's so easy to tear apart lol
@@TheQuashingoftheTub I would also be into this, I wanna see the original, before it got torn to pieces for... Frankly, not even particularly good reasons
Yes, let the Makalov hate flow through you! Very satisfying to see Marcia getting revenge on this chowderhead. Great video BlazingKnight, and I'm glad I could help out with voicing Validar. It was a lot of fun to do.
after seeing #2 I was like... WHOO... WHO THE HELL IS WORSE THAN IZUKA (that disgusting disease of a character)... then he mentions Makalov and I was like..... oooh yeaaah him. Yeah that actually makes TOTAL sense.
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
Since Dorothea and Ingrid are establishing themselves as two of my most favorite characters for Three Houses I'm feeling the young nobleman at the center of the Paralouge involving them will be character-wise an egotistical perverted piece of crap who thinks he can toy with Dorothea's emotions since she's in love with him, and marry Ingrid breaking Dorothea's heart just because he's a noble.
Corrin is far more interesting to me in Conquest than in Birthright or Revelation because he/she's actually the Camus of that version. I know that people assume because Xander is Birthright's Camus that Ryoma should be Conquest's by default, but in reality Ryoma has absolutely no reason to join you or sympathize with you. Meanwhile, Corrin tries to avoid non-necessary deaths while fighting for Garon and should have been on Hoshido's side or with nobody because the third options doesn't make much sense for a main Lord. Unless, like I said, Corrin is actually a Camus main character.
@Anti-Dumbsville the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
Ah, Stella... no only had your name changed to Astrid for absolutely no reason whatsoever, you were the indisputable best archer and one of the best mounted units in your debut game, with great support with Sothe and a rather tragic backstory, considering you were supposed to marry Lekain, making your decision to run away and join a war you had no business in, but quickly leveling up and growing to be an integral part of the team for many players all that more compelling, only to be completely cast aside as a delusional battered house wife to a good for nothing drunk gambler and a rather useless unit whose Elite/Paragon skill and even data transfer stats increase aren't enough to make you a valuable unit or character... Why must she suffer like this?
Not Much, Luck determines Accuracy, Evasion and Enemy critical by one point each, Some skills are activated my it, devil axe backfire rate and in three houses, increased critical chance.
Give Camilla credit, she had an abusive family who shuttered them from society and especially kept Corrin isolated. Growing up in such a gloomy and hostile environment, she felt the need to be a glimmer of hope for her own family. So I can see reasoning for her being so doting and affectionate. Faye just loves Alm.... because.
I agree despite her corrin obsession she does have an interesting backstory and is shown to be doting towards others, not just corrin, as well as a very sadistic side which makes her more three dimensional.
I feel like RD did Meg and the entire Dawn Brigade dirty with absolutely no character development. I kinda liked Izuka since his actions make more sense when you take into consideration that he's not really on Daein's side. And you get to kill him which was great. For Makalov... Yeah at least you get some free stuff from him.
In my opinion Faye's overall appearance is what makes her more of a terrifying character. I mean at face value she seems very approachable and welcoming, only to realize to late the underlying insanity within. Camilla and Tharja's appearances match well to their personalities, and highlights their occupation and intimidating demeanor that makes them seem dangerous. That doesn't mean Tharja nor Camilla don't have their soft sides if someone looks deeper, but their more darkest behaviors are displayed upfront, that show's honesty and open they both are in truth to their nature. Faye, is the equivalent of a psychopath hiding her real nature, appearing as a 'normal' village peasant woman that any poor soul, especially Alm, can asossiat with, only to realize too late the obsessive, harsh monster that lies within.
Faye and Lukas(My BOOOOOOOOOOOOY-) are drastically and really well written sociopaths. The main difference though is the writers know Lukas is one, and write around that while making him a sympathetic and good person _AND_ character, while with Faye, the writers don't seem to realize she's a sociopath and forgot to actually write around that lol They somehow wrote a Horror antagonist without noticing.
Gannon is the worst to me since of the waisted potential we could have seen what he was like before being turned evil and we would have known why Xander respects him also imagine when you fight him his realself comes out and thanks Corrin and the others for saving him that would have been much better in my opinion
Sean Reviews especially in Revelations where the hoshidan royals get to talk to Mikoto and sumaragi but what do the nohr royals get...nothing like come on it doesn’t take a genius to think that maybe the nohr royals could have a moment too
long, dumb Xander apologist essay ahead: I don't know about Xander respecting him- I haven't finished playing Conquest yet, but the way the Nohrian siblings all talk so casually about potentially being killed for disobeying (a scene comes to mind, maybe around Ch 14. where Xander immediately volunteered to be executed instead of Corrin) makes me think Xander, Camilla and Leo are constantly walking on eggshells, giving the impression that they're obediently following Garon's every order. I can't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that Xander thought his father was the most terrifying person he'd ever met. It's not like any of them could flee. Where would the Nohr siblings go? They can't go to Hoshido for obvious reasons, anywhere in or near Nohr is off the table because Iago and that other guy who's name I can't be bothered to remember can easily monitor them and track them down. The bottomless canyon is death, for all they know. Xander, being the oldest and the crown prince, would likely be under the most scrutiny for any sign of wavering loyalty. Given how Garon's first move was to execute Corrin under suspicion of being a Hoshidan spy, anyone with a functional self preservation instinct would put on an air of fanatical nationalism and sing the praises of the guy who's your father, but also wouldn't hesitate to execute you for the slightest transgression. It speaks volumes to the weaknesses of Fates' writing as a whole that I had to go to such lengths to guess a major character's motivation for defending a merciless dictator, and yet I find the Nohrian siblings far more interesting because of this dynamic between them and Garon.
What I find funny is that Faye COULD have been a good character if the designers didn't treat her as filler; but then adding filler into a REMAKE isn't exactly unfamiliar; *cough cough* Shadow dragon *cough*. That's just how I see it
I feel like Meg suffered from the unfortunate no proper support in Radiant Dawn, and I think she does fit in well in the world. She by no means is a bad unit for me when I train her up, and I believe in the fact that she is amongst the bravest of the units, she is a farmer's girl who went to find love and instead fought for the fate of the world and not even once backed down or thought nope! She stood by Micaiah and Sothe, and did her best. (I also think Corrin was great in Fire Emblem Warriors, and I love the Corrin design it's just big shame they dropped the ball, otherwise I really like them xD) Oh yeah and Makalov is just ....urgh, I even used him once in the Endgame of Radiant Dawn because I wanted to see how he would perform.
hopefully, should the tellius games be remade, there might be a way for characters to have a voice post-recruitment. shadows of valentia benefited a lot from it
Meg also disobeys her father when he orders her to switch sides, because she doesn't want to leave her friends down! Even Jill, aka one of the most resolute characters in the series by the end of Path or Radiance, is easily convinced to defect by Haar. Meg lacks characterization for sure and is one of the worst units in RD, but we're still given enough to see who she is and what she values. She just walked on her own all the way from Crimea to Daein just to meet Zihark for Pete's sake. She's one of the purest character in FE, but I guess that doesn't come across as well when you're not a cute girl wearing a miniskirt.
I think it's a matter or case of further exploration of the Character's background to get that admiration. This is something Radiant Dawn's potential remake to improve on.
the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
Desmond doesn't really bother me, and I think the reason why is because I feel that his being a scumbag is kind of the point the story writers were going for. Though the story of Desmond and Zephiel is just a subplot in FE 7, I believe it does a good job telling a believable story how Zephiel reached the point of no return in distrusting and despising humanity by the time FE 6 takes place. I can definitely believe the tale of an upright, promising young man turning completely bitter in his older years due to his father - whom he desperately wants to be appreciated by - trying to kill him out of envy and paranoia. I can also believe a story about a king who, knowing that his personal traits are merely average and are overshadowed by those of his prodigious son, becomes paranoid that he will be overthrown and replaced by his son, whom the people would reasonably be eager to have in charge. Thus, I find Garon and Validar to be bigger offenders because I feel that they do not achieve what the story writers tried to make them out to be. They are supposed to have bigger roles in their respective stories, but their performances leave a lot to be desired. Desmond's performance, on the other hand, is right on the mark - he is every bit the detestable villainous scumbag he is meant to be, a role which he plays very well. On another note: Keep up the good work! I especially like how you drop in alliterations, such as "Doting yet dangerous" and "Callous yet curious", as it adds a nice touch to your presentation. That's all I have. Peace!
Well there is one redeemable thing about Makalov. His death quote and him bringing flowers to Marcia's grave when you support with Astrid but Marcia died. It's very small but it shows that there is some side of him that is still wanting to do the right thing.
Well, you were right. I’m not surprised, Stephanie from Lazy Town isn’t that great and is overshadowed by pretty much all the other characters, especially Stingy and Robbie.
I cannot stand the number one in this video, he is a character I will NEVER use for the reasons this guy showed, he is a lazy reprehensible dung pile, My favorite scene in all of Path of radiance was when Ike payed his debts and proceeded to school his ass assuring him he will be working his ass off for a long while to pay him back.
having to deal with Faye was so worth it once I got to Chapter 2 for the greatness that is Mae lmao Seriously though it hurt to read Fayes supports and utter torture to read anything she was in and her design had so much potential just to be... ya know, that
she was my most powerful combatunit and only duma was able to best her. she has high hit,relatively high crit and high stats except speed and res(but that is to be expected). her op supportabilitys except physic are basicly wasted because she is the strongest one in my team,so why should she refresh a weaker unit?
i mean of the units that are not prepromote. mathilda will always have the overal edge if you use her(i couldnt because i just decided to play no formationchanges when i first played,so she was only in the overworld,no dungeons). faye is just the awakening nosferatu meme in echoes. the only thing akm is needed for are his amazing bases in earlygame,his "put enemy to 1 hp"-skill in midgame and falchion in endgame(faye can kill duma,but she needs to crit. and she didnt want to for me despite having around 30%)
Even though you did the best job explaining why you don't like Corrin (Which is more than what I can say for literally every single other FETuber), I be hard pressed to say Corrin lacks development. In Birthright, she starts to grow an animosity for Nohr and it takes her army going to a local Nohrian town to gain context of how even Nohrians are affected negatively by the war. In Conquest, her ideals of not killing are challenged (to be fair, Iago had her on a tight leash) and even broken near the end of the game because of being forced to watch innocent people die so often. She learns there are some people that deserve to die because they are that much of a detriment to the world. In Revelation, Corrin learns from joining the armies together and going to V*lla, that she doesn't have to suffer through her feelings and conflicts alone. This comes into fruition when Corrin leads a spy away from the army knowing they couldn't be trusted without any regard to her own safety. She also learns she doesn't have to die in order to protect her allies. Like I said, words can't comprehend how I grateful I am of you taking the time to explain why you don't like Corrin. And you didn't just devolve to throwing cheap buzzwords every 5 seconds.
If the narrative and character interactions were written better, I think Corrin could have been one the best lords in the series. The Mary Su treatment from other characters and questionable plot points really bring down Corrin's character as a whole.
Fates has a shit story but Corrin is actually a very well developed character. The main issue is that he is a soft and naive boy in a franchise where the fandom is mostly interested in waifus, thots, and burly men.
Not a problem dude, I try to always look at both sides of the spectrum so I'm not going to shy away from things I like about Corrin and I did personally feel conquest did the best job at developing him/her as a charater, but that's just me.
BLAZINGKNIGHT Personally, I think Birthright and Revelations did his personality best. But that’s just me. You all are welcome to disagree or agree. Plus I may have a bit of bias as Birthright is still my favorite Fire Emblem game. Even after playing every English game except Shadow Dragon.
28:18 You know, I thought he was dumb, but this next bit tells me he is actually a part of the Luck Gang, a group of FE players who dedicate so much time to playing FE they actually transcend the boundaries of traditional knowledge and become the most powerful people of all. Turns out he is not too far off on a lot of those. FE 4, who needs a horse when you can LTC warp skip? Lyn best lord? Well, she does have the best availability out of all the Lords in FE 7, which was at one time the only localized game outside of Japan, so she has the longest time being playable out of all Lords in Western FE, thus being the best since available Lords are the best Lords. Luck being the best? Hahaha, please, I’d rather not be here all day.
@@briannamcfarland5974 I thought as a chubby female character she looked kind of unique, different from the typical anime pretty girl that many popular Fire Emblem characters are. Dorothy is another favorite of mine for similar reasons. Some of the slightly older chicks like Sheena(?), Nailah, and Reina look pretty good, too.
I’m a Faye defender I can’t deny she could have been a better character I always say that Faye could benefited a lot from one more support with any of the villagers especially with kliff
Faye's problem comes from a lack of supports and screen time. I feel that she and Kliff should have been in the majority of cutscenes like Grey and Tobin were. Allowing Celica to recruit them only really hurt in the long run. They're not much help to her anyway.
Superluigi881 exactly my thoughts Genny also has the same problem since she’s optional she can’t have the screen time mae and boey have she’s apparently close with the Celica mae and boey but we don’t get to see it I wish Faye Kliff and Genny weren’t optional characters
@@emblemwarrior11 Except Mangs has never said luck was a good stat, that's just a running joke. Mangs the person is fairly lucky but thats not the same thing.
@@davidgraziano6235 Whether he actually thinks that or not is irrelevant in this context. BK could have easily slapped Mangs' profile pic on the person who got thrown out. He didn't, which leaves it up to interpretation. Besides, Mangs' crew has hazed him pretty hard in the past. I'd say it's only fair for him to do the same. That, and I've gotten tired of Mangs' style of content. It's almost always the same game every time with him. But with BK, at least he does crazy stuff every now and then. Like using Wendy. And Sophia. Won't ever see Mangs do that.
@@emblemwarrior11 1. Your original comment outright stated this was returning fire at Mangs, now you say its open to interpretation? 2. BK got shit for saying objectivly wrong stuff that even BK has made a joke out of "i don't wana talk about it", Mangs has always been unafraid to let himself be the butt of the joke so it goes down a lot easier. 3. Mangs recent Raidiant Dawn run has him using Fiona, Calil, Heather (trained), Danved, Pellius, and a tier 2 Miciah that has capped every stat except skill, stregth and HP, the tower squad is almost all meme units and no laguz royals, and its on teh hardest difficulty, BK used Wendy and Sophia on normal mode.
I agree with most of these entries with the exception that I like Corrin as a character granted I understand that Corrin has flaws, but much like Celica and Erika, who I also like, I feel that those flaws make Corrin feel human and I enjoyed her in Warriors and even Conquest. Other than Corrin, I agree that Bartre is not worth using in Blazing Sword, Faye should have had better supports, Garon’s backstory should have been more established, Valdiar should have had more depth than just being Robin’s Father, Meg should have been in a game with support conversations, Desmond is the worst father ever, those 2 cowards from Binding Blade should have just been killed by the wyvern general’s at this point, as for Izuka I think Tibarn said it best “I can’t kill him enough times for what he has done”, and finally for Makolov all I can say is that between him and Lekein, Astrid needs to find a boyfriend that is not a complete scum.
Now this is a well impressive video and to be fair, this crap made me laugh. A lot. Oh and nice on using footage of my FE videos like Awakening and Fates. You're cool in my book. (thumbs up)
I really want an fe6 remake to help out roy with his personality Edit And I will be fair as well Roy’s character isn’t the best but it has potential with with him bing the youngest lord Also glad he didn’t make the list
@Calem The Muffin to my knowlage from what I heard Leif is 16 I think and Roy is ether 14 or 15 but still they were both born in different sercumstances
Keegan Walkup I looked it up and Leif was 15 at the start of FE5 but is 16 in FE4 because him meeting Seliph was a year later and yeah Roy is only 15 at FE6
Wait, wait, wait. Ashnard can move? What? I swear, in all of my playthroughs he just stands there. If the unit is three spaces away from him, he leaves them alone.
1:13 Me: “What do you think you’re doing, Blazingknight!?” Grabs shot gun and tosses it in the nearest bin/trash can. “You’re going about this all wrong my friend, here, allow me good sir.” Pull the DOOM 2016 BFG out from one pocket and the Gáe Bolg from Irish mythology from the other. “Now then, young miss. How would you like to die?” Raises right hand (BFG). “In a quick and painless cascade of blood, guts and bone shards…” Raises left hand (Irish pinky stick of death) “…or agonizingly slow and excruciatingly painfully garter being stabbed in that shallow excuse of a “heart” of yours?”
10: honestly bartre's actually got a lot more depth than you might give him credit, his canas support shows he's fully aware he's an uneducated dumbass, but he wants to improve instead of making excuses, and is willing to help canas out at his weaknesses in order for them both to achieve their dreams. 9: honestly can we just admit everything we hate about corrin is something eirika does too? like they are just eirika 2.0 but nobody seems to give eirika crap about it. not saying corrin gets a pass but i'm not nostalgia blind to ignore that we havent had a lord like this before 8: yeah faye is flat af. if she wasnt probably the best healer id probably drop her. 7. garon aint my least favorite villain, raydrik is pretty fuckin trash and nergal is really obnoxious, but garon is pretty fuckin meh 6. honestly i thought garon was weaker as a character. validar was at least a snake. his biggest problem is he's a izuka character in the role of arvis. should have had him be used by someone else than the guy using others 5. meg is just kinda wendy 2.0 so i really dont have that much of a hate boner for her. 4. idk wasnt desmond supposed to be a detestable shit bag? zephiel had to be a twisted mad king from somewhere, and i think this really highlights how fucked his life was. 3. honestly we all know these guys are true monsters because they didnt pay hugh. what dicks 2. honestly i actually cant care for izuka. he has like 3 scenes in 9, and comes out no where for major significance, and disappears for a while. like shit choose to be relevant or not. 1. honestly if any one says this isnt the most detestable piece of shit in the franchise than i would never take a single thing seriously from them ever again. i have never seen a character in my entire life thats central motif was making every character a worse written one for knowing him, and never gets his comeuppance. he's such garbage to the point i legitimately think fe5's final gaiden is more enjoyable than any conversation with him in it
This was very entertaining to watch XD the only character I really can’t stand is Rudolf, Alm’s dad. It’s just really f***ed up what he did to Alm and also how he led Berkut to believe he would be inheriting the throne all the while knowing Alm was ultimately going to take his place. In a way, he’s a big reason for Berkut’s fate/obsessive aggression and partly to blame for giving Berkut even more reason to hate Alm. Rudolf is like “I wanted it to be you who killed me, Alm. Oh by the way, I’m your father. Also, you’re next in line for the Rigelian throne... you’re welcome.” Like WHAT THE F MAN?? I feel so bad for Alm tbh. Oh yeah, and I find it funny that we sometimes have such differing opinions on favorite characters; Bartre, Corrin, and Faye are some of my favorites. Although I feel similar distaste for the rest of your picks as well. And Zephiel is my FAVORITE villain of the FE franchise... I love his character so much; Narcian and Berkut are not far behind though 👌👌
came here to check the comments and make sure Serra wasn't in the vid. She's awesome and anyone who doesn't like her never bothered to use her and see her support convos with characters like Erk, Matthew, and Hector.
About Validar's presence in FE Warriors. I think it's mostly because the writers were lazy and didn't want to create a unique moveset for any of the villains who were never planned to be playable anyway, so why bother. But they then proceeded to take that laziness even further by having all of the non-OG villains all be Robin clones. So they picked the evil spellcasters of each installment that the game focused on. Basically, the choice of villains in FE Warriors can be summed up in four simple words : *They just didn't care*
When it comes to overall hateability, yeah there isn't a more awful being than Izuka, but at least his writing is consistent and the way everyone treats him makes sense (apart from Pelleas, but I consider that more a knock against Pelleas). But I think Garon is way more shoddily written. We don't see when he used to be a good guy and everyone, especially Xander, continues to have blind faith in him for no reason. If he had a little more depth to him than "corrupted and evil", there wouldn't be such a stark good/evil dichotomy between Hoshido and Nohr, and it would make Corrin's choice more nuanced. I believe Garon had the most wasted potential and laziest writing, making him the worst character. Okay, maybe second after Makalov.
This video makes me want to to work on my Fire Emblem Fates rewrite some more. It's unfortunately been stagnant lately due to how busy I've been. But maybe I could work on it again and start adding some stuff.
the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
I agree with most of your list, but I would personally like to add Nyna to that list. The reason Nyna is probably my least favorite character is because of her attitude throughout both her games. At first she seems to be somewhat collected and acts as a support for Marth and Hardin. However, when it comes time to face Camus her entire facade drops and she shows herself to be an exceedingly selfish person the majority of the time. She not only risks the fate of her kingdom by marching out onto the battlefield against an extremely powerful foe, but does not even try to respect the wishes of Camus to serve his country until the end while also shoving the selfish request on Marth to try and spare his life, which Marth is just not in the position to do. Even if Camus's decision was a poor one, she refused to respect his decision and then proceeds to blame a fictional curse for the choices Camus made, instead of even trying to understand them. Now, she does have a redeeming moment or two. It's sweet of her to push Marth to confess to Caeda, and it is revealed in FE12 that she did not consider Marth as a potential husband because she did not want to push Marth to marry her due to his sense of duty and break Caeda's heart. Unfortunately, this act of bravery and kindness means nothing after what she does to Hardin. Political marriages have always been a thing, and more often than not only one of the two actually have feelings for one another. I get that. But Nyna is the one who particularly chooses Hardin, knowing how much he loves her, and then proceeds to not even attempt to show him the affection he deserves after all he does for her and her people. She isn't even honest with him about why she doesn't show him affection, and this makes Hardin spiral down hard as he thinks it's his fault. Hardin should never have accepted the dark orb from Gharnef, but it is arguable that the one who pushed Hardin into that very situation was Nyna, meaning the War of Heroes and the deaths of thousands are because she wanted to act like a good ruler and wife but didn't follow through at all. Even Camus ends up moving on with Tatiana, because he accepts reality that their time together was over and Tatiana had earned his love. It's actually kind of fitting that she abdicates the throne to Marth and ends up alone, because to be honest she kind of deserved it after all she did. I personally feel 0 guilt if I kill her during the FE12 endgame, won't lie. She's my Makalov.
I kind of like the concept behind Garon and how disappointing he was than I remember that the Garon we knew for most of them game was a puppet using his corpse controlled by the true villain. This might sound odd but did we really know Garon or just the minion of the Deep Dragon using his body as a shell?
God you hit the nail on the head with Garron and Validar. It is one thing to be a one note monster, as that can be fun in its own right and can make a great imposing threat to have to destroy (see so many other Fire Emblem bad guys who are about as deep as kiddie pools but are still super memorable and fun) but both of them screw it up. They are not even fun to hate like Gangrel or Hans. They are that unitresting.
My very quick list and why:10. Lucina: Marth three, and also, she is completely inconsequential to Awakening's already subpar story. You could remove her entirely, and the story would barely change, if at all. She is flat (personality-wise), and doesn't do anything of value. 9. Nyna: The way she treated Hardin was flat-out disgusting8. Nowi: Jail-Bait7.Validar: Cartoony.Garon: Wasted potential.Iago: So Cartoony that he is flat out, a joke.Xander: He is completely incoherent. The way he acts and the way he speaks do not match.Corrin: Worst main character in the franchise. He is not very smart, and because he represents you, it makes him that much more infuriating. They write him to be a mary sue, but he fails even at that.Peri: She makes absolutely no sense. While I have a friend that really likes her, her existence is a paradox. She doesn't fit in the story and setting that she is in. The fact that she works Under Xander makes no sense. She is also not redeemed by the fact that she bakes cakes.1. Camilla: I have many reasons to dislike Camilla. I do not feel that she is a well-developped character, and I honestly find her obsession with her younger brother (especially in a sexual way) to be downright creepy. I am not into the whole "Motherly lover" play. It disgusts me to my very core. Sadly enough, Camilla is so blatantly oversexualized (even in cutscenes), that it would prevent any legitimate character-building, if there was any in the first place. She also represents a direction in the Fire Emblem series that I am not very fond of. The obsession with characters with an overplayed personality quirk that makes up almost all of that character's basic interactions is something that I cannot get behind, especially after playing Tellius and Valentia games, which excelled at creating great multifaceted characters for the most part. While I dislike her, it is more her "influence" that rubs me the wrong way.The reason i do not mind Faye as much is because the characters around her actually acknowledge how deranged her mindset is. She even gets rejected. It makes it at the very least feel more normal. People not batting an eye at Camilla's weird behaviour is strange to me. While I am not the biggest fan of Tharja, at least, people do question her behaviour.
While it makes me sad, I don't mind and understand that hate Faye gets, as she has many flaws, and isn't deep in any way. But... "hostile to others for moronic reasons"? "unjustified obsession"? I don't think those points are correct. For the 1st point, gossip usually isn't a good act, and I find it perfectly normal for Faye to be put off by someone she only recently met start gossiping about her friends. I sure wouldn't like that, and as I'm not a fan of gossip myself, I understand her reaction. Granted, she could have answered Silque with less annoyance in her voice, but the point stands. As for her B support, I'd say Faye's reluctance makes even more sense, considering the one Silque is offering to gossip is Alm. Considering Faye's obsession over Alm, it makes sense she wouldn't want to gossip about him behind his back. If she's got anything to say about/to him, do it while he's there. Another thing to consider are the messages of Echoes, one of which is progress vs stagnation. Celica represents moving forward, while Faye represents the status quo, and their personalities back that up. Having her not accept Silque until later plays off that, and keep Faye consistant. For the 2nd point, I guess it's more subjective, but the events of the Prologue + the fact she prefers things to not change and believed they would always remain in Ram (and had no reason to think otherwise), I feel makes her obsession justified, to some extent at least. I see the event of almost getting killed by Slayde as traumatizing for Faye, even moreso considering she was the first target. Out of the kids, Faye's the one who was grabbed by Slayde's men, and Slayde was literally about to chop her head off when Alm arrived, and his attention drifted. Right before the Prologue battle, Faye and Kliff are the most terrified and can't stop crying. Alm's intervention is what stopped Slayde from killing Faye. It's hinted she already loved Alm before then, but since he pretty much saved her life, and was the most courageous of all the kids, inspiring courage in them, Faye's love for him naturally increased hundredfold. Faye has several problems, stemming from both her personality and Echoes' general lack of supports for half the cast. Her base conversation in Act 3 is borderline ill-intentioned, and she says "Alm" a couple dozen times too much for my taste. However, I can't help but think the hate she gets, while justified, is often overblown. Sorry for the wall of text. Great video.
Ah, hearing samgrace gives me life :3 Great video as always!) Also, that Mangs reference was nice, I really hope these little humorous jabs at each other will help you both get over your differences and we'll at least have a chance to witness the two of you in the same Rival Bromains (:
I don't get why you chose villains who are supposed to be despised or hated. Garon and Valibar makes sense because they are terribly written and all, but Desmond and Izuka actually do their respective job at being hated villains even if they feel two dimensional. Some characters are made to do specific things and even if you find it horrible or not that's stuff that keep you invested in the story and want to bring them to an end. In Makalov's case, however, he is suppose to be a good guy, but shows absolutely no redeeming qualities compared to how many bad things he does. Oliver is a fat bishop that's obsessed with Heron and keeps coming back because it is apparently funny, but this guy is supposed to be a villain turning into a good guy and...yeah we don't really have anything that shows he is a good person. Point is, I feel you mixed worst characters and worse human being. And if you feel like Izuka does terrible things, Manfroy is worse.
In my opinion, Desmond's reasoning for the extremely over the top ways he tortured were actually moronic. "POISONING YOUR SON! REALLY!?" He was just an average guy who only hates his son because of insecurity and paranoia and not true malice, not even seeing Zephiel only excels because of his admiration of his father, not natural skill. He's not evil, he's just a bitch. That's not just a bad character, but a horrible person too, and he did make the disclaimer that some of his choices were also on their actions, not just writing, and personalities are a part of a character in general, otherwise, Sonya, Gharnef, Ashnard, and Xander would all be on this list too if it was so black and white. TV Tropes lists him under Asshole Victim as well, one of the most hated tropes period.
@@yusifudo46 despite being over the top you still get why he wants to kill his son. The point of this character was to show what made Zephiel a villain in the first place and he does his job well considering nobody likes him and you sympathize with Zephiel. That's not a bad character because he does fulfill his role in the story and you can easily understand his motivation. I just feel this list of bad characters started with actual bad ones and then was interrupted with those you're not even suppose to like. While it might sound that characters like Faye would get a pass because of my argument of "that's the goal of this character", it doesnt excuse the fact that as a character you're supposed to root for she doesnt have ANYTHING apart from her obsession with Alm. Other characters like Catria and Cordelia have shown more to them than just their one sided agenda, so why cant Faye have anything we can relate to?
@@SuperFrancoco Except, he's not really what you consider a villain. He's just a straight up generic punk bitch. Sonya (Nino's adoptive mother) is exactly the same way, but gets cool points (and other Black Fang members) as she does by actually having villainous intent and actual makes good on her threats and capabilities, along with actually being cunning. Desmond is just a weakling and nothing else and no one likes him because he's basically just Makalov is to Marcia and Astrid. He's not evil, just unbearably irresponsible. There's a difference. Even his wife gets over on him.
Oh, boy... during the last part with that full-blown rant on Makalov, I can only imagine what every good big brother in the franchise would have to say about him.
How is peri not on this list? Her psychopathic attitude is bad enough, but her supports make other better characters look worse with about one or two exceptions! If someone can give me a redeeming quality that has to do with her CHARACTER and not her abilities in combat, I’d love to hear it.
Arcardo, Roatz, and Desmond may not be likeable characters, but personally I think they are still "good" characters in the way that they have clearly defined personalities that are consistent throughout the game. The other "worst" characters in this list are one-dimensional, unrealistic and poorly developed, so I don't think these three fit with the others.
*Makalov is in your party now* me: -removes his weapons; -put him in the front lines; me: BE GONE AND NEVER COME BACK!!! (and IS pls, for the love of god! don't put this guy in FEH!)
but if he gets put in heroes, that means you can take him down without consequences should he be randomly selected as an enemy. maybe there might be jabs at him referencing just how despised he is
Just thought I’d mention that Meg does not have a romantic subplot with Zihark she thinks she has a romantic subplot with Zihark it is clearly stated Zihark hasn’t loved a woman and never will after his ex girlfriend died
If I could like a video one thousand times I would. Makalov is my least favourite character in FE and the only one I actually hate. I usually just ignore characters I'm not a fan of, never outright hating them, but Makalov was introduced to me during a very difficult time. Not only is he a shitty character but he reminds me of memories I'd rather forget. 0/1000000 >:l Ignoring the rant above, I really enjoyed the video. Your usage of words always brings a smile to my face and it was well formatted.
Idea for rewriting Makalov: have him start out as usual (selfish, frivolous, etc), but over the course of the games he learns the true meaning of bonds and companions, and he realizes that he feels much better when he's around people. With this new mindset, he only gambles when others are around to play and cares more about fun than constantly winning. It could show an uphill battle against getting over an addiction or something
I honestly thought that Izuka was the only candidate for the worst character ever before this video. Makalov actually got me upset when he wanted to make a bet with his sister. WHAT in the name of Yune and Ashera does Astrid see in this disgraceful, lazy, and borderline garbage dump of a man!?
the only way i can justify her interest in him is that she is the "i can change him" kind of girl, where she purposely gets in a relationship with a despicable guy in hopes that she can make him a better person
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 Makalov doesn't deserve her. Sure, I guess anyone would be better than Lekain who goes for the gold in the biggest piece of shit Olympics, but... the pink haired buffoon is not the one.
Astrid: Bad ending
Titania: bad ending
Makalov: good ending
There is no god
I hate fire emblem
@@JlBUNROCK why?????
@@orangeslash1667 the comment lol of all people makalov should've had a bad ending 😭
@@JlBUNROCK Well how are people suppose to react to a character that feels so unlikeable even by Fire Emblem standers??
Oh, but there will be. Look at how BLAZINGKNIGHT spelled his name in the timestamps.
"Macca Love"
Dude is bringing Shin Megami Tensei into this. Makalov finna get done in by demons!
I’m glad you see the light in Warriors Corrin. Guess he just works better as a supporting character.
I like Warriors Corrin better than Fates Corrin.
@@wisewolf7388 -does epic dragon mental BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN listen BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN-
@胡李 yes female Corrin is better
@@wisewolf7388 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@@orangeslash1667 Ah, so from what I'm hearing, it's a case of Nintendo wanted the game out and thus cut out so much story, making the narrative's execution mediocre.
Interesting fact about Astrid, her arranged marriage was to Lekain. No wonder she sees something in Makalov. Good list btw.
the more insteresting part of that fact is you learn it when she fights Lekain in Radiant Dawn, just before she Murders his sorry ass, Supremely satisfying if ya ask me. Still should have wound up with Gatrie instead of Makalov.
@@philipcharpentier-havill801 not like gatrie is a much better partner either (refferring to making astrid "his" and then proceeding to laugh creepily)
I mean at least in comparison to Lekain, Makalov is a saint
That makes way too much sense
@@Crumble_n_use whoa!
Blazing knight: fire emblem is comprised of 95% good characters
Me: so this list is like missing both attacks on a 95% to hit
Essentially yes.
honestly with echoes at times it feels like you could have a 100% hit rate and you'd still miss
Ceradust Welcome to Thracia 776
@@Ceradeez you're certainly not wrong
@@Ceradeez That's Single roll RNG for you.
Dang, Faye only at #8? There must be some REALLY bad characters if she’s this low.
Celica was worst
The Right Bear For The Job ok yeah, she took a serious nosedive but really? Worse than Faye? No. Just no.
@@alanzapreservationtheythem2861 Faye is a one not character, Celica is a bad one
Delta kai09 yes we all know Faye is essentially not a character but at the very least Celica had a decent start and an alright backstory. She only took a nosedive once she screwed Alm over whereas Faye was garbage from the beginning
@@alanzapreservationtheythem2861 celica never screwed over Alm. In fact she saved his life from Nuibaba's spell in act 4 and gave him a way to promote so he can be stronger. Do people even read the story? Celica haters are so vocal that they start twisting the story in their favor.
Funny how you mention that the one interesting thing about Garon was that he 'used' to be a good man but the game never shows any sign of that.
The manga actually shows that a part of his old self is still there and fighting to regain control of himself from Anankos. It's only for a moment and unfortuantly the manga may not continue but it was still nice to see that.
Even if it was a flashback it would still be pretty cool
@@opalyasu7159 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@Orange Slash I'd love to get my hands on that original script and dedicate time to making a rom hack with the original story intact, properly edited to fit gameplay and pacing. I reslly love Fates, ironically not becuause it's good(gameplay is fun even though BR is too easy and CQ is too difficult), but because it's a reslly good case study of a solid game with a _horrible_ story lol
I love it to death because it's so easy to tear apart lol
@@TheQuashingoftheTub I would also be into this, I wanna see the original, before it got torn to pieces for... Frankly, not even particularly good reasons
To break another lance in favor of Corrin, the one in the manga was also better.
The Fates one... eh.
How so? I didn't know there was a manga.
@@MrSentinel07 it's been since some years.
Only in Japan sadly...
Corrin is too overhated
Fates gets 50% better if you name Corrin "Corn", trust me on this one.
hentai corrin is best corrin.
Yes, let the Makalov hate flow through you! Very satisfying to see Marcia getting revenge on this chowderhead.
Great video BlazingKnight, and I'm glad I could help out with voicing Validar. It was a lot of fun to do.
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed and thanks for doing such a brilliant job as Validar!
after seeing #2 I was like... WHOO... WHO THE HELL IS WORSE THAN IZUKA (that disgusting disease of a character)... then he mentions Makalov and I was like..... oooh yeaaah him. Yeah that actually makes TOTAL sense.
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
2:10 "I'm going in deep." Shows Niles. I see what you did there.
Hey Makalov, care to see my cask of Amontillado?
Would have made it even better with the Laslow "hehehehehehehhe"
Oof, about time this remake came around. Then again, with Three Housee coming out and the many new stuff for Heroes, I'm not surprised.
You mean three heroes yeah? killing off a dead meme lmao.
Since Dorothea and Ingrid are establishing themselves as two of my most favorite characters for Three Houses I'm feeling the young nobleman at the center of the Paralouge involving them will be character-wise an egotistical perverted piece of crap who thinks he can toy with Dorothea's emotions since she's in love with him, and marry Ingrid breaking Dorothea's heart just because he's a noble.
Corrin is far more interesting to me in Conquest than in Birthright or Revelation because he/she's actually the Camus of that version. I know that people assume because Xander is Birthright's Camus that Ryoma should be Conquest's by default, but in reality Ryoma has absolutely no reason to join you or sympathize with you. Meanwhile, Corrin tries to avoid non-necessary deaths while fighting for Garon and should have been on Hoshido's side or with nobody because the third options doesn't make much sense for a main Lord. Unless, like I said, Corrin is actually a Camus main character.
Maybe... Just maybe that explains the japanese name Kamui? And I am not being sarcastic rn XD
Who or what is Camus?
@@JaelinBezel hot mostly blonde people who have a fetish for dying because loyalty
@@sophiaisstillagoodunit6626 What a great and accurate description. Especially the hot blonde part.
@Anti-Dumbsville the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
Satan: How much lower can u possibly sink?
Makalov: hold my beer.
Izuka: Too late.
With how much your opinions change, I kinda expected this video. (Edit: I guess a lot of people agree with me.)
I applaud the number 1 entry wholeheartedly.
King Bahamut I completely agree
Press F to pay respects for Astrid. IS please put her in heroes, we need to save her from this cruel fate.
F
She’d probably just have voice lines saying how amazing Makalov is...
Mustard That’s why it has to be path of radiance Astrid.
They did it for Karla
I want her in the valentines banner with her lovely husbad
Ah, Stella... no only had your name changed to Astrid for absolutely no reason whatsoever, you were the indisputable best archer and one of the best mounted units in your debut game, with great support with Sothe and a rather tragic backstory, considering you were supposed to marry Lekain, making your decision to run away and join a war you had no business in, but quickly leveling up and growing to be an integral part of the team for many players all that more compelling, only to be completely cast aside as a delusional battered house wife to a good for nothing drunk gambler and a rather useless unit whose Elite/Paragon skill and even data transfer stats increase aren't enough to make you a valuable unit or character...
Why must she suffer like this?
"Luck is the best stat?"
I roared with laughter.
What does Luck do?
Not Much, Luck determines Accuracy, Evasion and Enemy critical by one point each, Some skills are activated my it, devil axe backfire rate and in three houses, increased critical chance.
Give Camilla credit, she had an abusive family who shuttered them from society and especially kept Corrin isolated. Growing up in such a gloomy and hostile environment, she felt the need to be a glimmer of hope for her own family. So I can see reasoning for her being so doting and affectionate.
Faye just loves Alm.... because.
I agree despite her corrin obsession she does have an interesting backstory and is shown to be doting towards others, not just corrin, as well as a very sadistic side which makes her more three dimensional.
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 The good news is that Corrin is likable in the Fates manga. Yes it exists
I feel like RD did Meg and the entire Dawn Brigade dirty with absolutely no character development. I kinda liked Izuka since his actions make more sense when you take into consideration that he's not really on Daein's side. And you get to kill him which was great. For Makalov... Yeah at least you get some free stuff from him.
In my opinion Faye's overall appearance is what makes her more of a terrifying character. I mean at face value she seems very approachable and welcoming, only to realize to late the underlying insanity within.
Camilla and Tharja's appearances match well to their personalities, and highlights their occupation and intimidating demeanor that makes them seem dangerous. That doesn't mean Tharja nor Camilla don't have their soft sides if someone looks deeper, but their more darkest behaviors are displayed upfront, that show's honesty and open they both are in truth to their nature.
Faye, is the equivalent of a psychopath hiding her real nature, appearing as a 'normal' village peasant woman that any poor soul, especially Alm, can asossiat with, only to realize too late the obsessive, harsh monster that lies within.
If the writers where a bit more self aware fire emblem could of had its first ever yandere would have made her a more interesting character
Faye and Lukas(My BOOOOOOOOOOOOY-) are drastically and really well written sociopaths. The main difference though is the writers know Lukas is one, and write around that while making him a sympathetic and good person _AND_ character, while with Faye, the writers don't seem to realize she's a sociopath and forgot to actually write around that lol
They somehow wrote a Horror antagonist without noticing.
Lukas from echoes
Gannon is the worst to me since of the waisted potential we could have seen what he was like before being turned evil and we would have known why Xander respects him also imagine when you fight him his realself comes out and thanks Corrin and the others for saving him that would have been much better in my opinion
Sean Reviews especially in Revelations where the hoshidan royals get to talk to Mikoto and sumaragi but what do the nohr royals get...nothing like come on it doesn’t take a genius to think that maybe the nohr royals could have a moment too
Lyon already did that, lol.
GANNONBANNED!!!
long, dumb Xander apologist essay ahead:
I don't know about Xander respecting him- I haven't finished playing Conquest yet, but the way the Nohrian siblings all talk so casually about potentially being killed for disobeying (a scene comes to mind, maybe around Ch 14. where Xander immediately volunteered to be executed instead of Corrin) makes me think Xander, Camilla and Leo are constantly walking on eggshells, giving the impression that they're obediently following Garon's every order. I can't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that Xander thought his father was the most terrifying person he'd ever met.
It's not like any of them could flee. Where would the Nohr siblings go? They can't go to Hoshido for obvious reasons, anywhere in or near Nohr is off the table because Iago and that other guy who's name I can't be bothered to remember can easily monitor them and track them down. The bottomless canyon is death, for all they know.
Xander, being the oldest and the crown prince, would likely be under the most scrutiny for any sign of wavering loyalty. Given how Garon's first move was to execute Corrin under suspicion of being a Hoshidan spy, anyone with a functional self preservation instinct would put on an air of fanatical nationalism and sing the praises of the guy who's your father, but also wouldn't hesitate to execute you for the slightest transgression.
It speaks volumes to the weaknesses of Fates' writing as a whole that I had to go to such lengths to guess a major character's motivation for defending a merciless dictator, and yet I find the Nohrian siblings far more interesting because of this dynamic between them and Garon.
But Gannondorf is the perfect villain!
That way you gave Vaildar a big beatdown was totes hilarious!
I know right!!! LOL
What I find funny is that Faye COULD have been a good character if the designers didn't treat her as filler; but then adding filler into a REMAKE isn't exactly unfamiliar; *cough cough* Shadow dragon *cough*.
That's just how I see it
I feel like Meg suffered from the unfortunate no proper support in Radiant Dawn, and I think she does fit in well in the world. She by no means is a bad unit for me when I train her up, and I believe in the fact that she is amongst the bravest of the units, she is a farmer's girl who went to find love and instead fought for the fate of the world and not even once backed down or thought nope! She stood by Micaiah and Sothe, and did her best. (I also think Corrin was great in Fire Emblem Warriors, and I love the Corrin design it's just big shame they dropped the ball, otherwise I really like them xD) Oh yeah and Makalov is just ....urgh, I even used him once in the Endgame of Radiant Dawn because I wanted to see how he would perform.
hopefully, should the tellius games be remade, there might be a way for characters to have a voice post-recruitment. shadows of valentia benefited a lot from it
Meg also disobeys her father when he orders her to switch sides, because she doesn't want to leave her friends down! Even Jill, aka one of the most resolute characters in the series by the end of Path or Radiance, is easily convinced to defect by Haar.
Meg lacks characterization for sure and is one of the worst units in RD, but we're still given enough to see who she is and what she values. She just walked on her own all the way from Crimea to Daein just to meet Zihark for Pete's sake.
She's one of the purest character in FE, but I guess that doesn't come across as well when you're not a cute girl wearing a miniskirt.
@@CyclonSilver I agree with all of this! I forgot that she refuses her own father! :)
I think it's a matter or case of further exploration of the Character's background to get that admiration. This is something Radiant Dawn's potential remake to improve on.
Arvis being Colonel Mustang was perfect.
Also: Mustang is a pretty badass name and so is Riza.
Honestly, the main issue with Corrin isn’t them, it’s how their treated within their own game.
the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
Desmond doesn't really bother me, and I think the reason why is because I feel that his being a scumbag is kind of the point the story writers were going for. Though the story of Desmond and Zephiel is just a subplot in FE 7, I believe it does a good job telling a believable story how Zephiel reached the point of no return in distrusting and despising humanity by the time FE 6 takes place.
I can definitely believe the tale of an upright, promising young man turning completely bitter in his older years due to his father - whom he desperately wants to be appreciated by - trying to kill him out of envy and paranoia. I can also believe a story about a king who, knowing that his personal traits are merely average and are overshadowed by those of his prodigious son, becomes paranoid that he will be overthrown and replaced by his son, whom the people would reasonably be eager to have in charge.
Thus, I find Garon and Validar to be bigger offenders because I feel that they do not achieve what the story writers tried to make them out to be. They are supposed to have bigger roles in their respective stories, but their performances leave a lot to be desired. Desmond's performance, on the other hand, is right on the mark - he is every bit the detestable villainous scumbag he is meant to be, a role which he plays very well.
On another note: Keep up the good work! I especially like how you drop in alliterations, such as "Doting yet dangerous" and "Callous yet curious", as it adds a nice touch to your presentation.
That's all I have. Peace!
The Family Guy scene with Garon was so on point lmao
I swear even Amy rose would tell Faye she's too obsessed.
Hell even part 1 sakura would
Well there is one redeemable thing about Makalov. His death quote and him bringing flowers to Marcia's grave when you support with Astrid but Marcia died. It's very small but it shows that there is some side of him that is still wanting to do the right thing.
I predict that number 1 will be the shame of all pink-haired characters in...well...any sort of medium, really.
Well, you were right. I’m not surprised, Stephanie from Lazy Town isn’t that great and is overshadowed by pretty much all the other characters, especially Stingy and Robbie.
@@RockstarEddie-rk1rm rest in peace, Robbie. You were truly number 1.
Others are shamed in his presence whereas he doesn't give a fuck what you think. Haha.
I cannot stand the number one in this video, he is a character I will NEVER use for the reasons this guy showed, he is a lazy reprehensible dung pile, My favorite scene in all of Path of radiance was when Ike payed his debts and proceeded to school his ass assuring him he will be working his ass off for a long while to pay him back.
Why was is so cathartic to listen to you rant about Makalov, and then watch that montage of scenes?
having to deal with Faye was so worth it once I got to Chapter 2 for the greatness that is Mae lmao
Seriously though it hurt to read Fayes supports and utter torture to read anything she was in and her design had so much potential just to be... ya know, that
faye is an enigma. you actually have to support her with alm to have a crazy powerful unit xD
@@lpfan4491 No...you spam heal and physic. That is her thing and she is perfect at it.
she was my most powerful combatunit and only duma was able to best her. she has high hit,relatively high crit and high stats except speed and res(but that is to be expected). her op supportabilitys except physic are basicly wasted because she is the strongest one in my team,so why should she refresh a weaker unit?
@@lpfan4491 I find it hard to believe Faye would turn out better than Alm, Clive, Mathilda, Python, Gray, and Kliff. Her bases are terrible.
i mean of the units that are not prepromote. mathilda will always have the overal edge if you use her(i couldnt because i just decided to play no formationchanges when i first played,so she was only in the overworld,no dungeons). faye is just the awakening nosferatu meme in echoes. the only thing akm is needed for are his amazing bases in earlygame,his "put enemy to 1 hp"-skill in midgame and falchion in endgame(faye can kill duma,but she needs to crit. and she didnt want to for me despite having around 30%)
Even though you did the best job explaining why you don't like Corrin (Which is more than what I can say for literally every single other FETuber), I be hard pressed to say Corrin lacks development.
In Birthright, she starts to grow an animosity for Nohr and it takes her army going to a local Nohrian town to gain context of how even Nohrians are affected negatively by the war. In Conquest, her ideals of not killing are challenged (to be fair, Iago had her on a tight leash) and even broken near the end of the game because of being forced to watch innocent people die so often. She learns there are some people that deserve to die because they are that much of a detriment to the world. In Revelation, Corrin learns from joining the armies together and going to V*lla, that she doesn't have to suffer through her feelings and conflicts alone. This comes into fruition when Corrin leads a spy away from the army knowing they couldn't be trusted without any regard to her own safety. She also learns she doesn't have to die in order to protect her allies.
Like I said, words can't comprehend how I grateful I am of you taking the time to explain why you don't like Corrin. And you didn't just devolve to throwing cheap buzzwords every 5 seconds.
If the narrative and character interactions were written better, I think Corrin could have been one the best lords in the series. The Mary Su treatment from other characters and questionable plot points really bring down Corrin's character as a whole.
TomFoolry Finally. Thanks for saying this. It needs more notice
Fates has a shit story but Corrin is actually a very well developed character. The main issue is that he is a soft and naive boy in a franchise where the fandom is mostly interested in waifus, thots, and burly men.
Not a problem dude, I try to always look at both sides of the spectrum so I'm not going to shy away from things I like about Corrin and I did personally feel conquest did the best job at developing him/her as a charater, but that's just me.
BLAZINGKNIGHT Personally, I think Birthright and Revelations did his personality best. But that’s just me. You all are welcome to disagree or agree. Plus I may have a bit of bias as Birthright is still my favorite Fire Emblem game. Even after playing every English game except Shadow Dragon.
I’m a huge fan of Corrin and even I couldn’t believe how hateable the last 2 are....
@LeCoolFace Bold claim
Me too.
Holy crap, thank you for putting Makalov at 1. Honestly, Astrid deserves better.
28:18 You know, I thought he was dumb, but this next bit tells me he is actually a part of the Luck Gang, a group of FE players who dedicate so much time to playing FE they actually transcend the boundaries of traditional knowledge and become the most powerful people of all.
Turns out he is not too far off on a lot of those. FE 4, who needs a horse when you can LTC warp skip? Lyn best lord? Well, she does have the best availability out of all the Lords in FE 7, which was at one time the only localized game outside of Japan, so she has the longest time being playable out of all Lords in Western FE, thus being the best since available Lords are the best Lords. Luck being the best? Hahaha, please, I’d rather not be here all day.
Meg's character design is easily one of my favorites in the series. Extremely sad that it was wasted on such a mediocre character.
She is a joke character
Winnie the Pooh took up a Sword
Oh, bother.
Just out of curiosity, why do you like Meg's character design so much?
@@briannamcfarland5974 I thought as a chubby female character she looked kind of unique, different from the typical anime pretty girl that many popular Fire Emblem characters are. Dorothy is another favorite of mine for similar reasons. Some of the slightly older chicks like Sheena(?), Nailah, and Reina look pretty good, too.
I’m a Faye defender I can’t deny she could have been a better character I always say that Faye could benefited a lot from one more support with any of the villagers especially with kliff
Faye's problem comes from a lack of supports and screen time. I feel that she and Kliff should have been in the majority of cutscenes like Grey and Tobin were. Allowing Celica to recruit them only really hurt in the long run. They're not much help to her anyway.
Superluigi881 exactly my thoughts Genny also has the same problem since she’s optional she can’t have the screen time mae and boey have she’s apparently close with the Celica mae and boey but we don’t get to see it I wish Faye Kliff and Genny weren’t optional characters
*Luck is the best stat*
Reminds me of a certain fire emblem UA-camr.
About time Blazingknight returned fire at Mangs. Been waiting for that!
Gheb...
@@emblemwarrior11 Except Mangs has never said luck was a good stat, that's just a running joke. Mangs the person is fairly lucky but thats not the same thing.
@@davidgraziano6235 Whether he actually thinks that or not is irrelevant in this context. BK could have easily slapped Mangs' profile pic on the person who got thrown out. He didn't, which leaves it up to interpretation. Besides, Mangs' crew has hazed him pretty hard in the past. I'd say it's only fair for him to do the same. That, and I've gotten tired of Mangs' style of content. It's almost always the same game every time with him. But with BK, at least he does crazy stuff every now and then. Like using Wendy. And Sophia. Won't ever see Mangs do that.
@@emblemwarrior11 1. Your original comment outright stated this was returning fire at Mangs, now you say its open to interpretation?
2. BK got shit for saying objectivly wrong stuff that even BK has made a joke out of "i don't wana talk about it", Mangs has always been unafraid to let himself be the butt of the joke so it goes down a lot easier.
3. Mangs recent Raidiant Dawn run has him using Fiona, Calil, Heather (trained), Danved, Pellius, and a tier 2 Miciah that has capped every stat except skill, stregth and HP, the tower squad is almost all meme units and no laguz royals, and its on teh hardest difficulty, BK used Wendy and Sophia on normal mode.
Snickers to myself
Heh heh corrin... more like BORRIN LOL XDDDDD
*insert uncontrollable laughter here*
living dream no,it’s Corrin.
@@supermitchobi4053 Joke: A thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchlin
Mitchell Thom no, t h i s i s p a t r i c k
Sad thing about Meg is I like her design, but WOW is she irrelevant. I wish they could’ve done more with her.
It was fun doing the VA work for this video.
You did an amazing job, thanks so much!
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 your welcome
I agree with most of these entries with the exception that I like Corrin as a character granted I understand that Corrin has flaws, but much like Celica and Erika, who I also like, I feel that those flaws make Corrin feel human and I enjoyed her in Warriors and even Conquest. Other than Corrin, I agree that Bartre is not worth using in Blazing Sword, Faye should have had better supports, Garon’s backstory should have been more established, Valdiar should have had more depth than just being Robin’s Father, Meg should have been in a game with support conversations, Desmond is the worst father ever, those 2 cowards from Binding Blade should have just been killed by the wyvern general’s at this point, as for Izuka I think Tibarn said it best “I can’t kill him enough times for what he has done”, and finally for Makolov all I can say is that between him and Lekein, Astrid needs to find a boyfriend that is not a complete scum.
Dammit Zephiel should've been in warriors, transforming eckesachs would've been epic in 3d.
Yeah... Maybe in FE Warriors 2 if there ever is a Sequel.
"Luck is the Best Stat"
SHOTS. FIRED.
>1 min in and already some master craft wordplay.
God I love your videos.
Thank you I'm glad your appreciate my use of diction.
Now this is a well impressive video and to be fair, this crap made me laugh. A lot. Oh and nice on using footage of my FE videos like Awakening and Fates. You're cool in my book. (thumbs up)
Thanks very much! =)
20:01 we need a remix of Takumi saying that
Tbh makalov doesn't get under my skin. Even in radiant. Dawn at least he has someone like Astrid to help him out in the end .
“But she never tamed him.” I was l i v i d.
but he doesn't deserve her
@@felixmartinez1100 I mean that can be said about anyone you don't like . And tbh some people have attractions to people we never can get why
I really want an fe6 remake to help out roy with his personality
Edit And I will be fair as well Roy’s character isn’t the best but it has potential with with him bing the youngest lord
Also glad he didn’t make the list
Leif in fe5 is actually the same age as him
@Calem The Muffin to my knowlage from what I heard Leif is 16 I think and Roy is ether 14 or 15 but still they were both born in different sercumstances
Keegan Walkup I looked it up and Leif was 15 at the start of FE5 but is 16 in FE4 because him meeting Seliph was a year later and yeah Roy is only 15 at FE6
Calem The Muffin ok cool
"To be honest, I only won 'cause I'm pissed!"
- Makalov
That his performance in POR in a nutshell.
Wait, wait, wait. Ashnard can move? What? I swear, in all of my playthroughs he just stands there. If the unit is three spaces away from him, he leaves them alone.
He moves on difficult mode or higher.
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 Oh, thanks for clearing that out. Nice vid by the way.
1:13
Me: “What do you think you’re doing, Blazingknight!?” Grabs shot gun and tosses it in the nearest bin/trash can. “You’re going about this all wrong my friend, here, allow me good sir.” Pull the DOOM 2016 BFG out from one pocket and the Gáe Bolg from Irish mythology from the other. “Now then, young miss. How would you like to die?” Raises right hand (BFG). “In a quick and painless cascade of blood, guts and bone shards…” Raises left hand (Irish pinky stick of death) “…or agonizingly slow and excruciatingly painfully garter being stabbed in that shallow excuse of a “heart” of yours?”
Sometimes I forget Izuka was even in PoR. Same case with Gareth, although Gareth turns out to be somewhat helpful by the end...like, the VERY end.
24:51 Is it safe to say that this joke didn't age well?
Yes
10: honestly bartre's actually got a lot more depth than you might give him credit, his canas support shows he's fully aware he's an uneducated dumbass, but he wants to improve instead of making excuses, and is willing to help canas out at his weaknesses in order for them both to achieve their dreams.
9: honestly can we just admit everything we hate about corrin is something eirika does too? like they are just eirika 2.0 but nobody seems to give eirika crap about it. not saying corrin gets a pass but i'm not nostalgia blind to ignore that we havent had a lord like this before
8: yeah faye is flat af. if she wasnt probably the best healer id probably drop her.
7. garon aint my least favorite villain, raydrik is pretty fuckin trash and nergal is really obnoxious, but garon is pretty fuckin meh
6. honestly i thought garon was weaker as a character. validar was at least a snake. his biggest problem is he's a izuka character in the role of arvis. should have had him be used by someone else than the guy using others
5. meg is just kinda wendy 2.0 so i really dont have that much of a hate boner for her.
4. idk wasnt desmond supposed to be a detestable shit bag? zephiel had to be a twisted mad king from somewhere, and i think this really highlights how fucked his life was.
3. honestly we all know these guys are true monsters because they didnt pay hugh. what dicks
2. honestly i actually cant care for izuka. he has like 3 scenes in 9, and comes out no where for major significance, and disappears for a while. like shit choose to be relevant or not.
1. honestly if any one says this isnt the most detestable piece of shit in the franchise than i would never take a single thing seriously from them ever again. i have never seen a character in my entire life thats central motif was making every character a worse written one for knowing him, and never gets his comeuppance. he's such garbage to the point i legitimately think fe5's final gaiden is more enjoyable than any conversation with him in it
This was very entertaining to watch XD the only character I really can’t stand is Rudolf, Alm’s dad. It’s just really f***ed up what he did to Alm and also how he led Berkut to believe he would be inheriting the throne all the while knowing Alm was ultimately going to take his place. In a way, he’s a big reason for Berkut’s fate/obsessive aggression and partly to blame for giving Berkut even more reason to hate Alm. Rudolf is like “I wanted it to be you who killed me, Alm. Oh by the way, I’m your father. Also, you’re next in line for the Rigelian throne... you’re welcome.” Like WHAT THE F MAN?? I feel so bad for Alm tbh.
Oh yeah, and I find it funny that we sometimes have such differing opinions on favorite characters; Bartre, Corrin, and Faye are some of my favorites. Although I feel similar distaste for the rest of your picks as well. And Zephiel is my FAVORITE villain of the FE franchise... I love his character so much; Narcian and Berkut are not far behind though 👌👌
I bet nobody feels bad about killing Rudolf anymore.
Sees Serra in the thumbnail, my dislike button is ready.
Happily it wasn’t the case.
Seeing Serra in the thumbnail only made me want to watch the video more. Now I’m disappointed.
I know right, she is actually a really good character that only ignorant people dislike
came here to check the comments and make sure Serra wasn't in the vid. She's awesome and anyone who doesn't like her never bothered to use her and see her support convos with characters like Erk, Matthew, and Hector.
@@DarkAuraLord Couldn't have say it better
Well who could hate our lalala goddess
About Validar's presence in FE Warriors. I think it's mostly because the writers were lazy and didn't want to create a unique moveset for any of the villains who were never planned to be playable anyway, so why bother.
But they then proceeded to take that laziness even further by having all of the non-OG villains all be Robin clones. So they picked the evil spellcasters of each installment that the game focused on.
Basically, the choice of villains in FE Warriors can be summed up in four simple words : *They just didn't care*
Also, his Japanese voice actor Takehito Koyasu also voices Navarre and Niles, so it may have been for convenience, too.
Omg, I freaking love the editing you did here, especially with voicing the characters and animated their mouths to move.
Thanks very much, also thank you for making those SGB highlight videos! =D
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 Oh wow, thanks! That means a lot, especially from someone like you :D
When it comes to overall hateability, yeah there isn't a more awful being than Izuka, but at least his writing is consistent and the way everyone treats him makes sense (apart from Pelleas, but I consider that more a knock against Pelleas). But I think Garon is way more shoddily written. We don't see when he used to be a good guy and everyone, especially Xander, continues to have blind faith in him for no reason. If he had a little more depth to him than "corrupted and evil", there wouldn't be such a stark good/evil dichotomy between Hoshido and Nohr, and it would make Corrin's choice more nuanced. I believe Garon had the most wasted potential and laziest writing, making him the worst character. Okay, maybe second after Makalov.
This video makes me want to to work on my Fire Emblem Fates rewrite some more. It's unfortunately been stagnant lately due to how busy I've been. But maybe I could work on it again and start adding some stuff.
the Reason for fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligents Systems had an idea for Fate to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Nintendo knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.
@@orangeslash1667 Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong but I think 70% of the original script was cut in the final release?
@@ArbitraryOutcome Most likely
I agree with most of your list, but I would personally like to add Nyna to that list. The reason Nyna is probably my least favorite character is because of her attitude throughout both her games. At first she seems to be somewhat collected and acts as a support for Marth and Hardin. However, when it comes time to face Camus her entire facade drops and she shows herself to be an exceedingly selfish person the majority of the time. She not only risks the fate of her kingdom by marching out onto the battlefield against an extremely powerful foe, but does not even try to respect the wishes of Camus to serve his country until the end while also shoving the selfish request on Marth to try and spare his life, which Marth is just not in the position to do. Even if Camus's decision was a poor one, she refused to respect his decision and then proceeds to blame a fictional curse for the choices Camus made, instead of even trying to understand them.
Now, she does have a redeeming moment or two. It's sweet of her to push Marth to confess to Caeda, and it is revealed in FE12 that she did not consider Marth as a potential husband because she did not want to push Marth to marry her due to his sense of duty and break Caeda's heart. Unfortunately, this act of bravery and kindness means nothing after what she does to Hardin.
Political marriages have always been a thing, and more often than not only one of the two actually have feelings for one another. I get that. But Nyna is the one who particularly chooses Hardin, knowing how much he loves her, and then proceeds to not even attempt to show him the affection he deserves after all he does for her and her people. She isn't even honest with him about why she doesn't show him affection, and this makes Hardin spiral down hard as he thinks it's his fault. Hardin should never have accepted the dark orb from Gharnef, but it is arguable that the one who pushed Hardin into that very situation was Nyna, meaning the War of Heroes and the deaths of thousands are because she wanted to act like a good ruler and wife but didn't follow through at all. Even Camus ends up moving on with Tatiana, because he accepts reality that their time together was over and Tatiana had earned his love. It's actually kind of fitting that she abdicates the throne to Marth and ends up alone, because to be honest she kind of deserved it after all she did. I personally feel 0 guilt if I kill her during the FE12 endgame, won't lie. She's my Makalov.
Thanks for reminding me how much I despise her. She just came off as whiny, self-centered, and needlessly angsty when it came to Camus.
Great video as always! It was a joy to voice act for, and I loved watching it! Keep up the good work!
Thanks very much and thanks for doing such an excellent job as Astrid and Micaiah.
28:12 is that a jab at mangs lol
Amazing work once again. Love the editing, and your reasoning does sound reasonable. Also, that was a PERFECT dis to EA.
The voice actings are so good and funny! I can see they are actually having fun!(Aside from the guy who has to voice Izuka. Poor man)
I kind of like the concept behind Garon and how disappointing he was than I remember that the Garon we knew for most of them game was a puppet using his corpse controlled by the true villain. This might sound odd but did we really know Garon or just the minion of the Deep Dragon using his body as a shell?
God you hit the nail on the head with Garron and Validar. It is one thing to be a one note monster, as that can be fun in its own right and can make a great imposing threat to have to destroy (see so many other Fire Emblem bad guys who are about as deep as kiddie pools but are still super memorable and fun) but both of them screw it up. They are not even fun to hate like Gangrel or Hans. They are that unitresting.
My very quick list and why:10. Lucina: Marth three, and also, she is completely inconsequential to Awakening's already subpar story. You could remove her entirely, and the story would barely change, if at all. She is flat (personality-wise), and doesn't do anything of value. 9. Nyna: The way she treated Hardin was flat-out disgusting8. Nowi: Jail-Bait7.Validar: Cartoony.Garon: Wasted potential.Iago: So Cartoony that he is flat out, a joke.Xander: He is completely incoherent. The way he acts and the way he speaks do not match.Corrin: Worst main character in the franchise. He is not very smart, and because he represents you, it makes him that much more infuriating. They write him to be a mary sue, but he fails even at that.Peri: She makes absolutely no sense. While I have a friend that really likes her, her existence is a paradox. She doesn't fit in the story and setting that she is in. The fact that she works Under Xander makes no sense. She is also not redeemed by the fact that she bakes cakes.1. Camilla: I have many reasons to dislike Camilla. I do not feel that she is a well-developped character, and I honestly find her obsession with her younger brother (especially in a sexual way) to be downright creepy. I am not into the whole "Motherly lover" play. It disgusts me to my very core. Sadly enough, Camilla is so blatantly oversexualized (even in cutscenes), that it would prevent any legitimate character-building, if there was any in the first place. She also represents a direction in the Fire Emblem series that I am not very fond of. The obsession with characters with an overplayed personality quirk that makes up almost all of that character's basic interactions is something that I cannot get behind, especially after playing Tellius and Valentia games, which excelled at creating great multifaceted characters for the most part. While I dislike her, it is more her "influence" that rubs me the wrong way.The reason i do not mind Faye as much is because the characters around her actually acknowledge how deranged her mindset is. She even gets rejected. It makes it at the very least feel more normal. People not batting an eye at Camilla's weird behaviour is strange to me. While I am not the biggest fan of Tharja, at least, people do question her behaviour.
did you only play the ds and 3ds games?
Only game I did not play were Thracia and Genealogy.
Honestly I think if Faye was in Fates she would have been a good character with the extra supports
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Fire emblem faye
While it makes me sad, I don't mind and understand that hate Faye gets, as she has many flaws, and isn't deep in any way.
But... "hostile to others for moronic reasons"? "unjustified obsession"? I don't think those points are correct.
For the 1st point, gossip usually isn't a good act, and I find it perfectly normal for Faye to be put off by someone she only recently met start gossiping about her friends. I sure wouldn't like that, and as I'm not a fan of gossip myself, I understand her reaction. Granted, she could have answered Silque with less annoyance in her voice, but the point stands. As for her B support, I'd say Faye's reluctance makes even more sense, considering the one Silque is offering to gossip is Alm. Considering Faye's obsession over Alm, it makes sense she wouldn't want to gossip about him behind his back. If she's got anything to say about/to him, do it while he's there. Another thing to consider are the messages of Echoes, one of which is progress vs stagnation. Celica represents moving forward, while Faye represents the status quo, and their personalities back that up. Having her not accept Silque until later plays off that, and keep Faye consistant.
For the 2nd point, I guess it's more subjective, but the events of the Prologue + the fact she prefers things to not change and believed they would always remain in Ram (and had no reason to think otherwise), I feel makes her obsession justified, to some extent at least. I see the event of almost getting killed by Slayde as traumatizing for Faye, even moreso considering she was the first target. Out of the kids, Faye's the one who was grabbed by Slayde's men, and Slayde was literally about to chop her head off when Alm arrived, and his attention drifted. Right before the Prologue battle, Faye and Kliff are the most terrified and can't stop crying. Alm's intervention is what stopped Slayde from killing Faye. It's hinted she already loved Alm before then, but since he pretty much saved her life, and was the most courageous of all the kids, inspiring courage in them, Faye's love for him naturally increased hundredfold.
Faye has several problems, stemming from both her personality and Echoes' general lack of supports for half the cast. Her base conversation in Act 3 is borderline ill-intentioned, and she says "Alm" a couple dozen times too much for my taste. However, I can't help but think the hate she gets, while justified, is often overblown.
Sorry for the wall of text. Great video.
I was playing Corrin in Smash when you got to Corrin on the video. At least Smash can be a place where Corrin can be worth a crap.
Ah, hearing samgrace gives me life :3 Great video as always!)
Also, that Mangs reference was nice, I really hope these little humorous jabs at each other will help you both get over your differences and we'll at least have a chance to witness the two of you in the same Rival Bromains (:
That last scene makes me want Marcia for Fire Emblem Heroes. Jesus..
This made my day. Great info on each character, and the edits made me laugh so hard.
I can't tell if you're ranking this based on how they're written, or how evil of a character they're supposed to be.
I don't get why you chose villains who are supposed to be despised or hated. Garon and Valibar makes sense because they are terribly written and all, but Desmond and Izuka actually do their respective job at being hated villains even if they feel two dimensional. Some characters are made to do specific things and even if you find it horrible or not that's stuff that keep you invested in the story and want to bring them to an end. In Makalov's case, however, he is suppose to be a good guy, but shows absolutely no redeeming qualities compared to how many bad things he does. Oliver is a fat bishop that's obsessed with Heron and keeps coming back because it is apparently funny, but this guy is supposed to be a villain turning into a good guy and...yeah we don't really have anything that shows he is a good person.
Point is, I feel you mixed worst characters and worse human being. And if you feel like Izuka does terrible things, Manfroy is worse.
In my opinion, Desmond's reasoning for the extremely over the top ways he tortured were actually moronic. "POISONING YOUR SON! REALLY!?" He was just an average guy who only hates his son because of insecurity and paranoia and not true malice, not even seeing Zephiel only excels because of his admiration of his father, not natural skill. He's not evil, he's just a bitch. That's not just a bad character, but a horrible person too, and he did make the disclaimer that some of his choices were also on their actions, not just writing, and personalities are a part of a character in general, otherwise, Sonya, Gharnef, Ashnard, and Xander would all be on this list too if it was so black and white. TV Tropes lists him under Asshole Victim as well, one of the most hated tropes period.
@@yusifudo46 despite being over the top you still get why he wants to kill his son. The point of this character was to show what made Zephiel a villain in the first place and he does his job well considering nobody likes him and you sympathize with Zephiel. That's not a bad character because he does fulfill his role in the story and you can easily understand his motivation.
I just feel this list of bad characters started with actual bad ones and then was interrupted with those you're not even suppose to like.
While it might sound that characters like Faye would get a pass because of my argument of "that's the goal of this character", it doesnt excuse the fact that as a character you're supposed to root for she doesnt have ANYTHING apart from her obsession with Alm. Other characters like Catria and Cordelia have shown more to them than just their one sided agenda, so why cant Faye have anything we can relate to?
@@SuperFrancoco Except, he's not really what you consider a villain. He's just a straight up generic punk bitch. Sonya (Nino's adoptive mother) is exactly the same way, but gets cool points (and other Black Fang members) as she does by actually having villainous intent and actual makes good on her threats and capabilities, along with actually being cunning. Desmond is just a weakling and nothing else and no one likes him because he's basically just Makalov is to Marcia and Astrid. He's not evil, just unbearably irresponsible. There's a difference. Even his wife gets over on him.
phew, thought serra would be in this list cause of the thumbnail....
oh and great list blazingknight!
Oh, boy... during the last part with that full-blown rant on Makalov, I can only imagine what every good big brother in the franchise would have to say about him.
28:17 Nice, throwing shade at Mangs.
How is peri not on this list? Her psychopathic attitude is bad enough, but her supports make other better characters look worse with about one or two exceptions! If someone can give me a redeeming quality that has to do with her CHARACTER and not her abilities in combat, I’d love to hear it.
I feel like I'm one of the only people who likes Faye ... but her character could have been better
@Julian Es El Mejor Good to know I'm not the only one xD
So Faye’s character is basically a fire emblem version of sakura from Naruto
Even sakura was not that bad to me
I saw Corrin in the thumbnail and that made me sad
Arcardo, Roatz, and Desmond may not be likeable characters, but personally I think they are still "good" characters in the way that they have clearly defined personalities that are consistent throughout the game. The other "worst" characters in this list are one-dimensional, unrealistic and poorly developed, so I don't think these three fit with the others.
*Makalov is in your party now*
me: -removes his weapons;
-put him in the front lines;
me: BE GONE AND NEVER COME BACK!!!
(and IS pls, for the love of god! don't put this guy in FEH!)
Hey, at least in PoR he can serve as someone's EXP!
but if he gets put in heroes, that means you can take him down without consequences should he be randomly selected as an enemy. maybe there might be jabs at him referencing just how despised he is
Just thought I’d mention that Meg does not have a romantic subplot with Zihark she thinks she has a romantic subplot with Zihark it is clearly stated Zihark hasn’t loved a woman and never will after his ex girlfriend died
I killed makalov with his sister in PoR. I refuse to use him. Even if his a good unit
I mean he kinda mediocre at best in PoR but nah hes terrible in RD. So honestly id not try to use him if u dont want to.
"Luck is the best stat" Sounds like something Mangs would say.
If I could like a video one thousand times I would. Makalov is my least favourite character in FE and the only one I actually hate. I usually just ignore characters I'm not a fan of, never outright hating them, but Makalov was introduced to me during a very difficult time. Not only is he a shitty character but he reminds me of memories I'd rather forget. 0/1000000 >:l
Ignoring the rant above, I really enjoyed the video. Your usage of words always brings a smile to my face and it was well formatted.
Well I'm happy you'd be willing to give my video so many likes, thanks very much.
I can relate.
Idea for rewriting Makalov: have him start out as usual (selfish, frivolous, etc), but over the course of the games he learns the true meaning of bonds and companions, and he realizes that he feels much better when he's around people. With this new mindset, he only gambles when others are around to play and cares more about fun than constantly winning. It could show an uphill battle against getting over an addiction or something
That short clip of Izuka being thrown out like Jazz had me rolling.
19:50 My favorite part, well did you expect would happen Takumi!?
#blameTakumi
I honestly thought that Izuka was the only candidate for the worst character ever before this video. Makalov actually got me upset when he wanted to make a bet with his sister. WHAT in the name of Yune and Ashera does Astrid see in this disgraceful, lazy, and borderline garbage dump of a man!?
the only way i can justify her interest in him is that she is the "i can change him" kind of girl, where she purposely gets in a relationship with a despicable guy in hopes that she can make him a better person
The sad part is if they A support in RD then their ending shows that she was never able to change him.
@@BLAZINGKNIGHT50 Makalov doesn't deserve her. Sure, I guess anyone would be better than Lekain who goes for the gold in the biggest piece of shit Olympics, but... the pink haired buffoon is not the one.
As cliche and over done as Faye is, at least it feels like there was some closure with Alm's A support.
When Lyre first appears
"Hey everybody, Lyre's the new Meg"
"Lyre's the new Meg. Lyre's the new Meg"
Meg : "Ya, you're the new me"
"Shut up Meg"
Hopefully in the Tellius Remake Makalov gets perma killed and/or Stays as Enemy Unit.
Keep Astrid AWAY from him
Corrin in the downloadable expansion for Fire Emblem Fates is more flushed out.