As a recently passed AFF student I can remember very clearly my first exit and flight. I did four practice pulls and then completely forgot everything else including pulling at 6000ft. It was a case of sensory overload and basically being awestruck by the occasion. The following jump went much better and not forgetting to pull was paramount.... A gentle introduction into the wonderful world of skydiving my friend. Hope you're you're still jumping.
Yeah I agree with you, I just did my first solo jump last Friday, my first aff jump I forgot every signal, especially legs out, but I did manage to pull at the correct altitude
Man....... i am soo relieved to hear something like this. I just did an AFF jump and did one COA, my practice pulls, forgot the second COA, then just passed 5500 and missed my wave off. As i was about to reach, PUFF!! My chute was pulled by one of the instructors. This was yesterday. Been beating myself up bad about it. I jumped AFF 1 16 years agi but i forgot how completely overwhelming it is.
Mikhail Kurskiy Hope your getting of that break soon :) Did my fifth this weekend on a Airvan boogie and my sixth comeing up the next, after that i only need a HM to get the rest of my jumps compleated :D
Ah, the completely overwhelming experience of a first AFF jump :) I remember it too... Legs all over the place, arms flailing out of control. I needed the "pull-sign" 3 times before I realized that I was approaching 5000 ft. and still hadn't pulled. I am very grateful my instructors gave me that extra 500 ft. to let me pull on my own :-).
Lol, the exact same thing happened to me! I went through everything (practice pulls etc.) without any hassle and was just waiting for the right altitude to pull, but once we reached that altitude I just kept staring into my instructor's eyes... Haha, I felt so dumb afterwards when they pulled it for me: I was so focused on getting everything else right, I forgot about the single most important thing lol! After I came to that realization, I was so flabbergasted I couldn't locate the designated landing zone, so I ended up a fair distance from where I was supposed to be. That was a long walk of shame...
+pierrealechinsky Same here! Had everything right, had my hand on the pilot and my eyes on the altimeter and then suddenly I just looked at my main instructor and shrugged. Ended up with a line twist and a bad landing but no worse for wear, went back the next day and passed. Great body position throughout, I bet this diver doesn't have problems like this anymore!
+pierrealechinsky Your instructor should have given you the one-finger sign to tell you to pull. Since you were looking at him. At least give one try at that before pulling it himself.
When I started my AFF I did the exact same thing. Must be a brain fart for first timers. Did all my progressions fine, 3 practice pulls, body arch was fine, but kept forgetting to check my altimeter. Instructor had his hand right in my face giving me the 'zero' to check altimeter over and over. Finally I came out of my stupor and pulled at 5,500 ft even tho the wave off was supposed to be 7k. Felt like SUCH an idiot and needless to say my coach made me do my lvl 1 jump over. Atleast now I've progressed to lvl 5 and have good body control and landing hasn't ever been a problem.
Great post ! There are many out there who would NEVER admit they did the same as this guy. They would criticize and give him hell over it. Takes a big guy, with a small ego to admit shit happens to ALL of us. Safe skies !
That was a damn good exit and very stable FF for Level 1 Mikhail, you did great and missing the Pull signal isn't uncommon at that stage of the AFF process. Really nice dummy pulls, all in all I was impressed with this jump, Blue skies forever!
+Dave Chapman I did something similar on my AFF level 2. fortunately I managed to deploy myself and Passed. But I did not pull until around 4,000 ft. Luckily I had a great instructor. I was having too much fun for 1500 ft lol.
I passed my aff last week and I have to say that I'd be proud if I had done such a good session for the first level 😂 And yeah the dummy pulls are really good. A bit too fast but still.
I am glad I learned skydiving using a T-10 and later switched to squares, jump nbr 90 was a night jump and nbr 100 out of a balloon and went roaming all over Europe skydiving and ended up with The Golden Knights at GAP, France doing training jumps. Nice to remember!
@ysoner :) yep, everything was ok, until altitude of pull. reserve instuctor showed signal "altitude", but i didn't saw it. than he started to shaking me - and as we agree before jump - it means "relax" :) so... i was relaxing at the moment of pulling, next in 0.2 seconds i tried to pull but chute already gone :) ... it was only one missed jump during aff :) now it's funny to see it :))) in my video there is aff-7 jump - it was good :)
@leightonlima The thumb down means "bend" or "push your hips down" which ever expression you like. The other signs used were "loosen up"(the flapping of the hand in front of his face), "check your altitude"(the instructor shaking the students wrist) and "your doing ok" or "your situation is ok"(thumb up). The only one I see is different from the ones used were "deploy your chute!" and check your altitude, to which the student didn't seem to response at all.
the second instructor shakes me at the moment - so i thought that i should relax and arch more. the next second i pull - but chute already gone :) not bad for the first jump - besides it was only one missed jump during my aff course
This was the best exit and free fall for AAF level 1...ever !!! Super exit...great control by the JMs, nice arch, good camera work, altitude aware, just pull when you see the "signal". But not a big deal everyone starts somewhere.
it's sport man, it's real exciting sport :) that's why. this video is not about bragging, it's about mistake on the 1st aff level. the main thing - keep looking on the altimeter. not watch from time to time - but keep watching during whole jump.
It was my biggest fear before my AFF 1! I was so scared to forget I had to pull! I've been just fine haha! Nice jump buddy! don't forget to pull next time! Nice position :)
you know, i actually don't understand what do you mean. but i try to answer 1. first of all - packing. you can do it yourself or you can give it to special people - riggers. 2. check while packing - every node of the parachute system. 3. turn on special equipment - cypress. 4. check before jump - every node infront of chute and behind of chute. 5. in the plane - check cutaway cord and ring of reserve chute. something like this.
And you should ALWAYS know and/or check your altimeter every few seconds. That ground comes at you alot faster then you think. Of course, I'm sure you got repremanded for this once you got on the ground. In short, skydiving is hella fun... but just one minor mistake during any jump has the potential of making it your last. Just my 2 cents.
I jumped and pulled my ripcord but the chute never opened. I tumbled for about a 1000 feet then had to pull my reserve. When I landed I realised I didnt pull my rip cord with enough force. The team made me jump again the next day - I was terrified but I used about 500 pound of pressure to pull that time as I did not want to go through that again. I am still terrified of heights
Unless you been there ... alot of shit is going through your head in your AFF, the hand signals, the shaking, altitude aware etc etc and alot of times like myself your first jump was a solo, so everything is NEW. Thanx for sharing champ, hope ya doing well.
In my DZ it means "arch" . Three signals for arch: thumbs down, flat horizontal hand and shake. Signal for relax is a shaking hand. I guess they try to emphasize the importance of arching as much as possible.
Did my first tandem a week or so ago, it was amazing. Looking to do AFF course, and this is the reason why haven't already signed up. The free fall experience was so good I was dissapointed when the chute opened, and I fear I'd have a tendency to open there chute late or not at all aha
I hear ya. It was nothing personal. I wasnt perfect when I started. I had a couple of close-calls that nearly got me thrown off the DZ. (ie, I lost awarness when learning how to do a backward flip. I tumbled end-over-end for about a 1000 feet before I came out of the tumble, got stable & threw my chute a few seconds before my ADD wouldve went off. 5 jumps later, I nearly flew into the broadside of a hanger). You got over a 120 jumps and a C license so apparently you are doing something right.
The same thing has happened to me twice now on AFF level 1. My timing is off. Both times I went to lock on my altimeter at 6500ft and by the time I get a good visual on it, I see 5000ft, so I go to pull and my instructors have already pulled for me. I had crazy nerves on my first attempt and I totally forgot the hand signals. I interpreted thumbs down as "bad PPCP, try again." I did 4 PPCT's instead of 3 and ran out of time. Not sure what happened the second time. I try again next week.
It looks to me like he did a good job and was a second late getting to the rip cord. When he got the signal to arch, it appeared he arched....but, yes, he didn't pull I assume by the minimum altitude.
@ysoner thanks ;) no, i didn't - i jumped with army circle parachute with manual pulling 5 years before this jump. it was stable - so i didn't forget everything :)))
@noobrider100 Megapixels is really just a measurement of resolution/size(length x width in pixels) of a picture not quality(sharpness, clearness, color reproduction). I'm assuming they use dslr cameras, which would absolutely get way better quality and higher resolution pictures, hence their size and price. But hey, to each his own, size vs quality
dude, I did the same thing! I was expecting the two instructors to let go of me before I pulled but they didn't (i thought they had their arms in my harness and me pulling would fuck them up!) so it ended up being about 3500 when one of the guys pulled it for me. didn't fail though mind!
Notice how SMOOTH the student was?. No bouncing around like a normal AFF1. I agree with a previous poster. There was no pull signal given. The student was clearly waving off and about to pull. I would've given him another second.
Main problem is not to check altimeter more often and not to check it from time to time. But you should watch at altimeter for few seconds to understand the altitude. It's like when you watch on clock and the next second you don't remember what time is it. In the sky there is a lot of adrenaline - so you will not understand the altitude at the moment. The best way is to watch at altimeter whole the time after exercise - and everything will be ok :) Jump safe :) and welcome to the sky :)
How'd it go? Just finished level 4 myself today. At this point gonna cost me a bit of money, failed level 2 and 3 and had to do both again. Bye Bye $500.00 :'(
That pesky altimeter, eh? We should watch that every few seconds cuz the ground is coming and it's sneaky and deadly. I know there's sensory overload the first few jumps but man oh man, it's a habit that you need to get in to if you want to jump. Glad you passed. Good Luck man!
reserve instuctor showed signal "altitude", but i didn't saw it. than he started to shaking me - and as we agree before jump - it means "relax" :) so... i was relaxing at the moment of pulling, next in 0.2 seconds i tried to pull but chute already gone :)
Shout out to the dude with the 30lb helmet cam! It’s crazy how far we’ve come! You can shoot better quality from a wrist watch. Good job on the chute pull
Level 1 of Aff doesn't require you to open your parachute. At least in France. It's nice if you do it but being relaxed and holding a good posture is already enough. What puzzles me in this video is the left instructor's legs with their very angular bend.
@leightonlima Thumbs down is a hand signal that means to arch your body more. Also you can see the instructor shake his is own hand in front of the student meaning to relax.
I am planning on doing my AFF level 1 very soon. The main problem I saw (apart from him not opening his parachute) was that he didn't check his altimeter often enough. Then at the end he was too focused on it and never open his chute. Could a more experienced diver tell me if I am right/wrong?
@mkurskiy hahah OK. Unfortunate that you had to pay for another jump since this one looks great especially for a first time jump. Did you spend time in a wind tunnel before this?
i didn't forget ;) :) everything was ok, until altitude of pull. reserve instuctor showed signal "altitude", but i didn't saw it. than he started to shaking me - and as we agree before jump - it means "relax" :) so... i was relaxing at the moment of pulling, next in 0.2 seconds i tried to pull but chute already gone :)
not bad jump at all man glad to read you passed your course aswell :) i still remember when i done the course many years ago alot of fun are you going to start BASE aswell .. ?? at the moment me and my friend are just finishing up out Norway and Euro Trip vid so i will send you the link when ive uploaded it :)
***** I got it that moment actually. I just forget about control - maybe for 1 or 2 seconds. Student should control altitude all the time, should watching all the time to the altimeter. But I was looking forward and watching to the altimeter just for a moment, and than forward again. So I was late to pull about 0.5 second later, at ua-cam.com/video/GVcXK8i4ASk/v-deo.html&t=96, when intructor already pulled my chute :)
Well look around at some of the instructors on here and all I can say is I would jump with yours any day, they stayed calm and communicated giving you every signal correctly. Did you get disoriented or freeze up? he signaled you to deploy.
+Zak Hoyt Line twists are actually fairly common on AFF jumps. Usually caused by the instructor riding through the deployment, which is what he's supposed to do.
keeponwishin I didn't know that they were common on AFF jumps. I heard that they happen a lot on static line jumps though. How does the instructor holding on during deployment cause that?
Zak Hoyt The main side instructor lets go as soon as the handle is pulled. The reserve side instructor hangs on until the student gets pulled out of his grip. That could often mean one riser is offset from the other during deployment. Also, if for whatever reason, the reserve side instructor can't keep the student from turning during deployment (usually due to significant height and/or weight difference) that could also cause line twists on opening.
keeponwishin Oh ok thanks for clarifying for me. I always thought that both instructors hang on until they get pulled away from the grippers. I did the static line progression so I don't know too much on AFF student progression. I actually only ever had one line twist on a static line jump. I'm still a noob so I don't have much experience. How often would you say that students get line twists during an AFF jump? Do they happen more often once students progress to only having one instructor?
Usually by the time students progress to one instructor, they are able to pull by themselves and the instructor doesn't have to hold on, except for maybe the first one or two with one instructor. Usually, as long as the instructor is about the same size as the student, line twists aren't a problem. Even if they do happen, they are usually easy to get out of on docile student canopies.
I had the week there but could only jump 2 days due to weather. Level 1 2 and 3 went really well. Passed 1st time, but on my level 4 the full release I had a nightmare! Span out with back to earth. Scary shit instructor had to pull for me at 8k due to my main container comming open! (Bad packing lol) that really knocked my confidence and failed the level again after, not stable enough. So cost me another £50. Might try a wind tunnel to get some stability control. Hope yours is going better.
This was like the most Perfect level ive seen ... Perfect Arch did the calls Perfectly .. right on time .. calm the way down ... Literally could not have been better for a first jump ... THEN ... gets the sign for altimeter im guessing around 6300 .. and he just gives the death stare like nothing is happening frozen ... doesnt look at altimeter ... a bit weird honestly .. instructors main instinct to pull the chute for you .. MAN WHAT HAPPENED ?
Its a good thing to be a little nervous, We were all there. Lol if you did a tandem and liked it enough to do aff then you will love this sport. And if you fail a level... no biggie, just try and fix what made you fail it. Practice, Practice, Practice. When your at home doing nothing, go through your dive flow and learn it so you show up the the dz prepared. You will learn all about what I'm talking about in the ground school class. And don't be afraid to ask questions, that's what the instructors are thede for. What Drop zone are you taking the class at?
Skydive Miami in Homestead, FL. What I haven't said is that I freaked out during the tandem jump. I screamed and swore the whole way down, both from fear and a lot of exhilaration. Once we landed, I was excited for two days. The adrenalin was incredible. The scariest part for me is when they opened door and I heard the roar of the wind. I started to cry a little. I won't even post the video on here because of my reaction. My jump master couldn't stop laughing at me. My concern is that I wasn't as scared jumping tandem because I had an expert controlling everything. What if I forget something once I'm up there, especially when controlling my canopy? My daughter was so excited from her tandem jump that she starts her AFF course in two weeks. The difference is her jump master and instructor is a good friend of hers. He's been teaching her things every day prior to her class beginning. Her DZ is outside of Phoenix. My DZ wants me to do jumps one and two on Saturday morning. My class is this Friday. I've been reading everything that I can online prior to my class, so I have some knowledge of skydiving. What if I get up there and my mind goes blank? This isn't like my SAT's. SAT's won't kill you. Sorry for the manifesto.
@valimoman "pull" for him? Or for me? For me it was no "pull" - I was wathing for altitude and alt of pulling was exactly 1500m, as we agry on the ground with main jump master.
funny as! he looks so relaxed he just completely forgets about altitude awareness. funny how the sensory overload has different effects on different people. so long as you dont make the same mistake on jump 9 you'll be fine!!
As far as I know student does not open its parachute on level 1. As you can see you show that you can open. And after student does the move teachers said ok by thumbs up. So where is the fail?
Cardinal Rule of Skydiving: Altitude awareness!!... altitude awareness!!.... altitude awareness!! Skydiving is not unlke driving in that you must always be aware not only of your altitude & situation... but also, of what everyone else is doing around you. If you stay in the sport long enough, you will eventually run into a knucklehead who isnt paying attention and/or will blatantly do something stupid or reckless that can affect you, too, as a fellow jumper.
@stealttiFIN as we agree on the ground - alt of pulling should be 1500m. so the second jump master (to the left of me - right sight on the video) - was too nervious :) so as me :)))
@WormHoleFusion relax, don't be so nervious. how - first of all to relax, try fully exhale. altitude - look at altimeter all the time, permanently. and try to spell altitutde to focus on it. don't try to look on altimeter from time to time - but look permanently, and spell altutide. you'll do it ;)
If level fails you should go though it again. Just though failed level. As much times as you need :) and of course pay for every jump. first 3 level are most expensive - two instructors. I passed AFF course with only one failed level, this one :)
As a recently passed AFF student I can remember very clearly my first exit and flight. I did four practice pulls and then completely forgot everything else including pulling at 6000ft. It was a case of sensory overload and basically being awestruck by the occasion. The following jump went much better and not forgetting to pull was paramount....
A gentle introduction into the wonderful world of skydiving my friend.
Hope you're you're still jumping.
Yeah I agree with you, I just did my first solo jump last Friday, my first aff jump I forgot every signal, especially legs out, but I did manage to pull at the correct altitude
Good to hear you're keeping it up. I've just completed my 10 consolidation jumps and I'm really enjoying the fun.
Man....... i am soo relieved to hear something like this. I just did an AFF jump and did one COA, my practice pulls, forgot the second COA, then just passed 5500 and missed my wave off. As i was about to reach, PUFF!! My chute was pulled by one of the instructors. This was yesterday. Been beating myself up bad about it. I jumped AFF 1 16 years agi but i forgot how completely overwhelming it is.
Tim Aldridge Thx :)
Actually - a little pause :) but I'll be back, I hope soon :)
Mikhail Kurskiy Hope your getting of that break soon :) Did my fifth this weekend on a Airvan boogie and my sixth comeing up the next, after that i only need a HM to get the rest of my jumps compleated :D
Ah, the completely overwhelming experience of a first AFF jump :) I remember it too... Legs all over the place, arms flailing out of control. I needed the "pull-sign" 3 times before I realized that I was approaching 5000 ft. and still hadn't pulled. I am very grateful my instructors gave me that extra 500 ft. to let me pull on my own :-).
Lol, the exact same thing happened to me! I went through everything (practice pulls etc.) without any hassle and was just waiting for the right altitude to pull, but once we reached that altitude I just kept staring into my instructor's eyes... Haha, I felt so dumb afterwards when they pulled it for me: I was so focused on getting everything else right, I forgot about the single most important thing lol! After I came to that realization, I was so flabbergasted I couldn't locate the designated landing zone, so I ended up a fair distance from where I was supposed to be. That was a long walk of shame...
+pierrealechinsky Same here! Had everything right, had my hand on the pilot and my eyes on the altimeter and then suddenly I just looked at my main instructor and shrugged. Ended up with a line twist and a bad landing but no worse for wear, went back the next day and passed. Great body position throughout, I bet this diver doesn't have problems like this anymore!
+pierrealechinsky
Your instructor should have given you the one-finger sign to tell you to pull. Since you were looking at him. At least give one try at that before pulling it himself.
+Mondo agree
When I started my AFF I did the exact same thing. Must be a brain fart for first timers. Did all my progressions fine, 3 practice pulls, body arch was fine, but kept forgetting to check my altimeter. Instructor had his hand right in my face giving me the 'zero' to check altimeter over and over. Finally I came out of my stupor and pulled at 5,500 ft even tho the wave off was supposed to be 7k. Felt like SUCH an idiot and needless to say my coach made me do my lvl 1 jump over. Atleast now I've progressed to lvl 5 and have good body control and landing hasn't ever been a problem.
Great post ! There are many out there who would NEVER admit they did the same as this guy. They would criticize and give him hell over it. Takes a big guy, with a small ego to admit shit happens to ALL of us. Safe skies !
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That was a damn good exit and very stable FF for Level 1 Mikhail, you did great and missing the Pull signal isn't uncommon at that stage of the AFF process. Really nice dummy pulls, all in all I was impressed with this jump, Blue skies forever!
Dave Chapman thanks :)
+Dave Chapman I did something similar on my AFF level 2. fortunately I managed to deploy myself and Passed. But I did not pull until around 4,000 ft. Luckily I had a great instructor. I was having too much fun for 1500 ft lol.
I passed my aff last week and I have to say that I'd be proud if I had done such a good session for the first level 😂
And yeah the dummy pulls are really good. A bit too fast but still.
@@greg5478 WTG Shane!! Hope you have a SAFE, fun & exciting time in our sport, Blue Skies!
@@NYCmadeME How many jumps have you logged in these 5 years, you still going? Blue Skies!
I am glad I learned skydiving using a T-10 and later switched to squares, jump nbr 90 was a night jump and nbr 100 out of a balloon and went roaming all over Europe skydiving and ended up with The Golden Knights at GAP, France doing training jumps. Nice to remember!
Hey I screwed my level 1 too that was 13 years ago but you overcome it and remember the next time. Keep it up
@ysoner :) yep, everything was ok, until altitude of pull.
reserve instuctor showed signal "altitude", but i didn't saw it. than he started to shaking me - and as we agree before jump - it means "relax" :) so... i was relaxing at the moment of pulling, next in 0.2 seconds i tried to pull but chute already gone :)
... it was only one missed jump during aff :) now it's funny to see it :)))
in my video there is aff-7 jump - it was good :)
Yeah I could see you were looking off to the side.
@leightonlima The thumb down means "bend" or "push your hips down" which ever expression you like. The other signs used were "loosen up"(the flapping of the hand in front of his face), "check your altitude"(the instructor shaking the students wrist) and "your doing ok" or "your situation is ok"(thumb up). The only one I see is different from the ones used were "deploy your chute!" and check your altitude, to which the student didn't seem to response at all.
The instructors were like "PULL IT DAMMIT PULL IT!!!!" and the dudes just casually looking around not even reacting to their signals!
the second instructor shakes me at the moment - so i thought that i should relax and arch more.
the next second i pull - but chute already gone :)
not bad for the first jump - besides it was only one missed jump during my aff course
This was the best exit and free fall for AAF level 1...ever !!!
Super exit...great control by the JMs, nice arch, good camera work, altitude aware, just pull when you see the "signal". But not a big deal everyone starts somewhere.
Thx :)
It was a long time ago - now pulling at the right moment :)
it's sport man, it's real exciting sport :) that's why.
this video is not about bragging, it's about mistake on the 1st aff level.
the main thing - keep looking on the altimeter. not watch from time to time - but keep watching during whole jump.
It was my biggest fear before my AFF 1! I was so scared to forget I had to pull! I've been just fine haha!
Nice jump buddy! don't forget to pull next time! Nice position :)
then how didnt u die?
You can tell that was just a smooth AFF. Hope to see some more good videos. Jump safe.
@leightonlima thumbs down is the hand signal to extend your hips in order to make a better arch form
Damn that's a badass exit and stable flying. Not sure if paralised by fear or talented. Just get back up there and pull this time ;-)
you know, i actually don't understand what do you mean.
but i try to answer
1. first of all - packing. you can do it yourself or you can give it to special people - riggers.
2. check while packing - every node of the parachute system.
3. turn on special equipment - cypress.
4. check before jump - every node infront of chute and behind of chute.
5. in the plane - check cutaway cord and ring of reserve chute.
something like this.
can someone tell me what the small section is called that jumpers cinch up after deployment, and what purpose it's for? thanx!
excellent reference, thank you, Mikhail!
I love the way you spazzed when you realised it was time to pull.
Already thinking like a skydiver... I can take this another couple thousand. Lol blue skies brother!
And you should ALWAYS know and/or check your altimeter every few seconds. That ground comes at you alot faster then you think. Of course, I'm sure you got repremanded for this once you got on the ground. In short, skydiving is hella fun... but just one minor mistake during any jump has the potential of making it your last. Just my 2 cents.
@mike96786 yep :) there was no "pull" signal given :) - but was signal "altitude". altitude was about 1500-1600m. - it was the the first level of aff.
That must never get old.
I jumped and pulled my ripcord but the chute never opened. I tumbled for about a 1000 feet then had to pull my reserve. When I landed I realised I didnt pull my rip cord with enough force. The team made me jump again the next day - I was terrified but I used about 500 pound of pressure to pull that time as I did not want to go through that again. I am still terrified of heights
Ripcord? When did you jump, the 60s?
@@jaffacalling53 this man said the 60s 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@romanianfps Ok then what, 70s? Early 80s? The hand tossed pilot chute has been the standard for awhile now.
@@jaffacalling53 That boy probably talking about his time serving in WW2
@@romanianfps Maybe he's a civil war veteran and is detailing his harrowing experience bailing out of an observation balloon lol
hey man :) - it was the first jump with sports chute in life ;)
of course i agree with your 2 cents - now i have 120 jumps and c license :)
Unless you been there ... alot of shit is going through your head in your AFF, the hand signals, the shaking, altitude aware etc etc and alot of times like myself your first jump was a solo, so everything is NEW. Thanx for sharing champ, hope ya doing well.
I did pass, yes. I'm on coach jump #3 now (elevation control). Loving the coach jumps.
Wow, 5 second separation. that must have been a hella fast ground speed.
Yep :)
I don't believe he didn't pass - that was pretty good for his first jump! I've seen people pass who did a corkscrew mid-fall!
In my DZ it means "arch" . Three signals for arch: thumbs down, flat horizontal hand and shake. Signal for relax is a shaking hand. I guess they try to emphasize the importance of arching as much as possible.
Did my first tandem a week or so ago, it was amazing. Looking to do AFF course, and this is the reason why haven't already signed up. The free fall experience was so good I was dissapointed when the chute opened, and I fear I'd have a tendency to open there chute late or not at all aha
I enjoyed my first tandem about a month ago but my favorite part was the canopy ride down
I hear ya. It was nothing personal. I wasnt perfect when I started. I had a couple of close-calls that nearly got me thrown off the DZ. (ie, I lost awarness when learning how to do a backward flip. I tumbled end-over-end for about a 1000 feet before I came out of the tumble, got stable & threw my chute a few seconds before my ADD wouldve went off. 5 jumps later, I nearly flew into the broadside of a hanger).
You got over a 120 jumps and a C license so apparently you are doing something right.
i mean,how to setting parachute before we jump at sky diving.
The same thing has happened to me twice now on AFF level 1. My timing is off. Both times I went to lock on my altimeter at 6500ft and by the time I get a good visual on it, I see 5000ft, so I go to pull and my instructors have already pulled for me. I had crazy nerves on my first attempt and I totally forgot the hand signals. I interpreted thumbs down as "bad PPCP, try again." I did 4 PPCT's instead of 3 and ran out of time. Not sure what happened the second time. I try again next week.
It looks to me like he did a good job and was a second late getting to the rip cord. When he got the signal to arch, it appeared he arched....but, yes, he didn't pull I assume by the minimum altitude.
How to prepare a Parachute in a bag??
@ysoner thanks ;) no, i didn't - i jumped with army circle parachute with manual pulling 5 years before this jump.
it was stable - so i didn't forget everything :)))
@valimoman it was signal "Altitude", not "Pull"
@noobrider100 Megapixels is really just a measurement of resolution/size(length x width in pixels) of a picture not quality(sharpness, clearness, color reproduction). I'm assuming they use dslr cameras, which would absolutely get way better quality and higher resolution pictures, hence their size and price. But hey, to each his own, size vs quality
the second instructor shakes me at the moment - so i thought that i should relax and arch more.
the next second i pull - but chute already gone :)
dude, I did the same thing! I was expecting the two instructors to let go of me before I pulled but they didn't (i thought they had their arms in my harness and me pulling would fuck them up!) so it ended up being about 3500 when one of the guys pulled it for me. didn't fail though mind!
Notice how SMOOTH the student was?. No bouncing around like a normal AFF1. I agree with a previous poster. There was no pull signal given. The student was clearly waving off and about to pull. I would've given him another second.
What happens if you pull to early ?
wha does the thumbs up and down mean?
Main problem is not to check altimeter more often and not to check it from time to time. But you should watch at altimeter for few seconds to understand the altitude. It's like when you watch on clock and the next second you don't remember what time is it. In the sky there is a lot of adrenaline - so you will not understand the altitude at the moment.
The best way is to watch at altimeter whole the time after exercise - and everything will be ok :)
Jump safe :) and welcome to the sky :)
There was never a pull signal given, I say thr ins pulled him out to soon. What was the Alt?
Nice vid pal, i start my AFF next Monday 2cnd june, shitting a brick lol
How'd it go? Just finished level 4 myself today. At this point gonna cost me a bit of money, failed level 2 and 3 and had to do both again. Bye Bye $500.00 :'(
Nice
yep :) instructors are good both :)
main instructor fourfold world champion in 4th rw, 8000+ jumps :)
That pesky altimeter, eh? We should watch that every few seconds cuz the ground is coming and it's sneaky and deadly. I know there's sensory overload the first few jumps but man oh man, it's a habit that you need to get in to if you want to jump. Glad you passed. Good Luck man!
reserve instuctor showed signal "altitude", but i didn't saw it. than he started to shaking me - and as we agree before jump - it means "relax" :) so... i was relaxing at the moment of pulling, next in 0.2 seconds i tried to pull but chute already gone :)
Shout out to the dude with the 30lb helmet cam! It’s crazy how far we’ve come! You can shoot better quality from a wrist watch. Good job on the chute pull
Someone on the back of the plane actually has a gopro, you can see. gopro was founded in 2002.
Level 1 of Aff doesn't require you to open your parachute. At least in France. It's nice if you do it but being relaxed and holding a good posture is already enough.
What puzzles me in this video is the left instructor's legs with their very angular bend.
@mkurskiy 11 megapixels isn't good quality? lol
Im no expert but was he getting the thumbs down due to not checking his altitude or Pilot chute regularly enough???
@leightonlima Thumbs down is a hand signal that means to arch your body more. Also you can see the instructor shake his is own hand in front of the student meaning to relax.
Hehee :D
I love the way the instructors take turns trying to wake her up and then just look at each other like: What you think? Let her fall or??
I am planning on doing my AFF level 1 very soon. The main problem I saw (apart from him not opening his parachute) was that he didn't check his altimeter often enough. Then at the end he was too focused on it and never open his chute.
Could a more experienced diver tell me if I am right/wrong?
The bad thing about L1... You can do everything else right in freefall. You forget to pull automatic fail. Too important to forget!!
Done my 2nd tendem last week. More to come
@mkurskiy hahah OK. Unfortunate that you had to pay for another jump since this one looks great especially for a first time jump. Did you spend time in a wind tunnel before this?
i didn't forget ;)
:) everything was ok, until altitude of pull.
reserve instuctor showed signal "altitude", but i didn't saw it. than he started to shaking me - and as we agree before jump - it means "relax" :) so... i was relaxing at the moment of pulling, next in 0.2 seconds i tried to pull but chute already gone :)
not bad jump at all man glad to read you passed your course aswell :)
i still remember when i done the course many years ago alot of fun
are you going to start BASE aswell .. ??
at the moment me and my friend are just finishing up out Norway and Euro Trip vid
so i will send you the link when ive uploaded it :)
So what were you grabbing at 0:58? I thought you were reaching for the cord and couldn`t get it.
GOATyson92XXX
makes sense, thanks
***** I got it that moment actually.
I just forget about control - maybe for 1 or 2 seconds.
Student should control altitude all the time, should watching all the time to the altimeter.
But I was looking forward and watching to the altimeter just for a moment, and than forward again.
So I was late to pull about 0.5 second later, at ua-cam.com/video/GVcXK8i4ASk/v-deo.html&t=96, when intructor already pulled my chute :)
@GRjoseantonio one of that two cams - it's a photo ;)
gopro can't shot such good quality photos
Well look around at some of the instructors on here and all I can say is I would jump with yours any day, they stayed calm and communicated giving you every signal correctly. Did you get disoriented or freeze up? he signaled you to deploy.
Normal. No meu primeiro salto eu esqueci de iniciar as 03 simulações!
Lol sick line twist bro!
+Zak Hoyt Line twists are actually fairly common on AFF jumps. Usually caused by the instructor riding through the deployment, which is what he's supposed to do.
keeponwishin I didn't know that they were common on AFF jumps. I heard that they happen a lot on static line jumps though. How does the instructor holding on during deployment cause that?
Zak Hoyt The main side instructor lets go as soon as the handle is pulled. The reserve side instructor hangs on until the student gets pulled out of his grip. That could often mean one riser is offset from the other during deployment. Also, if for whatever reason, the reserve side instructor can't keep the student from turning during deployment (usually due to significant height and/or weight difference) that could also cause line twists on opening.
keeponwishin Oh ok thanks for clarifying for me. I always thought that both instructors hang on until they get pulled away from the grippers. I did the static line progression so I don't know too much on AFF student progression. I actually only ever had one line twist on a static line jump. I'm still a noob so I don't have much experience. How often would you say that students get line twists during an AFF jump? Do they happen more often once students progress to only having one instructor?
Usually by the time students progress to one instructor, they are able to pull by themselves and the instructor doesn't have to hold on, except for maybe the first one or two with one instructor. Usually, as long as the instructor is about the same size as the student, line twists aren't a problem. Even if they do happen, they are usually easy to get out of on docile student canopies.
Hey buddy where do u dive at? Im going to perris, ca
@leightonlima Nope, its the signal to lower your pelvis for a better arch position..
I had the week there but could only jump 2 days due to weather. Level 1 2 and 3 went really well. Passed 1st time, but on my level 4 the full release I had a nightmare! Span out with back to earth. Scary shit instructor had to pull for me at 8k due to my main container comming open! (Bad packing lol) that really knocked my confidence and failed the level again after, not stable enough. So cost me another £50. Might try a wind tunnel to get some stability control. Hope yours is going better.
This was like the most Perfect level ive seen ... Perfect Arch did the calls Perfectly .. right on time .. calm the way down ... Literally could not have been better for a first jump ... THEN ... gets the sign for altimeter im guessing around 6300 .. and he just gives the death stare like nothing is happening frozen ... doesnt look at altimeter ... a bit weird honestly .. instructors main instinct to pull the chute for you .. MAN WHAT HAPPENED ?
Super arch and very stable free fall.
The line twist looks like it caused by the pilot chute
it was task to simulate chute opening three times.
so simulation was successfull but actually opening wasn't.
I didn't pull my chute on my first or second jump, just froze
how can u freeze man its just a pull, is that hard for you.
Did the exact same thing on my level 2. Instructor pulled 1/2 second before I waved off. Shit sucks but I passed anyways. Now I'm stuck at level 3
can you just bo aff level 1ore do you have to bo thom all
what do you mean?
I start my AFF training course next week. Any advice, as I am a bit nervous.
Yeah. Watch the video on here of the Russian kid whose chute didn't open and the guy who lost his arm on landing. And then don't do it.
have you taken a tandem?
Yes in October.
Its a good thing to be a little nervous, We were all there. Lol if you did a tandem and liked it enough to do aff then you will love this sport. And if you fail a level... no biggie, just try and fix what made you fail it. Practice, Practice, Practice. When your at home doing nothing, go through your dive flow and learn it so you show up the the dz prepared. You will learn all about what I'm talking about in the ground school class. And don't be afraid to ask questions, that's what the instructors are thede for. What Drop zone are you taking the class at?
Skydive Miami in Homestead, FL. What I haven't said is that I freaked out during the tandem jump. I screamed and swore the whole way down, both from fear and a lot of exhilaration. Once we landed, I was excited for two days. The adrenalin was incredible. The scariest part for me is when they opened door and I heard the roar of the wind. I started to cry a little. I won't even post the video on here because of my reaction. My jump master couldn't stop laughing at me. My concern is that I wasn't as scared jumping tandem because I had an expert controlling everything. What if I forget something once I'm up there, especially when controlling my canopy? My daughter was so excited from her tandem jump that she starts her AFF course in two weeks. The difference is her jump master and instructor is a good friend of hers. He's been teaching her things every day prior to her class beginning. Her DZ is outside of Phoenix. My DZ wants me to do jumps one and two on Saturday morning. My class is this Friday. I've been reading everything that I can online prior to my class, so I have some knowledge of skydiving. What if I get up there and my mind goes blank? This isn't like my SAT's. SAT's won't kill you. Sorry for the manifesto.
@leightonlima Thumbs down meens arch more, Circle meens check you altimiter, pointing mean pull. All 3 looked to be ignored, hence the instructor pull
awsome man maybe one day we will fly together ... jump safe man ..
I failed my cat A yesterday too, trying again Sunday!!
@valimoman "pull" for him? Or for me?
For me it was no "pull" - I was wathing for altitude and alt of pulling was exactly 1500m, as we agry on the ground with main jump master.
damn! everything -awareness, practice touches- looks perfect until pull. what happened there?
funny as! he looks so relaxed he just completely forgets about altitude awareness. funny how the sensory overload has different effects on different people. so long as you dont make the same mistake on jump 9 you'll be fine!!
As far as I know student does not open its parachute on level 1. As you can see you show that you can open. And after student does the move teachers said ok by thumbs up. So where is the fail?
Cardinal Rule of Skydiving:
Altitude awareness!!... altitude awareness!!.... altitude awareness!!
Skydiving is not unlke driving in that you must always be aware not only of your altitude & situation... but also, of what everyone else is doing around you. If you stay in the sport long enough, you will eventually run into a knucklehead who isnt paying attention and/or will blatantly do something stupid or reckless that can affect you, too, as a fellow jumper.
Hey man, can you tell us what happened there? i mean why you didn't open it?
did he pass?
why wouldnt he open it he tried to grab for it
@stealttiFIN as we agree on the ground - alt of pulling should be 1500m.
so the second jump master (to the left of me - right sight on the video) - was too nervious :) so as me :)))
@WormHoleFusion relax, don't be so nervious. how - first of all to relax, try fully exhale. altitude - look at altimeter all the time, permanently. and try to spell altitutde to focus on it. don't try to look on altimeter from time to time - but look permanently, and spell altutide. you'll do it ;)
It seems because of my teachers. They were from England and Wales.
Why didnt you pull it tho? shock?
Depleted_Uranium235 forgot about "all the time control" :) - was looking forward.
If level fails you should go though it again. Just though failed level. As much times as you need :) and of course pay for every jump. first 3 level are most expensive - two instructors.
I passed AFF course with only one failed level, this one :)
@omegasolution Thanks for that mate... will be doing my AFF Level 1 soon :-) These comments really help....
lol the student was just chilling out without a clue what was going on :p
Nope :)
@mike96786 1500 - 1600 m
when chute opened i was at 1300m about.
yep, i didn't pass this jump :)
serious instructors :))) - it was only one missed jump during aff