I'm convinced the monopoly stream was prerecorded. It would make a lot of sense considering the timeline of how he was feeling and how busy everyone's schedules have been.
Thanks for the clip yukira-sama I've been seeing lots of hate to vespy about the collabing thing. Idk how to word this but collabing doesnt need to be a requirement. Someone or more missing in a collab is very normal esp in jp side (both stars and live) (an example for that is stars 1st gartic phone and temma cant make it, live jp gen 1 1st collab happening after many years or also 1 member in uproar cant make it in group collab) The amount of collabs in tempus was actually a lot which is surprising and ofc fun, so let vespy recharge since a collab must be a fun thing to do. (Lmao to son dancing)
You're welcome Yeah I agree, the priority of collaboration should be and always be FUN, so yeah just take it easy~ ( Well, Roberu is the most extrovert person i've ever known XD )
I think the hate was because he missed the anniversary events, which should be something big and important for the group. But considering the gravity of the problem that Grampire is facing, plus the explanation he has given, the hate is too much
@@mudcchi5571 people just lack empathy, even management/corpo was more empathetic towards his situation and let him deal with his mental health problems and pardoned his absence (assumptively, since its all behind the scenes). Vesper doesn't share the specifics but the fact that he openly admitted therapy, medication, and overall seclusion, its easy to piece together that he had dealt with a lot...
Maybe when he returns to collabs he should ease into 1 on 1 collab streams instead of jumping into massive 8 person ones. I'm desperate for a crumb of Vesperonii since their last 1v1 was the psychology stream
hmm... I see, you have a good memory XD well, whatever the truth is, what we need to do now is to support Vesper, i'm sure everything will return to normal after some time
@Yukira ch. its just shades of it. Difference is he lacks the influence of her. But being cut off from collabs would check out. Him saying he's just anxious about it would be decent cover. We will see how much longer it continues.
He was already collabing after his 2 week break from fighting with staff. So this idea makes no sense. If no collab was punishment, he would have not collabed with anyone when he first returned.
I don't want to call you out too hard here but I think this kind of speculation is harmful and I wish folks wouldn't do this. We need to take vesper at his word and trust that he's doing what's best for himself and we need to support him in that. Accusing him of lying about it, which, let's be honest, is what you're doing here, is the opposite of supporting him.
I don't think being an Indi Vtuber will bring any significant changes to Vesper I mean, in my eyes, Vesper is one of those weird introverts, who get super exhausted even from little social interaction but loves to socialize and wants to play games together, A LOT XD
@@yukirach.2199 we have to remember that the poor dude went over a month without his anxiety meds from a combination of family travel and then Japan. Honestly, would people prefer he went on complete health hiatus instead?
@@starsgears9200 dude straight up went cold turkey, which is literally The Worst, especially if you've been relying on meds for a while. Dosages get higher as the longer time goes on, so if you've taken meds longer, when you go cold turkey, the effects are truly Awful.
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And I thought I was introverted LOL
same, maybe i'm an Extrovert after all XD
I'm convinced the monopoly stream was prerecorded. It would make a lot of sense considering the timeline of how he was feeling and how busy everyone's schedules have been.
or it may have been a last spurt, sometimes you're at your best when you're on your last legs before your worst...
A candle always flickers the brightest before going out.
The monopoly collab was still early on during his trip to Japan. Before everything went to shit.
Thanks for the clip yukira-sama
I've been seeing lots of hate to vespy about the collabing thing. Idk how to word this but collabing doesnt need to be a requirement. Someone or more missing in a collab is very normal esp in jp side (both stars and live) (an example for that is stars 1st gartic phone and temma cant make it, live jp gen 1 1st collab happening after many years or also 1 member in uproar cant make it in group collab)
The amount of collabs in tempus was actually a lot which is surprising and ofc fun, so let vespy recharge since a collab must be a fun thing to do.
(Lmao to son dancing)
You're welcome
Yeah I agree, the priority of collaboration should be and always be FUN, so yeah just take it easy~
( Well, Roberu is the most extrovert person i've ever known XD )
I think the hate was because he missed the anniversary events, which should be something big and important for the group. But considering the gravity of the problem that Grampire is facing, plus the explanation he has given, the hate is too much
@@mudcchi5571 people just lack empathy, even management/corpo was more empathetic towards his situation and let him deal with his mental health problems and pardoned his absence (assumptively, since its all behind the scenes). Vesper doesn't share the specifics but the fact that he openly admitted therapy, medication, and overall seclusion, its easy to piece together that he had dealt with a lot...
Aqua: I kneel
Mood, before I changed jobs I don't think I spoke to anyone for weeks at a time (discounting family dropping by lol)
Family will break in, if you don't let them in
Vesper is like me, fr fr.
Thats crazy
Maybe when he returns to collabs he should ease into 1 on 1 collab streams instead of jumping into massive 8 person ones. I'm desperate for a crumb of Vesperonii since their last 1v1 was the psychology stream
You really wanna kill the man huh
👀👀👀👀
i can stare back at you
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@@yukirach.2199 good.. join the cult of staring 👀
@@ZeroTwo-- no, not another cult
i'll close my eyes (ノω
@@yukirach.2199 fair enough.. have a good weekend, Yukira-senpai. 👀
@@yukirach.2199 👀 one of us one of us
I honestly think that he is punishment roomed after his fights with staff.. we saw the same thing happen to coco.
hmm... I see, you have a good memory XD
well, whatever the truth is, what we need to do now is to support Vesper, i'm sure everything will return to normal after some time
@Yukira ch. its just shades of it. Difference is he lacks the influence of her. But being cut off from collabs would check out. Him saying he's just anxious about it would be decent cover. We will see how much longer it continues.
He was already collabing after his 2 week break from fighting with staff. So this idea makes no sense. If no collab was punishment, he would have not collabed with anyone when he first returned.
@P Pham and then the break afterwards?
I don't want to call you out too hard here but I think this kind of speculation is harmful and I wish folks wouldn't do this. We need to take vesper at his word and trust that he's doing what's best for himself and we need to support him in that. Accusing him of lying about it, which, let's be honest, is what you're doing here, is the opposite of supporting him.
He would do better as an indi streamer.
I don't think being an Indi Vtuber will bring any significant changes to Vesper
I mean, in my eyes, Vesper is one of those weird introverts, who get super exhausted even from little social interaction but loves to socialize and wants to play games together, A LOT XD
@@yukirach.2199 we have to remember that the poor dude went over a month without his anxiety meds from a combination of family travel and then Japan. Honestly, would people prefer he went on complete health hiatus instead?
@@starsgears9200 dude straight up went cold turkey, which is literally The Worst, especially if you've been relying on meds for a while. Dosages get higher as the longer time goes on, so if you've taken meds longer, when you go cold turkey, the effects are truly Awful.