Gotta respect Cliff for keeping it honest and actually reacting to the music and not being biased because he has a relationship with Knox Hill. My favorite reaction channel.
Kudos for trying to be objective and giving balance and nuanced reactions. The stans be ruining everything because they are too emotional about their favorites
I'm saying...I've grown to hate all of this beef bullshit since people can't take any emotion out of their opinions. It's even making me regret talking about that shit in person. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean you can't be objective and give credit.
"But you've taken the black and white angle the entire time" Yup that's SCRU. That's why even though I was watching his reactions back in 2018 when he recorded videos mid shift, i stopped once drama started following him and he leaned heavy into black vs white. He was falling off, got a resurgence of new fans once he started reacting to ERB, and I imagine he'll lose them again once he drops diss 4 of Knox and it's "you're white though" again.
If you really listen to what he's saying it's not about "black vs white" YES it is black and white people, BUT it's about the culture. He didn't have anything that was black vs white, he did call himself racist without saying it though. Now it can be flipped but honestly Knox should've waited and done something better bc that ezmill shit did not hit as hard as maybe it would've later or earlier
@@rangerhallada406 as somebody that watched scru from back in the day. That's scru's mo, the only reason he doesn't get more explicit with it is because Upchurch ragdolled him last time he tried to, and I've never been an Upchurch fan. "They make the same song" yeah because you're a shitty person and it's the most obvious character flaw. And STALKER went hard, imo. Answered the remix bar by using his own beat. Slipped the culture angle by not responding, scru even gave him the out by showing Knox saying he isn't fronting by being from the culture. Continued the narrative that scru is a phony the uses people by showing receipts for Tom and Ez, and reminding them of the 4 horseman days with Crypt and Gawne. Even adding the John 1:08 to address the Aubrey bars was brilliant.
@@wait7547 he's used it on every single person, i used to like him when he was with crypt and all but he's bullshit he jumps from person to person using them for anything he can he's wack as hell
@@wait7547 "i only know scru from his eminem reactions" yet we are supposed to act like race isnt an underlying thing with you people fr??? You are literally proving Scru correct in saying most of yall only like Eminem
I appreciate the unbiased reactions! Whether I happen to agree or disagree with the opinion of a reactor, I'd always rather have a genuine reaction as opposed to one that seeks to pander to a particular audience/fan-base. In terms of what's being said in this beef, I think both Scru and Knox make some valid points. Both said things I agree with and things I didn't. Hopefully the conversation about this topic will help people consider things from opposite sides and lead to more informed opinions.
Imo the bar about Knox only dissing Benzino for a gold star from Em falls flat when the song Slime Shady is literally titled as a response to Lord Jamar who was a heavy Eminem hater at that time. Not trying to defend Knox, I like him AND Scru, just saying as a fan of both that if Knox dissing Benzino is him wanting attention, the same can be said about Scru responding to Lord Jamar
I really don't think that's the case, I think it's coincidental that when he says Knox isn't apart of the culture is because of things concerning race. Such as ignorance of racial discrimination leading to black brutality or deaths. That's not something that being white entails it's something that being ignorant of the culture and the situation around you entails. It just happens that Knox is white, and the thing he's ignorant of is black culture he's also ignorant of Gaza and Israel whole situation as he mentioned it in his track as a punchline for seemingly no reason. I also think when he says "You don't know the pain" etc etc, lines that reference race. he's not saying White People don't experience the pain black people do. he's saying that Knox as an individual has no right to rap about black struggles or racial discrimination or to comment on it, it feels very similar to the episode of south park when Stan's dad says the N Word and then Stan tries to talk to Token to explain to token that he's sorry on his dad's behalf which constantly blows up in his face until he finally just says "It's not that I don't understand" "it's that I can't understand" "Token I can't understand why it's so important!" and then Token forgave Stan. I think it's the same situation Instead of Knox saying "I can't understand that situation" he said "I didn't understand" which in some manner implies he understands now, which is almost most likely not the case. There's alot more bars that seem race implied like "Without eminem and without NF who are you" but that's not a racial diss. that's saying "you only stand from two artists and doesn't mean you're apart of the culture. (for example, if someone was only based off Kanye and Ski Mask, I wouldn't say they're necessarily apart of the culture, they're just someone who consumes two types of rap artists, and that's primarily it.) my main reason that I don't really believe Scru is racist like that is that he says Harry Mack is arguably on the same level as Juice WRLD As a freestyler, admits Eminem is one of the best rappers, thinks Lil Dicky is arguably one of the best modern rappers out there atleast in pure rap ability at his best. Is a huge fan of glorb despite the fact that Glorb can 100% be white, and he says "I don't care if he's not gangster, you can tell he's from the culture, he knows hip hop like that" he's someone who's really apart of us" and he was right. Glorb is an alternate name for a real hip hop artist. I also think the fact, he's born in nebraska, tells me the dude's seen more than hundreds of white people, and he says most of the ones he knows are nice people" but that the ones people be cheering for sometimes are white evil. which he then plays a clip of a racist white dude saying the N Word repeatedly, (To clarify why he's racist he's a conservative weirdo)
People are literally missing Scu Face's angles and most importantly the ON SCREEN receipts. Knox, on a screen shot, says "I AM KNOXHILL. I am not a product of hip hop... Mind you, Knox is also commenting on black culture while being insensitive to the plight (also brought up when he mentioned Scru's moms) of black people. Scru is pointing out how this is hypocritical. Wrong and Right. Getchya feelings and biases out of it. I didn't even get into the rebuttal of Knox calling Scru a cuck but is in drag 🤔... All in all, Scru put together a solid diss with even more re solid rebuttals.
Except the part, it’s not. He is clearly saying that it’s about being an appropriator/colonizer. Scru has never had a problem with white people in hip hop as long as they actually love and participate in the culture not just use it.
I was so mad at Kso for that shit. He's always so genuine in his appreciation for guys like Em and H Mack... For him to act like Knox and you are "outsiders"... that was some fucked up shit.
As a Black man, you should know that Black people cannot be racist. Please educate yourself on the definition of racism.. You’re providing false harbor for real racists. That said, ScruFace tore that UP.
Knowing the situation and your position here bro👏. Most unbiased reaction and i really appreciate your opinion. I agree with you 100. You are goated sir. Scru needs to take the time to watch this. You're a real one
If anything, he tried to prove his own point by going against his own point. As someone who is mixed myself and grew up basically only with the black side of the family, it is very rough when you hear someone attack someone for race regardless of what race they are. He himself says and then contradicts his own colonizer line by saying that he doesn't have to go that deep but he still mentions it and then still ends off by calling him a colonizer like five times. Scru had lost it lol. And then he goes on to say it's not about black and white while still calling out racial stuff that didn't actually happen. It's ridiculous.
It was prerecorded Einstein he didn’t respond “within the hour”. lol he didn’t respond to anything Scru said. Y’all really think Knox is all that but he’s wack as hell.
You honestly think this was better than the first? If anything it was more direct than the first. If he would have been this direct with the first it probably would have been a big W. But I think Knox up 2 now.
I really like how you have been doing the initial reactions first 👍 you know the real ones stick around for the whole thing 😅 I am sorry I didn’t catch the live’s just usually to busy plus they’re just not my type of thing I do rewatch tho usually 👍’s up from me
Cliff, I don't think Scru is saying he's not a part of the culture because he's white (if he is I disagree with that), it's because there are people who say things like "I don't like rap, but I like Em" etc....these peoples almost always have some sort of underlying world view that is anti black. Or, that he expresses values that don't align with hip hop history or culture. People forget this artform comes from opression. I don't even truly know if Knox is a vulture, but I'm just voicing someone is a volture based on how they treat the community and their world view (ex: Drake is more vulture like than J Cole, but they're both mixed).
Knox grew up in a black neighborhood, and grew with hip hop so he ain't no vulture, but his experiences can be different to black people coz of society but if only black people who who know discrimination and black pain can rap, does rap end when black people stop suffering?
@WeebtasticPrime No ofcourse not, as long as you are respectful to the history and understand it is what matters. Again, I have no idea if Knox is educated on these topics or comes from those backgrounds, I was speaking on general terms.
@gabrielbobowski7767 Yeah, I know, but discrediting the stuff they have done to the culture because they are "white" is kind of an odd hypocritical way to treat stuff, He points out how Knox using the dead black person as a bar is wrong but proceeds to make a similar bar against JFK? I'm not American, but wasn't he a very strong advocate of civil rights for minorities?
@@WeebtasticPrimeno it’s almost impossible for black to ever not have this angle. 70% of the country is white and 12% is black. Its hard to plead racism case when most of the country don’t even believe it exist. It’s an uphill climb everytime you take this angle true or not.
His beef with Upchurch WAS all about pigment! As is this one! EVERY reactor I have watched has said the SAME thing. Everyone's ears cannot be broken!!!
Got to love how scru uses the its not about black vs white its wrong vs right and he is using black vs white through the whole track and using that bar which was used by dax in the verse he did on black and white with tom macdonald and adam calhoun.
"Took another persons diss and took it as a personal attack" first benzino did diss Knox but even then this whole thing is because Knight talked about EZ and Scru took it as a personal attack and talked smack about Stevie. Basically saying him and EZ are so close that to attck one is to attack both lol. Which we now know is farthest thing from true. Still thos diss is good, not win battle good but still respectable. The NF comparison to KH is really good
Honestly, Scru is using a lot of not understanding subtext is language. The quote from Knox about not being a product of hip hop, he's very obviously saying that hip hop is part of who he is on a deeper level. It's just part of his nature. I identify with that. That's part of the culture that not a lot of people acknowledge. The feeling like you have to prove yourself and your love for hip hop before you can be taken seriously. I'm a 6'3 bearded white boy fully sleeved. But look at me crazy when I start talking about some of the Emcees I think are underrated and why.
I like that you clarified the experience with officers was just what you have seen. I’m from the north west suburbs of Chicago and it was primarily white and also a very small town so I have no experience from my younger age. I was in the military for 20 years and never saw anything like that in the military and none of us would have stood for it. We gave everyone equal shit! Stationed in Kansas I never saw police act wrong and we had large crews with all races constantly. So I will never argue it doesn’t happen but I haven’t seen and would not be quite if it did. I do know the south side is different so I’m sure in Chicago it’s crazy. You guys have shootings and stuff daily.
I saw his reaction. He did clarify some stuff when the clip about him came up but he didn't expose anything. All he said was he claimed to reach out to screw to offer some kind of help but that was never proven
True, I thought maybe shaq just said some wild stuff or was clipped out of context, but he clarified that he actually still believes what he said and doubled down.
Yeah… I didn’t even finish that song. It’s clearly a racist angle and honestly I think it should be called out for what it is. Just cause he’s black doesn’t mean he should get away with talking racist ish. I was hyped for the beef, but that was wack
I copied this from one of my other replies but this is my opinion on that take. I really don't think that's the case, I think it's coincidental that when he says Knox isn't apart of the culture is because of things concerning race. Such as ignorance of racial discrimination leading to black brutality or deaths. That's not something that being white entails it's something that being ignorant of the culture and the situation around you entails. It just happens that Knox is white, and the thing he's ignorant of is black culture he's also ignorant of Gaza and Israel whole situation as he mentioned it in his track as a punchline for seemingly no reason. I also think when he says "You don't know the pain" etc etc, lines that reference race. he's not saying White People don't experience the pain black people do. he's saying that Knox as an individual has no right to rap about black struggles or racial discrimination or to comment on it, it feels very similar to the episode of south park when Stan's dad says the N Word and then Stan tries to talk to Token to explain to token that he's sorry on his dad's behalf which constantly blows up in his face until he finally just says "It's not that I don't understand" "it's that I can't understand" "Token I can't understand why it's so important!" and then Token forgave Stan. I think it's the same situation Instead of Knox saying "I can't understand that situation" he said "I didn't understand" which in some manner implies he understands now, which is almost most likely not the case. There's alot more bars that seem race implied like "Without eminem and without NF who are you" but that's not a racial diss. that's saying "you only stand from two artists and doesn't mean you're apart of the culture. (for example, if someone was only based off Kanye and Ski Mask, I wouldn't say they're necessarily apart of the culture, they're just someone who consumes two types of rap artists, and that's primarily it.) my main reason that I don't really believe Scru is racist like that is that he says Harry Mack is arguably on the same level as Juice WRLD As a freestyler, admits Eminem is one of the best rappers, thinks Lil Dicky is arguably one of the best modern rappers out there atleast in pure rap ability at his best. Is a huge fan of glorb despite the fact that Glorb can 100% be white, and he says "I don't care if he's not gangster, you can tell he's from the culture, he knows hip hop like that" he's someone who's really apart of us" and he was right. Glorb is an alternate name for a real hip hop artist. I also think the fact, he's born in nebraska, tells me the dude's seen more than hundreds of white people, and he says most of the ones he knows are nice people" but that the ones people be cheering for sometimes are white evil. which he then plays a clip of a racist white dude saying the N Word repeatedly, (To clarify why he's racist he's a conservative weirdo)
@@oxiclean8536 my brother you gotta learn to be a bit more concise, but I read most of your comment and examples. It’s plain to see that this is a racist angle. You were saying that he’s not implying race but rather that it’s a Knox hill thing, yet his “coon tuber” insults on Stevie and Shaq would say otherwise. He says those things about them because they recognize Em as pretty much the greatest MC all time. If you watch his reactions on the videos regarding this beef you can see where him pretty much all but saying that about Stevie. Now that we have established that it’s a race thing, let’s change the ops. Let’s say Knox put out a racist diss track all about Scru big lips and whatever else. That would not be in the LEAST tolerated and Knox would probably be cancelled. Sooo … where’s the outrage for Knox? What cause Scru is black he can’t be racist? That’s that benzino mentality. Scru is ABSOLUTELY being racist and it’s people that try and justify it that keep racism alive dawg. Call it for what it is.
How is it racisr you yt folks are dense asf and are proving his point. Y’all love to participate and consume a form of art created by black people that stemmed for the abhorrent conditions we were forced to live in. Nothing he said was racist he didn’t say anything about him being white in a stereotypical way. He only used race to point out how y’all listen to rap music but turn your ear away from the very people who created this music.
When Em writes for Dre, do you think he writes the n word down for Dre? "Things just ain't the same for gangstas, times is changing, young ni***s is aging" Because Em wrote the Watcher
I've been watching y'all reactions channel and knew nothing about these beefs 😆 I like scru, you, knox, stevie, shaq....obviously I'm lost in the sauce 😆 🤣
17:25 there's literally Stevie Knight on the example and a quarter are asian. And there's two or three album/specials in this specific example. Like, I found this stretch and its a rare stretch from March 23 to May 3 2023.
In relation to the disses I'm confused as hell, but I have an anecdote... I grew up for the most part around other white people, until I became an adult, and was living in London, UK. I remember leaving a party about 4am with 2 friends who were gonna drop me off at my house and because they knew each other better I went to get into the back of the car, when one asked me to sit in the front and in my drunken, stoned, state asked why, and then immediately felt embarrassed when no-one answered. In my 20s I used h and crack recreationally for a few years, thinking I'd have it under control, but eventually the h bit me, and I had to ask a black friend to get for me because where I lived in London I only knew black dealers, and they wouldn't sell to me at first. When I eventually could get on my own, I remember the guy who helped me found out and was crying. So much shit.
Damn! Your babysitter story was rough to listen to! I'm sorry you went thru that as a baby 😢 Hope you're in a better place now 😊 I can't believe Shaq said that ish. It isn't even true!
YO you know Atmosphere? I NEVER hear them get mentioned. I mean Tom McDonald mentioned Rhymesayers but no one ever talks about Ant and Slug. Dope midwest rappers. You should react to something from them bro!
Appreciate the unbiased reaction, but this just the same old thing from scru. Just RACE RACE RACE CULTURE CULTURE RACE RACE.. I mean in essence he's dissing you as well cliff. Because you aint black you aren't hiphop and don't belong in the culture coz you didn't live the stereotypical black experience. SCRUzino with another RACE heavy track. When it comes to scru's music he sounds like a broken record. Gun bars, bragadocious bars, and race baiting is all he got. Plus scru himself has even said in videos he's NOT a shooter, but he knows "shooters"(most likely speaking of his "yes man" munfu). But for someone who's not a shooter why is 80% of his raps normally gun bars. He'll get on his soap box talking about how he's sick of seeing rappers getting shot and killed and turn around 30 minutes later and drop a song full of gun bars and talking about shooting people. Make it make sense. You want it to end, but perpetuate it in your music and rap about it like its cool. Scru is a walking contradiction - period!
❤ #knoxhill Definitely not subbing to him, Kso started to get me on side slowly with his #ren reaction's then I heard him bring up your name also last night also.. tutt tutt As for Scru... He did snap on this one. Still, not for me!
18:35 I said it before but I don't have a channel so no-one listens to me lol White people enjoy seeing black ppl approving white rappers because that used to be considered unbiased. Now it's spun into "eminem = views". But you're spot on, there's nothing wrong with it imo
If we're using this logic then scrus might as well have been pre-recorded, As he came with nothing new and nothing at least people that are slightly into it and paying attention didn't already know about or weren't already aware of. He's just recycling info that's already easily accessible or that has already been addressed
When I found Scru, it was because of ERB. They were super fun reactions, and I remember he had some problem with Dax at the time. Now he's stirring things up with Knox... and it just all feels fake. I've never liked Knox's reactions, as it seems like he pretends it's a first reaction, but he catches *every* line, but Scru seems to just love the drama here.
"This is os not about black and white, this os about wrong or right" But Scru brought that into it with the first diss. And with this one. It was a really good diss, but he's contradicted himself there.
Kind of tough to see the main reactors already taking Knox's Side and being biased. This was way better than scru first track and there were some good lines in here. Don't know if I'll say it's better than the track knox released but it's definitely up there.
I think he is saying that the missteps that KH makes show he wasn't raised nor does he really understand the culture in which he is trying to move in. There are plenty of white people who are invited to the cookout, but HK would bring potato salad with raisens in it.
Gotta respect Cliff for keeping it honest and actually reacting to the music and not being biased because he has a relationship with Knox Hill. My favorite reaction channel.
Scru got that wrong though, Knox didn't diss benzino for Eminem, he dissed him for the reactors for the take downs.
But didn’t he diss azz Izz for em?
eh he also did it when az izz dissed em too. scru kinda...sorta has a point here.,
@@ExarchGaming A good bit of reactors dissed Az Izz. Not just Knox.
@@OK-ce8cn it happens when u want to bait legends with trash
@@kingxdatruth0998 nah man the people who did that were corny asf
ending the diss with "it's not about black or white" after 90% of your track being the focus on exactly black vs white made me chuckle
I know what, I respect your opinion. You’re being as unbiased as you could. Which is what I consider the point of having a reaction channel.
Keyword counter
- black : 5
- white : 5
- culture : 7
- Eminem / NF : 7
- coloniser : 7
And they are ALL Relevant.
@@KhadijahJames-hi8wkthat's a lie
It's like Dax and janitor
@@KhadijahJames-hi8wk this is literally the same shit he said against upchurch and we all know how that ended lmao
@@Opachki69420 yeah i do know how it ended i dont know who upchurch is i listen to every song scru drops
You have to react to Shaq's reaction to this response. It was a bit of a diss reaction
Kudos for trying to be objective and giving balance and nuanced reactions. The stans be ruining everything because they are too emotional about their favorites
Literally, can’t give an opinion or say you liked something anymore without being called biased, a bot or a glazer
I'm saying...I've grown to hate all of this beef bullshit since people can't take any emotion out of their opinions. It's even making me regret talking about that shit in person. Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean you can't be objective and give credit.
@@jubabutlerFacts
"But you've taken the black and white angle the entire time" Yup that's SCRU. That's why even though I was watching his reactions back in 2018 when he recorded videos mid shift, i stopped once drama started following him and he leaned heavy into black vs white. He was falling off, got a resurgence of new fans once he started reacting to ERB, and I imagine he'll lose them again once he drops diss 4 of Knox and it's "you're white though" again.
If you really listen to what he's saying it's not about "black vs white" YES it is black and white people, BUT it's about the culture. He didn't have anything that was black vs white, he did call himself racist without saying it though. Now it can be flipped but honestly Knox should've waited and done something better bc that ezmill shit did not hit as hard as maybe it would've later or earlier
Call knox a racist*
@@rangerhallada406 as somebody that watched scru from back in the day. That's scru's mo, the only reason he doesn't get more explicit with it is because Upchurch ragdolled him last time he tried to, and I've never been an Upchurch fan. "They make the same song" yeah because you're a shitty person and it's the most obvious character flaw.
And STALKER went hard, imo. Answered the remix bar by using his own beat. Slipped the culture angle by not responding, scru even gave him the out by showing Knox saying he isn't fronting by being from the culture. Continued the narrative that scru is a phony the uses people by showing receipts for Tom and Ez, and reminding them of the 4 horseman days with Crypt and Gawne. Even adding the John 1:08 to address the Aubrey bars was brilliant.
scru really jumps on the race thing every single time
Only know Scru from his Eminem reactions, its tiring how quickly the race card gets pulled when they ain't got shit to say.
@@wait7547 he's used it on every single person, i used to like him when he was with crypt and all but he's bullshit he jumps from person to person using them for anything he can he's wack as hell
@@wait7547
"i only know scru from his eminem reactions"
yet we are supposed to act like race isnt an underlying thing with you people fr??? You are literally proving Scru correct in saying most of yall only like Eminem
So its ok for Tom Macdonald and Ben Shapiro to talk race but you get squeamish when any Black person rebuttals
this racism shit is really old on both sides and thats why racism will never die, people keep it going just like Scru
You said Em is the main reason why people react
Em is the reason I started watching reactions and breakdowns bro 😂
I appreciate the unbiased reactions! Whether I happen to agree or disagree with the opinion of a reactor, I'd always rather have a genuine reaction as opposed to one that seeks to pander to a particular audience/fan-base. In terms of what's being said in this beef, I think both Scru and Knox make some valid points. Both said things I agree with and things I didn't. Hopefully the conversation about this topic will help people consider things from opposite sides and lead to more informed opinions.
Imo the bar about Knox only dissing Benzino for a gold star from Em falls flat when the song Slime Shady is literally titled as a response to Lord Jamar who was a heavy Eminem hater at that time. Not trying to defend Knox, I like him AND Scru, just saying as a fan of both that if Knox dissing Benzino is him wanting attention, the same can be said about Scru responding to Lord Jamar
Also Benzino took down reactions, that issue with Cliff, and the paid interview debacle was the reason for the diss
The way Shaq handles the receipt part is how you suppose to do it. Big up Shaq.
Only thing I can say is, He ended by saying it ain't about black or white, but the whole song was based on race.
You could tell calling Knox a racist was on the tip of his tongue the whole time. Lol
I really don't think that's the case, I think it's coincidental that when he says Knox isn't apart of the culture is because of things concerning race.
Such as ignorance of racial discrimination leading to black brutality or deaths.
That's not something that being white entails it's something that being ignorant of the culture and the situation around you entails.
It just happens that Knox is white, and the thing he's ignorant of is black culture
he's also ignorant of Gaza and Israel whole situation as he mentioned it in his track as a punchline for seemingly no reason.
I also think when he says "You don't know the pain" etc etc, lines that reference race.
he's not saying White People don't experience the pain black people do.
he's saying that Knox as an individual has no right to rap about black struggles or racial discrimination or to comment on it, it feels very similar to the episode of south park
when Stan's dad says the N Word
and then Stan tries to talk to Token to explain to token that he's sorry on his dad's behalf
which constantly blows up in his face until he finally just says "It's not that I don't understand" "it's that I can't understand" "Token I can't understand why it's so important!" and then Token forgave Stan.
I think it's the same situation
Instead of Knox saying "I can't understand that situation" he said "I didn't understand" which in some manner implies he understands now, which is almost most likely not the case.
There's alot more bars that seem race implied like
"Without eminem and without NF who are you" but that's not a racial diss. that's saying
"you only stand from two artists and doesn't mean you're apart of the culture.
(for example, if someone was only based off Kanye and Ski Mask, I wouldn't say they're necessarily apart of the culture, they're just someone who consumes two types of rap artists, and that's primarily it.)
my main reason that I don't really believe Scru is racist like that
is that he says Harry Mack is arguably on the same level as Juice WRLD As a freestyler, admits Eminem is one of the best rappers, thinks Lil Dicky is arguably one of the best modern rappers out there atleast in pure rap ability at his best. Is a huge fan of glorb despite the fact that Glorb can 100% be white, and he says "I don't care if he's not gangster, you can tell he's from the culture, he knows hip hop like that" he's someone who's really apart of us"
and he was right.
Glorb is an alternate name for a real hip hop artist.
I also think the fact, he's born in nebraska, tells me the dude's seen more than hundreds of white people, and he says most of the ones he knows are nice people" but that the ones people be cheering for sometimes are white evil. which he then plays a clip of a racist white dude saying the N Word repeatedly, (To clarify why he's racist he's a conservative weirdo)
People are literally missing Scu Face's angles and most importantly the ON SCREEN receipts.
Knox, on a screen shot, says "I AM KNOXHILL. I am not a product of hip hop... Mind you, Knox is also commenting on black culture while being insensitive to the plight (also brought up when he mentioned Scru's moms) of black people. Scru is pointing out how this is hypocritical.
Wrong and Right.
Getchya feelings and biases out of it.
I didn't even get into the rebuttal of Knox calling Scru a cuck but is in drag 🤔...
All in all, Scru put together a solid diss with even more re solid rebuttals.
Except the part, it’s not. He is clearly saying that it’s about being an appropriator/colonizer. Scru has never had a problem with white people in hip hop as long as they actually love and participate in the culture not just use it.
Scru was showing how Knox moved after he got called out in the past. That's how beef works....
Respect ✊ cliff
DK Rap Artist just smoked Scru, too! Would love to see him on y'alls' podcast.
Em angle is weak I agree, from anyone...I only know of Knox AND Scru because of their Em reactions that I got to from first watching Shaq and Stevie.
props to you cliff for being unbiased 👏
No lie, crazy fair and unbiased considering the relationships and shots sent his way. Respect.
I swear Cliff the only dude I've ever seen with the "automatically unsubscribe to everyone you intentionally subscribe to" setting turned on 🤣
Wow somebody who gives and unbiased reaction. We need more of this.
Broooooo, you NEED to check DK's Scru diss. Best one yet from another person with a history with Scru
Love you Cliff. Your takes are great
That line "Its not black verse white but right verse wrong." Is a line from Adam Tom and Dax Black and White.
I was so mad at Kso for that shit. He's always so genuine in his appreciation for guys like Em and H Mack... For him to act like Knox and you are "outsiders"... that was some fucked up shit.
I think Scru faked how much he liked Eminem to get his numbers up
@@damianbrowne847 I think he just rides trends, we prolly never saw his actual likes and dislike much
cliff reaction was gold lol he was like damn scru
As a black man I must say that racism is unacceptable regardless of what ethnic group you belong to...... with that being said Scru was cooking 🍳 🔥
Agreed 💯
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As a Black man, you should know that Black people cannot be racist. Please educate yourself on the definition of racism.. You’re providing false harbor for real racists.
That said, ScruFace tore that UP.
Are you out to lunch? Knox isn't black is his only bar.
@@Slothptimal I don't think you know what a bar is please be quiet 🤫
UA-cam beef?! Man they bout to make me go vegan…
Hahahah well played.
Bars!
Please continue your unbiased opinion Cliff.
we need an eminem album soon
The diss is good. Regardless of the themes. This was solid.
nope.
@@CarnageUndone yep
This track was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥, no pre recorded bs
Knowing the situation and your position here bro👏. Most unbiased reaction and i really appreciate your opinion. I agree with you 100. You are goated sir. Scru needs to take the time to watch this. You're a real one
You and Ray- Vibe Reactions are the "Reactor Gods" to me. Both always catch everything, even the way they breath.❤❤🎉🎉🎉lllllll
Even youtubers 😂😂Katt Williams really started the purge 🤣🤣🤣
I respect this reaction, scru fan here but we got to keep the reactions unbiased. You did great cliff
You gonna have a busy day brother lol 😆
If anything, he tried to prove his own point by going against his own point. As someone who is mixed myself and grew up basically only with the black side of the family, it is very rough when you hear someone attack someone for race regardless of what race they are. He himself says and then contradicts his own colonizer line by saying that he doesn't have to go that deep but he still mentions it and then still ends off by calling him a colonizer like five times. Scru had lost it lol. And then he goes on to say it's not about black and white while still calling out racial stuff that didn't actually happen. It's ridiculous.
Funny how Knox still responded to this Diss in an hour. its about to get heated, Feel like knox is def gonna come out on top tho
lol it was prerecorded and ready to go.
It was prerecorded Einstein he didn’t respond “within the hour”. lol he didn’t respond to anything Scru said. Y’all really think Knox is all that but he’s wack as hell.
He better start the comeback because scru is up 2-0
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@@glibglob8755 What's it matter that the response is prerecorded? It's still a response within the hour
I'm here for the breakdown, brother. Thank you for this. 🙏
Props for actually reacting without picking a side, now that's refreshing. Props
Much better diss than his last. The angle though with all the racial stuff is always weird to me. But hey, thats what scru is known for ig.
You honestly think this was better than the first? If anything it was more direct than the first. If he would have been this direct with the first it probably would have been a big W. But I think Knox up 2 now.
The race angle shows just how weak this diss is
@@andrewtims9524 yea bro. I like scru but this ain’t it.
because there isnt really other angle he can go through, color color color, culture culture culture, maybe some gun bars that's it for him.
He literally said at the end of the track that it’s not about black and white.
good on you! i respect how you can listen for it for the music and not be biased 🔥🔥🔥
Scru was sleeping in the first but he brought his A game on this one. His flow and cadence was 🔥🔥🔥
I really like how you have been doing the initial reactions first 👍 you know the real ones stick around for the whole thing 😅 I am sorry I didn’t catch the live’s just usually to busy plus they’re just not my type of thing
I do rewatch tho usually 👍’s up from me
Cliff, I don't think Scru is saying he's not a part of the culture because he's white (if he is I disagree with that), it's because there are people who say things like "I don't like rap, but I like Em" etc....these peoples almost always have some sort of underlying world view that is anti black. Or, that he expresses values that don't align with hip hop history or culture.
People forget this artform comes from opression. I don't even truly know if Knox is a vulture, but I'm just voicing someone is a volture based on how they treat the community and their world view (ex: Drake is more vulture like than J Cole, but they're both mixed).
Knox grew up in a black neighborhood, and grew with hip hop so he ain't no vulture, but his experiences can be different to black people coz of society but if only black people who who know discrimination and black pain can rap, does rap end when black people stop suffering?
@WeebtasticPrime No ofcourse not, as long as you are respectful to the history and understand it is what matters. Again, I have no idea if Knox is educated on these topics or comes from those backgrounds, I was speaking on general terms.
@gabrielbobowski7767 Yeah, I know, but discrediting the stuff they have done to the culture because they are "white" is kind of an odd hypocritical way to treat stuff, He points out how Knox using the dead black person as a bar is wrong but proceeds to make a similar bar against JFK?
I'm not American, but wasn't he a very strong advocate of civil rights for minorities?
@@WeebtasticPrimeno it’s almost impossible for black to ever not have this angle. 70% of the country is white and 12% is black. Its hard to plead racism case when most of the country don’t even believe it exist. It’s an uphill climb everytime you take this angle true or not.
His beef with Upchurch WAS all about pigment! As is this one! EVERY reactor I have watched has said the SAME thing. Everyone's ears cannot be broken!!!
They both going hard but it's time for original tracks
Bro just keep being unbiased your channel will be huge
Hey Cliff at 7:07 the line “I’m about to give em Beats like it’s heart in his hand” is that a reference to you considering the two bars previous?
Got to love how scru uses the its not about black vs white its wrong vs right and he is using black vs white through the whole track and using that bar which was used by dax in the verse he did on black and white with tom macdonald and adam calhoun.
I d on't think you're catching what scru is saying, this is less about knox being white, rahter than scru's view of knox being anti-black.
Knox already responded
With stalker
He went off on that one
Pre recorded.. second time he did it.. no rebuttals just dropping after.. kinda lame.. still a good track but not addressing anything
@@Im__jujustill cooking scruzino regardless.
@@Im__jujuFax ........at least you have your own mind to think for yourself
He responded but he shouldn't have. At least not as fast, more thought next time
Bro this is fire idk whose side to be on. I’m on your side Cliff for the best reactor ever now 😂!
"Took another persons diss and took it as a personal attack" first benzino did diss Knox but even then this whole thing is because Knight talked about EZ and Scru took it as a personal attack and talked smack about Stevie. Basically saying him and EZ are so close that to attck one is to attack both lol. Which we now know is farthest thing from true. Still thos diss is good, not win battle good but still respectable. The NF comparison to KH is really good
Honestly, Scru is using a lot of not understanding subtext is language. The quote from Knox about not being a product of hip hop, he's very obviously saying that hip hop is part of who he is on a deeper level. It's just part of his nature. I identify with that. That's part of the culture that not a lot of people acknowledge. The feeling like you have to prove yourself and your love for hip hop before you can be taken seriously. I'm a 6'3 bearded white boy fully sleeved. But look at me crazy when I start talking about some of the Emcees I think are underrated and why.
There’s no question scru can rap his ass off! I don’t necessarily agree with what he says but it sounds crazy nice
I like that you clarified the experience with officers was just what you have seen. I’m from the north west suburbs of Chicago and it was primarily white and also a very small town so I have no experience from my younger age. I was in the military for 20 years and never saw anything like that in the military and none of us would have stood for it. We gave everyone equal shit! Stationed in Kansas I never saw police act wrong and we had large crews with all races constantly. So I will never argue it doesn’t happen but I haven’t seen and would not be quite if it did. I do know the south side is different so I’m sure in Chicago it’s crazy. You guys have shootings and stuff daily.
I love knox. That being said, I think scru is up on this one so far and I didn't even know who he was until like 12 days ago
Disagree he definitely down both rounds
Bro you sold me with your realness, following.
Damn... wait until Em drops his album and see how many channels cover it... come on... Wonder if Scru will too.. 🙃
Hip Hop is a sport Scru says, I agree I appreciate the back and forth. From reactions it sounds like Scru moves shady BUT good response
You should also react to the nolifeshaq reaction to this. He lowkey exposes some shit, and clarifies a few things.
I saw his reaction. He did clarify some stuff when the clip about him came up but he didn't expose anything. All he said was he claimed to reach out to screw to offer some kind of help but that was never proven
True, I thought maybe shaq just said some wild stuff or was clipped out of context, but he clarified that he actually still believes what he said and doubled down.
It's wild how many people are overlooking how factual this diss record is
Yeah… I didn’t even finish that song. It’s clearly a racist angle and honestly I think it should be called out for what it is. Just cause he’s black doesn’t mean he should get away with talking racist ish. I was hyped for the beef, but that was wack
Facts I lost all respect for scru on that. I watch a lot of his stuff.
Ya mfs don’t even know the definition of racism. Talking about race doesn’t make you racist. He never said one thing that was racist.
I copied this from one of my other replies but this is my opinion on that take.
I really don't think that's the case, I think it's coincidental that when he says Knox isn't apart of the culture is because of things concerning race.
Such as ignorance of racial discrimination leading to black brutality or deaths.
That's not something that being white entails it's something that being ignorant of the culture and the situation around you entails.
It just happens that Knox is white, and the thing he's ignorant of is black culture
he's also ignorant of Gaza and Israel whole situation as he mentioned it in his track as a punchline for seemingly no reason.
I also think when he says "You don't know the pain" etc etc, lines that reference race.
he's not saying White People don't experience the pain black people do.
he's saying that Knox as an individual has no right to rap about black struggles or racial discrimination or to comment on it, it feels very similar to the episode of south park
when Stan's dad says the N Word
and then Stan tries to talk to Token to explain to token that he's sorry on his dad's behalf
which constantly blows up in his face until he finally just says "It's not that I don't understand" "it's that I can't understand" "Token I can't understand why it's so important!" and then Token forgave Stan.
I think it's the same situation
Instead of Knox saying "I can't understand that situation" he said "I didn't understand" which in some manner implies he understands now, which is almost most likely not the case.
There's alot more bars that seem race implied like
"Without eminem and without NF who are you" but that's not a racial diss. that's saying
"you only stand from two artists and doesn't mean you're apart of the culture.
(for example, if someone was only based off Kanye and Ski Mask, I wouldn't say they're necessarily apart of the culture, they're just someone who consumes two types of rap artists, and that's primarily it.)
my main reason that I don't really believe Scru is racist like that
is that he says Harry Mack is arguably on the same level as Juice WRLD As a freestyler, admits Eminem is one of the best rappers, thinks Lil Dicky is arguably one of the best modern rappers out there atleast in pure rap ability at his best. Is a huge fan of glorb despite the fact that Glorb can 100% be white, and he says "I don't care if he's not gangster, you can tell he's from the culture, he knows hip hop like that" he's someone who's really apart of us"
and he was right.
Glorb is an alternate name for a real hip hop artist.
I also think the fact, he's born in nebraska, tells me the dude's seen more than hundreds of white people, and he says most of the ones he knows are nice people" but that the ones people be cheering for sometimes are white evil. which he then plays a clip of a racist white dude saying the N Word repeatedly, (To clarify why he's racist he's a conservative weirdo)
@@oxiclean8536 my brother you gotta learn to be a bit more concise, but I read most of your comment and examples. It’s plain to see that this is a racist angle. You were saying that he’s not implying race but rather that it’s a Knox hill thing, yet his “coon tuber” insults on Stevie and Shaq would say otherwise. He says those things about them because they recognize Em as pretty much the greatest MC all time. If you watch his reactions on the videos regarding this beef you can see where him pretty much all but saying that about Stevie. Now that we have established that it’s a race thing, let’s change the ops. Let’s say Knox put out a racist diss track all about Scru big lips and whatever else. That would not be in the LEAST tolerated and Knox would probably be cancelled. Sooo … where’s the outrage for Knox? What cause Scru is black he can’t be racist? That’s that benzino mentality. Scru is ABSOLUTELY being racist and it’s people that try and justify it that keep racism alive dawg. Call it for what it is.
How is it racisr you yt folks are dense asf and are proving his point. Y’all love to participate and consume a form of art created by black people that stemmed for the abhorrent conditions we were forced to live in. Nothing he said was racist he didn’t say anything about him being white in a stereotypical way. He only used race to point out how y’all listen to rap music but turn your ear away from the very people who created this music.
When Em writes for Dre, do you think he writes the n word down for Dre? "Things just ain't the same for gangstas, times is changing, young ni***s is aging" Because Em wrote the Watcher
I'm ngl I've always fucked with Scru 🔥 and he got busy on this beat fr. Shoutout to you Cliff for staying unbiased. 🤘🏽
I've been watching y'all reactions channel and knew nothing about these beefs 😆 I like scru, you, knox, stevie, shaq....obviously I'm lost in the sauce 😆 🤣
Knox should of replied with a breakdown diss and picked this apart 😂
He doesn’t want to bring more focus to any of what Scru said. It all makes Knox look super bad.
17:25 there's literally Stevie Knight on the example and a quarter are asian. And there's two or three album/specials in this specific example. Like, I found this stretch and its a rare stretch from March 23 to May 3 2023.
I feel you cliff. I was born in Boston in the projects. I was like the only white kid. So I know how it is
Cliff how did you get pulled up between this 😂
as always the best reactor in UA-cam ❤️❤️
My boi dont want to fight Stevie legit, prolly catch a faide irl and snitch, cops be having to double cuff Stevie big ass for killing Scru.
In relation to the disses I'm confused as hell, but I have an anecdote...
I grew up for the most part around other white people, until I became an adult, and was living in London, UK.
I remember leaving a party about 4am with 2 friends who were gonna drop me off at my house and because they knew each other better I went to get into the back of the car, when one asked me to sit in the front and in my drunken, stoned, state asked why, and then immediately felt embarrassed when no-one answered.
In my 20s I used h and crack recreationally for a few years, thinking I'd have it under control, but eventually the h bit me, and I had to ask a black friend to get for me because where I lived in London I only knew black dealers, and they wouldn't sell to me at first. When I eventually could get on my own, I remember the guy who helped me found out and was crying. So much shit.
Damn! Your babysitter story was rough to listen to! I'm sorry you went thru that as a baby 😢 Hope you're in a better place now 😊 I can't believe Shaq said that ish. It isn't even true!
YO you know Atmosphere? I NEVER hear them get mentioned. I mean Tom McDonald mentioned Rhymesayers but no one ever talks about Ant and Slug. Dope midwest rappers. You should react to something from them bro!
This Scru is lethal! Now we got a match!
This Knox take that song down with the AA line? That’s wild!
Appreciate the unbiased reaction, but this just the same old thing from scru. Just RACE RACE RACE CULTURE CULTURE RACE RACE.. I mean in essence he's dissing you as well cliff. Because you aint black you aren't hiphop and don't belong in the culture coz you didn't live the stereotypical black experience. SCRUzino with another RACE heavy track. When it comes to scru's music he sounds like a broken record. Gun bars, bragadocious bars, and race baiting is all he got. Plus scru himself has even said in videos he's NOT a shooter, but he knows "shooters"(most likely speaking of his "yes man" munfu). But for someone who's not a shooter why is 80% of his raps normally gun bars. He'll get on his soap box talking about how he's sick of seeing rappers getting shot and killed and turn around 30 minutes later and drop a song full of gun bars and talking about shooting people. Make it make sense. You want it to end, but perpetuate it in your music and rap about it like its cool. Scru is a walking contradiction - period!
I already heard the knox response. Knox had round 1 for sure. Round 2 is definitely Scru. Its 1 for 1.
That boy scru got knox up out of here with that hiphop Diaspora bar... Like Kendrick said, Fubu has to be in your collection to understand! 💯
Facts I’m in Chicago but I’m right on the edge of Englewood and little village and those areas be crazy
And here I was thinking this was just some friendly competition 🤣🤣. I gotta find that comment so I can delete that foolishness lmao
Yeah, you were around bc the Stevie and EZ Mil issue came from the song "The Realest" feat. Eminem. Keep being real Cliff, the real rises to the top
i cant wait for people to start checking out DK's scru diss
3:46 didn't he react to Lil Wayne, The game, Gucci, Breezy, Kendrick etc?
❤ #knoxhill
Definitely not subbing to him, Kso started to get me on side slowly with his #ren reaction's then I heard him bring up your name also last night also.. tutt tutt
As for Scru... He did snap on this one. Still, not for me!
18:35 I said it before but I don't have a channel so no-one listens to me lol White people enjoy seeing black ppl approving white rappers because that used to be considered unbiased. Now it's spun into "eminem = views". But you're spot on, there's nothing wrong with it imo
Knox responded right after
Pre recorded, he didn't reply to anything scru mentioned
@@abcamacho6187 ye it’s 1-1
@@abcamacho6187exactly.
If we're using this logic then scrus might as well have been pre-recorded, As he came with nothing new and nothing at least people that are slightly into it and paying attention didn't already know about or weren't already aware of. He's just recycling info that's already easily accessible or that has already been addressed
@@abcamacho6187You clearly didn't listen Knox gave lots of rebuttals from scrus track. Including the Tom interview. Lol.
The bar that knox said in which he now deleted it was "Jog with me, youll be the next Ahmaud Arbery"
well damn homie
And Knox reaponded to this one ALREADY?!?! He is crazy!
Did he? Damn. I need to go check it out after this
When I found Scru, it was because of ERB. They were super fun reactions, and I remember he had some problem with Dax at the time. Now he's stirring things up with Knox... and it just all feels fake. I've never liked Knox's reactions, as it seems like he pretends it's a first reaction, but he catches *every* line, but Scru seems to just love the drama here.
16:55 id love to hear you react to anything from DizzyEight!
"This is os not about black and white, this os about wrong or right"
But Scru brought that into it with the first diss. And with this one. It was a really good diss, but he's contradicted himself there.
Kind of tough to see the main reactors already taking Knox's Side and being biased. This was way better than scru first track and there were some good lines in here. Don't know if I'll say it's better than the track knox released but it's definitely up there.
I think he is saying that the missteps that KH makes show he wasn't raised nor does he really understand the culture in which he is trying to move in. There are plenty of white people who are invited to the cookout, but HK would bring potato salad with raisens in it.
I doubt it tbh especially when lil Wayne said beat the pussy up like emitt which is Terrible and regretted saying
And Cliff shouldn’t worry about what his subs want if you’re already a big shot.
Non biased part hey he killed that shit. Knox was fire as well. Waiting for u Knox yea yea. Peace
I will say Scru has improved immensely.
He don't need your approval colonizer
Im not the biggest scru fan, but he went absolutely bananas