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More fun to play as a DD you mean.. expecially when you have free reign over enemy Bb and Ca after taking care of enemy team vision... more balanced and fun for anyone? i don't think so...
@@valnir78 it is pretty balanced, the DD either wastes it time trying to torp stuff or it has to use its guns an expose itself. The vision thing is the whole point of the DD line and they can be countered with hydro, radar, spotter planes, etc. Long time ago, DDs did have free reign. they could stealth shoot because back in the day your guns could shoot futher than your detection range.
@@Bigbacon When there is a CV in ranked and my own Dd suicide in the first 3 min, at least i still have a chance to recover.. Without anymore vision, is gg already. Expecially if you are in a BB or non radar cruiser.
@@Bigbacon agreed. I thought cv spotting at least would be gone by Jan Feb since they have supposedly been working on it since this time last year but nope.
I think every time you play on cis you should put some text like "lesta gameplay" in the corner cus it would be nice to instantly tell the 2 versions apart
@@martinsomething304that’s the Russian server. The company split because of the war in Ukraine so now we have 2 independant world of warships doing their own things
There are situations where u have a rough time as a torpedo boat. Too many hydro´s, a DD who spots consistently your torps, kiting BB´s, good use of islands,... Dodging torps is way easier than running away from a HE spammer. Just compare the average dmg output of the best 5% Torp DD´s Shima: 73k Yueyang: 88k Halland: 75k Gun Boats: Sherman: 104k Gdansk: 108k Kleber: 101k Lushun: 102k Marceau: 88k Ragnar: 120k I mean they are more constistent^^
@@charleslynch340 oh wow. Someone who doesn't know you can switch flanks. Exactly the kind of response i expected and reaffirming my point: If the enemy turning away completely shatters your impact and game plan then you're not doing it right.
That fact that a tiny DD can bully cruisers and BB with such impunity is simply disgusting... nonsense mechanics like "overpen" and "saturation" must go away..
You have more of a point about saturation maybe as this is a more ‘artificial’ arcade mechanic, but you’re wrong about overpens. That’s a pretty integral (and mind you realistic) way to balance large calibre guns. This game is basically more complicated rock, paper, scissors. It would be equally broken if large calibre shells could not only smash through massive armour, but also perfectly detonate inside DDs for example
@@OElitecorp I think player skills like dodging and manuvering should be the real "defence" of a DD, considering also how difficult already is for most BB to score consistent hits on them from afar. But seeing a DD bulling also cruisers (supposed to counter them), and force it to run away is simply unbalanced and unrealistic.
@ from my POV the way to counter this is with team play and proper focussing. I think that if you play a ship properly (I.e. using its strengths) and the enemy team don’t play properly against you, you should be able to absolutely dominate. You see in games where even reasonably positioned open water gun boats have a hard time because teams properly switch fire to overwhelm them. 1v1 a BB should struggle against a DD. DDs have always been the main counter to BBs in this game. Light cruisers do the exact same to DDs. Don’t get me wrong, I fully agree that it’s super frustrating to play against and maybe there’s some numbers changing to do, I just don’t think fundamental game mechanics need to change to fix the problem
@@OElitecorp In bigger 12 vs 12 games, i would agree about teamplay and focus fire, but in smaller games like ranked, a good DD can singlehanded take out Bb and even cruiser with ease once there is no more opposisiton from enemy DD... And again, a tiny ships shooting head on BB and CA without fear of being punished shouldn't be normalized.
Playing on the CIS server this ranked season as they've banned subs and CVs from all ranked (bronze, silver & gold), so it's a LOT more fun to play.
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wish the other servers would do this.
More fun to play as a DD you mean.. expecially when you have free reign over enemy Bb and Ca after taking care of enemy team vision... more balanced and fun for anyone? i don't think so...
@@valnir78 it is pretty balanced, the DD either wastes it time trying to torp stuff or it has to use its guns an expose itself. The vision thing is the whole point of the DD line and they can be countered with hydro, radar, spotter planes, etc.
Long time ago, DDs did have free reign. they could stealth shoot because back in the day your guns could shoot futher than your detection range.
@@Bigbacon When there is a CV in ranked and my own Dd suicide in the first 3 min, at least i still have a chance to recover..
Without anymore vision, is gg already.
Expecially if you are in a BB or non radar cruiser.
Thats how EVERY ranked game should be, no CV no sub.
No, this is how EVERY game should be.
@@Bigbacon agreed. I thought cv spotting at least would be gone by Jan Feb since they have supposedly been working on it since this time last year but nope.
GOD the takahashi is sad
that was a depressing exchange
Flamu's team is speedrunning ranked as well, just in the opposite direction
Edit: nvm, there was actual teamplay later wow
I love the shocked reaction to actual teamplay in this game
I enjoyed your commentary, it helps to learn your thought process
I think every time you play on cis you should put some text like "lesta gameplay" in the corner cus it would be nice to instantly tell the 2 versions apart
that wasn`t a compliment. rupprech named you a mutton in russian.
lmfao never been called that before, honored to be called that by a German BB that inted himself in 6 minutes flat
@@Flamuuwhat would you expect from a green player
yes.. .when asking flamu to go dark
if this is about 1st game, the Rup was flaming about you shooting.
26:53 am i blind or is the torpedo exploding at the rupprecht without causing damage? No, it ca't be. The game is bug-free!
I love these long videos
Its good to see some french DD in action with exellent play.
Are these lesta only sounds? The gun sounds are weeeeird
are you running a sound mod? my guns don't sound like that.
does constantly changing the ships speed like that screw up the secondaries firing at you?
Yes
Yeah, they automatically lead where you're going, so playing with the accel and rudder throws them off quite a bit
Name of mod that can see captain build in-match?
gun DDs are stupidly broken. Playing kita, just got out of a game where I got 150k damage, no torp hits
Are you running a gun sound mod ?
Flamu how did you made the game English? Pls help.
Nice game, btw whats your chair flamuu?
what's the gun sound mod ?
Lesta changed gun sound for low caliber guns
@@Leanginc ah it's Lesta, should have known, WG is absolute dogshit cant even update the game
@@Leanginc Damn I looked for the mod in Aslain's Mods. Then decided to look for more comments. Of course it's Lesta...
Damn, haven't played in about 3 years, so what have I missed?
nothing, things got even worse.
This gamer is a beast man, I mean why the fuck would you watch any other streamer when there is this fucking guy?
How are you playing tier 9 ranked? Its 8 then 9-10 😮
CIS server is 6-7, 8-9 and 9-10 ranked, and they banned Subs and CVs from all leagues so I'm playing ranked there this season.
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@@FlamuuMaybe creating a sedond account for Lesta might be the way to dodge the subs and cv. I bet it‘s much more enjoyable that way
@@Flamuudont know what CIS server is but sounds like a dream
@@martinsomething304that’s the Russian server. The company split because of the war in Ukraine so now we have 2 independant world of warships doing their own things
11:45 Goes both ways. If you tell me that torp boats are inconsistent then you're just telling me that you don't know what to do with them.
what are you on about, put yourself on a flank where the enemy is kiting, what are your torpedoes gonna do? Wave from 10km behind the enemy ships?
There are situations where u have a rough time as a torpedo boat. Too many hydro´s, a DD who spots consistently your torps, kiting BB´s, good use of islands,...
Dodging torps is way easier than running away from a HE spammer.
Just compare the average dmg output of the best 5%
Torp DD´s
Shima: 73k
Yueyang: 88k
Halland: 75k
Gun Boats:
Sherman: 104k
Gdansk: 108k
Kleber: 101k
Lushun: 102k
Marceau: 88k
Ragnar: 120k
I mean they are more constistent^^
@@charleslynch340 oh wow. Someone who doesn't know you can switch flanks. Exactly the kind of response i expected and reaffirming my point:
If the enemy turning away completely shatters your impact and game plan then you're not doing it right.
@@meinacco Yeah but it means your flank is going to be useless without any spotting that a gunboat could provide, just stupid arguments all around
@@meinacco just leave the people on your initial flank without good and consistent spotting, sounds like a great idea
That fact that a tiny DD can bully cruisers and BB with such impunity is simply disgusting... nonsense mechanics like "overpen" and "saturation" must go away..
You have more of a point about saturation maybe as this is a more ‘artificial’ arcade mechanic, but you’re wrong about overpens. That’s a pretty integral (and mind you realistic) way to balance large calibre guns. This game is basically more complicated rock, paper, scissors. It would be equally broken if large calibre shells could not only smash through massive armour, but also perfectly detonate inside DDs for example
@@OElitecorp I think player skills like dodging and manuvering should be the real "defence" of a DD, considering also how difficult already is for most BB to score consistent hits on them from afar.
But seeing a DD bulling also cruisers (supposed to counter them), and force it to run away is simply unbalanced and unrealistic.
@ from my POV the way to counter this is with team play and proper focussing. I think that if you play a ship properly (I.e. using its strengths) and the enemy team don’t play properly against you, you should be able to absolutely dominate. You see in games where even reasonably positioned open water gun boats have a hard time because teams properly switch fire to overwhelm them. 1v1 a BB should struggle against a DD. DDs have always been the main counter to BBs in this game. Light cruisers do the exact same to DDs. Don’t get me wrong, I fully agree that it’s super frustrating to play against and maybe there’s some numbers changing to do, I just don’t think fundamental game mechanics need to change to fix the problem
@@OElitecorp In bigger 12 vs 12 games, i would agree about teamplay and focus fire, but in smaller games like ranked, a good DD can singlehanded take out Bb and even cruiser with ease once there is no more opposisiton from enemy DD...
And again, a tiny ships shooting head on BB and CA without fear of being punished shouldn't be normalized.
That's exactly what a main BB player would say xD
Ha! First