JUSTIFIED RESISTANCE? Robby and Jessica DEBATE Oct.7 TERRORIST ATTACK
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- Jessica Burbank and Robby Soave discuss a professor at the University of Minnesota calling the United States an "occupier." Originally aired December 22, 2023; • University Professors ... #unitedstates
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If the lady or her family has property in the U.S.. she can deed it back to the local tribe
She’s a woke, white women who is also lbgtq. Her demographics ideology are very much for getting rid of the USA
These people are always talking other people's property. It never applies to them.
@@mklite I was a property owner in the oneida land claim the oneida and the feds suef for evication if they had won we would have lost title to our property
No, it was the Russians who crossed the Alaskan-Siberian land bridge first. They have the claim to Novo-Russia in the Americas.
@@michaelkatz275 not true at all
EVERY line on a map was determined by overpowering those already there.
Lies
“Gaul is divided into three parts.” - Julius Caesar
That's why you give no example @@brothero.tongue-bey435
Who cares
@@marcosmith2501 he really had gall!
Every place in the world had other people living there at some point. This is the way of humanity. I think we should start giving land back with whenever Jessica lives in her affluent top 1 percent area of Connecticut.
I recognize it that way is wrong and that we need to change because being mean to living creatures for no good reason because you think you’re better is wrong
You forgot that this is the 21st century. Laws of the jungle no longer applies
I wonder if these people will also demand that the Arab Imperialists who conquered the entirety of the Middle East will give “land back” and provide financial compensation to the hundreds of millions of people who they conquered and colonized across the MENA
My guess is no - they just hate the Western World which has brought up our living standards to immense proportions.
What an idiotic statement. Not every conquest involves ethnic cleansing unlike Israel. Most people in the Middle East with the exception of Israel are indigenous
Jesus was a Palestinian. Thew were there before the Germans who converted to Judaism were there. Many of the Biblical Jews became Christians and Muslims. That's why it's illegal to do DNA test because these are not biblical Jews
Right. Funny how certain groups are exempt from having to give land back.
Everybody loves Thomas Jefferson as an egalitarian guy. Still, when he made the Louisiana Purchase that increased the landmass by a third, he bought the land from Napolean, not the Indians. So, who did the French buy it from?
You're telling on yourself. Lots of people don't love Thomas Jefferson m
The French acquired it from the Spanish in a trade.
@@TravisRiverNo, not true. Most educated people understand the impact of Jefferson's work on the world and they're big proponents of it.
@@17Clovers "educated" meaning brainwashed by liberalism.
Just as I suspected. Before the Louisiana Purchase in 1803, the land was owned by France under the rule of Napoleon Bonaparte. It's worth noting that France had reacquired the territory from Spain in 1800 under the secret Treaty of San Ildefonso, after initially ceding it to Spain in 1762. Before European claims, numerous Indigenous groups inhabited the area for thousands of years. The Louisiana Purchase transferred ownership directly from France to the United States in 1803. Sumbitch@@antechamber9186
Some Arab examples in Past 20 years: Nigeria vs Boko Haram (350K dead), Sudan vs JEM/Darfur (300K dead), Yemen vs Houthis 240,000 killed.
Pakistan vs Islamists (50,000), SYRIA's Civil War 600,000 dead, South Sudan's civil war (400K dead), Ethiopia & Eritrea vs Tigray (600K) killed.
Do you remember protests for all these Muslims killed? Me, neither. It's not about land in Israel. It's about special Palestinians, without any Jews at all.
is is vry disturbing Jews have keep palistinians hostage no excuse for the extremist but to some point you abuse a dog long enought it will turn on you, it is a umfortunate comparison but reality is reality, in my opinion ther sould be a mass exidus of palistinians to another country Unfortunatly ther is to much damage to be so close to each other, but on the otherside how is that fair Jews can just go in and exterminate these people is exactly wat it is and it makes me sick, i do not understand how thery have not goten all their adversaries? but have murdered thousands if inoccent people. and this is not ok at all. prayers for peace.
How far back do you go? What if the land was already occupied by another tribe before? They occupied other land too !
I'm Native American. My father grew up on a reservation and I'm a tribal member, as are my children. Unfortunately I have to mention to appease all the woke identity politicians just to have my personal opinion "approved" as valid, but here we are.
Regardless, this is nonsense. We SOLD and TRADED most or tribal land, just like the Palestinians did to the Israelis after 1948. My father grew up on a reservation, but he left and served the army, went to Bible College, met my mom, and settled down into a good, decent life. We couldn't have done that in almost any other country on the earth, but we were blessed to be born in America, "where at least we knew we were free", just like the song used to say.
I grew up in a world where liberals and conservatives still argued aplenty, but when the flag came out and the national anthem played, every hand went over every heart, and we stood together in those moments as ONE nation under God. But somehow, we lost our way and now idiots who have enjoyed all the blessings our freedoms afforded us here telling us we should erase our borders and evict everyone who isn't American Indian enough.
Open your eyes, you fools. You're trying to RE-SEGREGATE the entire planet and have the stupidity and gall to call that true freedom and equality for all.
You're destroying the best and freest countries the world has known in recent times, and maybe ever. Please.. Stop.
The Palestinians didn't "trade" their land in 1948, it was forcefully taken from them. Those who resisted were killed, the rest were pushed into the West Bank and Gaza. Nothing can justify Israel's "right to commit genocide". This is neo-colonialism. I don't think you understand the difference between living on a reservation and living in an open air prison like Gaza. Were there checkpoints at every entry and exit? Were there limited supplies of food, water and medicine dictated by the U.S.? You simply can't compare U.S. indian reservations with what's going on in Palestine. America treats you as human beings, Israel regards the Palestinians as ANIMALS. Perhaps you're not intelligent enough to understand that.
That’s the problem most indigenous people don’t believe in God we believe in creator and reincarnation. And we have religious freedom in this country. Do we not?
Their whole argument about giving land back to the natives kinda shows a problem with the people in the panels knowledge. The thing is that most of the jews in Isreal got indigenous ancestors, where most Palestians actually dont have indigenous roots to the land they live in. The hosts gives a really nice example on how things are in general.
Are you not the same woman who said car jackings were up because car prices had risen and people needed to get to work?
I doubt she has ever heard of the ottoman empire.
Yes, that's her. A man died and she just blew it off..
Imagine believing that the socialist utopia will mean getting land for yourself or your people.
Don't assume that progressives and Native American activists share the same ideology.
@@foebokMany different, but these panelists are endorsing ultranationlist sentiments, not the left.
And just like the sanctuary city issue we see playing out as soon as it affected you personally Jessica your opinion would change immediately!
Jessica is insane lol
I do her
I think it's weird how right wingers want to complain all day about the federal government, but then when the opportunity comes up to possibly live under a tribal government that would in all likelihood be more in favor of personal liberty, they cry home to big daddy fed.
No, she's dumb.
Who cares if her elevator doesn't go all the way to the top ? that's not the floor I'm getting off on.
These people have no idea about ANY history, not even their own.
"Set aside land that they govern themselves". She's talking about reservations. Literally already done.
They have literally done everything thing she's suggesting. Jessica Burbank is one of the most ignorant, know-nothing- liberals that this show has one it (and that's saying something). Her arguments about Israel/Palestine are equally as ridiculous. That the U.S. supports Israel because it has economic interests; that's why ANY country works with other countries. What, does she think it's about who has the coolest flag? Unbelievable!
The indigenous people in the USA have repeatedly been pushed(by killing) into smaller and smaller areas, generally the least valued land at the time, and the treaties made are always broken by the USA, with further pushing(by killing) when the land was later found to have something on it such as valuable minerals and it continues to this day with things like fossil fuel companies pushing to run pipelines through their land. Even in their "reservations" the US often dictates what they can build there. They could, as Jessica said, at least give some of the national park land back.
@@maelstrom52 The US also has economic interests that are directly threatened by its position with Israel. There are several other factors driving this relationship, including lobbying group pressure and institutional capture
When the new jewish settlement began in 1882, most of the arab who lived in palestina lived in villages. the jews settled in places where conditions were very difficult, diseases such as malaria. The jews settlers drained swamps, and did not think of excelling their arab neighbors who mostly lived in villages.if the arab had not started the war in 1948, no arab would have been deported.
Start with her house. Man this chick must live a very sheltered life
That's exactly what I was thinking Robbie...
It's DISGUSTING to be happy about what happened on October 7th - where HUNDREDS of people were KILLED & hurt, And humiliated.
It was a TERRIBLE DAY for MANY, MANY people & MANY, MANY families.
It was NOT a "beautiful day" in ANY way, shape or form.
Hundreds of people died? Dude 1200 people died majority of them were soldiers
@@Famousally22294 Majority of them aren't soldiers.
@@yevgeni10America was founded on absolute genocide. Somehow you called the natives savages while you gave money for baby scalps...
When you oppress the people they get desperate and they do terrorism it’s pretty simple. All you have to do is start being nice and fair to people and they’ll stop attacking you. Oh but wait you sell weaponry at your main source of income so you promote using weaponry people need to wake up I feel bad for humanity. The indigenous are the only smart people around.
900 civilians 400 soldiers and police most of which were soldiers caught completely off guard sleeping in their bunks, including female soldiers who just got drafted 18 years old (and it's mandatoy). These are facts.
Is she trying to top Brianna's woke insanity?
You mean rational thought and basic common sense?
@@howardbonds5106let em try and take it back they are more then welcome to
pipe dream?
@@howardbonds5106
She's wrong about 1948 🤦♂️ historically incorrect. Then her comparison of natives to some other nation showing up today and telling Americans to leave is woefully ignorant. Too much to unpack here but it's amazing that such poor historical inaccuratcies can make it on to the airwaves.
They pushing the pro Hamas pro Islam agenda
She is not wrong. Palestinian and proud. Keep seething
she must be a PHD degree student 😂
Excuse me ma’am-I’m indigenous and that scenario is not MY reality. Unless you can dig my ancestors up, bring them back to life and give them the land back, just leave things well enough alone and let us all get on with our lives please.
People have a right to go back - of course, but not where Jessica resides -
Yeah, I know I would be interested to know if she give up her house to a Native American Comanche or a Cherokee
I love how they can’t identify with the Jews who were forcibly removed from Israel multiple times. Aligning with terrorists won’t get them anywhere.
Islam is the root cause of the Israel/Palestinian conflict.
Honoring treaties would be a good start at 'land back' decolonization. In the Dakotas, the 1868 treaty seding areas of three states to tribal nations has been ignored by Anglo-European settlers for 150 years. In Oklahoma, half the state is native land by treaty.
Maybe then the Dakota can give it back to the nez perce since that's who they stole it from 😆
@@woodsmand Shhh, that goes against the narrative. 😂
Take it up with France. They sold it. Every hear of the Louisiana Purchase?
Maybe it should go back to the original settlers of the Americas, the indigenous peoples from Australia, who were hunted to extinction by "Native Americans". Of course, this narrative, despite indisputable evidence from cave paintings, skeletons and artefacts, is heavily suppressed by all Native Americans.
One of the few educated and helpful comments here. Though I don't know the details, I'm sure many treaties were broken. If only people like Jessica would advocate for them to be honored instead of virtue signaling and belaboring what most of us already know, although her point about giving Natives more federal land seems a good one. But has she researched?
I wonder if Jessica owns property? Maybe she can kick this whole “land back” experiment off by giving back all of her property to a native American family of her choice! See that is when you know people like Jessica don’t really mean what they say.
At least Zionists should be honest enough to admit that they stole land and not keep on shouting God gave them the land.
She suggested Federal land not anyone's personal land.
The girl in red olso doesn't know that more than half of israelis today came to Israel from arab countries after suffuring pogroms. A famous forum took place in Iraq in the Farhad pogrom in 1941. There were pogroms in Morocco in 1948, and in the city of pez in 1912. In Algeria, Libya, yemen, Tunisia, there were pogroms in all these countries.
I understand their perspective though I don't support it
What bothers me is when SJW's get into this cause but wouldn't give up so much as a parking spot for an Indiginous Person or Palestinian
That's the point that she's making. If the Native Americans all of a sudden decided to take back their land with violence, we would all condemn that, but why dont we condemn zionist when they try to take back "their land" with violence.
It's because zionists donate a lot of money to US politicians. If native americans had the wealth and donated to politicians as much as the zionists do, elites would have no problem with native american's taking back their land
Jessica Burbank should be the first one to come up and leave this land to where here ancestry come from to make a statement.
My thought exactly I'd be right behind her, I mean.
Jesssica is a Marxist muppet
@@kimocoloma4123 Practice what you preach, which this channel hosts don't always do.
Land is just the ground we stand on. It doesn’t belong to anyone. It’s the earth. Nobody has any claim over any land mass it’s for whoever currently lives on it to live on.
Im not sure if Jessica realizes. They are not looking for "some" land. They are looking to decolonize all of Turtle Island (north america) Just as the Palestinians aren't searching for A state. They are searching to decolonize from the river to the sea. So the idea of giving a swath of land in new mexica is not what they mean, they mean "from the sea to the shining sea, Turtle Island will be free"
The Palestinians I have heard speak on it, aren't saying the Jews have to leave, but that they want equal rights there.
Don't give Jeccica credit for being the brightest. She should go back to her university and demand a full refund, as it appears she did not receive a rational education.
They're not looking to kick people out, they're looking to dismantle racist colonial structures (that have resulted in current day land theft and racism, most recent genocide being the mass graves of Indigenous child found in Canada, perpetrated by Christians who are still alive, last school closed in 1996)
"They are searching to decolonize from the river to the sea."
This is wrong on so many levels. Look up Chomsky talking about the Camp David Map. Israel's goal is to establish "fingers of Israel" running from river to sea so that Palestine is split into 5, then into 8, then into 20 separate regions, so that eventually everybody gives up and leaves. Whereas if you actually read the Palestinian "river to sea" quote it ends in "free". I suppose when you are used to superiority, equality feels like ... genocide?
@@ddhqj2023 They are lying. That is what they do. It is part of their culture and religion. It is in their "book".
it's all hypothetical - the vanquished don't make demands - the conqueror allows debate to placate the fools and then does nothing but offer platitudes
We really should arrest these "activists".
This was beautifully written, if it's original then you're like a modern day Ennius.
So Jessica, what is your personal sacrifice in landback and where are you going to move to?
Bad faith comment. You clearly didn't watch the video. She is proposing giving back federal land that no one lives on, or we can just follow the treaties we have been blatantly disregarding for 150 years.
@@poisonivy745yup.. How generous of her... Land that's either not suitable for agriculture or grazing in undesirable areas. How generous of her especially as she doesn't own it. 😂
American exceptionalism disappears when we start talking about exceptional ways to repair the typical damage dealt by empires.
Land is not owned by anyone. It is always occupied land. If you cannot defend the land that you occupy and someone comes to take it, you lose. That is the only truth about land that has existed for all of human history.
does Jessica realize that the native Americans that lived where she lives now don't want to move to Wyoming or Nevada, maybe we could relocate Jessica to Wyoming and give her land back.
Native Americans were nomads who followed the buffalo and roamed freely. They shouldn't be relegated to any specific area.
Libral racism is the best. Let's just treat the 570+ tribes of Natives like one entity. How about doing some research?
Ridiculous! People have always fought! Some win others lose! That's the way of life!
Texas has over 150 indigenous tribes that no longer exist so much for being metropolitan.
It sounds like Robby is advocating for Puerto Rican independence!!
Very few in Puerto Rico want independence. I think that polls tend to be 50% for territory status, where American citizenship is granted and not much else, 45% for statehood, in which case tourism and taxes would both go up, and 5% for complete separation.
@@jefflittle8913that’s factually incorrect, statehood is the least favored option and the new alliance movement will secure independence. The last plebiscite had advanced territorial status and independence combined beating out statehood which only had plurality not a majority, what made the plebiscite bull and void where the second question was purposely worded very confusing which left many people leaving it blank, allowing stathooders to propagate the myth that their position is the favored position. The majority was non voters because they knew it was a sham. We also had won our independence from Spain 11 months before America illegally seized Puerto Rico.
When she described the white van showing up to take your home, while calling you a savage, that was describing exactly what the activists would like to do...perhaps using a different vehicle.
That is a lesser version of what Israel has been doing for decades, and it's not old news there, Palestinians are being killed, forced out of their homes, or their homes bulldozed before October 7th, over 300 killed just in the part of 2003 before October 7th.
What activists are abdicating for seizure of land , y’all mfs just say anything
@@kevinswanson7740Did you watch the activists on stage? The guy wearing a covid mask (except when speaking … lol!) called the Oct 7th attack a “land-back” with love in his heart. The lady next to him wants Americans off “turtle island” (which means planet earth). Did you get that?!! If you watched the video, what did you actually think they were talking about?
@@tarascoterry People who have been traumatized for generations, who are out numbered, out gunned, and frequently had their treaties violated by an unlawful occupying force, often come up with fairly awful ideas of how to get justice and freedom from oppression, because they can only see the world through the lens of their trauma. You don't get conciliatory and diplomatic solutions from people who have experienced the failure of those efforts over many generations. That doesn't make their tactics ethical, or reasonable, but conflict seldom is. Those in power have the ability to provide diplomatic solutions, the oppressed don't have the privilege of operating on the same terms. This is why the American resistance to British occupation violated the rules of war and used guerilla warfare; we wouldn't have won if we fought using the British rules of conflict.
you need a brain man
The indigenous people in the USA have repeatedly been pushed by gun into smaller and smaller areas, generally the least valued land at the time, with further pushing when the land was later found to have something on it such as valuable minerals and it continues to this day with things like fossil fuel companies pushing to run pipelines through their land. Even in their "reservations" the US often dictates what they can build there. They could, as Jessica said, at least give some of the national park land back.
Jessica will never acknowledge that someone else lived on native American lands before the tribes that were there when the settlers arrived. Some tribes stole land from others and had been doing so for centuries. Which tribes were displaced by whom and how far back do we go?
The Indians that lived in N America were 'warring tribes' fighting each other over the lands they lived upon, and as in all of human history, a group came here and were better prepared to fight and win than those that were here fighting among themselves. We can't go all the way back to the beginning, at this point we must learn to be as fair as possible to all those who are here at this time...
Thank you!
You could say that about Israel
@@haroldbrown893Palestine didn’t want a state because they are antisemitic . Go educate yourself on the history Jews been in that region before Christ .
Well said, unfortunately the people in this vid have no such intent nor desire. It is what is. The need to pick one's side to fight for land, resources and influence will continue unabated.
There are _no_ 'indigenous' people in North or South America. All our ancestors came from somewhere else. Some got here before others. Generally, those who came later displaced those who came earlier.
Man, "The Intercept" with Jeremy Scahill and his reporters are putting out groundbreaking news.
Does she not know about reservations? I grew up in Ruidoso NM next door to the Mescalero reservation. They have Sierra Blanca Ski Resort and Inn of the Mountain Gods Resort N' Casino. They make sick cash and have a lot of beautiful land. They have their own town, schools, they have their own laws and leader. This land is off limits to anyone who isn't part of the tribe. They don't have to follow any laws outside of their community and are not imprisoned by American authorities. It's pretty common knowledge.
Listening to this conversation is kind of humorous and comically sad………it’s easy three to four hundred years later while sitting in one’s comfortable home with a comfortable job that one likes…..to pontificate on how we should undo the all the complicated mistakes of America’s Manifest Destiny…….it will,take wiser men/women than this generation to accomplish that task.
400 years later? What's more humorous it's your ignorance and lack of knowledge.
@@loumcastwhat you think Indians did when they migrated to the Americas from Asia? Ignorant muppet
@loumcast oh wa ha. Stop crying
Why don't we give them govt land to live on and do what they want? Um....didn't we kinda already do that? They have the same freedoms that the rest of us do, except they also get free land, free health care (meh), money, don't have to follow local laws in the same way that the rest of us do, etc. etc.
In 1979, the Indian Claims Commission concluded that a third of America's landbase was never legally ceded by native peoples. This includes 20% of America's oil and natural gas reserves and various mineral reserves besides. Reservation-based Indians are the poorest people in America, despite the immense profits accrued from the corporate exploitation of their resources. (See my 2019 film 'Frontier'). Colonialism is alive and well, folks.
Jessica and these libs are freaking insane! Lol
Some of these comments too.
No kidding
Most Native Americans live in the suburbs and are of mixed heritage. Because people are people, and we have children. Blood Quorum is an issue with most native tribes right now. With member having as low as 1/5 native…
I've never heard such incompetence from a group of allegedly educated and intelligent people.
Edit: The ancestors of the current Inuit, the Thule, colonized and displaced the Dorset people long before Europeans "colonized" the continent. Where is the outrage against the Inuit for their wrong doings? Where are the calls for the Inuit to give back the land? The Thule thoroughly colonized the Dorset to the point not one human alive today is descended from them.
Native Americans most definitely have land.
The level of incompetence of Jessica and those allegedly intelligent people is astounding.
They don't want to hear it.
Louisiana purchase 1803 United States government paid $15 million to France 530000000 acres north American territory. Spanish, American war for , Texas, California, New Mexico.
Give it back to who? I am with you, Robbie.
I completely understand what they mean. It’s not a reality that will happen but the sentiment is obvious
In 2005, Gaza was given to the Palestinians. They could have made it into a paradise, but instead, they elected Hamas and turned it into a prison of their own making. Israel patrolled the coast and northern and western borders to stop weapons from entering Gaza, but the southern border was controlled by Egypt, and they had commerce through their southern border. Giving Palestinians land is not the answer; instead, deprogramming them from hate and violence into a peaceful people is the answer.
Yes. Because that’s what people do, create prisons for themselves.
“Israel patrolled the coast to prevent weapons from entering Gaza” as settlers freely carry guns is the Definition of apartheid.
@@JakeFallis75There is no apartheid by Israel, only self defense, to stop attacks like October 7th. Stop the hate of those who defend themselves.
That's absurd, Gaza has never had control over its own imports, exports or even immigration, Israel does. Everything passing through Rafah requires Israel approval, you're either ignorant or a propagandist.
@@ldfox11 betselem, an isreali human rights organization describes isreal as an apartheid stare.
How do you make a paradise in a prison controlled by invaders?
Very enlightening interview...Thank-you
The native Americans will NEVER get this land back.
@@daa5249Why should we give it back ?
All human beings were invading each other for millions of years.
Now we're different but we just can't return the land .
Why don't we return the Earth to Africans.
Or you might want to return it to the neanderthals.
Only those who have a certain percentage of neanderthal DNA can live on earth
Palestine has been owned by Israel for thousands of years.
3000-Year History of Israel ..
Historians and archaeologists agree that the northern Kingdom of Israel existed by ca. 900 BCE: 169-195 and that the Kingdom of Judah existed by ca. 850 BCE. The Kingdom of Israel was the more prosperous of the two kingdoms and soon developed into a regional power.
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After capturing Babylon in 539 BCE, Cyrus the Great, founder of the Persian Achaemenid Empire, issued a proclamation allowing the exiled Judean population to return to Judah. The returned Jewish population was permitted to self-govern and rebuild the Temple.
Well, "indigenous people" were not there first either. Not to mention that i am pretty sure that those lands changed hands quite often as well, even before Europeans arrived. So whose those lands really are?
Perhaps everyone should all go to southern Africa, where human life originated. people spread out from there to all over the world.
For general knowledge, when britain received the mandate for palestina,palestina included today's jordan. Most of jordanian are palestinian. During the ottoman rull, the entire area where today syria, jordan, and israel was without borders and was called syria palestina.
The entire Central section of the US was inhabited by nomadic tribes. How does that work? Also, there is now a new debate about "indigenous" and people who have lived within a sovereign nation for generations.
Finally and unfortunately, this is modern warfare. It is the dirtiest and worst kind of warfare ever created by humanity. People die by missile, bomb, and drone. Civilian casualties in modern warfare are extremely high and unavoidable to the directives of those engaged in the war.
Robby says we cannot go back alot , but seems when it comes to Israel he think we can go back atleast 3000 years?
@@TC-zf1ji my dude if you cannot go back 3000 years then what is Israel (the promised land) doing in the middle east?
@@TC-zf1ji dude... I am a dude, im worried now..
i went over the video again, where did he say you cannot go back in the israeli situation? again if you cannot go back 3000 years then what is Israel (the promised land) doing in the middle east?
@@TC-zf1ji i have no problem with what he said, but if thats the rule , we need to be consistent, Israel claim in the land of palestine is one of two, promised land by god or Jews were there 3000 years ago, so if we cannot go back then forget about the second one, and for the promised land thing thats a totally different story. btw I am palestinian so I am biased to this idea :)
More like what are Eastern European converts to Judaism (most that are now atheists) doing in Palestine?
Was King David's last name something-berg or Epstein? It's like Elizabeth Warren being high chief of the native Americans.
What does some rando from Poland have to do with Palestine?
@@amerqarabsa2793 Uh, there have been countless thousands of Jews in the ME throughout history. They are no more "settlers" or "colonizers" than the Arabs are. And the Arab Muslims received their nations/homelands - why shouldn't the Jews have gotten the same thing?
Problem: Tribal territories weren't fixed lines but often fluid and overlapping, adapting to seasonal movements, resource use patterns, and alliances. Maps often struggle to capture this complexity.
That's not too much of a problem, a line is drawn somewhere.
I guess some people just don't understand the concept of conquest. Throughout history geographic areas have been acquired and ruled through conquest, whether it be by invasion, colonization, revolution, purchase, exchange or simply population growth. Those who hold the power over a geographic area decide how it is ruled and what rights its inhabitants are given, and it remains as such until other powers conquer. The Jews conquered most of Palestine through a combination of ideology, political connections, financial support, and military might. They have secured the backing of some of the most powerful nations on earth. They are the conquerors and the rulers. To remain in charge it would be a good idea to seek peace with the Palestinians. However if any woke out there thinks a resolution at the UN or a World Court is going to dismantle the State of Israel, you are dreaming in color.
So your saying that if Russia, Iran, China, and their allies team up to conquer the United States, that would be ethical and just?
i guess you don't understand that rules have changed so it is possible
It will be dismantled and crash on its own evil. According to the ones claiming to be the children of God, they say God destroyed them twice because of their evil.
To the lady in red who know nothing about the history of the middle East. I recommend reading the book written by Joan peters, from time immemorial. Joan peters used to be a great opponent of Israel, and after she researching the history of the place, she became a great supporter of Israel.
This interview just turned me into a Republican
Is there anyone left who doesn’t think Gen Z is going to do unspeakable acts against innocent people and endanger the hard earned prosperity our grandfathers handed us?
Only those who read.
handed to you what they stole
Jessica seems to forget she is living happily on this land and I'm sure has zero intention of ever leaving. The indians still have a lot of land that they govern and have many casinos on. If you only tell one side of a story its a half truth at best.
How can you be so sure she is living happily in the USA? You don't know that. Why would she want to leave her homeland? Her ancestors were probably here long before the white people came to north America, and that's why she identifies with both causes. Your comment is out of ignorance, you don't know her background.
@@loumcast. Who are Jessica’s ancestors?
@@anneb889 Does it matter? What matters is she is in the right side of history, that she stands with the oppressed, that she understands the wrongs that were done the US native Americans by the US government, and Palestinian populations in Palestine by the Israeli government with the help of the US government.
@@loumcast you said her ancestors were here long before white people came to North America when the OP said Jessica is living happily on this land and has no intention of leaving…..even if Jessica acknowledges the past injustices. I’m just wondering how you know Jessica’s ancestors were here long before, as she looks white to me?
@@anneb889 There are a lot of white looking people in north America with different degrees of native American ethnicity in them, just because they look white, doesn't mean they don't have native American blood in their DNA.
This land belongs to native Americans period
They call it decolonization I call it national security 🤷♂️ lol
Bottom line like it or not she is correct. I love my country and am a Christian but I can not hide from the truth. America is both an angel and a bully on the world stage.
Robbt knew to wisely keep his mouth shut in front of Max Blumenthal
The old slavery debate. Somehow the oppressive class are the only ones with the rights. The slaves never have the right for freedom
I can save her
I don’t think she’s ever heard of a reservation.
I hope no Native American thinks they are getting land back…lol
Wait, the US has taken over Turtle Island, too? We've truly gone too far.
Monster Island is next. Lol
Jessica has an opinion, how cute.
Beware of the circumcision
In what part of history are people not stealing land ?
"Palestine is doing it right! Now!"?
Or. "Palestine is doing it RIGHT NOW!"?
Do they even understand the difference?
They may want to figure it out before they mobilize.... I am pretty sure I am not the only one confused....
No, you just want want to distract with play of words. You hear what you want to hear. Problem is yourself. Get off your high horse cause you know exactly what the person said and meant.
I wonder if she's gonna decolonize her house? Something tells me no. lol
you clearly didn't watch and decided to comment anyway. she said we can give back federal land to Indigenous people.
@@poisonivy745 lol Watched more carefully than you, that's for sure.
Decolonize for thee and not for me
Jessica is a tik toc/meme journalist.
I think that like, um, like, that activist guy from, like, Turtle Island is like deranged.
Anybody who wants to be a soverign nation on their own land here in the US should NOT get anything from the US as far as food stamps, welfare, etc. NO benifits if they want to be their own nation.
@crosswalkguy435
I just wrote a comment about looking around in the Native American Library, led to NARF, and then about school education and the funding. Bill Gates and his ex-wife's foundation donated a grant for 2 roles , these roles would coordinate with Federal and Native American yada yada (no dollar amount, but it may be listed somewhere) .
I will read further tomorrow, I do love reading, learning , digging so that I have the facts in situations exactly like this.
Blah blah, I'm tired.
But as I was looking around, a couple quarters came to mind
How much money do they receive ? And why?
So they want land, then would that supercede any treaties?
I also thought, exactly what are they getting for free compared to other people?
Now I'm really curious about THE AMOUNT.
I believe UA-cam removed some of my comments, yesterday they said I wrote hate speech and removed it.
I have no idea what it was. But I know it wasn't hate speech, they can gaslight someone else. Which is among one of the things I write on their feedback form.
@@nonyab3843 Well, I DO know that the native tribes don't have to follow laws regarding salmon fishing and such. They are allowed to gill net, and fish without limits, and also on rivers where others are not allowed to fish at all...
America is the greatest place to live and they will never leave
There IS sovereign land for indigenous tribes. They are called RESERVATIONS, Jessica.
Dear god.,
Stop letting the interns touch the captions.
“Univeristy?”
FFS
Let’s see how their reaction would’ve been had their family have been there and people around the world glorifying their death
You can't have a genuine intellectual debate about 'barbaric, disgusting violence' if you insist on compressing the timeline to October 7, 2023.
Bring it on pocahontas, but you're gonna be sad when they ship you back to Siberia 😂😂
Just enjoy Jessica Burbank 's beauty and voice. No matter how liberal she is. Republican pass through.
Notice how she never says how the land back will be accomplished…..
The problem with "Landback" is its exactly the same argument the Zionists used to justify the Nakba. After a certain number of generations it is no longer reasonable to blame present day people for something their ancestors did. That doesn't mean we have no social responsibility to disadvantaged peoples but as far as just dumping us all in the sea or something...nationalism is nationalism. America for the (Indigenous) Americans still sounds just like "Germany for the Germans" to my ears. The problem I have is with calling this the left at all. The real left is bleeding heart and humanitarian. These people are definitely not that. They hate the same way the extreme right does. Some actions are never justifiable no matter whether you think you're "side" is more sympathetic or more in the right. More ultranationlist thinking is never going to be the solution to the problems it caused in the first place. That cycle has to end some time.
Perhaps this fact is surprising to American citizens that their own country "which is said to be the land of freedom" was a colonialist who massacred and then occupied the territory of the Indians who were the indigenous population. The same as what Israel has done to the Palestinian population since 1948.
The United States of America- care to guess how it came to be? It wasn't through hugs and cookies. Imagine being an 'indigenous' descendant and being told this truth is somehow rude to say. Madness...
Did anybody say that… Their land was taken by cheating, lying and force. That was true even before the French, Spanish and British got here. The indigenous peoples were at war with each other for thousands of years. Who’s to say who owned the land first. This argument that the land could somehow be given back is ridiculous.
Robby, the fact that you are even asking these reasonable questions shows how you are part of the problem.
Before the settlers got here, this was land of the free that’s what they don’t understand. They are imprisoned by a system of greed and hate.
I’m British so I’m probably a bit naive- but wasn’t North America’s indigenous population living on a total of less than 1% of the of the total area of liveable land ?? So how much land gets given back ???? And who owns the rest ??? And didn’t the indigenous peoples keep on taking each others owned land ?? To compare to Palestine is crazy .
if the indigenous peoples came over via land bridge from Siberia does that mean we must give it back to native populations from there? how far back must we go?
we only have to go back as far as the dawn of time - apparently some bloke called god owned it all then and gave it all to some thicko called Adam ! Hows about them apples ?
She was just as wrong about Egypt - she doesn't seem to realise France and Britain built the Suez canal
@@blackcatdungeonmastersfami5311 I am Egyptian and I don’t know know where did you get this from? Almost every single worker of the thousands who died digging the Suez Canal was Egyptian
@@chemistryconcepts7782 Sure, the labour. Engineers, technology, management and capital were mainly French. Later on the British took over. Without the French/British technology and engineering, it would never have happened. If only labour was a factor, the canal would have been built thousands of years ago.
Professors and students simply don’t live in the real world.
Bc they really aren't educated, not in the aspect of actual history. Sure, they get up , use phrases that the believe make them sound intelligent, well-versed in areas, but actually they are nothing but slang words that they assign to ideas.
That didn't come out like I wanted.
How about this?
Wash, Rinse, Repeat
Then it flows around like lava bc of technology.
People, ALL people need to sit down (I would say and put on their critical skill hats) but very few in these generations HAVE that skill. SERIOUSLY.
Yet another distraction, put into motion by the Puppet Masters.