Every time I visit the NRM, I always make a special detour to say hello to this little engine with a brilliant story, and thank you for featuring this little engine in one of your videos.
Sent for scrap and the scrap man realised its importance and sent it for preservation! It was sent from Hebburn to Burradon Colliery on North Tyneside. From storage at that colliery it went for preservation. A great little piece of railway history and as you say, these were the workhorses that allowed industrial sites to operate. Excellent video. Thanks for sharing :)
@@martyn6792 it’s much nicer in its current state. Rarely do you find examples of locos/rolling stock in true ex service condition that have also been looked after as well as this one has been. Very unique unit in that regard.
I bet the reverser mechanism had a lot of work going back and fore every day and night because an aluminium smelter ran day and night. Another great video from the Curator with a Camera.
I would say that the smaller, often larger in number locomotives are the ones worth preserving more just because of how common they actually were, never mind that only a few people got the see the industrial ones!
No industrial steam stationary or locomotive along with the guys who worked it no need for the big locos. The big ones are the result of the workers working hard and the industrial steam they used in their jobs. These drove innovation. Far more important than any big dumb A4 or that.
@@caledonianrailway1233 i dunno, if only by virtue of it being an odd sight I bet an event at the NRM where every bit of space spare is filled up with an industrial all with someone giving talks, maybe in character, about the life and times of the places they worked and the people who worked them would be quite popular. There's enough out there to cover the steel, aluminium, iron ore, slate, canal, coal, nuclear, oil, defence, chocolate, pharmaceutical, motor, whisky, beer, shipbuilding, china clay, peat, scrap and paper making industries without even straining for very obscure industries that had rail connections that have locos preserved with stories to tell. Even enough out there in those examples to cover every type of traction pretty much steam, diesel(hydraulic, mechanical, electrical) and electric(both battery and overhead preserved from industry) We had the great gathering, maybe time we had the greatest of gatherings to celebrate the most vibrant and interesting aspect of our railway heritage.
The Scottish Industrial Rail Museum at Dunaskin near Ayr only has small industrial locos - for example, six 0-4-0ST locos, including a working fireless loco, (the only functioning one in the UK)and one 0-6-0ST engine - all Andrew Barclays from Kilmarnock alongside varied small industrial diesel locos and various freight stock.
I've always loved the unsung machines, and this is a classic example. Every bit of the engine is testament to the great work it did. Lovely video, of a charming engine.
Fantastic video. Wonderful example of a no-nonsense, workaday little engine that never saw any glory, but just worked, and worked, and worked. It's amazing it's still here. As always, I don't believe any other rail museum holds a candle to the NRM.
We ❤ Industrials! 😍 Big thanks to NRM for holding onto this one. Thanks also to others like Doon Valley, Middleton, Ribble, Tanfield, Foxfield etc for helping to preserve our industrial railway heritage too
thanks for this i always make sure i go to see bauxite when i visit and nearly always take yet another photo of it so its nice to see it featured on you tube
you can tell bauxite no.2 has been through the wringer a few times there are even dents on the peice of metal that goes around the traction rods. but it's nice to see a scuffed engine that is pretty due to all the working scars it's picked up in it's lifetime.
Despite the huge celebrity exhibits, this is one of my favourites. Probably tied with the green Sentinel which used to be near the main entrance. Followed by the Q1.
The story of red loco you asked about can be found by searching for "Festipedia", the (lovingly curated) online font of much knowledge concerning the Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway.
I like the ancient coach sitting behind Bauxite No. 2 - made me wonder if there was a reason for this, like it being a workman's coach or a tool/spares wagon?
Consultation of the Science Museum Catalogue (this includes NRM items) shows it to be an Eastern Counties Railway 3-compartment First Class carriage built in 1851.
If I remember, behind the Prince William diesel there’s a Beatie Well Tank so well hidden I didn’t know what it was until after I visited. Do you plan to bring that into the public eye at some point or will it be sent elsewhere?
The Great Train Robbery 1903 The Iron Horse 1925 The General 1927 Danger Lights 1930 The Hurricane Express (serial) 1934 Oh, Mr. Porter! 1936 Union Pacific 1938 The Ghost Train 1938 Flame Over India 1963 Emperor of the North 1980's And the 100+ episode series of Helen Holmes one-reelers made in the 'teens.
Was driving an industrial locomotive like this considered a good job, as driving went? Where did they get the drivers for this? Did industry train their own drivers, or rely on poaching mainline drivers?
If Bauxite No 2 was really used in the Aluminium industry from the time of her manufacture (1874) she was extraordinarily early. The timeline of Aluminium working in the UK doesn't really allow it. "In 1878, metallurgist James Fern Webster was producing 100 pounds of pure aluminium every week at his Solihull Lodge factory in Warwickshire, England, using a chemical process." You don't need a dedicated engine when you're only producing 100Lb a week. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aluminium Perhaps it moved to aluminium work after "something else"?
I do not know if locomotives where built in the 1870s with a cab. The cab looks somehow like a later addition. I just read somewhere, I do not know its true, that at least in germany, the train designers thought a cab with the windows is a hazard, because the view of the driver is prohibited somehow, so they had for longer time no cabs installed on locomotives. This was also thought for tram cars, the driver standing on the open perron at first (1890s until 1920s) and later designs had a cab and a chair for the driver installed.
I think locomotives generally did have cabs by this time. Metropolitan Railway locomotive 23, for example, had a cab and dates from 1866. It seems like an obvious addition once any real speed is possible, and one that drivers would make strong representations about, as well as a useful method of avoiding slack and coal dust flying off and sticking to coach work. Or did you mean that there is something about this particular cab that looks like it is a later addition?
@@DanielsPolitics1 I am no expert, but somehow the cab looks like a later addition. Something about the style and how the reverse lever is outside the cab...
I have the DORLING KINDERSLEY DK EYEWITNESS GUIDES Book of TRAIN. Discover the story of railways - from the days of steam to the high - speed, sophisticated trains of today. In association with THE NATIONAL RAILWAY MUSEUM.
Hello from the across the pond in the US, I am actually somewhat surprised that the locomotive has not been restored to operation as we have a decent number of small industrial steam locomotives operating on tourist railroads. I could see this getting a second, more relaxed life pulling small tourist trains and doing the occasional switching job. Thank you for preserving this wonderful (and quirky) piece of machinery.
A lot of our preserved railways do use ex-industrial locos. What makes this one special is that it's in the condition in which it left service, which makes it a greater rarity than the ones that are still working.
@@ThePillenwerfer agreed, and I do greatly respect that, here we pretty much all steam locomotives are apart of the National Historic Registry which means no extreme changes can be made to the object and even the smallest of changes have to be approved, if it is to keep it running, then yes. There is an old grist mill off of Ebenezer Rd in my home town of Knoxville, TN and it is almost as it was when it was built. The owners of the property are required BY LAW to maintain the landmark (in this case a building) so that future generations may be able to view it. The same could be applied to this locomotive if it was in the US. Unfortunately, I do not think The UK has a program like this.
@@retr0bits545 As far as I’m aware there’s no national protection scheme for locomotives or anything other than historic buildings. Buildings can be listed from grade I to III with declining levels of protection. The trouble is that it’s quite easy to get permission to mutilate them. It is also far from unknown for owners to neglect them to such a degree that they can claim that they are a public danger and have to be demolished - local authorities are notorious for doing this. Much rarer are Scheduled Monuments. These are things which have to be maintained by law and it is more difficult to get permission to alter them and even protective maintenance has to be carried out in an approved way. We also have Conservation Areas which effects everything in an area and may even restrict what colour you can paint your front door and if you can install a TV aerial or satellite dish. Open areas can be declared Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty which should protect them from alternations and building on. So we do have protection schemes but money talks and the protections aren’t always worth much.
We don't have any industrial locomotives as far back as 1874 pulling any trains. I'm not aware of any rules for preserving locomotives in the US. The FRA does make it hard to operate them since some guys almost killed themselves driving an engine without a working water glass when the crown sheet collapsed.
The dumb buffer as a concept doesn't prevent lock, you can have small dumb buffers that do so. The thing here which prevents buffer lock is a huge area of potential contact, this works just as well with sprung buffers and is why a lot of industrials came with huge buffer heads or were modified to have such by bolting/riveting an extra round plate onto the front of a standard buffer.
Every time I visit the NRM, I always make a special detour to say hello to this little engine with a brilliant story, and thank you for featuring this little engine in one of your videos.
Sent for scrap and the scrap man realised its importance and sent it for preservation!
It was sent from Hebburn to Burradon Colliery on North Tyneside. From storage at that colliery it went for preservation.
A great little piece of railway history and as you say, these were the workhorses that allowed industrial sites to operate.
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing :)
Be nice if they could restore her
@@martyn6792 it’s much nicer in its current state. Rarely do you find examples of locos/rolling stock in true ex service condition that have also been looked after as well as this one has been. Very unique unit in that regard.
@@Aaron-uf3sl small enough to build yourself a working replica in one life time and in your own garage if you set your mind to it.
What a charming little engine.
I bet the reverser mechanism had a lot of work going back and fore every day and night because an aluminium smelter ran day and night.
Another great video from the Curator with a Camera.
I would say that the smaller, often larger in number locomotives are the ones worth preserving more just because of how common they actually were, never mind that only a few people got the see the industrial ones!
True if steam ever returns they will be first
No industrial steam stationary or locomotive along with the guys who worked it no need for the big locos.
The big ones are the result of the workers working hard and the industrial steam they used in their jobs. These drove innovation. Far more important than any big dumb A4 or that.
An a4 would bring more attention and by extension more funding so an express engine does make senes
@@caledonianrailway1233 i dunno, if only by virtue of it being an odd sight I bet an event at the NRM where every bit of space spare is filled up with an industrial all with someone giving talks, maybe in character, about the life and times of the places they worked and the people who worked them would be quite popular. There's enough out there to cover the steel, aluminium, iron ore, slate, canal, coal, nuclear, oil, defence, chocolate, pharmaceutical, motor, whisky, beer, shipbuilding, china clay, peat, scrap and paper making industries without even straining for very obscure industries that had rail connections that have locos preserved with stories to tell. Even enough out there in those examples to cover every type of traction pretty much steam, diesel(hydraulic, mechanical, electrical) and electric(both battery and overhead preserved from industry)
We had the great gathering, maybe time we had the greatest of gatherings to celebrate the most vibrant and interesting aspect of our railway heritage.
The Scottish Industrial Rail Museum at Dunaskin near Ayr only has small industrial locos - for example, six 0-4-0ST locos, including a working fireless loco, (the only functioning one in the UK)and one 0-6-0ST engine - all Andrew Barclays from Kilmarnock alongside varied small industrial diesel locos and various freight stock.
I've always loved the unsung machines, and this is a classic example. Every bit of the engine is testament to the great work it did. Lovely video, of a charming engine.
Fantastic video. Wonderful example of a no-nonsense, workaday little engine that never saw any glory, but just worked, and worked, and worked. It's amazing it's still here. As always, I don't believe any other rail museum holds a candle to the NRM.
That's a beutiful little engine, industrial engines were most definitely the unsung heroes of the railways.
Everyone wants to talk about "sustainability" but no one wants to make something that works day-in day-out for the better part of a century.
Great video about a very interesting and cute loco! The locomotive is a real time capsule. Thank you for showing.
I also have a Hardback Book called The Railway Policeman.
The Story of the Constable on the Track.
We ❤ Industrials! 😍
Big thanks to NRM for holding onto this one. Thanks also to others like Doon Valley, Middleton, Ribble, Tanfield, Foxfield etc for helping to preserve our industrial railway heritage too
The previous Curator with a Camera episode was just an April Fools video, so it’s’ nice to see something serious!
Most of the videos are serious; the April one was light relief
Little strong and tough machine. Love it!!
This was my favourite loco at NRM when we visited last year.
What a wonder of a loco
thanks for this i always make sure i go to see bauxite when i visit and nearly always take yet another photo of it so its nice to see it featured on you tube
you can tell bauxite no.2 has been through the wringer a few times there are even dents on the peice of metal that goes around the traction rods. but it's nice to see a scuffed engine that is pretty due to all the working scars it's picked up in it's lifetime.
Despite the huge celebrity exhibits, this is one of my favourites. Probably tied with the green Sentinel which used to be near the main entrance. Followed by the Q1.
Industrials I do love
Great commentary congratulations from Aotearoa (New Zealand)
What a fun little locomotive! I’d love to see a video on Livingston Thompson next door!
The story of red loco you asked about can be found by searching for "Festipedia", the (lovingly curated) online font of much knowledge concerning the Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway.
Well done. Thank you for sharing.
What a great little engine. Think of the stories she could tell.
Reminds me of the very similar L&Y pug which is running and and often does demonstrations at various societies
I like the ancient coach sitting behind Bauxite No. 2 - made me wonder if there was a reason for this, like it being a workman's coach or a tool/spares wagon?
Nice job with these videos. Would like to see you guys do one on the GNR Stirling Single No. 1.
Entertaining video.
Now that I have seen the locomotive Bauxite no 2 I want to know about the coach on the back.
Consultation of the Science Museum Catalogue (this includes NRM items) shows it to be an Eastern Counties Railway 3-compartment First Class carriage built in 1851.
@@brucebigglesworth9532thank you 👍
Fascinating!
If I remember, behind the Prince William diesel there’s a Beatie Well Tank so well hidden I didn’t know what it was until after I visited. Do you plan to bring that into the public eye at some point or will it be sent elsewhere?
Excellent video
Sounds like a really useful engine!
Amazing job as always lads 👍
I remember that one back in the 1960s in the Science Museum along with the City & South London Mather and Platt electric loco.
3:17 “no thrills i aint kidding no thrills”. Is my new “it is what it is”
It's 'no frills' :)
I Visited This Place Before, So I Might Have Some Experience There.
Well, the loco next to Bauxite is the Ffestiniog Railway's double fairlie Livingston Thompson!!
I REALLY want to see some of the narrow gauge egines ESPECIALLY the Double Fairlane
Railway Movies.
The Titfield Thunderbolt 1952.
The Great Train Robbery 1963.
The Railway Children 1970 & 2000.
Thomas and the Magic Railroad 2000.
The Great Train Robbery 1903
The Iron Horse 1925
The General 1927
Danger Lights 1930
The Hurricane Express (serial) 1934
Oh, Mr. Porter! 1936
Union Pacific 1938
The Ghost Train 1938
Flame Over India 1963
Emperor of the North 1980's
And the 100+ episode series of Helen Holmes one-reelers made in the 'teens.
Was driving an industrial locomotive like this considered a good job, as driving went?
Where did they get the drivers for this? Did industry train their own drivers, or rely on poaching mainline drivers?
never knew Bauxite was an industrial engine
loved it
Can we get one of these about Lode Star
my favourite
If Bauxite No 2 was really used in the Aluminium industry from the time of her manufacture (1874) she was extraordinarily early.
The timeline of Aluminium working in the UK doesn't really allow it.
"In 1878, metallurgist James Fern Webster was producing 100 pounds of pure aluminium every week at his Solihull Lodge factory in Warwickshire, England, using a chemical process."
You don't need a dedicated engine when you're only producing 100Lb a week.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aluminium
Perhaps it moved to aluminium work after "something else"?
I do not know if locomotives where built in the 1870s with a cab. The cab looks somehow like a later addition.
I just read somewhere, I do not know its true, that at least in germany, the train designers thought a cab with the windows is a hazard, because the view of the driver is prohibited somehow, so they had for longer time no cabs installed on locomotives. This was also thought for tram cars, the driver standing on the open perron at first (1890s until 1920s) and later designs had a cab and a chair for the driver installed.
I think locomotives generally did have cabs by this time. Metropolitan Railway locomotive 23, for example, had a cab and dates from 1866. It seems like an obvious addition once any real speed is possible, and one that drivers would make strong representations about, as well as a useful method of avoiding slack and coal dust flying off and sticking to coach work.
Or did you mean that there is something about this particular cab that looks like it is a later addition?
@@DanielsPolitics1 I am no expert, but somehow the cab looks like a later addition. Something about the style and how the reverse lever is outside the cab...
Impossible to say now, I should think.
Great
I hate to say it, but, what the hell: never overlook a little engine.
I have the DORLING KINDERSLEY DK EYEWITNESS GUIDES Book of TRAIN.
Discover the story of railways - from the days of steam to the high - speed, sophisticated trains of today.
In association with THE NATIONAL RAILWAY MUSEUM.
Hello from the across the pond in the US, I am actually somewhat surprised that the locomotive has not been restored to operation as we have a decent number of small industrial steam locomotives operating on tourist railroads. I could see this getting a second, more relaxed life pulling small tourist trains and doing the occasional switching job. Thank you for preserving this wonderful (and quirky) piece of machinery.
A lot of our preserved railways do use ex-industrial locos. What makes this one special is that it's in the condition in which it left service, which makes it a greater rarity than the ones that are still working.
@@ThePillenwerfer agreed, and I do greatly respect that, here we pretty much all steam locomotives are apart of the National Historic Registry which means no extreme changes can be made to the object and even the smallest of changes have to be approved, if it is to keep it running, then yes.
There is an old grist mill off of Ebenezer Rd in my home town of Knoxville, TN and it is almost as it was when it was built. The owners of the property are required BY LAW to maintain the landmark (in this case a building) so that future generations may be able to view it. The same could be applied to this locomotive if it was in the US. Unfortunately, I do not think The UK has a program like this.
@@retr0bits545 As far as I’m aware there’s no national protection scheme for locomotives or anything other than historic buildings.
Buildings can be listed from grade I to III with declining levels of protection. The trouble is that it’s quite easy to get permission to mutilate them. It is also far from unknown for owners to neglect them to such a degree that they can claim that they are a public danger and have to be demolished - local authorities are notorious for doing this.
Much rarer are Scheduled Monuments. These are things which have to be maintained by law and it is more difficult to get permission to alter them and even protective maintenance has to be carried out in an approved way.
We also have Conservation Areas which effects everything in an area and may even restrict what colour you can paint your front door and if you can install a TV aerial or satellite dish.
Open areas can be declared Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty which should protect them from alternations and building on.
So we do have protection schemes but money talks and the protections aren’t always worth much.
We don't have any industrial locomotives as far back as 1874 pulling any trains.
I'm not aware of any rules for preserving locomotives in the US. The FRA does make it hard to operate them since some guys almost killed themselves driving an engine without a working water glass when the crown sheet collapsed.
Please, DON'T ever restore it. The antique finish shows the life it led.
way is she in full forward gear?
#Lioneltrains Bauxite # 2 would make a nice training model for model locomotives. #Bakertilly
Happy easyer
The steam locomotive sound sound in the back ground I think is from this record here: ua-cam.com/video/i7KDFc0ZQSk/v-deo.html
On behalf of Bauxite No 2 ,may I protest at the description "crude"!
Simple, working class,, even basic, but crude, never!
also, dump buffers where made to prevent buffer lock
The dumb buffer as a concept doesn't prevent lock, you can have small dumb buffers that do so. The thing here which prevents buffer lock is a huge area of potential contact, this works just as well with sprung buffers and is why a lot of industrials came with huge buffer heads or were modified to have such by bolting/riveting an extra round plate onto the front of a standard buffer.
Can you look in google S.P or U.P Class MC-1 locomotive’s?????
Shteam 'er up
?
I think that’s the steam equivalent of the old car ‘frap it up’
Only after spending £50,000+ doing a hydrostatic boiler test.
it looks like the hornby smokey joe
My thoughts
Smokey Joe is based on a Caledonian 0-4-0 saddle tank loco of 1885.