For general max opener rotation (2min CDs up): Haunt > Unstable affliction > Seed of Corruption > Vile Taint > Malevolence > Soul Rot > Darkglare > Malefic Raptures No Darkglare pulls (1min CD): Seed of Corruption > Haunt > Unstable Affliction > Vile Taint > Malevolence > Soul Rot > Malefic Raptures No Darkglare or Malevolence up (Transition / chain pulls): Seed of Corruption > Haunt > Unstable Affliction > Vile Taint > Malefic Raptures > 5x Agony refresh when below 10sec Hope this helps clarify how to do damage between cooldowns, thanks for the feedback guys! :)
Thanks for this video man. Never played affliction before but I switch cos its highest lock rank for S1 WW. This helped me a lot. This class is hard to play for fast movement runs, you really need to sit with this spec to hit those numbers.
Talent pages on wowhead etc always have drain soul chosen but i see so many on youtube still using shadowbolt that cleaves? Is it a single target/cleave situation?
@PillsburyNinjaKneadingJustice situational. Drain allows you to gather shards moving from pack to pack and it has an execute modifier. Shadowbolt out performs in damage on short engagments.
Interesting that your stat priority is reverse of what everyone else suggests. I gotta say I really do feel that lack of haste with this long opener and refreshes. Any other word in this?
@Crittek for single target affliction benefits heavily from crit > mast > haste. This is probably most of the info you're finding on stats. For mythic and pvp I find hast/crit > mast pumps the packs, most likely due to the increased amount of targets being hit. Hope this helps!
@@ogsikko Thanks that was my thought but I also don’t sim or pull out spreadsheets so I just figured my assumptions were wrong and stacked a bunch of crit and mastery lol
Why would you cast seed of corruption last ( in my opinion should be first) . You lose so much damage from wither , also using malevolence before seed of corruption(wither not aplied) is a collosal mistake. Why would u suggest such opener its absurd..
@@peshodobrev911 Absolutely good catch, seed of corruption prior to vile taint and soul rot. I pinned a comment above with the rotation. Thanks for the feedback!
I tried this. One pack I pull 3m+ dps, other pack I pull 600k. This is very situational or I am simply bad at it. I prefer my 2m every pack with demonology over this. Consistency is better for me.
If you cant use vile taint. Make sure to Seed > Haunt > UA your priority target. That will get your corruptions rolling. From there you can manually cast 5x agony or if you have shards and VT is 5 sec from cooldown you can rapture dump. :)
@@ogsikko Ok because this seems critical in M+ as you are going to be attacking more packs the VT/SR on CD than if you have then up. Also, you may have to skip a pack because the boss is next and you need the CDs for the boss. And Id still wish someone would do a video just on this part. Every video I see, no one has yet even talked about trash as Aff when CDs are not up.
@@randomhuman19 depending on your team you may be the guy who needs to clear the trash with cds while your team uses them on boss. Sometimes the dos meters don't tell the whole story. Swing by the stream sometime and maybe I can show you. I pinned a comment above with situations thanks for the feedback!
In an ideal rotation correct, but in actual practice what I find is that Soul Rot can hit all of the mobs while the tank groups them and vile taint (cast at a location) may miss some as the tank moves the pack. The most important thing is that you have the haste from soul rot to rapture spam and that you dont overcap shards.
@mylinuxstruggle5495 hellcaller is getting wither nerfs but currently outperforms soul harvester in longer engagements. The 1min cd is also very consistent and lines up with soul rot.
When I sim for myself, it’s crit/mast/haste=verse. At this item level, haste doesn’t do a ton to help our spender (malific rapture) due to being capped based on shards available or procs. Stat prio may change with higher levels of haste. But atm every sim I’ve done and seen + Kalamazis info is prio crit/mast/haste. But also sim ur toon, stat weights are different for everyone based on gear and stat levels ect.
For general max opener rotation (2min CDs up):
Haunt > Unstable affliction > Seed of Corruption > Vile Taint > Malevolence > Soul Rot > Darkglare > Malefic Raptures
No Darkglare pulls (1min CD):
Seed of Corruption > Haunt > Unstable Affliction > Vile Taint > Malevolence > Soul Rot > Malefic Raptures
No Darkglare or Malevolence up (Transition / chain pulls):
Seed of Corruption > Haunt > Unstable Affliction > Vile Taint > Malefic Raptures > 5x Agony refresh when below 10sec
Hope this helps clarify how to do damage between cooldowns, thanks for the feedback guys! :)
Very goodJob! This is the First Guide that is very helpfull. Thank you for that and pls Go on with this ❤
@tobihans5326 thanks so much! I'll try to make more guides soon.
Thanks for this video man. Never played affliction before but I switch cos its highest lock rank for S1 WW. This helped me a lot. This class is hard to play for fast movement runs, you really need to sit with this spec to hit those numbers.
So glad it helped! Keep practicing.
Nice guide
Fantastic guide
Appreciate you homie
I can't get past the part that we have a move called Vile Taint lol
Oh my gosh I’ve never thought of it that way
@@PULAG "tainting himmmm" you'd like our stream puns. 🤣
nice video! what race would you recommend? human or orc?
@@qorda1337 orc for max damage. Human for pvp to run double trink. But I mean... for the horde.
How do you make the agony macro? So i dont have to click on all the targets. But just one and then spam it
I use tab for the agony refresh and then you can use a focus macro to get back to your priority target
Thank you for the good guide.
Thank you for the support
Hey bro, how do you get to see the spells you used in the middle of your screen? To keep track of which spell you used
@@batserke6006 trufiGCD addon in curse forge. There's now an addon video up that includes settings.
Badass video, bro! Btw I like your UI setup, its clean. Do you have an import code? I'd like mine to look simiar
@@BEASTscriber would an addon / UI video be helpful soon?
@@ogsikko definitely
Talent pages on wowhead etc always have drain soul chosen but i see so many on youtube still using shadowbolt that cleaves? Is it a single target/cleave situation?
@PillsburyNinjaKneadingJustice situational. Drain allows you to gather shards moving from pack to pack and it has an execute modifier. Shadowbolt out performs in damage on short engagments.
@@ogsikko should my AOE soul harvester build be shadow bolt cleave then? Like a m+ build essentially
Interesting that your stat priority is reverse of what everyone else suggests. I gotta say I really do feel that lack of haste with this long opener and refreshes. Any other word in this?
@Crittek for single target affliction benefits heavily from crit > mast > haste. This is probably most of the info you're finding on stats. For mythic and pvp I find hast/crit > mast pumps the packs, most likely due to the increased amount of targets being hit. Hope this helps!
@@ogsikko Thanks that was my thought but I also don’t sim or pull out spreadsheets so I just figured my assumptions were wrong and stacked a bunch of crit and mastery lol
@@Crittek crit and mastery is great still! You'll pump the bosses and be able to raid!
Why would you cast seed of corruption last ( in my opinion should be first) . You lose so much damage from wither , also using malevolence before seed of corruption(wither not aplied) is a collosal mistake. Why would u suggest such opener its absurd..
@@peshodobrev911 Absolutely good catch, seed of corruption prior to vile taint and soul rot. I pinned a comment above with the rotation. Thanks for the feedback!
that was insane!
I tried this. One pack I pull 3m+ dps, other pack I pull 600k. This is very situational or I am simply bad at it. I prefer my 2m every pack with demonology over this. Consistency is better for me.
Play what you enjoy! Maybe a little demo guide soon?
how do you AOE as Aff-Soul Harvester in M+ when VT and SR are on cooldown? which seems very often and ill fight more packs with no CDs up.
If you cant use vile taint. Make sure to Seed > Haunt > UA your priority target. That will get your corruptions rolling. From there you can manually cast 5x agony or if you have shards and VT is 5 sec from cooldown you can rapture dump. :)
@@ogsikko Ok because this seems critical in M+ as you are going to be attacking more packs the VT/SR on CD than if you have then up. Also, you may have to skip a pack because the boss is next and you need the CDs for the boss. And Id still wish someone would do a video just on this part. Every video I see, no one has yet even talked about trash as Aff when CDs are not up.
@@randomhuman19 depending on your team you may be the guy who needs to clear the trash with cds while your team uses them on boss. Sometimes the dos meters don't tell the whole story. Swing by the stream sometime and maybe I can show you. I pinned a comment above with situations thanks for the feedback!
did bro malevolence before seed? isnt malevolence meant to flare up withers? shouldnt the withers be applies before you malevolence?
misspoke while doing the live example. Sorry boys, pinned comment has the correct rotation.
you never want to use soul rot before vile taint as far as I know.
In an ideal rotation correct, but in actual practice what I find is that Soul Rot can hit all of the mobs while the tank groups them and vile taint (cast at a location) may miss some as the tank moves the pack. The most important thing is that you have the haste from soul rot to rapture spam and that you dont overcap shards.
@@alpfeanor6431 you can stagger a smidge, but yes generally you’d keep them synced together as much as possible for those rapture windows.
any mods you recommend to keep track of haunt/ua/agony debuff on the target(s)?
Thats the problem with Affliction for me. When you need addons to play it, then its trash.
@@ultrapeachykeenmonster you can just use tidy plates to see dots above the target.
@@ogsikko ok i'll take a look. i thought tidyplates was deprecated
Do you still feel the same about hell caller? I have been playing soul harvester... But I'm new to the spec.
@mylinuxstruggle5495 hellcaller is getting wither nerfs but currently outperforms soul harvester in longer engagements. The 1min cd is also very consistent and lines up with soul rot.
I find it strange that everyone is indicating as priority stats Crit/Mast/hast/vers, I'm super lost
When I sim for myself, it’s crit/mast/haste=verse. At this item level, haste doesn’t do a ton to help our spender (malific rapture) due to being capped based on shards available or procs. Stat prio may change with higher levels of haste. But atm every sim I’ve done and seen + Kalamazis info is prio crit/mast/haste. But also sim ur toon, stat weights are different for everyone based on gear and stat levels ect.
@@squidsgames1270 good reply. Make sure to sim your character!
whats your ilvl when making this video?
@cambokidd215 below 600. I believe it was 595 in week 1 of TWW.
"5x agony" does that mean i cast agony 5 different times on the same target?
@@ultrapeachykeenmonster 5 different targets to make use of vile taint when agony is below 10sec
arcane mages be like "i do this dps single target". time to nerf arcane again lol
🤣 just had an ele sham do 860k dps in heroic. Next closest dps was my lock in destro at 550k. RIP.
Stuffed cave peppers made my character pass out mid fight for 19.3 sec. Don't use it
@@PULAG must've had a bad batch. Seems like crit food is also a good option.
I can't take anything seriously that someone who uses default plates says
@@nicklili2560 sometimes less is more. I prefer a clean UI that doesn't hinder gameplay if an addon fails.
lol what a douche 🙄