Video should be titled "Park bunny discovers all mountain boards" 😂. I only owned one park board.... My first board in 2002. Since then I've always used all mountain/directional or custom powder board with rocker in the nose. Great video Tae!
I used to only ride twins and I do still prefer them for normal activities. I was very against directional actually. I bought a directional twin this year though with about 1.5CM set back in the certs. Nose has more lift but camber is from point to point. It's a mild directional and it's a good addition to my quiver. I like riding switch as much as I can but aftwr getting my directional twin I wanna now get something like this to add as well. I love bombing irresponsibly fast almost as much as I love park. If you have the $ I think it's a good investment, but my heart is more geared towards (and if I didn't have the money for more than 1 board) something like the beast instead. Last year if you asked me this I would had said f no, nope, not doing it😂🤷♂️ FWIW I live in Maine. This would be a special occasion board. Likely keeping edges super sharp and stay off the rails, but who knows.
been riding a 160 alternator for a few days now and I love it so far. I had the same reaction as you when I started euro carving down a steep groomer first run ("whooo!"). No heel chatter, no slipping out, you can really grip it and rip it. It's NOT my first directional board by any means, it just carves so well! Feels good in the air, makes tweaking nose grabs and methods really fun. haven't hit any rails yet but if I can do most the tricks I really like doing on my 173 nitro cannon, (front lips, front boards, weird boardslide to grab combos) then I'm sure the alternator will be good enough for my needs in the park
So fun to watch! So live and close". Great to watch once a month as winter-warm-up! Getting closer to buying the alternator every week now :) Cant wait for all good vids coming this winter!
A great video, I'm actually considering choosing Team or alternator, I'm using Directional now, I think alternators are interesting, and the 2425 alternator is beautiful.
Even for pure park it's fun sometimes to have a difference between your nose and tail. You can get a little more creative as your switch tricks hit little different than your regular.
Second year snowboarding, 40yo, and man, this video was one of the best I ever saw! Really fascinating. Currently I have a yes Hel yes (agressif hybrid directional), and I was wondering what would be my next step. For sure will be a directional full camber ❤ I just would like to have a option like that for girls board, I'm a light men (5'8" us 7.5, 138pounds)
I dont ride twin since 2003 when I got my first directional freeride deck. Been riding directional deck since. Fun story, at first back then, I tried to center the binding and the board was behaving very strangely, until I mounted the binding the correct way (reference setback).
Thanks for doing this comparison vid! I just picked up an Alternator and I can’t wait to ride it. Funny enough, I’m also very curious about the Team Pro and looking for a park replacement to my Ride Algorhythm. Do you have any experience on that board? If so, would you recommend the change?
Awesome! You will love it🙌🏻 I used to ride Ride snowboards, I used the Helix for 2 years. And I believe the team and team pro are better in every way than those boards. The team pro is my favourite board, that said the normal team is maybe more fun to shred. A bit less intense. I but both boards will hold an edge and do what you want them too. Team pro will take a bit longer f extra effort tho haha
Even David gogings would be screaming like that, no joke tearing the cheeks is unbelievably painful! If you don’t believe then you are blessed enough to not have experienced it yourself 😂
Great video! Thank you! I've been riding the Lib Tech Travis Rice Pro for many years now and is what I learned on. Looking to take the next step with a new board, and this video pretty much sealed it for me. Any advice between the Nitro Alternator v. Nitro Banker?
stoked we could help! We haven't tried the banker, but it goes hard as well. I'd say if you are planning on shredding park go for the Alternator, but if you are looking for a bit more play out of your board on the mountain the baker is a good choice. Both are awesome boards that you will enjoy!
I want both this season. Well the alternater & not the team pro but the nitro beast. I'm on the east coast, most my terrain is groomers and sometimes it does get a bit icey. I'm hoping I can find a deal on the alternater cause I know I won't use it much but I always go when it storms and it would be a blast then. Beast for all other functions 😌😌 I've always had twin boards and I do have directional twin, but not even close to the alternater. 155 beast And either 157 or 160 for alternater. I've never had anything bigger than 157 so I'm a bit worry about going bigger.
@SnowboardAddiction awesome bro!🤙 Yeah, I should prob stick with the 157. Im 5 8" but lift regularly so I'm 170ish. I've backed off of upper body a bit. The thing I like about a smaller board is the response. I love that "looser" feeling I skated for years with short WB decks & super loose indy trucks so that's probably why I like that 😅 but I also kinda have a wide stance at 23.75" so with the tail on the alt. Being shorter I thought MAYBE I'd benefit from the 160. Wish I could try before I buy. That would be great! 😆😆
As far as I know, the team has inch more on the noise but that’s all. Other then that it’s exactly the same. A directions bored in my opinion means it is different from one end to the other and is set back a good amount. If it can be confused for true twin it is true twin in my books haha
@@SnowboardingExplainedThe nose of Team is wider and softer than the tail, so it’s already not a true twin. Setback is not big, but it’s present. True twin boards don’t have such things
I don’t believe in defining snowboards. Spent a few laps carving your board and the edges will be ready. DTuning is mostly just used for street, or airbags:)
As Taevis said, Detuning isn't done too much, if you are really worried about edge catches, get an edge tool that lets you angle your edge at 88°, that's what a lot of the pros do. we do have a video made on this here: www.addictionplus.tv/courses/take/Tuning/lessons/44694339-how-to-de-tune-your-snowboard
@@SnowboardAddiction wow, that's brave, so you have no fear of catching on any rails in the park without beveling or filing down edges? Why only do it for street? Just asking becaue i'm deciding between a rocker camber vs a camrock board as my park board. Thanks again!
I am not sure where my comment went, it looks like it got deleted or something but, in case someone else is wondering the outfit Taevis is wearing it the Tolasmik TK PRO+
What size is the Alternator in this video? And what's his shoe size and weight? The board looks a bit small to me, maybe 'cause I'm old school, I don't know. When I follow the recommendations for sizing I tend to end up with something that feels and looks a bit like a kids board...
Nope, you go around the binding but your hand needs to come back to inside the bindings for it to count. Sometimes people let it slide on like a super corked 7, but that’s it.
@ Bs 5 Craig was my signature trick back in the day lol. I always thought it was like skating where u grab just below the nose but, after some research I can confirm it’s more proper to grab the nose on a snowboard 😅
Crash pants actually do basically nothing at this kind of impact. I used to rock them but they would tear on slams like this, so then I’m just hurt and down cash haha They are better for when your learning and your impacts are small and targeted towards your tail bone.
@@SnowboardingExplained Yeah taking the impact when fallin L/XL jumps would need few air mattresses or so. But still despite I've ridden since the 90's feeling pretty competent I never ride without pants. In the end they take significant amount of pain away even from harder slams. Probably have saved my tail from at least couple of fractures too. I figured since I don't notice them while riding why not wear them all the time.
In my experience the advantages of an all mountain board are all true… until you ride switch in any significant amount. I really notice that all the tech that improves carves going regular are also degrading the craves going switch. You really notice it if you do full runs switch and not just 3-4 turns here and there. I may be an outlier, riding switch maybe 35-40% of the time. How about the reverse video? “You can ride twin in pow”
Taevis has been using Twins in Pow his whole life haha. Taevis did a bunch of switch park laps without any trouble, we give this board the switch riding seal of Approval :)
I got a ride shadowban and an evil twin. Unless I'm being a park rat the whole day the shadowban is just so much more fun and versatile to rip around in any condition and even fun for a few park laps....Though the shadowban is a directional twin so it is a bit cheating lol.
We dont use flying v typish profile on highest level meanwhile Chase Blackwell never summer proto synthesis literally never summers version of flying v in pipe not that long ago chris corning in big air.... U should have said not we dont use u should have said that full camber or almost full camber is now most popular. Also congrats on sick 1080
Look at the best riders are doing. Do not fallow Chris cornings vibes, it’s the same as saying you should use a wide stance because Shaun white does. Just does not apply to the standard in snowboarding.
We back Taevis on this. If you want more power out of your snowboard, full Camber is the best choice. Watch any snowboard contest and you will see this to be the case:)
sick skills. credit to all the work that's put in. he could shred the mountain on a coffee table if he wanted to
Video should be titled "Park bunny discovers all mountain boards" 😂. I only owned one park board.... My first board in 2002. Since then I've always used all mountain/directional or custom powder board with rocker in the nose. Great video Tae!
Actually tho😂 definitely gonna be having a directional board in my bag from now on!
@@SnowboardingExplainedhow much do you weigh and what length did you ride the alternator in?
You’re riding is sick my man 😎
Valid video my favourite part is when he falls on the front 10 and then gets back up and does it the next lap good job man ❤
Thanks dude!!! Definitely not gonna make a habit of doing that though 😂
I ride in the midwest. Never giving up my twin.
I live in Tahoe and I only ride twins 🤷♂️
I used to only ride twins and I do still prefer them for normal activities. I was very against directional actually. I bought a directional twin this year though with about 1.5CM set back in the certs. Nose has more lift but camber is from point to point. It's a mild directional and it's a good addition to my quiver. I like riding switch as much as I can but aftwr getting my directional twin I wanna now get something like this to add as well. I love bombing irresponsibly fast almost as much as I love park. If you have the $ I think it's a good investment, but my heart is more geared towards (and if I didn't have the money for more than 1 board) something like the beast instead.
Last year if you asked me this I would had said f no, nope, not doing it😂🤷♂️
FWIW I live in Maine. This would be a special occasion board. Likely keeping edges super sharp and stay off the rails, but who knows.
I will always and I repeat ALWAYS be against rocker or any damn banana board😂 no need for that nonsense
I have a twin for park and a directional for powder :D I live next to the lift, I can switch easily haha
been riding a 160 alternator for a few days now and I love it so far. I had the same reaction as you when I started euro carving down a steep groomer first run ("whooo!"). No heel chatter, no slipping out, you can really grip it and rip it. It's NOT my first directional board by any means, it just carves so well! Feels good in the air, makes tweaking nose grabs and methods really fun. haven't hit any rails yet but if I can do most the tricks I really like doing on my 173 nitro cannon, (front lips, front boards, weird boardslide to grab combos) then I'm sure the alternator will be good enough for my needs in the park
That’s sick! Thanks for sharing 🙌🏻
If there was anyone I'd follow around the mountain trying to learn it'd be this dude!!
me tooooo
Dude sounds like a put together-chill Daxflame and rips like a champ. Didnt expect to be so entertained ahah. Great video. Props to camera team too.
🙏🏻
I ride a directional board as it gave me a good excuse for not being able to ride switch....until I watched this video...😄
This felt so live lol. Bravo👏 and thanks for the intel!
You're so welcome!
So fun to watch! So live and close". Great to watch once a month as winter-warm-up! Getting closer to buying the alternator every week now :) Cant wait for all good vids coming this winter!
That’s awesome!!! Thanks for the support😁
yeah Sean super stalked to see you in a review was just random clicking for breaky. Good session in the uluwatu bowl !
True twin is the only type I make sure to have at least one of ready to go each season
Just the content I’ve been waiting for, thanks guys! Actually have the alternator, couldn’t ask more from a board
Great to hear!
Such a fun video, sick first 10 of the season!
Glad you enjoed it!!!
Like this guy, informative tips
Really informative and super entertaining video Tae. Awesome
Glad you enjoyed it😁
Got the 162W alternator. Set the bindings back one set for powder. If you ride it fast it really flies through the powder…
Dude, you are fun to watch!
Appreciate the love! 🙏
arguably the definition is simply evolving, does this mean that a certain style is dead? nah, but some super cool developments!!
keep stoke
\m/
imo a tweaked true tail 360 (either side) can be a pretty sweet single-hand outside the bindings
A great video, I'm actually considering choosing Team or alternator, I'm using Directional now, I think alternators are interesting, and the 2425 alternator is beautiful.
This video was helpful for me. Thanks
Great content as always!
Even for pure park it's fun sometimes to have a difference between your nose and tail. You can get a little more creative as your switch tricks hit little different than your regular.
Second year snowboarding, 40yo, and man, this video was one of the best I ever saw! Really fascinating. Currently I have a yes Hel yes (agressif hybrid directional), and I was wondering what would be my next step. For sure will be a directional full camber ❤
I just would like to have a option like that for girls board, I'm a light men (5'8" us 7.5, 138pounds)
Check out the Nitro Snowboards lineup they have some great options!
After watching this I feel like if you give this guy any plank of wood, he'd still be able to land switch 5s on the pro line in the park on it :D
Damn you just spoiled our next video! ;)
Zeb Powell on his 210 swallowtail riding switch in the park 💀
I think people do stress too much about it
I dont ride twin since 2003 when I got my first directional freeride deck. Been riding directional deck since.
Fun story, at first back then, I tried to center the binding and the board was behaving very strangely, until I mounted the binding the correct way (reference setback).
Really depends on what kind of riding you are doing! Glad you found a setup that's right for you!
Thanks for doing this comparison vid! I just picked up an Alternator and I can’t wait to ride it. Funny enough, I’m also very curious about the Team Pro and looking for a park replacement to my Ride Algorhythm. Do you have any experience on that board? If so, would you recommend the change?
Awesome! You will love it🙌🏻
I used to ride Ride snowboards, I used the Helix for 2 years. And I believe the team and team pro are better in every way than those boards.
The team pro is my favourite board, that said the normal team is maybe more fun to shred. A bit less intense.
I but both boards will hold an edge and do what you want them too.
Team pro will take a bit longer f extra effort tho haha
What kind of training do you do to avoid screaming FUUU** on camera? Love this vid. I’ve been debating twin vs directional for a minute now.
Even David gogings would be screaming like that, no joke tearing the cheeks is unbelievably painful!
If you don’t believe then you are blessed enough to not have experienced it yourself 😂
Hey mate
What size board do you ride ?
How tall are you ?
Sick riding mate
160 CM 6 feet tall
@@SnowboardAddiction thanks
What size do you recommend for someone 5,8
I ride in the midwest. Never giving up my twin.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ride kink for 2 seasons, just got a lobster creamer. Oh was it ever creamy!! Directional twin has impressed me. Still love my Tru twin
Its nice to see a reviewer who ACTUALLY rips. All these guys who just ride groomers should not be reviewing
Great video! Thank you! I've been riding the Lib Tech Travis Rice Pro for many years now and is what I learned on. Looking to take the next step with a new board, and this video pretty much sealed it for me. Any advice between the Nitro Alternator v. Nitro Banker?
stoked we could help! We haven't tried the banker, but it goes hard as well.
I'd say if you are planning on shredding park go for the Alternator, but if you are looking for a bit more play out of your board on the mountain the baker is a good choice.
Both are awesome boards that you will enjoy!
@@SnowboardAddiction thank you for the reply! Subscribed and looking forward to more of your videos!
Yoo what would you suggest the nitro alternator or the capita aeronaut I’m really stuck in my decision!
Alternator anyday!
@snowboardaddiction what is your stance width and angles on Team Pro?
I don’t know the numbers, but I’m reference stance with -9 +12
Should be around 22 to 23 inches in width
I want both this season. Well the alternater & not the team pro but the nitro beast.
I'm on the east coast, most my terrain is groomers and sometimes it does get a bit icey. I'm hoping I can find a deal on the alternater cause I know I won't use it much but I always go when it storms and it would be a blast then. Beast for all other functions 😌😌
I've always had twin boards and I do have directional twin, but not even close to the alternater.
155 beast
And either 157 or 160 for alternater. I've never had anything bigger than 157 so I'm a bit worry about going bigger.
That’s gonna be the program I’m on next year! I’m 6 foot 165 pounds and I rock the 160 alternator
@SnowboardAddiction awesome bro!🤙
Yeah, I should prob stick with the 157. Im 5 8" but lift regularly so I'm 170ish. I've backed off of upper body a bit. The thing I like about a smaller board is the response. I love that "looser" feeling I skated for years with short WB decks & super loose indy trucks so that's probably why I like that 😅 but I also kinda have a wide stance at 23.75" so with the tail on the alt. Being shorter I thought MAYBE I'd benefit from the 160.
Wish I could try before I buy. That would be great! 😆😆
Need to get him on a twinpig or yes greats unic, or a lago double barrel.
How come you’ve never ridden Directional Twin before, if there are videos of you riding Nitro Team(not PRO version), which is exactly Directional Twin
As far as I know, the team has inch more on the noise but that’s all. Other then that it’s exactly the same.
A directions bored in my opinion means it is different from one end to the other and is set back a good amount.
If it can be confused for true twin it is true twin in my books haha
@@SnowboardingExplainedThe nose of Team is wider and softer than the tail, so it’s already not a true twin. Setback is not big, but it’s present. True twin boards don’t have such things
@@НикитаСадовников-ю8юCan’t say I ever noticed, I wouldn’t bother factoring that in honestly haha
@@SnowboardingExplainedisn’t that a bit shortsighted for someone who is a coach, and representing a big brand like SnowboardAddiction?
@@woutvanhorenbeek2694 don’t fret, If there is something important that will impact people’s riding it won’t be neglected ✌️
Can you guys make a new video on detuning nem board pleaseeee 🙏
I don’t believe in defining snowboards. Spent a few laps carving your board and the edges will be ready.
DTuning is mostly just used for street, or airbags:)
As Taevis said, Detuning isn't done too much, if you are really worried about edge catches, get an edge tool that lets you angle your edge at 88°, that's what a lot of the pros do. we do have a video made on this here: www.addictionplus.tv/courses/take/Tuning/lessons/44694339-how-to-de-tune-your-snowboard
@@SnowboardingExplainedawesome mate!! Thanks heaps for coming back to me!
@@SnowboardAddictionunderstood guys! Will follow his advice but will also check your vid! Thanks again!
Taevis has the juiciest kits in the game...hands down!
how do you detune your camber boards to use on rails? Rounding your edges, or would a base bevel suffice? Thanks.
I don’t do anything to my edges, just carve for a few laps! I only dull my edges for street riding.
@@SnowboardAddiction wow, that's brave, so you have no fear of catching on any rails in the park without beveling or filing down edges? Why only do it for street? Just asking becaue i'm deciding between a rocker camber vs a camrock board as my park board. Thanks again!
wow! crazy good... how stiff is the team pro relative to a custom or custom x? thanks!
Super relative to the custom, it's pretty much nitros custom.
If you like the Custom the team pro would hit all the same points.
I am not sure where my comment went, it looks like it got deleted or something but, in case someone else is wondering the outfit Taevis is wearing it the Tolasmik TK PRO+
Its the Tolasmik collab with snowears!
What size is the Alternator in this video? And what's his shoe size and weight? The board looks a bit small to me, maybe 'cause I'm old school, I don't know. When I follow the recommendations for sizing I tend to end up with something that feels and looks a bit like a kids board...
160cm 6 foot 165 pounds. Fits perfect to me! 8.5 feet size
@@SnowboardAddiction Thanks! I might give it a try
Were you able to try the aeronaut? How does it compare to the alternator?
Not yet! Maybe Nitro will send us one next year:)
I always ride with protective shorts to keep my cheeks safe :D
Good call!
Really this video should be all about riding switch… the directional should ride just as good forward as the twin otherwise they’re really fucking up
Next time!
Would the alternator do well as a powder focused board in a 2 board quiver with a true twin park board?
100% it’s the main go to pow board of many top riders! Super wide noise so it crushes pow and chop.
im saying like what about nose grab or tail grab. Thats out side the bindings ?
Also I definitely count the pretzel out. You gotta consider the equipment. slight more margin for error and barelysluffed.
We count those of course!
tindy @ scott.
Can you test out the cam-out camber by nitro? Been contemplating buying the nitro dropout
If we can get out hands on one we will!
How does the team pro compare to the beast?
Never tried the beast so we really aren’t qualified to say sadly.
what about japan grab? you can also catch out side of the bindings
Nope, you go around the binding but your hand needs to come back to inside the bindings for it to count.
Sometimes people let it slide on like a super corked 7, but that’s it.
Crail is not okay to grab not between bindings!????
Sometimes haha
@ Bs 5 Craig was my signature trick back in the day lol. I always thought it was like skating where u grab just below the nose but, after some research I can confirm it’s more proper to grab the nose on a snowboard 😅
21:30 literally sounded like a helicopter on that 10😅
I need only ultrawide (30 cm waist) true twin or dir.twin snowboard. Nobody makes it, except Donek
Donek makes great boards. Ive has my phoenix for 10 years it still rips.
There is the freighter from Douk now.
That would definitely not go as well in the park haha, tho maybe we will need to test that theory out💪
Hey dude wear crash pants and you don't have to take the pain or at least much less of it 🙂
Crash pants actually do basically nothing at this kind of impact.
I used to rock them but they would tear on slams like this, so then I’m just hurt and down cash haha
They are better for when your learning and your impacts are small and targeted towards your tail bone.
🤣
@@SnowboardingExplained Yeah taking the impact when fallin L/XL jumps would need few air mattresses or so. But still despite I've ridden since the 90's feeling pretty competent I never ride without pants. In the end they take significant amount of pain away even from harder slams. Probably have saved my tail from at least couple of fractures too. I figured since I don't notice them while riding why not wear them all the time.
@@pjk-ripsFor sure! Any way you can minimize injury you extend your season so I back them.
Really good especially if learning to carve or rails haha
In my experience the advantages of an all mountain board are all true… until you ride switch in any significant amount. I really notice that all the tech that improves carves going regular are also degrading the craves going switch. You really notice it if you do full runs switch and not just 3-4 turns here and there. I may be an outlier, riding switch maybe 35-40% of the time.
How about the reverse video? “You can ride twin in pow”
Taevis has been using Twins in Pow his whole life haha.
Taevis did a bunch of switch park laps without any trouble, we give this board the switch riding seal of Approval :)
What brand is your coat and pants
Tolasmik from snowears
Rome Party Mod wide does everything with style
Nitro santoku review maybe?
I’d try any of their boards at this point, I’ve been stoked!
I got a ride shadowban and an evil twin. Unless I'm being a park rat the whole day the shadowban is just so much more fun and versatile to rip around in any condition and even fun for a few park laps....Though the shadowban is a directional twin so it is a bit cheating lol.
Both excellent boards! :)
The team pro still is a directional twin with a longer nose than tail
By 1 inch, we don’t count that
Hot take, rocker snowboards are the worst thing to ever happen to snowboarding. Preach that traditional camber gospel!
Pretzel counted
We dont use flying v typish profile on highest level meanwhile Chase Blackwell never summer proto synthesis literally never summers version of flying v in pipe not that long ago chris corning in big air.... U should have said not we dont use u should have said that full camber or almost full camber is now most popular. Also congrats on sick 1080
Also most if not all T Rice’s boards are C2X camber, which is the same idea as the flying V.
Look at the best riders are doing. Do not fallow Chris cornings vibes, it’s the same as saying you should use a wide stance because Shaun white does.
Just does not apply to the standard in snowboarding.
@@jacobdisiouxhe doesn’t ride much besides pow so it’s much more flexible.
Well full camber has always been the most popular among pros and it's most likely going to stay that way too.
We back Taevis on this.
If you want more power out of your snowboard, full Camber is the best choice.
Watch any snowboard contest and you will see this to be the case:)
Imo more people should be on directional, realistically how much are you actually riding switch?
Even when riding switch it’s not a massive factor, so it’s definitely worth looking into:)
please what pants are those!!!??
it's the Tolasmik Collab with Snowears
@@SnowboardAddiction thank you!!
I doubt that's the hardest you've ever tore your cheeks Taevis.
Still scarred, legit permanent damage haha
Don’t grab method outside the bindings please
Nicolas Müller disagrees ua-cam.com/video/hUSpw-G8kyI/v-deo.htmlsi=7l0w9QMPxh0cpa5u&t=150
Your tripping haha
I had a twin in chest deep pow... i hated it.
Depends on what twin it is, some are absolute killer in the pow!
Man, Nitro Team Pro is a Directional twin board
Very slightly, all boards have an extra inch on the noise nowadays. We talk about this in the video:)
Tearing cheeks 😭
Twin board 4 ever. I hate directional boards. I’m sorry.
Both have their pro's and con's nothing rides powder like a directional!
You ride whistler and never been on a directional board?? Get out of the pink…I mean park
But Taevis loves the park..
Get on a swallowtail on a pow day. Night and day difference.
Just need that deep powder to go with it!
Looks like Nitro copied the Sims Nub
Both great, directional full camber boards! - unfortuntately you can't patent that 😅
@@SnowboardAddiction Are the contact points the same on the Alternator? (eg. its just a long nosed twin)
Team pro is not a true twin.
It’s so close no one would ever notice it isn’t, because taevis sure didn’t haha