Is Your Favorite Pastor, Author, or Social Media Influencer a Progressive Christian?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Have you ever been reading a book or watching a video that identifies itself as "Christian," but you get a gut check that sends red flags flying? Here are some things that progressive authors, speakers, bloggers, and pastors typically affirm and also some things they typically deny. This video will help you answer the question, is my favorite Christian influencer a progressive?
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Thank you for addressing this and making it clearer to the average person. I was in a small meeting of a ministry recently and the pastor had brought someone new onboard. I noticed that the pastor made a comment that "this is not about doctrine." I didn't understand at the time, but this new person who has many gifts and talents, I have realized is a progressive. Yes it is about the love of God, but how do we even go there if our doctrine is warped? Truth sets us free and we do not find truth in warped doctrine. Can you imagine being awash in this progressive doctrine and not being able to go to the Word because the Word does not count? Progressives I have come to know are pretty adamant that the Bible is not the Word and my experience is that the truth of the Bible just does not exist in their world. Body of Christ, be careful, this is huge. I feel like we are moving into something we have not really seen before. Be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
I’m in my late seventies now, and I can’t get over how much this world has changed then when I grew up. I’m 37 years sober now because god made himself real to me, there’s no more crucial moment in a persons life then when he or she is encountered by God, that moment sets in motion the rest of one’s life. ( It sure did mine ..) i’m really ready to leave earth 🌍 whenever God decides ...I’m ready✅
Praise God for your sobriety.
If you don't mind me asking, when did you encounter God? and what were you doing leading up to this encounter?
Same
Hallelujah💃💃
Wow. God bless you Sir.
A lot of these false doctrines seem to have been created by trying to make the gospel more appealing to the secular world. Just another reminder that we are not of the world and we shouldn’t think like the world...otherwise, we lose the saving message of the gospel.
I agree with you. It all started with seeker-friendly churches and morphed from there.
Did it start already with Jesus, who came with a message of hope, love and care for the poor people, that appealed them so much that they followed him, in a cold cruel world, where religious people focused on the appearance of how good and religious they were?
It starts with questioning and changing what God said.
The serpent said did God really say...
And some how they from No tree to tree OK 🤔
The gospel is in Isaiah 53 not in a person besides Christ.
Muslims also deny many of those things. That you just mentioned, Alisa. I thank God that He saved me out of that false religion.
How long now?
Thank you for your testimony. May God open doors for you to speak to other muslims about Yeshua.
That’s awesome! Bless ❤️
Godspeed
Wow that's amazing!!! Praise God! 💖
“For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do”
Ephesians 2:10 1 Peter 3:15
It's sad that we have to have videos like this, but this video is great information.
Excellent synopsis! Thank you for all your work!
@AlisaChilders thank you for covering this topic extensively! I really think the church is a mess right now but at the same time waking up! Praying for God's truth to be heard through all the deceptive schemes of our true enemy. God bless you and please keep up the good work! Hopefully each will do their own research as well and find Jesus and His Word haven't changed ❤
Remember to burn down the entire town that a witch resides in, burn all the plunder, kill the women and children, and then salt the earth so that it may never be used again!- Deuteronomy 13. Just... all of it.
@ahizu
He was destroying nephilim bloodline.
What is your point?
I just found your channel/podcast and have been watching so many. My husband and I were just discussing how a certain church in our area believes in gods word as a guidebook/inspiration instead of the divine and complete word of god. It’s heartbreaking to see a congregation spill theory as that. I teach the Bible and while I don’t believe we should take everything in the Bible literally, I believe it is the literal word of god. That gives us context and culture to work around while always understanding the divine natural of gods word to us. (Meaning we aren’t all called to sacrifice our sons as Abraham was Isaac but we can certainly know God put that in his word for us to learn and study from) As I study gods word more and more, I grow more conservative in my Christianity. It’s hard to see how you can grow more progressive but sadly it happens.
Thank you for this!!❤
At first I was a bit worried cause I'm still spiritually young & I was afraid I started off wrong... But thank God, every Christian person in my circle & my social media feed hv biblical doctrine! Thank u for reminding us the importance of talking about these things. Let's pray that these people will come to know God personally! 💖
So helpful! Thank you so much. Also...are you doing the curly girl method? Your natural curl is looking spot on🙌🏻
Probably just washed her hair!😁
I don't mean to be long winded but in the post below I want to say that I did not really get the whole progressive thing when I first started to see it. And this post is a result of the light coming on due to your videos. Thank you.
Thanks for this list. I have noticed over the years that other "religions" take Christianity and tweak it to be a little different (some are way different of course) but a lot are just a little different. Denying Jesus' divinity, Trinity and Jesus being the one way. It is shocking to see churches moving in this same direction. Satan is so good at what he does and so many people don't see it.
“An ancient travel journal” lol. I love that phrase. So true
Definitely! We're looking at the perspectives of fallible men of ancient times, trying to make sense of their world - who also happen to have God speaking to them and sharing His Word through them. Fallible man, Infallible God!
Best 9 minutes I've spent in a while. You nailed it on this one, Alisa!! Thx
Is your life really so bad?
PjotrII are you really such a troll?
@@doubtingthomas9117 If the best minutes of someone´s life is when X tells that Europe is part of Africa, and they are happy that they were told the truth... then, don´t I have the right to ask if life sucks?
When I was very young, between 3-7 my family read the Bible and talked to me about the Bible and stories from it. My first real and only church experience was at 7. My grandparents took me to Catholic church. During this service when the "father" began reading from the book of Revelation my eyes literally closed. The More I tried to force my eyes open to read revelation I got a worse and worse headache. After this I went home and prayed. God told me to read the entire book before I read Revelation. So I began.
Over the next 17 years I read and studied the Bible in its entirety, but eventually focused on the new testament, specifically Matthew Mark Luke and John.....during this time between 7 and 24 years old many times I tried to read revelation, even just a few sentences. And every time I tried to read it my eyes would physically close and I would get a headache.
However, I did read the first few verses of revelation MANY times over that period as I started the book of Revelation a thousand times, but I couldn't get past the first 4 or 5 verses when I tried.
Sometime in the summer of 2000, when I was 24, I began trying to read the book of revelation and this time God let me. No more headaches or eyes closing.
It was then very shortly into reading it something stuck out,
But I didn't know exactly what,
It was a feeling in my gut,
so I asked God what am I missing..
He said "Listen closer."
After reading the beginnning of revelation numerous times I finally realized I recognized a phrase,
Rev...1:3.
"for the time is near".
Until this point I even though I had read it numerous times before, I was so focused on reading more before my eyes would close and a headache would start I didn't hear it closely until this point.
I immediately began searching where else I heard that phrase. Soon I found it;
In Luke chapter 21, verses 7-8:
This is where Jesus Christ specifically tells us to not follow the many who come in his name claiming 'I am He' and "the time is near"-
Jesus says do not follow those who use that exact phrase.
I eventually googled the phrase and found that the author of revelation uses that phrase twice.
I asked God if what He was showing me is proof that he warned US about Revelation and that it is a false prophecy- He said "what does My Word The Bible say?"
Listen, the reason how I know this doesnt matter because it doesn't change what Jesus says;
Jesus says do not follow the many who come in His name claiming 'the time is near' - the author of Revelation then uses that EXACT phrase TWICE, once in the first chapter and again in the last chapter: effectively sealing the entire prophecy called Revelation with a phrase JESUS CHRIST tells us not to follow anyone who uses it.
Since 2000 I have been quietly talking to people and showing them this. Whomever will listen- which hasn't been many. In August of this past year(2020) I asked God what else am I supposed to do. He said make a video and tell everyone.
So, I did.
ua-cam.com/video/SN5GjLnW2SY/v-deo.html
If you have questions, ask away.
your brother,
Adam
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Nicely done. Thanks for addressing this
@Alisa Childers no
As a conservative EVANGELICAL Christian, I would say that the two items listed under the progressives do not add up. For example, Eastern Orthodox Church believes in Christos Victor and they see the death of Christ as an example and one that conquered death rather than sacrificial death. And they are literally 2,000 years of tradition. Secondly Mennonites and Amish and many Baptists do not believe in the sinful nature (This is what Calvinist and reformed Christians hold to) rather they believe that with adam whole of nature (Not human nature) fell and had to be redeemed. They do believe in the ORIGINAL sin meaning Adam and Eve but they do not believe that we are born sinners in other words we all will BECOME sinners and they all agree that this applies 100% to all humans beings. Therefore we all need saving faith in Jesus Christ and his redemptive work. I know that this may sound like semantics but it is not. People need to understand that there are some internal differences that we should be aware of but these views do not make these Christians to be progressive.
I have a pretty short list for youtube -- Dr. Craig Evans, Alisa Childers, William Lane Craig, etc. :) You do great work Alisa ;)
Love your Podcasts Alisa. What you just went through could also be retitled as: How to spot a modern-day false teacher. Going back to the Old Testament there always has been and always will be false teachers who want to satisfy or follow the trends of this passing society than the eternal truth of God. And the Bible is very clear that those who push false doctrine will have even greater judgment than those who are being misled by them.
Thanks Alisa. Really helpful !!!
The most common similarity you can find amongst offshoots of Christianity such as Islam (sort of an offshoot), the Christian cults (Mormonism, Jehovah Witness, Christian Science), and now Progressive Christianity is a de-emphasis of the significance of Jesus.
Concise summary. It would have been good to have Bible verses to back up the views against the progressive ideas. Are you able to update the video with Bible verses?
Good breakdown. What do these "lists" have in common? Not simply religious views, but WORLDVIEWS. Progressive liberalism is a worldview, just as classic conservatism. RULE OF THUMB: Your worldview is shaped by your spiritual beliefs. If you stay long enough in your "worldview" more so than the Lord Himself, you'll soon start RESHAPING your spiritual views to FIT YOUR social-political "worldview" (keyword: "world"... view). A person's politics always flows from this truth. You, me, all of us. Once the focus is off of Jesus, the world begins "renewing our minds" (according to its ways) vs. the Holy Spirit doing so (according to His ways).
Great video and also, your hair looks so good!
even though that was supposedly not exhaustive you could not say it is Christianity anymore.....not even star trek "its life Jim but not as we know it" would even apply........
7:30 shouldn't the bible be used to fight social injustice? One can still believe in Christ and be against social injustice..
Also, the bible has a consistent theme of oppressed vs oppressor so why would any Christian ignore this?
Yes God meets the oppressed. But the Bible also says the reason why there is oppressed vs oppressor is because of human beings fallen nature. Humanity fallen nature affected society. Many right wingers just focus on the gospel and reject the need for participating in social justice. Our Lord and Savior reached out to the poor, the marginalized, the outcast first. Yes fight against injustice. We must preach the gospel also. Many PC's will down play the gospel and only focus on social justice. They ignore that sin is the root cause of all social injustice.
@@Topg1 So both sides need to have balance. Love God first, then love your neighbor as yourself - and a love for your neighbor would not seek to oppress or hurt them.
@@denisemayosky1955 Amen
According to Alisa and Christians like her, this would be progressive Christianity and therefore not real Christianity. therefore if you care about social justice you're going to hell. Should be a pretty good flag that what she's preaching about is itself flawed.
One thing we learn from history is, we forget or ignore history. The Bible is God's inerrant history book and He tells us ...
... Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
Jer 6:16
Having itching ears, people will find for themselves teachers that cater to their needs, and not what is sound and true...
These are all red flags, where if you hear this stuff preached, I would run, not walk, towards the exits. Also, I don't have "favorite" authors, speakers, pastors. I read the Orthodox Study Bible and listen to EWTN radio for proper theological understanding of the faith and scriptures and plan to order some books with writings from the early Church fathers.
I think 500 years later, the shortcomings of the Protestant reformation are on full display with thousands upon thousands of different denominations (including non-denomination, which is a denomination unto itself) all with differing interpretations of both The Bible and their image of God with His righteousness replaced with their own version of it- hence "progressive Christianity".
The biggest culprit is the embrace demonic teachings dating all the way back to Marx, Engels, Hegel, Rousseau whose teachings made their way from Europe onto the shores of the US in the late 1890s and early 1900s and have infected our society. It took roughly one hundred years for the widespread damage to be done and the destruction to be widely noticed, but it is here. A very informative video.
This is a great discussion, and I would love to see a similar one that asks Is Your Favorite Pastor or influencer a 'Christian Nationalist' to the extent they are as invested in rightwing political agendas as much or more than the Bible and the Gospel of Christ, or they mix the two dangerously. I am seeing unfaithfulness on both sides of the equation.
You go girl!
I have pretty much come to the conclusion that any Christian book sold in a store like Target or Walmart probably isn't worth reading.
Except Alisa's book. Still need to order it.
@@dirkhoekstra727 I haven't seen her book at Target or Walmart, so I'm sure it's worth it.
@@amylm85 I live in the UK and have never been to Target or Walmart, but I would still imagine that's true
Actually we need to watchout and checkout material from sources like Lifeway, zondervan, Thomas Nelson etc. Amazon carries a huge array of emergent missional progressive material.
@@RealityCheck6T9 the closest thing to a Walmart in the UK is ASDA. They are big, mainstream corporations that donate to causes that are unbiblical.
Are these items that you listed anywhere in print? Perhaps in your Another Gospel book?
What does that colorful plaque leaned against your wall read? I have a very apparent coffee stain on my computer screen that is hovering over it, and its being out of focus is compelling me to ask about it.
I am a Christian myself. However I don't live in a world where Virgins become pregnant, where blind people are healed instantly through the power of God, where bread can be multiplied to feed thousands and where dead people wake up from the dead and walk out of their graves. I am not a Christian who believes in magic or that Jesus and even that God were magicians. Unless these Biblical stories are given a meaning that fits in with the 21st century we live in they would be looked upon as jokes by people of these times.
I like your hair 😁👍🏽
Well...
With all of these rejections how can they still call themselves christians?
Its like if I said I was a vegan who eats a lot of meat.
I haven’t got any favorites. So, no.
progressive christian biblical denials: 1- christ's atonement on the cross 2- biblical authority 3- original sin 4- sin is separation from God 5 - deity of Jesus 6- physical resurrection of Jesus 7- virgin birth 8- trinity 9- sinlessness of Jesus...and their affirmations: 1- LGBTQ relationships and marriage 2- universalism 3- critical race theory or social justice 4- religious pluralism 5- perennialism...thank you for providing clear and concise explanation of each red flag
Wow really good!
Remember only way to repent and be saved by Christ act 11:14-18, Luke 11:9-13 just follow only the original gospel tradition teaching not churches but Jesus will guide you personally to the end John 10:1-6,11-16,zeph 3:9and Acts4:12!
A lot of what you stated in the first list sounds like Mormonism.
I love your podcasts Alisa but the phrase "sin nature" does not appear in the Scripture. The Greek words "hamartia physis" never appear next to each other in any Greek manuscript. We are born with a flesh that is absent of the presence of God or the leading of the Holy Spirit and therefore it is the dictates of the sinful flesh that we follow as unbelievers. When we are born again that flesh is crucified with Jesus Christ according to Romans 6 and Galatians 5:24. The Greek word "sarx" is translated as flesh in the New Testament 143 times. Someone came up with the term sinful nature as a translation for sarx at some point and it took off for some reason. There is no such thing as a sinful nature. We were slaves to our flesh. That is why Romans 8:3 says that ""For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the FLESH, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the FLESH:" It was the flesh that was sinful so Jesus came to condemn sin which was in the flesh, not some nature.
Sin nature is just a term used interchangeably with the idea of the flesh. You’re actually talking about the same thing. It’s like saying “the word Trinity never appears in the Bible. Instead, the Bible does repeatedly mention three separate persons or beings making up the being of God...”
Everyone knows the words “Trinity” or “sin nature” don’t appear verbatim in the texts of Scripture. They’re useful doctrines used to concisely describe and encapsulate what the totality of Scripture says about something. I agree with everything you’ve said about the flesh. I also agree with Alisa when she talks about sin nature because I recognize she means the flesh. But of course, I also agree that we should be vigilant never to insert anything into our theology that isn’t directly from the Bible. I just don’t think Alisa’s doing that here. Hope that clears it up!
Sweeping, generalizing judgemental claptrap. See how these Christians love one another!
Christians weed out false minions like you hahahah wait you did that yourself just now thx
You're idea of love is obviously loving evil which is actually the opposite
Progressive 'christians' are not brothers in Christ.
Walter Martin will be forever my Pastor or Reverend or what he were the best. Better than William lame Craig or MacArthur or who else is out there today.
Conservatives/Fundamentalists have done a lot of damage to the world. Progressive Christianity simply attempts to make things better for all of God's children. Christ is one of many ways; we should all be open minded.
‘I am the way, the truth and the life, NO ONE comes to the father but BY ME’ - case closed.
What changed? you tell me
Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins.
Luke 7:47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”
1 Pet 4:8 And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.”
We do not live in a time of love and acceptance. We are increasingly political creatures these days, and far too many "Christians" interpret their religion to suit their politics. Anyone who reads this and thinks I am only talking about people on the "other side," or only people who share his own politics, misunderstands me. The political intrusion is on both sides of the political spectrum.
In the list of denials with the exception of the Virgin Birth you described Islam and the Sociinian rationalists who have so much in common.
I had to stop the video and look up "cisgender". That's the most rediculous term and definition in the alphabet soup wars that I have heard yet!
Sounds like they deny all the truth of Jesus so I wonder what is left for them to believe in that makes thrm think they are Christian.
If they are trying to be "COOL"
"Hipster" Stay Away!!!!! Wolves in Sheep's Clothing
So great is Satan's power of deception that the tares often really suppose themselves to be children of the kingdom.
If Christians would test everything they hear against the Word of God there would be no dispute. Checking something out against the Word of God will immediately expose them if they are teaching false doctrine. On the other hand if the teachings are true, you are no longer following that person, but God. Please people dig into God's Word for yourselves.
I,m not interested in going to heaven if there are people I love who are not there. I would never enjoy it. How could If they are suffering forever and ever in a hell?
I know what you mean, believe me, but the gospel is for everyone. That's why we share with loved ones, but it's up to them to receive it. If you come to know Him, which you should, you can share with them as well. Just pray the Lord will use you.
@@denisemayosky1955 And those who have already died without believing? Also, it is unrealistic that simply because I tell people something that they will end up believing it. We are too individual for that. I have many people I love who believe all sorts of different things; that is partly why I love being with them. They are not the same as me. I,m willing to learn from them as much as them learning from me. Telling someone they are going to hell is an evil thing to say and would be an abuse of my friendship. Again, I say that heaven would not be heaven without those I love there.....all of them!
Not very related to this video...but have you ever looked into the wisdom books (Job Proverbs and Ecclesiastes) and how deconstructed christians delt with the truth found in them (if they had read them)?
Job is a book of 'lessons' that basically means 'God causes suffering and kindness for sometimes no reason, at all'.
@@Azhiru as I read it God did not "cause" anything to happen to Job. The Satan did not have to do anything bad to Job.
I think that God's conversation with Job sums up the book. Job never gets an answer to his question of "why" but he does gain an understanding of the omnipotence and omniscience of God....
As well as a very humbling understanding of his own inadequacy to manage all of creation.
Of course, if the Bible cannot be trusted...then the book of Job offers no wisdom to the reader.
@@ericirwin4385 The book of Job is "Satan says that Job doesn't love God unconditionally" and god say "Oh, that could be right, let me take away his job/family/friends/health." The sole actor n that story is God, and he's just torturing him to see if he's loyal. Which he was.
He also killed like, 10 people in that story?
Also, things that aren't 100% true can still offer wisdom. Allegory and things are used for lesson telling. Jesus told fables; if those aren't 100% true (and they aren't, by definition) do they have no wisdom?
@@Azhiru Doesn't Job 1:12 read differently than that ? May I ask from what translation are you quoting? All the ones that I am familiar with say that Satan was given power over Jobs stuff and life circumstances. Satan,not God, does all of the bad things and he is not even ordered to.....unless the phrase "test him" is indeed an order to do evil.
Interesting...about Jesus telling fables to teach lessons... even that statement has no weight IF the Bible is not a trustworthy account of the Life of The Christ.
The point I was attempting to make is that how one views the nature of the Bible influences one's faith in the Jewish Messiah and one's world view.
Azhiru...I agree with you...I think...Job never questions whether God exists...he does want to know why something bad happened to him...and to his merit assumes that it is his fault and wants to correct it. It seems to me that the friends and Job to some extent are trying to figure out God's sense of justice on the earth...ultimately they are all wrong in their conclusions...save Job at the end when he figures out that no human (spoke of things that he did not understand or comprehend) can judge God's justice or HIS reasoning.
My point is the Bible teaches that God does not always give the answer as to why bad things are are allowed to happen nor does He view humans as his equal in wisdom or knowledge to debate such things. He implies for us to trust Him implicitly.
My OP was asking how former Christians who deconstructed and fell away from Biblical faith in God reacted to the truths found in these wisdom books that deal with the tougher questions of life. If any even read them or considered what they teach/imply about the relationship between The Creator and His created.
'Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.' Matt 7:21
This should be the scariest scripture in the entire Bible for Christians.
I fully agree with you as a progressive! But you left out the description in Matt 7:22 " Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’" Tell me if you think it is the progressive Christians that will say that, in verse 22?
@@PjotrII People can call themselves whatever they like, I suppose. It doesn't change what Jesus said; '... only the one who does the will of my Father...' will enter the kingdom of heaven. If being a progressive causes someone to do something contrary to the will of the Father, they need to know that's a problem. I think that may be what Alisa is doing.
@@teej0813 Yeah, here we meet a common problem (that actually don´t have anything to do with progressive views). If we start to tell others what problems they have, instead of focusing on our own (as we are often eager to do it, and it is easier to critique others than to correct ourselves). Jesus talked about it in Matthew 7:1-5 "“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."
some ideas for a better planet
Matthew 5: 27-28
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Luke 17:1
And he said to his disciples, “Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come!
better stop producing / uploading / watching "music videos".. (or similar videos, pics, profile pictures, thumbnails, title names, headlines, usernames + harmful comments, bad words, swearing, lies, disrespect, harmful lyrics etc! on social media + everywhere else too.
"Temptations to sin" / seduction etc. must stop)
start deleting? censoring etc?
destroy your smartphones, cams, data storage devices etc? would be better.
remove temptations / seduction + other evil things from TV, magazines, radio stations, broadcasting etc? would be better.
many young people are watching those videos (or reading / typing harmful comments, or doing other bad things!) etc. all over the world. and its NOT ok!
parents? (or people in authority): intervene?! seriously
wait.. there is more:
harmful drawings / comics / animations etc, clothing / styles / hairstyles / behaviour, facial expressions, gestures, dancemoves, acting, exercises, sports etc.
harmful things in video games, news, reports, interviews, vlogs / blogs, tutorials, movies, series, trailers, entertainment shows, video productions! (+ backgrounds + surroundings), books, art, artworks, calendars, posters, business flyers, catalogues, leaflets, packagings, stickers etc. (words, speeches (+ voice types, vocal color etc), music, sounds, visuals, references! etc)
harmful things in stores and online shops, advertisements + advertising, commercials..
+ better stop online dating and other harmful things!
maybe..
support ocean or river! clean up organizations? (i think it is of high importance) (in india, pakistan, africa etc)
+ support animal welfare (animal shelters (money for food or new fluffy dog beds? blankets?, small fluffy carpets? (+ washing machines?), pet vitamin supplements, + pet supplies (dog toothbrushes?), pet toys, dog hairbrush? (parasites!) bath towels, medical checks, dental care? / nail, paw care? etc. pet heating pads? heated dog houses? (for winter or in cold areas), pet cooling mats / pads (on hot days, summer), diesel powered portable generators? (outdoor electric power generation) (to run vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc), solar lamps?, transport vehicles, maintenance work + other improvements, additional staff + volunteers, more safety, beautifications? etc. topiary??
+ animal rescue ? (dog rescue projects in india?), animal hospitals?? (in poor countries or districts) or homeless people in your area? (btw governments should help these people! seriously. fast / adequate / individual support?!)
support some of them?
+ always be careful: corona etc!
or become a firefighter, volunteer firefighter (+ driver? (pump operator), paramedic or ER doctor? ER nurse? ambulatory care? or shuttle service? (for people with disabilities)
+ be cautious: corona, hepatitis, tuberculosis etc!
become an instructor? (fire and rescue?, emergency medical services?, advanced driving techniques?, advanced first aid?, psychological first aid?, wound care management!? + preventions (decubitus!, contractures!, thrush!, periodontitis!, loneliness?? etc) (nursing homes / home care / hospitals etc + training seminars for employees) + hygienics?, high angle rescue techniques?, first aid for pets?, basic pet care?, junior firefighter programs?)
start reading medical books? (anatomy? / physiology? / ECG interpretation? / EMS (paramedic books?) or nursing books? or blood banking and transfusion medicine? or dental engineering? medical or rescue engineering? medical dictionary? (illustrated)
become a dog trainer? (rescue dogs, avalanche rescue dogs, therapy dogs) education? + watch out! dogs, cats etc. can transmit / spread corona!
become an animal rescuer or animal doctor? + watch out! CORONA! (protection, safety measures etc)
caution! they say: Coronaviruses are zoonotic, meaning they are transmitted between animals and people!
maybe.. plant a tree? many trees? a walnut tree?? in a park, garden or backyard?
a walnut tree = food source (for birds etc) + oxygen generator.
+ provide water for animals in summer? fresh water source? or bird bath?
or food? (daily? or several times a week?)
use checklists to improve efficiency?
snowy days? become a snowplow driver? (volunteer?)
or towing service worker?
or pharmaceutical supplier?
+ be cautious: corona!
new technologies + other cool things:
Far-UVC light (222nm) efficiently and safely inactivates airborne human coronaviruses?? (+ flu virus and many other?)
do research? progress? + installations? (in offices, busses, trains, cars, restrooms, elevators, classrooms, corridors, stairwells, hospitals etc?) .. could save lives.
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Isn’t the phrase “progressive Christian “ an Oxymoron?
They're not progressive. They're squishy, like a rotten tomato.
Guild240 I completely agree. Why does she continue to call them "Christians"? They deny the main tenets of the Bible and salvation and thus are not followers of Christ. She should call them "Progressives"
@@ronbridegroom8428 well they "identify" as Christians sadly
@@ronbridegroom8428 aka Liberals - hahaha!
@@vendradi Ironic and sad the contempt Christians display toward others, complementing one another on the clever use of quotations and labels to disparage one another. And in the name of a "true Christianity."
Who is my neighbor?
Wow, you really did your homework, this is excellent. I had no idea how ignorant I was on this subject. I'm going to listen to it again and take notes this time. Thank you for listening to God's voice and allowing him to work in your life, you are blessing others in ways you have no idea. May the Lord uphold you in every way, in Jesus name amen.
She really has, I recommend her book.
Anytime I hear a Progressive Christian talking point, I cannot help but see in real time the prophetic fulfillment of 2 Timothy 4:3-4, itching ears eager to turn from the truth. God help us.
You and I have the same habit.
So what is the 'truth', as you see it? Because much of the bible is full of... incredibly non-modern-christian-things, such as sins of the father being cast down upon their children and the enslavement of women.
@@Azhiru Before I go through effort to answer, are you asking out of sincerity and inquisitively (like Thomas in John 14v5-6), or are you asking out of sarcasm and mockery (like Pilate in John 18v37-38)?
@@MAN-pp4qg I'm asking in a legitimate sense. Through my life, I have seen many people talk of being involved in the religion but they heavily cherry pick specific things they think fit better. There are a lot of awful and horribly restrictive things in the bible, but they are usually handwaved away.
Also, I'm asking like me, not someone in the book.
@@Azhiru I wanted to establish that because the attitude behind a question matters a great deal. I pointed to those two examples which both talk about truth and Jesus' relationship to the truth. Jesus did answer Thomas but did not answer Pilate and I personally believe it was at least partly because of their respective attitudes behind their questions. That said, which specific verses are you referring to that you take issue with? Oh, and are you a self-professed Christian?
Progressive christianity sounds a lot like "modern spiritual gnosticism"
Yes! Definitely, they are obsessed with finding that “secret knowledge”
Nothing new under the sun
@Dominik Neubert I don´t see that similarity, could you elaborate a little?
More like a luciferian cult
the gender and racial justice issues are two big ones that I see in what were once conservative churches.
Preach Jesus and nothing else!
Conservatism is NOT Christianity... Christianity is Christianity
@@HonestLeighSpeaking conservatism aligns with Christianity. Progressivism does not. It really is that simple.
@@Eric-1776 No, that's simplistic. There's a difference. I agree it's not good that this new doctrine is sneaking in, but just because someone isn't a conservative doesn't mean they don't love or follow God. I agree with being more conservative in regards to Biblical truth, but you can still believe in that, and still have a more progressive view of social issues. I don't see them really contradicting each other in their pure form.
@@denisemayosky1955 you’re correct, it Is simplistic. Truth is both simplistic and timeless. Twisting, convoluting, evolving, or more simply “progressing” to meet ones desired utopia fails to align with Christianity.
There is NO way to the Father, except through me.- Jesus
amen
Who is Jesus
No one ever called him Jesus when he walked the earth. John the Baptist said he wouldn't know except the 1 who sent him to baptize told him it was the 1 upon whom the Spirit descended.
Must know the Prophets to know the Anointed One.
They get around that by saying there are many ways TO Jesus. Seriously.
@@worldupsidedown1 Yessir exactomondo
Which is exactly why we must know the Word ourselves. He was described through all the Prophets gospels and Apostles writings. We must be personally familiar with him and that only happens by His Word the Bible.
@@worldupsidedown1 it's not an authentic saying of Jesus. It's an anachronism that the writer of John put in Jesus' mouth after the faithful were able to contemplate the extent of the meaning of Jesus' resurrection. It's the appropriate way for the faithful to look at Jesus because his words are light and life, coming from God. But in no way should it be taken to mean how evangelicals tend to interpret it. The synoptics are silent on statements like this coming from Jesus, and certainly such an outlandish thing to say would not have gone unaccounted for by every single one of the synoptic writers! At best we must understand here that John is portraying Jesus speaking as the Logos which is in keeping with the theme of the book--it is written with considerable theological development. Yes it is true that Jesus is the way the truth and the life, and the Cosmic Logos is teaching through him, but it doesn't mean that there are not people in the world who never heard of Jesus, yet who are children of God and part of the body of Christ because they nevertheless followed in the narrow Way of the Logos that has been with man perennially.
For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. God is love.
But why can't this all powerful god just... say we're safe? Why did he have to sacrifice himself to himself to save us from himself?
@@Azhiru The same as why the Govt can't just say from now on no one will be prosecuted when they break the Law. How would you feel if they did and someone you loved was raped or burgled etc. Because justice is justice. God is EQUALLY just as he is loving. Love can't count out justice because it is who God is at his core and so he died to balance love with justice. Justice is met and paid for. Love is fulfilled. The same as if i was a judge and someone came in front of me whom i loved. Because i love them i can't just let them go on that basis and call myself just. What i can do though is fine them and then pay their fine.
@@Azhiru Our God is a God of justice. He cannot just look the other way, but Jesus took the punishment for our sin on Himself, because He loved us and wanted us with Him. Jesus said, 'I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father, except by me.' Azhiru, I can see you asking a lot of questions in this comment section, but a question I always have when I see unbelievers asking question after question is: If you know the truth, why don't you just accept what God has offered you? It is a free gift. Why do you need to constantly argue and judge Him? Why not just receive His salvation with gratitude?
@@wingandaprayer935 Because to my understanding of justice, that ISN'T justice. I can't just walk into a court and ell some other guy "Hey, I want to take his punishment:, because it doesn't allow any retribution or teaching. That's just giving a loophole?
2 Corinthians 11:13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
MATTHEW 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
MATTHEW 7:16
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
MATTHEW 7:17
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
MATTHEW 7:18
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
MATTHEW 7:19
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
MATTHEW 7:20
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Ephesians 5:6
6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.
Ephesians 5:7
Therefore do not be partners with them.
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
2 Thessalonians 2:4
He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
Seem like the Bible warns over and over about these people. Hmm... Wonder why they've never read about themselves.
Oh. My. God. That perfectly describes me!
How did the Bible know!? It must be the infallible, inerrant word of God!
Great job Alisa!!
Some of the most high-profile Christian leaders are part of it? When are we as a church starting to name names and stop giving these people the cover of obscurity in our fellowship. If someone is a wold, call him out, by name. Tired of the fear of not naming names and seeing these wolves tear the flock apart with any fear of exposure.
Just a thought here - sometimes people reject the idea that people they are loyal to are not preaching the true gospel so they are more receptive to tools that help uncover these people rather than names outright. I think Alisa gives a great guideline and tools for people to think for themselves and thus discover the truth.
@@ItsReallyKyleandBianca True. But is that what leaders should do? If you knew of wolves would you tell those who follow you or those you are responsible for just general principles and give them tools to discover them for themselves? I think it is time to name names. Especially in light of CRT invading the church. Except for a few most just whisper the names of those bringing in these false teachings n personal conversationS. When is the time right to name names? I think it is now.
We made the mistake with the health and wealth gospel in the past and now it permeated the church. Being on TBN in those days was more important than naming names.
Im currently getting in debates in church with people who believe everyone always gets healed. They ignore Timothy's frequent illness and Paul's advice to him to take a little wine for his stomach. And of course the answer is that he wasn't really sick but just constantly having an intake of foods that had bacteria. Thus, he wasn't really sick as such. Either way Paul didn't claim the power of God to protect our stop this. Unfortunately, our church doesn't preach sound doctrine. And so we have a mishmash of individuals with various theologies that make for a very confused fellowship with weak leadership. They seem to worship unity in and of itself as more essential than sound teaching. I guess for them it keeps the numbers up and 'money coming in the door.'
Paul’s “thorn” too?
^healed ... not beaked! Typo, apologies
Time to leave that church.
Hello everyone, I am a progressive Christian! First I would like to point out that progressives are not one group where everyone thinks the same (which thankfully is mentioned in this video). In my 25 years, mostly among other progressive Christians, listening to social media posts, being in progressive groups etc, I have NEVER heard anyone say they believe in panteism. Some of the other claims are also a bit in outerspace, but then again some ideas are more common among parts of progressives. In the end it comes down to ONE question - is the bible 100% inspired (= as it was written) by God or not. The conclusions each individual then make, is connected to that. If the bible is 100% true (not one letter wrong), then the "main" progressive view is false. If the bible is not 100% true, some words or letters are "false" or man made, then the "main" progressive view is true, and fundamentalism is false.
The irony is that a Christian singer that I followed for years had me reexamining my faith after sharing the Kenneth Copeland meme, and learn that this singer began preaching Universalism.
Perhaps all Christian recording labels should have the lyrics of Christian artists run through a pretty rigorous theological vetting before being published performed or recorded.
We should be following Jesus, not people. Read the Bible and pray.
Exactly!!
Alisa, thank you for writing a book that is taking a complex issue and making it accessible. My family just finished it and then we bought 3 copies for our pastors not because we think they might be progressive but because we wanted to help equip them on a issue that is starting to destroy some churches
Thank you! You helped me understand what a few of my family members are believing.
@Jean Kolbo I´m quite sure, that it was not such a big help as you thought. What if you talked to your family members, instead of hearing from others what they think your family members might believe and why.
We recently left our big church for a small church. I felt God say you need to go smaller to get bigger.
BTW love your hair!! 😊
Let's stop calling them Christians if they don't repent of their heresies.
Yes, let´s make a sect, and then reject anyone who disagrees with my, no sry, your opinion.
@@PjotrII your not goin to make anything control freak god wannabe hahahah
@BeauPierre Bondurant Matt 7:2 "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" Matt 24:40 "Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me."
Like baby killing
@@JV-tg2ne Do you consider killing babies evil?
He Alisa, your points are so clear and I think you nailed it. I would love to add or explain why Jesus said to the Canaanite woman that “It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs, (Matt. 15:26). The reason I want to explain this topic is because of my Isrselites background.
Here, Jesus had a purpose to say that. 1) Because the Israelites considered the other nations sinners or (dogs), 2) Jesus meant to say that to the Canaanite woman, as a Jew, but his aim was to show to his disciples that the Canaanite woman is not a (dog) as the Israelites considered her because of her background. 3) Jesus showed his disciples that even the non-Jews are accepted by him, through faith in (Christ) and the Gentiles are God's creation, and through (Christ) no Jew or Gentile, but two become one 4) Jesus said, " O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire" (Matt. 15:28). Finally, Jesus showed his Jews disciples that this Canaanit woman has faith in him, more than the other Jews who rejetced Christ.
Very interesting that my comment got deleted. Alisa, do you personally delete your comments or is it someone who works with you? Not a fan of dissenting voices are you?
I think of myself as a progressive Christian, and I am weary of the arguments I've been engaged throughout most of my life with religious people from all faiths who come up with their volatile certainties. This is fine for individuals , but it doesn't work for religious organizations , specially if they are keen on marketing themselves to unbelievers. Doubt doesn't sell, certainty does. This is why conservative religion along with their followers are gradually heading in the direction of the dinosaurs.
Why should any church or group of believers be keen on ‘marketing themselves’ to unbelievers? This is the problem with the seeker friendly church system in the west, church is treated like a business with its marketing strategy trying to entice people. This is not how the gospel is preached.. The gospel is preached with power and not with persuasive words.
I am sorry if you do not believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ you are not a Christian and aren’t worthy to even call yourself that. You are a heretic who needs to repent and return to what you knew first.
@@NoContextRDH I am a thinking Christian with a mind. Not a Donkey with no brain who walks with the herd. I am a Christian who refuse to believe in nonsense. God bless
@@TikTok-se4cb Amen 💛
Progressivism is in my view to dare ask hard questions, sometimes finding plausible answers, sometime not. It is not the "certainty", 100% true doctrines that someone claim. Those ideas are as you suggest from a time passed by. As the certainties are not based upon truth, I think they will witter away, slowly. Everything good to you, may Jesus bless you!
Sounds like Rob Bell, Bethel, NAR,
Bethel is in no way progressive. Come on now. Get to truly know what they reach before making such judgement. I agree with you on Rob Bell
NAR and Bethel aren't progressive. They have their own errors but that isn't one of them.
@@reedermh progressive or not they are still false teachers
Let’s also add if they throw away the Old Testament as a whole, Paul’s epistles, and God’s wrath towards sin.
Just as long as you recognize that what you are identifying as progressivism does not mean somehow " new" or recent, or somehow a varient on longstanding orthodoxy in Christianity. Perennialism has a long history in Christianity.
Mystic and contemplative practice has a long history that predates the theology of protestantism.
Divinization predates protestantism.
The Cosmic Christ is found in Colossians 1:15-17, John 1:1-16; 1John 1; Ephesians 1 and the tradition of Church father's recognizing Christ's Cosmic existence pre dates Constantine.
Universal reconciliation can be identified in passages in the Gospel and the writing's of Church father's about those passages like Origen and Gregory of Nyssa, and others. 1000+ years before Martin Luther was born.
Issues like original sin are tradition based as are the theories of atonement.
I think if you want to address these issues fine. The idea of progressivism is a modern construct that at best is historically inaccurate.
Well...
I think that labeling people as “Progressive Christians” based on her definition is problematic. For example, if someone has a desire to fight for the oppressed, one of the viewers of this video will label that person “progressive”. And, therefore not Christian. This leads to judging someone without getting to know who they are are where they rely stand on biblical truth.
This is an instructive, but dangerous video. A book I recommend is Escaping the Beast.
Awesome video! Very concise. Would you happen to know of a resource where people can go to look up a list of well known pastors/public speakers who preach contrary to God's Word?
Lighthouse Trails ministry has great resources for this.
I was going to recommend Lighthouse Trails as well.
As long as your pastor isn't preaching to kill witches or family members of other religions, they're actively denying the word of the bible. Or if they ever eat a shellfish. Or a woman who speaks in church (1 Corinthians 14:34-35). Or says slavery is evil (Bible endorses it several times, both testaments).
@@Azhiru I highly recommend a video by whaddyo you meme on several of the topics you just brought up.
@@Azhiru The answers to this stuff is bible 101. Get yourself some basic discipleship and you will be better prepared.
The problem with this is that beliefs are malleable. I know a lot of universal reconciliation beleivers that are also conservative and Republican in thier cultural politics. I'm one of them and I cannot stand liberal Christian gospels, yet I do not beleive in ECT or eternal conscious torment. I do beleive Hell exists. And Im just here to point out that sometimes certain topics arent an absolute hallmark of a person's politics. I'm not here to debate ECT.
For any women looking for a sound teacher I recommend them to you... keep up the great work
If someone wants to know the truth, it takes a lot... both with information, courage to dear question and ask hard, critical questions, sum up the results, not from one person, but from a bigger picture. Still far to go!
Jude wrote a warning about progressives worming their way into the early Church: "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord." And it gets worse about progressives as the letter comes to and end.
I took a course recently on the Holy Spirit. There are a lot of new contextual pneumatologies. Some areas are process theology pushing into process pneumatology. This is what gives "creedence" to eco-pneumatology, feminine-pneumatology, panentheism and pantheism. Process and open theology is a root "enabler" to all of this progressive nonsense. Alisa, you should go after the root as well, what you are discussing are branches and manifestations of the philosophical foundations at play here.
I want to bring some thing up here regarding "progressive". I heartily affirm Alisa here. The deity of Christ, the bodily resurrection of Christ, the Trinity, etc. However, some of these things are more multivalenced in historic Christian theology and are broader than we as Evangelicals will affirm. When you talk about what you do being more important than what you believe, this is where I think we need to be careful. Sola Fide is a Reformation tenant. It is very good in its intention. I would be careful in its implementation. The Gospel is more than individual conversion. And conversion is more than believing the right thing. I think there is a push in the church toward a critical theory justice gospel. But there is also a push to have a larger perspective of what the Kingdom of God is. These are two different movements with different objectives and different sources. But they get confused as being the same thing. The second move is very good! There is a correction happening where redemption is the realization that God is reconciling all things to himself in Christ. Paul is focused primarily with the individual as that is who he is talking to. But in the background he is always commenting on how all of life is being pulled into the new Creation of his Kingdom. Can you make a video talking about this distinction? I see a lot of good scholars who are fixing a platonic dichotomistic world view where God is interested in saving souls but couldn't care less about the economy, social structures, or other biblically normative issues. It is as if half of the concerns of OT prophets (idolatry and social justice- being the two halves) have been eliminated in the NT and now God really only cares about the interior of people's souls. So if Christians mourn with Amos or Joel, and call the church to repent in these areas, we are villified as social justice, woke. But it is clear that God would not consider repentance from idolatry to be real if it was not accompanied by biblical justice. So Evangelicals, to stay on the safe side, throw out all justice to not be associated with the "woke". But God cared about this way before BLM emerged.
If a "progressive Christina" denies the Atonement... well yeah, that one would be a BIG red flag. It's central to the Gospel and there would have been no resurrection without it.
I've been reading a book called 'Game of Gods" by Carl Teichrib and Alisa's video reminds me of the Oneness movement that has been around for some time and now we are seeing it in the Christian church. A strategic planned out scheme by organizations all over having meetings, social gatherings & festivals that use inviting words, themes & speeches but are all for a universal religion of all faiths coming together as One in a utopian togetherness of cosmic energy with nature being worshipped in place of our Christian one Holy God. It's all about the New World Order. These ideas have been around for years but they say it takes time for transformation. 😲😔
Why don't you call these folks what they are? Children of disobedience?
sounds like Gnosticism is still alive and well, 2000 years later. sad..
Good word, let's clarify a bit more, Progressive Christianity is false teaching and false converts. In other words it's not Christianity, not teacings of Yeshua. Narrow is the gate. Matthew 7:13-14
That scripture keeps coming into my thoughts.... The church seems to have forgotten the verse, or perhaps they never knew it. I think the gate/path is a lot narrower than I used to think. So much is being exposed and so many are falling away... So very sad.😢🙏🇨🇦❤️✝️
Ever had bacon? Then you're screwed.
Alisha, I graduated form Princeton Theological Seminary in 1990. What you have described has been around for a very long time. It’s now referred to as Progressive Christianity. In the 1920’s it was simply referred to as Liberalism and contrasted with Christianity by J. Gresham Machen.
Failure to separate from worldliness is also a sign of progressive Christianity.
Thank you for the list! I'm a pastor in a rural sbc church and happy to know that I'm NOT progressive...not like I thought I was, but it's good to have confirmation. But seriously though this is a good video that's concise and helpful for those who don't know what to look for in a pastor or leader
Well, I'm progressive politically, but not doctrinally. I hate that this new heresy has snuck in, claiming the label of "progressivism", because then that sneaks over into and intermingles with politics, so that anyone not deep red is viewed as the "enemy", rather than someone you just disagree with. I mean, politics has gotten downright ugly nowadays! But yeah, false doctrine under ANY label should not be tolerated!
Woke!🙌🏾👏🏾 I thank God for your channel and may he continue to work through you to spread the truth on all false doctrine. God bless you Alisa!
Calling good evil and evil good, scary times we live in, like the days of Noah, especially when it's "believers" justifying what God clearly calls evil
What standard does God use to determine whether something is good or evil?
@Question Asker,
Does it really matter? ...and why would you care, unless you want to evaluate whether or not it meets with your approval?
@@christincommon5496 Are you really asking if it matters what standard your God uses? Do you even care about his moral framework? How can you evaluate whether something is good or evil if there is no standard?
@@questionasker8791 I can evaluate whether something is good or evil by using God's word, which is the plumbline. God's "moral framework" is perfect holiness. That's all I need to know.
@@christincommon5496 If it is indeed divine command theory, then how do you distinguish between a Good Creator and an Evil Creator?
Love your presentations and which pastors you support and don't support Alisa... Spot on. 🙏🙏 GOD bless you, your family and your ministry. 🙏❤🇿🇦
Wait a minute... Why do they call themselves christians??? I dont get it.
Hello! Maybe I can help. I am a progressive Christian. While I make it short here, I believe in God, the creator of the universe, I believe Jesus came as God´s son, to reveal his love for us humans. Everyone have sinned, no one can claim they are pure in front of God. Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and through him we can be forgiven. By looking at Jesus (how he acted towards other human beings) we can reflect on who we are, and strive to become better persons (this strive, however in my view, NEVER get´s us to become perfect = we always need to turn to Jesus).
That is the core of my belief, therefore I am a Christian.
On issues like the bible, our views may differ. For example, I do not believe that the bible was (written, or if we say inspired in such a way that it is perfect). Can there be inspiration from God on some level (even a lot at places) YES, but in my personal experience it is false to claim that there are no errors or contradictions in it.
When I am not sure about all writers and their stories, the focus is on Jesus. if one simplifies, some conservatives say "the bible should explain the bible", for me I would say that I compare the bible with Jesus. If something is similar to what he says it´s more likely inspired, if something contradicts Jesus it´s more likely not inspired by God.
I do not speak for other progressives, as progressivism is not a "teaching". These are MY opinion and beliefs.