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This Will NEVER Happen Again! || The Most DOPED Evolution Of ALL TIME
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2022
- Bjarne Riis as he is known to his fans Mr 60% Bjarne Rijs is one of the most controversial cyclists in history. He used doping epic methods to win 1996 Tour de France and been the crush of the people with a legendary performance in 1993 Tour de France in Finestre. This is the story of the super climber Bjarne Riis Early Days. Want to know what happened? We'll know more cycling tops, from road cycling news, cycling stories, British cycling, road cycling and More road cycling transfer news today on Cycling StorieS #Cycling, #Sports, #Doping
The Legendary BJARNE RIIS!
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@Takeshi Matimoto in a doped generation
Notice that not a single one of his competitors said anything before and after. They were just as doped as he was.
With Riis, Denmark would win Eurovision against Ukraine
Lol
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Nice try but i highly doubt that 😂
Make him perform after an individual time trial. The fraun makes the difference
Only because Armstrong is American and cannot participate for the US
Just to put his levels of doping into perspective. His record of the hautacam climb was done doing 6,88 watts per kg - armstrong ONLY did 6,4 in 2000, while jonas vingegaaard dropped pogacar and winning doing 6,32 watts - with a much more advanced bike & new recovery technology, ketones for nutrition etc. Not saying they ride clean right now, but damn, riis had more epo than blood in him
I remember watching this as a kid. Riis was pushing huge gears all the way up Hautacam whilst out of the saddle. His blood was as thick as treacle. When him and Ugromov were ripping up the mountains in the mid 90s in their mid 30s and balding with foam frothing out of their mouths the UCI must have known the magic potions were being administered
Armstrong did 6,4 in horribly cold and rainy conditions while Riis did 6.88 in perfectly warm and sunny conditions. Maybe the gap wouldn't have been that big if the conditions would've been comparable.
@@YlL-ji2sl Very varm conditions are not great for performances. while it is hard to compare conditions to one another and say which was better or worse. it is far from the best conditions when cycling in the very warm French summers. Colder air, but not too cold yields much better performance.
@@ainsley4204 guy thinks you can run or cycle better in 30+ degrees than in 15? lmao
Just stopping by after Pogacar's 6.98 W/kg for 40 minutes at Plateau de Beille...
In interview for Danish television at that time, Riis many times attributed his miraculous results to daily treatment as acupunture and would put up a very insulted face if asked about doping. For many years his go-to defense would be: 'I've never tested positive!' :-)
Sounds familiar!!!
He only did that 'I've never tested positive!' once, though.... because he clearly couldn't get away that response. It was doing the tour of 98 with the Festina scandal going on and everyone was suddenly under suspicion.
He should have built a phone hyperbaric chamber... That was an excuse other riders employed.
"Riis many times attributed his miraculous results to daily treatment as acupunture"
Well, at least he was honest about the needles.
Riis is the perfect example, why "just let them all dope legally" would never work. Some people respond much better to it and can get away with more. Like Riis. He went from an unremarkable water carrier to a grand tour winner. He was basically on space shuttle fuel, obliterating the air beneath his feet, as he produced more watts than a nuclear plant. The blood crumbling through his veins!
Yes so, if doping was legal to all of them? Would some of them dope so much, that they would be in serious health dificulties, so now I understand why doping is illegal.
Although I agree with most of what you say don't forget many of those gregarios could be so much more. They mostly end up in the end because they were carrying that's all.
And yet his wins are still there along with Jan and sadly Marco who weren't given the support after but then Lance made a scapegoat for it all. 😢.
I often wonder about Greg after his accident.
The only one I'm pretty sure didn't dope was Miguel. He was unatural.
I did notice recently that there were suddenly a lot of asthmatic riders. Froome I think was one.
@@Teaman1974 Asthmatic riders, low-T body builders and diabetic weight lifters ....... funny, how chronicle diseases can turn into super powers, apparently.
With Indurain it is tough to know, for the testing was still sketchy as hell and it was when EPO was on the rise and utterly undetectable. He also had ties to a dubious doctor. He did have an insane lung capacity, though.
@@MightyJabroni the barrel lungs yeah. I modelled my own style of riding on him. Unfortunately I got really ill really quickly so cycling was ruled out completely for over 16 years of my life. Wonder if my koms will be taken off me because of all the transfusions I've had lol
he looked like the other riders' dad. lol.
Interesting enough, the Tour De France have never been so critical about the french riders who were just as doped.
@@beaneater Docteur Mabuse is the french dope success story : 5 decades. Raymond Poulidor > Cyrille Guimard > Laurent Fignon. Don't pretend they ever went under fire in France. Rijs improved when he became a friend of... Laurent Fignon ! Rijs was attacked as a team director, Gianetti is (UAE financial manager) : was Marc Madiot ever ? No way, Madiot & Guimard got promoted.
Well, it's well known that ASO Inc. is a very powerful mob, they dictate what can be asked and answered on french national TV during the TDF and after. Sometimes they drop a bone, and Riis was an easy target as he admitted himself. They never questioned how Jalabert (former sprinter) could suddenly outperform colombian climbers. But this is not only about the frenchies, all business partners were well treated! During the Armstrong era, french TV star Gerard Holtz never ever seemed to have a fraction of a doubt about the surreal performances of the Boss. Futhermore, former FR. president Sarkozy (himself being one of the most honnest men on Earth :-) ) told us Lance was the GOAT. But this is only about the sport fantasies, think about the level of corruption in FR political and business "elite" members and you have the whole picture.
and Indurain got off scott free.
Very true. The narrator is childishly naiive if he doesn't think that everyone Riis, Ulrich, Pantano and so on competed with were just as doped up.
Richard Virenque always innocent
hey man, he just got more aerodynamic over the years.
Bjarne Bald Eagle Riis
The amount of times this man mentions Riss' baldness is hilarious...mainly because its true
lol was thinking the same thing ha ha ha
4:15 can we chat about the rider clipped by the motor bike who then slowly dies on the asphalt while the cops rescue his bike from the road? That crash was insane!
It was all down to nutrition and Herbalife for Riis ! ....yeah right. Actually doping goes right back to the early days of the tour,and other important races. Each decade bought new drugs and ways to enhance the performance artificially. Most were doing it in the 90's,some better than others but Armstrong took it to a new level.
I raced in the mid 70's. One of my team mates went from average to a winner on a national level. Later, I learned he connected with a belgian individual during the winter who had the necessary protocols. Sadly, PED have been and will be forever prevalent in the sport.
Yea… its seems to always be a race between the advancement in tech between usage of doping and tracking doping. Cycling is probably the sport in the world where you suffer the most and the body is under the most amount of stress on elite level, so I assume that’s the area where there’s most doping, but at the same time, I do think there’s far more doping than we realize also in the case of like football, but I don’t think it’s as prevalent as in cycling.
It’s really a shame.. at one point in time, I was really getting into cycling, but it’s just obvious and become a race between “who got the best dope”, and the magic falls apart. I do really like the intensity, the composition (roles) in a team, the drama, etc. .. maybe I should get into Pro cycling manager ingested 😅
Think it's wrong to single out Riis as the "doper" per exellence. Everyone was doped, Indurain, Virenque, Bersin, all of them.
Riis won the Tour on a level playing field with the other dopers, he worked hard and that still deserves respect.
doped sport is not a level playing field. Its a sham defrauding the fans
They're all on the "Juice" at that level. And that means they are all on a level playing field.......(Whoever wins, deserves to win)
And this is only the first time of the story. The evo of this guy in 1995 was insane, also he met Ferrari in Gewiss 1994. A legend of doping.
He is Frankenstein's monster of cycling. A true medicine man.
A few things that I think should have been mentioned:
1: Bjarne raced during a time, when 99 % of the peloton were doping because even if you got caught, the punishments were ridiculously low (usually only one month´s suspension in the worst cases and in lighter cases only a time penalty). Anyone who didn´t dope, had little to no chance of making it in the sport during the years he was active and that´s the way it had been for almost as long as pro cycling has existed. The great 5 time tour winner Jaques Anquetil never hid that he doped like crazy all through his career, was against doping tests altogether and said that it would be inhumane to force riders to ride the tour without doping, when the first tests were introduced in the late 60´s. Oh, but we´re not supposed to mention that in regards to the tour, since he´s French! Other great stars of the time before Bjarne´s career even began like another French rider and tour winner in Bernard Thevenet suffered severe health problems thanks to their abuse, but that was seen as "Just the way things were" and it sadly continued to be accepted for way too long. If you´re gonna call any riders "Dopeds", then it should be every single pro cycling rider, who raced prior to the 2010´s.
2: He was a very highly rated domestique (by Fignon especially) for a long time, before he got the chance to ride for himself. When he started out as a pro in the mid 80´s it wasn´t like today, where you get the chance to ride for yourself in your first years (unless you truly were a phenomenon like Hinault or Merckx). You had to bite the bullet and pay your dues first, even if it meant sacrificing personal success, or you could end up blacklisted from the sport if you didn´t play by the rules (try looking up a name like Mogens Frey and you´ll see what I mean). Bjarne would no doubt have won a lot more races in his early years if he was riding today, where the mentality has changed, but back then he would be lucky if he got to ride his own chance more than one or two times per season. Therefore you can´t say that his results from before he became a captain are in any way indicative of how he could have finished, had he ridden for himself.
Otherwise a good video! I´ll never forget that summer of 96, where Indurain´s reign of boredom came to an end. As a young teen back then I loved the tour, but during those five years of Banesto domination, the race would usually have been decided mid way through after the first long time trial and then the rest could fight for second while Miguel comfortably rode home surrounded by his team mates and never attacked. The few times he did, people were almost shocked to see it happen! To see someone who did attack get the rewards for it and finally break that deadlock felt like cycling had been freed again! Bjarne is a true legend, even if it´s hard to respect for how long and how many times he directly lied about his doping involvement both during and after his career ended, but to me he was only playing on an even playing field with everyone else he was competing against at that time.
agree completely..All those guys sprinting with Riis at the finishes were doped..and once again, if you didn't dope , you didn't win..
Indurain attacked only in his 5 tdf in 1995 tdf in Liege and La Plagne. Maybe if this not happened, Riis could win that Tour.
@@michaelsteven1090 ironicly one of the few that didnt dope (yet) was lance armstrong. but he noticed how ppl he used to beat or at least could keep up with were now passing him left and right. like indurain passed him in a time trial somewhere with like 5 km/h faster speeds. so he knew in order to win he also had to start using EPO and we all know how that turned out later on.
@@cyclingstories If he hadn´t been on such an extremely dysfunctional team, it would have helped too! Indurain had the advantage of having a team completely dedicated to him alone, while Gewiss was full of (sometimes bordering on crazy) internal power struggles, that Bjarne constantly had to fight against.
It´s crazy to think about now, but it was supposed to be Berzin, the team´s golden boy, who was originally the captain in that tour and it wasn´t until the tour was over halfway over, that Bjarne was named as the guy, they were riding for. Even after that, the "help" he got from the team was questionable at times. With a peak power Team Telekom like he had the year after riding for him alone, I don´t think Indurain or Zulle could have beaten him, but we´ll never know, will we?
It´s no wonder that he couldn´t get away from that team fast enough, when Telekom came luring with all of those nice Deutsch Marks on top of it!
@@joowsty yea, and Lance was HEAVY back then..He knew at that point he had to lose weight..When he won Worlds in '93 he was clean..There was very little EPO then..FYI..Ullrich was an amateur then and won gold..I'm sure he was clean too..All these guys are genetic freaks, dope or not..
I followed those events back then. When he moved to Team Telekom, he obviously brought the whole knowledge about how to dope better than the others with him. He made the Team of mostly average German riders into 9 people who dominated the Tour with two competing riders over all plus at the same time a sprinter that dominated the flat stages and 6 others who supported the three leaders on every stage.
This worked only for a short time until the other teams learned how to do the same. A unique performance that started what is now called the dark age of cycling.
Riis was a true master. Zabel, Bolts and Aldag were good riders but not top ones. Ullrich was a young superclass but a novice. He turned that team of newbies into a monstars.
Only Festina had better medical preparation between 1996 and 1998
Yes that was the dark age. In the light age we’ve moved on to asthma drugs.
That was the best era of cycling
Except ullrich wasn't onn epo then
your a clown.. he didnt doped himself... it was the norm on the team, orchestrated by the doctors.. not something the rider had any saying in..wake up..either you did it or you where not on that team.. it was the norm... but I recon your as blank as even if facts is shining you in the face.. your immune..at least you look the part so people can take that into consideration.
it was the norm on deutche telecom just as it was on every other team on early 1990s
Indurain was an average rider for years before suddenly becoming a world beater.....he seems to have avoided any scrutiny. Wonder why?
Here's the cynical answer that fits the mood of these comments: it's because Indurain never made a single enemy in the peloton or the press. He was nice to everyone and the press at worst found him quiet and boring. If you start to accuse the guy with no enemies, people would turn on you instantly.
@@Thicc_Cheese_Dip Yes, this is what Lance A. did not understand, he fell because of his bully attitude
I find it amazing that they single one person out Riis and Armstrong. I fully agree that they should be heavily sanctioned BUT in that era just about everybody was on some type of performance drug/regimen so they should all have been sanctioned not just the high profile individuals. The authorities should have deleted the races in total and not just taken Riis and Lances wins away. Even if you came last you should receive the same punishment as the winner. They is Justice.
But the guy who came in last probably didn't cheat. He's the guy these guy cheated. Took his wins and money and glory. Riis and Armstrong stand out cause they went from mediocre to greatest of all times. Like unbeatable monsters. No one else had that big of an improvement
@@basquat76 There where Riis who won once... NO one talks about Indurain. That is sickening
@@renemortensen5028 I think you misunderstood everything i said
@@basquat76 i think you took my comment personal. It was'nt I was riding along
@@renemortensen5028 No it just didn't make much sense to me.
In what time everybody was using doping - Bjarne Riis was the best
In 1980 F. Moser set the hourrecord on blood doping. From 1987 medicaldoping was the norm in pro cycling. I was there. Many other winners where doped inkl Indurain. The Peleton and amateurs where doped to. That's a fact.
Yes yes, and Indurain was doped before him... He got off when Riss won
At the time, EVERYONE WAS ON SOMETHING!
END OF STORY
Where and when was Indurain tested positive ? Never known or read about it but of course might be possible like Delgado in 88
@@WONGLER
He was just lucky and Riis wasn't tested posetive either, he said it himself
Greg Lemonds fall in cycling was the turning point of the "doped" era of cycling. The way he went from being a leader to being able to not even follow the pack is amazing to hear. He allways claims that he never used doping. And i believe that. Simular falls have been seen before. Like Andy Scleck after Frank was caught. Everyone was doped maxed out in that Era from start 90és to at least 2010. Now? who knows. There are not really any scandals to speak off soo. well
Are you really questioning if modern cycling or any sport really is rife with doping?
You need to look at testing policies of any sport. Most are all practically identical and designed to allow doping.
laurent fignon was the same. Epo changed everything.sure they took amphetimines since cycling began but in the early 90s, it became scientific
@@Splozy i am not saying it dont exist. Just saying its not something we know for sure, since no one is caught.
I'm almost certain there are a couple things still going on:
1. Microdosing of drugs like EPO, HGH, testosterone, or red blood cells by a few riders.
2. An abuse of the TUE exemption (Chris Froome is a good example).
3. More than just microdosing of some domestiques, who are rarely tested.
4. Motors in a few bikes deeply hidden adding 20-50 watts for a few minutes. Most possibly used by climbing domestiques and lead out riders.
Not saying all riders are doping. I also think the kind of doping listed above isn't anywhere near it was 20 years ago. Not even close. It is most likely used during training, and very minimally and very carefully to give a select few riders a bit of an advantage. Who? I won't guess. I'd like to think there are a lot of riders racing today, name riders, who are clean. Maybe I'm naive. But I don't think they all are, no.
The times have not come down in a meaningful way. The just got better at getting away with it.
Can’t be the best cyclist in the word without some good dope! Keep the dope train rolling lol
Is it fair to point out a single rider in a generation where everyone was doped. In that generation all the danish riders admitted they used doping. Rolf Sørensen, Bo Hamburger, Jesper Skibby, Brian Holm. Bjarne was an exceptional rider and he deserves alot more credit. He should not be so much less credited than Lemond, Fignon, Indurain or any other winner of the Tour De France whom with certainty also used doping.
I firmly believe that Team Sky was the last "Telekom".
In my naive mind cycling is now clean (almost)
Poor Denmark. Infamous for Riis and Chicken. But now they have a TdF winner who is nothing but a creation of science. A 58Kg nobody before 2021 who on Saturday nearly beat the rampaging WvA in a 40k rolling course TT.
I seriously doubt if any tour has been won without doping. Watching the tour these days it just baffles me how unaffected they look climbing after 150km.
They all look affected this Tour. Seen Bardet after the Granon, Jakobsen and also Pogacar?
But still, he managed to lose to Miguel Indurain in `93, `94 and `95.
Why ?? Maybe he was not the only one cheating
Of course but not only Indurain.
Rominger, Jaskula and Mejia in 93
Zulle in 95
In 94 he was in the best prepared team with Ferrari but Ugrumov had the priority in the team. Berzin Boys were first in the doping pyramid.
@@cyclingstories The crazy thing about Mejia is his co-captain Andy Hampsten who's part of the small clean talented like Mottet, vouch for a clean Motorola team in TDF 93, so it's possible Mejia was a huge talent who got close to the podium with no oxygen vector doping at the height of the EPO era in TDF 93 😲
Great content regardless !! honestly who knows for sure if there's a 100% clean champion. Robert Millar recently admitted to using EPO in the 90s, guess he was too old and not a strong responder to benefit well, and stated that all top 80s top guys like Roche, Hinault and even Lemond are doping hard. Would you agree? Lemond got a clean reputation from peloton but his miraculous recovery in TDF 89 and the 4th fastest TT on the last day of the tour, on older bike do raises questions. We know autologous blood transfusion doping was already done in the 80s, from Moser to PDM team like Theunisse and Rooks in TDF 88...
pretty sure if the young ullrich would have been allowed to attack in 96, he would have lost to him as well…Ullrich was his deluxe helper in 1996 and seemed like he always had more gas in the tank at the end of every stage like all the others! when you mix great talent with pro doping it really gets terrifying at what the human body can do as seen later on with armstrong especially
What the hell happened to the rider in the background at 4:12?
It looks like an official takes him out with a clothesline
Well spotted.. Certainly one hell of a crash, and fall.
Looks weird, no one needs any supply's or service in that part of the game.
1996 was my favourite year.
4:12 the guy chasing puts his head down and gets taken out by the motorcycle.
whoa! didn't see that!..I'm sure the leather helmet saved him..lol
@@michaelsteven1090 Yea that was some spill he took 😬
nah he ran into the back of the moto who was slowing to turn off course. 100% the cyclist's fault. end of the stage no one's around him, no point drafting anymore.
@@oldfrend You are obviously not a cyclist. When one puts his head down they are in fault. He wasn't thinking the bike was going to turn .
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed your english is terrible. i have no idea what you're saying.
The video focuses on Riis transformation at the 1993 TdF. But what showed up at the 1996 Tour was something else.
They where all doped, all of em. Even today they are doped. All of them are so close to the "legal" limit. All of those limits are unnatural. And i would bet my right arm there are something the anti doping thing cant find. Look at them on todays stage, the 17th in the tour de France. Pogacars team was dead yesterday, and today they catapults him over the mountains. Not to mention Van Aart's monster tour, he has been in the zone on all stages, what the hell is that?
But i have to say, i find it more interesting this year than the last 10 years.
He went from a clean-ish average pro rider, to a monster once he got the "best" doping regimen.
And he was willing to risk blood clots galore for glory.
It is hard to say whether he was more doped up than his competitors. Either way, the difference in performance you illustrated gives a good view on how much PED improves an athlete.
yeah some athletes get a modest (relatively speaking) improvement, while others get a MASSIVE response to doping
Bjarne Rijs was definitely one of those "super responders" to drugs
and yet the TDF is faster each year.... they are still just as doped as they always where
@@theriddler2277 bike gearing gets better every several years so even without drugs the peloton will always be faster then the 80s/90s
everbody in top 10 was doped in the 90s
@@theriddler2277 technology is way better than it was back then, as is conditioning. bikes weigh half as much and much more aero; a big dude like riis would never be a great climber today against dudes like nairo who are just skin and bones in the upper body and all lean muscles in the legs. riis didn't even use an aero helmet!
Video is well made and interesting to watch, but the whole premise kind of falls flat when you consider that every single rider you're naming also were as doped as they could get away with.
Hilarious 😂 💉 great vid 💪🙏
Wouldn‘t be too sure that this could never happen again…
Pogacar... 100%
@@karl8805 Beweise ?
On 4:20 the cops are like - lets remove this dead body out of the way
Do an expose' on Miguel Indurain.....tell "Big Mig's" doping story.
Thanks for your great story. Just an idea: Do you remember the Austrian Peter Luttenberger? He came from nowhere and then all of a sudden he won the Tour de Suisse big style and Top 5 Tour de France, got a million $ contract and then disappeared. He still races for years and never got caught for doping. Maybe you can find out more details. Did he stop doping because all he wanted to have is a good living? Or did he have a near-to-death experience?
Bernard Eisel?
@@Killroy76 no, as said talking about Peter Luttenberger.
Luttenberger and also Zenon Jaskula is another similar one. Had one great year on well funded Italian teams and then transferred to a lower budget team and were never the same riders. Funny that !
@@Killroy76 do you know how to read?
It is happening as we speak. History always, always repeats itself.
well maybe even back then most of the riders wasnt cought on the test but admitted it them selfs years later like Riis. So it is deffinatly possible that it is to hard to track down
“Slow and clumsy donkey” 😂
The people who have chosen the route for Tour De France, is also not without fault for the amount of doping that is and has been. They have made the Tour De France harder and harder, to a point where it is almost impossible to accomplish.
The editor made a lot of workshop with the photo- editing of Riis.
So the editor is cheating ad Well!!!! How ironic 😏
Pogacar the new doper
I wonder how he prevented a heart attack or stroke. His blood must have been like thick sludge. They called him 'Mr. Sixty Percent," referring to his blood hematocrit. He must have been taking an anticoagulant or blood thinner.
A Danish rider from the same era called Jesper Skibby claims he never heard anyone in the peloton call Bjarne Riis Mr 60%
@@kasperjepsen2917 I recall the name Jesper Skibby. I wonder where the "Mr. 60%" moniker comes from. At any rate, Riis had to have been doped to get the results that he did.
I’m not denying that he doped. They all did back then. I don’t know how it is these days, but back then i’m pretty sure every Tour de France rider doped. The whole “mister 60%” sounds kind of like something other riders might have been saying, trying to justify themselves to me.
Like: “He must have doped so much more than me, that’s the only way he could win.”
Anti-coagulant most likely. My dad used to take that. He has CKD
@@Joopsmann Riis was once hospitalized where they measured the infamous 60pct. They weren't on blood thinners but had timers going off every 2 hours to getnup and get the blood flowing.
To pretend like those guys that beat Riis weren't as doped in those stage's in the Tour is a falacy
Not with the preparation of Cecchini
@@cyclingstories You should just take this video down if you cannot recognize that. The way the video is set up with the thumbnail, the music and the commentary is already disgusting as it is.
Who was the poor sap that got cut up by the motorcycle on the run to the finish at 4:13?
Your selective disdain for Bjarne Riis is a little pathetic considering everyone was doping at the time.
Selective? You didn't saw our channel right,
Mr. 60 pct
To be fair, he only won in 96, cause Ullrich held back for his captain.
No one should ever lose their tour titles for doping. It was a level playing field.
WTF? Little wonder yur shiny an happy with that Dodgy set of morals and logic 🤔
No it wasn't a level playing field .... they maybe were all juiced but it's like a local garage tuning your car against a Formula One team working on it for years. Lance was turbo charged by Ferrari .... no one could compete.
it is ot a level playing field it is a scam selling the fans a lie
I was a big fan of the sport back in those top fuel doping days... I had no idea until the lance Armstrong story started spilling out that they were all doped to the gills... Probably some of the riders had gills. I've watched some of the footage of battles between Indurain, and the other big names of the era in recent years, and in retrospect their supercharged performances seem pretty unnatural and frenetic...
4:15 there's a video for you - spectator / race official / road furniture caused crashes
these Tour de Pharmacy legends will suffer the long term health consequences of their doping adventure
99 out of 100 used doping then!
He was the best in a year, where they all were doped, and he was wery well known in Denmark, long before the tour in 1996, just to correct you.
We talked about 1993 not 1996
@@cyclingstories Yes he was well known in Denmark back then. He and Rolf Sørensen were the face of Danish cycling even going back to the late 80's known as the two most talented Danish riders at the time and as rivals..
All cyclists was taking something back in the day... You think Indurain was clean? 🤔🤧😜🤣
So clean with Padilla and Conconi.
With 5 or 6 dead teammates
@@cyclingstories University of Ferrara was at the time world leading in "sports medicine"... 😜
@@cyclingstories then why didn't you take a hit on the sport generally, instead of picking one single rider?
He's achievements was admirable anyway.. 🚵🏻🚵🏻
Not a well researched video. Bjarne Riis' track record in Denmark was excellent as a young rider, the best auxiliary rider for Fignon, nr 14 in 1994 nr. 3 in 1995 and then moved to the top team Telekom where he with great support eventually won. His progression was just a normal as anyone else. He was doped to the limits as were the rest of the peloton. So keep your heroes: Indurain, Pantani, Ullrich and Armstrong and call Riis a bald loser. Hope you see the ignorance.
Not to mention the fact that he was a natural talent as a kid, winning pretty much any race he participated in, even going so far as to win the unofficial world championships for kids.
Furthermore, he finished 6th in the world championships and won a stage in the Giro of 1989, before he started doping, which also helps make the premise of the video fall flat.
I was born in comunistic country. We had got Riise too. He's name was Olaf Ludwig, he was from DDR.
All sport from DDR were doped. Big muscles girls lol
I was born in a once democratic country, we had Bjarne Riis, it was nice and okay, we were free but naïve people back then. Today we are communistic and deprived from any fun. We will pretend to enjoy the Tour from 1-3 of July in Denmark, but its all smoke and mirrors...
"from friendly alopecia to mr. 60..." hahahaha
Øjne blå som Frankrigs himmel. Stærk som få og aldrig svimmel. Jysk af sind. Men verdensmand. Ingen er så go' som han!!
He won the tour de france, fool.... And at that time everyone was doped. And they proberly still are :)
Watching these even though the bias is awesome
An interesting piece. Riise and Ullrich were somehow from the same stable, although one was Iron Curtain and the other in liberal, fun-loving Denmark.
To this day there are strange and questionable dips and surges on form. And lost laptops and jiffy bags.... The knighted boss of Sky and his knighted team leader and the Kenyan who followed have much to explain but never will. Many of Sky's top results look quite rum.
I love the sport but it tries its best to make me dislike it.
Even my favourites over the years were clearly juiced. But I like the sport.
I dont know if you know but Froome has been out of "Sky" for quite a long time now and its "Ineos Grenadiers" now.
@@guitarrerist698 I had heard.... One picks up these snippets from he news media and so on.
The bar was set by Sky and many people still see the same structure behind the riders. There are eras identified in part by the name of the team seen as the principal malefactor. Banesto... USPS.... Discovery and so on. On the eyes of many, Sky/Skyneos/Ineos was/is one such team. The stain was left by Sky. Other names will follow.
@@guitarrerist698 post froome SKY is irrelevant.
Many of these dopers/cheaters are Managers in the sport today and heros in their countries. Flush them out!!
Why? Everyone and his cat was doped those days. Notice the career jump other mediocre riders took..
Why aren't French riders taken out in the same manner...
Funny that you kept pointing out his baldness.
Where have you gone mate
From what I've heard, all the top bikers are doped up with something.
Please make sure we know he's bald. You may have mentioned it a time or two.
What about Tadej Pogacar currently , is he really " clean " ? Tough to believe......
Until he actually fails a test or admits to doping then he must be given the benefit of the doubt
Top 20 were all roided up. Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.
Greetings from Denmark
This channel has a big problem with Riis... id like like to see a video on the incredible performances of Luigi!
Good video but let's be real- all of the GC riders for decades and especially today are on doping programs. I love what Pogachar is doing this year, but no way is he that much better without artificial enhancements. Honestly, I'm okay with the pro's doping because it makes such a performance spectacle. Again- let's be honest- the entire GC has been doped, is doped, and always will be doped.
My compliments! This is one of best comments I read.Com’on folks, be realistic. Tales are tales , life is life. If anyone of comments comes from the ones who had any contact to that world of just practiced any ciclyng race … there’s no way. Totally other stuff is cycling behind screen. That’s still a tale.Or” holliwood movie”. Open your eyes folks!
Armstrong's hematocrit was about 49%. whoever says he is the most doped cyclist in history is completely wrong. Mister 60 is definitely one of the most doped cyclists in history
We al knew what we were watching. Then it was known they took epo, but accepted. But it had to change. Not sure if the riders today are clean. I excpect they dope at young age to have more evolved body when mature. Seems like it, growhormones and so.
EVERYONE THAT BEAT HIM WAS DOPING TOO! They were all doping in one way or another. And of course Lance would soon learn to perfect it. So what’s the point of singling out one over the other?
good point
Probably because he came out of nowhere at the solid age of 29 to suddenly win. Other tour winners around that time who took doping like Armstrong, Ullrich and Pantani were already at the top since their youth.
And Indurain got never caught with doping too. Also why take Armstrong all his vicories away and not with all the other winners who got caught? Thats also unfair.
You don't understand anything.
Not one out over the other
We're talking about how, when and where each case is doped.
That's the magic. Riis was a guy who can't climb a Bridge. In 1993 he was with the best ones.
It's like Arashiro in 2014 was fighting for tdf. Amazing case.
@@cyclingstories "you don't understand anything" comes across as being quite rude for no reason. I know what you mean with the video, and i only told facts. But maybe your not talking to me idk.
Everyone knew he was doped to the max, and yet, he could go on to be a team director.
And direct another doping XD
Cyrille Guimard was doped to the max by Docteur Mabuse. He could go on as a team director of Hinault and Fignon ao. Then as a director of the French Team. He's still active in 2022. Please explain on which base would you forbid Rijs to work ?
Yet Michael Rasmussen was thrown under the bus for unveiling the doping community, like we didnt already know. That is the worst for me, that man got backstabbed.
Lech Piasecki - it was just a cyclist. He didn't need any dope to beat everyone in his time. Also the fact that he was a Pole from behind the "iron curtain" did not prevent him from competing with the best.
In 1988, he won the team time trial stages and individually at the Giro d'Italia, and won gold in the 5,000m race to pursue the pros at the Ghent track world championship, defeating Briton Anthony Doyle in the final. In 1989 Piasecki won the time trials in Tirreno Adriatico and Giro d'Italia, the aces criterion in Bologna and the Giro di Friuli race. In 1990 he won the Giro d'Italia time trial and the Firenze-Pistoia race.
Considering how obsessed the glorious countries behind the Iron Curtain was with proving their superiority, it is highly unlikely they were clean. Lately it has been proven that GDR teams were regularly doped.
Are you kidding?
ALL the former communist countries had State-doping.
Some of the East-German women where practically turned in to men with hormones.
Nah it was because his bald dome was so aero
They were all doped ...
I read he now makes some cash using his forehead as a movie screen.
I guess you didn't see this year's race?
So many facts u get wrong. He never said he could win the tour in 1993. He was just as surpriced he could follow the best on the clibs.
Now imagine how way way much doped were the contenders ahead of him!!! Ever since I began racing USCF license catecories in CA., there would be not a single strong contender on any race who did not cheat!!! Period! Lance only took the blame for all ages of cycling!
There is another thing called talent too.
For example, Bugno was much better cyclist than Riis.
@Cycling Stories ..... and propably just as doped as Bjarne.
LA was attacked by US missiles because he decided to play it the american dream way (financial speculation, foundation cover, political games). He played a tenth of millions derivative speculation on Tour de France success.
Fact is he was never threatened in France, beit for doping investigation only.
It is obvious he could have escaped the US missiles, if only he had continued with Cyrille's Cofidis. He had the very best protection there. His $$$$$$$$$$$$$ objective was just sooo much higher
To whomever writes these stories about bicycle racing and "dopers". You know absolutely nothing about the subject. Go to Vail Colorado and tell Lance what you say about their racing but be sure and bring a body guard.
"I take this as a Yes" :D :D :D
Clumsey donkey? I like ur videos but u seem to be confused about the fact that Riis was known as a very good handler of the bike.
Not about habilities with the bike just a simple domestique that he couldn't climb with the best without epo
@@cyclingstories How does that make him a clumsey donkey? Like the vids but it seems like sometimes y'all are just shitting on riders for reason 😂
having watched cycling since back then, I have no doubts all the big people where doping. Not a second in doubt that it was widespread.
Only thing I will say is I dont understand why his victory wasnt taken away. But so be it I suppose.
And given to whom?
Jan Ullrich?
Richard Virenque??
I think they should test and test some more. Keep historic samples for when testing tech gets better. But...If you don't catch them with a positive test during the tour don't strip their titles. Always keep advancing test but end the witch hunt after the race is over. Does no good, hurts the sport, when you selectively go back and strip titles.
Why not this. HAVE A RACE WITH ALL PEDs LEGAL. I’d truly like to see the results.
A verdade é que todos se dopam. Infelizmente. Os atletas dizem que não, as equipes se isentam, mas a gente sabe que o doping está enraizado. É fato!
Everyone is taking something. It's the mind that wins tour de france
Obviously, this was shameful. But perhaps less so, if everyone at the top did it. Are there any top cyclists from that era that are thought to have been clean?
In your dreams. Todays riders are much more doped, and the teams, antidoping , sponsors and uci are all in it together. It's a big narrative as always
Lance Armstrong took the use of medicaments of Indurain and Riis to another level. Medical science has evolved.
Riis had to be doped to win since every rider was doped.
very nicely done, but has a strangely cut ending.