If Fender wants to take this to the next level they should add nano tube technology at the pre-amp stage... use a design similar to "Blu Guitar Amp1" or the "Synergy" modular amp series that sound great and why not add a drive channel.. oh and add an effects loop !
The Super Champ XD is a Solid-state Modeling Amp with Tubes added to sweeten the deal and it does not look like a Modeling Amp at all. But what does a Modeling Amp look like?
@@KevinDarty When I think of a modelling amp, I think of something like a Line 6 where it's got lots of LEDs and knobs with a gazillion settings on the front. It's pretty obvious it's "modern" for lack of a better term.
I have this amp.......folks it's wonderful, I love it so much. The amp tone is mind blowing. I will sit and play through just to hear the tone. On stage no issue, studio, no issue, apartment,xno issue, 5 out of 5. And it will not break your back, solid cabinet . I'm super satisfied!!!!
I agree! 5 out of 5! I have the blonde version and its amazing. Beautiful tone and the ability to change the watt output! I've put my other 3 amps to bed.
I do think it sounds great…. But do you now feel like it’s still missing that special something.? I don’t know what it is. But while I think modeling Amps often all sound great. And plenty of tube amps sounds rubbish…. You don’t get those unicorns that just blow you away like you do with tube amps. My take anyway. Haven’t given this a good run, only a short run on it so I’ll play it in store and see
I bought a Tonemaster Twin recently. Love it. Played it at rehearsal twice. It's great. Bought it for reduced weight, wattage attenuation, and clean platform for pedals. Super. It screams at low wattage too. I have a 66 Super and Hot Rod as well. Because of the weight and tone, the Twin now goes to the gig.
Killer little amp I bought a Marshall code 100 combo about a year and a half ago stock sounds were bad if you don’t mind tweaking them but I use it as a flat speaker response with massive headroom ability and my helix floor unit is doing all the heavy lifting. Only reason I got one was well it’s absolutely stupid loud and flat response setup. If I was smarter I would’ve gotten 2 50 watts and ran them stereo setup essentially
I have a Fender London Reverb 100W amp I bought new back in 1983. I loved that amp but after a year of playing, it developed an intermittent cutting out problem that nobody could fix. So the lesson I learned with Solid State amps, they play great until they break. Nobody can fix them. If it was tube, yeah, there are plenty of techs that can fix. But give them a flakey Solid State amp and they cant do it. Sorry, but no more Solid State amps for me!!!! A word to the wise...
I really liked the way this sounded when I played it at Rick’s. I couldn’t believe it and then like you, I moved it...and was sold. Good vid and great playing Rhett.
Tioga Fretworks It’s about knowing what’s “enough” in each category. Not really that subtle a concept really, but perhaps one that comes with experience.
MattyK USA Well I told them I didn’t want one so........just kidding. I am thinking of a new series on amps that do the trilogy well, home, recording and gigging. This could be in for that series to be sure. Right now I have the new REVV D20 w an ultralight cab from Mojotone. It’s first up for “J1A, just one amp”.
See this is what we need out of solid state model heads and not having thousands of different sounds we just need a few good tones and something that's comparable to tube amps you can travel with
My whole life I might have cared more about amps in general than the two I have ever owned. But I am particularly grateful to see this. Thanks for the thoughtful way you have of doing things. I watch you all the time, and am really happy for any young backwater genius that might have fallen by the wayside without you. It’s historical and evolutionary. You are among a very few contributors that are making a difference in guitar culture. We all owe you.
It looks and sounds great and totally think they have their place. For me, in a studio setting, one of the big things I like about valve amps is repairability and the ability to change/mod/adapt things to get sounds that aren't stock
yeah I think tube amps fit the studio setting a little better than this sort of amp. if you don't need to worry about hauling a tube amp and have the ability to play it at whatever volumes and that sort of stuff then the tube amp is the way to go. but for the touring modern musician a tone master amp has much more of the modern capabilities (and the weight) and great sound that fits that kind of person.
You are all right as long as this thing is under warranty.But solid state amps are expensive to repair and parts are hard to find.Tubes are easy to replace.Good luck with that.
i have my tonemaster deluxe for about a month now , and i'm so happy with it that i'm selling my handmade usa tubeamp ( 3rd power wooly coats spanky mk ll - wich is an princeton kind off like amp , wich sounds great by the way ) The fact is that i'm a pub gig player ( blues/classicrock coverbands) , and although the 3rd power sounds great i don't really " Need" an expensive tubeamp anymore now that fender has made these tonemasters . That really is a big change of thought for me because i've been playing a lot off expensive handmade tubeamps for the last 35 years from companies like mesa boogie / fender and some dutch brands like marble and also hook . I am not a fan of the kempers/helix ect or katana's/ blues cube ect ( to many options and programming ) , but this works for me because it's just like an "normal " amp . As i"m getting older i tend to divert form the expensive gear ( handmade tubeamps /custom shop guitars ) to the more "player" kind off gear , and for that reason the tonemaster deluxe is my "amp " for now and the coming years . I already have played some gigs with it and nobody complained about the sound not beeing o.k. or whatever , so yeah , i think this amp is a " no brainer " . Get it while you can as janis joplin once sung , greetings from the Netherlands ( i think i come and see you play in dordrecht on 12/12 ) , Toon.
That's exactly the idea: Fender came out with a digital unit, dressing it up like a "normal" amp, so the user feels immediately at ease with the controls. Smart move !
@@frantisca yes , for sure a smart and bold move and they made it work , i see a lot off comments from people who find it to expensive ( it for sure isn't cheap ) and are unhappy with the fact that the amp is made in china . Personally i don't care to much where something is made as long as it's well made , and for this i'm willing to pay a little extra .
@@antoonhermans8953 I play a VOX Pathfinder, a solid state amp that boards a technology that mimics a tube amp's breakup. Truly, it's very realstic. Plus it's got a reverb and trem on board. It's small, compact and light and when I need more oomph, I plug it out on a 2x12 featuring Celestions (G-12T75+CreamBack). One would not believe it's only 15 watts ...! Oh: and it's made in Viet-Nam ;-)
I play mine at pub gigs too. You can't beat these things. Everyone is sauced anyway so they don't know what sounds good and what doesn't anyway. Which is moot, because they sound killer. I can't tell the difference. Maybe if you were recording you'd go pure tube, but for gigging, this thing wins.
The choice to maintain the classic look without any digital thingy on the front panel killing the vibe (see Marshall Code) might be a major selling point for a digital amp modeled after the real thing. Well thought out Fender👌
Just did an A/B test of this in a shop, and must say you neither sounds better than the other. They’re both great! But with the 1/3 weight reduction and enticing price, the Tone master is definitely the winner for me!
I used to have a V1 Fender Mustang modelling amp about 9 years ago, and even back then Fender's ability to recreate their own amps digitally was *really* impressive. Even after moving to a proper tube amp, I sometimes found myself coming back to the mustang because those Fender clean sounds were so sweet, even from a cheap modelling amp.
I have a Fender Mustang 111 I've been Playing thru for many years...Jobs out and at home....I own other Tube amps....Blues deluxe...2 Champs...A Marshall...And it's The Fender Mustang and Vox AC 10 I am drawn to the most.
In my opinion, Marshall was way ahead of the others in making solid-state amps that could emulate the sound and feel of tube amps. They have been doing it since the 80s.
Here I am 3 years later and I had no idea this amp existed. It truly sounds excellent and your playing shows it off well. I’m appreciative that Fender had the vision to build into the solid state category in such a substantial way. I just purchased a Yamaha THR for home practice and recording, but based on this review and demo alone, the Tone Master is the first amp I will look into for a pedal-ready gigging amp in the future. Thanks Rhett, excellent content as always.
I actually purchased the Blonde Deluxe Reverb Tone Master. To me, it sounds absolutely perfect. Even though it has the Celestion speaker, it sounds even more like the Deluxe Reverb than the Jensen one. The mids are pushed a bit more making it sound just right. The digital bright cap removed makes it even better. The look is great, but wish they would have given the option of the original look or the Blonde. As cool as it looks, that option would be great. Now, they did modify the Reverb and Vibrato. If you crank the Blonde Reverb to 10, it will give you that deep, but still usable sound. It just gives you that "oh yeah, I remember that tone" good feeling almost hollow like Tone. I really recommend it. The Jensen vs the Blonde has only been done on a small % of occasions. Like 4 videos and only 2 were side by side. 1 was pretty good, but rushed, the 2nd was meh. You really couldn't hear the differences because of the style of play. I would really encourage you to do that. Because Zac Childs did the other that didn't really compare the 2 at the same time, but was so impressed, he actually bought the Blonde. Yeah, him! But do the comparison with the patch, or not, on the original and the Blonde. You will be even more satisfied with this Tone by far.
Really great instrumental in the beginning of the video. Kind of nice not just just hear an amp with a bunch of nonsense noodling but with an actual, composed song that was that strong. I suddenly found myself imagining driving my car through a desert mountainscape just after a rainstorm... yeah I know- weird- but that's the image that tune evoked for me!
I've had mine for about 4 months now and I am so happy with the sound and performance of this amp. I have the creme colored amp with a Celestion and it really does the job. I have owned vintage and reissue Fender Amps and this lightweight screamer matches them all. I still have my original Blues Deluxe and my Vibro King but the Deluxe goes gigging every week. Great sounds, Great Post.
Wow, a lot of "Get off my lawn" hate in this comments thread. I think this sounds great. Digital might not be your cup of tea, but you can't deny it's come a long way and in a live setting and/or recording it's going to sound great to the listener. My issue is the feel to the player. I like the feel and feedback a tube amp gives me. They need to work on improving this in the digital realm, if that's even possible.
I've had mine for about three months, ten gigs, and I absolutely love it. It is a bit more crisp than a stock DRRI, but I attribute that to the Neo speaker, which is more similar to my PRRI/JBL E110 and my DRRI/JBL D120 that I've been using for the last fifteen years, so I like it even more than if it sounded exactly like the Jenson. And I can just set the Tone Master DR up and not worry if I read the room right and should have used the Deluxe or the Princeton, I can just use the attenuator at 22W or 12W to get what I want in relation to the drummer and the stage volume. And it sounds fantastic, I don't use pedals so I know.
As an electrical engineer and guitarist I've always been amazed at all the imaginative talk about amplifiers. Frequency is frequency, sound is sound, whether tube or solid-state, digital or analog, most ears can't tell any difference....
It's fingers and response vs. when the ear hears it come back. Feel. All digital amps have some kind of latency because there's a computer that is computing and converting, and that takes time vs. analog which is instant response.
I played solid states for a long time before I could afford a tube. Tubes play differently. They have these array of sounds that come very naturally when you play tube versus when you play solid state. My playing changed almost overnight once I played my first tube amp
The Deluxe Reverb Tone Master I brought home the day before yesterday is truly the best amp I've ever owned. I've been playing since 1963. I cannot wait to take 'er out. Your review is right on. Thanks.
I have purchased one of these new Tome Master Deluxe reverbs, and I have to say that I am really enjoying it. It is a very versatile amp, and a do it all amp. You don’t need a small amp anymore, for bedroom volume, and you also have plenty of volume for live gigs. You can also use your volume, to drive your sound, and adjust the over all output with the attenuator. With it’s light weight, and it’s attenuator and line out, it’s a do it all amp, thats a pleasure to use.
Honestly i used a Fender Cyber Deluxe that was pretty money in getting a good tone, and that was like 15 years ago. I think Fender has a pretty nice emulation game that is underappreciated and worth checking out.
The Fender Deluxe Reverb tube amp has been the most recorded amp in history on everything from country to rock from blues to funk and soul and every kind of music that you can think of and no other amp can come close to the Deluxe Reverb on that level. The Deluxe Reverb has been used in live situations since it debut back in the sixties and is still used by major players today. Fender has nailed this sound in a new digital package with new user friendly features making it a very versatile amp for studio or stage. The light weight and portability of this amp will save the backs of many working musicians. This was not designed to do anything but sound like a Deluxe Reverb and it accomplishes that very well. Again, in a live situation there is nobody who will hear the difference between this amp and a Deluxe tube version so these controlled studio demos mean nothing in the real world in which we play in. If you're looking to mimic every amp ever made and every effect ever made then go get yourself a Helix or a Kemper and make yourself happy however, if you are looking for a classic amp that does one thing extremely well then the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb is the amp to buy. I have been playing live shows and studio sessions for a long time and I know what works for me. I have been using this amp since it came out and I am totally satisfied with every aspect of it's performance. The Helix and Kempers are not the be all and end all amp simulators in fact they too sound fake and lack luster in many instances. Only amp snobs, closed minded wanna be's and opinionated block heads are going to stick their noses up about this amp. Get real because we live and play in the real world not somebody's basement studio.
i totally agree , i'm very happy with my tm deluxe too , for some it's to expensive ( i say : then buy yourself a katana/bandit/bluescube/nextone or whatever , these are also nice amps for lower prices but don't sound as good as the tm does , and btw a nextone or bluescube from wich i think are the 2 most decent sounding amps off this range , will also cost you 600-700 euro;s new ) or that it's not "made in " the right country ( i say , who cares as long as it sounds great ) and others are worried that the amp will fail within a few years and there will be no spareparts ( i say : fender has spend 3 years to develop this amp , so one might assume they have thought about this to ).
That tele sounds great through that solid state amp. I usually avoid any modeling type amps, but I’m impressed with the tones.Your playing is great as always.
Rhett, I've been using the TM Deluxe Version 1 for a few years now. I upgraded the Firmware to get rid of the Bright Cap and Give the Reverb more room for adjustment. I LOVE the Deluxe TM now!! I play mostly Blues and Classic Rock and it works GREAT for both!! And now in my 59th yr. of performing it really helps my back problems!! LOL! At 23lbs. it's a life changer!! Thanks man, please keep up the Good Work! Love your channel and content! Cheers from Salem, Oh.
i think that all the big well known tube amp builders are looking at this with great attention and will soon follow ( seeing how good they sell and all ) .
Marshall did the JMD:1 in the late 90's, them again with the Code. The JMD is a great buy these days should you find one. Preamp is software, power amp is 2 EL34 tubes plus a tube phase inverter. Like the Code, it's a library of Marshall tones.
Just wanted to say that I really enjoy these gear reviews...9/10 I get more of the info I really care about from your overviews, presented in a manner that is both professional & entertaining ! Thank you very much!
I love your honesty. You don't beat around the bush and why your channel sticks out over other channel reviewers who have hidden agendas to sell and have muted opinions, like Andertons.
EVERYONE should check out the first minute and a half of this video! The intro song is deeply delightful. It starts with delicate notes, gets eerie and haunted, and gets bold and bouncy with a "soaring" solo. I've listened to it 8 times. I love how the bass notes work with some of the same notes as the lead guitar. That cooperation makes for a marvelous song - when the lead seems like flourishes off the bass foundation. Fender has to be happy with this video, too.
The echo and hallow tones towards the end really stood out for me. Really reminds me of Heaven in a delightful way. The many possibilities and the weight are a great touch.
Great review, I’ve had the amp myself for over a week now and yes it is brighter, simple fix is to dial the treble down to about 3.5 to 4 and it sounds balanced and pleasant, over 5 i found it’s a little too bright for my liking. Amp plays well with humbuckers but really shines clean with a Strat or Tele, overdriven sounds are good but not harmonically rich like the real tube Deluxe, a good overdrive pedal will give you a better overdriven tone I found. The Tele with Bigsby sounded wonderful and clear this amp really does shine with single coils and does cleans and edge of breakup damn well, full on breakup not so great. I imagine Fender will release firmware in the future to address issues and improve, there is a USB micro input on the bottom of the electronics case, hard to find but it’s there for future improvements and releases. Also one thing that isn’t mention very often is that on both inputs 1 and 2, on both sides of the amp there is a difference in input 2, it’s a -6 db on input 2 for high output pickups, this kinda mellows the tone if you prefer that sound.
Just help me convince my wife that this is something good and much needed for this humble and deserving musician. Also, along with the new Ultra Strat she would have a happy husband in a happy home.
Andre Du Somme As far as the Ultra Strat tell her that Texas Tea is only available on the Ultras and it’s Fender’s best new color in YEARS. Well, that’s of course assuming you’re actually looking at that color. I’ve seen it person and as good as it looks in videos it’s even better in person.
Just tell her this and the ultra are your ticket to the big time. UA-cam is the future. Real modern musicians need real modern gear or they're laughed off of UA-cam, and those who are part of the digital age of music are on their way to 10M monthly views. Luxe all the way from this point forward baby, no more $100 club gigs. That should do it 4U.
Great review. I just bought one of these and I’m really glad I did after seeing this. I remember playing in a studio 20 years ago and the best amp there was an old twin reverb. It always sounded great, especially when recording. This reminded me so much of it and the price was right.
@@funkster007 they have the technology. i use a code 50 at home and it sounds phenomenal. Marshall can model amps well and sell it cheap. will they sell themselves to the devil. thats the question. ... they should
@@jordaneimer2873 I haven't really kept up on the latest modeling amps and gear. But if any of these companies can get close to the classic sounds on a budget, I'm game.👍
I bought mine today and Ive owned a number of Deluxe Reverbs and I think its great...i have some hardwired tweeds that are killers...being a working musician in sydney clubs, the power scaling is useful, the weight is sensational and i love the sound...the reverb and trem are fine
I have a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb and a DRRI. I find the difference to be precisely what Rhett said. I would say the DRRI is warmer (whereas the TM is a bit brighter) and has a mid thing going on that the Tonemaster doesn’t have. If you’re looking for both amps to sound exactly the same, you won’t get that. But they do both sound superb in my opinion. I’ve played them side by side quite a bit and I like what I hear from both. When I’m playing just the Tonemaster, I don’t feel like I’m missing something. In fact, I think of how great it sounds and LOVE the fact that I can play it pushed at a reasonable home volume. That’s my #1 reason for owning it.
Rhett (Rick's friend Kinch here)! I was BLOWN AWAY when you lifted it. I mean ....amazing for a gigging player, especially ppl with fucked up backs....which is 75% of most gigging musicians!!!!
I bought a Marshall Code 50 for home with the footswitch it lets me emulate almost any Marshall sound, including cabinets, preamp, etc. Great little amp that has enough power to even gig with. And with Bluetooth control, you can run the amp from your phone on the mic stand. The one word I would say is versatility. No it will never scream like a tube amp, but it sure gives it a hell of shot.
If one of those class D amp modules goes it could be tricky to find a replacement, especially a few years down the line. The reason the originals are still going is they are serviceable with simple parts
They been out now for what , A year now? I have never heard or read anywhere that someone had one that broke, or even required service.. or arrived DOA new, or was making a funny noise.. nothing..
I think this amp is worth checking out. The fact that you can adjust the wattage for a lower volume without losing much tone. Great for low level jamming. Also, you can't beat the weight. Pretty cool. Thanks Rhett!
I sold my H&K Grandmeister 40 with all the heavy speaker cabinets for the Fender Deluxe Reverb Tone Master last month and have no regrets. Tested briefly in the shop and was immediately impressed, it does what it should and does it fabulously. It also works well with my pedalboard. I do not regret the exchange and my back thanks me for it. It is a simple but effective workhorse.
Luke Robinett I think it is the perfect gig amp. It’s light, has the tone and CPT out with IRs...keep the tube one at home but this thing is loud and is every bit a fender IMO.
I played this in Guitar Center today ! I’m super like, **pinky up about NEEDING a tube amp. Plugged in today and was BLOWN AWAY! Didn’t know it was solid state til after. INCREDIBLE AMP!! BUYING IT TMRW. Honestly nicest thing I’ve ever played on
See here is the GOLD! I know some people love modeling amps and tweaking and tweaking, I just want an analog solid state amp that sounds like a Fender... just give me a Fender that sounds like a Fender. This is great!
Amp manufacturers tried to instill Solid State amps back in the mid to late 70s. Tubes won! Tube Amps will win again. Tubes will always win, hopefully.... :)
Thanks for the video. I thought it sounded best plugged straight in. I agree with you about the reverb on the tube reissue, its usable range is from 1 1/2 to 2 1/2. I find it odd that the worst feature on a "deluxe reverb" is the reverb
Nice amp. But if I want a working man's amp that I can use and abuse, I certainly would not spend $900 for this amp. The working man's solid state around here for decades is the Bandit 112. Good luck beating the tone, reliability, and volume of the Bandit at it's price point. One that real working musicians in the bar/club scene, actually CAN afford. If I want to spend near a grand, I would purchase a tube amp. This strikes me as the beginning of manufacturer's attempts to use modelling to replace tubes, but still get high dollar for the amps, since tubes are so costly to make and most countries environmental laws have relegated their production mostly to places like China. Enjoyed the video, as always. Thanks!
I agree 1000 Bucks for a solid state. I can get a Vibrolux Reverb for that price and that’s a great sounding amp. I have a trans tube 112 solid state on my work bench for testing pedal builds and guitars and I would definitely gig with it in a pinch. That being said; I would put any of my tube amps against modeling, the response of a tube amp when driven with a boost or overdrive can’t be matched.
I just bought the Twin Reverb TM amp last night. It is an upgrade from my Princeton 60w 12" speaker. All I can say is WOW - it is so loud and clean and no distortion. I can't wait to play with it more tonite! And I got it off Craig's L. for $650 in pristine condition!
I played one this weekend at Guitar Center right next to a Deluxe Reissue and it blew the Reissue away. People are concerned about it being digital and breaking with only a 2 year warranty, them you just have a box with a Speaker that is useless. To me that could happen to all the Digital/Solid State Amps out today. Oh, by the way we went there for my son to buy an Amp and he was going there to get the Tone Master Super, but they didn't have one, so he bought a used Devilcat Jimmy Head made local here in Georgia. Great Amp!
I disagree in part - i think the DRRI is a very good sounding amp, not just "reliable" und "affordable" to get a job done. Other than that i fully agree, I would buy a ToneMaster in a heartbeat if it was significantly cheaper. It is almost the price of a 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb. Fender should aim more at the $500 range and i`m sure those would sell well.
I have a friend who has one. They are impressive for the job you describe. I haven't gone that route because I already have been using Quilters for several years now. A bit different, but the same advantages: the only differences in tones may be a preference, they're lighter, more reliable, LOUD, have a great direct out sound, sound great at any volume.
Fender wasn't trying to make it sound like a DRRI. They said brought out their best vintage Deluxe Reverbs from the vault and modeled the TM after those.
Marshall produced some " transtube" type amps. I have a rackmount 80 x 80 that has a tube circuit switch in back to cut the simulation in or out. I find this great for live work. It can get frickin loud!
@@adrianaprhys it’s meant to simulate a tube amp. There are several videos on UA-cam where the bandit was compared to a tube amp and the player couldn’t tell the difference
Vox should just stick their MV50 AC with Nutube in a light-weight AC30 cab, add an attenuator and effects loop, and call it a day. I'd say the MV50 AC is closer to an AC30 than a Tonemaster is to a Reissue. Vox has the technology to do exactly what fender did, but ANALOG. all they need to do is pull the trigger.
It's definitely a great idea. Investing effort and time into _a single amp model_ will yield much better results than investing the same in a modeller that can simulate 20 amps. And we never use all those amp models anyways. I usually find one I like and stick with that. This is part of the reason why the Catalyst is such a best seller. And this idea of simulating a tube amp is great, if done properly. The problem with this particular amp is that it's too expensive. But that's my opinion.
@ghost mall From my point of view, considering it's just one amp, it's way too expensive compared to the real thing. If it was like $400-$500 it would have been more appropriate. Just look at the Line 6 Catalyst. Sure, it's not the same quality, but it's multiple amp models and effects.
@@CristiNeagu have you heard the Catalyst in a room? It's horrible. I was impressed by the sounds I heard on UA-cam demos, but man, from up close, the Catalyst is worse than not only a ToneMaster, but a Febder Champion as well...
@@CristiNeagu one reason for the price is that aside from the amp section, it's all built in the USA. We've seen this before..but tube amps are still being made and sold ! not dead yet
Overall, I'm really curious about the TMDRs. I've played one at a local shop and am seriously considering trading my Carr in for one. It sounds crazy, but my use case is exactly the "Honda Civic Hybrid" example: I need something reliable and easy to use that will get me close enough to a great tone but is easy to live with. Some other thoughts: 1. Loved your faux wet-dry idea. I also suspect you can fake a dual mic setup by sticking a SM57 on the front and blending in the Royer IR. 2. "Tonemaster" AC30s and Pro Reverbs would be so dope.
I bought myself the Tone Master Deluxe. It's a great sounding amp with lots of nice features. Being able to record fantastic tones at home in standby mode is awesome (especially for the neighbours ;). Also there's the firmware updates to make the amp even better. Love it!
Been anxiously waiting for this video since seeing your IG post about it the other day, especially since you commented saying that you would probably go with one of these amps instead of their tube counterparts if you had to get another one. That's saying a lot, I think. I really hope Marshall does a line of amps similar to this. Bluesbreaker combo, anyone?
@@jdl2180 He implied that if he had to do it all over again and had to get a version of the Deluxe amp, he would likely choose the Tonemaster. I get what you're saying (despite the fact that he already has kemper and helix non-tube amps in his collection), but his comment made it seem like if he just had to choose one amp, not taking into account the other amps he owns, he'd go with TM. It was just an off-the-cuff instagram comment, though lol.
Those who understand marketing know that if it's too cheap, the perception is "it's not very good".. words to live by.this is a $300-$500 amp at the absolute maximum
It sounds great! But the price point really has to come down! Come on Fender it’s a Chinese made solid state digital amp! I mean you can get a great sounding Fender Champion 100 2x12 for €300. If it does come down I might get one to go along side my valve/tube amp.
Had this for 6 months now and I can tell you its worth every asking penny for it. when you take into account the zero maintenance up keep, the actually tone and features along with the low running noise this thing has it ticks many boxes. Hit the front end with a regular issue Tube screamer and it sounds like heaven. Try one should you get the opportunity, its very good.
I must be surrounded by horses, cuz all I hear are nay-sayers! Remember when everyone was saying that digital photography will NEVER replace film? The “Tubes Forever” crowd sound just as funny to me right now. You think they won’t capture everything you love about your bestest tube amp in an algorithm? Remember digital photography. They'll capture all that and make it even better...everything but the weight! 🤪 Thank you for the review Rhett!
@@bobbyosborne2375 OK il come at you with an in depth knowledge into deep learning AI. With the rate at which perfect simulation software is advancing in more scientific and mathematical ways we are ever closer to perfect. I give it 8 to 10 years and computer simulation will be better than tube or identical to tube. There you go that's an actual researched opinion
@@Owtyg23 AI will NEVER match the warmth of a tube amp. They said the same thing about digital music years ago. Likely before you were born, and guess what? More and more people are switching back to vinyl. Something is lost by going digital. They're good for practicing and for some bands, they're good live. (Metal) But there's a whole other subset of guitar players out there that have to have the warmth and presence of a tube amp. AI will never replace that.
As long as there's tubes available I'm sticking with them. I did play the Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb and liked it, but the price isn't worth dropping the tube version. Might be ok for studio, but like I said, I'm sticking with glass.
I would love to try one - as a working musician, its unique feature set combined with Fender tones is a combination that seems pretty hard to beat on everyday gigs, wedding gigs - and even recording a lot of stuff too. Especially if Fender would make a Tonemaster Tweed amp or something along those lines, I wouldn't think twice about it... or maybe a digital version of their Blues Deluxe amps? I love mine, but I'd love to just put it on my frontloaded bike and - literally - go to town on it!
Mads, if you are thinking this route why not get a proper modeler and an FR FR cab? It would give you much more flexibility and be just as easy to transport
But it doesn’t have that Fender tone. It may as well say Boss on the outside. These are very stale, no character or warmth. Tube amps smoke these. Drop your dough on a tube amp.
The stereo demo was absolutely amazing! Reliability on the road is a huge concern with a lot of valve amps - I'm English by the way! - especially older ones, which can be horribly dependent on local power supply.
I recently played the tone master twin. It's amazing. The shop let me play it at full volume - in fact, they encouraged me to - and wow! I'm glad I wasn't planning on more children. That's some serious volume! I kept all the settings and turned the power level down all the way. Instant twin tones at apartment levels. I am planning on purchasing the twin.
jim torek true. This is a solid state fender amp. Cheap junk. Sorry. The pT 15 is one of many lightweight tube amps. Has cab sims. Cabinets like a 1x12 aren’t heavy. I would never get a combo anyway anymore.
Came back up in my feed. 3 years later and love mine. Updated firmware as soon as I could and never looked back. Have kept my 75 SFDR but never use it now. Really.
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Rhett, have you tried the Blonde?
Could you re-upload Helix presets??? The link in your description is outdated and file is on the server...
If Fender wants to take this to the next level they should add nano tube technology at the pre-amp stage... use a design similar to "Blu Guitar Amp1" or the "Synergy" modular amp series that sound great and why not add a drive channel.. oh and add an effects loop !
I'm waiting for a Bassman or dual showman tone master version
Y I’ll pay upuï
I just called fender and said “no I do not want to try a tone master deluxe, don’t send me one,”
Let’s see if I get one in the mail 🤷🏽♂️🤪
DividedByTime good luck bro 😂😂
LoL! Good luck! Keep us posted.
it's really more of a camry
Great idea my friend lol
you did the opposite - Fender will now answer YES
The fact that Fender finally made a modeling amp that doesn't look like a modeling amp is a winner I think. It's worth a lot to look the part.
The Super Champ XD is a Solid-state Modeling Amp with Tubes added to sweeten the deal and it does not look like a Modeling Amp at all. But what does a Modeling Amp look like?
@@KevinDarty When I think of a modelling amp, I think of something like a Line 6 where it's got lots of LEDs and knobs with a gazillion settings on the front. It's pretty obvious it's "modern" for lack of a better term.
@@alpacarama21 I play a Line 6 at rehearsal because I'm too lazy to bring my amp. I hate the thing.
Yes, the traditional Fender look and the light weight are convincing.
I mean my lt25 looks like a modern amp as opposed to just a modelling amp. Apart from a 1x1 inch screen it is just buttons and knobs
Can we all just appreciate how good the introduction music was?
Goddamn that was a mighty fine composition!
agreed
yeah, thought the same ....the writing, playing and it sounds very good...
So say we all.
I've come back about 5 times now just to listen to the intro
Sounds like a band called "yawning man" to me
I have this amp.......folks it's wonderful, I love it so much. The amp tone is mind blowing. I will sit and play through just to hear the tone. On stage no issue, studio, no issue, apartment,xno issue, 5 out of 5. And it will not break your back, solid cabinet . I'm super satisfied!!!!
I agree! 5 out of 5! I have the blonde version and its amazing. Beautiful tone and the ability to change the watt output! I've put my other 3 amps to bed.
I do think it sounds great…. But do you now feel like it’s still missing that special something.? I don’t know what it is. But while I think modeling Amps often all sound great. And plenty of tube amps sounds rubbish…. You don’t get those unicorns that just blow you away like you do with tube amps. My take anyway. Haven’t given this a good run, only a short run on it so I’ll play it in store and see
@@dbo4506 if you’re looking for something unmeasurable that makes you feel a certain way, well good luck I guess.
I bought a Tonemaster Twin recently. Love it. Played it at rehearsal twice. It's great. Bought it for reduced weight, wattage attenuation, and clean platform for pedals. Super. It screams at low wattage too. I have a 66 Super and Hot Rod as well. Because of the weight and tone, the Twin now goes to the gig.
100%
Killer little amp I bought a Marshall code 100 combo about a year and a half ago stock sounds were bad if you don’t mind tweaking them but I use it as a flat speaker response with massive headroom ability and my helix floor unit is doing all the heavy lifting. Only reason I got one was well it’s absolutely stupid loud and flat response setup. If I was smarter I would’ve gotten 2 50 watts and ran them stereo setup essentially
Sounds great Rhett!!
Thanks man!
Rick have you done a top 10 amps ?...top 3 retro amps maybe...
He also looks like Rhett from Good mythical morning HA
i need a top ten amps vid
I have a Fender London Reverb 100W amp I bought new back in 1983. I loved that amp but after a year of playing, it developed an intermittent cutting out problem that nobody could fix. So the lesson I learned with Solid State amps, they play great until they break. Nobody can fix them. If it was tube, yeah, there are plenty of techs that can fix. But give them a flakey Solid State amp and they cant do it. Sorry, but no more Solid State amps for me!!!! A word to the wise...
I really liked the way this sounded when I played it at Rick’s. I couldn’t believe it and then like you, I moved it...and was sold.
Good vid and great playing Rhett.
The weight cinches the deal LOL. Even if it wasn't *quite* as good... old man here.
Tioga Fretworks It’s about knowing what’s “enough” in each category. Not really that subtle a concept really, but perhaps one that comes with experience.
I love your videos. Watch them all the time.
So Keith, does this mean that the TM will make it into your consolidated collection?
MattyK USA Well I told them I didn’t want one so........just kidding.
I am thinking of a new series on amps that do the trilogy well, home, recording and gigging. This could be in for that series to be sure. Right now I have the new REVV D20 w an ultralight cab from Mojotone. It’s first up for “J1A, just one amp”.
See this is what we need out of solid state model heads and not having thousands of different sounds we just need a few good tones and something that's comparable to tube amps you can travel with
My whole life I might have cared more about amps in general than the two I have ever owned. But I am particularly grateful to see this. Thanks for the thoughtful way you have of doing things. I watch you all the time, and am really happy for any young backwater genius that might have fallen by the wayside without you. It’s historical and evolutionary. You are among a very few contributors that are making a difference in guitar culture. We all owe you.
It looks and sounds great and totally think they have their place. For me, in a studio setting, one of the big things I like about valve amps is repairability and the ability to change/mod/adapt things to get sounds that aren't stock
yeah I think tube amps fit the studio setting a little better than this sort of amp. if you don't need to worry about hauling a tube amp and have the ability to play it at whatever volumes and that sort of stuff then the tube amp is the way to go. but for the touring modern musician a tone master amp has much more of the modern capabilities (and the weight) and great sound that fits that kind of person.
You are all right as long as this thing is under warranty.But solid state amps are expensive to repair and parts are hard to find.Tubes are easy to replace.Good luck with that.
i have my tonemaster deluxe for about a month now , and i'm so happy with it that i'm selling my handmade usa tubeamp ( 3rd power wooly coats spanky mk ll - wich is an princeton kind off like amp , wich sounds great by the way ) The fact is that i'm a pub gig player ( blues/classicrock coverbands) , and although the 3rd power sounds great i don't really " Need" an expensive tubeamp anymore now that fender has made these tonemasters . That really is a big change of thought for me because i've been playing a lot off expensive handmade tubeamps for the last 35 years from companies like mesa boogie / fender and some dutch brands like marble and also hook . I am not a fan of the kempers/helix ect or katana's/ blues cube ect ( to many options and programming ) , but this works for me because it's just like an "normal " amp . As i"m getting older i tend to divert form the expensive gear ( handmade tubeamps /custom shop guitars ) to the more "player" kind off gear , and for that reason the tonemaster deluxe is my "amp " for now and the coming years . I already have played some gigs with it and nobody complained about the sound not beeing o.k. or whatever , so yeah , i think this amp is a " no brainer " . Get it while you can as janis joplin once sung , greetings from the Netherlands ( i think i come and see you play in dordrecht on 12/12 ) , Toon.
That's exactly the idea: Fender came out with a digital unit, dressing it up like a "normal" amp, so the user feels immediately at ease with the controls. Smart move !
@@frantisca yes , for sure a smart and bold move and they made it work , i see a lot off comments from people who find it to expensive ( it for sure isn't cheap ) and are unhappy with the fact that the amp is made in china . Personally i don't care to much where something is made as long as it's well made , and for this i'm willing to pay a little extra .
@@antoonhermans8953 I play a VOX Pathfinder, a solid state amp that boards a technology that mimics a tube amp's breakup. Truly, it's very realstic. Plus it's got a reverb and trem on board. It's small, compact and light and when I need more oomph, I plug it out on a 2x12 featuring Celestions (G-12T75+CreamBack). One would not believe it's only 15 watts ...! Oh: and it's made in Viet-Nam ;-)
I play mine at pub gigs too. You can't beat these things. Everyone is sauced anyway so they don't know what sounds good and what doesn't anyway. Which is moot, because they sound killer. I can't tell the difference. Maybe if you were recording you'd go pure tube, but for gigging, this thing wins.
The choice to maintain the classic look without any digital thingy on the front panel killing the vibe (see Marshall Code) might be a major selling point for a digital amp modeled after the real thing. Well thought out Fender👌
Yep
You don’t want a touch screen window??? Me neither…
Just did an A/B test of this in a shop, and must say you neither sounds better than the other. They’re both great! But with the 1/3 weight reduction and enticing price, the Tone master is definitely the winner for me!
I used to have a V1 Fender Mustang modelling amp about 9 years ago, and even back then Fender's ability to recreate their own amps digitally was *really* impressive. Even after moving to a proper tube amp, I sometimes found myself coming back to the mustang because those Fender clean sounds were so sweet, even from a cheap modelling amp.
I have a Fender Mustang 111 I've been Playing thru for many years...Jobs out and at home....I own other Tube amps....Blues deluxe...2 Champs...A Marshall...And it's The Fender Mustang and Vox AC 10 I am drawn to the most.
In my opinion, Marshall was way ahead of the others in making solid-state amps that could emulate the sound and feel of tube amps. They have been doing it since the 80s.
Here I am 3 years later and I had no idea this amp existed. It truly sounds excellent and your playing shows it off well. I’m appreciative that Fender had the vision to build into the solid state category in such a substantial way. I just purchased a Yamaha THR for home practice and recording, but based on this review and demo alone, the Tone Master is the first amp I will look into for a pedal-ready gigging amp in the future. Thanks Rhett, excellent content as always.
I actually purchased the Blonde Deluxe Reverb Tone Master. To me, it sounds absolutely perfect. Even though it has the Celestion speaker, it sounds even more like the Deluxe Reverb than the Jensen one. The mids are pushed a bit more making it sound just right. The digital bright cap removed makes it even better. The look is great, but wish they would have given the option of the original look or the Blonde. As cool as it looks, that option would be great. Now, they did modify the Reverb and Vibrato. If you crank the Blonde Reverb to 10, it will give you that deep, but still usable sound. It just gives you that "oh yeah, I remember that tone" good feeling almost hollow like Tone. I really recommend it. The Jensen vs the Blonde has only been done on a small % of occasions. Like 4 videos and only 2 were side by side. 1 was pretty good, but rushed, the 2nd was meh. You really couldn't hear the differences because of the style of play. I would really encourage you to do that. Because Zac Childs did the other that didn't really compare the 2 at the same time, but was so impressed, he actually bought the Blonde. Yeah, him! But do the comparison with the patch, or not, on the original and the Blonde. You will be even more satisfied with this Tone by far.
Really great instrumental in the beginning of the video. Kind of nice not just just hear an amp with a bunch of nonsense noodling but with an actual, composed song that was that strong. I suddenly found myself imagining driving my car through a desert mountainscape just after a rainstorm... yeah I know- weird- but that's the image that tune evoked for me!
I've had mine for about 4 months now and I am so happy with the sound and performance of this amp. I have the creme colored amp with a Celestion and it really does the job. I have owned vintage and reissue Fender Amps and this lightweight screamer matches them all. I still have my original Blues Deluxe and my Vibro King but the Deluxe goes gigging every week.
Great sounds, Great Post.
Wow, a lot of "Get off my lawn" hate in this comments thread. I think this sounds great. Digital might not be your cup of tea, but you can't deny it's come a long way and in a live setting and/or recording it's going to sound great to the listener. My issue is the feel to the player. I like the feel and feedback a tube amp gives me. They need to work on improving this in the digital realm, if that's even possible.
I've had mine for about three months, ten gigs, and I absolutely love it. It is a bit more crisp than a stock DRRI, but I attribute that to the Neo speaker, which is more similar to my PRRI/JBL E110 and my DRRI/JBL D120 that I've been using for the last fifteen years, so I like it even more than if it sounded exactly like the Jenson. And I can just set the Tone Master DR up and not worry if I read the room right and should have used the Deluxe or the Princeton, I can just use the attenuator at 22W or 12W to get what I want in relation to the drummer and the stage volume. And it sounds fantastic, I don't use pedals so I know.
As an electrical engineer and guitarist I've always been amazed at all the imaginative talk about amplifiers. Frequency is frequency, sound is sound, whether tube or solid-state, digital or analog, most ears can't tell any difference....
Sound is one thing...feel is another
@@bkern123456 What do you feel from sound?
It's fingers and response vs. when the ear hears it come back. Feel.
All digital amps have some kind of latency because there's a computer that is computing and converting, and that takes time vs. analog which is instant response.
I played solid states for a long time before I could afford a tube. Tubes play differently. They have these array of sounds that come very naturally when you play tube versus when you play solid state. My playing changed almost overnight once I played my first tube amp
Brandon Kern - The average listener versus the musician
Great review Rhett. You always have really interesting things to say about gear and a great perspective :)
The Deluxe Reverb Tone Master I brought home the day before yesterday is truly the best amp I've ever owned. I've been playing since 1963. I cannot wait to take 'er out. Your review is right on. Thanks.
I have purchased one of these new Tome Master Deluxe reverbs, and I have to say that I am really enjoying it. It is a very versatile amp, and a do it all amp. You don’t need a small amp anymore, for bedroom volume, and you also have plenty of volume for live gigs. You can also use your volume, to drive your sound, and adjust the over all output with the attenuator. With it’s light weight, and it’s attenuator and line out, it’s a do it all amp, thats a pleasure to use.
Honestly i used a Fender Cyber Deluxe that was pretty money in getting a good tone, and that was like 15 years ago. I think Fender has a pretty nice emulation game that is underappreciated and worth checking out.
The Fender Deluxe Reverb tube amp has been the most recorded amp in history on everything from country to rock from blues to funk and soul and every kind of music that you can think of and no other amp can come close to the Deluxe Reverb on that level. The Deluxe Reverb has been used in live situations since it debut back in the sixties and is still used by major players today. Fender has nailed this sound in a new digital package with new user friendly features making it a very versatile amp for studio or stage. The light weight and portability of this amp will save the backs of many working musicians. This was not designed to do anything but sound like a Deluxe Reverb and it accomplishes that very well. Again, in a live situation there is nobody who will hear the difference between this amp and a Deluxe tube version so these controlled studio demos mean nothing in the real world in which we play in. If you're looking to mimic every amp ever made and every effect ever made then go get yourself a Helix or a Kemper and make yourself happy however, if you are looking for a classic amp that does one thing extremely well then the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb is the amp to buy. I have been playing live shows and studio sessions for a long time and I know what works for me. I have been using this amp since it came out and I am totally satisfied with every aspect of it's performance. The Helix and Kempers are not the be all and end all amp simulators in fact they too sound fake and lack luster in many instances. Only amp snobs, closed minded wanna be's and opinionated block heads are going to stick their noses up about this amp. Get real because we live and play in the real world not somebody's basement studio.
i totally agree , i'm very happy with my tm deluxe too , for some it's to expensive ( i say : then buy yourself a katana/bandit/bluescube/nextone or whatever , these are also nice amps for lower prices but don't sound as good as the tm does , and btw a nextone or bluescube from wich i think are the 2 most decent sounding amps off this range , will also cost you 600-700 euro;s new ) or that it's not "made in " the right country ( i say , who cares as long as it sounds great ) and others are worried that the amp will fail within a few years and there will be no spareparts ( i say : fender has spend 3 years to develop this amp , so one might assume they have thought about this to ).
That tele sounds great through that solid state amp. I usually avoid any modeling type amps, but I’m impressed with the tones.Your playing is great as always.
With The overdriven es guitar it really was easy to detect the non tubishness
I want to hear an ENTIRE song, in relation to that beautiful intro! He makes every instrument he plays, sound like GOLD.
Rhett, I've been using the TM Deluxe Version 1 for a few years now. I upgraded the Firmware to get rid of the Bright Cap and Give the Reverb more room for adjustment. I LOVE the Deluxe TM now!! I play mostly Blues and Classic Rock and it works GREAT for both!! And now in my 59th yr. of performing it really helps my back problems!! LOL! At 23lbs. it's a life changer!! Thanks man, please keep up the Good Work! Love your channel and content! Cheers from Salem, Oh.
If Marshall was smart they would make a bluesbreaker version of this.
i think that all the big well known tube amp builders are looking at this with great attention and will soon follow ( seeing how good they sell and all ) .
Marshall went with the Code series of amps.
Marshall did the JMD:1 in the late 90's, them again with the Code. The JMD is a great buy these days should you find one. Preamp is software, power amp is 2 EL34 tubes plus a tube phase inverter. Like the Code, it's a library of Marshall tones.
@@dochort21 code isn't even close to this quality
and Vox an AC30 version.... with some neodynium blues
Can we just talk about how talented Rhett is? I mean holy shit that intro was mind blowing
Just wanted to say that I really enjoy these gear reviews...9/10 I get more of the info I really care about from your overviews, presented in a manner that is both professional & entertaining ! Thank you very much!
I love your honesty. You don't beat around the bush and why your channel sticks out over other channel reviewers who have hidden agendas to sell and have muted opinions, like Andertons.
EVERYONE should check out the first minute and a half of this video! The intro song is deeply delightful. It starts with delicate notes, gets eerie and haunted, and gets bold and bouncy with a "soaring" solo. I've listened to it 8 times. I love how the bass notes work with some of the same notes as the lead guitar. That cooperation makes for a marvelous song - when the lead seems like flourishes off the bass foundation. Fender has to be happy with this video, too.
The echo and hallow tones towards the end really stood out for me. Really reminds me of Heaven in a delightful way. The many possibilities and the weight are a great touch.
Great review, I’ve had the amp myself for over a week now and yes it is brighter, simple fix is to dial the treble down to about 3.5 to 4 and it sounds balanced and pleasant, over 5 i found it’s a little too bright for my liking. Amp plays well with humbuckers but really shines clean with a Strat or Tele, overdriven sounds are good but not harmonically rich like the real tube Deluxe, a good overdrive pedal will give you a better overdriven tone I found. The Tele with Bigsby sounded wonderful and clear this amp really does shine with single coils and does cleans and edge of breakup damn well, full on breakup not so great. I imagine Fender will release firmware in the future to address issues and improve, there is a USB micro input on the bottom of the electronics case, hard to find but it’s there for future improvements and releases. Also one thing that isn’t mention very often is that on both inputs 1 and 2, on both sides of the amp there is a difference in input 2, it’s a -6 db on input 2 for high output pickups, this kinda mellows the tone if you prefer that sound.
Impressive! Best demo I’ve seen of this thus far. Fender needs to do this for the TWEEDS too!
Lighter 4x10 bassman.... would be sweet.
A friend brought his DRTM over the other day and I was actually surprised at how good and authentic the vibrato sounded.
First timer here. I appreciate your work and musicianship.
Just help me convince my wife that this is something good and much needed for this humble and deserving musician. Also, along with the new Ultra Strat she would have a happy husband in a happy home.
Andre Du Somme As far as the Ultra Strat tell her that Texas Tea is only available on the Ultras and it’s Fender’s best new color in YEARS. Well, that’s of course assuming you’re actually looking at that color. I’ve seen it person and as good as it looks in videos it’s even better in person.
Just tell her this and the ultra are your ticket to the big time. UA-cam is the future. Real modern musicians need real modern gear or they're laughed off of UA-cam, and those who are part of the digital age of music are on their way to 10M monthly views. Luxe all the way from this point forward baby, no more $100 club gigs.
That should do it 4U.
Just tell her you work for your money and you'll buy what you want.
Got the Twin, and it's excellent. My favourite gigging amp and it sounds and feels like a Twin to me.
This was a smart, well thought out, and in formative demonstration of this amp.
It has been my go to live rig for the last year. Strictly using the DI and it is wonderful!
I totally agree,got one last week,used it for gigs during the weekend,perfect
the intro goes hard as hell dude well done i keep coming back to listen
Great review. I just bought one of these and I’m really glad I did after seeing this. I remember playing in a studio 20 years ago and the best amp there was an old twin reverb. It always sounded great, especially when recording. This reminded me so much of it and the price was right.
Once they do this with the Fender Bassman and Marshall Bluesbreaker its game over.
A Bluesbreaker would be sweet. Not betting on Marshall to pull that one off though.
@@funkster007 they have the technology. i use a code 50 at home and it sounds phenomenal. Marshall can model amps well and sell it cheap. will they sell themselves to the devil. thats the question. ...
they should
Fender also has done this Tonemaster digital emulation with the Fender Twin Reverb blackface reissue.
@@jordaneimer2873 I haven't really kept up on the latest modeling amps and gear. But if any of these companies can get close to the classic sounds on a budget, I'm game.👍
I'm onboard for either!
I was impressed enough after trying one out to buy it... I've had it for a month.... fantastic amps..... love my tube amps, but love this one also..
I bought mine today and Ive owned a number of Deluxe Reverbs and I think its great...i have some hardwired tweeds that are killers...being a working musician in sydney clubs, the power scaling is useful, the weight is sensational and i love the sound...the reverb and trem are fine
Bought the DRRI and a month later bought the Twin.... Love them!! Your "review" was spot on!
The Giveaway is now closed! We'll announce a winner on sunday January 12th!
Great video!
Is the giveaway global?
done, and done!
Yes!
Love these videos! Thanks again for the inspiration!
I have a Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb and a DRRI. I find the difference to be precisely what Rhett said. I would say the DRRI is warmer (whereas the TM is a bit brighter) and has a mid thing going on that the Tonemaster doesn’t have. If you’re looking for both amps to sound exactly the same, you won’t get that. But they do both sound superb in my opinion.
I’ve played them side by side quite a bit and I like what I hear from both. When I’m playing just the Tonemaster, I don’t feel like I’m missing something. In fact, I think of how great it sounds and LOVE the fact that I can play it pushed at a reasonable home volume. That’s my #1 reason for owning it.
Glad to hear!
The TM is modelled on a bunch of original Drs, not a reissue fyi
Rhett (Rick's friend Kinch here)! I was BLOWN AWAY when you lifted it. I mean ....amazing for a gigging player, especially ppl with fucked up backs....which is 75% of most gigging musicians!!!!
I bought a Marshall Code 50 for home with the footswitch it lets me emulate almost any Marshall sound, including cabinets, preamp, etc. Great little amp that has enough power to even gig with. And with Bluetooth control, you can run the amp from your phone on the mic stand. The one word I would say is versatility. No it will never scream like a tube amp, but it sure gives it a hell of shot.
If one of those class D amp modules goes it could be tricky to find a replacement, especially a few years down the line. The reason the originals are still going is they are serviceable with simple parts
Like everything else, the busted one ends up in a landfill and you buy a new/better one
They been out now for what , A year now? I have never heard or read anywhere that someone had one that broke, or even required service.. or arrived DOA new, or was making a funny noise.. nothing..
I think this amp is worth checking out. The fact that you can adjust the wattage for a lower volume without losing much tone. Great for low level jamming. Also, you can't beat the weight. Pretty cool. Thanks Rhett!
Dude, that intro his awesome. Please, make a 10 minutes version of it.
They nailed the tone. There isn’t as much compression with the tone master. I love the xlr out and the wattage attenuator
I sold my H&K Grandmeister 40 with all the heavy speaker cabinets for the Fender Deluxe Reverb Tone Master last month and have no regrets. Tested briefly in the shop and was immediately impressed, it does what it should and does it fabulously. It also works well with my pedalboard. I do not regret the exchange and my back thanks me for it. It is a simple but effective workhorse.
Dude. That solo on the Tele was so tasteful.
Calling my DRRI a Honda Civic ruined my whole day.
I don’t know why, but I can’t stop laughing at this comment. Hahaha!
it's true though
Yeah I really dont agree with his statement... but look at all the boutique $$$$$$$ amps this guy has. I can see how he would feel that way.
Yeah I always thought about the Deluxe reverb as a Mercedes or BMW.
Honda Civic would be a Katana.
@@rolux4853 Now you made me feel really good about my katana! :)
Rhett-...I love it...I have the Tone master twin and it has rapidly become my favorite amp!
Luke Robinett I think it is the perfect gig amp. It’s light, has the tone and CPT out with IRs...keep the tube one at home but this thing is loud and is every bit a fender IMO.
I played this in Guitar Center today ! I’m super like, **pinky up about NEEDING a tube amp. Plugged in today and was BLOWN AWAY! Didn’t know it was solid state til after. INCREDIBLE AMP!! BUYING IT TMRW. Honestly nicest thing I’ve ever played on
See here is the GOLD! I know some people love modeling amps and tweaking and tweaking, I just want an analog solid state amp that sounds like a Fender... just give me a Fender that sounds like a Fender. This is great!
Amp manufacturers tried to instill Solid State amps back in the mid to late 70s. Tubes won! Tube Amps will win again. Tubes will always win, hopefully.... :)
Thanks for the video. I thought it sounded best plugged straight in. I agree with you about the reverb on the tube reissue, its usable range is from 1 1/2 to 2 1/2. I find it odd that the worst feature on a "deluxe reverb" is the reverb
Nice amp. But if I want a working man's amp that I can use and abuse, I certainly would not spend $900 for this amp. The working man's solid state around here for decades is the Bandit 112. Good luck beating the tone, reliability, and volume of the Bandit at it's price point. One that real working musicians in the bar/club scene, actually CAN afford. If I want to spend near a grand, I would purchase a tube amp.
This strikes me as the beginning of manufacturer's attempts to use modelling to replace tubes, but still get high dollar for the amps, since tubes are so costly to make and most countries environmental laws have relegated their production mostly to places like China.
Enjoyed the video, as always. Thanks!
I agree 1000 Bucks for a solid state. I can get a Vibrolux Reverb for that price and that’s a great sounding amp. I have a trans tube 112 solid state on my work bench for testing pedal builds and guitars and I would definitely gig with it in a pinch. That being said; I would put any of my tube amps against modeling, the response of a tube amp when driven with a boost or overdrive can’t be matched.
I just bought the Twin Reverb TM amp last night. It is an upgrade from my Princeton 60w 12" speaker. All I can say is WOW - it is so loud and clean and no distortion. I can't wait to play with it more tonite! And I got it off Craig's L. for $650 in pristine condition!
I played one this weekend at Guitar Center right next to a Deluxe Reissue and it blew the Reissue away. People are concerned about it being digital and breaking with only a 2 year warranty, them you just have a box with a Speaker that is useless. To me that could happen to all the Digital/Solid State Amps out today. Oh, by the way we went there for my son to buy an Amp and he was going there to get the Tone Master Super, but they didn't have one, so he bought a used Devilcat Jimmy Head made local here in Georgia. Great Amp!
I disagree in part - i think the DRRI is a very good sounding amp, not just "reliable" und "affordable" to get a job done.
Other than that i fully agree,
I would buy a ToneMaster in a heartbeat if it was significantly cheaper. It is almost the price of a 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb.
Fender should aim more at the $500 range and i`m sure those would sell well.
This is a phoney Fender ad.
@@robertholley4952 what do you mean?
I have a friend who has one. They are impressive for the job you describe. I haven't gone that route because I already have been using Quilters for several years now. A bit different, but the same advantages: the only differences in tones may be a preference, they're lighter, more reliable, LOUD, have a great direct out sound, sound great at any volume.
And...Are less Expensive.
That intro track was very tasty!
Man! That opening song had my goose bumps acting up! Come on make an album with full length versions of all these!
I just bought one, and I did the update for the reverb and I absolutely love this amp
Fender wasn't trying to make it sound like a DRRI. They said brought out their best vintage Deluxe Reverbs from the vault and modeled the TM after those.
What about the peavey bandit? Trans tube technology, they’ve been doing this same thing for years.... great working mans amp and incredible tone
And less than half the price
Marshall produced some " transtube" type amps. I have a rackmount 80 x 80 that has a tube circuit switch in back to cut the simulation in or out. I find this great for live work. It can get frickin loud!
If I never see another guitar with a Bigsby it'll too soon.
Transtube is analog, isn't it? And not meant to simulate anything but a Peavey Transtube amp. I have one and luv it for that.
@@adrianaprhys it’s meant to simulate a tube amp. There are several videos on UA-cam where the bandit was compared to a tube amp and the player couldn’t tell the difference
Vox should just stick their MV50 AC with Nutube in a light-weight AC30 cab, add an attenuator and effects loop, and call it a day.
I'd say the MV50 AC is closer to an AC30 than a Tonemaster is to a Reissue. Vox has the technology to do exactly what fender did, but ANALOG. all they need to do is pull the trigger.
The truth. They do need to figure out how to make a NuTube power valve though.
The amp is great and thanks for the review. I've seen other reviews, yours is best so far. But Rhett - DUDE - the intro composition is just KILLER!
I just bought this amp. A week ago. I am happy with the sound. It makes my old guitar sound like a guitar. It's very loud,
It's definitely a great idea. Investing effort and time into _a single amp model_ will yield much better results than investing the same in a modeller that can simulate 20 amps. And we never use all those amp models anyways. I usually find one I like and stick with that. This is part of the reason why the Catalyst is such a best seller. And this idea of simulating a tube amp is great, if done properly.
The problem with this particular amp is that it's too expensive. But that's my opinion.
@ghost mall From my point of view, considering it's just one amp, it's way too expensive compared to the real thing. If it was like $400-$500 it would have been more appropriate. Just look at the Line 6 Catalyst. Sure, it's not the same quality, but it's multiple amp models and effects.
@@CristiNeagu have you heard the Catalyst in a room? It's horrible. I was impressed by the sounds I heard on UA-cam demos, but man, from up close, the Catalyst is worse than not only a ToneMaster, but a Febder Champion as well...
@@nekkon1989 the catalyst sounds way better than a champion lol.
@@CristiNeagu one reason for the price is that aside from the amp section, it's all built in the USA. We've seen this before..but tube amps are still being made and sold ! not dead yet
@@vincentl.9469 Well, I'd rather buy expensive US built gear than cheap China built gear, even if the quality is the same.
Overall, I'm really curious about the TMDRs. I've played one at a local shop and am seriously considering trading my Carr in for one. It sounds crazy, but my use case is exactly the "Honda Civic Hybrid" example: I need something reliable and easy to use that will get me close enough to a great tone but is easy to live with.
Some other thoughts:
1. Loved your faux wet-dry idea. I also suspect you can fake a dual mic setup by sticking a SM57 on the front and blending in the Royer IR.
2. "Tonemaster" AC30s and Pro Reverbs would be so dope.
I have a Carr Rambler it's lightweight and about as versatile as you can get. What model do you have ?
These do sound great and if Marshall was to do a Bluesbreaker I would definitely buy one!
That first piece, with amazing reverb effect, sent chills down my spine. Nice demo. Made it shine.
Well I was about to say “Back to the future” but then you immediately said it was a solid state modeling amp. Wild.
I bought myself the Tone Master Deluxe. It's a great sounding amp with lots of nice features. Being able to record fantastic tones at home in standby mode is awesome (especially for the neighbours ;). Also there's the firmware updates to make the amp even better. Love it!
Been anxiously waiting for this video since seeing your IG post about it the other day, especially since you commented saying that you would probably go with one of these amps instead of their tube counterparts if you had to get another one. That's saying a lot, I think. I really hope Marshall does a line of amps similar to this. Bluesbreaker combo, anyone?
Take into account that he already owns at least 10 tube amps. That's probably why he might like one solid state amp.
@@jdl2180 He implied that if he had to do it all over again and had to get a version of the Deluxe amp, he would likely choose the Tonemaster. I get what you're saying (despite the fact that he already has kemper and helix non-tube amps in his collection), but his comment made it seem like if he just had to choose one amp, not taking into account the other amps he owns, he'd go with TM. It was just an off-the-cuff instagram comment, though lol.
Those who understand marketing know that if it's too cheap, the perception is "it's not very good".. words to live by.this is a $300-$500 amp at the absolute maximum
It sounds great! But the price point really has to come down! Come on Fender it’s a Chinese made solid state digital amp! I mean you can get a great sounding Fender Champion 100 2x12 for €300. If it does come down I might get one to go along side my valve/tube amp.
To me, this amp's pros are greater than the cons. It's my next purchase. For a working retro country band, it's perfect.
Its almost 1000
Had this for 6 months now and I can tell you its worth every asking penny for it. when you take into account the zero maintenance up keep, the actually tone and features along with the low running noise this thing has it ticks many boxes. Hit the front end with a regular issue Tube screamer and it sounds like heaven. Try one should you get the opportunity, its very good.
What are you talking about? This amp costs about 1,000 bucks!!!!
I just watched this a second time... FAR OUT that intro jam was GOLD! Please turn that into a song!!
The Tone master sounds great.I’m done with amps and pedals, I’ve had the Helix and the Power cab plus about a week, love it.
I must be surrounded by horses, cuz all I hear are nay-sayers!
Remember when everyone was saying that digital photography will NEVER replace film?
The “Tubes Forever” crowd sound just as funny to me right now. You think they won’t capture everything you love about your bestest tube amp in an algorithm? Remember digital photography. They'll capture all that and make it even better...everything but the weight! 🤪 Thank you for the review Rhett!
Tubes forever. FOREVER. Come at me bro
@@bobbyosborne2375 OK il come at you with an in depth knowledge into deep learning AI. With the rate at which perfect simulation software is advancing in more scientific and mathematical ways we are ever closer to perfect. I give it 8 to 10 years and computer simulation will be better than tube or identical to tube. There you go that's an actual researched opinion
@@Owtyg23 NOPE.
@@Owtyg23 AI will NEVER match the warmth of a tube amp. They said the same thing about digital music years ago. Likely before you were born, and guess what? More and more people are switching back to vinyl. Something is lost by going digital. They're good for practicing and for some bands, they're good live. (Metal) But there's a whole other subset of guitar players out there that have to have the warmth and presence of a tube amp. AI will never replace that.
@@bobbyosborne2375 You seem to misunderstand AI can replicate the warmth of tube and it will
As long as there's tubes available I'm sticking with them. I did play the Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb and liked it, but the price isn't worth dropping the tube version. Might be ok for studio, but like I said, I'm sticking with glass.
I would love to try one - as a working musician, its unique feature set combined with Fender tones is a combination that seems pretty hard to beat on everyday gigs, wedding gigs - and even recording a lot of stuff too.
Especially if Fender would make a Tonemaster Tweed amp or something along those lines, I wouldn't think twice about it... or maybe a digital version of their Blues Deluxe amps? I love mine, but I'd love to just put it on my frontloaded bike and - literally - go to town on it!
Mads Bolding it’s perfect for corporate and casino gigs since you can go straight in.
Mads, if you are thinking this route why not get a proper modeler and an FR FR cab? It would give you much more flexibility and be just as easy to transport
But it doesn’t have that Fender tone. It may as well say Boss on the outside. These are very stale, no character or warmth. Tube amps smoke these. Drop your dough on a tube amp.
The stereo demo was absolutely amazing! Reliability on the road is a huge concern with a lot of valve amps - I'm English by the way! - especially older ones, which can be horribly dependent on local power supply.
I recently played the tone master twin. It's amazing. The shop let me play it at full volume - in fact, they encouraged me to - and wow! I'm glad I wasn't planning on more children. That's some serious volume! I kept all the settings and turned the power level down all the way. Instant twin tones at apartment levels. I am planning on purchasing the twin.
I hope the future of amps is more along the lines of a Suhr PT-15.
jim torek true. This is a solid state fender amp. Cheap junk. Sorry. The pT 15 is one of many lightweight tube amps. Has cab sims. Cabinets like a 1x12 aren’t heavy. I would never get a combo anyway anymore.
The back panel on the TMDR is worth price of admission imho, compared to a used DRRI.
Oh my god. These tones are so beautiful. There’s no such thing as too much reverb.
Came back up in my feed. 3 years later and love mine. Updated firmware as soon as I could and never looked back. Have kept my 75 SFDR but never use it now. Really.