This is brilliant, in so many interpretations of the myth it's assumed they had advanced technology by our standards and not just what was impressive in the Bronze age like hot running water.
@@RippDrive if Poseidon actually manifested and built the place perhaps. However the description of the technology isn't some advanced alien computer systems and limitless energy as is so often expected. It's canals and plumbing, with good urban planning.
Those assumptions mainly come from a couple of psychics, one of which is seen as the most "believeable" psychics to have ever lived, since a lot of his predictions did come true, and he never accepted payment for his readings. The other one described atlantian technology as technology we know today, for example the internet, video calls across the globe, hand held phones, text to speech, and flying machines which ran on electricity which was transmitted through the air. he had no real education to speak of and claimed an angel was telling him about it. He described all of this in the 1800's. So thats who it comes from, and why some believed it to be true.
Interesting how he said it existed 9000 years ago .did he know about the ice age and the flooding that happened after that .because he wrote this over 2000 years ago .so that would be 11.000 years ago around the time the ice age ended.
Funny this weekend in my rec feed was this channel's very first one. Didn't pay attention to date but watched, liked, subbed then. Didn't know channel was in torpor for 5 years lol
I'm planning to design my house after Atlantis it's not going to be the same size obviously but it's going to have three channels where is Garden set up in between and some bridges and there's going to be a roundhouse with a tower that comes out the middle and there's going to be a very large Crystal on top of the tower the Crystal Tower. I'm basically going to grow a bunch of trees along the banks to hold them and then other things will be grown in different areas where it's appropriate
Guys we are atlantis, and we are actually living beneath an ocean , the dome is soo large, and we think that the sky is blue , actually its the ocean, we are buried deep down in a dome , like a fish bowl, these books are actually coming from the outside, they venture here, and atlantis is earth!
INCORRECT. THe account within the dialogue is that of Critias. The clue is in the name of the dialogue 😑 At no point of the dialogue is Plato mentioned, nor does any part of it appear to be written from his POV. The order of transmission of the story as written within the dialogue is: Egyptian ancestors -> Temple builders of Sais -> Sonchis of Sais -> Solon -> Critias's grandfather -> Critias.
This was only the text of the Kritias and beneath the false translation in the case of the floods it is hard to realise by a spoken text that this dialog is composed of two totally different parts: 1. The already composed text about Ur-Athens which was obviously the unfinished text of Solon which he wrote when he was back in Greece but could not finish because of his death. This is confirmed by the error in it: in the Timaios Kritias said that there was only one spring with no name in Ur-Athens of which the springs of his time were only remnants. But in the Kritias he calls the Eridanus which was one of the springs of his time the border of Ur-Athens. But meant was the river Etidanus between Europe and Hyperborea which was the border of the land ruled by Athene and Hephaistos. This mistake was caused by unaccurate keywords which Solon wrote down in Egypt. 2. The second part of the Kritias is a simple listing of points, containing the information which Kritias asked from his Grandfather. It shows what part of the story Kritias was interested in as a child, but it also contains one error: one of the points is inserted at the wrong position! This can be explained by the way this dialog was composed by Kritias which is told in the Timaios. Kritias realized all night long what his Grandfather has told him. Obviously this point came to his mind too late when he already was tired and thus he inserted it at the wrong location. Every single of these facts prove that the dialogs Timaios and Kritias (and the absend but in the Laws of Platon used Hermokrates) were real talks. It is a shame that the philologers (which were paid to do this) not even recognised this and instead tell the nonsense of the invention of the dialogs by Platon.
That would imply an ahistorical higher sea going lower, whereas Atlantis clearly was on the Atlantic plain, which was swallowed by the sea due to the end of the ice age.
@@therealquade "thats covered, the elevation changes over time, plate techtonics and magma bubbles and all that" You literally just hand waved non existent tectonic models. We know how plate tectonics work. It doesn't work like that.
@@mnomadvfx might wanna so much as check wikipedia before you try to play an uno-reverse. Look up "Dome (geology)" on wikipedia, and the richat structure is quite literally the ur example, The richat is a dome, that has since collapsed. Furthermore, the sand in the sahara is from the ocean floor, from a massive wave that carried it up. That's a fact, the only debate is on *when* it happened, and not that it had happened at all.
I've enjoyed many of Bright Insight's videos in the past, but he's completely wrong about Atlantis. Atlantis was off of the Iberian Peninsula in the north Atlantic ocean.
M.P. Courville and Jason Breshear's books prove to my satisfaction that Plato's years were lunar not solar. Even some of his Greek contemporaries knew it at the time. That puts Atlantis around the Bronze Age Collapse, in Northwest Africa. And I'm not talking about the Richat, though I'm still open to it as a possible location. I'm not fully convinced. There's simply no way it was 10,000 BC as there were no Greeks to have a war with at the time. The Berbers or Amazighs as they call themselves are likely their descendants. They were Phoenicians. The Amazigh flag is a glyph of Poseidon's.
Stupid interpretation! Even the fragments of Berossos in connection with the Sumerian kinglist confirm the date! And learn to read! Even the text says that the later Greeks were only the remnants of one of the tribes which inhabited Greece. This is in accordance with the statement that the population of Ur-Athens because of an earthquake sank into the earth in a single day and night. The original inhabitants of Greece were Pelasgians.
$10 says Atlantis was the Minoan civilization and the disaster mentioned in Plato's account is the major volcanic eruption that occurrsd on Therea (modern day Santorini) deatroying minoan settlements on that island
@MrDUneven definitely not. Solon got the account from Egypt, the egyptian old kingdom was contemporary with the minoans, they had contact and traded, the minoans had a bull cult as described in Plato's account, Santorini is an archipelago which had a central island with access to the sea before the eruption, the site of Akrotiri (buried under tons of ash) has frescos depicting this island showing a citadel on a central island with canals. The island at the center, and its city was destroyed in the eruption, along with the City, thus appearing to be swallowed by the sea. Only akrotiri survives. No evidence of human occupation exists at the eye ofSolon, or anywhere nearby. The minoans actually existed, but disappeared in part due to this cataclysmic eruption in the Mediterranean
@@Drew_McTygue doesn't Plato's account say about an island or group of islands one gets to sailing West through the Pillars of Heracles which is the Gibraltar Strait?
@@Drew_McTygue "Solon got the account from Egypt" This assumes the account within the dialogue is a factual account and not a framework of a story designed to convery a philsophical message to Athenians - something Plato is commonly known to have done before Critias and Timaeus. "The minoans actually existed, but disappeared in part due to this cataclysmic eruption in the Mediterranean" No. The Minoans did indeed exist - but they did not simply disappear after the Theran eruption. Whole communities on Crete were insulated from the post eruption tsunami on the south coast due to higher elevation and not facing towards Thera (Santorini's older Hellenic Greek name). After the eruption the island was likely easily conquered by Mycenae due to the impact to their various crops and trade weakenign all aspects of the civilisation. The remnants of the Minoan civilisation were effectively ruled over by Mycenae during that period. In all likelihood the Minoans integrated and assimilated into Mycenae and later Hellenic Greek society, just as the formerly warring Etruscans did into the Roman republic and empire.
The dyhastic Egyptian funerary rites evolved over time. The "book of the dead", or more accurately the "book of going forth by day" is the later, more stable version of them known most to the layman. The earliest version of their funerary rites we know of are the 'Pyramid Texts' first seen in the burial chamber of the Pyramid of Unas (last pharaoh of the 5th dynasty) - footage of it can be found in various videos on UA-cam.
I don't know about wars. The simple fact is that the Minoans were the dominant force of the Aegean in their time - superior on the water in every way. After the Theran eruption their entire society was badly impacted to the point that the Mycenaeans didn't need superior skills to conquer Crete. When the dust settled Mycenaean sailors in the Aegean would have found starving or broken Minoan communities disconnected, and very much in culture shock, probably believing that their gods had abandoned, or worse turned against them.
@@cftyftyufyfuyfty I've known a number of people who've flown over the north pole. No stories of anything interesting unfortunately :( Well, other than all the petrified forests up there.
wrong pole. Operation Highjump - 4,700 men, 70 ships (including 1 aircraft carrier with 33 aircraft). Totally normal, nothing to see here, carry on citizen. No pyramids here, look away.
long ago in a land far away there existed a great civilisation not unlike Rome. yet a great cataclysm happened and all its citizens died. the only people left to carry it's tradition and legacy, were outsiders unaffected.
The "outsiders" were not unaffected! According to the texts Egypt was occupied by Atlantis in the course of the war which occured about 9500 BC and was freed when Ur-Athens had defeated Atlantis. But then about 8500 BC according to the text Egypt had to be founded again. That means that Egypt was also affected by the flood which sank Atlantis and that this flood happened between 9500 and 8500 BC which means: about 9000 BC. And this date is confirmed by the fragments of Berossos (33.500 BC date of the first flood) and the Sumerian Kinglist (24.510 years, 3 months and 1/2 day duration of the dynasties after that flood!).
@@fedyno4reviews ah the le midwit sargonite fan response. Tell me were you a liberalist before it was cool? Fortuitously you haven’t bred so your children won’t inherit your impressive collection of sexually transmitted diseases. I am currently reading Locke
@Ancient Recitations great u postin again, ever considered posting bits of 'Elias Ashmole's Theatrum Chemicum Britannicum' theres a clear dearth here of swanky 1600s english with period-appropriate pirate/alchemist accent:D or 'The Lay of the Cid' or 'A Gest of Robyn Hode'? or rather more closely with the Atlantis topic checkout wiki/Valknut wiki/Tripura_(mythology)# The_construction_of_the_three_cities
I take it your Atlantis denial is over. About time.
keep it up, man, people really like these old audiobooks. The classics were loved for a reason.
I can’t believe it. This was my favourite side project of Carl’s - heck, my favourite UA-cam channel, period. I never thought I’d see it active again.
I was wondering why the narrator sounded like him. I just stumbled upon this channel.
The best channel on UA-cam is back
im so glad this channel isnt abandoned. its an absolute goldmine
Facts!
lol i thought he lost the password
If you set up a Patrion just for Ancient Recitations, I’d throw money at it. My absolute favourite kind of content.
This is brilliant, in so many interpretations of the myth it's assumed they had advanced technology by our standards and not just what was impressive in the Bronze age like hot running water.
Religion is a technology, and they were unquestionably more advanced than we are now.
@@RippDrive if Poseidon actually manifested and built the place perhaps. However the description of the technology isn't some advanced alien computer systems and limitless energy as is so often expected. It's canals and plumbing, with good urban planning.
Those assumptions mainly come from a couple of psychics, one of which is seen as the most "believeable" psychics to have ever lived, since a lot of his predictions did come true, and he never accepted payment for his readings.
The other one described atlantian technology as technology we know today, for example the internet, video calls across the globe, hand held phones, text to speech, and flying machines which ran on electricity which was transmitted through the air. he had no real education to speak of and claimed an angel was telling him about it.
He described all of this in the 1800's.
So thats who it comes from, and why some believed it to be true.
@@RippDrive
Religion is not technology.
@@mnomadvfx Which dictionary are you referencing?
Thank you for starting this channel up again, Carl.
I'm a visually disabled dude who jams out to your readings
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
this isn't good too have that name and profile pic its rude to us muslims.
Hello there.
I love your readings! Thanks.
Carl is threatened by the recent rise of up and coming narration channel @SkepticalWaves who reached 10K subs this week.
Congrats bro! Your channel taught me there are actually books worth reading after swearing off reading since high school.
I am really glad you are still making these.
Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock be like 🥰☝️😌
I'm here thanks to them
Damn, right when the story was getting interesting.
Interesting how he said it existed 9000 years ago .did he know about the ice age and the flooding that happened after that .because he wrote this over 2000 years ago .so that would be 11.000 years ago around the time the ice age ended.
Watched, liked, and shared immediately
Funny this weekend in my rec feed was this channel's very first one. Didn't pay attention to date but watched, liked, subbed then. Didn't know channel was in torpor for 5 years lol
I can't help but think this is a description of a secret society
Listening to this after reading a comment elsewhere describing this as an encoded medical book. IDK what it is.
Thanks for returning to this channel . From Hawaii cheers 🤙
Good to see this channel back
Welcome back man, Ive missed this channel
Necromancy! Necromancy of old channels!
Dang, what a cliffhanger, can't wait for the sequel!
I'm planning to design my house after Atlantis it's not going to be the same size obviously but it's going to have three channels where is Garden set up in between and some bridges and there's going to be a roundhouse with a tower that comes out the middle and there's going to be a very large Crystal on top of the tower the Crystal Tower.
I'm basically going to grow a bunch of trees along the banks to hold them and then other things will be grown in different areas where it's appropriate
Excellent content just how I like it.😎👍🏴☠
WAIT A MINUTE. Sargon's back to uploading here?!
Best channel ever
How nice! Thank you, sir! ☺👍
The last line is upsetting. :(
The pain is too real
Guys we are atlantis, and we are actually living beneath an ocean , the dome is soo large, and we think that the sky is blue , actually its the ocean, we are buried deep down in a dome , like a fish bowl, these books are actually coming from the outside, they venture here, and atlantis is earth!
This was just awesome to hear.
Yes! Plato speaks, via Swindon
INCORRECT.
THe account within the dialogue is that of Critias.
The clue is in the name of the dialogue 😑
At no point of the dialogue is Plato mentioned, nor does any part of it appear to be written from his POV.
The order of transmission of the story as written within the dialogue is:
Egyptian ancestors -> Temple builders of Sais -> Sonchis of Sais -> Solon -> Critias's grandfather -> Critias.
This was only the text of the Kritias and beneath the false translation in the case of the floods it is hard to realise by a spoken text that this dialog is composed of two totally different parts:
1. The already composed text about Ur-Athens which was obviously the unfinished text of Solon which he wrote when he was back in Greece but could not finish because of his death. This is confirmed by the error in it: in the Timaios Kritias said that there was only one spring with no name in Ur-Athens of which the springs of his time were only remnants. But in the Kritias he calls the Eridanus which was one of the springs of his time the border of Ur-Athens. But meant was the river Etidanus between Europe and Hyperborea which was the border of the land ruled by Athene and Hephaistos. This mistake was caused by unaccurate keywords which Solon wrote down in Egypt.
2. The second part of the Kritias is a simple listing of points, containing the information which Kritias asked from his Grandfather. It shows what part of the story Kritias was interested in as a child, but it also contains one error: one of the points is inserted at the wrong position! This can be explained by the way this dialog was composed by Kritias which is told in the Timaios. Kritias realized all night long what his Grandfather has told him. Obviously this point came to his mind too late when he already was tired and thus he inserted it at the wrong location.
Every single of these facts prove that the dialogs Timaios and Kritias (and the absend but in the Laws of Platon used Hermokrates) were real talks. It is a shame that the philologers (which were paid to do this) not even recognised this and instead tell the nonsense of the invention of the dialogs by Platon.
Great video.
As a 31 year old, I remember a lot of this.
Thanks
He’s back!
So, what do you think of Bright Insight's videos on atlantis being the eye of the sahara?
That would imply an ahistorical higher sea going lower, whereas Atlantis clearly was on the Atlantic plain, which was swallowed by the sea due to the end of the ice age.
@@mariussielcken thats covered, the elevation changes over time, plate techtonics and magma bubbles and all that.
@@therealquade
"thats covered, the elevation changes over time, plate techtonics and magma bubbles and all that"
You literally just hand waved non existent tectonic models.
We know how plate tectonics work.
It doesn't work like that.
@@mnomadvfx might wanna so much as check wikipedia before you try to play an uno-reverse. Look up "Dome (geology)" on wikipedia, and the richat structure is quite literally the ur example, The richat is a dome, that has since collapsed. Furthermore, the sand in the sahara is from the ocean floor, from a massive wave that carried it up. That's a fact, the only debate is on *when* it happened, and not that it had happened at all.
I've enjoyed many of Bright Insight's videos in the past, but he's completely wrong about Atlantis. Atlantis was off of the Iberian Peninsula in the north Atlantic ocean.
Reinvigorated
An original translation and not an interpretation ♥️♥️♥️♥️
M.P. Courville and Jason Breshear's books prove to my satisfaction that Plato's years were lunar not solar. Even some of his Greek contemporaries knew it at the time. That puts Atlantis around the Bronze Age Collapse, in Northwest Africa. And I'm not talking about the Richat, though I'm still open to it as a possible location. I'm not fully convinced.
There's simply no way it was 10,000 BC as there were no Greeks to have a war with at the time. The Berbers or Amazighs as they call themselves are likely their descendants. They were Phoenicians. The Amazigh flag is a glyph of Poseidon's.
Stupid interpretation! Even the fragments of Berossos in connection with the Sumerian kinglist confirm the date!
And learn to read! Even the text says that the later Greeks were only the remnants of one of the tribes which inhabited Greece. This is in accordance with the statement that the population of Ur-Athens because of an earthquake sank into the earth in a single day and night. The original inhabitants of Greece were Pelasgians.
$10 says Atlantis was the Minoan civilization and the disaster mentioned in Plato's account is the major volcanic eruption that occurrsd on Therea (modern day Santorini) deatroying minoan settlements on that island
It's in Eye of Sahara
@MrDUneven definitely not. Solon got the account from Egypt, the egyptian old kingdom was contemporary with the minoans, they had contact and traded, the minoans had a bull cult as described in Plato's account, Santorini is an archipelago which had a central island with access to the sea before the eruption, the site of Akrotiri (buried under tons of ash) has frescos depicting this island showing a citadel on a central island with canals. The island at the center, and its city was destroyed in the eruption, along with the City, thus appearing to be swallowed by the sea. Only akrotiri survives. No evidence of human occupation exists at the eye ofSolon, or anywhere nearby. The minoans actually existed, but disappeared in part due to this cataclysmic eruption in the Mediterranean
@@Drew_McTygue doesn't Plato's account say about an island or group of islands one gets to sailing West through the Pillars of Heracles which is the Gibraltar Strait?
@@Drew_McTygue
"Solon got the account from Egypt"
This assumes the account within the dialogue is a factual account and not a framework of a story designed to convery a philsophical message to Athenians - something Plato is commonly known to have done before Critias and Timaeus.
"The minoans actually existed, but disappeared in part due to this cataclysmic eruption in the Mediterranean"
No.
The Minoans did indeed exist - but they did not simply disappear after the Theran eruption.
Whole communities on Crete were insulated from the post eruption tsunami on the south coast due to higher elevation and not facing towards Thera (Santorini's older Hellenic Greek name).
After the eruption the island was likely easily conquered by Mycenae due to the impact to their various crops and trade weakenign all aspects of the civilisation.
The remnants of the Minoan civilisation were effectively ruled over by Mycenae during that period.
In all likelihood the Minoans integrated and assimilated into Mycenae and later Hellenic Greek society, just as the formerly warring Etruscans did into the Roman republic and empire.
Stupid interpretation! Just learn to read!
Sweet
I feel attak.
Good job Sargon
Carl being awesome boii once more w00t
They just found a complete scroll in Egypt. It's the book of the dead. Could be interesting.
The dyhastic Egyptian funerary rites evolved over time.
The "book of the dead", or more accurately the "book of going forth by day" is the later, more stable version of them known most to the layman.
The earliest version of their funerary rites we know of are the 'Pyramid Texts' first seen in the burial chamber of the Pyramid of Unas (last pharaoh of the 5th dynasty) - footage of it can be found in various videos on UA-cam.
I'm Atlantean ❤
The Minoans, that's all I can think about, long lasting, colourful and won wars against the mycenaeans
I don't know about wars.
The simple fact is that the Minoans were the dominant force of the Aegean in their time - superior on the water in every way.
After the Theran eruption their entire society was badly impacted to the point that the Mycenaeans didn't need superior skills to conquer Crete.
When the dust settled Mycenaean sailors in the Aegean would have found starving or broken Minoan communities disconnected, and very much in culture shock, probably believing that their gods had abandoned, or worse turned against them.
Is this thé eye of sahara an ancien Hydron colider that was accidently exploded abd distroyed atlantis ?
Nonsense! Learn to read! The location is unquestionably fixed by Platon.
Omg it's alive
Its the Richat structure... The Eye of the Sahara.
Guys it’s not real it never was! It’s just an analogy for an ideally structured city state! Guys? Stop having fun!
It's the Eye of Sahara
It is at the top of North Pole and we'll never see it because the entire world's navy guards it
Virgin History Fan vs. Chad Mythology Enjoyer
@@cftyftyufyfuyfty I've known a number of people who've flown over the north pole. No stories of anything interesting unfortunately :(
Well, other than all the petrified forests up there.
wrong pole. Operation Highjump - 4,700 men, 70 ships (including 1 aircraft carrier with 33 aircraft). Totally normal, nothing to see here, carry on citizen. No pyramids here, look away.
long ago in a land far away there existed a great civilisation not unlike Rome. yet a great cataclysm happened and all its citizens died. the only people left to carry it's tradition and legacy, were outsiders unaffected.
The "outsiders" were not unaffected! According to the texts Egypt was occupied by Atlantis in the course of the war which occured about 9500 BC and was freed when Ur-Athens had defeated Atlantis. But then about 8500 BC according to the text Egypt had to be founded again. That means that Egypt was also affected by the flood which sank Atlantis and that this flood happened between 9500 and 8500 BC which means: about 9000 BC. And this date is confirmed by the fragments of Berossos (33.500 BC date of the first flood) and the Sumerian Kinglist (24.510 years, 3 months and 1/2 day duration of the dynasties after that flood!).
Wait a NEW upload?!
When are you going to talk to Randall Carlson?
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Scam artist
It's a warning ⚠️
There have been many Atlantis
17:39
Tfw youre listening to a thousands of years old story and "the rest has been lost."
FUCK!
Is this Carl Benjamin?
Yes
@@chrisnewbury3793
Thank you for a late answer. It made me listen to it again.
I recognise that voice
Sargon ;)
Afrocentrists are going to claim they were Atlanteans n shiet
Minoan civilization. Solved!😊
Stupidity
Eh why does it look like the Atlantis in Stargate?
Because Plato is a plagiarist
@@joebloggs479 I always knew plato was a man of culture and have fine taste for scifi shows.
So look for mud
Look for the shallow in front of the strait of Gibraltar!
I just wanna go to the eye and dig up this long lost city.... If not for the sand people
You are just stupid!
Arrgghhh! Thought this would be good but fucking Sargon to narrates?? Why? I’ve managed like 3 years without hearing his voice!
Yeah and I've only been able to go 3 days without reading a comment written by a Karen.
@@fedyno4reviews ah the le midwit sargonite fan response. Tell me were you a liberalist before it was cool?
Fortuitously you haven’t bred so your children won’t inherit your impressive collection of sexually transmitted diseases.
I am currently reading Locke
Skeptical Waves honestly has nothing on a human voice.
Algorithm.
Atlantis Nusantara Indonesia mercusuar dunia
NO!
Took a break from right wing bullshit to give us something good for once.
Oh look a fascist pretending to be for liberty.
Nothing funnier than the more Left someone is, the more fascist they are, but hide behind virtue signaling and soft bigotry of low expectations.
@Ancient Recitations great u postin again, ever considered posting bits of 'Elias Ashmole's Theatrum Chemicum Britannicum' theres a clear dearth here of swanky 1600s english with period-appropriate pirate/alchemist accent:D or 'The Lay of the Cid' or 'A Gest of Robyn Hode'?
or rather more closely with the Atlantis topic checkout
wiki/Valknut
wiki/Tripura_(mythology)# The_construction_of_the_three_cities