Maybe one goal was to make an alchemical ingredient with similar effects and potency to vampire dust that can be cultivated without the danger of hunting vampires
Could just be an experiment on the viability of vampirism on different lifeforms, to test the extent of it. Plants are more contained than animals, after all. Or just to experiment on cures. It would be interesting to have the thoughts of whomever wrote that...
Perhaps to make plants resilient against the cold, disease, etc. So they can grow in winter, and harsh places too. The character stated that the benefits should be obvious, so we should look at the superficial benefits vampirism provides humanoids.
My theory is that since you can create them in a few days and their lifespam is too short to ever be dangerous, they could be planted in dark places and get rid of any creature that plagues it, like skeevers and giant spiders.
I see 3 plausible theories, of which 2 & 3 are not mutually exclusive: 1. Sheogorath done derp-nerfed Amantius's mind into madness. 2. The experiment is meant to test: - Whether Vampirism can affect flora as well as it does fauna. - To what extent it does so and are there differences between various plant species. If so, what are the key differences that affect the changes? - To see what actual physical, magical and especially alchemical changes occur in the flora. This is for assessing and countering the possibility of such a threat appearing naturally, or perhaps as a "biological weapon" developed by vampires. 3. To produce vampiric alchemical ingredients for some purpose, such as: - Developing a cure for vampirism. - Developing poisons that work on vampires despite their undead nature, to help vampire hunters. - Increasing the potency of existing magical ingredients. - Altering the effects of ingredients. - Creating hardier ingredients that can be grown without sunlight. - Creating some kind of a blood substitute potion for vampires so they wouldn't need to feed on other people and animals. Like the serum Marvel's Blade uses.
You might be right, if it’s just a surface level idea copied from his experiment and process and everyone else is overthinking it and trying to speculate even more insidious and grand plans and potential uses for such a thing, which is interesting in of itself lol.
I think he cultivated little vampire plants to maybe tranfer the perks to men and mer. Like being able to cure diseases or live longer without becoming undead or so...
Could have also been to create (relatively) harmless test subjects to work on finding other sources of nutrition that could stand in for blood in order to provide an alternate source of food for vampires.
The story of vampire plants reminds me of little shop of horrors in the sense that they tasted human blood and decided to go all "feed me, Seymore" on their creator
I suspect this is an elaborate reference to "Little Shop of Horrors". In said Stage Play/Movie, the protagonist, Seymour, discovered a new plant that he named "Audrey 2" after a coworker he likes. In a moment of frustration, he discovers that Audrey 2 feeds on blood, and the play/movie Chronicles his efforts until he eventually realizes he's in too deep and the (now talking) plant now needs whole humans worth of blood, and his attempts to destroy it.
I feel like maybe by “for the good of all of cyrodil” he meant the same thing as we mean men when we say “for the good of mankind”, ie he meant he was studying it so that we would know more and not for any other reason besides to acquisition of knowledge
I can’t wait to replay Oblivion with an older perspective and find fresh excitement in little easter eggs like this that I didn’t notice back in middle school. I’ll investigate the flowers themselves to see if there’s any irl inspiration there. I mostly agree with the delve security theories, the healing theories, and the long lasting rare ingredient theories. The winter crop theory I don’t really jive with because it’s not a sustainable conversion of nutrients imo to make it worth it, but that’s coming from someone who does grow/forage/hunt a good portion of their food 🤷🏼♀️ Otherwise, are there any hints of Amantuis’ religious leanings? Would the flowers be able to act as substitute sacrifices for Daedra or vampires? If I get any more clues in the new playthrough I guess I’ll just post them here.
I think he stopped the research because if this knowledge would spread out, it would have world-shattering consequences - imagine if vampires started infecting plants all around the world, to spread chaos. He hoped to save the people from this by keeping people (and vampires) ingnorant of this fact.
If Vampire plants can drink human blood, can Vampire humans drink plant blood? Or is it that the plants were forced with a human strain of vampirism, hence why they needed human blood specifically?
Wow, it finally happened. Its been so long already since Skyrim, that Im finally sick of TES lore and history. Fudgemuppet and this great channel, now give me dizziness and feel like throwing up. Damn. Is not their fault.
"Can plants become vampires? The answer is obviously yes." without as much as a stutter is a sentence I think I could only hear in this fandom.
I'm guessing they were for research, maybe on how to cure vampirism. Like lab rats, but safer than vampiric rats which sound scary.
this was my theory too
Maybe one goal was to make an alchemical ingredient with similar effects and potency to vampire dust that can be cultivated without the danger of hunting vampires
I have a theory. I think they could be used like leeches were, for medical purposes. You could grow them where leeches are hard to get.
Damn, imagine that 😳 sounds cool
Thats a cool theory 😊
Could just be an experiment on the viability of vampirism on different lifeforms, to test the extent of it. Plants are more contained than animals, after all. Or just to experiment on cures. It would be interesting to have the thoughts of whomever wrote that...
Perhaps to make plants resilient against the cold, disease, etc. So they can grow in winter, and harsh places too. The character stated that the benefits should be obvious, so we should look at the superficial benefits vampirism provides humanoids.
Wouldn't you contract vampirism from eating them? 🤔
My theory is he was trying to make the plants vampiric so that he could find a cure for vampirism.
My theory is that since you can create them in a few days and their lifespam is too short to ever be dangerous, they could be planted in dark places and get rid of any creature that plagues it, like skeevers and giant spiders.
I see 3 plausible theories, of which 2 & 3 are not mutually exclusive:
1. Sheogorath done derp-nerfed Amantius's mind into madness.
2. The experiment is meant to test:
- Whether Vampirism can affect flora as well as it does fauna.
- To what extent it does so and are there differences between various plant species. If so, what are the key differences that affect the changes?
- To see what actual physical, magical and especially alchemical changes occur in the flora.
This is for assessing and countering the possibility of such a threat appearing naturally, or perhaps as a "biological weapon" developed by vampires.
3. To produce vampiric alchemical ingredients for some purpose, such as:
- Developing a cure for vampirism.
- Developing poisons that work on vampires despite their undead nature, to help vampire hunters.
- Increasing the potency of existing magical ingredients.
- Altering the effects of ingredients.
- Creating hardier ingredients that can be grown without sunlight.
- Creating some kind of a blood substitute potion for vampires so they wouldn't need to feed on other people and animals. Like the serum Marvel's Blade uses.
Ok this looks like a crazy and dark version of Gregor Mendel.
Oh whats that?
@@ImperialKnowledge Monk dude who discovered the principles of population genetics through the manipulation of pea-plants
You might be right, if it’s just a surface level idea copied from his experiment and process and everyone else is overthinking it and trying to speculate even more insidious and grand plans and potential uses for such a thing, which is interesting in of itself lol.
Random subject? Sure. But we love it
I think he cultivated little vampire plants to maybe tranfer the perks to men and mer. Like being able to cure diseases or live longer without becoming undead or so...
Could have also been to create (relatively) harmless test subjects to work on finding other sources of nutrition that could stand in for blood in order to provide an alternate source of food for vampires.
Either way, it's definitely a nice Little Shop of Horrors Easter egg.
I was gonna say that also. It definitely is!
*Would add some flair to a Vampiric Lair* 😏
Go play morrowind elite dewit
The story of vampire plants reminds me of little shop of horrors in the sense that they tasted human blood and decided to go all "feed me, Seymore" on their creator
This might be a reference to a little shop of horrors. About a plant that drinks blood, only difference is it is from space.
I suspect this is an elaborate reference to "Little Shop of Horrors". In said Stage Play/Movie, the protagonist, Seymour, discovered a new plant that he named "Audrey 2" after a coworker he likes. In a moment of frustration, he discovers that Audrey 2 feeds on blood, and the play/movie Chronicles his efforts until he eventually realizes he's in too deep and the (now talking) plant now needs whole humans worth of blood, and his attempts to destroy it.
at least he knew when to stop and didn't just become some villain that kidnapped people to feed, for his obsession for vampiric plants.
But can they become lycantropes? Imagine it... Wereflowers
I feel like maybe by “for the good of all of cyrodil” he meant the same thing as we mean men when we say “for the good of mankind”, ie he meant he was studying it so that we would know more and not for any other reason besides to acquisition of knowledge
I can’t wait to replay Oblivion with an older perspective and find fresh excitement in little easter eggs like this that I didn’t notice back in middle school. I’ll investigate the flowers themselves to see if there’s any irl inspiration there.
I mostly agree with the delve security theories, the healing theories, and the long lasting rare ingredient theories. The winter crop theory I don’t really jive with because it’s not a sustainable conversion of nutrients imo to make it worth it, but that’s coming from someone who does grow/forage/hunt a good portion of their food 🤷🏼♀️
Otherwise, are there any hints of Amantuis’ religious leanings? Would the flowers be able to act as substitute sacrifices for Daedra or vampires? If I get any more clues in the new playthrough I guess I’ll just post them here.
Great video. Thanks for the upload.
Honestly all of these ideas make sense but I think it'd be an assaination tool
I think it's just a reference to Little Shop of Horrors
"Gal bursten it"
Where'd you get that picture of Jiub fighting the cliff racers? I need that in my life, haha.
I wish the lecture series to return (
The secret origin of Crimson Nirnoot?
New sub, Would love for you to cover the eso 2022 trailer and give your opinion on the location etc.
What music u using for ur vid?
Could they have been used as weapons?
I wonder if Harkon somehow knew you could infect plants and animals with vampirism, and maybe he isn't as braindead stupid as everyone thinks
I think he stopped the research because if this knowledge would spread out, it would have world-shattering consequences - imagine if vampires started infecting plants all around the world, to spread chaos. He hoped to save the people from this by keeping people (and vampires) ingnorant of this fact.
If Vampire plants can drink human blood, can Vampire humans drink plant blood? Or is it that the plants were forced with a human strain of vampirism, hence why they needed human blood specifically?
Dude was definitely off his rockers. The vague goal of the betterment of the Empire is just the cognitive dissonance kicking in.
Why is there no Skyrim mod of this?
Gave shawty these plants she fucking ded now
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Wow, it finally happened. Its been so long already since Skyrim, that Im finally sick of TES lore and history. Fudgemuppet and this great channel, now give me dizziness and feel like throwing up. Damn. Is not their fault.