Who Did It Better? - Joy Division vs Nine Inch Nails - Dead Souls Comparison
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- In this video we're comparing Joy Division and Nine Inch Nails, performing Joy Division's 'Dead Souls'. It's been a while since we've done a Joy Division song, and we were curious what NIN would do with one of their songs. This should be fun. Enjoy!
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No comparison guys. Joy Division 24/7.
Joy Division for me. I liked the more rough around the edges sound and it was instrumentally more creative and interesting, especially rhythmically.
Glad that Cynthia obviously got into the Joy Division version - its an amazing track. The tone of the guitars is just so good - dark but rich, powerful - even a little groovy. This is how I like my coffee
Martin Hannett crazy and visionnary production obviously does all the differance. (happy to join your channel, btw ^^ Hi from France !)
NIN does a solid cover of this, but for me the urgency, and I think, much darker edge to the Joy Division take is just unforgettable. For me, this hasn't lost any of the gut punch feeling that it had in 1980. Great comparison and upload.
Joy Division will always win a "Who did it better" contest. In my opinion. 😃
You will always get hooked on joy division great music great live band
Far from being fond of Joy Division and Ian Curtis, I recognize that "Dead Souls" is one of their very best pieces and at least their interpretation was lively and convincing while the NIN cover is soft, without relief, the drum part linear and Trent Reznor's singing lifeless, while Ian Curtis' vocal delivery was felt and haunted. Well, anyway I don't care about NIN😉.
Two great bands but the original is definitely the one for me. NIN do a version of Adam Ants "Physical". RevCo (Revolting C0cks) do a great version of Rod Stewarts "Do You Think I'm Sexy".
I once saw Love and Rockets do a great cover of the Ants' Physical in 88. Daniel Ash's lovely loud guitar.
Wow, what a haunting song from Ian Curtis and love Peter Hook's lead Bass. I prefer the original but do like what Trent did on the vocals in his cover. Appeciate both your guys reactions. I always learn a lot about the construction of the songs. Also thrilled I got something more then 'Well that was interesting' from Cynthia!
By slowing it down and taking some of the harshness out of the guitars, Trent took some of the fire and anger out of the song, but gave it a feeling of melancholy acceptance.
Joy Division all day long, though NIN is a better cover band than Interpol.
Joy Division is all about (dark) emotions, and that’s why I love them. There’s only one Joy Division cover I know, where I doubt which one is better. Isolation, covered by the Irish punkband Therapy?.
Thank you so much again! Delilah & now this! My favourite Joy Division track. He can't really sing, but it doesn't matter, he expresses so much genuine pain & emotion, & it's emotional honesty that I value most in a singer. This song powerfully evokes vivid images for me; unearthly, desperate, longing.
The NIN version is good, it just doesn't have that same honesty for me - Cynthia is bang right about the OTT screaming.
Yes, Curtis was far from a great singer, but there are still a very good handful of moments in JD's catalog where his voice sends shivers down your spine. It could be added that he is also far from the only front man of an acclaimed rock/pop band who no one would ever confuse with Sinatra or any other great singer you care to name.
Joy Division for me too.
A seminal band such as Joy Division (for me, along with Wire and Pere Ubu, one of my all time favourite bands from that era) was always going to be covered many times by future bands and artists and have been; so from well known acts such as Moby, covering ‘New Dawn Fades’ to the less well known Diabologum’s take on ‘Transmission’ and all points in between there have been a plethora of, erm…cover versions. But. Nothing has topped, or will top the Joy Division originals…IMHO.
Pere Ubu might be of interest,.....Bauhaus singer, Pete Murphy did a cover of the Pere Ubu song, Final Solution. Might make a good comparison !
Ian Curtis wins his vocals are 💥🔥🤘👏👏👏👍 i can't imagine how anyone could beat him covering him IMPOSSIBLE
His DESPERATION and STRANGLE with life comes out through his delivery SAD BUT AWESOME
Wire are the guys, period.
Joy Division definitely for me
I'm always late to the party on these types of videos, but I'll give my opinion anyway. This is like trying to compare the LOTR books to Peter Jackson's LOTR movie trilogy. Peter Jackson's trilogy is a brilliant adaptation of a masterpiece, crafted with care and respect for the source material. I think the NIN cover is like PJ's trilogy. But I prefer the original over the cover. I connect with it on a deeper level. PS. Love the Rush shirt!
I really enjoyed this comparison, C and C. Both of these are good, for me I prefer the original Joy Division version the best, but the cover is a good one, one is bass lead, the other drum more.
I used to know a Rochdale guy who did session work with Joy Div and some of the other Factory early bands.
He didn’t like working with Ian C.
But introduced me to A Certain Ratio
A pretty tight band from back in the day and Section 25 and The Duritti Column.
For any covers of Joy Div will always be second best.
Still have most of their original albums from that era but usually play their cds to preserve the vinyl.
Great review.
To me, one version is a dreary pop song devoid of feeling and the other one is Joy Division, full of emotion and angst and anger and love.
NIN all day
Angst is not nice. I love that you do stuff that isn't nice. Thanks! Btw, Joy Division made some of the best songs ever.
Dead Souls was played as an opener at gigs to give Ian Curtis enough time to judge the mood of the audience.
Never thought Joy Division were that talented to be fair they have a few stand out tracks like Transmission & Atmosphere which are fantastic but the one thing you could never deny them was their huge influence on music and Curtis dark vocals which I'm sure Kurt Cobain took a lot of influence from.
I live near Peter Hook I have bumped into him and his wife on a number of occasions , One time he asked me if I was a fan of Joy Division I said no but I like a few of your tracks he said good for you I'm sick of people applauding us because half the stuff we did was crap.
You're always your own worst critic. That's just how it is .
Strange comment given that Hooky now spends a great deal of time playing it all - so the crap as well presumably, on tour
Hook isn't always to be believed. I'll leave it at that.
I think Joy Division was a great band, but no one would ever claim they were the most virtuosic band. However, they clearly grew as musicians in their short history. And the quality of New Order (a band I also rate highly) is testament to the talents of three quarters of Joy Division.
I do love me some JD, I do like the original and the NIN is a new step forward. If you want some haunting stuff I got some maybe you could compare "Alabama Song" by "The Doors (Original)" and Artery's cover of it too. I gotta say they both are different and unique.
This also would give you both an introduction to Artery, UK Sheffield Post Punk / New Wave band. They have been compared to Joy Division but they are more than Joy Division. You guys won't be disappointed.
Doors (Original) vs Artery (1983 Cover) - Alabama Song
(These 3 tracks are the essential of Artery)
Artery - Into the Garden (1981)
Artery - The Slide (Peel Session 1982)
Artery - Afterwards (Peel Session 1981)
Thank you guys for the reactions! Can't wait to see and hear your reactions on these!
Man I'd have loved to have seen Joy division i got the silver medal and saw New Order about 22 years ago
Saw them in Paris in 1985 :B
@@jfred5258 nice I'll bet that was bloody awesome 💯
@@heathcornbeef Far too much heavily crowded, mostly drunk and (of course) pumped full of drugs :B
@@jfred5258 bummer i prefer small venue's without drunken yobs myself but don't care too much it's about experiencing The Band that counts
You have heard the guitar in the band new order who formed after Ian Curtis killed himself
Inspired by the book of the same name written by Nikolai Gogol
Joy division has been put on other people albums in concert great music
Idea for Halloween and comparison: Gary Numan/Tubeway Army - 'Down in the Park'. And the Foo Fighters version. Several have covered this uber creepy (but excellent song) but I thought the Foo Fighters especially interesting.
The NIN version is done with a great deal of love and respect ....Trent Reznor is one of the biggest Joy Division fans on the planet, ,but it doesnt match the majesty and execution of the original for me.
Joy Division were a super Important band to me growing up, so I may be somewhat biased!
I cant remember what other JD songs have been done on the channel, but, Love Will Tear Us Apart is the obvious one, Atmosphere, and Disorder.
They became New Order after the death of frontman, Ian Curtis. So you could always go down that road, there's a lot to cover there. Plus the various side projects, Electronic, Revenge etc
Was it you that pointed me to Jäh Division? They do an LP of Dub versions of Joy Division songs that are worth a listen.
If you go looking though there are two bands with the same name. Jäh Division is an American band and they do the covers, the other is Jah Division who are a Russian band that do Reggae and Ska as well as what seems like more traditional Russian things. Both bands are well worth checking.
@@SPKdesign1 yeah, I think it was me.
I've ran across a couple of the Russian tracks before, but never really delved any deeper.
@@Sandy-dd4le Ta for telling me aboot them. I ended up getting the LP.
Unfortuenately the Russian ones don't have any vinyl but managed to find a bunch as .mp3.
@@SPKdesign1 I find they are a bit like the Easy All Stars, some of the songs work really well, some don't. The ones that work, really do though!
Definitely Joy Division, but then again I was late teens / early 20’s in late 70’s Manchester so they were a band I grew up with.
Although the /\/ / /\/ version is OK to me a different genre of music, JD were post punk whereas /\/ /\/ were the later Industrial. I do rate Pretty Hate Machine as the best debut album of all time but they can’t touch JD
Uh right on time, music taste expanding and refining, now shes a music elitist, to the guy, for picking nin. 😊
To each.
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You should try 'Hurt' by Eric Whitacre. It is sublime.
Mmm , Would JD have been as Popular if Ian Curtiss had not committed Suicide ? Not sure , found this one by JD kind of slung together at the last minute , not in a good way ! NIN version is properly finished IMO , with the Film "The Crow " I was always a bit spooked that
Brandon Lee was killed on set . Cheers
You might be right about the effect Curtis' death has had on the long-term appeal of this band.
They certainly had a lot of 'help', from signing for a label run by a high-profile TV presenter (Tony Wilson), having a producer (Martin Hannett) who presented their music in a certain way (certainly different to their raw, frenetic 'live' sound), to the artsy photography and packaging by Peter Saville and the like.
The one thing about the band that couldn't be contrived, of course, was the dramatic career and untimely death of Ian Curtis himself.
@@jonathancole833 Yes good points !
Ian Curtiss death just reminds me of a track
off Dire Srtaits 1st Album "In the Gallery "
They make more money when your gone !!
if you get my point ? cheers
Ive always thought that G , props for saying it ! ✊
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@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Agh !
Yay , wish peeps would just be honest about music ,and Art in General ,If its Crap just say so ! I have not got a problem with that concept . Tis like having a comment book in an Art Gallery ! If you dont like what is said , then dont put the book out !!
@@ghichens3418 yer logic is faultless sir and as you know I’m very much an adherent of that honesty first policy 🤣
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Joy Division....easily.
Joy Division the best version though I do like NIN’s version.
Americans in general make everythi g to poppy and polished when covering Joy Division, just my opinion ,not a criticism of anybody😂
To be fair British covers almost always seem pretentious and precious - neither of which is JD. JD had a very natural, unaffected presence - and I think that just comes from "owning" the music.
Joy Division's original is much better, the guitar is too overpowering in the NIN version.
Respect for Joy Division but much prefer the NIN version
Very mid JD song
The JD version is monotonous and amateurish imho , not helped by the fact I’ve always thought JD was the single most overhyped band of my lifetime and I’ve always held it against Bernard Sumner that he has struggled with playing the guitar his whole career 🤷♂️
I’m not very familiar with Nine Inch Nails work but they changed this track by their better musicianship I feel , and I really enjoyed their version . NIN.. by a country mile ✊
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Agreed. The JD version is pretty garbage if you ask me. Not very often does a cover improve upon an original, but this is a great example of that IMO.
@@DustyDigits and I THINK your correct 😀
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Any cover version of ANY Joy division songs is complete sacrilege. Much like cover versions of any original Grateful Dead. Warp and convolute Tom Jones and every other pop star who didn't even write their own material, but please tell me, what NIN song has been covered in the past 30 years? Trent Reznor is only famous because he happens to have a great record collection. Otherwise he is a talentless hack
your not wrong but to harsh, at least trent has a good ear and copied VERY good music !! and i feel NIN helped JD get some of the credit they deserve ! Good covers are like a tribute to greatness !
Have you never heard Hurt by Johnny Cash, a cover of Hurt by Nine Inch Nails?
@@lucas_berg actually I have heard the Johnny Cash version of that song. I would rather listen to boy named Sue played backwards on 16 rpm
@@danielorlando8172 okay and that means??
You can still delete your original comment bud it’s okay
The original by Joy Division ➗️ is my pick. Best Joy Division ➗️ cover is Swans version of the iconic Love Will Tear Us Apart.
NIN all day