Before Limp Bizkit: How Nu Metal Became Pop - Revisited

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  • For a brief moment in the late 90s and early 2000s, Nu Metal ruled the airwaves. With releases such as KoRn's Follow the Leader, Limp Bizkit's Significant Other and Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory, the genre had commercial clout, but critically fared less well. However if you were a teenager at the time, nothing else felt like its white-knuckled throat-shredding catharsis. Not only that but the genre fused together many different sonic elements that previously seemed incompatible. But how did we get here? What were the vital steps along the way? And was it really all for the nookie? This is How Nu Metal Became Pop.
    #LimpBizkit #NuMetal #MusicDocumentary
    Fact-checking by Chad Van Wagner.
    Soundtrack
    Luar - Citrine ( / luarbeats )
    Jesse Gallagher - The Golden Present
    Luar - Anchor ( / luarbeats )
    00:00 Introduction
    01:07 Run DMC
    04:05 Beastie Boys
    06:15 Faith No More
    09:31 Bring The Noise
    11:42 Helmet
    14:46 90s Hip Hop
    18:57 Rage Against The Machine
    21:40 Pantera
    24:01 Clawfinger
    25:29 Korn
    28:48 Deftones
    31:04 Sepultura
    34:15 1997
    40:30 1998
    45:40 Limp Bizkit
    Louder Than Hell: The Definitive Oral History of Metal, Jon Wiederhorn & Katherine Turman, 2013, Harper Collins
    “Faith No More - Artists of the Year” Frank Owen, Spin Magazine, Dec 1990
    “Ice-T Interview” Andy Gill, Q Magazine, Sep 1991
    “Helmet: Big Boom in Industrial Metal” Michael Azerrad, Rolling Stone, Aug 1992
    “100 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die” Kerrang! Staff, Kerrang! Magazine, Jan 1998
    “They love bands called Snot and Orgy and dress like S&M fans. Welcome to nu metal“ Dave Simpson, The Guardian, Dec 1999
    “666 Songs You Must Own” Kerrang! Staff, Kerrang! Magazine, Nov 2004
    “Interview - Page Hamilton (Helmet)” Cosmo Lee, Invisible Oranges, Dec 2010
    “Pantera Look Back at 20 Years of ‘Walk’” Kory Grow, Spin Magazine, May 2012
    “Pantera's 'Vulgar Display Of Power': The Epic Story Behind A Hostile Masterpiece” Jon Wiederhorn, Revolver, Jul 2012
    "15 Years On - Was Nu-Metal The Last Musical Tribe?” Al Horner, NME, Sep 2013
    “Was It Really All Just For the Nookie? A Rational Explanation of Nu-Metal“ Tim Karan, Diffuser, Nov 2014
    “Korn’s 1994 Debut LP: The Oral History of the Most Important Metal Record of the Last 20 Years” Christopher R. Weingarten, Rolling Stone, Dec 2014
    “Under the Influence: Korn's James "Munky" Shaffer” Dave Kerr, The Skinny, Jan 2015
    “Rage Against the Machine Bassist: ‘I Apologize for Limp Bizkit’” Jason Newman, Rolling Stone, Sep 2015
    “The Nu Metal Years, Part One: Are You Ready?” Gareth Watkins, Cvlt Nation, Dec 2015
    “The Inside Story Of When Run‑DMC Met Aerosmith And Changed Music Forever” Geoff Edgers, The Washington Post, May 2016
    “Serenity and suffering: confronting Korn's dark past” Mörat, Metal Hammer, Oct 2016
    “Deftones' Chino Moreno: ‘Adrenaline? Those were wild times’” Metal Hammer, Oct 2016
    “The story behind Sepultura's Roots” Dom Lawson, Metal Hammer, Oct 2016
    “Incubus on nu-metal: 'It always made me cringe'” Kate Hutchinson, The Guardian, Apr 2017
    “20 years of nu-metal: the rise, fall and revival of rock’s most maligned offshoot” Tom Connick, The Guardian, May 2017
    “August 18, 1998: Korn, Kid Rock, Orgy & The Biggest Day in Nu-Metal History” Kristen S. He, Billboard, May 2018
    “7 Things You Didn't Know About System Of A Down's Self-Titled Album” Jon Wiederhorn, Revolver, Jun 2018
    “In 1998, rap-rock and nü-metal really did seem like the future” David Anthony, AV Club, Aug 2018
    “Oral History of the ‘Judgment Night’ Soundtrack: 1993’s Rap-Rock Utopia” Christopher R. Weingarten, Rolling Stone, Sep 2018
    “Korn's Jonathan Davis On Nu-Metal” Jonathan Weiner, Kerrang!, Sep 2019
    “Clawfinger im Interview über Konzerte, Kohle und kritische Songtexte” Andreas, Burn Your Ears, Nov 2019
    “Dez Fafara: How Coal Chamber saved LA and why nu metal rules” Joe Daly, Metal Hammer, Feb 2020
    “Korn break down their debut album track by track” Paul Branigan, Metal Hammer, Oct 2020
    “The Story Behind The Song: Bring The Noise by Anthrax and Public Enemy” Joel McIver, Metal Hammer, Nov 2020
    “The story of nu-metal in 14 songs” Nick Ruskell, Kerrang!, Aug 2021
    “Revenge of The Freaks: How Nu Metal Took Over the World” Dave Everley, Metal Hammer, Sep 2022
    “8 Musical Groups That Influenced Nu-Metal” Lauryn Schaffner, Loudwire, Sep 2022
    ““It was like holding a f**king live wire”: how Rage Against The Machine’s explosive debut album changed everything” Dave Everley, Metal Hammer, Nov 2022
    “Run DMC thought Walk This Way would ruin them: instead, it saved Aerosmith” Greg Prato, Classic Rock, Jan 2023
    “How Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Korn and the rest took nu metal from hated subgenre to the biggest thing on Planet Earth” Dannii Leivers, Metal Hammer, Aug 2023
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 561

  • @TrashTheory
    @TrashTheory  13 днів тому +60

    Every now and then I get people asking for a playlist of every song mentioned in my videos: Well here's a Spotify link for this one:
    open.spotify.com/playlist/6zAwXVjm19CTGMMqItaHqY?si=7de7cdb96f7045b8
    and the UA-cam Music one:
    music.ua-cam.com/play/PLooaZ33lSalfYA5iieOyW4czkRSviBYHS.html&si=DMISvWu3vo7oCBR0

    • @thepeacefulenemy4026
      @thepeacefulenemy4026 12 днів тому

      Oh that’s so awesome. Thank you!

    • @LNVACVAC
      @LNVACVAC 12 днів тому

      Thank you!

    • @klyanadkmorr
      @klyanadkmorr 12 днів тому +2

      What abt Skunk Anansie? They're Selling Jesus Again? That album was good.

    • @edgarwalk5637
      @edgarwalk5637 11 днів тому

      Cheers!

    • @edgarwalk5637
      @edgarwalk5637 11 днів тому

      @@klyanadkmorr I was thinking that. They also have electronic elements, so that could be a new topic altogether, which would be 👌

  • @user-dr8ko8ui5y
    @user-dr8ko8ui5y 13 днів тому +402

    “Babe, cancel yoga. TT’s talkin’ bout the BIZKIT!!”

    • @LisaBabe85
      @LisaBabe85 13 днів тому +11

      Literally listening to this on my way to a full moon yoga class 😂😂

    • @jr-fu6gj
      @jr-fu6gj 12 днів тому +6

      i hate my generation. #Rubyfreeman

    • @MrWayout74
      @MrWayout74 10 днів тому

      @@jr-fu6gj hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Same rules apply

    • @jasongarcia2140
      @jasongarcia2140 8 днів тому

      ​@@jr-fu6gjwhy

    • @whiteydiamond
      @whiteydiamond 8 днів тому +1

      Cringe

  • @rotinink
    @rotinink 13 днів тому +138

    don't forget about the time that "Killing in the name" became UK Christmas no.1 in 2009 just to protest against X Factor

    • @dinzy14
      @dinzy14 11 днів тому +5

      Fuck me, was that REALLY 15 years ago?! I’m gettin’ old 🥴

    • @juicemofo
      @juicemofo 10 днів тому

      Their BBC performance is one of the funniest things I've seen in my life.
      ua-cam.com/users/shortseo34LFFWNPQ?si=IF7tG8_loGcFnczv

    • @sonikku956
      @sonikku956 5 днів тому +3

      That might have been left out because RATM is a rap metal band, and not a nu metal one (despite how influential they were to nu metal)

    • @mrECisME
      @mrECisME 2 дні тому

      Ironically they only did this Because they were told to

  • @OmahaGTP
    @OmahaGTP 12 днів тому +90

    This era was as amazing as it was terrible. You had to be there and I am glad I was.

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 10 днів тому +6

      I'm too old for emo and too young for punk, of course I was there!

    • @micktorrans8123
      @micktorrans8123 9 днів тому +1

      This is the perfect description

    • @demo3456
      @demo3456 8 днів тому +3

      it was our generations music. I was 14 in 94 and Nu metal was my soundtrack. Like a lot of us.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 7 днів тому +1

      @@demo3456 That extends to the early 2000s, when I was in high school and SOAD was around.

    • @roelfkromhout
      @roelfkromhout 6 днів тому +1

      Well put. I’m kind of protective of it as that stuff was my youth, but the reality is that the vast majority of nu-metal is real awful. With a few notable exceptions. Deftones for instance, I think they had already managed to move past the nu label by their second album really.

  • @LordMarlle
    @LordMarlle 12 днів тому +129

    I've always thought that Limp Bizkit's skills as musicians were underrated. Sam Rivers funky basslines, Wes Borland weird riffss ,and John Otto's drumming. A much better band than the haters would have you believe

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 12 днів тому +17

      Limp are a good rap rock band, definitely can't touch KoRn but Korn were more of a nu metal band and Limp were more of a straight-forward rap-rock band. KoRn and Limp are 2 very different bands when you really think about it. I have to admit though Limps rhythm section is genius! Sam and John are quite a duo...I think most peoples issues with L.B are obvious, Fred Durst has a very limited vocal range and overall just isn't the greatest singer...

    • @simplenough
      @simplenough 12 днів тому +22

      Their image and fanbase ruined their credibility

    • @wigs666
      @wigs666 12 днів тому +14

      Fred Durst was such a bozo, any of LB's interesting bits were overshadowed by his personality

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 12 днів тому +3

      @@wigs666 He was a douche, for sure.

    • @Daneki
      @Daneki 12 днів тому

      Take em to the matthews bridge!

  • @sstanfo1
    @sstanfo1 13 днів тому +64

    You are the only who could get me excited about a Limp Bizkit video 😂😂😂

    • @austintrousdale2397
      @austintrousdale2397 12 днів тому

      Finn McKenty: am I a joke to you?😖

    • @MrMmnngghh
      @MrMmnngghh 12 днів тому

      @@austintrousdale2397 That's not an underrated in joke...that's a HIGH QUALITY in joke 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @Yixdy
      @Yixdy 12 днів тому +1

      ​@@austintrousdale2397 maaann, I stopped watching him a long ass time ago.
      It's weird to say he sold out, because like I *really* would prefer it if every UA-camr at least ran a patreon and did some sort of sponsorships (preferably non-shit companies, of course) but finn just oozes this like "I got my CCCP tattoo covered up the same day I got my real estate license" vibes

    • @talesxavier5752
      @talesxavier5752 12 днів тому +1

      ​@@Yixdyhe was always like that, it's worth remembering that he was Sargent D of Metalsucks, and the articles he wrote were horrible.

    • @Yixdy
      @Yixdy 11 днів тому

      @@talesxavier5752 oh, interesting I had no idea, I was never one for reading or caring about reviews of music and stuff because when I started getting heavy into music (heavy into heavy music?) the Internet was nearly in it's current state so I could find stuff on my own. Anyways, I think I'm going to go through and read finn's old metal sucks stuff and have a laugh lol

  • @beezlebub3955
    @beezlebub3955 13 днів тому +137

    Angel Dust was and will always be absolute fire

    • @Armakk
      @Armakk 12 днів тому +3

      Best alt-metal album of the 1990s, hands down.

    • @MadGeorgeProductions
      @MadGeorgeProductions 12 днів тому +2

      Agreed, although we sadly lost the guitarist as he thought it was disco bullshit or something like that.

    • @colletti914
      @colletti914 11 днів тому +3

      You heard it here, folks. Try PCP!

    • @beezlebub3955
      @beezlebub3955 11 днів тому +2

      @@colletti914 🤣🤣

    • @jupiterthecity
      @jupiterthecity 11 днів тому +1

      @@MadGeorgeProductions No big loss. He'd totally be the type of guy who is still deeply concerned in 2024 about "posers" infiltrating metal

  • @XavierGoncalves89
    @XavierGoncalves89 12 днів тому +20

    Chester's screams eventually got me into all the screaming stuff, screamo, post-metal, post-hardcore etc, so I thank nu-metal for exposing me to different stuff

    • @cheeselad2401
      @cheeselad2401 5 днів тому

      Linkin Park was a gateway drug for me too

  • @alphacrisis
    @alphacrisis 10 днів тому +11

    That woodstock line up was insane. No surprise it all went up in flames.

  • @ludouniversalis
    @ludouniversalis 9 днів тому +13

    The transition from Clawfinger's to Korn's slur-titles was brilliant and made me laugh out loud. Great documentary as always!

  • @zombielynx21
    @zombielynx21 13 днів тому +88

    Break Stuff is a perfect single. It's all dynamic shifts and mood.

    • @simplenough
      @simplenough 12 днів тому +11

      Any fan of rock music should see them perform it once in their life

    • @zenleeparadise
      @zenleeparadise 12 днів тому +10

      The lyrics are obnoxious and obvious and uncreative and hearing that song always makes me chuckle. I listen to it for a good fifteen seconds before inevitably getting sick of it immediately and changing the station, though admittedly it's usually with a smile on my face and a playful head shake. It's a bad song. Its good qualities are not enough to overcome its bad qualities.

    • @TheInsaniacGuy
      @TheInsaniacGuy 12 днів тому

      ​@@zenleeparadise You just clearly have never packed a chainsaw & skinned an ass raw.

    • @ReXtion88
      @ReXtion88 12 днів тому +4

      Wes Borland is a fucking genius

    • @colletti914
      @colletti914 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@zenleeparadiseThank you. I'm actually admittedly a big Limp Bizkit fan, and that song is just so boring to me. I have no idea how it got so big.

  • @JoeMamaBesser
    @JoeMamaBesser 13 днів тому +35

    THANK YOU for mentioning Prong. Far too often neglected.

  • @ArchangelThunderbird
    @ArchangelThunderbird 13 днів тому +49

    wow, i did not expect to see the guano apes in here. lords of the boards and open your eyes were hilariously huge in the german skater and snowboard scenes.

    • @Eric_Hunt194
      @Eric_Hunt194 12 днів тому +3

      Remember going on a school exchange to Germany, and all the German kids were really into Guano Apes. It was round then that I was in my "mosher" phase so i picked up Proud Like A God from Ändra in Münster.

    • @TheBlackD
      @TheBlackD 12 днів тому +1

      Their music was quite common in extreme sports videos. Those videos had such a cultural impact back in the days.

    • @Scriptadiaboly
      @Scriptadiaboly 10 днів тому +2

      Ukraine loved GA - especially 2000 and 2003 albums and Path with Apocalyptica

    • @nyengster
      @nyengster 3 дні тому

      We loved them here in Denmark too

  • @blouburkette
    @blouburkette 12 днів тому +25

    The McDonalds of Metal just about sums it up. Still enjoy it.
    TT: You should cover Ween. I think it would be a fun long video for you.

    • @Borninxixax
      @Borninxixax 11 днів тому +1

      Before (and After) Ocean Man?

    • @yondie491
      @yondie491 3 дні тому

      Considering how in depth these videos are, that would have to be at least five hours long.

  • @xReflamed
    @xReflamed 12 днів тому +32

    I love how many female artists you included in the end reel with contemporary artists!

    • @franohmsford7548
      @franohmsford7548 12 днів тому +9

      Should probably have given at least a mention to the likes of Human Waste Project and Kittie who were there in the 90s.
      Yes I know Kittie have done a Deftones and disavowed Nu-Metal but come on :)

    • @Nick2Fish
      @Nick2Fish 12 днів тому +4

      ​@franohmsford7548 several of the bands featured in the video have at one point tried to distance themselves from the nu-metal label, some just gave up, accepted it, & rolled with whatever it brang

    • @goslin91
      @goslin91 11 днів тому +1

      Without being up to that point yet, I'm going to say Poppy, and then probably Chvrches (because they're always mentioned in every video)

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 10 днів тому +3

      @@Nick2Fish I think at this point it's how you separate the good nu-metal bands from the derivative trash. If you have ever said "we aren't nu-metal" then you're probably worth a listen!

  • @lanagievski1540
    @lanagievski1540 12 днів тому +15

    Casual Bananarama name drop was insane

  • @rolanalberto3064
    @rolanalberto3064 12 днів тому +7

    I likened FNM’s “Angel Dust” to Weezer’s “Pinkerton”: critics just never understood those albums from the time they were released. Now, both albums are considered cult classics on numerous “Top tier” lists and pioneered the development of their respective genres: Angel Dust was to Nu-Metal as Pinkerton was to 2000’s Emo and Powerpop. Commercial flops that were became timeless classics 👌

  • @wallac11
    @wallac11 12 днів тому +14

    Thanks for recognizing Prong's influence. A very underrated and influential band.

    • @NateTheGnat
      @NateTheGnat 8 днів тому +2

      They were years ahead of their time. And once the rest of the world caught up with them, they had already disbanded.

    • @izaakbakker9531
      @izaakbakker9531 3 дні тому

      @@NateTheGnat saw them and helmet a couple of times in the last few years. Helmet definitely want to show how good they can do cool jazz . Prong are still angry. Actually clawfinger Were really fun live as well . One of my favourite current bands is ho99o9 industrial trap death metal hardcore punk . with outfits. lovely

  • @allenkramer4601
    @allenkramer4601 12 днів тому +11

    Would love a video on the Dillinger escape plan and mathcore in general

  • @ryanl6037
    @ryanl6037 9 днів тому +3

    even though i’m a more recent fan, i’m glad the genre is alive and well with new talent and most of the legacy bands are still active

  • @eduardor8437
    @eduardor8437 12 днів тому +9

    Where is Finn Mckenty?

  • @martharunstheworld
    @martharunstheworld 12 днів тому +6

    I'm not a Nu Metal fan, but I do love some of the bands that inspired them. Faith No More, Prong, Helmet, all great music! And of course, even if I haven't heard of the band or even like the music, I'm going to watch your videos because they're really good!!

  • @millerhxc
    @millerhxc 10 днів тому +3

    "Britain didn't really get Godsmack"
    I grew up in London and I went out straight away to get that debut album. I loved them at the time. I feel like I knew people who liked them too - maybe they weren't huge but known enough.

  • @franohmsford7548
    @franohmsford7548 12 днів тому +7

    Great video but I feel that Linkin Park's "In The End" and Limp Bizkit's "Take a Look Around" certainly both deserved a mention along with "One Step Closer" and "Rollin'".
    -
    Also nice to see the new female acts promoted at the end but why not mention the likes of Kittie and Human Waste Project who were there in the 90s?

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 7 днів тому

      "In The End" doesn't have enough screaming.

  • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
    @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 12 днів тому +7

    I would've mentioned Godflesh, if only for their very obvious influence on Korn, but fantastic video as usual

    • @VuotoPneumaNN
      @VuotoPneumaNN 10 днів тому +1

      Yeah, they never get mentioned as an influence to nu metal, and it’s absolutely preposterous. Korn based their guitar and bass tone on Broadrick&Greene’s.

  • @zplapplap
    @zplapplap 12 днів тому +7

    You’ve created a definitive reference document. Congrats on a job well done. 👍🏽

  • @NunSuperior
    @NunSuperior 12 днів тому +4

    This vid sums up my 20's.
    Other bands (there are so many) : Systematic, Skrape, Rammstein, Mudvayne, Kittie, Infectious Grooves, Grinspoon, Blindside, plus all the tangential Industrial bands and whatever Rob Zombie's stuff is.

  • @BitzboxTV
    @BitzboxTV 13 днів тому +14

    This was the music I grew up with during my teens. Can't say I listen to any of these bands that much these days but this video has certainly made me want to revisit them all.

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 12 днів тому +2

      Same here, but I never stopped listening to it and I even saw Coal Chamber in concert for the 3rd time last summer with Mudvayne.

    • @BitzboxTV
      @BitzboxTV 12 днів тому +1

      @@leadme2thebliss21 I bet that was an epic gig!

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 10 днів тому

      This is the music I got into in my 20s but seeing as all the bands I was into in my teens are cited here as proto-nu-metal (Pantera, Machine Head, Sepultura etc.) it was inevitable I would get into nu-metal, the people writing it were listening to all the same stuff I was.

    • @tsartomato
      @tsartomato 6 днів тому

      they just never made anything good since then. they grew up and turned into old people
      and music is for the young

  • @freke80
    @freke80 11 днів тому +2

    This was a really well-researched and insightful video that brought back a lot of great memories from that era of music. I loved how you traced the origins and evolution of nu metal, from the early rap-rock crossovers through the rise of bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park in the late 90s/early 2000s.
    Your passion and knowledge of the subject really shines through. The way you contextualized the music with what was going on culturally at the time was spot-on. And I appreciated your balanced take - celebrating what made nu metal exciting and impactful for a generation, while also acknowledging some of its more problematic elements.
    Overall, this was a super engaging and nostalgic trip down memory lane. Your videos are always such a treat - informative, entertaining and crafted with obvious care and attention to detail. Please keep up the amazing work! Your thoughtful deep dives into music history are a real gift. Thanks for putting so much effort into this stellar content.❤

  • @Psykostatik
    @Psykostatik 12 днів тому +5

    Love all your videos. Keep up the great work.
    Sidenote you forgot to mention how Industrial/ Industrial Metal had a huge impact on Numetal as a whole.

  • @Severinate
    @Severinate 13 днів тому +32

    The Prodigy - Fat of the Land.

    • @MrMmnngghh
      @MrMmnngghh 12 днів тому +1

      Wat Tyler - Fat Of The Band

    • @VuotoPneumaNN
      @VuotoPneumaNN 10 днів тому +1

      Nah, not really.

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 10 днів тому +4

      I'm with you. Firestarter and Breathe (and sometimes Poison but that was off Jilted Generation) were the only dance music tracks that were also playing in the metal clubs when I was a teenager. They were my first exposure to the fact you could have keyboards and samples and still have a metal sound and a Pridigy show is the only place where you will see the old school ravers and the metalheads hanging out together.

    • @Severinate
      @Severinate 10 днів тому +4

      @@misterthegeoff9767 Exactelly. Prodigy crossed genres right at the time Nu-Metal became the next big thing. Tom Morello also guested on 'No Man Army' and Jim Davies (Pitchshifter) was a regular member.

  • @mrrodriguezHLP
    @mrrodriguezHLP 12 днів тому +3

    Middle school and peak nu metal coincided with me, I was trouble. I realized by freshman year of high school the genre might be shallow. I was learning the guitar, and I picked up the tablature book for Significant Other, and realized Break Stuff is exactly TWO chords. I was able to get a store exchange for the Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dreams tab book. I still suck at guitar, but I'm glad my tastes have grown and can admit my love of nu metal without shame or irony.

  • @baloymoisesrodriguezcolmen7812
    @baloymoisesrodriguezcolmen7812 11 днів тому +2

    The best essay I've ever watched about nu metal, you mentioned everything, from classic music to the new "standard"
    I never expected to watch a video where bands like at the drive in, fleshwater and such other artists were mentioned to explain the whole story of a genre like nu metal, it is like, every single essay out there is just shallow af

  • @ClockwiseCat
    @ClockwiseCat 11 днів тому +4

    Let's not forget that Ross Robinson produced The Cure's self-titled album in 2004. It has some good songs, but the production is mostly horrific. However, the best song on the album (Lost) has some clear nu-metal influences.

  • @TheJordan75
    @TheJordan75 12 днів тому +7

    I feel like the only thing that was not mentioned is the influence of 90's industrial rock and metal on Nu-metal. Also, I feel like Dropout Kings, Slaughter to Prevail and Tallah definitely deserved a mention at the end.

    • @talesxavier5752
      @talesxavier5752 12 днів тому

      Also bands like DangerKids, Blind Channel, Blackgold, From Ashes To New, Cane Hill, HourHouse, .bHP, Omerta, Sleep Theory, Hanabie, Ocean Groove, Blood Youth, Static Dress, Vein-fm and Paledusk definitely deserved a mention on this new wave of nu metal bands (and is worth mentioning that metalcore is now very influenced by the genre).

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 2 дні тому

      Rammstein fit into all of this somehow, but also don't fit in anywhere.

  • @patrickaker4380
    @patrickaker4380 9 днів тому +1

    This era hit when I got my drivers license. That meant getting my first car, and in turn my first car stereo system. Was non stop nu metal playing to and from school and I don’t regret a second of it.

  • @Cleindori
    @Cleindori 13 днів тому +4

    The music of my childhood. I regret nothing, still in the playlist. Thank you for another informative doc!

  • @daviddalrymple2284
    @daviddalrymple2284 11 днів тому +3

    As always, I think the "proto" stage of a movement is always the most interesting. In 1996 and 1997, the hard rock scene was full of all kinds of fresh-sounding alt metal bands that defied easy classification. Amongst my peers, at least, Tool was generally considered the top band, although Korn had lots of fans as well. But as you alluded to in the video, Korn had a sound that was fairly simple to replicate (at least superficially). Tool did not.

  • @tdp2612
    @tdp2612 12 днів тому +2

    25:30 that transition was beautiful, well done. As someone who knows nothing about nu metal I had no idea what was coming

  • @WILD__THINGS
    @WILD__THINGS 12 днів тому +2

    18:15 And to take that one further, on the Limp Bizkit song "Stuck" Fred Durst raps "All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi. Far from Suicidal, still I get them tendencies"

  • @WrexsolToob
    @WrexsolToob 12 днів тому +6

    I think the world is finally ready for a heavy version of 'The Living Years'

  • @quentinbringthenumetalchil5125
    @quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 13 днів тому +18

    Trash Theory talking about nu metal. Today’s going to be a great day!

  • @davidmatheny1993
    @davidmatheny1993 12 днів тому +3

    My home state of Georgia seems to have a band that finds relevance in almost every subgenre of rock. Sevendust happened to be our contribution to "nu-Metal".

  • @phillcorpe
    @phillcorpe 12 днів тому +5

    well done including Urban dance squad and clawfinger

  • @Aubee89
    @Aubee89 13 днів тому +11

    Love this channel! Thanks for awesome content over the years

  • @craigcharlesworth1538
    @craigcharlesworth1538 12 днів тому +5

    I think it was around the time I heard Papa Roach that I knew nu-metal was done. Deftones were and are a legitimately great band and Korn were obviously pioneers, while Bizkit were... well, Bizkit were Bizkit. But Papa Roach were the point where I realised this was going the same way as grunge and Britpop; every label trying to sign up anything that moved until the market was flooded with shite. Shortly after that came Alien Ant Farm and that was really when I felt like the wheels were coming off.
    Was it worth it? We got Deftones out of it, and Slipknot, Korn and SOAD had a handful of good tunes. As a metal fan, it was fun to see something adjascent to the music I liked actually getting played on the radio and appearing on Top of the Pops. So yeah, it was alright. But it really doesn't need a fucking revival.

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 10 днів тому

      Papa roach was my lesson not to buy an album off of the strength of one song. I still enjoy Last Resort but if ever a band deserved to be a one hit wonder it was them.

  • @greyarea6688
    @greyarea6688 13 днів тому +26

    Limp Bizkit is something I have a bit of a love/hate relationship towards so I'm very much going to enjoy your latest video! 😂

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 12 днів тому +2

      We all have a love/hate relationship with that band lol join the club!

  • @ObsidianSouls
    @ObsidianSouls 12 днів тому +1

    Great job for going into more depth. And being candid about not endorsing some of the less savory aspects of the genre's melodies.

  • @pfbmdgn
    @pfbmdgn 12 днів тому +3

    "Break Stuff" was the 4th single from Significant Other

  • @DFCwastaken
    @DFCwastaken 12 днів тому +18

    I really appreciate that this video didn't just end with the tired "lmao Nu Metal was just an embarrassing blip in music, we're so much better off without it" kind of takes we see often.

    • @tsartomato
      @tsartomato 6 днів тому

      only old people would do that or tiny kids repeating after old people who don't even know what they are talking about
      odd-even generation leaps is how it always was
      you can see young kids repeating the same crap pukin made up about the 90s and believing it.
      nu metal is one of the best things in music, better than what was before or after. and that's not because i "grew up" on it or is nostalgic like usaers. i grew up on zolotoe koltso bozhya korovka lube duna exbb. maybe add auktsion ddt gorillaz rammstein to that if we are talking about teen years

    • @neuroisis85
      @neuroisis85 6 днів тому

      It was largely complete garbage though. I lived through it and there were only a few good bands and even those sold out very quickly usually after the first album.

    • @tsartomato
      @tsartomato 6 днів тому

      @@neuroisis85 that's because you are elderly and hate kids these days

  • @georgechivu4226
    @georgechivu4226 12 днів тому

    Your research is flawless. Amazing series.

  • @UGLY-MONEY17
    @UGLY-MONEY17 12 днів тому +6

    Orgys blue Monday cover is fantastic in my opinion

  • @kapage74
    @kapage74 13 днів тому +7

    Never expected to hear Spiritbox in a TT video, was a nice surprise at the end
    As always yiu smashed this, but thank you for showing the human side of creation at the start and putting in the effort to update it, your work on it was really clear to see

  • @memunns
    @memunns 10 днів тому +2

    Great video. Worth noting: Limp Bizkit played on Day 1 of Woodstock '99, Saturday. The major damage happened on Sunday, the next day. Fred Durst is a douche sure, but Limp Bizkit can't be blamed for Woodstock 99. They had no part in the terrible conditions, terrible security, planning, etc. They just went and played like they were supposed to.

  • @sebastianmaydana7380
    @sebastianmaydana7380 10 днів тому +1

    I'm watching this because I love your videos. I could never click on other guys' Limp Bizkit UA-cam essays

  • @Iram_Ali
    @Iram_Ali 12 днів тому +4

    I didn't like most of the music in this video, but I really enjoy the way you make these videos, so I watched the whole thing. Excellent work as always 👍

  • @ricequin
    @ricequin 7 днів тому +1

    I was sure I remembered hearing Killing in the Name on the Chart rundown on Radio 1 and being cut short after the first “F bomb”. Thanks for confirming I didn’t imagine it.

  • @ihateyoubees
    @ihateyoubees 13 днів тому +11

    As someone who grew up in the 90s and listened to Nu Metal (and still do) Sick New World was amazing last year, and it was amazing to see thousands of other people my age listening to the music that I got made fun of a lot for liking.
    I also want to say thanks for including Guano Apes! They are one of my favorite bands of all time.

  • @toppersundquist
    @toppersundquist 13 днів тому +6

    That takes me back... I gotta listen to Prong again.

  • @Eliel20117
    @Eliel20117 12 днів тому +8

    36:50 i don't want to be that guy but Faith No More were the first who came up with covers topping on charts, Limp Bizkit was just following the formula

    • @DetectiveDeckard
      @DetectiveDeckard 12 днів тому +1

      It’s not the first to make a chart topping cover, Faith by LB was the first 80s pop song turned metal that gained popularity.

    • @jaredmendez12
      @jaredmendez12 12 днів тому +1

      Faith No More didn't change Easy that much, they just skipped the second verse and the rest of the song remains faithful to the original.

    • @Eliel20117
      @Eliel20117 12 днів тому

      @@jaredmendez12 they also did a cover of War Pigs

  • @TheStubLord
    @TheStubLord 7 днів тому +1

    this is bringing me back bro, well done

  • @misterbailey9406
    @misterbailey9406 12 днів тому +1

    I love your narration so much in your videos! You even said “Sade” correctly as (shar-day) just like on the original printings of “Diamond Life”. I’m so glad I subscribed 😊

  • @Olly__Zines-By-Blade
    @Olly__Zines-By-Blade 12 днів тому +9

    Fuck yeah WARGASM mentioned, they're my favourite band and I've met literally 2 people ever who also listen to them

    • @sulecen
      @sulecen 12 днів тому +2

      Their recent album is so damn good, their Prodigy influences is what drew me in.

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 12 днів тому +1

      They are pretty popular these days! They have been endorsed by members from KoRn and a bunch of other bands...I've never heard their music but I always hear famous musicians reference them. I think they are from the UK and are probably more popular there

    • @Olly__Zines-By-Blade
      @Olly__Zines-By-Blade 12 днів тому

      @leadme2thebliss21 yeah I'm from the UK a they've been touring quite a lot around here, getting bigger - makes me happy to see them getting the credit they deserve, I totally recommend them to any heavy music fans

  • @c.brogansavage3385
    @c.brogansavage3385 8 днів тому

    Wow. So incredibly well-researched and put together. I was building a playlist whilst watching. I did start to get a bit depressed towards the end but then you shared the new artists and I instantly felt better! So happy to see the new wave of artists building on this genre. Also Deftones 4eva 🖤🖤🖤

  • @sofascialistadankulamegado1781
    @sofascialistadankulamegado1781 9 днів тому

    Mate you are the ultimate source of music genre summary. I am stunned by how well versed you are in so many genres. Keep going! ❤

  • @PelleSpokes
    @PelleSpokes 12 днів тому

    Really commendable to remake this video, great stuff!

  • @GP1138
    @GP1138 11 днів тому +2

    I still maintain that Korn's first album is a fucking monster. It's juvenile at times, but it's brutal.

  • @zombielynx21
    @zombielynx21 13 днів тому +2

    This is exactly what I wanted. Thank you.

  • @Olly__Zines-By-Blade
    @Olly__Zines-By-Blade 12 днів тому +3

    This video was so fuckin cool, I listen to a fair bit of this stuff but it tends to fall on the more popular side of the genre, so i'm excited to listen to all of the music mentioned and undoubtedly find some new favourite tracks now

  • @TREACLsales
    @TREACLsales 7 днів тому

    One of your best in an informative and entertaining channel of goodies! I feel less guilty about my Nu Metal pleasures having watched this!

  • @morganmensa5129
    @morganmensa5129 6 днів тому +1

    Korn Life is Peachy was my jam. I still got the promo cassette. This is very well researched and spot on as I remember it.

  • @Brad772006
    @Brad772006 7 днів тому

    Love this video! So much information and I learned some things. Fantastic!

  • @GaryHiebner
    @GaryHiebner 12 днів тому

    Amazing video! Most comprehensive History of Nu Metal video have seen. Especially all the precursor bands leading up to Nu Metal. So spot on. And even the mentions of newer acts incorporating some of that Nu Metal style. Such as Spiritbox, Loathe, Nova Twins, and Poppy. Great video! Don't think it could be explained any better. Even after fanboy-ing over Nu Metal for 20 years, still learnt something from this video. Like could Clawfinger be the first Nu metal band?......Maybe....

  • @bobbydeenjr
    @bobbydeenjr 8 днів тому

    This was great! Thank you!🤘🤘

  • @morrigan43
    @morrigan43 12 днів тому +4

    a great video! as a nu metal fan born after its golden age it has been fascinating to see it become almost mainstream again. i was already mostly aware of most of the influences on the metal side of things, but this video made me realize that maybe i'd enjoy late 80s/90s hip hop too, which is a genre i never really dived into before! i've never heard of "judgement night" before either but i think it might be what i start with:)

    • @misterthegeoff9767
      @misterthegeoff9767 10 днів тому +1

      Definitely give Body Count a listen. a perfect crossover of old school hip hop and metal and sadly as politically relevant today as it was back in the 90s.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 7 днів тому

      If it's not on KROQ, it's not mainstream. Idk what KROQ is thinking is cool now, but they're wrong and new heavy music needs to be played more on radio.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 7 днів тому

      @@misterthegeoff9767 I feel that way about "Holiday in Cambodia."

  • @MrJTHOMMO
    @MrJTHOMMO 13 днів тому +23

    I thought the story with RATM and BBC Radio 1 was that they played live and were asked not to swear but then did and it was broadcast.

    • @TrashTheory
      @TrashTheory  13 днів тому +48

      That was BBC 5 Live when it got to Xmas Number One in 2009. It has somehow happened twice. The BBC never learns.

    • @ReXtion88
      @ReXtion88 12 днів тому +1

      @@TrashTheory To be fair, it's a no-win situation. They have to ask Rage not to do the explicit version, and there is no chance that Rage will ever accede to the request

    • @acetate909
      @acetate909 11 днів тому

      ​@@ReXtion88
      BS. They made sure every audience member at there show got the jab. Way to stick it to the man and stand agaisnt the global pharmaceutical criminal cartel.

    • @SyntaxErr19287
      @SyntaxErr19287 10 днів тому

      @@ReXtion88only experimental vaccine requests

  • @nadine3193
    @nadine3193 12 днів тому

    Nu metal will always hold a special place in my heart, looking forward to going through the play list to discover some new songs. Thank you!!

  • @BigBubbaloola
    @BigBubbaloola 10 днів тому +2

    Please do a deeper dive on Faith No More. They are sorely underserved here on YT about their careers and spin offs.

  • @faithlessfate
    @faithlessfate 12 днів тому +1

    I remember this from high school… good times. Great video.

  • @gardenboydon
    @gardenboydon 12 днів тому +2

    Fantastic video! Nu metal had an undeniable influence for sure. However I don't know if I would ever want to experience that scene again lol

  • @Nozes..
    @Nozes.. 12 днів тому

    Superb work.
    I was never a fan of the genre,but throughly enjoyed learning about this piece of music history.

  • @rudolphcordon3017
    @rudolphcordon3017 9 днів тому +2

    Thanks to the resurgence of nu-metal, there have been a load of videos lately documenting it's origin and rise. Then comes the serious debate of it's significance within metal. IF NU-METAL DID NOT HAPPEN, THE METAL BOUNDARIES WILL NOT HAVE BEEN PUSHED AND METAL WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BORING.

  • @Kuffdam
    @Kuffdam 11 днів тому +1

    This is the story of my youth… at 13 I was into Public Enemy and discovered Anthrax and it changed everything…. Loved and still own the Judgement Night soundtrack vinyl… saw Pantera on the Vulgar Tour, Biohazard for Urban Discipline tour and Sepultura for the Chaos AD tour… not to mention the Helmet era with Betty and that groove they created, it was a magical time for metal and then the Korn, Bizkit era of the late 90’s and 00’s was like the next level of metal. I miss those days but was at Sick New World to relive it all…. The story of my youth for sure - thanks for the video, loved it

  • @joshuaboswell80
    @joshuaboswell80 День тому

    Fantastic work. Love your videos!

  • @samohara-childs8463
    @samohara-childs8463 12 днів тому +1

    Fascinating to see how it all links together

  • @impossiblefunky
    @impossiblefunky 10 днів тому

    This was fantastic. What a great selection of songs!

  • @kydewees
    @kydewees 12 днів тому +3

    311 were massive in America. Their 1995 blue album had many singles on the radio in addition to Down with videos on constant rotation on MTV. Tons of pop hits in the late 90s. Set the blueprint for Limp Bizkit especially with using a piccolo snare.

    • @cris_261
      @cris_261 12 днів тому +3

      I saw 311 with Incubus as the opening act. Both bands put on a great show.

    • @kydewees
      @kydewees 12 днів тому +2

      @@cris_261 Amazing, the band from Omaha, Nebraska often forgotten in the nu metal discussion but I remember 311 being all over radio/MTV back in the 90s. I don't think many realize Korn and Incubus were on the same indie label (Immortal) that had a deal with a major (Epic/Sony).

    • @cris_261
      @cris_261 12 днів тому

      @@kydewees Korn developed a big fan base in the 90s in Utah. I don't remember the year, but Korn was part of a show with God Lives Underwater and KMFDM that performed at Saltair.

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 7 днів тому

      311 is a band from my childhood in the 90s, the only song I don't like from them that I've heard is their cover of "Lovesong."

  • @pda1799
    @pda1799 12 днів тому

    Awesome video.
    Helmet’s Unsung will always be my #1.

  • @emmanuelbarbet1621
    @emmanuelbarbet1621 11 днів тому

    Again such a great analysis and music history. This one made me travel far in my childhood, thanks for that!

  • @fromulus
    @fromulus 8 днів тому +1

    That self-titled first Rage album literally changed me forever. I saw the video for Freedom on the Headbanger's Ball on Mtv, got the cd a day or two later from the store and at 14 that was the end of that version of me.

    • @fromulus
      @fromulus 8 днів тому

      Same for the first Korn, and Deftones Adrenaline. That was my absolute shit, I miss those days, especially with how the Deftones seem to resent that album.

  • @ferrarif1w886
    @ferrarif1w886 11 днів тому

    25:25-25:30 transition simply killed me, so unexpected from this channel and yet so good🔥

  • @wallac11
    @wallac11 12 днів тому

    You did a great job here analysing the artists in the 1980's that were the roots of this genre.

  • @woodfordmetcalfe9435
    @woodfordmetcalfe9435 12 днів тому +1

    Dope video, thanks

  • @HeavyMetalPowerBottom
    @HeavyMetalPowerBottom 11 днів тому

    Fascinating vid!!!🎉❤

  • @juliangheiler7646
    @juliangheiler7646 7 днів тому +3

    At around 32:30 the line about people accusing Sepultura of selling out with their single-string riffs on “Roots” really pisses me off because it’s pure ignorance. If you know anything about capoeira or Brazilian culture you’d know that the sound (especially in the sample riff in the video) mimicks the sound of the tradition instrument berimbau. It’s extremely clever and well done.

  • @_olli_9485
    @_olli_9485 13 днів тому +1

    I love these videos!

  • @Baxteen1
    @Baxteen1 12 днів тому

    I have enjoyed so many of these videos. But this was for me by far the best, but I think that is because every song on the Spotify Playlist is already in at least one Playlist in my rotation. This video was an explanation of my musical taste

  • @TheUFCnetwork
    @TheUFCnetwork 2 дні тому

    Excellent video, nice work.

  • @MegaMONI45
    @MegaMONI45 День тому

    Love your videos, thanks for all the work :) It'd be so cool if you made spotify playlists to come along with them!

  • @leadme2thebliss21
    @leadme2thebliss21 12 днів тому +2

    I saw Helmet open for KoRn in 2022, very awesome concert from both bands!