Philippe Jaroussky: Ecco l'atra palude (Monteverdi)

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • An arioso sung by La Speranza (Hope) in the opera L'Orfeo.
    Philippe Jaroussky, Jean-Claude Malgoire & Le Grande Ecurie et la Chambre du Roy.

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  • @Royalbrettania
    @Royalbrettania 14 років тому +1

    I will never cease to be amazed and alarmed at the amount of hatred and bigotry to be found in the comments on youtube....you would think that people listening to classical music would have more class..... disgusting really.......this guy is incredible....you don't need a phd in music or whatever to know this.....just a functioning ear drum and a modicum of soul and respect....

  • @saiserieht
    @saiserieht 14 років тому +1

    no he is not, it is just the timbre that gives the expression. the incomplete closure of the vocal folds used in falsetto gives a fundamental resonance that sounds feminin

  • @vitellia
    @vitellia 15 років тому +1

    Not his best performance. Some really rocky notes, not at all helped by some oddly insecure ornaments. I really prefer more declamatory, dramatic rendition of this part, like Sonia Prina. I suppose it really depends on the concept of "La Speranza".

  • @GrlLeastLikelyTo
    @GrlLeastLikelyTo 17 років тому +1

    I have no objection whatsoever to gayness. People often attempt to use it as an insult, which is completely ridiculous as there is nothing shameful about being gay.

  • @civileso
    @civileso 17 років тому +1

    I don't really think he imitates Scholl.Jaroussky has a naturally beautiful, pure and clear voice, but he lacks originality.. Then again he is very young. But no body is as unique as Scholl or sounds anything like him, whether imitated or not...

  • @Garpinator
    @Garpinator 14 років тому +1

    Interesting recording that you reference. If that is a falsetto as that video would demonstrate, it's the best falsetto I've ever heard.

  • @Ajiisai
    @Ajiisai 11 років тому +5

    He's amazing! He's in Moskow tonight, and this evening was totally incredible! My mother and I happy. And more: we visited Heaven tonight

  • @thiagoblanco
    @thiagoblanco 13 років тому +1

    I love his voice and will ever do, I even play the violin myself but I'd also admit it's a little weird to behold him dressed like that HOWEVER I know it's ok and the opera requires it so.
    =)

  • @ティーフルーティー
    @ティーフルーティー 10 місяців тому

    なんと‼️美しい‼️
    この歌手はシンプルな歌も天使の声で美しいけれど、テクニカルな歌いかたも‼️感動の上手さ❗‼️‼️

  • @disconnexiondisconnexion1756
    @disconnexiondisconnexion1756 4 роки тому

    Кошмар. Фил может лучше. Итальянский так себе )

  • @MKNRMUSIC
    @MKNRMUSIC 15 років тому

    Hmm, I'm still not convinced sorry, because a counter-tenor is pretty much the equivalent of a contralto/mezzo-soprano, which are mostly girls.
    And I do not think it is an easy range to acquire unless you are vocally trained and most counter tenors would sing in falsetto.
    I doubt that most of my friends can sing around F5 (higghh !!! lool), but undeniably, with vocal training getting there is possible. Thanks for sharing your point !

  • @sabinepalmer7365
    @sabinepalmer7365 4 роки тому

    I must say that the costume is not the most suitable for underlining the role, which is the symbol of music, I think. I love nevertheless the message.

  • @PaoloJSB
    @PaoloJSB 15 років тому

    "la chatimi cantari" what's that? A japanese folk tube?
    In baroque music text is AS important as music. Maybe I'll go listening what you're saying and you PLEASE ge reading some XVII century treaties about singing before talking. Ever heard about Caccini? And Rognoni? They've written a lot of interesting words that maybe Mr. Jaroussky doesn't know. Ah, by the way that's not a new kind of pizza..

  • @tuadolcefanciulla
    @tuadolcefanciulla 15 років тому

    My understanding is that with opera singers, a mic is used if the venue
    is quite large. No singer could be
    heard at the back of the the 3 Tenors
    concert for instance. La Scala is so huge.
    I wonder if mics way above are used. Meaning hanging high where the audience cannot see. The acoustics of opera and other concert venues differ, no matter how beautiful the architecture. If someone knows if and how mics are used in varying venues, for operatic music, I would appreciate learning.

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    Vitas did a cover of Nessun Dorma, Caruso and La Donna E Mobile. Fun fact Luciano Pavarotti and Jaroussky have used mics, which is obvious if you look at the related videos at right (Se in ogni guardo). Also there is no need to be so racist. Grow up and let go of your black and white world where everything can only be one way or the other. Are all non-operatic singers talentless to you? A mic is used not to make a voice beautiful but to project a beautiful voice. Both of them are amazing.

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    lol I am not Vitas and it is fine if you personally dislike pop musicians. Generally speaking, I dislike most pop artists myself. Jaroussky is indeed much more technically capable than Vitas but don't say that someone is completely talentless just because you dislike the genre of music they sing. They both have great control and beautifully clear voices, there is no need to put one down to laud the other. They are both great in their own ways.

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    look up his birthplace it's Latvia though it is true he is famous in Russia and known as the diamond voice of Russia. How many pop stars do you know that sing without microphones in stadiums with hundreds to thousands of people? Also the funny thing is Vitas is known for taking the microphone away from his face in concert to prove it's just him, which you'd know had you seen as much as i, oh informed one. I would love to see you sing with such clarity and ease in that register. give him his dues

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    Note that I never said "tenor", all I was saying is that most men can sing in the counter-tenor range. A counter-tenor has either just bothered to learn how to use it or is naturally more at ease in the range than in the tenor range. I bet you most of your male friends can sing at least around F5. It won't sound pretty and they'll probably only do so in jest but they can and they just never develop it further.

  • @olialto7
    @olialto7 15 років тому

    Not really either. He's singing the part of 'Speranza' which is Italian for 'Hope'; so he's really playing the part of an allegory. Having said that I think that Speranza was a sort of minor goddess. In the original performance of this opera, all the roles were played by men because the Catholic Church didn't like women singing in public. But it's been quite common over the centuries for men with high voices (like countertenors or castrati) to sing female roles for comic or poignant effect.

  • @shelterit
    @shelterit 15 років тому

    It has not been "established" that Monteverdi was the first great baroque composer. Any such notion is absurd as the baroque and the renaissance doesn't start and stop on set dates (and I've mentioned Gabrieli and Frescobaldi). The renaissance was dominant by the polyphonic sounds, and the baroque introduced discords, basso continuo (and don't think it's about a bass-line or just added bottom to music; it was a culture all in itself, akin to jazz at times), lament, and more.

  • @shelterit
    @shelterit 15 років тому

    ate, you're simply wrong, and you're making big whopping assumptions that are plainly wrong. Monteverdi did play in both fields, but that does not make him in any less baroque, and there were many composers who meddled in the renaissance after him all the way through, just like there were people before Monteverdi who were doing basso continuo (I mentioned Gabrieli and Frescobaldi; look them up). And, mate, the reason they used those instruments were because they had nothing else. *sigh*

  • @jemdyar17
    @jemdyar17 15 років тому

    also, I realize that this is a debate that is going on between music theorists and historians. Though it has been established that Claudio Monteverdi" was the first known "baroque" composer, there are many who feel that stylistically and chronologically, he was also the last great renaissance composer. THere are plenty of others who think the way I do. I don't think you deserve any more of my time until you can get your nose out of the air and debate with reason rather than insults.

  • @jemdyar17
    @jemdyar17 15 років тому

    there are other marks that indicate baroque music BESIDES the continuo. Choice of instruments for example in the baroque era, and how they were typically played differed from MANY of the instruments used in the renaissance time. Monteverdi's choice of instruments and how they were played, even the way in which his scores were written, were much MORE similar to Renaissance. Monteverdi deserves his own "era" that's neither baroque nor renaiss. but until then he's considered "late renaissance"

  • @shelterit
    @shelterit 15 років тому

    Sorry, but that is nonsense. there is no "typical baroque" as we're dealing with almost 200 years of musical development. And frankly, what is the quintessential baroque treat? Basso continuo. Just because some people think Bach was penultimate baroque doesn't make it true. Listen to Frescobaldi, then Gabrieli, then Schutz, and tell me what "baroque" is. Just because composers were different doesn't make the definition of what baroque is any different. You're simply wrong.

  • @mattymyboy
    @mattymyboy 16 років тому

    well you cant really be trained but ive sung since i was a younb boy and i was a soppranno but during the changing of my voice i never lost my high i cant go as high when i get to a soprano A it gets not so pretty but countertenor music is verry much in a lot of peoples range.. i can sing baratone but i normaly sing tenor 1 because there are no spots for a counter tenor around here lol

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    A counter-tenor pop singer with a rather generous range topping at Eb6. He too is skilled in his own way, I wouldn't go as far as to say he is technically more talented than the virtuoso Philippe Jaroussky but he is great in his own right and is another favorite of mine for his own differences. Also he is Latvian if memory serves.

  • @jemdyar17
    @jemdyar17 15 років тому

    I don't need to brush up on anything. Yes, he was in the middle and revolutionized music of his time toward the baroque era. However, if you listen to the "typical" baroque (ie Bach, Handel, Albinoni, Vivaldi) it is distinguishably different from Monteverdi, and to most experts, the latter is considered in the "Renaissance" Era.

  • @shelterit
    @shelterit 16 років тому

    Sorry mate, but you need to brush up on your history and music knowledge. Monteverdi was smack down the middle of both of them, partially responsible for that revolution the baroque was at the time (making lyrical expression part of the music, and the coming of age of basso continuo). Secondo prattica, I love it!

  • @drisspissdriss
    @drisspissdriss 15 років тому

    Yes, there is a big debate. But almost all countertenors have learnt to cultivate their falsetto voice.
    You can listen to Andreas Scholl singing "Wraggle taggle gypsies" using his normal voice and his brilliant countertenor voice in the iTunes store preview. This should give an impression.

  • @khbgkh
    @khbgkh 15 років тому

    maybe it's that you feel intimidated by someone comfortable enough to utilize this kind of talent without being afraid of rejection in some way? I can tell you most definitely that this man is a very fine singer and is most certainly not unbearable. You are simply not used to it. Broaden your horizons.

  • @molealto
    @molealto 16 років тому

    I think you mean ".. in falsetto". In actual fact, both male altos (Type 1 countertenors*) and sopranisti use falsetto.
    * Type 2 countertenors are also known as hautes-contre or tenori altini - tenors who go all the way up, like del Pozo, Covey-Crump, Agnew or Cyril Auvity.

  • @Garpinator
    @Garpinator 14 років тому

    All I am saying is a counter tenor voice is not the same thing as a falsetto. That is NOT false. As to how Michael got to have such a high voice, I guess that can go on the list with the more invasive technique that was used during Gluck's time.

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    Philippe Jaroussky is male the role he is playing is a female i think though. Most men have this range but society has shifted towards neglecting and discouraging it''s use and development.

  • @essenciademusica
    @essenciademusica 17 років тому +1

    Tanto Andreas Scholl como Jarousky são maravilhosos, as vozes são diferentes é claro.
    Mas não há necessidade de comparar um interprete ao outro , pois ambos tem seus méritos! Eu aprecio os dois!

  • @tastibasti
    @tastibasti 17 років тому

    plaese don´t regard somebody for his sexuality. it´s not interesting. voice is a medium. and voice needs no sex. voice is what it is. natural and an instrument of charactre.

  • @MKNRMUSIC
    @MKNRMUSIC 15 років тому

    Hum.. i dont think most men are tenors. And he is a counter tenor anyway, and hence he can hit higher notes than pure tenors.

  • @Garpinator
    @Garpinator 14 років тому

    Do a youtube search on Alessandro Moreschi and tell me he's not hittng the same notes! It's really not that far-fetched, Michael Jackson notwithstanding.

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    It is nothing shameful for an actor or performer to don costume. Think of the role he is playing and the history of the use of the counter-tenor voice.

  • @enribilli
    @enribilli 15 років тому

    it's a pity: he hits me out of the WORDS. He doesn't know any Italian and the pronounce is really howful! Affectation and any expression...

  • @Garpinator
    @Garpinator 14 років тому

    a countertenor has a naturally high voice, not a falsetto. He is singing ful voice at that pitch (just like Michael Jackson did)

  • @Masamuneblader
    @Masamuneblader 15 років тому

    lol if he is playing a female character it is perfectly appropriate, androgyny doesn't suit a character of determinate gender.

  • @peter3217crane
    @peter3217crane 15 років тому

    kherynn,
    he IS male, and he is HEALTHY! :-)
    but that's the point: he sings so well - if you don't see him, you can't tell!

  • @andrika1990
    @andrika1990 14 років тому

    @Royalbrettania I agree we occupy a society of stereotypical bigots. People in this century are so shalowminded its sad.

  • @galaxygirl100
    @galaxygirl100 16 років тому

    He isn't gay. He has been trained to sing that high.
    He's the closest to a modern-day castrato singer that we have.

  • @Eurydix
    @Eurydix 16 років тому

    J'avais jamais vu ce chanteur travesti!
    mdr! mais d'un point de vue baroque ce n'est pas chooquant....

  • @blaurum
    @blaurum 15 років тому

    Who said it was a Turkish classic?? It is Monteverdi, it is italian... And by the way, it is perfectly performed.

  • @sherbetstraw
    @sherbetstraw 15 років тому

    dont apologise its not very obvious... my guess is its a woman... but im not sure either. ?

  • @jannokas85
    @jannokas85 16 років тому

    He could pass me by on a street like that and i wouldn't suspect a thing...

  • @cookiesonsteve
    @cookiesonsteve 15 років тому

    damn guys... hope you are majoring in music with all that jibber jabber

  • @contratenorlesbybautista1250

    Maravilloso. Musicalísimo. Bravísimo.

  • @aleiv
    @aleiv 17 років тому

    Thanx for posting Orfeo. Do you really guys think this is good singing? Mah...

  • @jemdyar17
    @jemdyar17 16 років тому

    monteverdi was renaissance, not baroque . . . however, gotta love Jaroussky!

  • @Pre114
    @Pre114 14 років тому

    Whatever the prejudice is, it's good that castrato is no longer around

  • @starbreez3
    @starbreez3 15 років тому

    ... Come on, Vitas is sexy, but he's not better than Jaroussky.

  • @jemdyar17
    @jemdyar17 16 років тому

    no falsetto here. Countertenor or male soprano.

  • @oakmag
    @oakmag 14 років тому +1

    He is glorious and mesmerizing. Thank you for posting.

  • @sherbetstraw
    @sherbetstraw 15 років тому

    lol thats a new take on the countertenor!!!

  • @khbgkh
    @khbgkh 15 років тому

    you do know that falsettos exist right?

  • @x4812k
    @x4812k 17 років тому

    the headdress is what tops it all off.

  • @thecritiquevirtuoso
    @thecritiquevirtuoso 16 років тому

    I for one loves the androgyny.

  • @tuadolcefanciulla
    @tuadolcefanciulla 15 років тому

    "Vocal athletes" on stage. Wonderful analogy. There would be 2 reasons in Opera houses: 1. If the performance were broadcast live. 2. If a performance were being taped for future use.
    Your super analogy of a sprinter running on a conveyer belt. Olympic caliber runners are born. Their bodies utilize oxygen way beyond average efficiency.
    I've often thought Renee Fleming was
    born with similar optimum oxygen usage.
    Singing above an entire orchestra - consistenty - GOLD MEDAL physiology!!

  • @susantash33
    @susantash33 11 років тому

    Forgive my ignorance but this text reminds me so much to Dante's "La divina commedia", the famous part when they're abput to enter Hell. What's the relation between this opera and Dante's work?

  • @clementinechex6934
    @clementinechex6934 6 років тому +1

    💖

  • @raxmeger
    @raxmeger 15 років тому

    Jarousski è davvero bravo e espressivo, insomma uno dei pochi falsettisti in attività che non vorresti strozzare....

  • @carolineleiden
    @carolineleiden 11 років тому

    Orpheus is a character in the Inferno. He resides in limbo, along with other virtuous pagans. neither in Heaven or in Hell. The story about Orpheus and Eurydice dates back to Greco-Roman times. Dantes Divina Commedia was written in the 14 th century, the opera Orfeo by Monteverdi is from the early 17th century. I am not aware of any special relation between Dantes work and this opera. Opera seria is typically based on the classics.

  • @susantash33
    @susantash33 11 років тому

    It's just that the lyrics are so similar to canto III... The inscription at the hell's gate: "per me si va ne la città dolente" "Lasciate ogni speranza voi ch'intrate" and then Dante's comment to Virgil: "...il senso lor m'è duro"

  • @sjuli17
    @sjuli17 11 років тому

    Yes, most people can quote, or at least, recognize that line even now, in the 21th century. I remember, we had to memorize the complete inscription of the gate of Hell in high school. :)

  • @carolineleiden
    @carolineleiden 11 років тому

    Dantes Commedia was one of the most famous and well read works of his time. I don't think any single work of literature, with such an impact on shaping our perception of the afterlife, even today, has ever been written. At the time, it was a veritable codex of religious ideas, made accessible to non-theologians. The librettist no doubt read the Divina Commedia. Everybody did, everybody quoted from it, and in a sense, we today still do the same. We are just unaware of the source.

  • @thecritiquevirtuoso
    @thecritiquevirtuoso 17 років тому

    so what? c'est son rôle

  • @charlesowens2971
    @charlesowens2971 10 років тому +1

    Great performance

  • @holidaysinsweden
    @holidaysinsweden 13 років тому

    I would love to meet Philippe to ask him how his extraordinary talent was discovered. After all, for a guy to train as a counter these days isn't quite common.

  • @puddinfacekiki
    @puddinfacekiki 13 років тому

    I first heard his amazing voice in The Talented Mr. Ripley. Since than i fell in love with his amazing and beautiful voice.

  • @jgonnerman85
    @jgonnerman85 14 років тому

    Is anyone else getting Adam Lambert vibes? ;-) Seriously, though, Jaroussky rocks.

  • @susantash33
    @susantash33 11 років тому

    Or better, perhaps there's a relation between Orpheo's myth, Dante's work and this opera.

  • @emmadalehench1
    @emmadalehench1 11 років тому

    i saw 2 barque operas dido and aneas and julius ceasar in my whole life both great

  • @amandawindred
    @amandawindred 14 років тому

    Philippe is an amazing performer and his voice is a dream to listen to! he has a voice that I know a lot of us mezzos in training would love to have especially with coloratura! brava!!!

  • @bigbeddie
    @bigbeddie 14 років тому

    fantasttic voice, technique, presence, and an inspiration. I agree with the eardrum comment!

  • @edmonddantes6486
    @edmonddantes6486 11 років тому

    Stunningly beautiful and humble. I feel the same awe when listening to the amazing ANDREY NEMZER singing SAINT FRANCIS PRAYER. Such humility and inspiration!.

  • @Daniela17097
    @Daniela17097 11 років тому

    simply wonderful ... Music, voice, acting, everything ... Thank you for this post :)! i listen it every day for a few days :).

  • @aglobackwards
    @aglobackwards 17 років тому

    Oh dear dear, this is wild!;D Thanks a lot, you're great:)

  • @TalkToMe66
    @TalkToMe66 15 років тому

    His use of voice hits me away to the other worlds...

  • @calogerogalo
    @calogerogalo 16 років тому

    amazing. it isn't beautiful, it's beauty itself.

  • @calogerogalo
    @calogerogalo 16 років тому

    amazing. it isn't beautiful, it's beauty itself.

  • @calogerogalo
    @calogerogalo 16 років тому

    amazing. it isn't beautiful, it's beauty itself.

  • @undamaris2006
    @undamaris2006 16 років тому

    BRAVISSIMO

  • @lumecia
    @lumecia 15 років тому

    it's so wonderful! Thanks a lot;)

  • @AvatarPrimus
    @AvatarPrimus 15 років тому

    truly magic, perfection on every note!!!!

  • @calogerogalo
    @calogerogalo 16 років тому

    amazing. it isn't beautiful, it's beauty itself.

  • @drisspissdriss
    @drisspissdriss 15 років тому

    There is even a version on UA-cam!

  • @NinaSmi
    @NinaSmi 15 років тому

    Very good voice!
    Прекрасный голос! Отличное исполнение!

  • @damenipo
    @damenipo 16 років тому

    Es lo mejor que hay, me encanta su voz!!!!

  • @martibogie
    @martibogie 13 років тому

    Exquisite and breathtakingly beautiful..

  • @MariadeBsAs
    @MariadeBsAs 16 років тому

    What a marvelous voice! Jaroussky is great!!

  • @seifelmughrabi
    @seifelmughrabi 16 років тому

    beautiful thank you for posting.

  • @evewiemer
    @evewiemer 14 років тому

    Great voice!

  • @destotheman09
    @destotheman09 14 років тому

    great voice...nuff said XD

  • @oanachan
    @oanachan 16 років тому

    i'm in love with his voice!!!

  • @martynnotman3467
    @martynnotman3467 14 років тому

    wow, this is amazing

  • @Alinutza78
    @Alinutza78 14 років тому

    Amazing voice!!!

  • @jary1844
    @jary1844 11 років тому

    the greatest voice ever