Re-Listened to Audio Only when driving. Able to absorb more info (without straining to see slightly blurry visuals). Anyway thanks for this INCREDIBLE video
Been lucky enough to get in Steve's diary and have a 1 2 1 lesson. He is a fantastic pro, particularly good at explaining the context of the data from force plates. I am still working at the homework Steve 🙂
@SteveFurlongerGolfPerformance thank YOU for all the great work you do to help take golf and long drive to new levels. #furlonger. "This is the way." (quote from Mandalorian)
Steve this is absolutely fascinating! A question I would like to try to understand further is the difference between the classic and the modern golf swings. I'm under the impression that the modern golf swing the hips move more in A sagittal plane more like a squat or a lunge so they're pushing their feet more toward the ball like kicking dirt on the ball I think Justin James mentions that kind of feeling Martin borgmyer mentions the same feeling where you're pressing the ground toward the ball to create space with your hips on the sagittal plane so your hips are getting further away from the ball. I would contrast this with a classic golf swing which would be a little more like Jack Nicklaus or pain Stuart especially Sam's need they did not create space in the downswing and a lot of times it almost look like they're extending earlier their hips were getting in the way in appearance obviously it didn't. But in my understanding the classic swing was more around their body like swinging in a barrel sort of thing. Now with your depth of understanding of the footwork would you say that the classic swing had more rotational motion of the feet? More like primarily a clockwise and counterclockwise type of feel rather than pushing toward the ball or creating space with their hips?
Hi Jacob. With 3d force plates we are now able to measure the a/p forces. From my deep study of over 100 players I completed 3 years ago I found that those who extended excessively to the ball, pelvis thrust, lacked a/p toe/heel force under their lead foot . Everyone had enough a/p force heel/toe through their trail. Both forces are required to create a force couple which aids rotation, lead hip back, trail hip forwards. Now we can now measure any deficiency and therefore fix magnitudes and timings. Many players are aware of this now, those you have mentioned like Martin Borgmeier i have worked with personally.
@@SteveFurlongerGolfPerformance so essentially there is no difference between the classic and modern swing I was just trying to solve if they were actual different mechanics. Payne Stewart swing to me looks very rotational and definitely more transverse than sagittal. So what you're saying is according to your studies even if it looks different patterns are very similar?
There has been categories given to certain types of players, sliders/gliders, spinners and jumpers. Predominantly Lateral, a/p or vertical force players. These can be easily identified via video. The fastest on the planet max all three of three linear forces
Re-Listened to Audio Only when driving. Able to absorb more info (without straining to see slightly blurry visuals). Anyway thanks for this INCREDIBLE video
Your most welcome
Been lucky enough to get in Steve's diary and have a 1 2 1 lesson. He is a fantastic pro, particularly good at explaining the context of the data from force plates. I am still working at the homework Steve 🙂
Thank you 🙏🏼 great work
Martin Borgmeier is the 3rd player shown. Great video. Very good info. 🚀🚀🚀💣💣💣
Thank you 🙏🏼
@SteveFurlongerGolfPerformance thank YOU for all the great work you do to help take golf and long drive to new levels. #furlonger. "This is the way." (quote from Mandalorian)
great stuff man.....
Thank you sir 🙏🏼
Steve this is absolutely fascinating! A question I would like to try to understand further is the difference between the classic and the modern golf swings. I'm under the impression that the modern golf swing the hips move more in A sagittal plane more like a squat or a lunge so they're pushing their feet more toward the ball like kicking dirt on the ball I think Justin James mentions that kind of feeling Martin borgmyer mentions the same feeling where you're pressing the ground toward the ball to create space with your hips on the sagittal plane so your hips are getting further away from the ball. I would contrast this with a classic golf swing which would be a little more like Jack Nicklaus or pain Stuart especially Sam's need they did not create space in the downswing and a lot of times it almost look like they're extending earlier their hips were getting in the way in appearance obviously it didn't. But in my understanding the classic swing was more around their body like swinging in a barrel sort of thing. Now with your depth of understanding of the footwork would you say that the classic swing had more rotational motion of the feet? More like primarily a clockwise and counterclockwise type of feel rather than pushing toward the ball or creating space with their hips?
Hi Jacob. With 3d force plates we are now able to measure the a/p forces. From my deep study of over 100 players I completed 3 years ago I found that those who extended excessively to the ball, pelvis thrust, lacked a/p toe/heel force under their lead foot . Everyone had enough a/p force heel/toe through their trail.
Both forces are required to create a force couple which aids rotation, lead hip back, trail hip forwards. Now we can now measure any deficiency and therefore fix magnitudes and timings. Many players are aware of this now, those you have mentioned like Martin Borgmeier i have worked with personally.
@@SteveFurlongerGolfPerformance so essentially there is no difference between the classic and modern swing I was just trying to solve if they were actual different mechanics. Payne Stewart swing to me looks very rotational and definitely more transverse than sagittal. So what you're saying is according to your studies even if it looks different patterns are very similar?
There has been categories given to certain types of players, sliders/gliders, spinners and jumpers. Predominantly Lateral, a/p or vertical force players. These can be easily identified via video. The fastest on the planet max all three of three linear forces