Ive had a Naked pool now for over 12 months. Uses MgCl as an oxidizer. It is VERY easy to maintain. The filter uses a copper annode to kill biologics. Has been incredibly easy to maintain. Only chemical is acid, added monthly during swimming months. My pool has less chlorine than my tap water by a factor of about 10.
For those that are wondering what the recipe is (comment should probably be pinned) - Silver objects in the sand filter - vortexer applied at the pump inlet in the swimming pool - inlets positioned so as to create a large, slow vortex - 30 ml of hydrogen peroxide (35%) a week per cubic meter of water - holy water (water of Lourdes) BTW thanks for the video, but you could have made it way shorter, it would have more impact
I have never tried, so I cannot really give advice on this. But I just read on wikipedia: "Fishkeeping Hydrogen peroxide is used in aquaculture for controlling mortality caused by various microbes. In 2019, the U.S. FDA approved it for control of Saprolegniasis in all coldwater finfish and all fingerling and adult coolwater and warmwater finfish, for control of external columnaris disease in warm-water finfish, and for control of Gyrodactylus spp. in freshwater-reared salmonids.[92] Laboratory tests conducted by fish culturists have demonstrated that common household hydrogen peroxide may be used safely to provide oxygen for small fish. The hydrogen peroxide releases oxygen by decomposition when it is exposed to catalysts such as manganese dioxide." But you might wanna study the subject deeper to understand at which concentration. Certainly I would definitely recommend the vortexer for fish ponds, and it's been used to keep golf courts ponds clean of algae.
well, in this case, not really. Consider that H2O2 has a very quick half life (google hydrogen peroxide half life) and it recombines in water + oxygen. Furthermore, at the concentrations I use it, we are talking of 0.001% or 1 part H2O2 per 10'000 parts of water at the moment I pour it in, but within a day or two that concentration drops rapidly when it interacts with organic matter, and hydrogen peroxide is commonly used at 3% (the concentration you can find in every pharmacy) directly on the skin for injury treatment or for mouth wash. As far as I know, chlorine is simply a toxic chemical, not used in its free form for any health treatment. Consider that the first chemical weapon used during ww2 was chlorine gas. In addition to all of this, there is currently on the market a product for swimming pools called Activated Oxygen, which is a sort of hydrogen peroxide in solid form. But it's quite expensive, compared to industrial grade hydrogen peroxide. In addition to this, if you go the chlorine way, you will not just have to buy chlorine, but a lot of other stuff. So it's also cheaper to use hydrogen peroxide. But my final goal is of course to avoid using chemicals at all... just not yet there! My last test shows that after 16 days of adding no H2O2 to the swimming pool (at about 29°C), it slowly started to get a little cloudy (but no algae yet). That's when I added H2O2 again. So, it's an ongoing experiment! But still I'm convinced that the vortexer is fundamental in making H2O2 so effective. Cheers
@@MirkoKulig Salt-generated chlorine also recombines quickly (back into salt), and you can keep a level that is basically undetectable - no smell or eye irritation. I spend less than $120 US per year on salt, stabilizer, new salt cells (they last about 10 years), and electricity. I used to worry about pH when I first bought the house because it stays high (7.8 to 8.0), but it doesn't seem to cause any problems. After 20 years, I don't bother to check pool chemistry anymore except for stabilizer level. I just keep the salt generator at the same level and adjust the pump time from 5 hours in the dry season to 8 in the rainy season, and I know the chorine level will be about right. It's still chlorine but nothing like a pool with chemically-maintained chlorine.
good job great information ...thank you
Good vid Mirko, cheers
Ive had a Naked pool now for over 12 months.
Uses MgCl as an oxidizer. It is VERY easy to maintain. The filter uses a copper annode to kill biologics.
Has been incredibly easy to maintain.
Only chemical is acid, added monthly during swimming months.
My pool has less chlorine than my tap water by a factor of about 10.
For those that are wondering what the recipe is (comment should probably be pinned)
- Silver objects in the sand filter
- vortexer applied at the pump inlet in the swimming pool
- inlets positioned so as to create a large, slow vortex
- 30 ml of hydrogen peroxide (35%) a week per cubic meter of water
- holy water (water of Lourdes)
BTW thanks for the video, but you could have made it way shorter, it would have more impact
Is there a break down on how much H2O2 per 1000 liters of pool & how often? I only have a tiny pool of around 3000 litres.
Please read the description
One 1m3 = 1000 litres
H2O2 35%!!!!
Is this safe for fish? Can I use this technology in my pond? If so, how many milliliters of hydrogen peroxide are safe for fish?
I have never tried, so I cannot really give advice on this. But I just read on wikipedia: "Fishkeeping
Hydrogen peroxide is used in aquaculture for controlling mortality caused by various microbes. In 2019, the U.S. FDA approved it for control of Saprolegniasis in all coldwater finfish and all fingerling and adult coolwater and warmwater finfish, for control of external columnaris disease in warm-water finfish, and for control of Gyrodactylus spp. in freshwater-reared salmonids.[92] Laboratory tests conducted by fish culturists have demonstrated that common household hydrogen peroxide may be used safely to provide oxygen for small fish. The hydrogen peroxide releases oxygen by decomposition when it is exposed to catalysts such as manganese dioxide." But you might wanna study the subject deeper to understand at which concentration. Certainly I would definitely recommend the vortexer for fish ponds, and it's been used to keep golf courts ponds clean of algae.
Stops using Chlorine, starts using Hydrogen Peroxide. Thanks for the info though, but isnt it changing one harsh chemical with another.
well, in this case, not really. Consider that H2O2 has a very quick half life (google hydrogen peroxide half life) and it recombines in water + oxygen. Furthermore, at the concentrations I use it, we are talking of 0.001% or 1 part H2O2 per 10'000 parts of water at the moment I pour it in, but within a day or two that concentration drops rapidly when it interacts with organic matter, and hydrogen peroxide is commonly used at 3% (the concentration you can find in every pharmacy) directly on the skin for injury treatment or for mouth wash. As far as I know, chlorine is simply a toxic chemical, not used in its free form for any health treatment. Consider that the first chemical weapon used during ww2 was chlorine gas. In addition to all of this, there is currently on the market a product for swimming pools called Activated Oxygen, which is a sort of hydrogen peroxide in solid form. But it's quite expensive, compared to industrial grade hydrogen peroxide. In addition to this, if you go the chlorine way, you will not just have to buy chlorine, but a lot of other stuff. So it's also cheaper to use hydrogen peroxide. But my final goal is of course to avoid using chemicals at all... just not yet there! My last test shows that after 16 days of adding no H2O2 to the swimming pool (at about 29°C), it slowly started to get a little cloudy (but no algae yet). That's when I added H2O2 again. So, it's an ongoing experiment! But still I'm convinced that the vortexer is fundamental in making H2O2 so effective. Cheers
@@MirkoKulig Salt-generated chlorine also recombines quickly (back into salt), and you can keep a level that is basically undetectable - no smell or eye irritation. I spend less than $120 US per year on salt, stabilizer, new salt cells (they last about 10 years), and electricity. I used to worry about pH when I first bought the house because it stays high (7.8 to 8.0), but it doesn't seem to cause any problems. After 20 years, I don't bother to check pool chemistry anymore except for stabilizer level. I just keep the salt generator at the same level and adjust the pump time from 5 hours in the dry season to 8 in the rainy season, and I know the chorine level will be about right. It's still chlorine but nothing like a pool with chemically-maintained chlorine.
great, certainly a good solution. Thanks for the comment
You used 27 tonnes of chemicals.