I can’t get over how smart, compassionate and really well rounded, Jimmy Carr is. Watching just his comedy , Jimmy comes across as quick-witted, but he super shines in these interviews.
Im from UK and yeah the guy is dead smart and insightful even if his comedy is fart and dick jokes! :D - You find that with most really successful comedians they are really insightful and intelligent - your own Dave Chappelle being one
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Jimmy's comedy, but after listening to him just talking, I think I like him as much or better doing just that! Seems rather well-spoken and thoughtful. Good to know there are still some people like that left in this world...
he's not punching down in this conversation - a lot of his comedy veers in that direction, but this just shows he could do something different if he ever fancied changing his comedy. His cultural hinterland seems a bit bigger than Joe's... but that might Joe just wanting to let him talk!
@ladyj7085 well, I will just speak for myself… Considering that this is the first time that I have seen him in anything but one of his comedy specials, I would think it would be both natural and obvious that this would come as a surprise. Perhaps, to anyone for that matter… However, your tone at the end of your post was both totally unnecessary, and indicative of YOUR personality… One of condescension and arrogance… There was absolutely no need for you to insult anyone on this thread…
Yes because you have the nostalgic feeling that you’ve carried with you and then you go back with that same feeling but through a different lens of experience with the life you’ve lived and it hits different.
@@justinwinningham4892some books are layered as hell to. I reread the Earthsea novels recently, first timr I read them was 30y ago, I thought they were just YA-books but they are deeply philosophical...
Some of these podcasts showcase a huge reminder to everyone of how to have a conversation. I love seeing different people talk with joe, it shows their true personality not just the gossip type things you hear etc. It humanizes a lot of "famous" people and icons, which I think is really important these days, people idolize the wrong people because they got a specific role or gig, some people find out their favorite actor/comedian/late night host is toxic and continue to idolize them, which is a whole issue in itself
THE GENIUS OF QUNITIN TERRANTINO IS ESSENTIALLY TAKING SHIT THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAS DONE AND REDOING IT WITH SHTTY DIALOGUE....DUDE IS ESSENTIALLY THE KANYE WEST OF FILMOGRAPHY....TAKING OTHER PEOPLES SHTTTT AND PUTTING SHTTY WORDS ON TOP OF IT....WHAT DO THE FRENCH CALL A HAMBURGER???? FRAUDULANT.... BTW....DUDE IS A SELECTIVE RCIST....FFF HIS CORNY HACKERY . THEY ONLY TALK, JOKE AND MAKE THESE SKITS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY SAFE THOUGH. EH...IF YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU SAFE WHEN TALKING OR JOKING ABOUT CERTAIN GROUPS, YOU AINT BRAVE OR NONPC...AND YOU PROB SHOULD KEEP YOUR DMMNN MOUTH SHUT BOUT EVERYBODY ELSE.... THERE NEEDS TO BE A TERM FOR COWARDLY SELECTIVELY RCIST AND PREJUDICIAL COMEDIANS AND ENTERTAINERS LIKE RICKY GERVAISE, DAVE CHAPPELLE, SHANE GELLIS, SARA SILVERMAN, LOUIS CK, SETH MCFARLAND, TREY PARKER, MATT STONE, BILL MARR, AND OTHERS OF THEIR ILK....THE TERM IS CHICKEN HAWK COMEDIANS OR ENTERTAINERS...ON THE SURFACE THEY COME OFF AS CHAMPIONS OF FREE SPEECH OR NONPC FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT IN REALITY THEY SELECTIVELY DO JOKES ON CERTAIN GROUPS AND RCES THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH....NONE OF THESE COMEDIANS WOULD EVER DO NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE JOKES ON BLKS, JOULS OR MUSLIMS AS THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL EITHER GET CANCELED OR MURDKED FOR IT. THESE COMEDIANS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE AND STAY WELL WITHIN THEM TO PROFIT OFF THE DENEGRATION OF CERTAIN RCES AND GROUPS AND EXCUSE IT AS COMEDY WHEN IN FACT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS PROPAGANDA AND RCIAL OR GROUP BRANDING....
I had the exact same reaction Jimmy Carr did to "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"-- most of the movie, I was just watching with dread and thinking, "do I really want to see what I know is coming?" And the books thing resonated. I was educated in one thing, but then Y2k, so I go into computers, and am totally self-taught, so I read lots and lots of things I did not understand. So many times I had the experience years or decades later of *information* I had stuffed into my head, but then I had experience, then I was like "oh-- that's what that means, I can use that now". Information became understanding. It's vastly different.
What Jimmy said at the beginning about the spread of books, music and film just perfectly articulated better than I could of myself why I fell out of love with gaming.
I love your comment because you acknowledge they’re your favorite movies, and not the best movies. Could you give us a hint at some of your favorite movies during that time? I ask because some of my favorites were also made during that time.
Platoon, Schindler’s List, Good Will Hunting, The Matrix just to name a few I love. I was an 80s baby so there are a ton from the 70s I have never watched.
I think you are making a mistake though - because he shares your views you suddenly think - "Oh he's ok. He likes old films like me". He's the same guy he always was.
@@robertwilson3866 thx your comment. I really fixed on his appraisal of technical advances having an instant effect on society. Movies is not my thing and I was not at all his fan before.
We are in the absolute worst era of film and it's a damn shame. So many wasted opportunities squandered by corporate greed. It's so hard trying to filter through all the garbage to find that one hidden gem that's usually an indie film but never gets the recognition it deserves.
Because studios want to throw out as many movies that can relying on big casts rather than letting directors spend years making a film perfect - fews directors around that still work like this - tarantino, Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson - il spend years on the right script, the story line, the setting etc
Probably shouldn’t have been but as a kid in the early 2000s I used to watch taxi driver and just really liked the aesthetics, the atmosphere, especially when he’s just calmly driving at night in the rain…didn’t really get the references or adult issues just could tell it was a classic and gets better older I get.
Even if you know that it's an iconic, groundbreaking film, it's still shocking. I used to get a big kick out of getting people to watch it when I was in my 20s, and it never disappointed.
In 1968/69 the "kids with beards" took over Hollywood. We were afforded the luxury of a DECADE of profoundly epic cinema pushing out of LA. As dumb as it sounds - it was like A24 was every studio. Art & Individually driven stories about PEOPLE - actual humans you know, it was the first time any form of Neo-Realism was manifested in American Cinema since the pre-Code era. It was truly amazing. The Last Detail, Chinatown, Cuckoo's, Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Last Picture Show, Easy Rider, 5 Easy Pieces, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND- even Docs like American Boy - man that era was so damn magical. and that was just what type of cinema coming from the states. The amount of respect I have for Jimmy in his passion for cinema is profound - I love this conversation.
Even some of the TV shows. I recently watched an old episode of Kojak out of curiuosity, because I remembered liking it when I was about 5 years old (and probably shouldn't have been watching it). Holy cow. There were elements of 'The Wire' in that thing, and not just because it was about a detective. The tone of the thing... I mean, it's also goofy, but damn.
In the latter part of the 70s there were some big budget flops (Heaven's Gate one of the most notable) and once that happened the studios jumped back in and took the reins. The directors had gotten too powerful (as the studios saw it) and a lot of the studio heads that spurned the New Hollywood moment got fired and suits took over.
One flew over the cuckoo's nest is my favourite movie of all time. I must have seen it 50 times, and it still moves me to tears of laughter and sadness 😂😂😢😢 absolutely flawless performances all round. Milos Forman also directed Amadeus, the people vs Larry Flynt and man on the moon, a brilliant film director ❤❤❤
It's nice to see discussions like this that celebrate art from previous times. I love cinema, and have been watching films from the 1900's - Now and exploring the classics gives you a new appreciation of the art form. It's not just entertainment, the ones that stand the test of time are special, and should be appreciated.
Hey Jimmy - A big fan, FYI Milos Forman was born in Czechoslovakia (current Czechia).. worth knowing his origins since he was such a big influence and a creator in the cinema / movie world..
I love movies and have over 1000 DVD’s but the majority of them are old films. I love watching films from the 30’s-70’s. My Friend Godfrey is one of my all time favorite comedies. William Powell and Carole Lombard are incredible. Their chemistry are wonderful. If you’ve never seen it,watch it,you’ll love it.
Real shame Charles Laughton didn't go on to direct more films because that film didn't well at the Box Office and had basically arrived to the film noir party a little bit late after the genre had peaked in the late 40's and early 50's and by stage of the 50's musicals, westerns and the historical/biblical epics all taken over.
There is a strong pull to the 'classic' the 80s the 90s, through the Reaction shows, who dig up old movies to re-engage them through the eyes of today.
It's interesting. I believe Homer's Illiad is one of the oldest stories that is commonly told. The super hero movies they are referring to are just variations of that story.
Vietnam changed things substantially. I grew up through the 60s watching WWII and Cowboy TV dramas. Donald Sutherland & Jane Fonda kind of fucked their careers for awhile with their anti-Vietnam protesting. Before that some main characters were anti-heroes, then the stories became absolute good vs evil.
Yeah, also the civil and equal rights were a problem and created feminism which is ruined movies now because women are 80% of the consumers since the Internet men just steal stuff online then don’t pay for tickets anymore. So corporations have to gear everything towards women to make their money back these days. From movies to all products to all TV commercials.
@@chaoticprogressI think the people in his show are mostly good. But his interviews aren’t that good I feel. The good thing is that he lets everyone speak their mind without interrupting. but there hardly ever will be a discussion or a different angle to a subject coming from Joe.
Jimmy Carr was one of the fastest guests ever on Top Gear. Funny how Joe is barely hanging on with the change of topics. The man's IQ must be thru the roof.
To be fair, The Stig did apparently say that Jimmy was a terrible driver at speed, who span off every time, apart from the one fluke of the day when he finished with a very fast time.
@@pchurchill Well, he certainly found it, and crossed it so many times that they wrote his name on the leader-board as 'Jimmy Crash'. He ended up placing 5th out of 24 celebrities. In a different season, when he didn't have one miraculously incident-free lap, he placed 40th out of 57.
The production of video games seems to have gone in a similar direction as movies have over the past few decades. When I was a kid during the 90s, I remember having literally hundreds of pirated PS1 games. I had and incredible amount of games of all genres and I had absolutely no clue what most of those games were about, so it was always exciting to unwrap a new one and discover what it was about. A lot of them were really bad, but there were plenty of gems as well. These days, even with the busy schedule of an adult, so few games are being produced that I often find myself having to wait for up to a year before the next release that I have an interest in. Which is kind of convenient since it takes far longer to juggle life and games now, but it does feel strange how much game development has shrunk over time. Some would probably argue that it's simply become more about quality than quantity, but if I had been a teenager right now, I'd definitely prefer the amount of options that I had as a kid. The drastic decrease in "double A" games over the past 15-20 years is particularly noticeable. The market has become over-saturated with indies and a limited selection of triple A games instead.
Yep, I've always been a big gamer but It's been around 18 months since I last bought a game for the PS5. I'm dying to get into something new, but there's absolutely no games out there that are appealing to me.
So true and think how infantile they've become for example age of empires now no longer showing blood or skeletons with cartoonish graphics, the same with total war, more narrow games half developed with little repayablity and extras as dlc that should be fundamental in the game. Remember the days when you had to work something out or beat something in a game to unlock a reward or hidden area? Now you just need to pay for it as a dlc.
Aah yes. Heraclitus. 6:26 No one can enter the same river twice. Why? Because, the 'entering into the river' is a changing event for both the person and the river. Brings a tear to the eye when someone else gets it.
I thought in the 70's film directors were given more freedom to do whatever they wanted eg. Scorcese & Coppola but later on the Accountants took over in Hollywood & it became more about the business
To be fair Michael Cimino didn't help. Given the freedom to make Heavens Gate, instead of responsibly making his film he chose to blow his budget and schedule and caused the near bankruptcy of United Artists
Accountants didn't takeover. It was the fact the Studio system inevitably returned shortly after the Blockbuster was established in the mid 70's with the huge success of Jaws in 75, followed by Rocky in 76, Stars Wars in 77, Richard Donner's Superman in 78, Close Encounters of The Third Kind in 79 and Alien also in 79 all shattered box office records at that time. To add to those the establishment of the rom/com courtesy of Peter Boganovich and Woody Allen which was essentially a modern continuation of 30's and early 40's screwballs. The trememdous success of small budget films such as Halloween, Dawn of the Dead and even Smokey and the Bandit that continue in the 80's. Basically the Studio system completely collapsed in the late 60's along with the Hayes Code after years of financial mismanagent, stupidly high budgets and many big box office flops kind of like what we are seeing today. One of those films been Cleopatra which famously bankrupted 20th Century Fox. That huge collapse along with the newly formed Production Code basically allowed a whole new generation of filmmakers a lot more freedom to express their vision and as result we got game changing films like of Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf, The Graduate, Bonnie & Clyde, 2001: A Space Odessey Midnight Cowboy, Buillet, Cool Hand Luke, Easy Rider, Butch Kassidy and the Sundance Kid and it continued right into the 70's. But the harsh reality is it wasn't never truly going to last that long purely based on the younger generation coming up and what they simply preferred as well the sheer lack of films that parents could take their kids to see. It was essentially a far more mature, extremely political (far more so than today contrary to opinion) and predominantly adult orientated era of Cinema that was responding to things like the first huge wave of counter culture in the West, the massive impact of rock'n roll courtesy of the British Invasion, the assination of JFK, a whole bunch of significant revolutions, and the final years of the Vietnam War.
Well the 70's movies happened because the last bits of the old studio system gave way because movie attendance was dropping in the late 60's and when Easy Rider hit the studio execs realized they didn't know what people actually wanted to see so they gave filmmakers free license for awhile. The "auteur" thing. By the 80's the freedom was limited as the executives started to think they had a better handle on things unfortunately. The 90's was like a smaller less adventurous version of the 70's imo.
@ByWayOfDeception 90s certainly had many good independent films eg Blue Velvet, Kids, Three Colours: Blue, Secrets and Lies, Nil By Mouth etc etc. I think the nineties was a bit like the seventies as far as rebellious film directors go. There were some too notch non blockbuster films around.
Hollywood peaked in the mid 90s, but this began the golden age of TV. Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Dexter "most seasons", etc. TV could take chances on a project that could bankrupt a studio making and promoting a movie. Movies from now on will always be the "international no risk hit" like superhero movies, and TV and streaming will be the chance takers.
Not necessarily. Of course they probably never be as liberated and artisticlly ambitous as in the 70's, but Hollywood is aware that superhero movies fatigue is a thing. The problem is they don't know what the next trend will be. But they know we know they overspend on their projects so I think after these writers and actors strikes they rearrange their model a bit and let more risky (but still commercial) and cheaper movies to be made. They all saw what Barbie did - it was not a cheap movie, but not a superhero one, and didn't cost 300 mil. They saw what Oppenheimer did for 100 mil. Sure this movie is an abberation and there is no chance another biopic of this kind will make almost 1 billion, but they can make money on this. And last but not least they saw what Sound of Freedom did financially. I'm optimistic about the future of cinema. I hope I'm not foolishly optimistc ;)
Great conversation. If someone is interested - Miloš Forman is from Czechoslovakia, not Yugoslavia, I must say that his movies from the 60's before he emigrated are great too but they're maybe more important for the people from that region but you definitely can see his talent in it.
We need movies like we used to have. The ones nowadays suck. I haven't gone out to the movies in years. Why because there's nothing good. They just rework old masterpieces and screw them up. And then they're like oh this is a new masterpiece. Why because the corporation said so
So somehow movies nowadays suck, yet you haven’t watched any of them because you said you haven’t gone to the movies in years. Apparently because there’s “nothing good”. Mind explaining how you’re so certain nothing good comes out anymore if you don’t even bother to check them for yourself?
During my COVID lockdown I watched as many old WWII movies as I could find I watched 1984, Citizen Kane, Clockwork Orange, Gone with the Wind. Old movies are great and comedic movies were funny without swearing
This is a true statement, Joe isn't dumb but he spends alot of time with real surface level knuckledraggers... its must be a touch jarring to all of a sudden have Jimmy on
One subtle way movies have died is with youtube. I remember as a kid always running to reexperience the Spiderman movie whenever it came on to see my favorite parts like final fight scene against Goblin but now with youtube i could just watch my favorite clips and bypass all the nuanced parts that added to the experience and so im not really hype for the payoff of sitting through the whole movie as i was
The rumor I heard was Kesey worked as an orderly in a mental ward. Back when they were experimenting on the patients with L.S.D. And he would take some for himself and work his shift tripping too... And he wrote "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." Has anybody else heard that???
Have you noticed the 70s and right through to the 80s is chockfull of movies that are a scathing critique of BP and the psychiatry industry? The villains are often psychiatrists trying to control and dissect the population in some form or another. Now? Non-existent. Now it's all 'mental health experts are so important, you guys' A movie like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest made today would be declared 'dangerous to mental health', which really means dangerous to BP (figure it out by context, I'm not saying the words because the algorithm erases the post when I do).
@@PeePeeMilkeh, have you ever been inside a mental hospital? There are definitely plenty of people in these places with plenty of things wrong with them
That's the trouble with mental health they are so convincing they can fool doctors Now in today's society they call it care in the community and wonder why folks go on a stabbing rampage ect
As Tarantino once said; "The 70's years were the greatest time of American movies ever" whose highlighted movies are The Exorcist or The Godfather, which belonged to a Hollywood's golden era. Moreover, I'm a fan of Jimmy, Ricky Gervais and him are the kings of the dark humour.
My God the Manson family expectation subversion was satisfying in an odd way. It's like you know what terrible thing really happened, but man do you wish this is what ACTUALLY happened
THE GENIUS OF QUNITIN TERRANTINO IS ESSENTIALLY TAKING SHIT THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAS DONE AND REDOING IT WITH SHTTY DIALOGUE....DUDE IS ESSENTIALLY THE KANYE WEST OF FILMOGRAPHY....TAKING OTHER PEOPLES SHTTTT AND PUTTING SHTTY WORDS ON TOP OF IT....WHAT DO THE FRENCH CALL A HAMBURGER???? FRAUDULANT.... BTW....DUDE IS A SELECTIVE RCIST....FFF HIS CORNY HACKERY . THEY ONLY TALK, JOKE AND MAKE THESE SKITS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY SAFE THOUGH. EH...IF YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU SAFE WHEN TALKING OR JOKING ABOUT CERTAIN GROUPS, YOU AINT BRAVE OR NONPC...AND YOU PROB SHOULD KEEP YOUR DMMNN MOUTH SHUT BOUT EVERYBODY ELSE.... THERE NEEDS TO BE A TERM FOR COWARDLY SELECTIVELY RCIST AND PREJUDICIAL COMEDIANS AND ENTERTAINERS LIKE RICKY GERVAISE, DAVE CHAPPELLE, SHANE GELLIS, SARA SILVERMAN, LOUIS CK, SETH MCFARLAND, TREY PARKER, MATT STONE, BILL MARR, AND OTHERS OF THEIR ILK....THE TERM IS CHICKEN HAWK COMEDIANS OR ENTERTAINERS...ON THE SURFACE THEY COME OFF AS CHAMPIONS OF FREE SPEECH OR NONPC FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT IN REALITY THEY SELECTIVELY DO JOKES ON CERTAIN GROUPS AND RCES THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH....NONE OF THESE COMEDIANS WOULD EVER DO NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE JOKES ON BLKS, JOULS OR MUSLIMS AS THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL EITHER GET CANCELED OR MURDKED FOR IT. THESE COMEDIANS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE AND STAY WELL WITHIN THEM TO PROFIT OFF THE DENEGRATION OF CERTAIN RCES AND GROUPS AND EXCUSE IT AS COMEDY WHEN IN FACT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS PROPAGANDA AND RCIAL OR GROUP BRANDING....
What like tolerance and understanding? Whats so civil avout war anyway? We want to be free to be what we wana be, and we wana get loaded!!! Haha just yanking your chain comrade.
Couldn't agree more. I was learning cinema at the same time growing up "Hollywood" with two movie mad parents. I was like 11 when I'd seen 'Dirty Harry' and was the coolest kid at school...
@@paulf2898 I know. Every time I ever have to say that or hear someone else say it I have a little chuckle in my head. Unfortunately it has also made visiting the dentist somewhat more traumatic for me.😂
@@festo512 Kirk Douglas wanted to play the lead. He better matched the physical description of McMurphy in the book, so yea I agree, but Nicholson still did a great job.
@@fishypaw Kirk Douglas also wouldn't be a good choice. McMurphy was a big guy. That's why he got away with everything. Neither actor matches that description.
@@festo512 Yes, but Douglas looked more like the rough red haired character described in the book. Whereas Nicholson had the charisma but not the look.
1980's Cinema: I love Quintin Tarantino's films and I love 1970's Cinema, however the 1980's were the Greatest Decade for films followed by the 1990's. Let me count the examples where the 1980's had the best films. Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, John Landis, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, David Cronenberg, David Lynch, Early Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy Comedies, Ron Howard, Star Wars Sequels, Indiana Jones, Robert Zemeckis and Back to the Future, Terminator, Aliens, John Hughes, The Bratpack, Oliver Stone, Paul Schrader, Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, Luc Besson, Andrzej Zulawski and the Cinema Du Luc. The 1980's were a great era for films that came out of Hollywood and the Studio system, also France and the UK, and 1000's of Independent films, many from Sundance. And I feel that these films hold up well compared to the 1970's. Late 1970's films I believe hold up well, but not so much the early 70's except Clint Eastwood. Of course films were great in the 1990's, because it was all a rehash of the 70's and 80's. The Exploitation, Grindhouse and Hardcore Pornography of the early 1970's is not something to celebrate. Preserve and watch these films and there's some gems. By the late 1980's it was a rehash of the Early 1970's with Exploitation Horror films but even gorier, darker, sadistic and violent for the VHS audience. In the 1990's, it was a balance of what worked in the 70's and 80's. The early 2000's were a return to Pornography, Exploitation and Torture Gore becoming mainstream. Was this a good thing? It seems every 20 years, we rehash the same things and same tropes, the only difference is technology.
Three movies in the 70s (for me) that changed how hollywood made, budgeted, marketed cinema. Godfather (1972) Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) Star Wars: A New Hope (1977)
I remember when I was a kid and things were big. Now as an adult, they are so much smaller. Perspective and time make you see the world in many different ways.
Plenty of reasons, big one is just getting older. Things meant more to you as a child, remember the dance or the homework project or the party that dominated your life for weeks and was the most important thing ? Then there's the amount of films and TV shows that get made nowadays, every company trying to big up their product so its hard for it to dominate your life
Exclusivity was definitely a thing that made many things more desirable. In this digital world we can get things at a touch of a button lying on our ass not moving, even without paying.
I agree with everyone here - Jimmy is so profoundly thoughtout guy, the last couple of years when he became serious booj author and kinda philosopher have been great! A new Jimmy, fascinating to listen to! Much more eye-opening than many guru/life-coach tyope of guys.
@@Morevids101 I obviously don't, hence my comment. Took the bait on my UA-cam algorithm and just to look at the AI clone Jimmy 4 heads. Hope that helped clear up that confusion for you. Sorry I can't help with your other issues.
Watching movie multiple times is just differend also for knowing what is going to happen and if you Really watch a lot of movies, like usually at the second time you might not immerse as much and watch more so the structure of it. Which in itself can show how genius something is, like with Fincher his camera movements are unparaller how precise he is with.. everything or how you see so much Paul Thomas Andersson's own personality on how he makes movies, Magnolia ofc clearly being the most closest to personal in every way but also you see him maturing thru his filmography. Second time since you know the story, you have way more time to spend on the little things and think about the movie in a deeper sense. Like with Haneke I'm always thinking about the movie days after since he kinda stops the movie at the perfect place and creates perfect amount of confusion and elements of why (they are there but not given to you). Then it makes you come back to it. Another is Lars Von Trier that can take very spesific topics and since he is chronically depressed it's thru that lense so there is a lot of beautifull pain which is why his movies can also be hard to watch. He just knows how to make a beautifull looking movie to contrast what is shown. Then there just is that thing of the perspective being way differend if you are 15 or 30 or whatever age. Some movies I feel like they blew my mind more when I was younger even tho it would be watching it with more surface level eye ofcourse. Like I watches The Matrix everyday For Weeks. Like I was 16 when No Country for Old Men came and it's one of those, but then also at the ending I get the themes as older way better, so in that sense it just is way better afterwards. Then again when I saw The Departed a year before in theaters, no matter if it still holds up for me it was one of the best movie experiences I have had, especially since you Never killed the main-character like that in US movies even if you manage to tie the loose ends of the plot. Especially in a bigger sized movie, especially when DiCaprio is in the lead. It was like actually a complete shock in the theater of did That just happen. No Country did it too but not like that and it's presented way more suddle by the wife's mother blabbering to the mexicans where they are heading to hide. Coen's Burn After Reading did then again do it too but it was a side-character but the suprise came more from it being Brad Pitt being offed like that, saw it also in theaters. It's not even about a gimmics or whatever it becomes afterwards but I appreachiate pushing the envelope in hollywood system. Doing something unexpected. These days studios just don't want to gamble and every movie is a literal gamble, then mix sociopolitical articles pressure into it and everything becomes bland and boring. They wouldn't make a movie like Nightcrawler today because it relies so much on one white man lead character actor and if you don't get the mood from the script, it's a goner before even starting to do it.
I agree The Matrix and the Departed were two movies I’ve watched again and again. For some reason Forrest Gump is another movie I can watch again and again.
I think the studio executives back then were guys who loved movies. Nowadays it seems the executives are businessman who can come from any other industry, they’re only focused on money.
One of those interviews where Joe hit the weed too hard before hand and his guest couldn't wait for him to finish his sentences as opposed to the interviews where Joe keeps interrupting his guest.
Ha! You may be right, but Carr’s brain is lightning fast and his breadth of knowledge remarkable. He’s always a bit like that. I thought in this case that he interrupted Joe a bit too much, forgetting whose show he was on……
@@RenewedRS yeah, you’re right for sure. But let’s also look at that same actors 90s movies- Meet Joe Black, heat, scent of a woman, donny brasco, any given Sunday…I think the biggest takeaway here is that cinema didn’t really reduce itself in quality until the early to mid 00s
"Out of the Blue'' written and directed by Dennis Hopper, staring Dennis Hopper and Linda Manz is a late 70's movie about PUNK, and it will blow you away.
I feel that sentiment in Cinema. Growing up I just remember watching most films with someone like: Jack Nicholson, Gene Hackman & Robin Williams and knowing it would probably be good. The older I’ve got, as they’ve retired or gone cinema hasn’t filled the void. Someone like: Morgan Freeman is the last great man standing.
Kinda...because there weren't as many actors or films being made like today with as many options. Robin Williams done some truly awful movies littered among greats. When someone has star power like those...they can choose their movies
When I watched old movies as a kid, I was fascinated by the old telephones, cars, fashion etc. When my daughter and her friends watch stuff from the '80s or '90s, they just laugh and make fun of the bulky old TVs, big phones, hairstyles etc. Seems now, if something isn't completely current, it has no merit. It's a great shame.
jimmy might wanna read about 'the death clause' in music, in regards to who sells what records, and to whom, it's pretty scary, and makes you wonder what you listen to was ever your opinion at all
I learned Spanish and have read 33 different books with authors from Perú Colombia Cuba Argentina, their are some marvelous authors out there with extraordinary capabilities. I think in the USA modern books are written in such a a basic level of education and are boring bc these authors frim other countries are not limited in form and context. U have reread classics in spanish to and the call of the wild, jules Verne translate beautifully.
I think the point he was making was, yes his films were criticised back then but the backlash he would face in modern culture, with how intense cancel culture is, pales in insignificance
@@kameff_ Eh, idk. I think ppl say the same about South Park yet despite how much more “offensive” they have been in the later seasons compared to the earlier ones, the level of supposed outrage is pretty much the same and from the same ppl. I get that there seems to be an illusion of a society that’s way more sensitive than it used to be. But I believe that it’s really the same percentage of the population it’s always been, there’s just more avenues to make themselves more visiblier.
We read One flew over the cuckoo's nest in school back in 98 and was astounding . We read catcher in the rye,I could not tell you one thing about it,. maybe zit cream. We actually got to watch One flew over the cuckoo's nest movie , I was blown away
Once upon a time in Hollywood really blew me away, seen it with my girlfriend and she didn’t know the real story so she had endless questions afterwards but I had the exact same feeling as jimmy watching it thinking oh god it’s guna happen and then it just goes completely left field and I couldn’t believe it, it was genius
I've watched all of QT's movies & the end of once upon a time genuinely left me speechless - when they walk up the drive & the movie finishes I didn't know how to processing s it.
I feel the test of time. Like if Eminem drops a album I'm jam it my remaining years. But movies are different. I mean I'll watch Ford vs. Ferrari agian. Seen that a few times actually. Or nwa. But ya super hero movies minus Batman are like year book marks almost. Never thought of it like that
I can’t get over how smart, compassionate and really well rounded, Jimmy Carr is. Watching just his comedy , Jimmy comes across as quick-witted, but he super shines in these interviews.
Im from UK and yeah the guy is dead smart and insightful even if his comedy is fart and dick jokes! :D - You find that with most really successful comedians they are really insightful and intelligent - your own Dave Chappelle being one
Norm MacDonald being another.
I couldn't sit through 2 hours of Carrs one liners. But I'm a big fan if him, and his wit.
I realized it watching his interview with Jordan Peterson
He's a sociopath. He says the things he thinks you want to hear without believing any of it.
It's the accent
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Jimmy's comedy, but after listening to him just talking, I think I like him as much or better doing just that! Seems rather well-spoken and thoughtful. Good to know there are still some people like that left in this world...
Cambridge graduate. First honors. 😉
I agree totally! I almost can't believe he's this smart based on his comedy alone. This was great
he's not punching down in this conversation - a lot of his comedy veers in that direction, but this just shows he could do something different if he ever fancied changing his comedy.
His cultural hinterland seems a bit bigger than Joe's... but that might Joe just wanting to let him talk!
@ladyj7085 His comedy is not that great
@ladyj7085 well, I will just speak for myself… Considering that this is the first time that I have seen him in anything but one of his comedy specials, I would think it would be both natural and obvious that this would come as a surprise. Perhaps, to anyone for that matter… However, your tone at the end of your post was both totally unnecessary, and indicative of YOUR personality… One of condescension and arrogance… There was absolutely no need for you to insult anyone on this thread…
Watching a movie or reading a book when your a young buck then revisiting it years later really is a great experience
Yes because you have the nostalgic feeling that you’ve carried with you and then you go back with that same feeling but through a different lens of experience with the life you’ve lived and it hits different.
I don't know. There have been a few times where I re-watched a movie that I really liked when I was a kid and thought it was pretty bad as an adult.
My experience watching the earlier seasons of The Simpsons as a kid and as an adult blew my mind.
had that feeling watching blood diamond again last night after being in and around africa. tia
@@justinwinningham4892some books are layered as hell to.
I reread the Earthsea novels recently, first timr I read them was 30y ago, I thought they were just YA-books but they are deeply philosophical...
Some of these podcasts showcase a huge reminder to everyone of how to have a conversation. I love seeing different people talk with joe, it shows their true personality not just the gossip type things you hear etc. It humanizes a lot of "famous" people and icons, which I think is really important these days, people idolize the wrong people because they got a specific role or gig, some people find out their favorite actor/comedian/late night host is toxic and continue to idolize them, which is a whole issue in itself
Cringe
@@pierer91 harhar I'm on the internet, I must create discourse with people I'll never meet in real life
THE GENIUS OF QUNITIN TERRANTINO IS ESSENTIALLY TAKING SHIT THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAS DONE AND REDOING IT WITH SHTTY DIALOGUE....DUDE IS ESSENTIALLY THE KANYE WEST OF FILMOGRAPHY....TAKING OTHER PEOPLES SHTTTT AND PUTTING SHTTY WORDS ON TOP OF IT....WHAT DO THE FRENCH CALL A HAMBURGER????
FRAUDULANT....
BTW....DUDE IS A SELECTIVE RCIST....FFF HIS CORNY HACKERY .
THEY ONLY TALK, JOKE AND MAKE THESE SKITS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY SAFE THOUGH.
EH...IF YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU SAFE WHEN TALKING OR JOKING ABOUT CERTAIN GROUPS, YOU AINT BRAVE OR NONPC...AND YOU PROB SHOULD KEEP YOUR DMMNN MOUTH SHUT BOUT EVERYBODY ELSE....
THERE NEEDS TO BE A TERM FOR COWARDLY SELECTIVELY RCIST AND PREJUDICIAL COMEDIANS AND ENTERTAINERS LIKE RICKY GERVAISE, DAVE CHAPPELLE, SHANE GELLIS, SARA SILVERMAN, LOUIS CK, SETH MCFARLAND, TREY PARKER, MATT STONE, BILL MARR, AND OTHERS OF THEIR ILK....THE TERM IS CHICKEN HAWK COMEDIANS OR ENTERTAINERS...ON THE SURFACE THEY COME OFF AS CHAMPIONS OF FREE SPEECH OR NONPC FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT IN REALITY THEY SELECTIVELY DO JOKES ON CERTAIN GROUPS AND RCES THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH....NONE OF THESE COMEDIANS WOULD EVER DO NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE JOKES ON BLKS, JOULS OR MUSLIMS AS THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL EITHER GET CANCELED OR MURDKED FOR IT. THESE COMEDIANS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE AND STAY WELL WITHIN THEM TO PROFIT OFF THE DENEGRATION OF CERTAIN RCES AND GROUPS AND EXCUSE IT AS COMEDY WHEN IN FACT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS PROPAGANDA AND RCIAL OR GROUP BRANDING....
@@pierer91if you mean your comment, I agree 👍
I had the exact same reaction Jimmy Carr did to "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"-- most of the movie, I was just watching with dread and thinking, "do I really want to see what I know is coming?"
And the books thing resonated. I was educated in one thing, but then Y2k, so I go into computers, and am totally self-taught, so I read lots and lots of things I did not understand. So many times I had the experience years or decades later of *information* I had stuffed into my head, but then I had experience, then I was like "oh-- that's what that means, I can use that now". Information became understanding. It's vastly different.
What Jimmy said at the beginning about the spread of books, music and film just perfectly articulated better than I could of myself why I fell out of love with gaming.
All my favorite movies came out between the 70s and early 2000’s. Honestly peak cinema in my opinion.
I love your comment because you acknowledge they’re your favorite movies, and not the best movies. Could you give us a hint at some of your favorite movies during that time? I ask because some of my favorites were also made during that time.
Platoon, Schindler’s List, Good Will Hunting, The Matrix just to name a few I love. I was an 80s baby so there are a ton from the 70s I have never watched.
I really admire appreciate and like Jimmy Carr here as I never did in his stand up and panel hosting. What a lucid guy!
Hes a complete sham and he pushed for forced vaccines and criminalised those who refused - dont support this guy
I think you are making a mistake though - because he shares your views you suddenly think - "Oh he's ok. He likes old films like me". He's the same guy he always was.
@@robertwilson3866 thx your comment. I really fixed on his appraisal of technical advances having an instant effect on society.
Movies is not my thing and I was not at all his fan before.
@@Peter-er3cd Fair enough but I just saying you shouldn't just like someone because you agree with them. Because you said you didn't like him before
We are in the absolute worst era of film and it's a damn shame. So many wasted opportunities squandered by corporate greed. It's so hard trying to filter through all the garbage to find that one hidden gem that's usually an indie film but never gets the recognition it deserves.
Because studios want to throw out as many movies that can relying on big casts rather than letting directors spend years making a film perfect - fews directors around that still work like this - tarantino, Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson - il spend years on the right script, the story line, the setting etc
A24 generally allows directors to do their thing.
we totally are youre right
we're in the worst era of all entertainment
What a fantastic observation! I totally agree with the sentiment that the films from the 70’s were the absolute peak.
100%
Probably shouldn’t have been but as a kid in the early 2000s I used to watch taxi driver and just really liked the aesthetics, the atmosphere, especially when he’s just calmly driving at night in the rain…didn’t really get the references or adult issues just could tell it was a classic and gets better older I get.
The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover. That deserves a rewatch. They don’t make ‘em like that anymore.
Drowning by numbers also great
Apocalypse Now is the best film I ever saw
Even if you know that it's an iconic, groundbreaking film, it's still shocking. I used to get a big kick out of getting people to watch it when I was in my 20s, and it never disappointed.
In 1968/69 the "kids with beards" took over Hollywood. We were afforded the luxury of a DECADE of profoundly epic cinema pushing out of LA. As dumb as it sounds - it was like A24 was every studio. Art & Individually driven stories about PEOPLE - actual humans you know, it was the first time any form of Neo-Realism was manifested in American Cinema since the pre-Code era. It was truly amazing.
The Last Detail, Chinatown, Cuckoo's, Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Last Picture Show, Easy Rider, 5 Easy Pieces, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND- even Docs like American Boy - man that era was so damn magical. and that was just what type of cinema coming from the states.
The amount of respect I have for Jimmy in his passion for cinema is profound - I love this conversation.
Even some of the TV shows. I recently watched an old episode of Kojak out of curiuosity, because I remembered liking it when I was about 5 years old (and probably shouldn't have been watching it). Holy cow. There were elements of 'The Wire' in that thing, and not just because it was about a detective. The tone of the thing... I mean, it's also goofy, but damn.
In the latter part of the 70s there were some big budget flops (Heaven's Gate one of the most notable) and once that happened the studios jumped back in and took the reins. The directors had gotten too powerful (as the studios saw it) and a lot of the studio heads that spurned the New Hollywood moment got fired and suits took over.
One flew over the cuckoo's nest is my favourite movie of all time. I must have seen it 50 times, and it still moves me to tears of laughter and sadness 😂😂😢😢 absolutely flawless performances all round. Milos Forman also directed Amadeus, the people vs Larry Flynt and man on the moon, a brilliant film director ❤❤❤
Milos is the fcking man, totaly agree
It's nice to see discussions like this that celebrate art from previous times. I love cinema, and have been watching films from the 1900's - Now and exploring the classics gives you a new appreciation of the art form. It's not just entertainment, the ones that stand the test of time are special, and should be appreciated.
Hey Jimmy - A big fan, FYI Milos Forman was born in Czechoslovakia (current Czechia).. worth knowing his origins since he was such a big influence and a creator in the cinema / movie world..
I was just about to write that ...😉
I love movies and have over 1000 DVD’s but the majority of them are old films. I love watching films from the 30’s-70’s. My Friend Godfrey is one of my all time favorite comedies. William Powell and Carole Lombard are incredible. Their chemistry are wonderful. If you’ve never seen it,watch it,you’ll love it.
Hey, who are you? I just discovered My Man Godfrey a week ago and loved it! I also have a huge DVD collection! Let's talk!
I think Joe’s happy sitting there while Jimmy Carr talks the whole time, not in a disrespectful way, but just enjoying him speaking?
I love discovering an old film that blows my socks off. 'The Night Of The Hunter', just amazing, seek it out!
The French Connection is pretty damn fantastic to rewatch, too.
@@Deguello23 Gene Hackman movies are always good. The Conversation is a good one too.
The Deer Hunter..
Real shame Charles Laughton didn't go on to direct more films because that film didn't well at the Box Office and had basically arrived to the film noir party a little bit late after the genre had peaked in the late 40's and early 50's and by stage of the 50's musicals, westerns and the historical/biblical epics all taken over.
Interesting, but I cannot stop thikinking how this is also a very accurate representation of "What if cocaine and weed had a conversation"
Great observation
I kinda like serious jimmy carr more than i thought i would
There is a strong pull to the 'classic' the 80s the 90s, through the Reaction shows, who dig up old movies to re-engage them through the eyes of today.
5:16. "An audience doesnt know what it wants, they just know what has come before".....Rick Rubin.......;)
He is one of the few comedians who is also very interesting to listen to. I'm gonna listen again to it again. Lot of gems dropped by Jimmy
(just a correction) Miloš Forman was from Czechoslovakia, not Jugoslavia. His former life in Prague was a huge influence in all of his movies.
Correct, but the Communism metaphor still stands.
It's interesting. I believe Homer's Illiad is one of the oldest stories that is commonly told. The super hero movies they are referring to are just variations of that story.
70's cinema is so rich. Couldn't agree more
Mans pulling out Heraclitus references... What a beast. (Never stand in the same river bit)
Vietnam changed things substantially. I grew up through the 60s watching WWII and Cowboy TV dramas. Donald Sutherland & Jane Fonda kind of fucked their careers for awhile with their anti-Vietnam protesting. Before that some main characters were anti-heroes, then the stories became absolute good vs evil.
Yeah, also the civil and equal rights were a problem and created feminism which is ruined movies now because women are 80% of the consumers since the Internet men just steal stuff online then don’t pay for tickets anymore. So corporations have to gear everything towards women to make their money back these days. From movies to all products to all TV commercials.
Protesting political shit always has been a career killer in the US? 😅
The US audience wants spectacle daily, not thoughtful discussion, so that's what most media provides, to get the advertising dollars.@@hansmeyer3210
when books and films hit different archetypes and their interaction right in the bullseye, thats i think what makes them memorable
Joe fancies himself a comic, but I never thought his act was that funny. This is his strength
Is he still wearing his cap back to front?
Agreed but I saw some recently and I think he's getting funnier.
@@maluminse1you must have been really drunk
Yeah, he's not a good comedian. But he's a great podcaster and interviewer.
@@chaoticprogressI think the people in his show are mostly good. But his interviews aren’t that good I feel. The good thing is that he lets everyone speak their mind without interrupting. but there hardly ever will be a discussion or a different angle to a subject coming from Joe.
When Joe has completely zoned out, he does the California "Mmmmm..." thing. Two others I noticed doing it are Pauly Shore and Rob Lowe.
Jimmy Carr needs his own podcast!
Jimmy Carr was one of the fastest guests ever on Top Gear. Funny how Joe is barely hanging on with the change of topics. The man's IQ must be thru the roof.
To be fair, The Stig did apparently say that Jimmy was a terrible driver at speed, who span off every time, apart from the one fluke of the day when he finished with a very fast time.
@@Paddy.C he was finding the limit
@@pchurchill Well, he certainly found it, and crossed it so many times that they wrote his name on the leader-board as 'Jimmy Crash'.
He ended up placing 5th out of 24 celebrities.
In a different season, when he didn't have one miraculously incident-free lap, he placed 40th out of 57.
Jimmy went to Oxford or Cambridge if I recall. Not bad for an Irish man lol I followed my family into construction 👀😂
Jimmy cuts off Joe a lot
Jimmy is an interesting guy.
Another interesting thing about 70's films. Every Best Picture winner in the decade is on the National Film Registry
The production of video games seems to have gone in a similar direction as movies have over the past few decades. When I was a kid during the 90s, I remember having literally hundreds of pirated PS1 games. I had and incredible amount of games of all genres and I had absolutely no clue what most of those games were about, so it was always exciting to unwrap a new one and discover what it was about. A lot of them were really bad, but there were plenty of gems as well.
These days, even with the busy schedule of an adult, so few games are being produced that I often find myself having to wait for up to a year before the next release that I have an interest in. Which is kind of convenient since it takes far longer to juggle life and games now, but it does feel strange how much game development has shrunk over time. Some would probably argue that it's simply become more about quality than quantity, but if I had been a teenager right now, I'd definitely prefer the amount of options that I had as a kid. The drastic decrease in "double A" games over the past 15-20 years is particularly noticeable. The market has become over-saturated with indies and a limited selection of triple A games instead.
Even indie games have mostly become the same. All chasing the same generic audience.
Yep, I've always been a big gamer but It's been around 18 months since I last bought a game for the PS5. I'm dying to get into something new, but there's absolutely no games out there that are appealing to me.
So true and think how infantile they've become for example age of empires now no longer showing blood or skeletons with cartoonish graphics, the same with total war, more narrow games half developed with little repayablity and extras as dlc that should be fundamental in the game. Remember the days when you had to work something out or beat something in a game to unlock a reward or hidden area? Now you just need to pay for it as a dlc.
This video is a breath of fresh air! So inspiring. › "Life is an adventure; embrace every twist and turn."
Miloš Forman was Czech not Yugoslavian. Never seen Coocoo's nest, his Amadeus is a masterpiece tho.
Gotta watch the movie. Nice heads up and interesting to hear Jimmy on the show, great dude!
Aah yes. Heraclitus. 6:26 No one can enter the same river twice. Why? Because, the 'entering into the river' is a changing event for both the person and the river.
Brings a tear to the eye when someone else gets it.
Why is Joe half asleep in this one, Jimmy is holding this up on his own.
It's because he isn't talking about Brock Lesnar.
@@AzureSymbiote😂
Joe barely watches anything anymore.
He has no clue about what Jimmy is talking. 🤭
I thought in the 70's film directors were given more freedom to do whatever they wanted eg. Scorcese & Coppola but later on the Accountants took over in Hollywood & it became more about the business
To be fair Michael Cimino didn't help. Given the freedom to make Heavens Gate, instead of responsibly making his film he chose to blow his budget and schedule and caused the near bankruptcy of United Artists
Accountants didn't takeover. It was the fact the Studio system inevitably returned shortly after the Blockbuster was established in the mid 70's with the huge success of Jaws in 75, followed by Rocky in 76, Stars Wars in 77, Richard Donner's Superman in 78, Close Encounters of The Third Kind in 79 and Alien also in 79 all shattered box office records at that time. To add to those the establishment of the rom/com courtesy of Peter Boganovich and Woody Allen which was essentially a modern continuation of 30's and early 40's screwballs. The trememdous success of small budget films such as Halloween, Dawn of the Dead and even Smokey and the Bandit that continue in the 80's.
Basically the Studio system completely collapsed in the late 60's along with the Hayes Code after years of financial mismanagent, stupidly high budgets and many big box office flops kind of like what we are seeing today. One of those films been Cleopatra which famously bankrupted 20th Century Fox. That huge collapse along with the newly formed Production Code basically allowed a whole new generation of filmmakers a lot more freedom to express their vision and as result we got game changing films like of Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf, The Graduate, Bonnie & Clyde, 2001: A Space Odessey Midnight Cowboy, Buillet, Cool Hand Luke, Easy Rider, Butch Kassidy and the Sundance Kid and it continued right into the 70's. But the harsh reality is it wasn't never truly going to last that long purely based on the younger generation coming up and what they simply preferred as well the sheer lack of films that parents could take their kids to see. It was essentially a far more mature, extremely political (far more so than today contrary to opinion) and predominantly adult orientated era of Cinema that was responding to things like the first huge wave of counter culture in the West, the massive impact of rock'n roll courtesy of the British Invasion, the assination of JFK, a whole bunch of significant revolutions, and the final years of the Vietnam War.
Well the 70's movies happened because the last bits of the old studio system gave way because movie attendance was dropping in the late 60's and when Easy Rider hit the studio execs realized they didn't know what people actually wanted to see so they gave filmmakers free license for awhile. The "auteur" thing. By the 80's the freedom was limited as the executives started to think they had a better handle on things unfortunately. The 90's was like a smaller less adventurous version of the 70's imo.
That’s a plausible explanation. I think the political atmosphere of the wool basically being pulled from people’s eyes also had an effect.
@@jujutrini8412 it's not my explanation. It's from Easy Riders, Raging Bulls by Peter Biskind.
@ByWayOfDeception 90s certainly had many good independent films eg Blue Velvet, Kids, Three Colours: Blue, Secrets and Lies, Nil By Mouth etc etc. I think the nineties was a bit like the seventies as far as rebellious film directors go. There were some too notch non blockbuster films around.
@@honuman39 Oh sorry. It’s been decades since I last saw that movie or read anything about it. 😂
The 90's were the greatest decade for movies.
Hollywood peaked in the mid 90s, but this began the golden age of TV. Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Dexter "most seasons", etc. TV could take chances on a project that could bankrupt a studio making and promoting a movie. Movies from now on will always be the "international no risk hit" like superhero movies, and TV and streaming will be the chance takers.
Not necessarily. Of course they probably never be as liberated and artisticlly ambitous as in the 70's, but Hollywood is aware that superhero movies fatigue is a thing. The problem is they don't know what the next trend will be. But they know we know they overspend on their projects so I think after these writers and actors strikes they rearrange their model a bit and let more risky (but still commercial) and cheaper movies to be made. They all saw what Barbie did - it was not a cheap movie, but not a superhero one, and didn't cost 300 mil. They saw what Oppenheimer did for 100 mil. Sure this movie is an abberation and there is no chance another biopic of this kind will make almost 1 billion, but they can make money on this. And last but not least they saw what Sound of Freedom did financially. I'm optimistic about the future of cinema. I hope I'm not foolishly optimistc ;)
Ya that is true. Tv shows have improved immensely. I also prefer tv shows over movies because if you find a brilliant one it lasts years not hours
Great conversation. If someone is interested - Miloš Forman is from Czechoslovakia, not Yugoslavia, I must say that his movies from the 60's before he emigrated are great too but they're maybe more important for the people from that region but you definitely can see his talent in it.
We need movies like we used to have. The ones nowadays suck. I haven't gone out to the movies in years. Why because there's nothing good. They just rework old masterpieces and screw them up. And then they're like oh this is a new masterpiece. Why because the corporation said so
Last movie i saw in theatres was the original avengers. Such a crock of sheit that i never went back
There are still some great indie movies that pop up in cinemas, if you want great movies again. You gotta support them and go and see them.
Seems like type run out of ideas just like music
So somehow movies nowadays suck, yet you haven’t watched any of them because you said you haven’t gone to the movies in years. Apparently because there’s “nothing good”. Mind explaining how you’re so certain nothing good comes out anymore if you don’t even bother to check them for yourself?
There's loads of new movies out there that's amazing... You were younger.
During my COVID lockdown I watched as many old WWII movies as I could find
I watched 1984, Citizen Kane, Clockwork Orange, Gone with the Wind. Old movies are great and comedic movies were funny without swearing
joe is like whoa jim is way smarter than me so ill pretend to be smart and agree with everything he says
I've heard that before and know what it means... I just can't remember. Lol.
Jimmy is classically educated. It makes a difference.
This is a true statement, Joe isn't dumb but he spends alot of time with real surface level knuckledraggers... its must be a touch jarring to all of a sudden have Jimmy on
Jimmy is so insightful it explains how he comes up with his jokes! Lol 9/11 and one direction always gets me laughing
I feel like Hollywood peaked creatively in the 90’s, but I’m 41 so maybe that’s impacting my perspective.
You typed 80s wrong ;)
@@PeterJPickles lol
I'll tell you one thing, your open mindedness is appreciated. Let's hope Hollywood can come back to life
American films in the 80-90's were great, now not so much...
I’m 30 and I agree with you
One subtle way movies have died is with youtube. I remember as a kid always running to reexperience the Spiderman movie whenever it came on to see my favorite parts like final fight scene against Goblin but now with youtube i could just watch my favorite clips and bypass all the nuanced parts that added to the experience and so im not really hype for the payoff of sitting through the whole movie as i was
I am surprised that movie makers never use the Blade runner 2049 ...you know little adverts that promote the movie but are not in the movie.
The rumor I heard was Kesey worked as an orderly in a mental ward. Back when they were experimenting on the patients with L.S.D. And he would take some for himself and work his shift tripping too... And he wrote "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." Has anybody else heard that???
That’s true and he also said that he went there a most the people; nothing was wrong with them.
Have you noticed the 70s and right through to the 80s is chockfull of movies that are a scathing critique of BP and the psychiatry industry? The villains are often psychiatrists trying to control and dissect the population in some form or another.
Now? Non-existent. Now it's all 'mental health experts are so important, you guys' A movie like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest made today would be declared 'dangerous to mental health', which really means dangerous to BP (figure it out by context, I'm not saying the words because the algorithm erases the post when I do).
@@PeePeeMilkeh, have you ever been inside a mental hospital? There are definitely plenty of people in these places with plenty of things wrong with them
Read Tom Wolfe - The electric Kool aid acid test.
That's the trouble with mental health they are so convincing they can fool doctors
Now in today's society they call it care in the community and wonder why folks go on a stabbing rampage ect
3:40 like in fight club when he talks about single serving products and friends
Jimmy's brain is moving much faster than Joe's here. It's like a pothead talking with a coked up dude
As Tarantino once said; "The 70's years were the greatest time of American movies ever" whose highlighted movies are The Exorcist or The Godfather, which belonged to a Hollywood's golden era. Moreover, I'm a fan of Jimmy, Ricky Gervais and him are the kings of the dark humour.
100% positive Jimmy wouldn't want his humour compared to Gervais. American admiration for Ricky Gervais is purely American phenomenon.
The 80' movies were great also if not better than the 70's imo
My God the Manson family expectation subversion was satisfying in an odd way. It's like you know what terrible thing really happened, but man do you wish this is what ACTUALLY happened
THE GENIUS OF QUNITIN TERRANTINO IS ESSENTIALLY TAKING SHIT THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAS DONE AND REDOING IT WITH SHTTY DIALOGUE....DUDE IS ESSENTIALLY THE KANYE WEST OF FILMOGRAPHY....TAKING OTHER PEOPLES SHTTTT AND PUTTING SHTTY WORDS ON TOP OF IT....WHAT DO THE FRENCH CALL A HAMBURGER????
FRAUDULANT....
BTW....DUDE IS A SELECTIVE RCIST....FFF HIS CORNY HACKERY .
THEY ONLY TALK, JOKE AND MAKE THESE SKITS WHEN THEY KNOW THEY SAFE THOUGH.
EH...IF YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU SAFE WHEN TALKING OR JOKING ABOUT CERTAIN GROUPS, YOU AINT BRAVE OR NONPC...AND YOU PROB SHOULD KEEP YOUR DMMNN MOUTH SHUT BOUT EVERYBODY ELSE....
THERE NEEDS TO BE A TERM FOR COWARDLY SELECTIVELY RCIST AND PREJUDICIAL COMEDIANS AND ENTERTAINERS LIKE RICKY GERVAISE, DAVE CHAPPELLE, SHANE GELLIS, SARA SILVERMAN, LOUIS CK, SETH MCFARLAND, TREY PARKER, MATT STONE, BILL MARR, AND OTHERS OF THEIR ILK....THE TERM IS CHICKEN HAWK COMEDIANS OR ENTERTAINERS...ON THE SURFACE THEY COME OFF AS CHAMPIONS OF FREE SPEECH OR NONPC FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT IN REALITY THEY SELECTIVELY DO JOKES ON CERTAIN GROUPS AND RCES THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH....NONE OF THESE COMEDIANS WOULD EVER DO NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE JOKES ON BLKS, JOULS OR MUSLIMS AS THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL EITHER GET CANCELED OR MURDKED FOR IT. THESE COMEDIANS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE AND STAY WELL WITHIN THEM TO PROFIT OFF THE DENEGRATION OF CERTAIN RCES AND GROUPS AND EXCUSE IT AS COMEDY WHEN IN FACT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS PROPAGANDA AND RCIAL OR GROUP BRANDING....
Yes it was altho I sensed there was an anti hippie thread in the movie before that.
@@tssss900 well the hippie movement made commie talk more acceptable and that's terrible for society lol
What like tolerance and understanding? Whats so civil avout war anyway? We want to be free to be what we wana be, and we wana get loaded!!! Haha just yanking your chain comrade.
Tarantino movies have become 2 plus hours of babble then the ending.
Couldn't agree more. I was learning cinema at the same time growing up "Hollywood" with two movie mad parents. I was like 11 when I'd seen 'Dirty Harry' and was the coolest kid at school...
Marathon Man is one of my favourites.
"is it safe?" 😂
@@paulf2898 I know. Every time I ever have to say that or hear someone else say it I have a little chuckle in my head. Unfortunately it has also made visiting the dentist somewhat more traumatic for me.😂
Joe Rogan getting his mind blown again…also me too! Great intellectual commentary on our social-media-pop-culture, Jimmy Carr
"One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest" ... IS a great film, but the book is even better. I highly recommend both.
The movie is a watered down version of the book. Nicholson was miscast
@@festo512 Kirk Douglas wanted to play the lead. He better matched the physical description of McMurphy in the book, so yea I agree, but Nicholson still did a great job.
@@fishypaw Kirk Douglas also wouldn't be a good choice. McMurphy was a big guy. That's why he got away with everything. Neither actor matches that description.
@@festo512 Yes, but Douglas looked more like the rough red haired character described in the book. Whereas Nicholson had the charisma but not the look.
@@fishypaw I suggest you actually read the book
I probably should have watched the whole damn interview, all these Carr and Rogan clips are fascinating.
The Eagle Has Landed, a great 70's war film!
1980's Cinema: I love Quintin Tarantino's films and I love 1970's Cinema, however the 1980's were the Greatest Decade for films followed by the 1990's. Let me count the examples where the 1980's had the best films. Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, John Landis, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, David Cronenberg, David Lynch, Early Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy Comedies, Ron Howard, Star Wars Sequels, Indiana Jones, Robert Zemeckis and Back to the Future, Terminator, Aliens, John Hughes, The Bratpack, Oliver Stone, Paul Schrader, Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, Luc Besson, Andrzej Zulawski and the Cinema Du Luc. The 1980's were a great era for films that came out of Hollywood and the Studio system, also France and the UK, and 1000's of Independent films, many from Sundance. And I feel that these films hold up well compared to the 1970's. Late 1970's films I believe hold up well, but not so much the early 70's except Clint Eastwood. Of course films were great in the 1990's, because it was all a rehash of the 70's and 80's. The Exploitation, Grindhouse and Hardcore Pornography of the early 1970's is not something to celebrate. Preserve and watch these films and there's some gems. By the late 1980's it was a rehash of the Early 1970's with Exploitation Horror films but even gorier, darker, sadistic and violent for the VHS audience. In the 1990's, it was a balance of what worked in the 70's and 80's. The early 2000's were a return to Pornography, Exploitation and Torture Gore becoming mainstream. Was this a good thing? It seems every 20 years, we rehash the same things and same tropes, the only difference is technology.
Jimmy is great he is a very different comic but so creative and able to rip apart so many different subjects because he has studied them in depth
Three movies in the 70s (for me) that changed how hollywood made, budgeted, marketed cinema.
Godfather (1972)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
Star Wars: A New Hope (1977)
JAWS
I remember when I was a kid and things were big. Now as an adult, they are so much smaller. Perspective and time make you see the world in many different ways.
Plenty of reasons, big one is just getting older. Things meant more to you as a child, remember the dance or the homework project or the party that dominated your life for weeks and was the most important thing ?
Then there's the amount of films and TV shows that get made nowadays, every company trying to big up their product so its hard for it to dominate your life
Exclusivity was definitely a thing that made many things more desirable. In this digital world we can get things at a touch of a button lying on our ass not moving, even without paying.
I agree with everyone here - Jimmy is so profoundly thoughtout guy, the last couple of years when he became serious booj author and kinda philosopher have been great!
A new Jimmy, fascinating to listen to!
Much more eye-opening than many guru/life-coach tyope of guys.
The weed has slowed Joe down so much the past couple of years.
More like he just started hearing his own voice and falls to sleep like everyone else unfortunate enough to listen to him
@@apocalypticdaze2139don't get why your listening to him then?
@@Morevids101 I obviously don't, hence my comment. Took the bait on my UA-cam algorithm and just to look at the AI clone Jimmy 4 heads.
Hope that helped clear up that confusion for you. Sorry I can't help with your other issues.
@@apocalypticdaze2139edgy
Watching movie multiple times is just differend also for knowing what is going to happen and if you Really watch a lot of movies, like usually at the second time you might not immerse as much and watch more so the structure of it. Which in itself can show how genius something is, like with Fincher his camera movements are unparaller how precise he is with.. everything or how you see so much Paul Thomas Andersson's own personality on how he makes movies, Magnolia ofc clearly being the most closest to personal in every way but also you see him maturing thru his filmography. Second time since you know the story, you have way more time to spend on the little things and think about the movie in a deeper sense. Like with Haneke I'm always thinking about the movie days after since he kinda stops the movie at the perfect place and creates perfect amount of confusion and elements of why (they are there but not given to you). Then it makes you come back to it. Another is Lars Von Trier that can take very spesific topics and since he is chronically depressed it's thru that lense so there is a lot of beautifull pain which is why his movies can also be hard to watch. He just knows how to make a beautifull looking movie to contrast what is shown.
Then there just is that thing of the perspective being way differend if you are 15 or 30 or whatever age. Some movies I feel like they blew my mind more when I was younger even tho it would be watching it with more surface level eye ofcourse. Like I watches The Matrix everyday For Weeks. Like I was 16 when No Country for Old Men came and it's one of those, but then also at the ending I get the themes as older way better, so in that sense it just is way better afterwards. Then again when I saw The Departed a year before in theaters, no matter if it still holds up for me it was one of the best movie experiences I have had, especially since you Never killed the main-character like that in US movies even if you manage to tie the loose ends of the plot. Especially in a bigger sized movie, especially when DiCaprio is in the lead. It was like actually a complete shock in the theater of did That just happen. No Country did it too but not like that and it's presented way more suddle by the wife's mother blabbering to the mexicans where they are heading to hide. Coen's Burn After Reading did then again do it too but it was a side-character but the suprise came more from it being Brad Pitt being offed like that, saw it also in theaters. It's not even about a gimmics or whatever it becomes afterwards but I appreachiate pushing the envelope in hollywood system. Doing something unexpected. These days studios just don't want to gamble and every movie is a literal gamble, then mix sociopolitical articles pressure into it and everything becomes bland and boring. They wouldn't make a movie like Nightcrawler today because it relies so much on one white man lead character actor and if you don't get the mood from the script, it's a goner before even starting to do it.
I agree The Matrix and the Departed were two movies I’ve watched again and again. For some reason Forrest Gump is another movie I can watch again and again.
I think the studio executives back then were guys who loved movies. Nowadays it seems the executives are businessman who can come from any other industry, they’re only focused on money.
One of those interviews where Joe hit the weed too hard before hand and his guest couldn't wait for him to finish his sentences as opposed to the interviews where Joe keeps interrupting his guest.
Ha! You may be right, but Carr’s brain is lightning fast and his breadth of knowledge remarkable. He’s always a bit like that. I thought in this case that he interrupted Joe a bit too much, forgetting whose show he was on……
Three Days of the Condor & Parallax View!!!
Day of the jackal ,the odessa file,marathon man,
One flew east one flew west one flew over the cuckoo's nest.... My favourite book film combination.
80s and 90s cinema was just as great honestly, we had some fantastic movies coming out, thinking in particular Jurassic Park and Predator ❤
Nothing like Serpico, Godfather, Dog Day Afternoon and that's just 1 actor's 70s films
@@RenewedRS yeah, you’re right for sure. But let’s also look at that same actors 90s movies- Meet Joe Black, heat, scent of a woman, donny brasco, any given Sunday…I think the biggest takeaway here is that cinema didn’t really reduce itself in quality until the early to mid 00s
Two legends right here. Both Joe and Jimmy are uncancelable.
Give me that thing of "new movies, old songs" - jimmy carr
"Out of the Blue'' written and directed by Dennis Hopper, staring Dennis Hopper and Linda Manz is a late 70's movie about PUNK, and it will blow you away.
I feel that sentiment in Cinema. Growing up I just remember watching most films with someone like: Jack Nicholson, Gene Hackman & Robin Williams and knowing it would probably be good. The older I’ve got, as they’ve retired or gone cinema hasn’t filled the void. Someone like: Morgan Freeman is the last great man standing.
Michael Caine, Robert De Niro, Al Pacino just to name a few other 'great men'
Kinda...because there weren't as many actors or films being made like today with as many options.
Robin Williams done some truly awful movies littered among greats.
When someone has star power like those...they can choose their movies
Cinema Paradiso is one of the best films ever created
The TV show that changed everything forever was Twin Peaks
How so?
Twin Peaks was soooo good, until it wasn't 😮
@mizzmia4407 Until it was again!
It was TV made by one of the best film directors ever. Not for everyone but an instant cult classic.
Some of the greatest TV ever made .
When I watched old movies as a kid, I was fascinated by the old telephones, cars, fashion etc.
When my daughter and her friends watch stuff from the '80s or '90s, they just laugh and make fun of the bulky old TVs, big phones, hairstyles etc.
Seems now, if something isn't completely current, it has no merit.
It's a great shame.
Milos Forman was checkoslovaquian. He also made ´´Amadeus´´
Jesus Jimmy. My boy is wicked smart.
I wish I had something to add. Thank you gentlemen!
Glad jimmy was there to carry this interview. Love rogan, but he's such a drag in this episode
Jimmy Carr completely carried this show. Joe didn't contribute a lot more than "right, yes mhmmm"
To be fair it would be hard to keep up with Jimmy carpet bombing you with facts and stories 😅
Jimmy did interrupt several times.
Carr is a blabber mouth
jimmy might wanna read about 'the death clause' in music, in regards to who sells what records, and to whom, it's pretty scary, and makes you wonder what you listen to was ever your opinion at all
I search memorable tik toks all the time. “Daddy chill” or “Bobby lee Theo Von”
Milos Forman is from former Czechosloavkia.
Joe: You know I'm a bit of a comedian myself...
I learned Spanish and have read 33 different books with authors from Perú Colombia Cuba Argentina, their are some marvelous authors out there with extraordinary capabilities. I think in the USA modern books are written in such a a basic level of education and are boring bc these authors frim other countries are not limited in form and context. U have reread classics in spanish to and the call of the wild, jules Verne translate beautifully.
I just read cat in the hat
Joe sounded lost during a lot of that 😆. Like when my wife talks and I just nod my head along with it....
Joe forgets that Quentin’s movies were actually pretty criticized for the hyper-violence, among other things, when they first came out…
I think the point he was making was, yes his films were criticised back then but the backlash he would face in modern culture, with how intense cancel culture is, pales in insignificance
@@kameff_
Eh, idk. I think ppl say the same about South Park yet despite how much more “offensive” they have been in the later seasons compared to the earlier ones, the level of supposed outrage is pretty much the same and from the same ppl. I get that there seems to be an illusion of a society that’s way more sensitive than it used to be. But I believe that it’s really the same percentage of the population it’s always been, there’s just more avenues to make themselves more visiblier.
@@Pinko_Band Yeah, you make a very good point. Social media provides a platform for the loudest to scream even louder.
We read One flew over the cuckoo's nest in school back in 98 and was astounding . We read catcher in the rye,I could not tell you one thing about it,. maybe zit cream. We actually got to watch One flew over the cuckoo's nest movie , I was blown away
Once upon a time in Hollywood really blew me away, seen it with my girlfriend and she didn’t know the real story so she had endless questions afterwards but I had the exact same feeling as jimmy watching it thinking oh god it’s guna happen and then it just goes completely left field and I couldn’t believe it, it was genius
I've watched all of QT's movies & the end of once upon a time genuinely left me speechless - when they walk up the drive & the movie finishes I didn't know how to processing s it.
I feel the test of time. Like if Eminem drops a album I'm jam it my remaining years. But movies are different. I mean I'll watch Ford vs. Ferrari agian. Seen that a few times actually. Or nwa. But ya super hero movies minus Batman are like year book marks almost. Never thought of it like that
Its 1:40am. Monday morning. I see Jimmy Carr on a Joe Rogan podcast. Didnt hear a word he said. Just kept trying to wake up.
Update, listened to the later half. Putting my first like down on a Rogan video.
Jimmys so insightful.
Ya choices are slim to none
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Hookers and cocaine.