The thing is that in many versions Shockwave ISN'T loyal to Megatron, he's loyal to science and "logically" his brand of experimentation would NEVER be allowed to happen under the Autobots nor is going solo a viable option in most cases because then resource acquisition becomes an issue etc. Then we get onto the idea of potentially replacing Megatron with someone else and in those cases it's impossible to be sure his experiments won't be impacted. Megatron is simply the best means to Shockwaves ends, no more and no less. Of course Megatron knows this but Shockwave is so good at what he does (and in most versions doesn't really have an interest in just taking leadership for himself) that he's worth the risk. It's a use/use situation.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if he says “this was my plan all along” for every single event that’s ever happened in the history of transformers. He kinda already has but then he’ll do it again just to say “this was my REAL master plan” just to have another 5 more for some ultimate scheme.
We're going back in time to the beginning of creation to replace Satan. That's right. We're going back in time to the beginning of creation to replace Satan.
Fun fact: In Animated, Blur wasn't just crushed into a cube. See, that was one of the continuities where dead bots loose their color. Not only was Cube Blur still blue, but the last shot of him showed that his Spark was still active! He was still ALIVE when they chucked him down the trash shoot!
I believe he was shown to be revived in a comic, but in some interviews the writers said that even if the comic was canon he wouldn't have returned to the cartoon.
Fun fact about Animated Shockwave their was a deleted scene in which Beachcomer overheard him trying to talk to Megatron,but this interaction was like a hippie and didn't connect the dots in time so Shockwave turned into a tank and blew him to pieces with his parts turning gray
dang, that scene of him making Optimus lose his mind is by far the most evil he's done. I believe that even though he died, it looks like he won that battle; Truly something that Satan would've done
The idea of Shockwave being responsible for the Black Death in Bayverse is actually really interesting to me. A horrid thought, I know, but it's still an interesting idea in my opinion. I never noticed that painting before.
Any Resident Evil fans would immediately know about how that went as whenever a virus unknowingly spreads to an entire city, it’d be Raccoon City, Sheena Island, and other zombie outbreaks all over again minus the zombies and other Bioweapons.
Every five seconds Shockwave is just like "Lol I'm going to kill the Decepticons too" and only sometimes do they destroy him for it. How do they EVER trust him to not betray him? I'd sooner trust Starscream
In many versions it's more to do with him being downright TERRIFYING to basically everything with enough of a brain to be scared so even if they tried to do anything about him none of them want to be the first to try. Even Megatron only takes the risk because Shockwave is so effective that his usefulness as a tool makes worth keeping around because it means Megatron can keep an eye on him at the same time. And as long as Shockwave is allowed to do his experiments he'll "mostly" leave *allies* alone.
I love that the list is SUPER short but also full of hilarious shit such as him seemingly having a random love of Cows specifically...which yes is technically still headcanon for now and based only on the most recent show but we've seen headcanon ascend more than once in Transformers before.
What he lacks in compassion for the sick, respect for cybertronian decency, and ANY verifiable formal training in medicine, Shockwave more than makes up for with a bottomless supply of unethical upgrades and a cold enjoyment of wielding them onto exposed steel!
I now both want to read the Skybound comics, and am absolutely TERRIFIED to do so knowing that I unknowingly was correct again about something I didn't know. You see, on several Discord Servers I kept joking that the next Shockwave interpretation should have him show little emotion except one, which is absolute giddiness to commit war crimes.
Optimus stored the Matrix data in his head in the G1 Marvel comics. It was this that he was after, but Optimus transferred it to Spike, who then used it to dismantle and rebuild Jetfire.
Just to touch on Shockwave going mad and hanging up Cyclonus' dead body, he was kinda going through an existential crisis at the time. See, Cyclonus (who was from the future) had let slip that he and Scourge had killed Shockwave in their past (his future). Shockwave murdered him in kind, but had a logic-induced breakdown due to the whole timey wimey nonsense. It took Ravage convincing him to chuck the body into the temporal paradox storm that was destroying reality that he regained his senses (and coincidentally fixed the last temporal anachronisms that were the cause of the time storm, changing future events in the process). Man, I miss the Transformers UK comics...
Also another thing in transformers prime one of the first things Megatron tells Shockwave when he sees the predatcon is that it warms hes spark to see him tampering with creation again.
12:45 why I'm never gonna get that picture out of my head. It's stuck there for eternity. I'm gonna be dreaming it's gonna be an awesome dream and then all of a sudden, Optimus prime cow sucking thing
the thing about skybound shockwave is rather than focus on making him a detached, logical schemer, they completely renvisioned him as a sadistic mad scientist. It's a very different take but extremely good, especially wqhen coupled when him being the defacto ruler of cybertron for millenia.
Shockwave and Pinky Pie face off was such a disappointment to me. A somewhat chaotic character versus a fully logical one should have been funnier that what we got.
I agree. He would either give them ideas, or freak them out. All of DC villains spending a day with him would rather deal with Joker once he was finished.
A part two to one of my three favorite videos on the channel! Whoo! [The other two are the Soundwave one and the d.j.d one, oddly enough. Just so interesting to see.]
15:00. Will you cover when Galvatron made multiple Megatron Clones to aid him in battle in a G1 Manga or made multiple clones of himself when he took control of Unicron's remains in the Unicron Trilogy?
Satan is a fallen angel but shockwave they type of dude to pretend he’s an angel and pretend he fell just to become a good guy again and reveal his master plan… or just created Satan who is just the good version of him because let’s face it Satan is a good guy compared to shockwave
Always fun when this guy shows up in a different continuity and EVERYONE is scared. Shockwave is that boogeyman that you dare not speak his name, or he might just show up...
Im probbaly gonna be alone on this but ultra magnus freaking out and running away looking at shockwave is funny as hell😂😂😂 this series could be long as the nile
"this is all of shockwave's crime"
"dear god"
"there's more"
"no..."
"But wait there is even more" Part 3 confirmed. o.O
THEES is a BUCKET (I'm sry, I had to)
It's okay, the big boobie can do anything he wants
@@KayzIdeasdear god
@@Sab1ththere’s more
I’m writing an essay on most sadistic fictional characters, Im 100% about to give him the number one slot
No...put him in his OWN tier
He’s not even sadistic. He just does what he does cause he can. In a way that’s more scary than
Are AM (i have no mouth and i must scream), judge holden (blood meridian) and the qu (all tomorrows) in it?
@@rizmiah9810because it's logical
Nah Tarn is the sadistic one lol Shockwave kills and torture but not for sadism its bc he's a terrorist leader
Megatron is so lucky that in most continuities, Shockwave and Soundwave are extremely loyal.
The thing is that in many versions Shockwave ISN'T loyal to Megatron, he's loyal to science and "logically" his brand of experimentation would NEVER be allowed to happen under the Autobots nor is going solo a viable option in most cases because then resource acquisition becomes an issue etc.
Then we get onto the idea of potentially replacing Megatron with someone else and in those cases it's impossible to be sure his experiments won't be impacted.
Megatron is simply the best means to Shockwaves ends, no more and no less.
Of course Megatron knows this but Shockwave is so good at what he does (and in most versions doesn't really have an interest in just taking leadership for himself) that he's worth the risk. It's a use/use situation.
@@dracotiasalso i bet megs is low key terrified of any contingency plan shockwave may have for betrayal
@@dracotias He said MOST. NOT *ALL*!!! BIG DIFFERENCE!
@@dubuyajay9964yeah but in MOST continuities, Shockwave isn’t loyal to Megatron.
Imagine having committed so many atrocities you get a two part saga explaining them
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if he says “this was my plan all along” for every single event that’s ever happened in the history of transformers. He kinda already has but then he’ll do it again just to say “this was my REAL master plan” just to have another 5 more for some ultimate scheme.
It's probably going to be a three part saga
@@meliasnahtony2951 probably
@@Skellidraws27 I mean, knowing Shockwave, the answer is "Almost certainly"
For now.
The second coming of Satan...no wait, maybe he went back in time to erase Satan from existence and take his spot. Eh?
Satan got so tired of satan he made satan just to replace Satan… even tho it was Satan all along the whole time and it was his ultimate plan
We're going back in time to the beginning of creation to replace Satan. That's right. We're going back in time to the beginning of creation to replace Satan.
Fun fact: In Animated, Blur wasn't just crushed into a cube. See, that was one of the continuities where dead bots loose their color. Not only was Cube Blur still blue, but the last shot of him showed that his Spark was still active! He was still ALIVE when they chucked him down the trash shoot!
Damn.
Almost like being buried alive
In a Transformers Animated comic that continues the series Sari finds Blur and restores him to his original form.
That probably left some mental scars for the speedster
I believe he was shown to be revived in a comic, but in some interviews the writers said that even if the comic was canon he wouldn't have returned to the cartoon.
Shockwave: "what part of Mad Scientist do you not understand?"
Mad as in angry or mad as in crazy?
Evil or just gravely misunderstood?
I think that’s past “mad”
@@drewo.127 Occasionally, both.
Being crazy or emotional is not very...logical.
The fact that there is a potential part 3 is insane
Fun fact about Animated Shockwave their was a deleted scene in which Beachcomer overheard him trying to talk to Megatron,but this interaction was like a hippie and didn't connect the dots in time so Shockwave turned into a tank and blew him to pieces with his parts turning gray
Shockwave makes the Geneva convention look like a suggestion
Geneva convention more like Geneva suggestion!
What we see: Geneva convention
What shockwave sees: Geneva convention *(OPTIONAL)*
In this case "The Tyrest Accord"
I think checklist makes more sense for him.
@@drakerogers453 shocks destroy the geneva convention
There's aftershocks from Shockwave, dear Primus almighty
"To me the geneva convention is merely, the geneva suggestion" ~ shockwave
I genuinely read this in David Sobolov's voice.
@@Jackson-ub1uv Try it in Corey Burton's voice.
*the Geneva checklist
“Wait there’s more”
“Dear god”
*another bucket*
There’s more.
No!..
dang, that scene of him making Optimus lose his mind is by far the most evil he's done. I believe that even though he died, it looks like he won that battle; Truly something that Satan would've done
"Why don't you play with the neighbors kid?"
The neighbors kid:
I'm 100% sure shockwave would kill Primus and Unicron, just for his sick kicks.
In a cosmic and logical way of course.
Bro probably made unicron. Scratch that. Bro IS unicron. Just like his true form or something idk.
Well, he _has_ attempted to basically end all of existence, so that wouldn't be out of character...
See what Galvatron did with Unicron's remains in the Unicron Trilogy. Shockwave would have a field day.
@SepticEmpire What about the monkey dude from the G1 cartoon? 🐒 🙈🙉🙊🍌
The idea of Shockwave being responsible for the Black Death in Bayverse is actually really interesting to me. A horrid thought, I know, but it's still an interesting idea in my opinion. I never noticed that painting before.
Elaborate
Any Resident Evil fans would immediately know about how that went as whenever a virus unknowingly spreads to an entire city, it’d be Raccoon City, Sheena Island, and other zombie outbreaks all over again minus the zombies and other Bioweapons.
Shockwave makes serial killers look like amateurs.
Female Autobot, I thought they were extinct
-Shoockwave
"Never mind, I can fix that."
Every five seconds Shockwave is just like "Lol I'm going to kill the Decepticons too" and only sometimes do they destroy him for it. How do they EVER trust him to not betray him? I'd sooner trust Starscream
It's better to be betrayed by our dork Starscream than to end up in Mister Eldritch Purple Cyclops experiment table
In many versions it's more to do with him being downright TERRIFYING to basically everything with enough of a brain to be scared so even if they tried to do anything about him none of them want to be the first to try.
Even Megatron only takes the risk because Shockwave is so effective that his usefulness as a tool makes worth keeping around because it means Megatron can keep an eye on him at the same time.
And as long as Shockwave is allowed to do his experiments he'll "mostly" leave *allies* alone.
When a guy is so sadistic that he need two parts. This is logical
Shockwave in almost any continuity; eats sparks & shits fear.
12:10 Actually no, Shockwave wasn't wearing a GHOST patch so he wasn't affected
You forget about episode 23 (at the very end) and 24 (the first half)
This seems all logical to me
Him laughing like a maniac seems "logical" to you?
@dubuyajay9964 yep
Now do good deeds of shockwave
Gonna be a short one
It's gonna be a short
I love that the list is SUPER short but also full of hilarious shit such as him seemingly having a random love of Cows specifically...which yes is technically still headcanon for now and based only on the most recent show but we've seen headcanon ascend more than once in Transformers before.
Thats his average monday
Hell yeah it's Shockwave
Dude, I am ever so happy when you drop lore. Give me more of Shockwave's war crimes.
*_THERE'S MORE!?!?!?!?!_*
Of Course, its Ilogical to think otherwise.
Soooo much more.
more war crimes shockwave have comited
cyberverse shockwave tried to make 2 heads from bayverse
@@HunterZurn-Marsh yeso
What he lacks in compassion for the sick, respect for cybertronian decency, and ANY verifiable formal training in medicine, Shockwave more than makes up for with a bottomless supply of unethical upgrades and a cold enjoyment of wielding them onto exposed steel!
I feel like we should have a "the many deaths of cliffjumper" video
Poor guy just gets a raw deal XD
There are like 3 maybe 4 deaths, all fairly recent
Shockwave, the Lucifer of Transformers.
Evil or just gravely misunderstood?
Shockwave is like a more sadistic version of Doctor Doom.
He is more sadistic than doctor doom
Science isn't about why. It's about "why not"?!
-Shockwave, probably
I now both want to read the Skybound comics, and am absolutely TERRIFIED to do so knowing that I unknowingly was correct again about something I didn't know.
You see, on several Discord Servers I kept joking that the next Shockwave interpretation should have him show little emotion except one, which is absolute giddiness to commit war crimes.
Just when I thought Shockwave couldn't get worse
"The geneva convention ? Yes I know of it, half of it is due to my activities, the rest is due to Canada."
-Shockwave
Shockwave in animated traumatized me. I was so scared of him for a long time, now he's the one con I'm so interested in.
You know you’re f**ked in the head when you have 2 PARTS!
ShockWave is one of the G.O.A.T no🧢, glad you dropped the part two
GOAT
20:40 that lil like 2 seconds of him trynna mimic what Optimus sounds like is actually pretty fucking Good fr sounds dayum near just like him.
plaque doctor:so what are you in for?
Shockwave:dissecting cybertronians
"See this shit this shit mean we win"😂
Part 2 hell yeah 🔥
“A surprised to be sure, but a welcome one”
20:24 This is aggressively 90's evoking.
Another Shockwave video?! I’m so f’n ready.
I swear I clicked this thinking that this was the first Shockwave video. I'm glad I'm partially blind. I love your videos
You know there's an above Thanos/Darksied level threat when there's a Part 2 Shockwave video !
I think that the absolute solver from murder drones was a shockwave experiment (change my mind)
If they were the same universe, that would most likely be the case
Optimus stored the Matrix data in his head in the G1 Marvel comics. It was this that he was after, but Optimus transferred it to Spike, who then used it to dismantle and rebuild Jetfire.
21:22 Bait used to be bel- IS THAT THE RED MIST
PROJECT MOON MENTION! SLEEPER AGENTS GO
OPEN THE CURTAINS
Greater Split: Horizontal
I wasn't expecting to hear Carpenter Brut paired with Shockwave's shenanigans
Just to touch on Shockwave going mad and hanging up Cyclonus' dead body, he was kinda going through an existential crisis at the time. See, Cyclonus (who was from the future) had let slip that he and Scourge had killed Shockwave in their past (his future). Shockwave murdered him in kind, but had a logic-induced breakdown due to the whole timey wimey nonsense. It took Ravage convincing him to chuck the body into the temporal paradox storm that was destroying reality that he regained his senses (and coincidentally fixed the last temporal anachronisms that were the cause of the time storm, changing future events in the process).
Man, I miss the Transformers UK comics...
Did you know that in WFC Soundwave is a quad changer having a lamppost, boombox and mini truck mode 4:28
Love your vids man! Hope you hit 100k by the end of the year
The fact that you say these are at all comparable to satan seems MOST ILLOGICAL ( I love the stuff, could you do a video on tarn?)
They did make a transformers mortal kombat game “forged to fight” they then killed it and now it’s Netflix exclusive
Mermaid Man would have a heart attack
_"EEEEVIIIL!!!"_
WHAT ?! PART WHAAAAT ?!
This cyclops is such a top tier villain, he inspired a big bad for my D&D game
Also hell yea Turbo Killer at the beginning
"Evil is an abstracted concept, your mind is too limited to not analyze the truth"
-Charles (atomic heart)
I literally watched the first part of this like 5 hours ago- glad there’s more!
Imagine trying to defend Shockwave in Court.
SG Shockwave has to be an absolute saint after hearing the amount of stuff this menace has done.
Also another thing in transformers prime one of the first things Megatron tells Shockwave when he sees the predatcon is that it warms hes spark to see him tampering with creation again.
Shockwave, the Geneva Convention is not a TO DO LIST
12:45 why I'm never gonna get that picture out of my head. It's stuck there for eternity. I'm gonna be dreaming it's gonna be an awesome dream and then all of a sudden, Optimus prime cow sucking thing
Worst part with the Skybound Optimus and that part with the baby?
That was baby Sam Witwicky. Read the comic to find out why he had this.
Spike, not Sam. That was one of Sparkplug's memories. Somehow.
Bait used to be beli- 14:38 HOLY SHIT IS THAT RED MIST!!!!
exacly what i tough at that moment lol
"You think there's a spy bot among us?"
"Yes, an... imposter... you might say..."
"Among us?"
"Yes. Among us."
the thing about skybound shockwave is rather than focus on making him a detached, logical schemer, they completely renvisioned him as a sadistic mad scientist. It's a very different take but extremely good, especially wqhen coupled when him being the defacto ruler of cybertron for millenia.
Shockwave singlehandedly is the reason Cybertron copies the geneva convention 💀
AM and cyn would tell shockwave he's mess up
Shockwave is what you get when the Logic isn’t logical enough…
The big question is if glados and shockwave meet would they duke it out or team up to take over the universe
Why not both.
Shockwave and Pinky Pie face off was such a disappointment to me. A somewhat chaotic character versus a fully logical one should have been funnier that what we got.
And fucking dark considering it was Shockwave she fought
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 I don't know who my money would have been on...
@@Brickerbrack Shockwave, mine is on Shockwave
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 I dunno... normal physics don't apply to Pinkie Pie... and I've read Cupcakes. 😬 (Don't read Cupcakes.)
@Brickerbrack that's my point. 2 opposite facing each other should have been way more interesting. Chaos vs. Logic.
3:33 the best part is the newspaper looks g1-ish
Me: well he cant be worse now
Mrnormalperson: oh you thought it was it but it was I SHOCKWAVE
Shockwave really be like: “I sunk their battleship…and their whales”
Idk man... Shockwave in TFOne was pretty mistreated, I think all of these "atrocities" can be excused because he got his eye poked...
Well in IDW Shockwave did have Shadowplay and empurata conducted on him
@ he did yes, but idk, eye poked sounds worse haha
I mean this with all of my being...
Never, and I mean NEVER, let Shockwave team up with Book Villains like AM. 💀
I agree. He would either give them ideas, or freak them out.
All of DC villains spending a day with him would rather deal with Joker once he was finished.
17:19
With a cheese grader?.........he knows........oh lord he is the one who made that video.......
shockwave checking off everthing on the genva convention
A part two to one of my three favorite videos on the channel! Whoo!
[The other two are the Soundwave one and the d.j.d one, oddly enough. Just so interesting to see.]
Here we go again!?
Gotta love the touch at the end playing Linken Park, oddly fitting.
If I'm not mistaken, Shockwave also created the Cortical Physic Patch in the Transformers Prime
Yep, he invented it, and is familiar with its idiosincrasis
I just finished watching the first one and I see you released a new one 🙏
His existence is war crime against creation
simply logical, i love shockwave hes my fav bot cuz hes just evil for the sake of being evil
15:00. Will you cover when Galvatron made multiple Megatron Clones to aid him in battle in a G1 Manga or made multiple clones of himself when he took control of Unicron's remains in the Unicron Trilogy?
There's satan then there's shockwave is the hardest thing i ever heard
Satan is a fallen angel but shockwave they type of dude to pretend he’s an angel and pretend he fell just to become a good guy again and reveal his master plan… or just created Satan who is just the good version of him because let’s face it Satan is a good guy compared to shockwave
i have been waiting a year for another "There's Satan. Then there's Shockwave"
There being a part 2 for this is diabolical.
I"t is only Logical". I am still a big Fan of Schockwave since Dark of the Moon and Prime. He is my favorite Decepticon.
Love the Amphibia reference at the beginning
Always fun when this guy shows up in a different continuity and EVERYONE is scared. Shockwave is that boogeyman that you dare not speak his name, or he might just show up...
“What is it with megatron and Severed heads?”
It’s an allusion to Idi Amin.
I really can’t find myself blaming shockwave for what he does. He’s the guardian … of an entire planet … and he’s significantly understaffed
Im probbaly gonna be alone on this but ultra magnus freaking out and running away looking at shockwave is funny as hell😂😂😂 this series could be long as the nile