One thing I wonder about Molten Freddy is how intelligent it is as a whole, as judging by the death line "Together again!" Molten Freddy does seem to recognize Michael
I love how this video presents Molten Freddy as a characters that suffers so much. People often ignore how painful and tragic it is to BE Molten Freddy. He's a mass of wires and eyes that constantly bleeds and suffers. We can hear the electricity coming out of its body. Whether if the spirits or the AI are in control, his voicelines and sounds just make it so apparent that they're so confused, and in pain. It's so heartbreaking to me.
I firmly believe in MCI Alter-S. Analysing Henry's Insanity and True Ending Monologue confirms to me that yes William took animatronic endos during "Follow Me" and melted them into Remnant. Injected into Funtime Animatronics that later become Molten Freddy who is confirmed to me as having MCI souls based on Fruity Maze minigame, Gravestones and Henry saying that it's time for them to rest implying they didn't yet. However Cassidy/TOYSHNHK/Vengeful Spirit/Golden Freddy speaking through Orville Elephant says that Henry tried to release Afton and him(one of the MCI kids). But he will not let William pass on. Looking at Fazbear Frights and Andrew attaching himself to William and him being burned I say that Cassidy attached himself to William as well. Keeping him alive. Since Fnaf 1 there were no physical depiction of GF Suit(Mask in Fnaf 3 is in shadow and in the Good Ending it's gone) so William could not take his endo. I'd say it is a perfect variant of the Molten MCI. Candy Cadet Stories are obviously not about William combining five kids into one.
I've always wondered, if Molten MCI is true, and William was taking the parts back, and then going to the location again, was there like a Great Flood of '93 for it to be raining the entire time? I'm just imagining William soggily dragging an endoskeleton and questioning all of his life choices as he raids an abandoned building during mass amounts of rain
the reason he has to pretend to be a nightguard is in the owner that everyone knows walks in and suddenly kids get killed he'll get pointed as the killer. he had to be sneaky to experiment and murder people, and so that if he was fired (as seemingly happened) it would be under a fake name with no ties to him and his reputation.
I love the idea you have on Mangle! I thought it was a previous experiment involving possession where William started out with Susie’s dog or something. I never thought that it could’ve been an archaic experiment about remnant.
The 5 actually being Gabriel, Susie, Fritz, Jeremy AND Elizabeth, William never dismantled the Golden freddy suit or anything like that, there would have been no endo skeleton at all to collect remnant, instead in the FNaF movie we see the golden freddy kid who is obviously Cassidy able to wander off without the suit which gives Cassidy this unique gimmick different to all the Missing kids and explain how it’s able to beat the living daylights out of William
I'm so glad to see an expansion on this theory, it's always been one of my favourites from you! Completely agree with that interpretation of the orphan story, and I never considered the discrepancy of Cassidy never helping the rest of the MCI but that seems so obvious in retrospect. One thing I will say is that it seems likely that Molten Freddy does have a leader in Gabriel, considering how it's Molten *Freddy* but that's just a minor thing. I hope this more theory neutral take on the matter will allow it to be more widely accepted by the Stitchline crowd, but I don't have high hopes for people like Zain Ahmed.
@@randomrhino4371 I bet that they're even gonna forget that Squawks wasn't focusing on TOYSNHK and more on the fact that Golden Freddy seems to be absent 😭
The 4 missing kids and the vengeful spirit have always felt like separate entities with different motives and journeys that once had a connection, so it makes sense that the vs would be mostly independent of the other kids instead if beeing her own thing at first then merging with them and lastly be her own character once again I also love how you made a point of the suffering of the kids in molten freddy confused and angry because of how much they went through it adds this disturbing angle that we have missed since fnaf one
I agree with your conclusion, however, in the FNAF movie Golden Freddy does seem aware that William is the killer but doesn't let the other animatronics know. I don't think Cassidy is a "good guy" like we think they are
Well the movie seems to be based on the best liked fan theories and books. Not sure how canon we can see it regarding the games. It did show though that Casidy can be a boy though. A boy in a stripped shirt.
With Molten Freddy, I’ve always interpreted his existence as coming from the Toys scrapped parts, not the Originals. Two ways this makes perfect sense is either; 1) The Toys use parts from the Originals as we know, making them haunted by the Original 5 kids. Or 2) they are possessed by 5 new kids from the fnaf2 minigame since the original 5 theoretically had their ‘happiest day’ wherever that was canon or not at the end of fnaf3. Either way, when they are scrapped at the end of fnaf2 it’s perfect for Afton to use their parts for the Funtimes, because in the fnaf 3 mini game, he destroys the animatronics but doesn’t he die that same night? He leaves all the Original’s parts on the floor before being killed cause of the 5 spirits, but maybe he dismantled one and came back each night
my guess is after the spirits were freed in the fnaf 3 minigames and william was springlocked, the vengeful spirit latched on to springtrap making sure william still felt pain when he came back, and keeping him trapped in the suit during the fires. By fnaf 6, william was so used to the pain he was able to talk again, so after the fire, the vengeful spirit created UCN as a new torture
The spirits were not freed in FNAF 3. Henry directly confirms they're still around by FNF 6 in his Insanity Ending speech, AND in the Connection terminated speech. Molten Freddy is, like, EXTREMELY haunted, by AT LEAST 4 children (a.k.a. the og MCI kids, Gabriel, Suzie, Jeremy and Fritz)
6:45 the thought that Willie A is a nutbar psycho who is out there stacking younglings _while also_ sitting in his home office/lab giggling to himself as he names his robot line “Funtimes” because he watched Mangle do weird things because of possession is…. Both upsetting, and such a bizarre character detail I can’t help but find it endearing. (And this isn’t me being trash for my fav villain, I genuine despise William. It’s just… really odd to imagine Purple/Yellow themed Bunny-man laughing to himself over the name each time he sees it.)
We know there was a "party" down in the bunker where Afton and Baby went to collect spare parts. Is there any chance, at all, that Molten Freddy is whatever was left down there set loose? In the Enard minigame (Help Wanted) we see those parts of four endos being melted down, but Enard is already wandering around on it's own. Could it be that it's it's own monster, or the minigame shows us literally setting the bunker on fire in which case Ennard meltd down with those four animatronics to create Molten Freddy aka all the dead children from all the murders smooshed together (MCI/DCI kids)? Because ask yourself; why was Ennard stable / not melting down, but Molten Freddy is? Doesn't it seem like Molten Freddy goes through some additional event to make it like that?
@@darkidk341 That is the most direct, obvious explaination for Molten Freddy. All I am suggesting is that Molten Freddy has the additional property of it actively melting so that might suggest it has experienced something to cause that effect. In my mind it would seem to make the most sense if either Ennard, or those endos in the furnance somehow catch on fire / overheat. Another explaination could be it's just the remaining ennard, but that it's taken enough damage to start overheating on it's own without being exposed to some external heat source.
For a real plot twist; what if Cassie's Dad helped the VR team by lending them parts of his collection? Bonnie Bro collected anything Fazbear related; what if he had the logbook Mike doodled in? Not on purpose, but because he got in on that auction as soon as he could. At the end of FNAF3 it is stated that everything remaining after the fire will be auctioned off. The sticky-note in the logbook apologizes that this one was already written in; implying that it was advertised as not being used, but then the seller realized it was used after having sold it (a one-star ebay seller, me thinks). That sticky note and the end of FNAF3 makes me think it is a children's activity book that was sold at the gift shop; Mike doodled in one (remember how boring night one is and how phone dude implies you've already been working here for a while with nothing to do) and left it behind. I would even dare to suggest that him doodling in the activity book might have summoned the spirits / drummed up the haunting like how in a horror flick a bunch of teenagers do something that accidentally "summons" or "awakens" a haunt.
@Modmangoingmad *Yes* but also no. I have a variant on MoltenMCI in which Happiest Day released the *ghosts,* but not their *Agony.* UCN is basically Cassidy and/or Puppet enmeshed into and probably controlling every other spirit's *pain,* which is how they can use Springtrap to kick William's own ass. Then, when UCN falls apart *as a game,* the ghost of it turns into the Blobby Tangle thing. It's an angry mass of *FÙCK YOU WILLIAM AFTON* which scoops up Burntrap and squishes him back in, whether it's *actually* any part of William or not.
@@terreliv While I can see Charlie being in UCN I can't see her torturing William considering one of her lines is "I don't hate you but you need to stay out of my way" (not that it disproves your theory Cassidy is still there I'm just saying Charlie isn't an option) With the blob being Cassidy/UCN I disagree. That's it I just don't think Cassidy is the blob (Also the burntrap ending isn't canon).
All credit to sh1zuh31- they posed a really interesting theory where, just like the classic parts used in the toys, golden freddys physical parts were used in the classics, and thats why they're appearances are so spectral and changing through the games with the others/where they are in sl; withered, classic, yendo, ect) Would love to hear your thoughts on it
personally I've never thought that Golden Freddy was haunting a suit at all.. I've always thought that golden freddy is haunting the spirits of the dead children... that golden freddy was their friend and would have been put in a suit but we know that something about golden freddy is different.. like maybe golden freddy never really got the suit like the other kids also shown in the mini game where the puppet puts the masks on the dead kids except for golden freddy an i think this is what it's telling us.. is that the puppet helped tie the souls to the animatronics but possible couldn't find the golden freddy suit or it didn't have the parts needed for the possession to take place like maybe there was no metal in the golden freddy suit or it was just out of range but regardless the 5th kid doesn't get a suit like the 4 kids do and i think from that point on the soul of the 5th kid ends up haunting the souls of the other 4... technically i guess shatter theory might work like the 5th kids soul was shattered and each of the 4 kids gets a piece of the 5th kids soul but i don't believe that is the case.. i believe that the 5th kid doesn't remember who they are or anything other than the 4 kids were their friends and so they haunt the 4 kids and when william comes and tries to take the suits the 5th kid ends up protecting them or at least trying to...
I honestly never even thought that Cassidy _could_ be in Molten Freddy. Yes to the other MCI, but never Cassidy, since we're never shown William tearing apart Golden Freddy. So yes i very much agree.
I definitely think that Golden Freddy is a part of Scraptrap and had their parts stolen by him rather than being part of Molten Freddy, but I want to point out that there _wouldn't_ be a fifth endo in the furnace because Golden Freddy is a springlock suit. It doesn't _have_ an endo. Golden Freddy is a shell with springlocks in it. If it was melted in the furnace, it would be just a pile of springlocks and pieces of metal. Personally I think that it's just the four endos in the furnace, but since they're such a jumbled up mess, it's hard to tell. I don't know if they're separated into four models in the files or individual pieces (I would assume four models but I can't be sure).
The point of a Springlock isn’t that it doesn’t have an endo it’s that the endo can be moved out of the way. We see very clearly Springtrap has an endo.
Not only could Molten Freddy’s body be melting from all the spirits contained within him, but also from the friction of the various loose metal that makes up the bottom most part of him rubbing on the ground and on it’s self. His body is most likely have to endure friction from dragging him self along the ground, along with friction from the metal rubbing on itself and on top of the metal that drags across the ground.
there's always that one character who always has to be he quirky one in a theory, though I never asked why Cassidy had to specifically focus on BV over the others when we don't see her do that, and also kinda depends on if she set up FNaF world she still isn't directly helping the others either, a whole other entity is there doing all those clock minigames.
It could be very likely that the Spirits from FNAF 3 are their own thing, separate from the Remnant in the Funtimes. Not the they are different identities, rather that when some metal was taken out from the original animatronics, only part of their spirits actually went into the Funtimes, such that both the Funtimes and the Spirits can be around at the same time. This would enable Happiest Day to still occur during FNAF 3 while Molten Freddy is crawling around in the Sewers.
Adopting the kids and bringing them together in one place and then sewing them together and burying them could be FNAF 6 and thusly Henry, but I'm not sure about the knock on the door
I’ve kinda had a theory that foxy GOGoGO mini game is a failed experiment I call it the PCI poisoned cupcakes incident and William tried killing kids in the pizzaia but there wasn’t enough pain or suffering to cause them to possess and also not being being stuffed
12:38 Ive allways been under the assumption that golden freddy doesn't have a exo. This would explain why they are a ghost like figure, unlike the others they cant walk around so they have to find another way around. If you go under the assumption that golden freddy and Fred bear are the same then this makes more since. After the tragedy at fredbeards, the suits are decommissioned, their exo skeletons removed because the animtronics exo's allow them to roam and do other regular robot stuff. Spring Bonnie also has no exoskeleton when afton uses it and gets spring locked. While this could be explained by him using the suit previously, its more likely that the suits were kept, but never planned to be used again, explaining the missing exos. There is no exo for golden freddy because it was removed/destroyed around he closing of fredbears
@@Bupropionville Mangle's completed form is called Funtime Foxy. A different funtime Foxy from the one in SL- but canonically still called funtime Foxy. The main difference being the lack of the split plates and a pirate hook. This was established in FNaF world and later on cemented in merch.
I didn’t think golden Freddy was ever a part of molten mci. Cuz he isn’t dismantled in the fnaf 3 cutscenes it just shows a spirit in its place which is going after afton obviously that’s Cassidy. And then in the happiest day stuff that’s crying child so golden Freddy’s spirits split up there. Crying child rests in that game but since fnaf 6 was about loose ends that’s why mci remnant is addressed in molten Freddy and the planned custom night was to address Cassidy but was put into its own game.
7:19 It does, though. ToyDCI, Phone Guy tells us the animatronics only started acting up after SAVETHEM. Although it is likely the bodies were moved, seeing the trail of blood, and being generous they were originally more close to the toys, allowing possesion. Why do you usually dismiss ToyDCI? I feel like it is the straightforward answer. Do you not find it narratively satisfying?
I'm split on it tbh. I think if they were the other 5 kids in happiest day I'd be more on board with it but as it is it kinda goes nowhere. The toys already have the parts of the originals and all kinds of weird new tech to blame for their activity- so it'd just kinda make them extra possessed. Then the kids never get mentioned again or freed really from there other than just assuming between 3'd fire destroying their shells and the animatronics being scrapped implying they may have been written out of the story largely offscreen. It doesn't really effect the point of the video that much though- as Mangle is active early regardless.
@@siresquawks I see. I think the implication is they were freed after they were scrapped somehow. But yes, the plotline does go nowhere. I would just at least like a mention to ToyDCI, though, like what you do with PuppetStuff vs WillStuff or VengefulCassidy vs VengefulAndrew.
I don't have much evidence for it, but I wonder if maybe Happiest Day is putting only the Bite victim to rest, while the other souls are put to rest in FNAF 6
I don't believe MoltenMCI, but I do believe Molten Freddy to be the vessel for Golden Freddy, 100%. Haunted Plush Fredbear -> Yenndo -> Ennard -> Molten Freddy -> Tangle. Remember what Puppet said: "The others are under MY protection." Plus, the spirits were still attached to their animatronic parts at the FNAF 3 location so... 🤷♂
How exactly do you not believe MoltenMCI at this point. FFPS confrms Molten Freddy is possessed by the 5 Missing Kids on FOUR separate occasions-- The Insanity Ending, The True Ending, Candy Cadet, the Molten Freddy blueprint. Then, Help Wanted straight up shows the endos of the Classics melted together in Afton's furnace at Baby's. THEN there's the entirety of The Fourth Closet which literally parallels FFPS (Afton freed from the springlocks, Baby trying to making him proud, Charlie asleep, and then most importantly, the Amalgamation, which is confirmed to be an explanation for Molten Freddy in the Ultimate Guide. He burns in a fire as the Missing Children are put back together). Oh, and there's also the fact that Molten Freddy's design is just the FNAF 3 Bad Ending personified, hense the otherwise random orange left eye
When i think of the survival log book instead of it being cassidy, cc and mike what if its charlott cc and mike, cause its confirmed in fnaf 4 n 6 that the puppet isnt apart of the amalgamation and if she could or wpuld reach anyone i think it would be golden freddy the next most powerful, but if gf is the one who cant see or is the altered text it makes sense for mike and the puppet to be the barely visible text As for why he comes back i imagine william to be the business inventer of the two, but while we know "mangle" was not durrable or well constructed (taken from the fact he could be pulled apart by litteral kids) he probably knew they needed to be upgraded with the remnant from the only source he had readly avaliable
The logbook says "MY NAME" for the Cassidy Clues and "The party was for you" "it was for me" for the other character. It's Cassidy and The Bite Victim. Always has been. I really don't want to be a hardass about this but unless the puppet is named Cassidy the connections just don't work.
@@siresquawks agreed but who's to say that cassidy is a seprate spirit and not the crying child themselves, in every iteration we have seen the golden freddy spirit has only been one person even In faster frights novels golden freddy is possessed by one kid and that's Andrew cassdy could very well be a name for Gf since fnaf is first a story about family then a story about consciousness It fits narrativly and evidence wise
The logbook clearly states that the spirit asking questions to the altered text is Cassidy. Every single clue to the Cassidy name puzzle without fail in some way has “my name” written in faded text associated with it. It’s a misconception from Duel Process that it also always or interchangeably uses altered text but it doesn’t in the way that faded text is used. The faded text is ALWAYS there but altered text is just used a handful of times- the same way mikes writing is used a handful of times. Unless Mike is also Cassidy that would imply Cassidy’s identity isn’t bound to the numbers of the puzzle but the clues and end result- as that’s the only through line throughout the book. From there- there isn’t any proof the bite victim and Cassidy are the same person- only proof to the contrary.
@@Gathaspar-k8r it's definitely possible but I'm also thinking about the story of the 5 keys from candy cadet, where a woman tries to save 5 kids and winds up trapping all of them there
Not only does his golden Freddy like abilities only appear in custom night but Molten Freddy only has one yellow eye for Funtime foxy, Baby doesn’t say Yendo has been in the scooping room when saying all of the others, and molten Freddy’s blueprint just says “Ballora, Funtime Freddy, Funtime Foxy”
Re the whole golden freddy missing thing, dual process theory’s idea of the springlock suit in SL night 4 being golden freddy could fix that problem. Or are we to assume that it’s the springlock baby from the movie?
Golden Freddy doesn't have a 4-way split face. Baby states the springlock suit came from her old pizzeria also- which makes this even stranger of a connection.
@@Cross_Corp64 it's not necessarily a bad thing it's good to have other options (even if they are less likely) it's just the way that MoltenMCI believers explain how GF is not dismantled yet Cassidy's spirit is in molten freddy is...stupid. According to MoltenMCI believers the after William got springlocked Cassidy........somehow knew where the MCI were (apparently this is because of Cassidy's and the other 4 MCI kids.....bond i think) and when she got to the underground bunker instead of trying to help her friends or lead them back to the pizzeria or honestly do anything else she decided to possess......Yenndo??? Wah?
@ If Golden Freddy is Yenndo, I feel like it slightly indicates that Cassidy isn’t part of Molten Freddy. That’s because Yenndo isn’t said to be part of Molten Freddy and there’s absolutely no evidence to say it’s… “confirmed” I feel like there’s this echo chamber where people cherry pick things from the books and shoehorn the concept into the games’ lore.
Haven't played the games, but from my understanding is that is the actual death order given that Cassidy is the crying child and is counted as part of the MCI. So it's very possible that before Cassidy's death his father was already killing kids. However, after being put into a coma he was put into the Fredbear animatronic and consequently Spring locked as a result. So after Cassidy died William killed Charlie who is the one he should not have killed.
@@zenvariety9383 Crying Child is not Cassidy, or counted as part of the MCI. That theory has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Also Charlie isn't vengeful, it's established by the voiceline "I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way" that she doesn't care if Afton's suffering as long as he isn't causing suffering
wait so does SL happen before fnaf 1 and 2? if so, how can the MCI kids posses funtime and molten freddy? if not then why was Michael in fnaf 1? sorry if this doesn't make sense i'm very tired and confused
I don't understand your point about traditional MoltenMCI making a plothole with the soul splitting memories. If Cassidy is part of Molten Freddy, she could have just been scooped multiple times and not remember things as well, no? May you elaborate on why that is a problem.
Because it's factually not the case in the logbook (or the novels with brooks)? They don't attack Michael and are still very clearly sentient and are the one asking the bite victim what he remembers with no implications they have forgotten anything- in fact they can seemingly search through or learn things about the bite victim without him prompting it. To me that doesn't seem like a kid who's mentally destroyed from being taken apart over and over again. That point alone didn't mean as much as things it led into in the video. Unless Happiest day was retconned and the logbook's events are completely disconnected from real events in the series- Happiest day should've happened in 3 when all of the needed characters were in one place for example- or that Cassidy apparently didn't help the other kids since by happiest day they still are in their weird limbo worlds, and it also rules out things like Cassidy in the logbook being just the remnant of Cassidy from the scooper as by Fright's logic that would make Mike a living tracking beacon for molten freddy.
@@siresquawks OK but what about duel theory's video and game theory's response to said video. While I definitely agree that CC isn't the Vengeful spirit at least currently the name argument does make some sense and faded text is the only one who communicates with Mike and CC. We know the Puppet was physically there in FNAF 3 so Michael would be aware of them and know Charlie possessed the Puppet which lines up with the grave Mike drew is what Faded text interacts with meaning they know they are dead which the Puppet is one of the only characters that are aware of this
Could u pls tell me the music at the start of the video I think I may have asked a similar question before so I am sorry if this is redundant but I know that if I knew the song name i wouldn't have the need to ask so I am doing it again
Yeah, it does, I believe both. In fact, I'd say it works better with GoldenDuo considering the whole logbook point, requiring both souls to be at the FNAF 3 location.
@@NahuelLaxaltRuiz in my mind, he was either in FNAF World at that point, or just didn't want to see the gruesome death of family member and was waiting off screen EDIT: also should probably mention that he didn't exist when FNAF 3 was made, so therefore any "evidence" for or against GoldenDuo prior to FNAF 4 should be disregarded
Haven't played the games or read the books, but I think Cassidy is the crying child and Michael is the Vengeful Spirit. Dual Process Theory makes a good point in their video.
They really don't. The logbook makes it extremely clear that the faded text and altered text are two spereate characters and their points for them being the same ignore details like Mike giving clues to the puzzle- by the logic that the altered text (the bite victim) is cassidy Mike should be cassidy as well. There is literally nothing to imply the faded text isn't the character named Cassidy when you remember that fact. If they are the faded text who's sperate from the altered text- then Cassidy is not the bite victim.
@@siresquawks wouldn't the faded text be Charlie though? Cassidy as a little girl never appears in any of the games judging by the mini games. Ergo it would make more sense for the crying child to be Cassidy aka the altered text and the faded text to be Charlie. Sure I enjoy watching and listening to theories, but when people try to link the books to the games in a literal sense it creates holes in said theories. To me the books are either hints of what is possible or concepts to be considered for the games. So if one to only look at the games and put two and two together it would form a better idea of that the Cassidy is the crying child and also part of the MCI given that children were already starting to go missing leading up to his birthday.
@@illuminAxel_ProductionsKids don't need to be stuffed into animatronics to possess them. Charlie wasn't stuffed into the Puppet. Their bodies need to at least touch them based on the games. But in Fazbear Frights books Jake possessed Simon Doll that was in his room when he died and in "Jump for the Tickets" story the guy crushed by the jumping platform is implied to possess Coils the Clown who protected the entrance leading to under the platform. The animatronic was just nearby when he died.
Remnant (What moltenMCI is built on) is literally haunted metal. No Endo- no remnant- no ghost bear in Molten Freddy. Nothing to extract in the first place And there's still no shell or costume. Also, golden freddy does have an endo? It's a springlock suit. Those have endoskeletons- just like springtrap.
@@siresquawks Maybe it's possible when Afton dismantled the gang, GF was in suit mode and didn't have an Endo in him at the time, and Afton wasn't aware which one was for Bonnie and which was for Freddy so he let it be before he got springlocked.
One thing I wonder about Molten Freddy is how intelligent it is as a whole, as judging by the death line "Together again!" Molten Freddy does seem to recognize Michael
That’s true
that line feels like it’s just a reference to them using mike as a skin suit though
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He could also be referring to the rest of the remnant that's in Micheal
Like their remnant is together again
It has an IQ of 3 collectively
"One big happy family" is also odd.
I love how this video presents Molten Freddy as a characters that suffers so much. People often ignore how painful and tragic it is to BE Molten Freddy. He's a mass of wires and eyes that constantly bleeds and suffers. We can hear the electricity coming out of its body. Whether if the spirits or the AI are in control, his voicelines and sounds just make it so apparent that they're so confused, and in pain. It's so heartbreaking to me.
28:20 don’t forget that one of Molten Freddy’s jumpscare lines is straight-up smth like “KNOCK KNOCK, it’s me!” The orphans knocking at the door…
Just to help you remember the exact quote, "Knock Knock, I'm here!"
Finally!!!!!!!!
Also congrats on getting shouted out in the newest Game Theory. Very well deserved!
Did they shout him out? I think I missed it
@@ZeroNightBlaze0 it was at the 40 second mark, they showed his profile picture on screen
@@randomrhino4371 Ah right, thanks for saying ^-^
I firmly believe in MCI Alter-S.
Analysing Henry's Insanity and True Ending Monologue confirms to me that yes William took animatronic endos during "Follow Me" and melted them into Remnant. Injected into Funtime Animatronics that later become Molten Freddy who is confirmed to me as having MCI souls based on Fruity Maze minigame, Gravestones and Henry saying that it's time for them to rest implying they didn't yet.
However Cassidy/TOYSHNHK/Vengeful Spirit/Golden Freddy speaking through Orville Elephant says that Henry tried to release Afton and him(one of the MCI kids). But he will not let William pass on.
Looking at Fazbear Frights and Andrew attaching himself to William and him being burned I say that Cassidy attached himself to William as well. Keeping him alive.
Since Fnaf 1 there were no physical depiction of GF Suit(Mask in Fnaf 3 is in shadow and in the Good Ending it's gone) so William could not take his endo.
I'd say it is a perfect variant of the Molten MCI.
Candy Cadet Stories are obviously not about William combining five kids into one.
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I've always wondered, if Molten MCI is true, and William was taking the parts back, and then going to the location again, was there like a Great Flood of '93 for it to be raining the entire time? I'm just imagining William soggily dragging an endoskeleton and questioning all of his life choices as he raids an abandoned building during mass amounts of rain
I mean, there are just places where rain is common.
@@WinterPains and southern utah is not one of them
@@Novae_Z I don't think we have reason to say the games are limited to Utah though?
"Where did everything go so wrong...? Was it the mass child murder...? No no, of course not."
the reason he has to pretend to be a nightguard is in the owner that everyone knows walks in and suddenly kids get killed he'll get pointed as the killer. he had to be sneaky to experiment and murder people, and so that if he was fired (as seemingly happened) it would be under a fake name with no ties to him and his reputation.
I love the idea you have on Mangle!
I thought it was a previous experiment involving possession where William started out with Susie’s dog or something. I never thought that it could’ve been an archaic experiment about remnant.
The 5 actually being Gabriel, Susie, Fritz, Jeremy AND Elizabeth, William never dismantled the Golden freddy suit or anything like that, there would have been no endo skeleton at all to collect remnant, instead in the FNaF movie we see the golden freddy kid who is obviously Cassidy able to wander off without the suit which gives Cassidy this unique gimmick different to all the Missing kids and explain how it’s able to beat the living daylights out of William
I'm so glad to see an expansion on this theory, it's always been one of my favourites from you!
Completely agree with that interpretation of the orphan story, and I never considered the discrepancy of Cassidy never helping the rest of the MCI but that seems so obvious in retrospect.
One thing I will say is that it seems likely that Molten Freddy does have a leader in Gabriel, considering how it's Molten *Freddy* but that's just a minor thing.
I hope this more theory neutral take on the matter will allow it to be more widely accepted by the Stitchline crowd, but I don't have high hopes for people like Zain Ahmed.
Well yeah but the leader is just as broken and confused as the others
@@randomrhino4371 I bet that they're even gonna forget that Squawks wasn't focusing on TOYSNHK and more on the fact that Golden Freddy seems to be absent 😭
@@Eddbruh83 yeah probably, but at least the UCNDissent crowd might be convinced
@@randomrhino4371 Hopefully 🙏
But ain't every Stitchliner pretty much UCNDissent? How else do you explain Golden Freddy's presence?
@@Eddbruh83 idk man, I'm pretty sure some don't and just say Andrew is linked to Fredbear in some way
The 4 missing kids and the vengeful spirit have always felt like separate entities with different motives and journeys that once had a connection, so it makes sense that the vs would be mostly independent of the other kids instead if beeing her own thing at first then merging with them and lastly be her own character once again I also love how you made a point of the suffering of the kids in molten freddy confused and angry because of how much they went through it adds this disturbing angle that we have missed since fnaf one
I agree with your conclusion, however, in the FNAF movie Golden Freddy does seem aware that William is the killer but doesn't let the other animatronics know. I don't think Cassidy is a "good guy" like we think they are
Well the movie seems to be based on the best liked fan theories and books. Not sure how canon we can see it regarding the games. It did show though that Casidy can be a boy though. A boy in a stripped shirt.
Its fancy weird bird thing time ✋️🙂↕️
With Molten Freddy, I’ve always interpreted his existence as coming from the Toys scrapped parts, not the Originals. Two ways this makes perfect sense is either; 1) The Toys use parts from the Originals as we know, making them haunted by the Original 5 kids. Or 2) they are possessed by 5 new kids from the fnaf2 minigame since the original 5 theoretically had their ‘happiest day’ wherever that was canon or not at the end of fnaf3. Either way, when they are scrapped at the end of fnaf2 it’s perfect for Afton to use their parts for the Funtimes, because in the fnaf 3 mini game, he destroys the animatronics but doesn’t he die that same night? He leaves all the Original’s parts on the floor before being killed cause of the 5 spirits, but maybe he dismantled one and came back each night
babe wake up sire uploaded
its a good day when the weird bird thing uploads a video
I wonder what’s your thoughts on the random encounters musical timeline
Like it. Goofy.
Banger video as always. Worth the wait, also think your art and sprite work is fantastic.
Bro has made me question MoltenMCI more than I already did.
@@Eddbruh83 MoltenGiraffeMCI
So much stuff happens that say it’s not possible but then multiple things say it happened so it’s so weird
@@circusdremfnafsmp6845 Exactly.
@@matthew...4961 The real answer.
@@circusdremfnafsmp6845The problem is that MoltenMCI was not planned at the time of Fnaf1-4 and that's why not everything fits.
Yooo..new sire squawks video!
my guess is after the spirits were freed in the fnaf 3 minigames and william was springlocked, the vengeful spirit latched on to springtrap making sure william still felt pain when he came back, and keeping him trapped in the suit during the fires. By fnaf 6, william was so used to the pain he was able to talk again, so after the fire, the vengeful spirit created UCN as a new torture
The spirits were not freed in FNAF 3. Henry directly confirms they're still around by FNF 6 in his Insanity Ending speech, AND in the Connection terminated speech.
Molten Freddy is, like, EXTREMELY haunted, by AT LEAST 4 children (a.k.a. the og MCI kids, Gabriel, Suzie, Jeremy and Fritz)
6:45 the thought that Willie A is a nutbar psycho who is out there stacking younglings _while also_ sitting in his home office/lab giggling to himself as he names his robot line “Funtimes” because he watched Mangle do weird things because of possession is….
Both upsetting, and such a bizarre character detail I can’t help but find it endearing.
(And this isn’t me being trash for my fav villain, I genuine despise William. It’s just… really odd to imagine Purple/Yellow themed Bunny-man laughing to himself over the name each time he sees it.)
as a firm believer of Molten MCI Alter S, i'd like to suggest a different name to make it more concise and comprehendable: MoltenMissing4
I get what you’re saying- but the digimon reference refuses to die and the damage has been done
We know there was a "party" down in the bunker where Afton and Baby went to collect spare parts. Is there any chance, at all, that Molten Freddy is whatever was left down there set loose? In the Enard minigame (Help Wanted) we see those parts of four endos being melted down, but Enard is already wandering around on it's own. Could it be that it's it's own monster, or the minigame shows us literally setting the bunker on fire in which case Ennard meltd down with those four animatronics to create Molten Freddy aka all the dead children from all the murders smooshed together (MCI/DCI kids)? Because ask yourself; why was Ennard stable / not melting down, but Molten Freddy is? Doesn't it seem like Molten Freddy goes through some additional event to make it like that?
i always thought it was because elizabeth was ejected from ennard
@@darkidk341 That is the most direct, obvious explaination for Molten Freddy. All I am suggesting is that Molten Freddy has the additional property of it actively melting so that might suggest it has experienced something to cause that effect. In my mind it would seem to make the most sense if either Ennard, or those endos in the furnance somehow catch on fire / overheat. Another explaination could be it's just the remaining ennard, but that it's taken enough damage to start overheating on it's own without being exposed to some external heat source.
finally new squawks theory
For a real plot twist; what if Cassie's Dad helped the VR team by lending them parts of his collection? Bonnie Bro collected anything Fazbear related; what if he had the logbook Mike doodled in? Not on purpose, but because he got in on that auction as soon as he could. At the end of FNAF3 it is stated that everything remaining after the fire will be auctioned off. The sticky-note in the logbook apologizes that this one was already written in; implying that it was advertised as not being used, but then the seller realized it was used after having sold it (a one-star ebay seller, me thinks).
That sticky note and the end of FNAF3 makes me think it is a children's activity book that was sold at the gift shop; Mike doodled in one (remember how boring night one is and how phone dude implies you've already been working here for a while with nothing to do) and left it behind. I would even dare to suggest that him doodling in the activity book might have summoned the spirits / drummed up the haunting like how in a horror flick a bunch of teenagers do something that accidentally "summons" or "awakens" a haunt.
Thoughts on Vanzolin's recent theory about the FNAF 1 location, William's motives, and Phone Guy?
3:15 maybe so his name doesn't have any involvement in the crimes he's currently doing in his own restaurant
I think he was a suspect already, and banned from the restaurant, which could be why he'd need a disguise.
I would like to note that The New Kid suggests Golden Freddy was locked in a storage closet. So I think that's where he is the entire time.
31:55 ALSO that would explain the Blob. It's Molten Freddy 2: Electric Boogaloo
Are the MCI in the blob by this logic?
@Modmangoingmad *Yes* but also no. I have a variant on MoltenMCI in which Happiest Day released the *ghosts,* but not their *Agony.*
UCN is basically Cassidy and/or Puppet enmeshed into and probably controlling every other spirit's *pain,* which is how they can use Springtrap to kick William's own ass.
Then, when UCN falls apart *as a game,* the ghost of it turns into the Blobby Tangle thing. It's an angry mass of *FÙCK YOU WILLIAM AFTON* which scoops up Burntrap and squishes him back in, whether it's *actually* any part of William or not.
@@terreliv While I can see Charlie being in UCN I can't see her torturing William considering one of her lines is "I don't hate you but you need to stay out of my way" (not that it disproves your theory Cassidy is still there I'm just saying Charlie isn't an option)
With the blob being Cassidy/UCN I disagree.
That's it I just don't think Cassidy is the blob (Also the burntrap ending isn't canon).
I really like this idea Molten Freddy is basicly a bunch of people shattered and melted back to together
The king is back!
All credit to sh1zuh31- they posed a really interesting theory where, just like the classic parts used in the toys, golden freddys physical parts were used in the classics, and thats why they're appearances are so spectral and changing through the games with the others/where they are in sl; withered, classic, yendo, ect)
Would love to hear your thoughts on it
personally I've never thought that Golden Freddy was haunting a suit at all.. I've always thought that golden freddy is haunting the spirits of the dead children... that golden freddy was their friend and would have been put in a suit but we know that something about golden freddy is different.. like maybe golden freddy never really got the suit like the other kids also shown in the mini game where the puppet puts the masks on the dead kids except for golden freddy an i think this is what it's telling us.. is that the puppet helped tie the souls to the animatronics but possible couldn't find the golden freddy suit or it didn't have the parts needed for the possession to take place like maybe there was no metal in the golden freddy suit or it was just out of range but regardless the 5th kid doesn't get a suit like the 4 kids do and i think from that point on the soul of the 5th kid ends up haunting the souls of the other 4... technically i guess shatter theory might work like the 5th kids soul was shattered and each of the 4 kids gets a piece of the 5th kids soul but i don't believe that is the case.. i believe that the 5th kid doesn't remember who they are or anything other than the 4 kids were their friends and so they haunt the 4 kids and when william comes and tries to take the suits the 5th kid ends up protecting them or at least trying to...
the art you draw for your thumbnails looks so cool!
I honestly never even thought that Cassidy _could_ be in Molten Freddy. Yes to the other MCI, but never Cassidy, since we're never shown William tearing apart Golden Freddy. So yes i very much agree.
I definitely think that Golden Freddy is a part of Scraptrap and had their parts stolen by him rather than being part of Molten Freddy, but I want to point out that there _wouldn't_ be a fifth endo in the furnace because Golden Freddy is a springlock suit. It doesn't _have_ an endo. Golden Freddy is a shell with springlocks in it. If it was melted in the furnace, it would be just a pile of springlocks and pieces of metal. Personally I think that it's just the four endos in the furnace, but since they're such a jumbled up mess, it's hard to tell. I don't know if they're separated into four models in the files or individual pieces (I would assume four models but I can't be sure).
The point of a Springlock isn’t that it doesn’t have an endo it’s that the endo can be moved out of the way. We see very clearly Springtrap has an endo.
@@siresquawks Ohh that's a good point
Not only could Molten Freddy’s body be melting from all the spirits contained within him, but also from the friction of the various loose metal that makes up the bottom most part of him rubbing on the ground and on it’s self. His body is most likely have to endure friction from dragging him self along the ground, along with friction from the metal rubbing on itself and on top of the metal that drags across the ground.
there's always that one character who always has to be he quirky one in a theory, though I never asked why Cassidy had to specifically focus on BV over the others when we don't see her do that, and also kinda depends on if she set up FNaF world she still isn't directly helping the others either, a whole other entity is there doing all those clock minigames.
It could be very likely that the Spirits from FNAF 3 are their own thing, separate from the Remnant in the Funtimes. Not the they are different identities, rather that when some metal was taken out from the original animatronics, only part of their spirits actually went into the Funtimes, such that both the Funtimes and the Spirits can be around at the same time. This would enable Happiest Day to still occur during FNAF 3 while Molten Freddy is crawling around in the Sewers.
I didn't know people thought Golden Freddy was part of Molten MCI?
I've been wondering where they were in Pizza Sim the whole time.
Adopting the kids and bringing them together in one place and then sewing them together and burying them could be FNAF 6 and thusly Henry, but I'm not sure about the knock on the door
Such a morbastic video
Sh1zuh31 recently made a video about Golden Freddy that you might want to check out, I think it might answer some of your questions.
No one is talking about the amazing cell joke at 28:27 🤣🤣
I’ve kinda had a theory that foxy GOGoGO mini game is a failed experiment
I call it the PCI poisoned cupcakes incident and William tried killing kids in the pizzaia but there wasn’t enough pain or suffering to cause them to possess and also not being being stuffed
12:38
Ive allways been under the assumption that golden freddy doesn't have a exo.
This would explain why they are a ghost like figure, unlike the others they cant walk around so they have to find another way around.
If you go under the assumption that golden freddy and Fred bear are the same then this makes more since. After the tragedy at fredbeards, the suits are decommissioned, their exo skeletons removed because the animtronics exo's allow them to roam and do other regular robot stuff.
Spring Bonnie also has no exoskeleton when afton uses it and gets spring locked.
While this could be explained by him using the suit previously, its more likely that the suits were kept, but never planned to be used again, explaining the missing exos.
There is no exo for golden freddy because it was removed/destroyed around he closing of fredbears
6:42 Toy Foxy/The Mangle of Fnaf 2 and Funtime Foxy of SL are two different Foxys. Otherwise good video
I never said they were the same?
@@siresquawks ''Mangle's completed form'' ? Sorry if I got confused
@@Bupropionville Mangle's completed form is called Funtime Foxy. A different funtime Foxy from the one in SL- but canonically still called funtime Foxy. The main difference being the lack of the split plates and a pirate hook.
This was established in FNaF world and later on cemented in merch.
the tfs reference caught me so off guard lmfao
I didn’t think golden Freddy was ever a part of molten mci. Cuz he isn’t dismantled in the fnaf 3 cutscenes it just shows a spirit in its place which is going after afton obviously that’s Cassidy. And then in the happiest day stuff that’s crying child so golden Freddy’s spirits split up there. Crying child rests in that game but since fnaf 6 was about loose ends that’s why mci remnant is addressed in molten Freddy and the planned custom night was to address Cassidy but was put into its own game.
7:19 It does, though. ToyDCI, Phone Guy tells us the animatronics only started acting up after SAVETHEM. Although it is likely the bodies were moved, seeing the trail of blood, and being generous they were originally more close to the toys, allowing possesion. Why do you usually dismiss ToyDCI? I feel like it is the straightforward answer. Do you not find it narratively satisfying?
I'm split on it tbh. I think if they were the other 5 kids in happiest day I'd be more on board with it but as it is it kinda goes nowhere. The toys already have the parts of the originals and all kinds of weird new tech to blame for their activity- so it'd just kinda make them extra possessed. Then the kids never get mentioned again or freed really from there other than just assuming between 3'd fire destroying their shells and the animatronics being scrapped implying they may have been written out of the story largely offscreen.
It doesn't really effect the point of the video that much though- as Mangle is active early regardless.
@@siresquawks I see. I think the implication is they were freed after they were scrapped somehow. But yes, the plotline does go nowhere. I would just at least like a mention to ToyDCI, though, like what you do with PuppetStuff vs WillStuff or VengefulCassidy vs VengefulAndrew.
That's fair.
Why does Henry look like Scott Cawthon?
They both “make” animatronics and we’ve never seen them in the same room…
I don't have much evidence for it, but I wonder if maybe Happiest Day is putting only the Bite victim to rest, while the other souls are put to rest in FNAF 6
I don't believe MoltenMCI, but I do believe Molten Freddy to be the vessel for Golden Freddy, 100%. Haunted Plush Fredbear -> Yenndo -> Ennard -> Molten Freddy -> Tangle. Remember what Puppet said: "The others are under MY protection." Plus, the spirits were still attached to their animatronic parts at the FNAF 3 location so... 🤷♂
How exactly do you not believe MoltenMCI at this point. FFPS confrms Molten Freddy is possessed by the 5 Missing Kids on FOUR separate occasions-- The Insanity Ending, The True Ending, Candy Cadet, the Molten Freddy blueprint. Then, Help Wanted straight up shows the endos of the Classics melted together in Afton's furnace at Baby's. THEN there's the entirety of The Fourth Closet which literally parallels FFPS (Afton freed from the springlocks, Baby trying to making him proud, Charlie asleep, and then most importantly, the Amalgamation, which is confirmed to be an explanation for Molten Freddy in the Ultimate Guide. He burns in a fire as the Missing Children are put back together). Oh, and there's also the fact that Molten Freddy's design is just the FNAF 3 Bad Ending personified, hense the otherwise random orange left eye
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When i think of the survival log book instead of it being cassidy, cc and mike what if its charlott cc and mike, cause its confirmed in fnaf 4 n 6 that the puppet isnt apart of the amalgamation and if she could or wpuld reach anyone i think it would be golden freddy the next most powerful, but if gf is the one who cant see or is the altered text it makes sense for mike and the puppet to be the barely visible text
As for why he comes back i imagine william to be the business inventer of the two, but while we know "mangle" was not durrable or well constructed (taken from the fact he could be pulled apart by litteral kids) he probably knew they needed to be upgraded with the remnant from the only source he had readly avaliable
The logbook says "MY NAME" for the Cassidy Clues and "The party was for you" "it was for me" for the other character. It's Cassidy and The Bite Victim. Always has been. I really don't want to be a hardass about this but unless the puppet is named Cassidy the connections just don't work.
@@siresquawks agreed but who's to say that cassidy is a seprate spirit and not the crying child themselves, in every iteration we have seen the golden freddy spirit has only been one person even In faster frights novels golden freddy is possessed by one kid and that's Andrew cassdy could very well be a name for Gf since fnaf is first a story about family then a story about consciousness It fits narrativly and evidence wise
The logbook clearly states that the spirit asking questions to the altered text is Cassidy. Every single clue to the Cassidy name puzzle without fail in some way has “my name” written in faded text associated with it. It’s a misconception from Duel Process that it also always or interchangeably uses altered text but it doesn’t in the way that faded text is used.
The faded text is ALWAYS there but altered text is just used a handful of times- the same way mikes writing is used a handful of times. Unless Mike is also Cassidy that would imply Cassidy’s identity isn’t bound to the numbers of the puzzle but the clues and end result- as that’s the only through line throughout the book. From there- there isn’t any proof the bite victim and Cassidy are the same person- only proof to the contrary.
What if happiest day didn't work? What if Charly messed it up and ruined the mci's chance of moving on?
I think that it just didn't happen and the Bad Ending was the True Ending in Fnaf 3.
@@Gathaspar-k8r it's definitely possible but I'm also thinking about the story of the 5 keys from candy cadet, where a woman tries to save 5 kids and winds up trapping all of them there
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What are your thoughts on BlackoutMM?
Alter S sweep!
what about Yenndo? he behaves like golden freddy in custom night and can(rarely) show up in Funtime Auditorium Night 3
Not only does his golden Freddy like abilities only appear in custom night but Molten Freddy only has one yellow eye for Funtime foxy, Baby doesn’t say Yendo has been in the scooping room when saying all of the others, and molten Freddy’s blueprint just says “Ballora, Funtime Freddy, Funtime Foxy”
@@siresquawks i guess that is true
Re the whole golden freddy missing thing, dual process theory’s idea of the springlock suit in SL night 4 being golden freddy could fix that problem. Or are we to assume that it’s the springlock baby from the movie?
Golden Freddy doesn't have a 4-way split face. Baby states the springlock suit came from her old pizzeria also- which makes this even stranger of a connection.
This is an amazing video, :)
i think that TFC already puts moltenMCI as the obvious awnser for the puzzle
Thoughts on GoldenVictim?
28:26 TFS REFERENCE
What are your thoughts on the theory made by dual process?
Common MoltenMCI Alter-S enjoyer hear ☕️
Edit: Really I think this does makes a lot sense than OG MoltenMCI
Wake up Sire, ITP’s Fetch minigame seems to confirm MoltenMCI Alter-S!!!
And people are still finding ways to deny it.
@ Yeah, it’s annoying and redundant.
It’s time to evolve
@@Cross_Corp64 it's not necessarily a bad thing it's good to have other options (even if they are less likely) it's just the way that MoltenMCI believers explain how GF is not dismantled yet Cassidy's spirit is in molten freddy is...stupid.
According to MoltenMCI believers the after William got springlocked Cassidy........somehow knew where the MCI were (apparently this is because of Cassidy's and the other 4 MCI kids.....bond i think) and when she got to the underground bunker instead of trying to help her friends or lead them back to the pizzeria or honestly do anything else she decided to possess......Yenndo??? Wah?
@ If Golden Freddy is Yenndo, I feel like it slightly indicates that Cassidy isn’t part of Molten Freddy. That’s because Yenndo isn’t said to be part of Molten Freddy and there’s absolutely no evidence to say it’s… “confirmed”
I feel like there’s this echo chamber where people cherry pick things from the books and shoehorn the concept into the games’ lore.
@ Oh they explain that by saying that she just follows them again and possesses Molten freddy.
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What about the new death order we got in Help Wanted 2? Or is this before the potential retcon?
Haven't played the games, but from my understanding is that is the actual death order given that Cassidy is the crying child and is counted as part of the MCI. So it's very possible that before Cassidy's death his father was already killing kids. However, after being put into a coma he was put into the Fredbear animatronic and consequently Spring locked as a result. So after Cassidy died William killed Charlie who is the one he should not have killed.
@@zenvariety9383 Crying Child is not Cassidy, or counted as part of the MCI. That theory has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
Also Charlie isn't vengeful, it's established by the voiceline "I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way" that she doesn't care if Afton's suffering as long as he isn't causing suffering
wait so does SL happen before fnaf 1 and 2? if so, how can the MCI kids posses funtime and molten freddy? if not then why was Michael in fnaf 1? sorry if this doesn't make sense i'm very tired and confused
It's after both as far as I'm concerned
I don't understand your point about traditional MoltenMCI making a plothole with the soul splitting memories. If Cassidy is part of Molten Freddy, she could have just been scooped multiple times and not remember things as well, no? May you elaborate on why that is a problem.
Because it's factually not the case in the logbook (or the novels with brooks)? They don't attack Michael and are still very clearly sentient and are the one asking the bite victim what he remembers with no implications they have forgotten anything- in fact they can seemingly search through or learn things about the bite victim without him prompting it. To me that doesn't seem like a kid who's mentally destroyed from being taken apart over and over again.
That point alone didn't mean as much as things it led into in the video. Unless Happiest day was retconned and the logbook's events are completely disconnected from real events in the series- Happiest day should've happened in 3 when all of the needed characters were in one place for example- or that Cassidy apparently didn't help the other kids since by happiest day they still are in their weird limbo worlds, and it also rules out things like Cassidy in the logbook being just the remnant of Cassidy from the scooper as by Fright's logic that would make Mike a living tracking beacon for molten freddy.
My birthday was 3 days ago you were late with the present lol
Nothing says the thing in SLs source code is about the closure, it could be about cbears and take place years later
It specifically is in response to “closed due to leaks”
@@siresquawks oh damn
@@siresquawks well that’s something I gotta tell the server I’m In
Would the theory work if the Puppet is faded text in the log book instead of the vengeful spirit?
No on the account that Charlie isn’t Cassidy as far as we know.
@@siresquawksbut what makes faded text actually connected to the Vengeful spirit?
@@DJBurns-jq8mn Nothing but the puppet's name isn't Cassidy meaning it's not the puppet. Simple as that.
@@siresquawks OK but what about duel theory's video and game theory's response to said video. While I definitely agree that CC isn't the Vengeful spirit at least currently the name argument does make some sense and faded text is the only one who communicates with Mike and CC.
We know the Puppet was physically there in FNAF 3 so Michael would be aware of them and know Charlie possessed the Puppet which lines up with the grave Mike drew is what Faded text interacts with meaning they know they are dead which the Puppet is one of the only characters that are aware of this
Could u pls tell me the music at the start of the video I think I may have asked a similar question before so I am sorry if this is redundant but I know that if I knew the song name i wouldn't have the need to ask so I am doing it again
Fazerblast Jam Unused version that switches to the used version at the end.
@@siresquawks thank u thank u
I really like alter-s, but I also believe in goldenduo (BV and cassidy) does this theory work with goldenduo? Because I know moltenmci does not
It should to an extent- it's actually more flexible than some give credit IMO
Yeah, it does, I believe both. In fact, I'd say it works better with GoldenDuo considering the whole logbook point, requiring both souls to be at the FNAF 3 location.
@@randomrhino4371 so do cassidy and BV fuse together? because BV is not in follow me
@@NahuelLaxaltRuiz in my mind, he was either in FNAF World at that point, or just didn't want to see the gruesome death of family member and was waiting off screen
EDIT: also should probably mention that he didn't exist when FNAF 3 was made, so therefore any "evidence" for or against GoldenDuo prior to FNAF 4 should be disregarded
@@randomrhino4371 makes sense
Haven't played the games or read the books, but I think Cassidy is the crying child and Michael is the Vengeful Spirit. Dual Process Theory makes a good point in their video.
They really don't. The logbook makes it extremely clear that the faded text and altered text are two spereate characters and their points for them being the same ignore details like Mike giving clues to the puzzle- by the logic that the altered text (the bite victim) is cassidy Mike should be cassidy as well. There is literally nothing to imply the faded text isn't the character named Cassidy when you remember that fact. If they are the faded text who's sperate from the altered text- then Cassidy is not the bite victim.
@@siresquawks wouldn't the faded text be Charlie though? Cassidy as a little girl never appears in any of the games judging by the mini games. Ergo it would make more sense for the crying child to be Cassidy aka the altered text and the faded text to be Charlie.
Sure I enjoy watching and listening to theories, but when people try to link the books to the games in a literal sense it creates holes in said theories. To me the books are either hints of what is possible or concepts to be considered for the games. So if one to only look at the games and put two and two together it would form a better idea of that the Cassidy is the crying child and also part of the MCI given that children were already starting to go missing leading up to his birthday.
It doesn’t. The faded text says every time a Cassidy clue “My name”. It’s name.
Can someone please summarize this
ghost bear no in metal wire monster- metal wire monster sad and has dementia
@@siresquawks sounds a lot like my grandma
4:29 aren't they also possessed by the kids in Save Them?
The DCI were never stuffed into the animatronics
@@illuminAxel_ProductionsKids don't need to be stuffed into animatronics to possess them. Charlie wasn't stuffed into the Puppet.
Their bodies need to at least touch them based on the games.
But in Fazbear Frights books Jake possessed Simon Doll that was in his room when he died and in "Jump for the Tickets" story the guy crushed by the jumping platform is implied to possess Coils the Clown who protected the entrance leading to under the platform. The animatronic was just nearby when he died.
@@Gathaspar-k8r That is actually a very good point tbh, I appreciate that!
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Golden Freddy not being in the furnace is easy to explain: He didn't have an Endo.
Remnant (What moltenMCI is built on) is literally haunted metal. No Endo- no remnant- no ghost bear in Molten Freddy. Nothing to extract in the first place And there's still no shell or costume. Also, golden freddy does have an endo? It's a springlock suit. Those have endoskeletons- just like springtrap.
@@siresquawks Maybe it's possible when Afton dismantled the gang, GF was in suit mode and didn't have an Endo in him at the time, and Afton wasn't aware which one was for Bonnie and which was for Freddy so he let it be before he got springlocked.
The endo doesn't just vanish in suit mode- it just moves to the outer edges of the costume.