Evolving Tanks Until I Reach TOP TIER in War Thunder!

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @Akira_Apostle_of_Ina
    @Akira_Apostle_of_Ina Рік тому +142

    Aww I was real hyped for a second when you were about to pick the Crusader 3 before you switched to the So-Ki. The Crusader 3 isn't the most amazing tank in the world, but damn it's my absolute favourite and I love drifting around corners in the urban maps with it.

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +42

      I like the crusader as well. It's a fun tank but i definitely played it way too much in the past so it was time to try something new

    • @Enteropy23
      @Enteropy23 Рік тому

      the british worst country

    • @Uzyvan6
      @Uzyvan6 Рік тому +2

      M19 is literally god tier a quick firing dual 40 ml. It’s AP belt can even penetrate certain versions of the kv1 and Churchill

    • @adamjindrisek585
      @adamjindrisek585 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Uzyvan6 The M42 duster is even better, but it's 4.3 in Japan(idk why) but same br as M19 in USA(4.0)

  • @null3752
    @null3752 Рік тому +10

    War Thunder Players: having the most shittiest awareness
    War Thunder Pro: having seizures from using binoculars a lot

  • @reinyfrost3753
    @reinyfrost3753 Рік тому +40

    15:03 Please do, in fact, reverse into battle with it. It works like IS-2 a part from the fact that you're most likely will have to fire extinguish / repair engine. Still better than getting 1-shot in the front plate xD

    • @ryangoslingIRL
      @ryangoslingIRL Рік тому +1

      heavy tank with no armor lol

    • @reinyfrost3753
      @reinyfrost3753 Рік тому

      @@ryangoslingIRL Yeah, but man does it become survivable if you show your ass

    • @Para-tc5uv
      @Para-tc5uv Рік тому +1

      You reverse with the IS2 actually sad

    • @reinyfrost3753
      @reinyfrost3753 Рік тому

      @@Para-tc5uv Yeah, I do. Not sure why it's sad though... xD

    • @Limabeangod
      @Limabeangod 9 місяців тому

      I shit my pants yesterday playing as the m26

  • @jdawwwgytb
    @jdawwwgytb Рік тому +154

    Im currently doing the Israeli tech tree since i finished the Russian tech tree.

    • @Satiista
      @Satiista Рік тому +11

      How long did it take you to research the entire line

    • @jdawwwgytb
      @jdawwwgytb Рік тому +41

      @@Satiista I've been play for eight years now I wanna say about two and a half years maybe three...... because I didn't take the game seriously in the beginning

    • @brwa777
      @brwa777 Рік тому +13

      @@jdawwwgytbbruh

    • @culturedman1310
      @culturedman1310 Рік тому +8

      ​@@jdawwwgytbgahh damn

    • @tankistrazumist
      @tankistrazumist Рік тому +17

      ​@@Satiistato get the T-80BVM, you need 3.3 million RP (this is 9k RP every day for a year). To get T-80BVM, Pantsir-S1 and 2S25M - 6.1million RP (16.7k per day). MiG-27M - 3.1million (9k per day).... MiG-27M, Su-17M4 and MiG-29 - 5.4million (15k per day). Ka-52 - 1.7million (5k per day).
      If you farm 330k RP every day, you will get MiG-27M and T-80BVM in 20 days.

  • @Kaiberus
    @Kaiberus Рік тому +6

    the reason why its called a churchill is because it takes the same amount of time to build a church on a hill thn for this thing to get up said hill

  • @michaelkoerner4578
    @michaelkoerner4578 Рік тому +25

    The T1E1 is amazing. Its everything the m6a1 should be. Also, we'd forgive you for rounding down or up .3 br

    • @Cinco555WasTaken
      @Cinco555WasTaken Рік тому

      for its br its okay, its armor is kinda weak but it has a good stab and gun

    • @Gringo.the.Bratan
      @Gringo.the.Bratan Рік тому

      Is it worth getting? im 2000 rp away

    • @_al1k_
      @_al1k_ Рік тому

      ​​​@@Gringo.the.Bratanyeah, I mean it's really similar to the m6a1 (duh), but I like it more because of the electric transmission; if something bad happens you can reverse really fast (I believe the reverse speed is 25 kph
      Other than that it feels and plays just the like the m6a1 for me.

    • @triplus198
      @triplus198 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@Gringo.the.Bratanit can go reverse pretty fast and if you wanna be annoying, you can go backwards like an is2 and watch as your gigantic b-17 engine absorb the 76s and 75s getting fired at you, turret is volumetric hell so theres no way anyone will pen that

  • @VicariousReality7
    @VicariousReality7 Рік тому +1

    11:55 Basically the question i constantly asked when switching from world of tanks

  • @NotAGepard
    @NotAGepard Рік тому +17

    Basically my idea for a challenge is to use a reserve tank from each nation except Israel, and hop into an 11.0. What you have to do is kill an mbt, an IFV and an spaa all in one match with that one tank.

  • @koenruysseveldt3848
    @koenruysseveldt3848 Рік тому +3

    The T1E1 is an MA61 but with an electric reverse drive(electric transmission) and that makes it even better that he MA61. And you have 2 guns so you can fool them if you and enemy are behind a corner and make them think you shot your main cannon and mseesed up,only works with unexperienced players though or when they are experienced but not quite awake yet.

  • @carrott36
    @carrott36 Рік тому +2

    Suffer in the Churchill III
    For the reward that is the VII when angled.

  • @dwiki428
    @dwiki428 Рік тому +1

    I just love the creator who does a challenge in war thunder

  • @clonetrooper596
    @clonetrooper596 Рік тому +10

    i would love to see you make a 2pl video, i think watching you play as it could help me improve of how to use it

    • @andreidragomir5360
      @andreidragomir5360 Рік тому +1

      If you don't have any other top tier to play it with don't play it. It works way better when in a lineup like other top tiers

  • @michaeledmunds7056
    @michaeledmunds7056 Рік тому +2

    "We're not here for points, we're not here to help our team, we're just looking for kills."
    So a completely normal game, then?

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому

      not for me, lol. I'm the one running between caps and helping repair team mates haha

  • @andrewchipman6556
    @andrewchipman6556 Рік тому +6

    Channel profile pic has been changed it will never be the same

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +4

      New look, same me

    • @Idkwhattoput151
      @Idkwhattoput151 Рік тому

      @@PanzerPaws long as you don’t take the potato man out of the vids, it will never be the same then

  • @wafflewhale9354
    @wafflewhale9354 Рік тому +5

    it wouldve been cool if you went up fragments of br's like 4.0 then 4.3 then 4.7, that would be tricky

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +1

      I thought about doing it but it was harder to keep track of. Maybe if assists counted as half points or something

    • @wafflewhale9354
      @wafflewhale9354 Рік тому

      @@PanzerPaw i was also thinking that while watching

  • @nightnovis
    @nightnovis Рік тому +3

    Love the new pfp

  • @Nick-rs5if
    @Nick-rs5if Рік тому +1

    For some reason, I like the term "French Iron Nuggets" way too much. I'm gonna start calling them that from now on. 😂

  • @jamesscalzo3033
    @jamesscalzo3033 Рік тому

    Loved the video @PanzerPaw! Can't wait for the next video man! I left an Interesting Challenge for you in your "Anime and Tanks WASN'T a Mistake" video for Ravenfield. The Challenge is to Play the "Project Altirus: The Second Leersog War" Series/Campaign by @Sofa. However, The Twist is that the Syrvainian's will be Using Soviet Tanks, Vehicles and Aircraft (Including those provided under Lend-Lease) and the Hettic's will be using German Tanks, Vehicles and Aircraft all from World War Two.
    You'll still be Stuck with the Warships and Transport Ships of Altirus since there aren't that many Warships from World War Two on the Steam Workshop, The Largest Collection of which is For Sofa's "Marshall Mayhem" pack and Various Pacific War Maps that He's made. So there's nothing for the Soviets in World War Two (which is Kinda Accurate to be fair) and Nothing for Anyone else in the Second World War aside from Imperial Japan, The United States of America and there are Some Ships for the Royal Navy but still not much.
    As for the M6 Heavy Tank, it's main gun is a 90 millimeter gun, The Same gun on the M26 Pershing Heavy Tank actually. The Armor for it leaves a Bit to be desired as seen in World of Tanks. You Can't really Angle your Armor because of the Cheek plates to the Left and Right along the Front of your Hull as Someone can line up a Shot and Penetrate you at those Spots.
    As for Anime, Anime and Tanks (Like Girls und Panzer) or even Anime and Warships (Azur Lane is the New Highest Standard) is Basically an Absolute Blessing. Not gonna lie though, but Prinz Eugen makes me do a Particular "JoJo" Meme every now and then! Even with Little Eugen, Eugen still wins me over with her Feminine Wiles.... But that doesn't make me a "Shrimp" LMAO!
    Let me know what you think about this man and I'll catch you in your next video man!

  • @youngchaosfernandes
    @youngchaosfernandes Рік тому +4

    You outta re-do this challenge with a .3 variance. So like if your at 4.0 you can play 3.7, 4.0 or 4.3. That way you have a little more variety.

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +3

      If I do it again, I might go up and down ranks instead of BRs. That'll give a huge spread of BRs to play with.

    • @youngchaosfernandes
      @youngchaosfernandes Рік тому

      @@PanzerPaw that would be cool too. You could also do planes with it. So if u could get to rank 4 tanks but only have 1 kill with a plane so ur only a rank 2 plane. Would def be interesting.

  • @douglaslinton1759
    @douglaslinton1759 Рік тому +1

    This guys rules made me drunk

  • @Ru251Fanboy-hv8js
    @Ru251Fanboy-hv8js 8 місяців тому

    A BT turning into a Leo on the thumbnail is wild

  • @CoolBluBoi
    @CoolBluBoi Рік тому +23

    New PanzerPaw Profile Picture 🤑🤑🤑

  • @TotallyNotAFox
    @TotallyNotAFox Рік тому +2

    Maybe I remember it wrong, but I think Armored Warfare had crew voices, too

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +2

      I think you might be right. But that version was more like World of tanks style where they're just responding in-game events. GHPCs crew is way more immersive and War Thunder actually managed to get something similar going. I'm just impressed they got it working as well as they did.

  • @ducaysanadan5146
    @ducaysanadan5146 7 місяців тому

    Bro broke the promise 2:18

  • @makoshark40
    @makoshark40 9 місяців тому

    Maybe do challenge of picking a tank from each rank to play and you move to the next faction when you atleast get idk five kills in a game and keep going till you at the max rank for each faction of what you got unlocked

  • @Bogus6
    @Bogus6 7 місяців тому

    You could count assists at .3 that would make a Intresting twist

  • @idkaname5243
    @idkaname5243 Рік тому +2

    new pfp it looks nice

  • @RickHoot-gc4zu
    @RickHoot-gc4zu 9 місяців тому

    I’m still playing with the T28 Russia tanks.
    And some of the American tanks as well.
    But game seems to be a one sided game.
    The enemy can shoot through a brick wall to damage my tank. I I’m pretty sure they are using 120 mm. Against 37mm and 76 mm
    guns. Eventually I would like to get a M1A2.
    I was a gunner in the Army and that’s what I used in Iraq. But anyway have fun playing.

  • @laughingtuxedo8265
    @laughingtuxedo8265 Рік тому

    I thins assists should allow you to go up or down to the nearest point like you got a assist and one kill at 1.0 so your next tank would be a 2.1 or what ever the lowest 2.0 tank you could use

  • @wafflewhale9354
    @wafflewhale9354 Рік тому +2

    also would be hard if you made it different to where if you got 2 kills but one death thats only one promotion

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I might step up the difficulty for future challenges. Depends on how much struggle everyone wants me to have lol

    • @wafflewhale9354
      @wafflewhale9354 Рік тому +1

      @@PanzerPaw wow thanks for responding, by the way where are you from? because you commanded a German tank but you dont have any German like accent? was it an imported tank form Germany?

  • @JenniferEngle-de1tf
    @JenniferEngle-de1tf Рік тому +2

    bro that ping tho

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +1

      Aussie internet. Sometimes I get 320, sometimes I get 190 with 45% PL. Can't get a break lol

  • @danikutya154
    @danikutya154 11 місяців тому

    6:36 bro has 272 ping. no wonder he's laggin

  • @seanperson2032
    @seanperson2032 5 місяців тому

    *pulls up in american m6 heavy tank
    "Well it is a heavy so.... some survivability?"
    M6: 😂 no

    • @seanperson2032
      @seanperson2032 5 місяців тому

      Now having watched the m6 section, you managed to bounce more shells in that one game than I think I ever did when I went through that tank. It's just a giant sponge that gets one shot by almost everything it comes against

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  5 місяців тому

      I put that down to people shooting at the turret gap and missing lol

  • @urkiddo_craig
    @urkiddo_craig Рік тому

    Good to know you have either watched or are watching therussianbadger. I can tell from the lvt premium

  • @Sleyzer556
    @Sleyzer556 11 місяців тому +1

    Bro predicted the leopard becoming 8.0

  • @mbeh420
    @mbeh420 Рік тому

    I started playing world of tanks a few months ago but I kinda got my problems with it.. how long does it take to get to top tier in warthunder?

  • @tschay1
    @tschay1 4 місяці тому

    "We are not out here for points, we are not out here to help our team, we´re just looking for kills" - Every high rank Warthunder player.. they playing solo

  • @xxlucario44xx47
    @xxlucario44xx47 2 місяці тому

    Crazy that youre not in the partnership programm

  • @ЗапаснойТипа
    @ЗапаснойТипа Рік тому

    u have to do a whole series out of it

  • @Swedishthunder131
    @Swedishthunder131 Рік тому +1

    I love the Leo 1

  • @nightnovis
    @nightnovis Рік тому

    1:48 how?????? Bt 5 is reserve tank and some modules are lock??????

    • @Madduckkk
      @Madduckkk Рік тому

      Wdym

    • @nightnovis
      @nightnovis Рік тому

      @@Madduckkk bt 5 is a reserve vehicle

    • @nightnovis
      @nightnovis Рік тому

      And already unlock all modules

    • @Madduckkk
      @Madduckkk Рік тому

      @@nightnovis I don’t understand are you trying to say how hasn’t he unlocked all modules ?

    • @nightnovis
      @nightnovis Рік тому

      @@Madduckkk yes and bt 5 is already unlocked all modules

  • @reinjocastaneda8759
    @reinjocastaneda8759 Рік тому +4

    Nice new pfp profile pic

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +1

      Thanks. I'm really happy with it.

  • @Achille_Sturm
    @Achille_Sturm Рік тому

    In France tech tree there is a 1.0 tank behind a reserve because it was too bad for new players to start with

  • @dontesnicu8178
    @dontesnicu8178 Рік тому

    Could you try beating 50 boming missions (on public servers) with a B-17 or B-29?

  • @AWholeChickenNugget
    @AWholeChickenNugget Рік тому +1

    An assist on a kill should count as 0.1 br, and if you don't get an assist and are killed, you lose 0.1 br, as in the video

    • @jadejudies
      @jadejudies Рік тому

      Hoe about 0.3 more br because there isn't anything like 9.1 and he may not get 3 or 7 assists

    • @AWholeChickenNugget
      @AWholeChickenNugget Рік тому +1

      @@jadejudies ok chill you dont need to be rude

  • @APOLON-bm7ym
    @APOLON-bm7ym Рік тому

    Sssr tanks until approx 5.0 and 85mm gun are very painfull to play (i happened to grind them these days), and only valid "one shoot killers" are tank destroyers... I also started italy, cuz I saw they have some nice tanks (turan3), but although I managed to destroy few vehicles, friendlies bullied me in that small L33 - i was stunned when it actually managed to destroy P3 with its single shooting 20mm gun... No not from the back or side, but through that drivers hatch. I was celebrating like nuts... Actually, germany has maybe best tanks upto 4.0, butlater on with ww2 tigers2 and panthers, against IS3 or other coldwar era tanks, thick armor just slow me down. Especially at 7.0, the step before m48 and Leo1...

  • @justgamingkade113
    @justgamingkade113 Рік тому

    Other people don't know our pain but WT player's know all of our pain

  • @mhmoodxdx
    @mhmoodxdx Рік тому

    I have a challenge for you go with a pt7 in a PR 11.3 and get at least two kills

  • @CT--ph9yj
    @CT--ph9yj Рік тому +1

    Can you do a light tank only challenge

  • @Breezy_alee
    @Breezy_alee Рік тому

    The leopard tank goes hard

  • @Grandbucket-cn5rz
    @Grandbucket-cn5rz 7 місяців тому

    Im at 7.7 with germany should i Switch to Amerika or russia

  • @Iamthepro4
    @Iamthepro4 Рік тому

    1.7k happy birthday

  • @Life_editzs
    @Life_editzs Рік тому

    I like these video :3

  • @marck5356
    @marck5356 Рік тому

    how u remove assist aim ?

  • @brodeybartlett1641
    @brodeybartlett1641 Рік тому

    Love the videos

  • @FuriousFire898
    @FuriousFire898 Рік тому

    Bro dissed the Crusader III for no reason

  • @CoolersAndUttpSmokers
    @CoolersAndUttpSmokers 3 місяці тому

    Is there’s an identity for those tanks in the thumbnail?

  • @Random_person-di9um
    @Random_person-di9um 8 місяців тому

    9:08 one second later

  • @Warbound
    @Warbound Рік тому

    Your almost in the exact Same places as me in both us and Germany

  • @fsdgi105
    @fsdgi105 Рік тому

    BT-5 is a god tier tank for me because I got at least 10 god mode badge with it

  • @poodlemeister22314
    @poodlemeister22314 4 місяці тому

    Oh, when you said go up in BR I thought you meant like 1.0 to 1.3, to 1.7, ect...woooooops

  • @usspopcatpolska8477
    @usspopcatpolska8477 Рік тому +1

    So reverse gun game

  • @OrangCarot
    @OrangCarot Рік тому +3

    i really like the new pfp

  • @JhonWickFuzileiro
    @JhonWickFuzileiro Рік тому

    I cant understand how you evolved an BT-5 into an Leopard 2 PL

  • @MoDMoX-58
    @MoDMoX-58 5 місяців тому

    good video

  • @caramanandreea9503
    @caramanandreea9503 Рік тому

    plz do it with french tanks next

  • @ugurkocadag4638
    @ugurkocadag4638 Рік тому

    how did bro go from bt5 to leo 2a4 at the thumbnail

  • @mrqureshisigma
    @mrqureshisigma 7 місяців тому

    Rear wheel steering? Nah back tires turning

  • @PatrikWT
    @PatrikWT Рік тому +1

    When he was 1.0 he got 3 kills but died once so he shouldve only jumped to 3.0 not 4.0

  • @svrk9165
    @svrk9165 Рік тому

    HE HAS THE RUSSIAN BADGER LVT OMG I love it xD

  • @lilpablo20tv81
    @lilpablo20tv81 6 місяців тому

    I liked the idea but not the execution like when u got the assist then died the assist should be counted as void bc u didn’t kill them and you died but didn’t drop a br

  • @GizemVelocity
    @GizemVelocity Рік тому +1

    Low tier Italy is hell

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +1

      Except for L3. L3 is best tank

    • @OrangCarot
      @OrangCarot Рік тому +1

      @@PanzerPaw I 100% agree. I bet it could take on an abrams! XD

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому

      Now I want to test that 🤔

    • @GizemVelocity
      @GizemVelocity Рік тому

      @@PanzerPaw good luck man

  • @IDouble
    @IDouble Рік тому

    Bro made up the rules as he went

  • @MuffHam
    @MuffHam Рік тому

    World of Warships. Just like this video.

  • @tomwalker8944
    @tomwalker8944 Рік тому

    Tried this, but only took me 2 games. :/
    Then again I wasn't sure of the rules, cause you changed them every 3minutes.

  • @coucoul38
    @coucoul38 Рік тому

    This is so easy, just get a nuke with reserve and you win 😊

  • @bruman182
    @bruman182 Рік тому

    Crazy that CSGO is what you think of for gun game.

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому

      If I referenced anything older, I'm pretty sure half the people watching wouldn't get it.

  • @GoldenVR76
    @GoldenVR76 Рік тому

    It’s called reserve to top teir

  • @Lio-z7y
    @Lio-z7y 2 місяці тому

    Maybe try doing grind challenge so u need to unlock 1 tank from each nation but speed the content up to not make the video 10 hours

  • @Nova4-4
    @Nova4-4 Рік тому

    U could do every assist is 0.3 br

  • @cmanmaxwell
    @cmanmaxwell Рік тому

    Crusader 2 is literally the best 2.0 tank wtf

  • @AvrylleObayan
    @AvrylleObayan 8 місяців тому

    hit the weak spots

  • @EkremSelim
    @EkremSelim Рік тому

    Content

  • @markmeola
    @markmeola Рік тому +2

    U have played csgo?

  • @DyonisX
    @DyonisX Рік тому

    How is your account so bad for being a CC, did you not join their program at all?

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому

      I did. But the account doesn't simply get everything unlocked by joining, or get a million GE.

  • @Isaacthegamer123
    @Isaacthegamer123 Рік тому +1

    Play Britain

  • @PVTParts472
    @PVTParts472 Рік тому

    brotha, ive got almost 200 hours and im not even past 5.0 tanks, i hate life

  • @randomamerican524
    @randomamerican524 Рік тому

    I’m at br of 5.3 and in br 6.7 soooo I’m pretty much doomed

  • @reinyfrost3753
    @reinyfrost3753 Рік тому

    16:45 3 kills so 5.0 -> 7.0 (3 kills - 1 death = 2 BRs higher? If 0 kills and 1 death, then go down a BR. If 1kill and 1 death, that means same BR. If 2 kills and 1 death ,that means br higher... so 3 kills and 1 death surely is 2 BRs higher?)

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому

      So, I was following the rules that I remember of gun game where 1 kill equals 1 upgrade. And normally you don't go down a level at all when you die unless it's to a knife. So I just treated every 0 kill death as a knife kill, essentially. It's not perfect but it's my first challenge idea

    • @reinyfrost3753
      @reinyfrost3753 Рік тому +1

      @@PanzerPaw fair enough. good video though!

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @VeitHammacher
    @VeitHammacher 11 місяців тому

    Bro has only 50 k subs? Is Yt broken? I watched him more than 3 months and I just noticed that. Tf

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  11 місяців тому

      I just hit 50K subs today actually:)

  • @benjammin3381
    @benjammin3381 Рік тому

    just one kill? How is this a challenge?

  • @DarpMasta_JDKg1375
    @DarpMasta_JDKg1375 Рік тому

    Now do ships

  • @יונתן-פ7צ
    @יונתן-פ7צ 10 місяців тому

    why bro didnt do israel ?

  • @Leopard2A444
    @Leopard2A444 Рік тому

    Is nobody going to question the thumbnail? That’s a fucking Russian bt5 (or 7) and it evolves into a fucking german leopard 2A4

    • @PanzerPaw
      @PanzerPaw  Рік тому

      Because that's what happens in the video lol

  • @thealmightytigor5308
    @thealmightytigor5308 Рік тому +4

    #bringbackyellowguypfp

  • @salieri_sg9413
    @salieri_sg9413 Рік тому

    Would be easier if you stopped pressing W all match, just sayin

  • @brunoalmeida918
    @brunoalmeida918 Рік тому

    nah the tumb is so wrong. bt5 urss to a lopard 2 in german tree

  • @VenomOG
    @VenomOG Рік тому

    Warthunder the game of sliders

  • @sixtenlyden4011
    @sixtenlyden4011 11 місяців тому

    I live in Sweden

  • @andrewanderson9896
    @andrewanderson9896 7 місяців тому +1

    You weren't doing it correctly. You were skipping BRs, you went from 1.0 to 3.0, instead of going 1.3 to 1.7 and such.