The Seductive Nightmare of Bloodborne's Chalice Dungeons

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  • @LashknifeTalon
    @LashknifeTalon 5 років тому +2471

    Just 8 days ago, all 2300 possible Root Chalice Dungeons were explored by the Tomb Prospectors subreddit. That should be the end of it; they found EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE permutation of the Chalice dungeons based on the game's code.
    As of when I write this comment, there are still posts on that subreddit newer than that. They are still going.

    • @matthewrobinson6091
      @matthewrobinson6091 4 роки тому +207

      Even when we have discovered all there is to be discovered the abyss calls out endlessly and we will find more regardless of whether or not there is any more.
      I seriously can't wait for bloodborne 2.

    • @themostdiabolicalhater5986
      @themostdiabolicalhater5986 4 роки тому +131

      Matthew Robinson Not only can you wait, but you’re going to wait. Forever. Because there won’t be a Bloodborne 2

    • @HydrengeaEdelweiss
      @HydrengeaEdelweiss 4 роки тому +106

      @@matthewrobinson6091 There is no path... Beyond the scope of light, beyond the reach of Dark... what could possibly await us? And yet, we seek it, insatiably... Such is our fate.

    • @agiar2000
      @agiar2000 4 роки тому +36

      *D E E P E R*

    • @oceladeb
      @oceladeb 4 роки тому +23

      This is absolutely terrifying.

  • @CelestialDraconis
    @CelestialDraconis 5 років тому +1963

    In the beginning, I used to HATE and loathe the chalice dungeons. After so many dreadful nights of mental torture, just to kill the Queen for the last trophy, I was burnt out. Months later, I had this urge to go back again. Like a cursed hunter who couldn't get enough of the bloodshed and killing. And I sort of became more and more fascinated and downright addicted to the chalice dungeons. As if discovering I was a masochist all this time.
    I've always used to say that the chalice dungeons were a great idea on paper with horrible execution, due to how repetitive they were. But I failed to realize their genius. They are the game's physical embodiment of insanity. Of humanity's lust for forbidden knowledge, that as a result, led to their insanity. Some things aren't meant to be known. You cast your eyes upon Cthulhu, and your brain will just shut down. And the dungeons themselves, they're the representation of the human mind, running helplessly in circles in search of answers, only to lose their minds in the process. It's Hell, forever trapped in this twisted limbo. Perhaps ignorance _is_ bliss.
    Humanity's fear of the unknown, and letting that fear control us, will be our greatest downfall. We toy with things we don't understand (like the church using the gods' blood for themselves, dooming all of Yharnam's populace), searching for things we're not supposed to see, and think we've become so enlightened, like Micolash did. But we're all still just animals.
    I apologize for being so dramatic, but it's nice to see someone who finally appreciates or at the very least have an interesting take on the chalice dungeons, and to mention Junji Ito as well! Been really into his stories lately, and what's great about his stories is how grounded to reality they are, even if he talks about fantasy and supernatural entities, there's always that subtle touch of reality behind his story's messages.

    • @LucasBarbosa-qh5ke
      @LucasBarbosa-qh5ke 5 років тому +64

      "the game's physical embodiment of insanity" holy fuck...
      And I actually enjoyed the chalice dungeons. I wonder what that says about me..

    • @joeysands8893
      @joeysands8893 5 років тому +9

      Plus Junji Ito has some pretty sharp satire and social commentary. He’s a master of horror, as well as subliminal messaging.

    • @hammer768
      @hammer768 5 років тому +7

      All right Socrates chill out

    • @dov8410
      @dov8410 5 років тому

      Alright m8 chill

    • @CelestialDraconis
      @CelestialDraconis 5 років тому +16

      @@hammer768 That's *Aristotle* to you, thank you *_very_* much.

  • @shamp0ing339
    @shamp0ing339 5 років тому +936

    I found this channel through the Shadow of the Colossus video but after watching a few more I can safely say you are one of the best channels I've found in a while. The way you write these essays is absolutely captivating

    • @tgfnc
      @tgfnc 5 років тому +11

      How do you give a comment 5000 more likes? This is literally word for word my exact same experience

    • @BrunoB78
      @BrunoB78 5 років тому

      exactly the same here

    • @epochii2756
      @epochii2756 5 років тому +2

      I did too!! I watched the video near when it came out, and not recognizing the channel, and then became obsessed with the jokes, the poetic explanations, the cosmic horror. I love this channel, man-

    • @djestoussaint8968
      @djestoussaint8968 5 років тому

      100% agree, exact same thing, ive been binchwatching all of his videos

    • @DodderingOldMan
      @DodderingOldMan 4 роки тому +3

      Ha, yeah, same. Glad that Shadow video was a break out success, there are so many great game commentators on UA-cam, but this guy is definitely amongst the very best.

  • @shaneshane8482
    @shaneshane8482 5 років тому +727

    Another cruel thing: the rune Guidance (tier 3) has NEVER been found. A manual said it rests in depth 5 chalice dungeons. I am not even going to talk about the time I spent looking for an item that (debatably) doesn’t even exist. Odd enough, the name of the rune... guidance. We need guidance to find guidance. We can never have that rune.

    • @Estra_Estra
      @Estra_Estra 4 роки тому +56

      It could actually be a glitch with the DLC, since Guidance is the only rune you can get infinitely, tier 1 that is, next to a crow or from a crow in the Research Hall (it's been a while since I've played, ain't sure), you can get it after every new game cycle, real weird.

    • @shizotypical
      @shizotypical 4 роки тому +60

      It's confirmed that the tube doesn't exist, it's nowhere in the game files. It's so strange that we have a ton of hidden/cut content and yet there's this one thing that just doesn't exist even though it should

    • @Estra_Estra
      @Estra_Estra 4 роки тому +14

      @@shizotypical Tube? Caryll Tubes?

    • @shaneshane8482
      @shaneshane8482 4 роки тому +80

      Ксения Старцева - Actually, that’s incorrect. The rune is in the game files, but it doesn’t synchronize with loot chests in the dungeons. The rare drop table cannot make the correct calculations to ever make it appear. Through a certain mod, however, you can auto-place the rune in your inventory. And it’s legit; Guidance (fully colored in image) +30 discovery

    • @barbarianzg8826
      @barbarianzg8826 3 роки тому +11

      Chalices are procedurally generated so it's recomended to create every time a new one..somewhere in cursed chalices..search every cribit..lol
      There's a 3 outcomes...
      1. That specific chalice containing gui+3 rune has been created and not fully explored and deleted from server. (don't believe in this:)
      2. Someone did found it and never knew that is special.
      3. That chalice is still not procedurally generated.
      Happy search!

  • @syntholm2433
    @syntholm2433 4 роки тому +316

    I want to listen to that DEEPER sound effect until I delve into the spiraling madness in my mind dungeon that I created to escape my problems

    • @Somethingbloody
      @Somethingbloody 4 роки тому +33

      Definitely watch Annihilation if you haven't.

    • @Act5scene1
      @Act5scene1 4 роки тому +18

      you might enjoy The Mark - Interlude by Moderat. it's the track that sound is from.

    • @afrogod7556
      @afrogod7556 4 роки тому +4

      And a Majora's Mask pfp? Sick! Have you played Shadow of the Colossus? Another favorite of mine and Jacob Geller also has a video on it

    • @coal2710
      @coal2710 3 роки тому +5

      It's very relieving to explore the labyrinths with tomb prospectors and madmen while listening to nothing but ambient noise. Trying to locate the sobs, laughter and pitter-patter of spiders and rats turn the player into a cautious and skilful hunter.

    • @giddycadet
      @giddycadet 2 роки тому +1

      You'll like Hydroplane by KOAN Sound then. It uses a very similar synth to do the same sort of warbling bass sound.

  • @Sha0wn1
    @Sha0wn1 4 роки тому +229

    This video feels like I'm listening to some obsessed dude's last audiolog before he finally went too deep. Very fitting and really well done.

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 2 роки тому +6

      It's that exact vibe that keeps me periodically coming back to this one.

  • @TouruZen
    @TouruZen 5 років тому +517

    I like the comparison to Amigara faults. But I feel Yharnam as a whole and the Chalice dungeons shares more in common with Uzumaki by the same creator. A yawning abyss spiraling ever downward. A compulsion to madness and an inability to escape. And all consuming insanity eminating from deep bellow that we will never understand fully. A force beyond mortal comprehension.
    Yharnam is just another step. Another floor on top of the chalice dungeons. To be forgotten to be built over. We already seen signs of this as well with Old Yharnam how it stretches down into the lower reaches of the city and yet it keeps going. Leading ever deeper. Another city will takes its place to be built over it. Another host to the blood sickness wrought by the force lurking deeper and deeper.

    • @blueWolfYuno
      @blueWolfYuno 5 років тому +1

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    • @Shnarfbird
      @Shnarfbird 3 роки тому +4

      Dragonfly pond dries up... For now.

    • @ScrawnyTreeDemon
      @ScrawnyTreeDemon 2 роки тому +3

      A chilling comparison. And an apt one.

    • @MadamFoogie
      @MadamFoogie 2 роки тому +9

      I agree. The way the population of Kurouzu-Cho devolved into monsters through obsession or ill intent is very reminiscent of _Bloodborne._ I'm especially reminded of the mosquito chapters, with pregnant murderous blood-swollen women slavering for blood, resulting in supernaturally intelligent children. Then, the whole thing with cannibalizing mushroom placenta, and returning to the womb. Junji Ito was a clear influence, and I think his entire body of work fits nicely into the mythos.
      Heheh, get it? Fits nicely, because _The Enigma of Amigara Fault._ XD

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 2 роки тому +6

      @@MadamFoogie lmao
      Also: Junji Ito's _The Thing That Drifted Ashore,_ a short story about an incredibly gross and unnerving fish, seems to have parallels to the bit of Bloodborne lore pertaining to the death of Kos. You see, the thing that's so weird about the titular "thing that drifted ashore" is that its body is full of live humans, which it has scooped up and preserved in an unconscious state whenever anyone in the area was lost at sea. It's by no means an exact match for what Kos had going on, but worth a mention anyway.

  • @WWProductions94
    @WWProductions94 5 років тому +959

    Of course it’s the Annihilation soundtrack. Of course.

    • @cassius092
      @cassius092 5 років тому +41

      I heard this in another movie called Under The Skin, didn't know it was used elsewhere.

    • @sayst
      @sayst 5 років тому +59

      @@cassius092 There isn't any overlap in the tracks Annihilation OST and Under the Skin OST, except they are both used in this video. 8:23 is the "Annihilation" track, here used for title transitions.

    • @balakay493
      @balakay493 5 років тому +10

      I knew I would like the video as soon as I heard Moderat's The Mark (Interlude)

    • @Ciretako
      @Ciretako 5 років тому +26

      You know what they call Annihilation in Paris?
      Roadside Picnic with cheese.

    • @whym6438
      @whym6438 5 років тому +14

      Annihilation the book was very Lovecraftian, so it makes total sense.

  • @trashgremlin9055
    @trashgremlin9055 5 років тому +1363

    Theory: The world of Bloodborne is built so impractically vertical because after man discovered what was in the chalice dungeons they wanted to get as far away as possible. After building a sort of containment system they realized that there was no end, thus the only option was up. But what EXACTLY did they find?

    • @fizzie6902
      @fizzie6902 4 роки тому +158

      I always thought that the discovery of the old blood made the city grow way too fast for it's own good thus the vertically. Or maybe it had something to do with the dream realities during the night of the hunt or whatever.

    • @ghostface6387
      @ghostface6387 4 роки тому +86

      Another fucking poison swamp

    • @ThrottleKitty
      @ThrottleKitty 4 роки тому +92

      Or, what if everything is actually part of the chalice dungeons? The world of Bloodborne is all dreams stacked on top of one another, maybe the top layers of the dream just feel more vivid and alive, and the bottom layers are more dead and bare?

    • @scott4398
      @scott4398 4 роки тому +76

      Definitely not. Exploring the tombs was Byrgenwerth's domain, so the only people who know about them now are high-ranking Church members (Choir, Executioners, Mensis). And when those who would go on to form the Choir discovered an eldritch butterfly squid god in the tombs what did they do? Give it a place to live and start using its blood to seize power and experiment on the public.
      If anything their willingness to build on top of the tombs instead of moving far away from them is evidence of the hubris which ultimately ruined their society.

    • @MercurialRaven
      @MercurialRaven 4 роки тому +18

      @@ghostface6387 you probably aren't far off, considering the cut content about the "lake of mud" where you would have fought the moon presence in the chalice, or some iteration that became the moon presence.

  • @cavfre148
    @cavfre148 5 років тому +211

    It still haunts me that I’ve never “completed” the chalice dungeons

    • @martinsegur7173
      @martinsegur7173 5 років тому +45

      And you never will, no matter how deep you go.

    • @HekateMGO
      @HekateMGO 5 років тому +25

      Martín Segur they’re not completely random, there’s only about 180-200 different variations on Chalice Dungeons. So you can definitely “complete” them. I’d hazard to say I have beaten every depth 5 variation, I farmed over 100 blood rocks from dungeons on my quest to upgrade every weapon & weapon variant to +10.

    • @martinsegur7173
      @martinsegur7173 5 років тому +15

      @@HekateMGO People said the same about Isz dungeons a year ago.

    • @thesatelliteslickers907
      @thesatelliteslickers907 4 роки тому +37

      @@HekateMGO there are about 2 thousand forms of chalice dungeon
      And it turns out that they aren't actually rng. It was discovered after the tomb prospecters mapped every possible permutation and found that they were all purposefully put together before hand. You can actually find the various chalice dungeons in the game data. Its not generated on the fly its pulled from the actual game files

  • @JoyAndAgony
    @JoyAndAgony 5 років тому +845

    rip to everyone who physically squirmed as soon as he mentioned the enigma of the amigara fault like me

    • @stoulmar2550
      @stoulmar2550 5 років тому +5

      Sounds hella interesting tbh

    • @PhantasmX
      @PhantasmX 5 років тому +56

      DDRRR DDRRRR DRRRRRR

    • @pedroscoponi4905
      @pedroscoponi4905 5 років тому +17

      What happens to the people who go inside their holes? It's very unlikely that I'll read it, please spoil away

    • @JoyAndAgony
      @JoyAndAgony 5 років тому +94

      ​@@pedroscoponi4905 READ MORE FOR SPOILERS
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      The people who have a hole for them are reincarnations of their past cavemen-selves executed for crimes. They were executed by going into a hole that makes them continuously slide forward as the hole (painfully) distorts their bodies into misshapen noodles that come out the other side of the fault.
      [it basically combines claustrophobia, dysmorphophobia, and general body horror. fears that all humans have to a degree]

    • @asmodeus235
      @asmodeus235 5 років тому +1

      Yes me too please

  • @TM-vb5h
    @TM-vb5h 4 роки тому +63

    " people start to lose their minds, while beast started to gain one" that line gets me every time I hear it

  • @bleek1566
    @bleek1566 5 років тому +44

    this video is one of my greatest inspiration sources for my eldritch DnD campaigns and stories of the unknown.
    the feeling to go ever deeper or simply obeying the primal feeling of curiosity until it becomes your demise.
    i love it

    • @JacobGeller
      @JacobGeller  5 років тому +16

      Yo that's so cool! Good luck on your campaign!

  • @discountphantomthief
    @discountphantomthief 5 років тому +236

    I suddenly have this urge not only to play Shadow of the Colossus again, but to go somewhere deeper. It seems you have a talent for memetic agents.

    • @callusklaus2413
      @callusklaus2413 5 років тому +10

      Hello, my name is John from the SCP foundation, please hold still while I administer this Amnestic.
      Okay, now that that is taken care of, let's start containing this Scip.

  • @homunculi0408
    @homunculi0408 4 роки тому +50

    People: They build this city in such an inhabitable, insane way! It must be due to the influence of the eldritch beings, the dreams!
    Builders: Yo dawg, let's see who can build shit the highest!

  • @quills4922
    @quills4922 5 років тому +173

    The more I learned about chalices the more I appreciated them. Their winding, endless, nonsensical nature brought about through rng is quite handily explained through the sheer insanity of their canonical builders. They lull you into that madness through those samey, endless properties that people hate them for. They addict players, and pull them in.
    Chalice Dungeons are terrible. You do have to be crazy to like them. You do have to be crazy to keep pushing into those nearly infinite mazes expecting... something.
    But that's all part of being a Hunter, isn't it?

    • @jimijenkins2548
      @jimijenkins2548 Рік тому +1

      30,000 echoes per kill is hard to argue with.

  • @rafenelson7230
    @rafenelson7230 4 роки тому +74

    Talking about lovecraft and having music from Annihilation fits perfectly, that music never fails to give me shivers and portrays the strangeness and frankly terrifying nature of the dungeons so well. What a damn good video man

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 5 років тому +125

    That bit about the architecture in Bloodborne trending toward the crowded and labyrinthine is fascinating. Something in the Eldritch Truth they've learned - even if only on a subconscious level - guides the hands of their architects, sculptors, and city planners towards creating these dense, vertical, recursive nightmare mazes.
    It's almost the reverse of the Psychitecture as described in Dean Motter's _Mister X_ comics. Instead of the architecture being designed to influence psychology, the psychology of the citizens of Yharnam - both ancient and modern - influences their architecture.

  • @rohiogerv22
    @rohiogerv22 4 роки тому +110

    What I think is really interesting about the chalice dungeons is that I’m impulsively compelled to look for meaning in them.
    Across the standard trajectory, this makes sense. Maybe finding an Amygdala at the root of every defilement has meaning. Maybe the Old Lords’ affinity for fire means something. But I get the same compulsion in the root chalices. “I’m in Pthumeru. Why are there a bunch of celestial mobs staring at the same spot on the ground?” “Why are these particular glyphs on this particular wall?” “Whom is this statue representing?”
    I find myself searching for profane knowledge the same way the Byrgenwerth scholars had. And if I found it, would it even make sense to me?

  • @Saramusvasque2838
    @Saramusvasque2838 6 років тому +404

    I've heard nothing good about the Chalice Dungeons until this, and it convinces me to go try them out.

    • @sablemae8853
      @sablemae8853 5 років тому +22

      The deeper u go the better it gets.

    • @gv2212
      @gv2212 5 років тому +30

      @@sablemae8853 thats what she said

    • @sablemae8853
      @sablemae8853 5 років тому +8

      @@gv2212 got'em

    • @josephagnetti8921
      @josephagnetti8921 5 років тому +7

      They're pretty basic procedurally generated dungeons, which are fun the first time, but get pretty monotonous in a second play through.

    • @GirlPlus
      @GirlPlus 5 років тому +4

      Yeah, the shallow levels are nothing inspiring, but the later levels are fucking great.

  • @jamesprenatt2464
    @jamesprenatt2464 5 років тому +25

    Every night my wife asks me to play Bloodborne. Dungeons! she says when all I want to do is move the story forward. More gems! she says when I'm not powerful enough. She's conquered every single one and yet, they still produce obsession. If not her, someone else must do it. Glad someone else understands the allure of Pthumeru.

  • @Pollokyn
    @Pollokyn 5 років тому +65

    Ive been playing Bloodborne for years... I just cant stop.

    • @coal2710
      @coal2710 4 місяці тому

      Could you?

  • @AlexofZippo
    @AlexofZippo 2 роки тому +31

    I got to the queen. I traveled to the deepest depths. I cleared floor after floor, eventually reaching a proficiency where I could clear it without difficulty (with some few, notable exceptions...), but it reached this point were I wasn't playing Bloodborne anymore. Bloodborne was a game about memorization of paths, of enemy movements, of vicious combat. This was just... a path. Onward, downward, another room cleared, another boss defeated, pull the level, take the elevator. From castles to sand to blue fluorescent parodies of what I had long ago defeated, the rooms blurred together. I used a torch to test for hidden doors cause my weapon would lose too much sharpness if I used it. And those moments where i'd surface to spend Echos on potions or levels became like waking from a fever dream into something more approaching sanity.

  • @corwin32
    @corwin32 4 роки тому +15

    What's funny to me is that I never understood From's appeal until BB. For the first time I _wanted_ to know. I _had_ to know. No risk was too great, no death was one too many. I played it twice, and then dove back into the rest of the Souls universe with eyes open.

  • @VII0777
    @VII0777 5 років тому +34

    LOVE that you opened with The Alien. A great movie and a great moment that captures everything Bloodborne is about.

  • @endel12
    @endel12 5 років тому +67

    I would just like to comment how masterfully written this was. Cadence and alliteration and sequence... all fantastic. Well done sir!

  • @owlgoddess8534
    @owlgoddess8534 4 роки тому +11

    ironically, this video itself is like an obsession for me. its less than half the length of your normal videos, and i wouldn't call it your best work (that award would go to fear of depths) and yet i've watched it more than any other. something about this video and the concepts you talk about in it are EXTREMELY compelling to me in a way that i can't fully understand. i really want to make something someday with a similar concept.

    • @catharticgemini
      @catharticgemini 2 роки тому +4

      Fear of Depths being your favorite is so perfectly fitting, because of this, it's funny

    • @owlgoddess8534
      @owlgoddess8534 2 роки тому +3

      @@catharticgemini the void calls

  • @Honkadelic64
    @Honkadelic64 5 років тому +40

    this is like the exact opposite take that hbomberguy had, cool!

  • @diogoneto7190
    @diogoneto7190 2 роки тому +4

    Still one of my favorite videos ever, came here to revisit this gem, still as beautiful as the first time
    Thanks for all of your work
    Time to rewatch the depths video 😊

  • @Spookybluelights
    @Spookybluelights 5 років тому +10

    Man, your delivery in this one is so good, I feel your desperation and how much the compulsion kind of terrifies. Bloodborne is one of my favorite games ever and you completely capture one of the reasons why.

  • @AndrewEvenstar
    @AndrewEvenstar 10 місяців тому +2

    after beating this game 4 years ago, putting in 300 hours unto it, then beating elden ring, dark souls 1 and 3, I returned to bloodborne and started my first chalice dungeon tonight. this video and these dungeons are so damn haunting and cool! this video is one of the best I've seen about any game! wow. my story is very similar to yours with bloodborne ! I just started it first and also did submitted at the end!

  • @Ayahuasca98
    @Ayahuasca98 3 роки тому +5

    I love the chalice dungeons so much because it’s like, they add on another adventure to this fantastic game.
    I went through my first plyathrough without paying them much mind but now I have a blast with them.

  • @adriansandoval3217
    @adriansandoval3217 5 років тому +50

    Amazing! I understand the criticism of the Chalice Dungeon design but finally someone shares his "madness" that deeper something may lurk, some item not discovered or some enemy not seen

  • @MarsMann6754
    @MarsMann6754 5 років тому +14

    the chalice dungeons are comparable to the abyss. They keep going down, and there is no end to them. They are the root cause to all the problems we know, but they also didn't actively cause it. It's a randomly generated series of tight corridors, while the overworld is the opposite. It's the opposite of the thing we know, because we aren't suppose to know.

  • @cassius092
    @cassius092 5 років тому +58

    The song choice, Under The Skin is a great film!

    • @2007bmpgti
      @2007bmpgti 5 років тому +5

      That movie is very underrated. It's is so stark, much more stark than I imagined "an alien movie starring ScarJo" would be. The beach scene is brutal but without menace and very effective. It really fucked me up for awhile.

    • @theblackswordsman9951
      @theblackswordsman9951 4 роки тому +3

      Also Annihilation

    • @maxximmc
      @maxximmc 2 роки тому

      I knew I recognized that music somewhere!

  • @VoltasP
    @VoltasP 2 місяці тому +1

    Have you seen Charred Thermos' Agony of Effort theory? Suddenly Bloodborne makes sense. It's about the invention of Surgery in 18th and 19th century Edinburgh, with a bit of Lovecraft sprinkled on top to provide the otherworldly justification for bossfights. It takes a while to get through but holy shit by the end I was getting chills as even the silly cage hats had a clever explanation.

  • @Hawlk12
    @Hawlk12 11 місяців тому +2

    The game Fear and Hunger has done this to me. It was so brutal that when I looked up tips I felt like I was ruining my experience and that I was supposed to fail and give up instead and there's harder challenges I can't even fathom in that game and even though I beaten it once I feel like I can't escape it unless I truly suffer the trial and error that game demands

    • @HollowPhntm
      @HollowPhntm 5 місяців тому

      Weirdly enough, the Bloodborne chalice dungeons and the F&H dungeon have this strange eldritch/omnipotent presence to them and that both fascinates me and horrifies me to my core.

  • @ashenhunter1
    @ashenhunter1 Рік тому +5

    The bloodborne community is so damn cool and the chalice dungeons are so underrated

  • @royalityxkx
    @royalityxkx 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent use of the sound track from "Under the Skin" !!! My commendations to you good sir.

  • @flame1154
    @flame1154 4 роки тому +4

    The first time you go back to he Cathedral Ward sanctuary after Rom was the most meaningful moment to me. The character there you've "saved" and who have offerend you advice, guidance and normalcy all lose their minds, and as a result, you no longer have a reliable measure of your own sanity. If you continue forward now, it's not because you're being willed forward by others, it's because you either want answers, or don't know what else to do

  • @gil4335
    @gil4335 Рік тому +1

    this aluring horror, the madness created by the fact that those dungeons exist, they're there, for you to go in. even if you know nothing's at the end, you cant help yourself. just like that junji ito manga. like the game Fear and Hunger, even when you complete your "objective", which is no easy task to do on your own with no guides, it keeps going, the dungeon of fear and hunger keeps descending. youve done your deed and yet you cant help but to keep going down, and it keeps going down for so long, for so many rooms and unimaginable creatures. also just like going cave exploring, like you mentioned in your "Fear of depth" video. this type of horror fascinates me

  • @123NERDZ
    @123NERDZ Рік тому +1

    An absolutely fantastic video .
    Such incredible and intellectual content is worthy of more recognition

  • @derekcampbell4209
    @derekcampbell4209 5 років тому +7

    At first I didn’t like the dungeons. But once I understood them, I really started to enjoy them. They’re super cool and fun. Almost feels like a different game sometimes than the main game.

  • @Darisprites
    @Darisprites 4 роки тому +24

    The Chalice Dungeons remind me a lot more of a Made in Abyss, personally. And hey, both it and Lovecraft have authors who are pretty shit people but the concepts presented therein are interesting, and almost mind-consuming.

  • @JohnDWJ
    @JohnDWJ 5 років тому +1

    What an excellent analysis/ blurring of the lines of game experience reaching towards Lovecraft level obsession.
    Well presented well executed. Striking sir, striking.

  • @mechatyrants6218
    @mechatyrants6218 5 років тому +23

    Every possible chalice dungeon has officially been explored as of recently

    • @remmy3
      @remmy3 4 роки тому +1

      Did we find patches the spider?

    • @UriTrash
      @UriTrash 4 роки тому +4

      @@remmy3 yes, if you dont kill him in the main game he will appear in the loran chalices

  • @chaosbean6320
    @chaosbean6320 3 роки тому +2

    Well, this is it. The most terrifying essay. I got chills listening to it, really good job on the sound design. Tying a specific sound to the word deeper worked really well

    • @yhavinmiles
      @yhavinmiles 3 роки тому

      no

    • @chaosbean6320
      @chaosbean6320 2 роки тому

      @@yhavinmiles lmao, this is the funniest think.
      Pal, you can't decide what's scary and what's not for me

  • @davijones2369
    @davijones2369 5 років тому +10

    You're very eloquent and put together wonderful content. Thank you so much.

  • @mikoajk4317
    @mikoajk4317 5 років тому +2

    Thanks UA-cam recommendations, you did great this time. This video is something else

  • @FrogsOfTheNewWorld
    @FrogsOfTheNewWorld 5 років тому +11

    one of these days we're gonna find Riko's mother down there

  • @Marcinex
    @Marcinex Рік тому +2

    Was also drawn to the dungeons. In my mind, it's my safe haven from those monsters up top, the insanity there and the Moon Presence as well as the Orphan... The dungeons are nasty, but it's the horrors you know...the monsters you anticipate. Like a mole, they give me odd comfort, the fact that no matter what cataclysm occurs aboveground I'm "safe" down here. While some dungeons are just grotesque, some are less so.

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Рік тому +1

      Oof, the traps and platforming puzzles are not my idea of safe but i appreciate your perspective

    • @Marcinex
      @Marcinex Рік тому +1

      It is somewhat abstract, right? My main reason for saying this is something that I also found in STALKER but especially so in Metro games. Beyond ground some monsters roam, but you can anticipate what monsters and from where they'll come, aboveground "everything" can attack you, even the air itself 😛

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Рік тому

      @@Marcinex Yeah I get what you mean, haven't played STALKER but I get the same feeling when aboveground in Metro.

  • @fivesilvercoins
    @fivesilvercoins 4 роки тому +2

    i appreciate how loopable this video is.

  • @kos2919
    @kos2919 5 років тому +9

    What if the dungeon is interconnected to unlimited universes. Everytime you step into a new room you shifted into a new dimension filled with horrors.

  • @LivingMidnight
    @LivingMidnight 5 років тому +78

    What I got from this video: Some people have way more time to play video games than I do.

    • @rosesweetcharlotte
      @rosesweetcharlotte 5 років тому +4

      It's just not a big priority anymore. I...I like sunlight. But winter is coming.

    • @michaelandrews117
      @michaelandrews117 4 роки тому +4

      @@rosesweetcharlotte eurgh, summer sucks here in the U.K.
      We don't have the infrastructure for it, especially since the underground trains (the things that I get on every day during June-August) frequently reach 40 degrees Celsius; my flat is sunrise facing so I'm woken up by the rising sun at 4am, Summer brings out my SADS massively, my suits are disgusting piles of sweat by the end of the day, existing in summer is just sweating in your own skin because 90% of English homes don't have built in air-conditioning... I could go on but you get the idea.
      Sun sucks. Stay in and play video games.

    • @a.d.d.j8673
      @a.d.d.j8673 4 роки тому +1

      Well we all have time now boys

    • @manscapedgrinch1427
      @manscapedgrinch1427 4 роки тому

      @@a.d.d.j8673 not those who work in essential services.

    • @a.d.d.j8673
      @a.d.d.j8673 4 роки тому +1

      @@manscapedgrinch1427 true much resepct to them, i wish i could go back to the job i love

  • @music79075
    @music79075 4 роки тому +2

    I love this video as well as the lore.
    That said i also cant help but think of Monty python
    "Our forefathers came to thisbland a built a great castle upon a swamp. Which then sank into the swamp. So we built another castle on it which then fell and sank into the swamp. But then we built a THIRD castle upon the second and THATS what you are gonna rule!"

  • @notyours5780
    @notyours5780 3 роки тому

    I watched this when it came out. Still one of my favorite videos of yours. Love you Jacob

  • @jbvikingbat5595
    @jbvikingbat5595 4 роки тому +1

    I don't mean to sound over-exaggerative but this is genuinely one of the best horror pieces I've ever seen. I know it wasn't necessarily intended as that per se, but the music coupled with the narration that just continues to delve further and further into this quiet but insistent fervor that is so fittingly reminiscent of a Lovecraft character's obsessive, spiraling rambling, which somehow simultaneously manages to continually unveil truth while also falling deeper into some contagious sort of madness. It's so genuinely gripping that I seriously get chills every time I watch the video.

  • @ethansalopek7610
    @ethansalopek7610 2 роки тому +1

    I've never been this incredibly unnerved by a video essay before. The "deeper" sound effect gives me bigger chills every time; it sounds like a being hidden deep underneath, the heart of a whale pulsating louder as you approach. Somehow the video essay about the extra content of Bloodborne is way scarier than the game itself. TLDR: Excellent use of sound.

  • @spockninjitsu9396
    @spockninjitsu9396 5 років тому +1

    This textual analysis is better than most literature term papers. I'm fucking hooked!

  • @TheGlowingManYT
    @TheGlowingManYT Рік тому

    The Under the Skin song works so damn well here. So unsettling and haunting. Recognized it as soon as I heard it. Great video!

  • @loroleibusser5993
    @loroleibusser5993 2 роки тому +3

    the jacob geller video catalogue keeps urging me to go deeper

  • @fireworksfordinner
    @fireworksfordinner 5 років тому +11

    The use of the under the skin soundtrack is pretty great

  • @SinOfAugust
    @SinOfAugust 4 роки тому +1

    Near one of the highest (accessible) points in Yarnham there is a note that states simply: “Sky and cosmos are one”. Architects of the city were reaching out to the sky, to the Great Ones. The sanctum of the Choir is also located around the Astral Clocktower, despite the fact that the source of Church’s Old Blood came Ebrietas, who dwelt below.

  • @dalethtichy
    @dalethtichy 5 років тому +19

    The ending music is not The Alien (Annihilation) - it's Moderat's "The Mark".

    • @JacobGeller
      @JacobGeller  5 років тому +7

      That's interesting! I took it right from the movie audio of that scene, but you're totally right. Didn't know it was an original piece before the movie existed.

    • @dalethtichy
      @dalethtichy 5 років тому +3

      @@JacobGeller I'm a fan of Moderat, so that scene from Annihilation impressed me even more. I like your video also and the use of Moderat's music.

    • @mist3rtank3r
      @mist3rtank3r 5 років тому +2

      @@dalethtichy Thanks, thought i was gonna be the first on that one. Both this video and Moderat rocks.

  • @nualahalpin6119
    @nualahalpin6119 3 роки тому +1

    this video made me check out The Enigma of Amigara Fault so.... thanks for those nightmares.

  • @Evaquiel
    @Evaquiel 5 років тому +6

    that Under the Skin music totally goes well with Bloodborne.

  • @Pharthrax
    @Pharthrax Рік тому

    That musical cue that plays whenever you don’t say DEEPER gives me goosebumps.
    I love Bloodborne, and I love this video.

  • @toprak3479
    @toprak3479 5 років тому +40

    When I read the title I thought "a video praising chalice dungeons? pfffff" but then I saw the Enigma of Amigara Fault and I had to click

  • @zmalone4237
    @zmalone4237 Рік тому +1

    Jacob, man you bat 1,000 with these videos.

  • @odone5765
    @odone5765 4 роки тому +1

    dude.. this hit me hard tho, great work and good wording!

  • @chipychipz
    @chipychipz 4 роки тому

    how are all his videos so elegant & inspire such a deep understanding of his feelings the shadows of this video drive me to want to go deeper....

  • @claytonseput5873
    @claytonseput5873 5 років тому +12

    This video gave me such a sense of dread. Excellent job. The selection of the Under The Skin and Annihilation soundtrack makes it even more dreadful.

  • @perfectlyhopeless
    @perfectlyhopeless 4 роки тому

    It is absolutely fascinating watching this vid after your Fear of Depths video

  • @dustmemory9891
    @dustmemory9891 5 років тому +28

    You consume the reagents in the chalice after performing the ritual and the visit the dungeons in a form of astral and/or time travel.

    • @darktemplar5
      @darktemplar5 5 років тому +11

      Holy shit, I never made the connection that you might drink from the chalices. Blowing my mind here!

  • @auramire6304
    @auramire6304 3 роки тому

    I keep coming back to this video. Every time I watch it I feel chills down my spine, all the hair stands up on my arms. Something about this concept terrifies me... but it also thrills me in a way I can't describe. So I come back and watch it again and again and again. It's beautiful in it's own way.

  • @TheSniperbiscuit
    @TheSniperbiscuit 4 роки тому

    This video is fucking awesome. I just got the platinum trophy for this game and you somehow made me love Bloodborne even more than before. That is saying a lot since this is my favorite game of all time. You just earned a subscriber dude. Also great use of the Under the Skin and Annihilation scores.

  • @NIRDIAN1
    @NIRDIAN1 3 роки тому

    I keep thinking about this video... Almost expecting there to be more every time I see it. Kinda weird how it has the effect it describes? Good stuff.
    ALSO THE WAY YOU USED THE NOISE ON THE "DEEPER" BIT GIVES ME CHILLS EVERY TIME!!!

  • @eternalsummer8409
    @eternalsummer8409 2 роки тому

    Things like the chalice dungeons, your last great secret video, and so on remind me of something, tales like the round table and holy grail stories kids loved growing up, Atlantis, Star Trek, ever since therve been people there’ve been stories of searching for more, stories that often explicitly state there’s nothing to find, yet people still search. It has been and will always be a part of human conscience to search for more, and I find that lovely

  • @dragoniraflameblade
    @dragoniraflameblade 5 років тому +3

    The DEEPER bit was stuck in my head all night and all morning after listening to this. Awesome video.

  • @Bojonatanjarpehag
    @Bojonatanjarpehag 11 місяців тому

    Very nice production quality!

  • @willfloydart
    @willfloydart 5 років тому

    As soon as I heard the music choice I had to finish the video. Good video 👍

  • @PitchIncorrection
    @PitchIncorrection 5 років тому +4

    And this is why Bloodborne is my favorite game of all time.

  • @matthewmartinez3907
    @matthewmartinez3907 4 роки тому +1

    I made up a fan theory once about the chalice dungeons and the theory of the souls games being in the same universe. That the dungeons keep going far deeper then the game suggests so far down it leads to place no one would’ve expected.

  • @JesusIsAMoose
    @JesusIsAMoose 4 роки тому

    I really love and appreciate the way you look at video games, and also the way you write your essays. It inspires me to look at the games I've played a dozen times with a set of fresh eyes, and that's a really good skill to have I think.

  • @SpydeTarrix
    @SpydeTarrix 4 роки тому

    Late to this... but this video haunts me. The bass heart beat of the dungeons calls to me. I assuage the urges by watching the video. But slowly I'm getting closer to diving the dungeons again. My ps4 is updated. Controllers charged. I'm heading back in. It can't be helped. The deep calls.
    Love your videos. I can't belive I only just recently found them. Thanks for putting words and media to my feelings.

  • @claviceps_giles5177
    @claviceps_giles5177 4 роки тому

    You get instant kudos for using Mica Levi's working from Under the Skin in your vid!

  • @nineteenpassengers
    @nineteenpassengers 5 років тому +2

    Beating Orphan of Kos on my first try by the skin of my teeth was by far among the coolest gaming experiences I’ve ever had and maybe ever will.

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 5 років тому +1

      I feel like you're missing out. Having died to him over 50 times, the release of finally beating him was like masturbation. Always coming so close to release only to be denied the pleasure and being forced to start all over so many times made the victory orgasmic.

  • @no1here27
    @no1here27 2 роки тому +1

    My god even after doing everything in elden ring i keep finding myself back at bloodborne and eventually this video as well.

  • @ghostpatrol8702
    @ghostpatrol8702 3 роки тому

    Binging your channel and just got to this one. Gotta point out- love the Allen Ginsberg quote in the description.

  • @stefanostsougkranis5851
    @stefanostsougkranis5851 4 роки тому +2

    What's even more interesting to me is that this game is actually quite... meta in a sense. By the end of your first playthrough you'll probably have many things left to check out in a second playthrough. Just think the possibility of not having guides or experts about this game... its hidden locations would take considerably more time to be discovered and a better understanding of the game in general would be more difficult and immersive by default. The game lures you in exactly for the reason to go deeper and deeper, blood drunken by your lust for more power so that you'll be able to gain more insight and eventually get mad from the insight you have gathered. I think that Chalice dungeons indeed have importance and contribute to this feeling of addiction besides the addicting gameplay loop. Brilliant game design.

  • @codytierson845
    @codytierson845 5 років тому

    UNDER THE SKIN and ANNIHILATION!!!! Nice music choice, great video!

  • @keith720
    @keith720 2 роки тому +1

    The sound used for "deeper" is so addictive for some reason

  • @leftovernoise
    @leftovernoise 3 роки тому +1

    The first time one of the labyrinth madmen with the sickles ran out of the mist towards me to a bloodcurdling scream, fuck, that still haunts me to this day

  • @bdoeden64
    @bdoeden64 4 роки тому

    This was excellent, HAUNTINGLY excellent. The way Blade Runner 2049's theme is hauntingly beautiful, or Book of Eli's Panoramic track is hauntingly beautiful. Well done Jacob.

  • @ginebraman
    @ginebraman 3 роки тому

    I played the chalices somewhat roleplaying, using the Tomb Prospector set in the firsts floors and changing them into Church’s as going deeper, looking at the walls, the monsters, the enviroment... I got why they were so obssessed with them because I became too, wanting to go deeper, wanting to know more. And when there is nothing left to know, you still need more, and so they began to experiment themselves, and I totally get why. Saying that’s the most lovecraftian feeling of the game, yeah, I absolutely agree, that kind of obssession comes from the insanity developed from knowledge, and that’s pure Lovecraft

  • @bw000m
    @bw000m 5 років тому +12

    videos that make me feel emotions

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 5 років тому +3

      yeah, I'm loving this guy's vids. Check out the ones on shadow of the colossus, too. I haven't even played that game, but these vids make me want to. A lot of mysteriousness.

    • @bw000m
      @bw000m 5 років тому

      digimondudeify look into the ocean lol. then look into space. its all there friend

  • @residentevilisreal
    @residentevilisreal 5 років тому +1

    i love this video so dearly

  • @nullanma5134
    @nullanma5134 3 роки тому

    That sound for the “deeper” transitions just chills and unsettles me to my core

  • @primusavenged
    @primusavenged 2 роки тому +1

    Y'know, when I watched Under The Skin I wasn't really expecting my brain to go "oh this music was in a jacob geller video"

  • @itcouldbelupus2842
    @itcouldbelupus2842 2 роки тому +1

    This is a tone poem about Bloodborne, and it f*cking slaps.
    If you read this Jacob, you should update the thumbnail to the style and quality of your more recent thumbnails, this isn't bad, but your thumbnails this past year have been great.
    More people should see this one.

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Рік тому

      Oi Jacob.
      Try my idea.
      Boost this wonderful video in the Algo!