Slight point of clarification on Mitochondrial DNA...it's not the same thing as X-DNA. I was just using the comparison to share how Mitochondrial DNA is passed down. mtDNA is NOT the X Chromosome.
This is really helpful! I definitely misinterpreted you! "I can't imagine she had all this stuff on her." I heard the reason why they were wearing so many items was because they rented by the night and had to be carrying everything they owned with them. I'm not sure if that was all the victims or just one/some of them though.
For anyone interested: Mitochondrial DNA is a short ring of DNA which is found inside the mitochondria of cells. This is a small organelle which is the site where the majority of the cellular energy is generated. The reason it is always passed down through the maternal line is that the mitochondria in a fertilised egg come from the egg cell and not the sperm cell. The reason this is analogous to the Y-chromosome is that only men can pass on a Y-chromosome to their descendants, and for a variety of reasons the Y-chromosome remains largely unaltered through generations.
I am Jack The Ripper! I am a Person who came back to life. I shall turn myself in so it can finally be solved. Whats Intristing is that I have 5 friends named Jack (and one of them has the last name Ripper even though he has no idea who jack the ripper is and were about to learn it in class0
It at this time probably would have been suspicious for someone not to have some kind of facial hair. The celebrities of the time all would have had beards or prominent moustaches, those being people like Kings and Princes and nobility. Just like today they would have set the trend, much like those at royal court set the fashion trends throughout history.
One thing that modern people have a problem imagining, is when we talk about the darkness of the night, we likely don’t consider just how weak and spotty the lighting was available in a Victorian street in a poor neighborhood. Trying to identify anything back then would be extremely difficult.
What is crazy to me is why so many folks are out on the street at 330am. I understand that yhe ladies of the night are out, or some early folks are off to work, but some folks are just walking around, chilling outside, going for a stroll or even running errands. Like was sleep and quiet time not a thing in Victorian London
@@gamexsimmonds3581 Let's not forget that at the time it wasn't unusual to work 60-70 hrs per week and going to work meant walking. So it could be easily 12 hrs between leaving the house in the morning and coming back from work.
@@helenwood8482isn't if Tumblety had been the ripper , and on paper he was , surely he would have said so before this Catholic passed on , maybe he did admit to being jack - though only one or perhaps two of the Nuns heard him or indeed wanted to .
Yeah and he's very unlikely because he was homosexual. Its very rare for homosexual serial killers to kill women, their victims tend to be other homosexuals.
It's honestly impressive how schools make history so mind numbingly boring. Now that I'm in my thirties, I find history so interesting and enthralling. I'm devouring everything I can find about the Great War, or the American Civil War, the Aztec Empire, Ancient China, and even the Cold War. I've been reading biographies, journals, and watching every doc on UA-cam I can find. I wish I was this invested in history when I was in high school because back then you'd have caught me dead going through Ulysses S. Grant's memoirs.
@@brian0057 Sounds like you had a poor teacher as opposed to the school system itself making history, as you say, mind-numbingly boring. My HS history teacher is responsible for sparking my initial interest in the subject which has turned into a borderline obsession
I’m so glad you spent time talking about David Cohen. I’ve been into the Jack the Ripper case for roughly 15 years now, and no suspect comes as close to being the ripper as David Cohen does. He does have a few problems, but the big ways he fits are worth paying attention to.
I agree, I think Cohen is the best suspect that we know of. Maybrick is a fun one to think about but being a local is the easiest and simplest explanation.
I don't think its him even tho he is very likely. cause he has mental breakdowns and is violent. Jack is a psychopath who kills and takes trophy's of human parts. A voilent insane person wouldn't take trophy's. jack also had anatomical knowledge i mean he knew about blood spurts. I don't think a normie insane person would know that. jack was also well dresses,.... cohen is allegedly poor. jack was also perfect in his murders leaving no evidence behind.. he also knows about patrol times and streets. an inane person doing research about patrol times and detective work seems unlikely. with psycological study you would know that a psychopath would never go to the asylum willingly nor will anyone know he is a psychopath until u catch him.
As compelling as cohen is, it seems very unlikely that someone as easily irritated and blatantly violent as him would be capable of acquiring the attention of prostitutes, because what is rarely in dispute is that the ripper likely had some visual charm on him. For example a proper demeanour, or respectable appearance.
The point on David Cohen I can kind of see. The potential deterioration of his mental health may be able to explain why the last murder was so horrific compared to rest. It should also be noted that serial killers can often hide their mental health problems around ordinary people until they get the opportunity to kill (ie: Bundy) which may explain why witnesses noted the ordinary appearance of the man seen with the victims before their murders.
Jeez. I know that when Futurama made its return it was pretty bad compared to the early pre-hiatus episodes but cut David X Cohen some slack. He is only like 90% likely to be Jack the ripper.
@@idontknowleavemealoneplease It oculd also be David S Cohen. And obviously the dutch historian, the rabbi, the MIT physicist, the psychologist, the playwritght, the history professor, the author, the intelligence officer, the politician, the other politician, the other other politician, the politician who works at Comcast, the sports caster, the art critic, the writer, the editor, the playwright, the US college football coach, the keyboardist, the other keyboardist, the cellist, the diplomat, the immigration lawyer, the soldier, or any of the other David Cohen
that was the running joke Lemmino did, every moment mitochondria eventually "sneak" into the script, he would deliver the joke, it gets me every time lol
What works against Barnett's case being the Ripper, or even having killed Mary Jane Kelly, is the absolute meticulous aspect of her mutilations: Yes, overkill is usually a hint that the killer personally knew their victim... but there's overkill, and Capital-O Overkill as seen here. Former lovers usually tend to kill their ex-partners up close and personal in a frenzied manner (knife, strangulation, etc), then they stop when the adrenaline falls down and they realize what they have done. No way I could picture Barnett having the stomach to sit down and meticulously multilate a woman he ostensibly loved in such a grizzly way, for hours. The Ripper took his sweet, sweet time to disfigure the victim to dehumanize her first, then take out every single organ and entrails out of her, and display it around in a ghoulish manner to shock anyone who would discover the victim later. This indicates a) it definitely wasn't the first time this killer had killed, and b) that the catharsis of the ritualistic post-mortem acts was the whole point of the crime.
Which makes me thing that the first "official" victim had a personal connection to her murderer. You don't stab someone 39 times if you don't have some emotional connection that pushes such an emotional action.
Problem with Barnett is the Ripper took time in disfiguring Kelly's face and slicing off her breasts. If the suspect knows the victim and wants to get their own back 'usually' this doesn't happen. They commit a frenzied attack on them but leave their looks untouched as a weird kind of dedication of their love. The attack wasnt frenzied which as you say, also counts against Barrett. Usually, when someone's looks are attacked it is because they turned down or laughed at the suspect. It would be the perfect MO for a friend of Barrett who liked Kelly but it was unreciprocated, possibly had some kind of disfigurement or disability and she turned him down.
I have a different take on this. I actually can see Barnett disfiguring her because Kelly would be the ideal perfect embodiment of the problem that a person who hates prostitutes like Barnett would have against prostitutes. If he was the Ripper, remember that he killed other prostitutes in a ghoulish way in order to dehumanize them because of his hatred towards them. And because he loved Kelly, the effects of Kelly's prostitution and rejection of his feelings would produce an extreme type of anger that Barnett would have against someone like Kelly. After all the attempts to convince her to not be a prostitute, scaring her off the streets and taking out his anger on prostitutes by dehumanising them and killing them in a brutal manner, she still refused to love him in return and to stop being a prostitute. And because of the breakup and his absolute hatred of prostitutes that unrequited love could then evolve to absolute fierce hatred for her because in his mind, she forced him to kill other people and work hard for her, and in his mind because she's a prostitute who rejected him, she essentially became the living embodiment of everything wrong with what a prostitute is in his mind. And because of that, it led him to commit the most brutal of his crimes against her, as a crime of passion and extreme hatred towards prostitution as she would now just be seen as a demon in his eyes after all that she has allegedly done to him by refusing to love him back and refusing to stop being a prostitute. But that's just my explanation, I could be wrong though, and I see it as a possibility considering that the Ripper took Kelly's heart with him as a sick souvenir. Maybe because of Barnett's supposed love that he kept the heart as a sick souvenir that reminds him of what could've been the love he wished he could have
This has Been my favorite series you’ve done so far! I hope you can check out some more of LEMMiNO’s videos in the future even though there are only a handful with historical value. Perhaps the D.B. Cooper video would be worth a watch next?
Imagine sitting in some pub opposite a guy who was Jack the Ripper and never knowing, the mystery is truly the biggest part of the attraction of the case.
I never gave more than a passing thought to Jack the Ripper until you reacted to this. But damn if it isn't one of the more interesting mysteries in history. This has been fascinating.
I saw a photograph of Mary Jane Kelly, and though I have a very strong stomach, being a medical student and having dissected bodies myself, I could hardly stand to look at it for more than a few seconds. It was truly the stuff of nightmares.
It doesn't even look real, what the man did to Mary Jane Kelly. There's nothing recognizable there, everything is cut to pieces, destroyed, brutalized, the only thing left intact are the ears (just barely). Horrible.
I really appreciate this guys honor and all around respect. I can whole heartedly say i wish i had you as a teacher lol. History is so interesting and inspiring in so many ways. So many lessons can be learned from the mistakes of others and in such a time of documentation you’d be silly to not analyze everyone throughout civilization
Im not going to take a guess on who he was but the story and history of it is truly interesting as hell. I like the idea he was in London for just a few months and vanished on a boat one night never to be seen and to be left a mystery for the rest of time for us to keep guessing . Keep up the good work and so happy to see the reaction this video by everyone is the same as mine . Was really looking forward to this one .
To say this is well done is an understatement, this documentary is truly a masterpiece. Your comments really do heighten it that much more, it really feels like i'm watching it with a history professor. The whole thing is so sad what happened to these poor ladies and at multiple points i get the chills from the creepiness of the whole ordeal. But strangely i also get the chills at the end as his voice is drifting away listing all the possible occupations- in that moment you really understand how very close and far away the ripper was. He was likely in the cops fingers, slipped through and is lost forever to history.
21:55 I can't agree here. You have to be a completely deranged person to disfigure someone like this. Especially a former lover. I don't think anyone who commits a "normal" murder out of passion has the stomach not to throw up while methodically slicing open someone and then be totally calm when the Police interrogates them.
Just want to say how perfect I think the timing of this series was. Autumn, right when the events were happening, and just before Halloween. It works even if it was unintentional. Definitely going to dive into some theories on my own time I’m now so fascinated by the whole thing. Can’t wait to see what you bring us next ❤️
My great grandad (surname Stevenson) was arrested twice due to been a strong suspect. He was an Undertaker from Hull, who travelled by boat to London most weekend. He was 32/33 during the time, was 5ft 6, worse posh undertaker clothing with a hat. After his 2nd arrest he disappeared from the family home, he returned a year later and then died not long after
I don't think that the point of the information about the carman, Lechmere/Cross, is that he killed on the way to work, but, that he was familiar with the area.
Totally unrelated topic if you didnt know, a cool trick i learned about UA-cam is the J key rewinds 10 secs, K pauses, and L fast forwards 10secs, so if you accidentally mute again you can just hit J and rewind in case you miss anything! I still use the space bar all the time but the J and L keys are super helpful!!! Thank you so much for such awesome content! Go Buckeyes!
@@nateparry8480 Also, pressing F enters full screen and if you click it again you go back to "normal view". If I'm right, it's entirely possible to navigate at least a video with keyboard. Don't know about searching and choosing videos from where you start at UA-cam (UA-cam home?).
After watching your 2 videos, I attempted to watch the rest of original video. And couldn't do it. I can't quite put my finger on it, but this isn't the first time this has occurred. So it's safe to assume that you definitely add something to the videos you feature. Thanks for that :)
I've the same problem. And here's my thought: the original video is an hour long, whereas VTH breaks up the video into 3 different parts allowing for easier digestion. That and the commentary livens up a video that could pass as ASMR.
This is one of the most interesting subjects you've covered so far. I wasn't very well versed on the history of Jack the Ripper and this video makes me want to take a deep dive into it. Good work from both you and the original content creator.
The deductions you've made are the second most compelling I've heard. I'm still a fan of the Charles lechmere theory but you're theory I'm willing to entertain after your arguments. Great series. Keep it up
16:28 lemmino also left out that Lechmere came from a broken home, having never known his biological father, which is very common for serial killers, so it is an interesting coincidence that he found the first body, but I don't think he is the ripper just based on the fact that the murders didn't continue until 1920 (when he died).
I think Lechmere is overlooked to much as the ripper and the reason I believe he is more likely the ripper than any of the others is you can place him in the proximity of more than one of the murders
@@barronstormblade4552 And also he was at Mary Ann Nichols' side mere MINUTES after she was attacked, and then went on to lie to the first policeman he and Paul saw on their way to work that there was already a policeman waiting there when there was not when they left, BUT when the policeman they spoke to got to the body there was another policeman there. He lied to the policeman he met and possibly knew the route of the other policeman and knew he would be there.
@@MrGforce52 Cross/Lechmere is interesting (he found the body very shortly after she was attacked) and he passed through Whitechapel and knew the place (mind you other suspects lived in the heart of it, which makes them equally fit the 'local man' profile). What I don't like about the documentary which fingers him as the prime suspect is the cherry picking of facts and statements, the omission of things that don't fit and the tunnel-vision displayed. 2 of the things presented as "fact" is the time gap between his departure and the finding of the body (there doesn't have to be any time gap if you look at the estimated times stated by those involved) and especially the Mizen-scam. There is great discussion over what was said between the 2, even the inquest doesn't make it clear, but it could very well have been a simple misunderstanding that had nothing sinister about it. And let's not forget Paul was with Cross/Lechmere when they BOTH spoke to Mizen (as he stated at the inquest), so it would be pretty difficult to tell a blatant lie.
@@clayallison7321 Indeed I strongly agree but I wouldn't say the doc is pointing the finger at him simply exploring the argument made by those who accused him just like the other suspects. Indeed not everything is perfect but what a video! Still not everything was included such as additional details which could be argued by some to lend credence to the Barnett theory.
@@StrongandStable17 I think the former poster is referring to the 2014 Channel Five documentary Jack the Ripper: The Missing Evidence. Well made and undoubtedly the first (and often only) source the Cross/Lechmere enthousiasts get their beliefs from that he was the killer. But indeed that documentary is very biased, with a lot of 'what ifs' presented as truth and with a careful selection of those facts that fit the theory but omission of those facts or questions that undermine it.
While I consider that Jack the Ripper video to be one of the best UA-cam documentaries I've ever seen, it was nice to hear some additional context and theorizing through these reactions
Fairly new viewer here, although I’ve already seen many of your videos. Listening to you is like listening to a friend. You’re so casual with your speech, you flub a little and keep going. It doesn’t feel scripted, or even “performed.” It just feels like friendly chatting.
Yeah, I also dont think he would just stop. People who think that someone would just be scared to continue really underestimate how deeply flawed you have to be to commit stuff like this. One thing is to kill someone from anger, spite, for money. And completely different is to play with bodies like this, if someone found joy in this and he already got the taste of it, there is no way he would stop on his own regardless of how many eyes were watching
I remember being a clerk in college. After the customer left, I wouldn't have been able to tell you what sex they are. That some people can retain so much information about people they see is pretty amazing.
Honestly, they probably don't. Our brains have a rough estimate and tend to fill in the gaps as they please. It's why eye witnesses so often contradict
Another aspect that makes me doubt that it's Tumblety is that he's American. Several witnesses claim to have heard the Ripper speak, so they would have noticed that he didn't have a British accent at the very least.
Would they though? I don't think he was the ripper but in an era before ready access to recorded audio how many people in white chapel would have recognized an American accent as being American, and wasn't whitechapel full of immigrants so someone having an accent wouldn't necessarily stand out in people's minds.
@@bruceparker1970 I don't know about that. Working class Londoner, Eastern-European accented English, and American are pretty distinct accents, especially back in the 19th century. It's not even the case of whether or not witnesses would be able to recognize an American accent, just that "hey, this guy doesn't sound British, must be foreign". Plus, you had stuff in London like Buffalo Bill's Wild West show and other American exports that could probably have given at least some Londoners a bare idea of what an American sounds like.
I'm so glad I found your videos on this topic. I used to look into this case a lot and came to the same conclusions as you with regards to the suspects, I literally felt so much self-affirmation when you brought up David Cohen. I have been a subscriber to this theory for a long while now. In my opinion we do not and will not know his name, he was more than likely incarcerated or hospitalised and history has forgotten his name. For some reason the name Nathan Kaminsky keeps coming into my head, but I don't know why. Anyway thank you for such a brilliant reaction and take on this great video, would love to have a conversation about this case and similar cases sometime, you seem very open and intelligent. Again well done and again thank you :)
I watch "From Hell" yesterday after your request. Thanks a lot. It was very interesting and this complet jack the ripper stuff is also very nice. Your comments are great!
I'm not sure what my top suspect is, but the idea that he just died after committing murders really sticks with me. People die from random circumstance all the time. An instance of sheer bad luck might have ended the whole killing spree. We will never know, but the legend will live on. It's crazy.
You are truly one of the most interesting reaction channels out there. You always have something interesting to say, and you provide such insightful pieces of information, which really do enhance the original material you are viewing. I learned quite a bit more from your viewing experience of this video, even though I have already watched the original video like 5 times already. This Jack the Ripper video is my favourite off of Lemmino's channel. The topic is truly intriguing to me, and as a result I have watched many others videos on UA-cam regarding Jack the Ripper, and other reactions of this video. I'm so glad I stumbled across yours, I will probably rewatch it again at some point. :D
Just found your channel through the Philomena Cunk reactions and after those spent the day binging on Jack the Ripper. Lemmino and your commentary were probably the best summary of the case I have seen. About thirty years ago I was really into the case reading as much as I could find on it. While some of the theories are fun to read about, I have to say I lean toward Cohen being the Ripper.
Hi! I've Watched your reaction 3 times now - I love the video and your reaction! I'm very pleased to have learnt a lot more about the topic, with another Historian's point of view as well. I first watched your WWI Oversimplified reactions, but have seen many more videos by you over time. Personally I think it was either David Cohen (1st Choice), James Maybrick (2nd Choice) or Charles Cross (3rd Choice), but I really appreciate the fact you explained your theory so clearly and added extra bits of information from your own knowledge every few moments. Along with the video itself, this is probably one of my favourite informative videos / series I have ever seen over my 6 years on UA-cam. So thank for for such an interesting mini series! Enjoy a new subscriber - I'm excited to learn more about history with your videos!
The problem for me of all "dead" cases is we look at the evidence through modern eyes. Policing at that time was still a "new" thing relatively sleeking (Robert Peel started the Met in 1829) and while a lot of advance in collation of evidence had been made, it still relatively simplified process from today. Chris identifies co-ordination is poor between forces, there is no standardized reporting between them and above all this it the problems of London itself in that population is growing faster than than the authority can monitor with people living transitory lives- how can a detective go back and check a witness if he can't find them. My opinion is given the cases seem to abruptly stop, the killer left town because the police got too close (most probable) or they died of disease, an accident or were themselves a murder victim.
Bobbie's Peelers weren't even police-they were a protection racket. Local businesses paid a tithe and Peel would send around ex gang members and cut throats to check the premises hadn't been broken into. There was an earlier police service in Glasgow but as you say, by the 1880s , sheriffs were still a thing and they weren't even fingerprinting properly yet
I think part of the terror raised by these attacks, beyond the actual facts, was that from the late 1830s onwards there was already a longstanding bogeyman figure in London (and throughout England), which became part of English folklore from various claimed sightings and reports, called "Spring-heeled Jack". He was so named because he was able to jump over high walls etc with ease. He wore a black helmet, black cape, and had steel claws on his hands - which he would slash at victims with, he also had bright red eyes and could apparently spit forth fire before rushing off with great bounds. There were quite a few of these sightings reported by various witnesses, including soldiers at Aldershot barracks. The last reported sighting was in 1904. So "Spring-heeled Jack" would have been a well known bogeyman, particularly in London, where the sightings first started, when the Ripper killings started. It's easy to see how the two sorts of "Jack" blended into the English psyche of the time, especially if you were walking alone down a dimly lit backstreet in Whitechapel in 1888. "The vast urban legend built around Spring-heeled Jack influenced many aspects of Victorian life, especially in contemporary popular culture. For decades, especially in London, his name was equated with the bogeyman, as a means of scaring children into behaving by telling them if they were not good, Spring-heeled Jack would leap up and peer in at them through their bedroom windows, by night. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack
In my opinion, if Maybrick's actual handwriting is different from the diary, then the diary is a fake. I just cannot get past that. I like the "David Cohen/Kaminski" candidate with syphilis, except for one thing (which you pointed out), if he was stark raving mad from syphilis by then, he wouldn't fit the profile. I really don't think it was the American quack doctor though simply because he was six foot two and 55 years old and American to boot. Someone like that would stick out like a sore thumb in a Victorian London ghetto. I am also very open to the idea that Mary Kelly might not have been a Ripper victim and that she was actually killed by her boyfriend. It's one of those mysteries for the ages. Great work on this one. Thanks so much for running us through it.
@@Kriegter Tonight on Top Gear, I write a letter to the news agency pretending to be a murderer, James harvests organs from prostitutes and Richard gets interrogated by the police
David Cohen did receive treatment for syphilis and probably was still insane but somewhat more stable than a full blown syphilis patient. Depends on person to person how syphilis works.
One thing that gives me pause with some of these suspects (which i haven't seen mentioned in the comments) is that the killer was described as being respectfully dressed. I just wonder how hard would it have been for a poor worker in 1888 London to save up and buy respectful clothes while also paying rent, etc.
32:19 I read on one website that "David Cohen" aka Nathan Kosminsky may have lived at or near Bucks Row where it was believed the murderer was interrupted. This would explain why nobody heard someone fleeing if he lived right in there. Perhaps he heard Lechmere coming and quickly went home before anyone saw him. Neither witness described hearing anyone fleeing the scene and one of them should have heard something if someone was indeed running away. Also, the very next murder of Annie Chapman happens in a secluded backyard where nobody would be able to interrupt him. After first hearing the scenario around Mary Ann Nichols killing I couldn't get around how it wasn't Lechmere given the circumstances of the murders, but I doubt the real murderer would have voluntarily gone to police in any fashion had they been running around killing people. I suppose it's possible, but I doubt it.
Interesting that the theory is that he was interviewed by the police at some point. The Yorkshire ripper, 100 odd years later, was also interviewed (nine times!). His colleagues used to jokingly refer to him as 'the ripper' at work.
The issue with Lechmere murdering on his way to work can be explained by a murderer who simply struck at the most convenient time with nobody about and he must have observed the Police movements, as well as anyone else. Early morning before sunrise and an excuse to be in that area at the time of the murder also can explain why the murder of Polly Nichols happened at around 03:37-03:45. The excuse being his commute to Pickfords. Stride and Eddowes were weekend murders in a different location and different times of the late night/early morning which means that The Ripper wasn't on his way to work. You can be on your way to anything or any activity, but if you are a serial killer then if conditions are right and you have the urge then they go for it don't they? Lechmere did it in my humble opinion (Nichols). There are glaring facts that if you dig deep enough, then Lechmere becomes highly suspicious.
IDK if you notice, but in the video 44:02 it shows Nathan Kaminski as a suspect, so he at least acknowledges that he could be jack the ripper, and personally he does seem like the most likely suspect, as for the part where he was crazy at that point, it could be because not only the illness got worse but also maybe because he couldn't kill anymore since the last supposedly murder victim was so brutally mutilated, but then again I'm no expert in this kind of stuff.
I know this comment is old, but I will put in my 2 cents on your last comment. I may be wrong, but you seem to be suggesting that he had satisfied his desire to kill with the last victim. That is VERY unlikely. It is well documented that serial killers fantasize first, and eventually are driven to act out those fantasies. However, once they do, they don't just become satisfied. They want to go even further, and elements of what they do often become ritualistic. Some do have more self control than others, the BTK killer killed 10 people between 71 and 91, then went silent other than occasionally taunting the police and news till be was caught in 2005. Which isn't to say he didn't want to kill anymore, he confessed to making plans and stalking people, but wasn't able to carry any of those plans out. He is a rare example of a more meticulous and controlled killer, which was part of his pathology. He was obsessed with control. Bondage (Bind Torture Kill is what BTK stands for) was a big part of his MO. The Ripper was not in control. The short time between the killings, the rapid escalation, and risks taken make that clear. Assuming the canonical five were all his victims it paints a picture of someone who murders in a frenzy at first, stabbing wildly. But that isn't enough. Once he has another opportunity he strikes again, and goes further, and further, and further. That isn't someone who is capable of stopping of his own accord. Something made him stop, or he escaped to someplace where he could carry on without it being connected.
I love your channel and I love watching reactions to this specific LEMMINO video, but I do believe you are the first reactor to not get a chuckle from that "Mitochondria: the powerhouse of the cell" joke ha!
My suspect was shown right at the end of the video but never touched on: Carl Feigenbaum. From what I’ve heard he was a German merchant sailor who was in port during the murders and later after the murders stopped in England, he was caught, charged and found guilty in America of a very similar ‘ripper like’ murder
18:29 the only similar thing is that you are cutting up flesh with a knife, which I think might explain why there was so much disagreement among the experts about whether the ripper had anatomical knowledge, as Barrnett would've been skilled at using a knife to cut flesh, but wouldn't have know much about human anatomy.
if anyone is interested, there's a channel name "Jack The Ripper Tour" narrated by Richard Jones (if i'm not wrong, one of those long time Ripperologist), the channel features quite a few locations in London regarding Jack the Ripper and a few other interesting Victorian London stuff.
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As much as I would love to be able to one day say I was alive when they finally found out who he was, part of me kinda wants it to stay a mystery forever. THAT is what adds to the allure of the whole case, and while some suspects do fit better than others, I think Lemmino is right when he says it could have been some random guy who was around London for a little bit
‘The Cases That Haunt Us’ has shaped my view not only on who The Ripper was but also the fate of the Zodiac Killer as well. Long story longer regarding the Zodiac: I don’t believe he killed again after the last “canonical” victim and killed him self after the last letter.
Giving another name could also be about hiding identity because you have warrants, grudges, or debts (both private and public) floating about. Private loan sharks out for gambling debts or other personal scores or whatever might have been as feared by many as The Ripper.
There is something weirdly plausible about the theory that he came to London for a few months and then just disappeared into the abyss of the new world.
I think there's a strong case to be made against james maybrick, he had a strong motive if the diary is to be believed, was a cotton merchant so would match the description of having a respectable appearance (and george hutchinson's description of the ripper being well off), would gravitate towards holidays to commit the murders as those would be the only times he would be free, his photographs show that he had quite a prominent mustache- another match, and his early death explains why the ripper stopped so abruptly. the possible refutations of this theory might be- why would a well off cotton merchant be so intimately familiar with the streets and byways of a destitute neighborhood such as East End( I strongly believe the ripper had to be, he managed to escape in a matter of mere minutes on multiple occasions), a cotton merchant would have a hard time explaining blood on his clothes to others, and why did he not kill his wife as well. P.S- if VTH is reading this, I would love to hear your theories in detail, your discussion in the video left me a bit unsatisfied so I would love to see another video on the subject, my current dissatisfaction notwithstanding I do love your channel and this series as well but I would have loved to see a more elaborate discussion on the topic. love from India!
About the blood, it is a popular theory that Jack strangled his victims before murdering them and would only cut them up afterwards to not get blood on his clothes. If it has been Maybrick, he also probably didn't kill his wife because that would put all the spotlight on him and he'd become the prime suspect in a heartbeat. Especially if word had gone out that she was cheating. Maybrick would've gotten busted for sure.
@@theazureknight9399 The strangulation would indeed prevent arterial spray, but you have to remember that he is still cutting up his victims pretty badly. There is no real way to cut open an abdomen, take out the intestines and remove a womb fe without getting at least some amount of blood and/or bodily fluids on your hands and arms.
@@stefaanVleeschouwer stripping his clothes would also not seem like an option, since he did these murders in alleyways and courtyards, but it might be possible that he was using a pair of long gloves to hide the bloodstains, but what do I know, I'm no forensic investigator
So quick thought about Barnett possibly being the killer, so he’s a fisher or whatever, and I forget which victim it is but when they said they were “severed from neck to bottom of spine” is exactly how you gut and clean a fish!!! Probably just me thinking this but I instantly connected that especially being a fisher my self I know how to clean and gut a fish.
Interestingly there is a record of a George Hutchinson boarding the RMS Ormuz to Australia in July 1889 (weeks after another murder in the Whitechapel area) and some have used this as further evidence he was the Ripper. It should be noted however that there is no possible way to know if that individual was the same person.
During this time-periode it was also normal to accuse someone you didn't like, or needed to rid of in order to persuit your own goals. I know of more than one account where a disabled or mentally challenged person was charged with a crime from a family member of theirs to rid of them from the family, even tho they hadn't done anything. That was normal practice in the late 1800s, meaning you could build a case against practically everyone. It's a part of why they had so many suspects as well. Some of the witnesses (and to be honest, probably also some of the cops) had biases and people they wanted to blame the murders on
unless someone invents a time machine and goes back to quietly observe who the killer was, we will never know. I do agree the police either had an idea who the killer was or at least had some kind of contact with the killer whether they suspected him at the time or not
These are so good. Oh my God, they're so good. Lemino is amazing at what he does. Please react to more of his videos. He has several, perhaps his video on D.B. Cooper would be a great one to do next. Just an idea. You're knowledge of the Jack the Ripper case added a lot to this and that's saying a lot because Lemino is thorough. You're awesome, man. Keep it going! I love this channel.
My theory about the killer is that, considering people that time used syringes to take heroin and morphine, he could have used a substance that injected would paralyse the victims instantly, considering nobody heard anything during the murders, and the killer would have enjoyed the butchering while the victims were still alive. Or a substance that reacted with the alcohol in the victims to paralyse them,considering most were drunk or had alcohol in their system already. As a person that witnessed many pig killings, I can say blood coagulates quite rapidly, and for victims dead for over 30 minutes laying in a pool of blood still, might indicate they were still alive during these killings and died from the blood loss rather than strangulation. We could look at suspects that might have had knowledge of chemistry or access to paralytic drugs. Plus, it's hard for me to believe a serial killer wouldn't enjoy his victims still being alive while doing his work, and he could have thrown the syringes somewhere and police would discard them as heroin syringes used by junkies. It's also possible the killer had his way with words, getting his victims to trust him enough to make some of them believe the paralytic was heroin, not having to do much to force them to be quiet. In the last case I even thought that cry of murder some of them heard was a sexual roleplay where the lady screamed it, but not loud enough, in a playful manner, hinting she trusted the killer enough to get in bed with him and then boom syringe. Something worth looking into.
I don't think it was Barnett, even for the simple reason that any of her acquaintances or neighbors would know him since he was in a relationship with her and was previously a tenant in the same place. Anyone that knew him or knew of him would have named him rather than just say "she was in the company of a man"
21:55 That would make Barnett more fascinating than the Ripper, considering the MJK scene was more gruesome than all the others combined IMO, and is the biggest factor which makes the Ripper case so intriguing to this day
Slight point of clarification on Mitochondrial DNA...it's not the same thing as X-DNA. I was just using the comparison to share how Mitochondrial DNA is passed down. mtDNA is NOT the X Chromosome.
And does not affect your larger point. Great analysis.
This is really helpful! I definitely misinterpreted you!
"I can't imagine she had all this stuff on her."
I heard the reason why they were wearing so many items was because they rented by the night and had to be carrying everything they owned with them. I'm not sure if that was all the victims or just one/some of them though.
All I know from my Highschool Biology class is dominant, recessive, X (male) Y (female) and the combinations of DNA.
For anyone interested: Mitochondrial DNA is a short ring of DNA which is found inside the mitochondria of cells. This is a small organelle which is the site where the majority of the cellular energy is generated. The reason it is always passed down through the maternal line is that the mitochondria in a fertilised egg come from the egg cell and not the sperm cell. The reason this is analogous to the Y-chromosome is that only men can pass on a Y-chromosome to their descendants, and for a variety of reasons the Y-chromosome remains largely unaltered through generations.
I am Jack The Ripper! I am a Person who came back to life. I shall turn myself in so it can finally be solved. Whats Intristing is that I have 5 friends named Jack (and one of them has the last name Ripper even though he has no idea who jack the ripper is and were about to learn it in class0
To be fair, its 1888 london, of course the guy has a moustache. The question is how magnificent said moustache is.
I'd have given a Guinea to have come up with this comment first
Absolutely. And, the less it is understood by non-history buffs, the better.
If they look for a guy with a moustache and a hat, that means about half the population.
This made my night better
It at this time probably would have been suspicious for someone not to have some kind of facial hair. The celebrities of the time all would have had beards or prominent moustaches, those being people like Kings and Princes and nobility. Just like today they would have set the trend, much like those at royal court set the fashion trends throughout history.
One thing that modern people have a problem imagining, is when we talk about the darkness of the night, we likely don’t consider just how weak and spotty the lighting was available in a Victorian street in a poor neighborhood. Trying to identify anything back then would be extremely difficult.
Too bad they didn't have Walmart cameras.. you catch him in no time, any criminal is crystal clear on those cameras
What is crazy to me is why so many folks are out on the street at 330am. I understand that yhe ladies of the night are out, or some early folks are off to work, but some folks are just walking around, chilling outside, going for a stroll or even running errands. Like was sleep and quiet time not a thing in Victorian London
I struggle to see things in my bedroom when the curtains are closed. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to do it in London with the smog.
@@gamexsimmonds3581 Your comment made me really laugh. That's something that I never considered - why are the streets so busy at 2-3 am?
@@gamexsimmonds3581 Let's not forget that at the time it wasn't unusual to work 60-70 hrs per week and going to work meant walking. So it could be easily 12 hrs between leaving the house in the morning and coming back from work.
Even if Tumblety did write some of the letters, he sounds like the type of guy to fake being a murderer, just for his own ego.
exactly, everything fits together way too perfectly
If I recall a day before Lusk received the From Hell letter a woman was asked by a guy who matched Tumblety’s description what Lusk’s address was.
@@helenwood8482 what about the from hell letter
@@helenwood8482isn't if Tumblety had been the ripper , and on paper he was , surely he would have said so before this Catholic passed on , maybe he did admit to being jack - though only one or perhaps two of the Nuns heard him or indeed wanted to .
Yeah and he's very unlikely because he was homosexual. Its very rare for homosexual serial killers to kill women, their victims tend to be other homosexuals.
Never thought history would be this interesting, but since I discovered your channel me thoughts have truly changed
History is the most interesting subject outside of my field imo, so much variety you can research practically anything you are interested.
@@HarrisonCoe What's your field?
It's honestly impressive how schools make history so mind numbingly boring.
Now that I'm in my thirties, I find history so interesting and enthralling.
I'm devouring everything I can find about the Great War, or the American Civil War, the Aztec Empire, Ancient China, and even the Cold War.
I've been reading biographies, journals, and watching every doc on UA-cam I can find.
I wish I was this invested in history when I was in high school because back then you'd have caught me dead going through Ulysses S. Grant's memoirs.
I think you would like the Hardcore History podcast by Dan Carlin who is not an historian but it's very knowledgeable and a great storyteller
@@brian0057 Sounds like you had a poor teacher as opposed to the school system itself making history, as you say, mind-numbingly boring. My HS history teacher is responsible for sparking my initial interest in the subject which has turned into a borderline obsession
I’m so glad you spent time talking about David Cohen.
I’ve been into the Jack the Ripper case for roughly 15 years now, and no suspect comes as close to being the ripper as David Cohen does.
He does have a few problems, but the big ways he fits are worth paying attention to.
I agree, I think Cohen is the best suspect that we know of. Maybrick is a fun one to think about but being a local is the easiest and simplest explanation.
I don't think its him even tho he is very likely. cause he has mental breakdowns and is violent.
Jack is a psychopath who kills and takes trophy's of human parts. A voilent insane person wouldn't take trophy's.
jack also had anatomical knowledge i mean he knew about blood spurts. I don't think a normie insane person would know that.
jack was also well dresses,.... cohen is allegedly poor.
jack was also perfect in his murders leaving no evidence behind.. he also knows about patrol times and streets. an inane person doing research about patrol times and detective work seems unlikely.
with psycological study you would know that a psychopath would never go to the asylum willingly nor will anyone know he is a psychopath until u catch him.
As compelling as cohen is, it seems very unlikely that someone as easily irritated and blatantly violent as him would be capable of acquiring the attention of prostitutes, because what is rarely in dispute is that the ripper likely had some visual charm on him. For example a proper demeanour, or respectable appearance.
@@technoguy1290 I think you are choosing your own vision of what for each person insane might mean .
@@jamescorlett5272 im going based on the mental state described in records. it seems a lot like bipolar disorder.
The point on David Cohen I can kind of see. The potential deterioration of his mental health may be able to explain why the last murder was so horrific compared to rest. It should also be noted that serial killers can often hide their mental health problems around ordinary people until they get the opportunity to kill (ie: Bundy) which may explain why witnesses noted the ordinary appearance of the man seen with the victims before their murders.
Jeez. I know that when Futurama made its return it was pretty bad compared to the early pre-hiatus episodes but cut David X Cohen some slack. He is only like 90% likely to be Jack the ripper.
@@idontknowleavemealoneplease It oculd also be David S Cohen.
And obviously the dutch historian, the rabbi, the MIT physicist, the psychologist, the playwritght, the history professor, the author, the intelligence officer, the politician, the other politician, the other other politician, the politician who works at Comcast, the sports caster, the art critic, the writer, the editor, the playwright, the US college football coach, the keyboardist, the other keyboardist, the cellist, the diplomat, the immigration lawyer, the soldier, or any of the other David Cohen
I laughed so hard at "the powerhouse of the cell" after he said mitochondria.
I’m glad I, who just watched this, found this comment 😂
@@rjgraddy11 Same.
high school biology flashback moment.
that was the running joke Lemmino did, every moment mitochondria eventually "sneak" into the script, he would deliver the joke, it gets me every time lol
@@ryndrssnthat’s so fun!
What works against Barnett's case being the Ripper, or even having killed Mary Jane Kelly, is the absolute meticulous aspect of her mutilations: Yes, overkill is usually a hint that the killer personally knew their victim... but there's overkill, and Capital-O Overkill as seen here. Former lovers usually tend to kill their ex-partners up close and personal in a frenzied manner (knife, strangulation, etc), then they stop when the adrenaline falls down and they realize what they have done. No way I could picture Barnett having the stomach to sit down and meticulously multilate a woman he ostensibly loved in such a grizzly way, for hours. The Ripper took his sweet, sweet time to disfigure the victim to dehumanize her first, then take out every single organ and entrails out of her, and display it around in a ghoulish manner to shock anyone who would discover the victim later. This indicates a) it definitely wasn't the first time this killer had killed, and b) that the catharsis of the ritualistic post-mortem acts was the whole point of the crime.
Which makes me thing that the first "official" victim had a personal connection to her murderer. You don't stab someone 39 times if you don't have some emotional connection that pushes such an emotional action.
Exactly what I thought.
Problem with Barnett is the Ripper took time in disfiguring Kelly's face and slicing off her breasts. If the suspect knows the victim and wants to get their own back 'usually' this doesn't happen. They commit a frenzied attack on them but leave their looks untouched as a weird kind of dedication of their love. The attack wasnt frenzied which as you say, also counts against Barrett. Usually, when someone's looks are attacked it is because they turned down or laughed at the suspect. It would be the perfect MO for a friend of Barrett who liked Kelly but it was unreciprocated, possibly had some kind of disfigurement or disability and she turned him down.
@@HappyBeezerStudiosyeah I was thinking that as well. It takes a ton of effort to stab someone 39 times.
I have a different take on this. I actually can see Barnett disfiguring her because Kelly would be the ideal perfect embodiment of the problem that a person who hates prostitutes like Barnett would have against prostitutes. If he was the Ripper, remember that he killed other prostitutes in a ghoulish way in order to dehumanize them because of his hatred towards them. And because he loved Kelly, the effects of Kelly's prostitution and rejection of his feelings would produce an extreme type of anger that Barnett would have against someone like Kelly. After all the attempts to convince her to not be a prostitute, scaring her off the streets and taking out his anger on prostitutes by dehumanising them and killing them in a brutal manner, she still refused to love him in return and to stop being a prostitute. And because of the breakup and his absolute hatred of prostitutes that unrequited love could then evolve to absolute fierce hatred for her because in his mind, she forced him to kill other people and work hard for her, and in his mind because she's a prostitute who rejected him, she essentially became the living embodiment of everything wrong with what a prostitute is in his mind. And because of that, it led him to commit the most brutal of his crimes against her, as a crime of passion and extreme hatred towards prostitution as she would now just be seen as a demon in his eyes after all that she has allegedly done to him by refusing to love him back and refusing to stop being a prostitute.
But that's just my explanation, I could be wrong though, and I see it as a possibility considering that the Ripper took Kelly's heart with him as a sick souvenir. Maybe because of Barnett's supposed love that he kept the heart as a sick souvenir that reminds him of what could've been the love he wished he could have
This has Been my favorite series you’ve done so far! I hope you can check out some more of LEMMiNO’s videos in the future even though there are only a handful with historical value. Perhaps the D.B. Cooper video would be worth a watch next?
In my opinion I think his D.B cooper is one of his best videos, I really hope VTH checks its out in the future
@@KingArcher141 the DB cooper and flight MH370 are his two best
@@rylan2314 Cicada is pretty good too
Dyatlov Pass would be interesting
Yes I think a DB Cooper Vid would be great!!!
Imagine sitting in some pub opposite a guy who was Jack the Ripper and never knowing, the mystery is truly the biggest part of the attraction of the case.
When Dahmers face was revealed my grandmother was happy to know she rejected him at a college bar.
These things are spooky.
@@brendenbaxter3269Dahmer was gay he targeted men.
@@adamirishconundrum851doesn’t mean he didn’t try other things
I’ve been waiting all day for this 😂😂can’t wait to watch it
Same here 😂😂
lol
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I never gave more than a passing thought to Jack the Ripper until you reacted to this. But damn if it isn't one of the more interesting mysteries in history. This has been fascinating.
Just finished part 2. Been hitting refresh for 20 minutes. Love the content so much
I saw a photograph of Mary Jane Kelly, and though I have a very strong stomach, being a medical student and having dissected bodies myself, I could hardly stand to look at it for more than a few seconds. It was truly the stuff of nightmares.
It doesn't even look real, what the man did to Mary Jane Kelly. There's nothing recognizable there, everything is cut to pieces, destroyed, brutalized, the only thing left intact are the ears (just barely). Horrible.
I really appreciate this guys honor and all around respect. I can whole heartedly say i wish i had you as a teacher lol. History is so interesting and inspiring in so many ways. So many lessons can be learned from the mistakes of others and in such a time of documentation you’d be silly to not analyze everyone throughout civilization
If we don't learn from history we're doomed to repeat it.
Im not going to take a guess on who he was but the story and history of it is truly interesting as hell. I like the idea he was in London for just a few months and vanished on a boat one night never to be seen and to be left a mystery for the rest of time for us to keep guessing . Keep up the good work and so happy to see the reaction this video by everyone is the same as mine . Was really looking forward to this one .
To say this is well done is an understatement, this documentary is truly a masterpiece. Your comments really do heighten it that much more, it really feels like i'm watching it with a history professor.
The whole thing is so sad what happened to these poor ladies and at multiple points i get the chills from the creepiness of the whole ordeal. But strangely i also get the chills at the end as his voice is drifting away listing all the possible occupations- in that moment you really understand how very close and far away the ripper was. He was likely in the cops fingers, slipped through and is lost forever to history.
21:55 I can't agree here. You have to be a completely deranged person to disfigure someone like this. Especially a former lover.
I don't think anyone who commits a "normal" murder out of passion has the stomach not to throw up while methodically slicing open someone and then be totally calm when the Police interrogates them.
I would 2nd this.
Coping Jack the ripper to hide your murder is one thing but go so complete derange to do THAT to someone is something else.
Completely no way a scorned lover or w/e would do that. The things that were done to her body could only have been done by an absolute maniac.
Just want to say how perfect I think the timing of this series was. Autumn, right when the events were happening, and just before Halloween. It works even if it was unintentional.
Definitely going to dive into some theories on my own time I’m now so fascinated by the whole thing. Can’t wait to see what you bring us next ❤️
My great grandad (surname Stevenson) was arrested twice due to been a strong suspect.
He was an Undertaker from Hull, who travelled by boat to London most weekend.
He was 32/33 during the time, was 5ft 6, worse posh undertaker clothing with a hat.
After his 2nd arrest he disappeared from the family home, he returned a year later and then died not long after
That’s crazy
I don't think that the point of the information about the carman, Lechmere/Cross, is that he killed on the way to work, but, that he was familiar with the area.
I've been waiting all day for this to drop! Awesome stuff. Still my fav channel
Totally unrelated topic if you didnt know, a cool trick i learned about UA-cam is the J key rewinds 10 secs, K pauses, and L fast forwards 10secs, so if you accidentally mute again you can just hit J and rewind in case you miss anything! I still use the space bar all the time but the J and L keys are super helpful!!! Thank you so much for such awesome content! Go Buckeyes!
Left and right arrow keys move back and forth 5 seconds as well. When paused, "," and"." move back and forth, frame by frame
0 as in zero restarts the video from the very beginning and you can use 1 through 9 to jump in 10% increments.
WHAT???? No way!!! I’m definitely going to use this!!!
@@nateparry8480 Also, pressing F enters full screen and if you click it again you go back to "normal view". If I'm right, it's entirely possible to navigate at least a video with keyboard. Don't know about searching and choosing videos from where you start at UA-cam (UA-cam home?).
@@nateparry8480 do u know u can use any finger or even thumbs
For some reason I got hooked on this jack the ripper story. I had never cared until now. Great video! Keep up the outstanding work.
These are probably the most fascinating videos you've done. So detailed and fascinating.
After watching your 2 videos, I attempted to watch the rest of original video. And couldn't do it.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but this isn't the first time this has occurred. So it's safe to assume that you definitely add something to the videos you feature. Thanks for that :)
Thanks Steve that means a lot.
I've the same problem. And here's my thought: the original video is an hour long, whereas VTH breaks up the video into 3 different parts allowing for easier digestion. That and the commentary livens up a video that could pass as ASMR.
This is one of the most interesting subjects you've covered so far. I wasn't very well versed on the history of Jack the Ripper and this video makes me want to take a deep dive into it. Good work from both you and the original content creator.
I’m loving this channel, his voice and knowledge is a breath of fresh air.
The deductions you've made are the second most compelling I've heard. I'm still a fan of the Charles lechmere theory but you're theory I'm willing to entertain after your arguments. Great series. Keep it up
16:28 lemmino also left out that Lechmere came from a broken home, having never known his biological father, which is very common for serial killers, so it is an interesting coincidence that he found the first body, but I don't think he is the ripper just based on the fact that the murders didn't continue until 1920 (when he died).
I think Lechmere is overlooked to much as the ripper
and the reason I believe he is more likely the ripper than any of the others is you can place him in the proximity of more than one of the murders
@@barronstormblade4552 And also he was at Mary Ann Nichols' side mere MINUTES after she was attacked, and then went on to lie to the first policeman he and Paul saw on their way to work that there was already a policeman waiting there when there was not when they left, BUT when the policeman they spoke to got to the body there was another policeman there. He lied to the policeman he met and possibly knew the route of the other policeman and knew he would be there.
@@MrGforce52 Cross/Lechmere is interesting (he found the body very shortly after she was attacked) and he passed through Whitechapel and knew the place (mind you other suspects lived in the heart of it, which makes them equally fit the 'local man' profile). What I don't like about the documentary which fingers him as the prime suspect is the cherry picking of facts and statements, the omission of things that don't fit and the tunnel-vision displayed. 2 of the things presented as "fact" is the time gap between his departure and the finding of the body (there doesn't have to be any time gap if you look at the estimated times stated by those involved) and especially the Mizen-scam. There is great discussion over what was said between the 2, even the inquest doesn't make it clear, but it could very well have been a simple misunderstanding that had nothing sinister about it.
And let's not forget Paul was with Cross/Lechmere when they BOTH spoke to Mizen (as he stated at the inquest), so it would be pretty difficult to tell a blatant lie.
@@clayallison7321 Indeed I strongly agree but I wouldn't say the doc is pointing the finger at him simply exploring the argument made by those who accused him just like the other suspects. Indeed not everything is perfect but what a video! Still not everything was included such as additional details which could be argued by some to lend credence to the Barnett theory.
@@StrongandStable17 I think the former poster is referring to the 2014 Channel Five documentary Jack the Ripper: The Missing Evidence. Well made and undoubtedly the first (and often only) source the Cross/Lechmere enthousiasts get their beliefs from that he was the killer. But indeed that documentary is very biased, with a lot of 'what ifs' presented as truth and with a careful selection of those facts that fit the theory but omission of those facts or questions that undermine it.
I’ve been checking every hour for this update!!
While I consider that Jack the Ripper video to be one of the best UA-cam documentaries I've ever seen, it was nice to hear some additional context and theorizing through these reactions
Fairly new viewer here, although I’ve already seen many of your videos. Listening to you is like listening to a friend. You’re so casual with your speech, you flub a little and keep going. It doesn’t feel scripted, or even “performed.” It just feels like friendly chatting.
Jack the Ripper Tour is indeed a brilliant channel
Yeah, I also dont think he would just stop. People who think that someone would just be scared to continue really underestimate how deeply flawed you have to be to commit stuff like this. One thing is to kill someone from anger, spite, for money. And completely different is to play with bodies like this, if someone found joy in this and he already got the taste of it, there is no way he would stop on his own regardless of how many eyes were watching
Hands down my Favorite video from your channel always coming back to watch
I remember being a clerk in college. After the customer left, I wouldn't have been able to tell you what sex they are. That some people can retain so much information about people they see is pretty amazing.
Honestly, they probably don't. Our brains have a rough estimate and tend to fill in the gaps as they please. It's why eye witnesses so often contradict
It helps if you're curious about people. Also, if you're a visual learner your brain will absorb more details.
Your channel is one of the best history subject channels on UA-cam.
Genuinely so fricken excited to watch this!! It being 51 minutes as well!
Another aspect that makes me doubt that it's Tumblety is that he's American. Several witnesses claim to have heard the Ripper speak, so they would have noticed that he didn't have a British accent at the very least.
He could have been playing a character in order to hide suspicion from himself. He seemed like a smart criminal.
Would they though? I don't think he was the ripper but in an era before ready access to recorded audio how many people in white chapel would have recognized an American accent as being American, and wasn't whitechapel full of immigrants so someone having an accent wouldn't necessarily stand out in people's minds.
@@bruceparker1970 Fair point. I still think they would have realized that he had a foreign accent and would have said so to the police.
@@bruceparker1970 I don't know about that. Working class Londoner, Eastern-European accented English, and American are pretty distinct accents, especially back in the 19th century. It's not even the case of whether or not witnesses would be able to recognize an American accent, just that "hey, this guy doesn't sound British, must be foreign". Plus, you had stuff in London like Buffalo Bill's Wild West show and other American exports that could probably have given at least some Londoners a bare idea of what an American sounds like.
I'm so glad I found your videos on this topic. I used to look into this case a lot and came to the same conclusions as you with regards to the suspects, I literally felt so much self-affirmation when you brought up David Cohen. I have been a subscriber to this theory for a long while now. In my opinion we do not and will not know his name, he was more than likely incarcerated or hospitalised and history has forgotten his name. For some reason the name Nathan Kaminsky keeps coming into my head, but I don't know why. Anyway thank you for such a brilliant reaction and take on this great video, would love to have a conversation about this case and similar cases sometime, you seem very open and intelligent. Again well done and again thank you :)
Favourite series you’ve done so far! Great insight all the way through
This was the part I was most looking forward too. Nice commentary VTH 👍
Now I'm really curious what you wanted to say about the lodger! What was it?
I watch "From Hell" yesterday after your request. Thanks a lot. It was very interesting and this complet jack the ripper stuff is also very nice. Your comments are great!
You make history so interesting! Love your reactions, you always explain things that aren't explained in the video itself, keep up the good work!
I believe that this might be one of the best videos yet, also this would make a really good live stream Q&A.
I'm not sure what my top suspect is, but the idea that he just died after committing murders really sticks with me. People die from random circumstance all the time. An instance of sheer bad luck might have ended the whole killing spree. We will never know, but the legend will live on. It's crazy.
You are truly one of the most interesting reaction channels out there. You always have something interesting to say, and you provide such insightful pieces of information, which really do enhance the original material you are viewing. I learned quite a bit more from your viewing experience of this video, even though I have already watched the original video like 5 times already.
This Jack the Ripper video is my favourite off of Lemmino's channel. The topic is truly intriguing to me, and as a result I have watched many others videos on UA-cam regarding Jack the Ripper, and other reactions of this video. I'm so glad I stumbled across yours, I will probably rewatch it again at some point. :D
Just found your channel through the Philomena Cunk reactions and after those spent the day binging on Jack the Ripper. Lemmino and your commentary were probably the best summary of the case I have seen. About thirty years ago I was really into the case reading as much as I could find on it. While some of the theories are fun to read about, I have to say I lean toward Cohen being the Ripper.
Glad you are back! Wish I could be a patron supporter, but I love the channel and I wait for anything that comes out 😊
i just finished t 2 previous episodes and so disappointed when there wasnt a part 3 already, im so happy rn
Hi!
I've Watched your reaction 3 times now - I love the video and your reaction! I'm very pleased to have learnt a lot more about the topic, with another Historian's point of view as well. I first watched your WWI Oversimplified reactions, but have seen many more videos by you over time.
Personally I think it was either David Cohen (1st Choice), James Maybrick (2nd Choice) or Charles Cross (3rd Choice), but I really appreciate the fact you explained your theory so clearly and added extra bits of information from your own knowledge every few moments. Along with the video itself, this is probably one of my favourite informative videos / series I have ever seen over my 6 years on UA-cam.
So thank for for such an interesting mini series! Enjoy a new subscriber - I'm excited to learn more about history with your videos!
Thank you so much for this! I love your videos. I listen to them while driving for work
I really enjoyed this series that you did. The original was great content, and you coupled it with strong, thoughtful commentary. Loved this.
The problem for me of all "dead" cases is we look at the evidence through modern eyes. Policing at that time was still a "new" thing relatively sleeking (Robert Peel started the Met in 1829) and while a lot of advance in collation of evidence had been made, it still relatively simplified process from today.
Chris identifies co-ordination is poor between forces, there is no standardized reporting between them and above all this it the problems of London itself in that population is growing faster than than the authority can monitor with people living transitory lives- how can a detective go back and check a witness if he can't find them.
My opinion is given the cases seem to abruptly stop, the killer left town because the police got too close (most probable) or they died of disease, an accident or were themselves a murder victim.
Bobbie's Peelers weren't even police-they were a protection racket. Local businesses paid a tithe and Peel would send around ex gang members and cut throats to check the premises hadn't been broken into. There was an earlier police service in Glasgow but as you say, by the 1880s , sheriffs were still a thing and they weren't even fingerprinting properly yet
I think part of the terror raised by these attacks, beyond the actual facts, was that from the late 1830s onwards there was already a longstanding bogeyman figure in London (and throughout England), which became part of English folklore from various claimed sightings and reports, called "Spring-heeled Jack". He was so named because he was able to jump over high walls etc with ease. He wore a black helmet, black cape, and had steel claws on his hands - which he would slash at victims with, he also had bright red eyes and could apparently spit forth fire before rushing off with great bounds. There were quite a few of these sightings reported by various witnesses, including soldiers at Aldershot barracks. The last reported sighting was in 1904. So "Spring-heeled Jack" would have been a well known bogeyman, particularly in London, where the sightings first started, when the Ripper killings started. It's easy to see how the two sorts of "Jack" blended into the English psyche of the time, especially if you were walking alone down a dimly lit backstreet in Whitechapel in 1888.
"The vast urban legend built around Spring-heeled Jack influenced many aspects of Victorian life, especially in contemporary popular culture. For decades, especially in London, his name was equated with the bogeyman,
as a means of scaring children into behaving by telling them if they
were not good, Spring-heeled Jack would leap up and peer in at them
through their bedroom windows, by night.
"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring-heeled_Jack
In my opinion, if Maybrick's actual handwriting is different from the diary, then the diary is a fake. I just cannot get past that. I like the "David Cohen/Kaminski" candidate with syphilis, except for one thing (which you pointed out), if he was stark raving mad from syphilis by then, he wouldn't fit the profile. I really don't think it was the American quack doctor though simply because he was six foot two and 55 years old and American to boot. Someone like that would stick out like a sore thumb in a Victorian London ghetto. I am also very open to the idea that Mary Kelly might not have been a Ripper victim and that she was actually killed by her boyfriend. It's one of those mysteries for the ages. Great work on this one. Thanks so much for running us through it.
My prediction is that James Maybrick decided to did a little trolling. Also, James May? Does that mean Top Gear committed the murders?
@@Kriegter Tonight on Top Gear, I write a letter to the news agency pretending to be a murderer, James harvests organs from prostitutes and Richard gets interrogated by the police
David Cohen did receive treatment for syphilis and probably was still insane but somewhat more stable than a full blown syphilis patient. Depends on person to person how syphilis works.
Absolutely loved this series. Love your insights into JTR, would love to see more content from you on this subject
You’re an absolute pleasure! Please keep up the amazing work!
Loved your reaction to this, hope to see you react to more Lemmino.
One thing that gives me pause with some of these suspects (which i haven't seen mentioned in the comments) is that the killer was described as being respectfully dressed.
I just wonder how hard would it have been for a poor worker in 1888 London to save up and buy respectful clothes while also paying rent, etc.
Gives more credence to the fact that the killer of Mary Jane Kelly in particular was well educated, affluent and extremely clever.
32:19 I read on one website that "David Cohen" aka Nathan Kosminsky may have lived at or near Bucks Row where it was believed the murderer was interrupted. This would explain why nobody heard someone fleeing if he lived right in there. Perhaps he heard Lechmere coming and quickly went home before anyone saw him. Neither witness described hearing anyone fleeing the scene and one of them should have heard something if someone was indeed running away. Also, the very next murder of Annie Chapman happens in a secluded backyard where nobody would be able to interrupt him. After first hearing the scenario around Mary Ann Nichols killing I couldn't get around how it wasn't Lechmere given the circumstances of the murders, but I doubt the real murderer would have voluntarily gone to police in any fashion had they been running around killing people. I suppose it's possible, but I doubt it.
Mary Ann’s wounds were covered. Why would the killer waste time doing this if there’s no one there to catch him?
Interesting that the theory is that he was interviewed by the police at some point.
The Yorkshire ripper, 100 odd years later, was also interviewed (nine times!). His colleagues used to jokingly refer to him as 'the ripper' at work.
I was waiting for this video all day, woo!!
The issue with Lechmere murdering on his way to work can be explained by a murderer who simply struck at the most convenient time with nobody about and he must have observed the Police movements, as well as anyone else. Early morning before sunrise and an excuse to be in that area at the time of the murder also can explain why the murder of Polly Nichols happened at around 03:37-03:45. The excuse being his commute to Pickfords. Stride and Eddowes were weekend murders in a different location and different times of the late night/early morning which means that The Ripper wasn't on his way to work. You can be on your way to anything or any activity, but if you are a serial killer then if conditions are right and you have the urge then they go for it don't they? Lechmere did it in my humble opinion (Nichols). There are glaring facts that if you dig deep enough, then Lechmere becomes highly suspicious.
IDK if you notice, but in the video 44:02 it shows Nathan Kaminski as a suspect, so he at least acknowledges that he could be jack the ripper, and personally he does seem like the most likely suspect, as for the part where he was crazy at that point, it could be because not only the illness got worse but also maybe because he couldn't kill anymore since the last supposedly murder victim was so brutally mutilated, but then again I'm no expert in this kind of stuff.
I know this comment is old, but I will put in my 2 cents on your last comment. I may be wrong, but you seem to be suggesting that he had satisfied his desire to kill with the last victim. That is VERY unlikely. It is well documented that serial killers fantasize first, and eventually are driven to act out those fantasies. However, once they do, they don't just become satisfied. They want to go even further, and elements of what they do often become ritualistic.
Some do have more self control than others, the BTK killer killed 10 people between 71 and 91, then went silent other than occasionally taunting the police and news till be was caught in 2005. Which isn't to say he didn't want to kill anymore, he confessed to making plans and stalking people, but wasn't able to carry any of those plans out. He is a rare example of a more meticulous and controlled killer, which was part of his pathology. He was obsessed with control. Bondage (Bind Torture Kill is what BTK stands for) was a big part of his MO.
The Ripper was not in control. The short time between the killings, the rapid escalation, and risks taken make that clear. Assuming the canonical five were all his victims it paints a picture of someone who murders in a frenzy at first, stabbing wildly. But that isn't enough. Once he has another opportunity he strikes again, and goes further, and further, and further. That isn't someone who is capable of stopping of his own accord. Something made him stop, or he escaped to someplace where he could carry on without it being connected.
@MrAcidGaming very well thought, i do agree on this
I love your channel and I love watching reactions to this specific LEMMINO video, but I do believe you are the first reactor to not get a chuckle from that "Mitochondria: the powerhouse of the cell" joke ha!
My suspect was shown right at the end of the video but never touched on: Carl Feigenbaum. From what I’ve heard he was a German merchant sailor who was in port during the murders and later after the murders stopped in England, he was caught, charged and found guilty in America of a very similar ‘ripper like’ murder
18:29 the only similar thing is that you are cutting up flesh with a knife, which I think might explain why there was so much disagreement among the experts about whether the ripper had anatomical knowledge, as Barrnett would've been skilled at using a knife to cut flesh, but wouldn't have know much about human anatomy.
i watched all three of these in a row. great stuff
awesome reaction and expansion from you on what was a brilliant original video by lemmino, dream team 🙏
Yayyy I was waiting for this upload!!!
Love the videos!
Mate that was bloody brilliant 👍
I love your objective analysis, I'm definitely subscribing!
So fascinating! Frustrates me to no end that we will likely never know for sure.
if anyone is interested, there's a channel name "Jack The Ripper Tour" narrated by Richard Jones (if i'm not wrong, one of those long time Ripperologist), the channel features quite a few locations in London regarding Jack the Ripper and a few other interesting Victorian London stuff.
As much as I would love to be able to one day say I was alive when they finally found out who he was, part of me kinda wants it to stay a mystery forever. THAT is what adds to the allure of the whole case, and while some suspects do fit better than others, I think Lemmino is right when he says it could have been some random guy who was around London for a little bit
Loved watching this. Good set of videos.
‘The Cases That Haunt Us’ has shaped my view not only on who The Ripper was but also the fate of the Zodiac Killer as well.
Long story longer regarding the Zodiac: I don’t believe he killed again after the last “canonical” victim and killed him self after the last letter.
Love the content. Thanks for all the cool learning.
The PowerHouse of the cell might be the only thing I retained from my public education
Giving another name could also be about hiding identity because you have warrants, grudges, or debts (both private and public) floating about. Private loan sharks out for gambling debts or other personal scores or whatever might have been as feared by many as The Ripper.
There is something weirdly plausible about the theory that he came to London for a few months and then just disappeared into the abyss of the new world.
I think there's a strong case to be made against james maybrick, he had a strong motive if the diary is to be believed, was a cotton merchant so would match the description of having a respectable appearance (and george hutchinson's description of the ripper being well off), would gravitate towards holidays to commit the murders as those would be the only times he would be free, his photographs show that he had quite a prominent mustache- another match, and his early death explains why the ripper stopped so abruptly.
the possible refutations of this theory might be- why would a well off cotton merchant be so intimately familiar with the streets and byways of a destitute neighborhood such as East End( I strongly believe the ripper had to be, he managed to escape in a matter of mere minutes on multiple occasions), a cotton merchant would have a hard time explaining blood on his clothes to others, and why did he not kill his wife as well.
P.S- if VTH is reading this, I would love to hear your theories in detail, your discussion in the video left me a bit unsatisfied so I would love to see another video on the subject, my current dissatisfaction notwithstanding I do love your channel and this series as well but I would have loved to see a more elaborate discussion on the topic. love from India!
About the blood, it is a popular theory that Jack strangled his victims before murdering them and would only cut them up afterwards to not get blood on his clothes.
If it has been Maybrick, he also probably didn't kill his wife because that would put all the spotlight on him and he'd become the prime suspect in a heartbeat. Especially if word had gone out that she was cheating. Maybrick would've gotten busted for sure.
@@theazureknight9399 The strangulation would indeed prevent arterial spray, but you have to remember that he is still cutting up his victims pretty badly. There is no real way to cut open an abdomen, take out the intestines and remove a womb fe without getting at least some amount of blood and/or bodily fluids on your hands and arms.
@@stefaanVleeschouwer stripping his clothes would also not seem like an option, since he did these murders in alleyways and courtyards, but it might be possible that he was using a pair of long gloves to hide the bloodstains, but what do I know, I'm no forensic investigator
So quick thought about Barnett possibly being the killer, so he’s a fisher or whatever, and I forget which victim it is but when they said they were “severed from neck to bottom of spine” is exactly how you gut and clean a fish!!! Probably just me thinking this but I instantly connected that especially being a fisher my self I know how to clean and gut a fish.
If you became just a Lemino reaction channel, I would watch until I die
Would run out of content pretty quick though due to Lemminos upload schedule.
VTH love your videos❤️❤️❤️
Interestingly there is a record of a George Hutchinson boarding the RMS Ormuz to Australia in July 1889 (weeks after another murder in the Whitechapel area) and some have used this as further evidence he was the Ripper.
It should be noted however that there is no possible way to know if that individual was the same person.
During this time-periode it was also normal to accuse someone you didn't like, or needed to rid of in order to persuit your own goals. I know of more than one account where a disabled or mentally challenged person was charged with a crime from a family member of theirs to rid of them from the family, even tho they hadn't done anything.
That was normal practice in the late 1800s, meaning you could build a case against practically everyone. It's a part of why they had so many suspects as well. Some of the witnesses (and to be honest, probably also some of the cops) had biases and people they wanted to blame the murders on
That was very interesting, glad to see your take on suspect's and you're educated thoughts on the whole topic.
unless someone invents a time machine and goes back to quietly observe who the killer was, we will never know. I do agree the police either had an idea who the killer was or at least had some kind of contact with the killer whether they suspected him at the time or not
These are so good. Oh my God, they're so good. Lemino is amazing at what he does. Please react to more of his videos. He has several, perhaps his video on D.B. Cooper would be a great one to do next. Just an idea. You're knowledge of the Jack the Ripper case added a lot to this and that's saying a lot because Lemino is thorough. You're awesome, man. Keep it going! I love this channel.
Would love more Lemmino. Don't usually watch reaction videos but I'd love to see your thoughts on the D.B. Cooper video or his series on UFO events.
My theory about the killer is that, considering people that time used syringes to take heroin and morphine, he could have used a substance that injected would paralyse the victims instantly, considering nobody heard anything during the murders, and the killer would have enjoyed the butchering while the victims were still alive. Or a substance that reacted with the alcohol in the victims to paralyse them,considering most were drunk or had alcohol in their system already. As a person that witnessed many pig killings, I can say blood coagulates quite rapidly, and for victims dead for over 30 minutes laying in a pool of blood still, might indicate they were still alive during these killings and died from the blood loss rather than strangulation. We could look at suspects that might have had knowledge of chemistry or access to paralytic drugs. Plus, it's hard for me to believe a serial killer wouldn't enjoy his victims still being alive while doing his work, and he could have thrown the syringes somewhere and police would discard them as heroin syringes used by junkies. It's also possible the killer had his way with words, getting his victims to trust him enough to make some of them believe the paralytic was heroin, not having to do much to force them to be quiet. In the last case I even thought that cry of murder some of them heard was a sexual roleplay where the lady screamed it, but not loud enough, in a playful manner, hinting she trusted the killer enough to get in bed with him and then boom syringe. Something worth looking into.
I don't think it was Barnett, even for the simple reason that any of her acquaintances or neighbors would know him since he was in a relationship with her and was previously a tenant in the same place. Anyone that knew him or knew of him would have named him rather than just say "she was in the company of a man"
21:55 That would make Barnett more fascinating than the Ripper, considering the MJK scene was more gruesome than all the others combined IMO, and is the biggest factor which makes the Ripper case so intriguing to this day
Watching this I said the word "nefarious" about two seconds before you did. LOL.