Thank you for an excellent, clear and well edited video (good fade in and out). I saw this on a pub in England but it was mounted on a horizontal support/draw wire so that the screen could be slid to one side but your video has given me other ideas; my posts are only 700mm apart so one could insert grommets vertically to line up with the posts and secure the vinyl sheet using a wooden batten screwed to the posts through the grommet holes. Windy, wet and nasty here in the UK in winter (I lived in FL for 8 years) so this would keep the sheets more firmly in place. Thanks again, a pleasure to watch and highly informative. Gareth
I just want to say that I loved this idea. We were looking into buying Amish made glass inserts when I ran across it and were not in a position to buy them financially nor did we have the room to store the windows. I showed the video to hubby and ordered the supplies. It did take some time to get the done but was worth it! We are currently on our 2nd year of using them (in Illinois cold, warm, blowing winter) and while they are showing wear I am happy with them. They allowed us to extend the time on our deck both in the fall and in the spring. We also have 2 small electric heaters out there to use on sunny days (the deck faces the south) during even colder days during the winter. I do love the idea of using the velcro as several of our grommets did pull, especially in the corners. As we were finishing up the original project, we only did the grommets in the corners and only used the 1 inch washers down the sides and they almost did better. I believe this was because when the grommet was pounded thru the tape and plastic, it compromized it more than just slipping a screw thru it all. One more tip, LABEL your sheets when taking them down at the end of the year. I thought if I just piled them up and worked in reverse when putting them back up I would be ok. Let's just say, the old mind ain't what she used to be. ;) Anyhoo, I hope by this fall we will have the funds to get our actual windows and we now have space to store them. All in all I would do it again. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, label them CLEARLY, or you'll have a tough time when you're ready to hang them back up. (Written from sad experience.)
I've been wanting to make our screened in porch a 4 season porch to increase the square footage of my tiny house and this is a great guide! Thank you for posting and I will let you know how mine turns out.
Still a relevant video years later! I had my deck screened-in two years ago and plan to use your method to help me sit out on my deck for as long as I can in the colder months.
I'm curious how long it lasted for her. If it lasted for 2 years? It would be worth it. If it lasted longer? BIG bonus! I looked through the comments to see if she had updated the success of her creation and couldn't find any comments she made about that. Did you use this method with success?
Tamara It could last forever. I went a slightly different route and used marine snaps to secure the vinyl panels to my deck. It was a lot of work in the beginning but it was worth it. In the winter, after I install my vinyl panels, I use a small propane heater and after about 30 minutes my deck is nice and toasty. The only problem I have in the winter is the deck floor being cold. I can sit on the deck for several hours before my feet get to cold. Other than that, I’m glad that I did it! Will send a pic if I can figure out how to.
Thank you Karen, this was the best video I've seen on how I can keep the pups dry and see what they're getting up to in their outside play pen during the day in this none brilliant British weather. Since my stroke in 1998, mental blocks are a constant daily battle. I'm So, so grateful to you for explaining things clearly. Now to put it into practise... x :-)
I am so happy to have found this wonderful presentation! I've downsided into a +55 community and have a small balcony on the 2nd floor. Karen's instructions and video are exactly what I was hoping to find. I read the comments and believe for me and my situation the velcro is the way to go. Now, if anyone has an idea as to how I could have it extend "past my balcony" by 12 inches all the way around the outside.......that would be awesome. I have plants on the railing and I have hanging baskets I really wanted to keep as I grow some leafy greens. I live in NE Ga in Ringgold. The area that is open at my balcony that I wish to cover is 11 foot 7 inches across and 7 foot 5 inches down. There are so many wonderful helpful people with great ideas, thought someone can pass some ideas my way. If not, I'm doing it Karen's way! ....Gosh, I've been thing about this for months wondering how to block the constant cold winds at this apartment complex on a hill. .....It's nickname is Windy Hill! Thank-you for this video!! Ms Sherry
This is the most helpful video I have seen! All the other "DIY" videos I found were material ordered from a company. Aside from the bonus of saving money, I love making things myself because there is much more of a sense of accomplishment when working on projects for my little bar! Thank you so much because I was really sure where to begin on this project! ~Crystal
we have already seen your video...now that we moved to another house, had to watch the video again today and make our screened porch ready for colder weather:) thank you:)
Hi. We used 20 gauge clear vinyl (fabric dot com), brown ProGaff gaffer's tape (tapebrothers), and brass grommits and deck screws from Lowe's. The main tools were scissors and a straight edge for cutting the vinyl, a hammer for the grommit kit, and a power driver for the deck screws. You'll also want a tape measure and a marker or sharpie. The gauge of the vinyl and color of the trim tape would be up to you and your local needs. Good luck.
That's a good idea, I live in the Southeast part of the US and every year I have a mess on my screened in porch due to pollen and it's such a pain to deal with. This would definitely help me.
This was a great idea, I used it for my cargo trailer conversion for the back drop down door. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this video up
This is nice. I was just thinking while watching her roll this out that I had seen this clear vinyl down on the rolls where I buy my table clothes. I have a small porch and was thinking of giving this a go.
Take a look at EZ screen it’s a track system that looks really clean and simple and you put it on the outside of the porch. Then for the screen itself I looked at invisible screen and it is fantastic. You can find all the stuff on the Internet
I luv your idea. The only thing I might do to install it. Is I would use two sided tape to hang it before I put the screws to secure it. Enjoyed your video.
This is a great idea! Thank you! I may see if I can find some clear vinyl shower curtains that already have the grommets in them and add more grommets as needed to the bottom.
Hi. The tape has held up pretty well, but as mentioned, we would use velcro if we were starting over. We might still use tape to dress the edges, but I'm not sure of that.
@@rbraxley I would prefer hooks to mount, that way I can put up and take down easier. I think doing this over and over each year would ruin the original holes eventually. I bought rolled shades for inside to keep most thunderstorms and summer rain out. Only gets wet on edge.
Thank you so much for the easy instruction and variety of vids. I have many projects to do to repair/ improve my mobile home. I cannot afford to hire someone to do them, so I DIM. These teaching tools will help me get it right the first time!
I put my vinyl up using the spline on the lower sections. I left screen up on top where wide roof eves protected the porch from Florida rain.Water used to flood directly onto the floor when tropical storms were torrential. The vinyl waterproofed very well. The hot sun would eventually cause the vinyl to become brittle. Replacement no big deal.
brilliant. i used the grommets only on top, creating a loop that i could put a pvc supported by a steel rod inside, across the top. curtain rod holders support that. I can manually roll the plastic windows up and tie them off (thru the grommet holes) when I want them up. they become inconspicous. the edges are attached by stainless marine snaps , the kind where one side screws into the wood frame, and the other side is hammered into the edge of the 20 g vinyl used for the enclosure. a radiant heater provides heat.
Thanks for posting this. I paid to have someone install plastic on in my screened breezeway and it come down the next morning. Last year I tried to use clear vinyl shower curtains on a rod to enclose the screens, but it didn't work. I am going to try it again using the tape around the edges and the screws at the top like you suggested.
My vinyl panels were installed a week ago and it looks great. I used shower curtains since they already had the grommets at the top. The handy man added grommets to the bottom to hold it in place. My concern is whether the curtains will be able to survive the cold winter weather in Chicago. I purchased a small space heated for that space. I tried it last night on low and it was still very cold in my breezeway. I will have to adjust the temp. Anyone ever have the vinyl crack?
I ordered tape from the vendor you used, and their price was good and delivery was the next business day, followed up with the tracking number. Good service!
May I ask you how your clear vinyl enclosure is holding up? I'm getting ready to do this but wonder how materials hold in weather. I live in Atlanta, Georgia. Thank you for such a wonderful and informative video!!
You may ask. The vinyl has held up pretty well, though we're about to retire the panels because we're about to do something different with the porch. We do have them up right now and they still have good clarity. We have rolled them every year for storage, but it would probably have been better to have hung them. Over time a couple of the grommets have torn out and some of the tape is a bit gummy (probably because of our storage conditions). If we were making these today we would choose heavy duty velcro over the grommets. That would make them easier to put up and take down and would also (probably) create a tighter "seal" for the porch, though we were never going for a weather proof room. Professionally made panels would probably last longer and store better, but would cost a whole lot more. You should get several winters of use if you do something like we did, and take care of the vinyl. We live in Athens (Go Dawgs, beat LSU!), just down the road, so have the same weather as you.
This is an awesome cost effective way to test out the space and live with it before spending a bunch of money…This is exactly what I was looking for and you do a superb job with your videos. This made my heart happy when I found your video.
Do you mind telling us what you’re going to do next? Are you going to do glass? How did it work out in the winter time as far as heat goes were you able to sit out there some during the day or at night? Just wondering how much thermal capacity you get from the vinyl that’s all. We have a small cabin with a beautiful screen porch and it needs to work for us in the winter time as well as the summer so I’m looking at a lot of alternatives. Thank you so much in advance
@@mamasharoni Hi. Just noticed your question. It's a long story, but I'll try to make it short. We decided to put a small above-ground pool beneath the porch, so that it was flush with the deck. To do that they had to tear the porch apart (mostly), and then re-build. We decided we would use plexiglass panels for seasonal enclosure. We bought those just before the pandemic, so got lucky before the price of plexi went out the window (sorry for the pun). We bought 8x10 panels and cut each to the size of the section it was enclosing. These are held on with furring strips and deck screws. When we take them down at the end of winter we store them horizontally behind the sofa on the porch, under a sheet. The project also resulted in putting a solid roof on the porch, and we added under deck insulation, so with the panels up the deck is now much more like a room than before. I wouldn't say it's like a glassed-in room, but it's comfortable for sitting (or swimming) here in Georgia throughout the winter. Unfortunately, we neglected to make a video. Oh well.
Great ideas. After my husband died, I built a screened porch off my bedroom. It is open on three sides and I have a SpaBerry hot tub out there on concrete flooring. My dilemma has been rain blowing straight thru the porch, the cold in the winter and the awful yellow pollen in the spring. I think I can do this. Sometimes have terrible winds, though. I'm in the middle South, winters are not bad but do have some cold months. Brrrrr. Thanks so much for this idea. I had looked at ordering curtain weight canvas "tarps" but getting the different sizes cut was cost prohibitive. I could get the material and do it myself, I guess.
Great video! And, you've come up with such a tidy look. I'm going see if this will make my porch in Arizona usable this winter. Thank you for making this video - what a great help.
Thanks I just had a I call it sun room built and wanted to find some way of using it in the winter. I think you gave me just what I need. I also live in Ga. I'll let you know how it turns out.
I found 72" wide vinyl and have 77 wide openings so I am thinking just make up the 2.5" difference on each side with wider duct tape and some 2" wood furring boards on each side attached to my log posts? What do you think? Hope to complete by Nov 2. Doesn't have to look amazing. We live in the woods where this covered porch faces west and Lake Michigan effects and wind will be greatly reduced. Plus my kids are all moved out, husband has a bad knee an don't want to shovel these porches all winter long.
Our winter weather is typically just not very severe down here, so I cannot speak with any confidence about how well this type of set-up might withstand the conditions there in the frozen north. Our porch is also in the lee of our house, so is somewhat sheltered. Obviously a large sheet of vinyl could become a sail if it caught the wind, so I'd take that into consideration if the porch is not sheltered. We only used the tape to provide a finished edge and to provide some support for the grommets. In our set-up, the tape was not acting as "connective tissue" for the material. To answer the other question, I think our grommets were more like a foot apart.
I'm undertaking a similar project, but I opted to use snaps to hold the windows in place. Initially I was going to use turn-buttons (aka "common sense fastener"), but the cost of these proved prohibitive ($1.40 ~ $2.40 ea). It also requires a $50 tool to cut the oval holes. 100 snap studs, with wood screws, are $14. The other parts are even less. I'm using "gypsy" studs for where the window overlap. It's more work, but it solves the "what about the screw holes?" problem. I used Rochford Supply.
I love it!!! 💗 I cannot stand the nasty screens on my porch. Thinking of stripping them all out and doing this!!! Thank you for sharing your creativity and this clever DIY!!! 💗🙏🌺
And by the way....we are happily using this solution right now. Our porch is large, but one small natural gas heater from Northern tool raised the temperature 12 degrees in the porch yesterday. So instead of a room that was unusable at 58 degrees, we had a useable room at 70. If you sit nearer the heater it works to a much lower temp. We also have a stand up propane heater that in conjunction with the NG one allowed us to use the porch at New Years when it was more like 40 degrees out!
Nice job! I have a heavy duty frame greenhouse we use for sitting, but have a reflective tarp over roof. The biggest problem is sun will destroy any plastic within 2 years, and if using in winter, need tightly sealed plastic/edges, which gromments wont work for that, wind goes through. I have to replace one panel of my green house, and am looking for something that has uv block in the plastic before doing the labor on this. Even outdoor fabrics get trashed by sun in 2 yrs. Again, a fabric thatcan handle sunlight, so not to replace every two years.
Great job! Thanks so much. I'm doing something similar, but am making wood frames to fit into the existing wood frames. Your links are really helpful. Thank you again!
That’s an excellent idea! How did that work out? I see that you did this eight years ago. I’m in South Carolina and want to do the same with my plants and have a little sunny room during the winner. The frames are brilliant!
Hi. We used that system for a decade, and have now retired those vinyl panels. As mentioned in other replies, starting over we would use strong velcro instead of the grommet system. I think that would have provided a better "seal" and made the annual installation and removal process easier. The vinyl sections held their clarity and did the job for the entire time. The taped edges did become a bit gummy after several years, but that didn't diminish the efficiency of the system. We live in a mild climate, so the vinyl sections never had to do too much heavy lifting. I can say that we would still be using that system, but decided instead to switch to plexiglass panels held in place with wooden trim. The vinyl we placed on the outside of the porch, but the plexi we put on the inside. The new system creates more of an indoor feel than did the vinyl. We got lucky and purchased the plexi just before the pandemic, which means we got it for a good price. It might be a more expensive proposition today. Hope that helps.
Enjoyed your video ... We put shrink plastic up EVERY ( :) ) year looks great & usually last all year if a bird doesn't decide to fly into it ... very clear , just like glass . After watching this we may try using the material's you have used , we have to throw away the shrink plastic each yr. ... Thanks again
Great instructional video. If you like this , search"How to enclose a porch with eze breeze windows." Less maintenance and you get year round use for a fraction of the cost of glass but still having the classy appearance of glass.
I had thought about sewing fabric for the grommets but this seems much easier. Thanks. I also thought about velcro but havent had good luck even with the heavy duty stuff. I have yet to find one with glue that will stick long enough or endure heavy weights. Perhaps grommets with velcro added to give a seal. I may even check for magnetic strips as well just to seal out the air.
Good video wish I would have watched this before putting up tarps for the winter here in Wisconsin. Tarps, metal wires and the like is energy draining and time consuming since the deck/porch is half enclosed/open and the other half is exposed.
Great porch covers. Can you continually screw and unscrew these in and out every year? I'm guessing the answer is no, but am not sure what the alternative would be.
The screws stay in place, and the grommets are slipped on and off at the appropriate times of year. The vinyl does shrink while in storage, so a hair dryer comes in handy to make the panels more pliable. If we were re-doing the project, we would probably use heavy duty velcro instead of the grommet system.
Hi Quigley. Cannot really answer your question. We live in the Deep South, so we don't bother to heat the porch, though we can bring out a couple of ceramic heaters for "spot" heating on colder days. I can say the the vinyl panels did have a noticeable effect on keeping the porch warmer, but we're just not faced with very many really cold days. If it's really cold (by our standards) we just chicken out, but this did allow us to use the porch throughout the winter. Good luck.
Hi! Where we live in Va. the wind is very high. Our porch does not have screens on it. Do you think we could still do it? I am wanting something for the winter to enclose the porch from the wind. I have a dog that has to go out and I would like to stay as warm as we can. Your thought please! Thank you!!! Loved your porch!!!
This is only a guess on my part, but I think you'd probably be OK. With our particular set-up, the porch sits on the inside of an "L" corner of the house, so it's blocked from the wind in two directions. You may have noticed in other comments that we would switch from the grommets to full velcro (industrial) for attaching the panels if we were starting the project today. I think velcro would provide an even stronger hold against the wind than would the grommets over screw heads, and would also be more air tight. We love the porch too--it's a great place to spend time.
Hi Kurt. Actually, the panels have held up well, though we have lost a couple of the grommets, which we'll "patch" when we re-hang in a couple of weeks. While we do get below 40 degrees, we don't get much hard cold here. Interesting idea about the velcro.
You recommend gaff tape over duct tape, but gaff tape usually has a fabric backing compared to the vinyl backing off duct tape. Would the vinyl backing be better at resisting mold due to getting wet? How has the gaff tape held up over the years since doing this?
It's held up reasonably well, though no longer looks brand new. Duct tape would work just as well, but I'm not sure if it's available in as many colors. (Maybe it is.) As mentioned in other comments, we would go with velcro if starting over today, and maybe not use the tape at all.
I really like the way they look! I have had AWFUL luck with diy grommet projects in the past so I'm glad to hear the velcro idea. Thank you for such a great video! You explain everything so well and I love that you tell us where to find the materials that you used. I love your porch. Does anyone have any tips on the best place/way to get an outdoor rug that will hold up and not cost a fortune?
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. The thing that concerns me is making holes in the wood of the outside of the deck. When you take it down, are there visible holes from the desk screws? Otherwise, great job to you.
I'm curious how it lasted through the winter and winds - I have a similar porch and I want it enclosed for my dog. We get high winds here in March tough - I live in Ajax, Ontario
@@LauraLM Hi. We never had a problem with the wind, but our porch is fairly well sheltered. This approach worked well for our mild winters, but I'm not sure how it'll handle your northern climate. Good luck.
Thank you im in Florida & yes it does get " cold" here as well. Miss the snow from up north at holiday time, just not working in it. Great INEXPENSIVE way to " winterize a screen porch w/o having to invest in glass or plexiglass. The only thing i might change is using some type of small hooks instead of deck screws for easy removal. The vinyl looks very elegant the way you taped it with gromets.
Hello, I had this idea for recovering a 10x20 pop up gazebo. The finish was beautiful and I was able to make it water tight with the gorrila glue and some silicone. My only caution is that this material is not for what we used it for. With that being said it did not last long for me 1 year tops. The best material is the vinyl used for marine enclosures. Their material has uv resistance and has water repellent as well. It is very expensive and lasts years.
Hello. As mentioned elsewhere, we live in the Deep South, so we're not really faced with serious cold. If we are, we hibernate. The vinyl wraps do keep the porch warmer that it would be otherwise, so we consider them a success.
I'm currently enclosing my back porch with this method. It is raining while I'm putting the panels up and I am finding the pro gaffers tape adhesive and coloring is coming off on my hands. I hope that it does not run onto the vinyl during the year. The Gaffers tape is water-resistant but obviously it is not waterproof. I was planning on putting some Velcro on it also but now I don't think it's going to stick. Will probably have to sew the velcro onto the Gaffers tape and vinyl trim. I checked on getting ezy Breeze Windows. It appears they run about $350 a piece on average.
Nice video :) I noticed a couple things that my help some people. Always work on a hard surface. Often measurements are out a tiny bit because of padding. It's also way easier to hammer in those grommets. Don't sit or move around on top of your product, you'll stretch and dimple the vinyl. I think I'm going to make 2 frames from lathe, glue and staple the vinyl between. I want to make screen panels and clear panels for different weather. I've seem online, that rolls of greenhouse grade poly (clear) are available in 20"x200" rolls for around $50. Our local greenhouses aren't open this time of year here in BC. Apparently birds still hit the panels (more seem to survive than glass) and cats like to scratch around the bottom fyi
We've never tried to compare the temp on the wrapped porch vs. the outside , so I really couldn't say. As mentioned before, we're in the deep South, so really low temps are rare. I can tell you that we bring plants in when we've got a freeze warning, and it's done the job. Greenhouse? Maybe not. The roof on our porch is transluscent, but not clear. I think a clear roof would pass a lot more solar energy and create a better environment for starting plants and cuttings. Good Luck.
Hi. I think the spikey part of the grommet should go down into the fabric. The advantage of the spikes over the smooth is that the spikes make the grommet less likely to slip out of place under load. Look carefully. The set grommet should have the convex or raised surface to the outside on both sides. You have no choice with the 1/2 that goes through the fabric but it is up to the installer to assure the same on the top side. I am sorry if some comment has already pointed this out. I really like the use of Gaffers tape around the edges. Sooooo much easier than sewing fabric around. Fabric tape should hold up well in the weather too. Here is a good tutorial on grommets: ua-cam.com/video/VW0oCSNZ4fA/v-deo.html
12 years later, perfect video. Thank you so much!
Literally exactly what I'm looking to do. 10 years and you're still helping people! Well done!
Of all the videos that I have looked, yours was the simplest and best way to do it thank God you put it on video
Probably a lot better and cheaper than buying. Good job!
So grateful!!!! The cheapest estimate for custom job was $3200!! This, we can handle for sure. Thank you for the post!
Thank you for an excellent, clear and well edited video (good fade in and out). I saw this on a pub in England but it was mounted on a horizontal support/draw wire so that the screen could be slid to one side but your video has given me other ideas; my posts are only 700mm apart so one could insert grommets vertically to line up with the posts and secure the vinyl sheet using a wooden batten screwed to the posts through the grommet holes. Windy, wet and nasty here in the UK in winter (I lived in FL for 8 years) so this would keep the sheets more firmly in place. Thanks again, a pleasure to watch and highly informative. Gareth
I just want to say that I loved this idea. We were looking into buying Amish made glass inserts when I ran across it and were not in a position to buy them financially nor did we have the room to store the windows. I showed the video to hubby and ordered the supplies. It did take some time to get the done but was worth it! We are currently on our 2nd year of using them (in Illinois cold, warm, blowing winter) and while they are showing wear I am happy with them. They allowed us to extend the time on our deck both in the fall and in the spring. We also have 2 small electric heaters out there to use on sunny days (the deck faces the south) during even colder days during the winter. I do love the idea of using the velcro as several of our grommets did pull, especially in the corners. As we were finishing up the original project, we only did the grommets in the corners and only used the 1 inch washers down the sides and they almost did better. I believe this was because when the grommet was pounded thru the tape and plastic, it compromized it more than just slipping a screw thru it all. One more tip, LABEL your sheets when taking them down at the end of the year. I thought if I just piled them up and worked in reverse when putting them back up I would be ok. Let's just say, the old mind ain't what she used to be. ;) Anyhoo, I hope by this fall we will have the funds to get our actual windows and we now have space to store them. All in all I would do it again. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, label them CLEARLY, or you'll have a tough time when you're ready to hang them back up. (Written from sad experience.)
Yes. Now that’s the kind of helpful video I needed. Thank you!
Yes! Thank you so much! This is the final touch I was looking for for my gazebo. Perfect!
I've been wanting to make our screened in porch a 4 season porch to increase the square footage of my tiny house and this is a great guide! Thank you for posting and I will let you know how mine turns out.
Still a relevant video years later! I had my deck screened-in two years ago and plan to use your method to help me sit out on my deck for as long as I can in the colder months.
I'm curious how long it lasted for her. If it lasted for 2 years? It would be worth it. If it lasted longer? BIG bonus! I looked through the comments to see if she had updated the success of her creation and couldn't find any comments she made about that. Did you use this method with success?
Tamara It could last forever. I went a slightly different route and used marine snaps to secure the vinyl panels to my deck. It was a lot of work in the beginning but it was worth it. In the winter, after I install my vinyl panels, I use a small propane heater and after about 30 minutes my deck is nice and toasty. The only problem I have in the winter is the deck floor being cold. I can sit on the deck for several hours before my feet get to cold. Other than that, I’m glad that I did it! Will send a pic if I can figure out how to.
I did this...It was the best thing ever. Very easy. We are on year two. I did use 40 gauge vinyl though.
pictures please
I am thinking of doing this on the porch around my front door to cut wind and snow during winter. Thank you very much for this video!
Thank you Karen, this was the best video I've seen on how I can keep the pups dry and see what they're getting up to in their outside play pen during the day in this none brilliant British weather. Since my stroke in 1998, mental blocks are a constant daily battle. I'm So, so grateful to you for explaining things clearly. Now to put it into practise... x :-)
Thanks for your kind remarks. Glad to know the video is useful.
Thank you for your tips, advice and knowledge! I've enclosed a small portion of my patio so far using your idea. More enclosing to come! Thanks again!
Glad you found it useful. Good luck the rest of the way.
I am so happy to have found this wonderful presentation! I've downsided into a +55 community and have a small balcony on the 2nd floor. Karen's instructions and video are exactly what I was hoping to find. I read the comments and believe for me and my situation the velcro is the way to go.
Now, if anyone has an idea as to how I could have it extend "past my balcony" by 12 inches all the way around the outside.......that would be awesome. I have plants on the railing and I have hanging baskets I really wanted to keep as I grow some leafy greens. I live in NE Ga in Ringgold.
The area that is open at my balcony that I wish to cover is 11 foot 7 inches across
and 7 foot 5 inches down.
There are so many wonderful helpful people with great ideas, thought someone can pass some ideas my way.
If not, I'm doing it Karen's way! ....Gosh, I've been thing about this for months wondering how to block the constant cold winds at this apartment complex on a hill.
.....It's nickname is Windy Hill!
Thank-you for this video!!
Ms Sherry
Glad you like the video, and good luck. Maybe somebody can make a useful suggestion on your extension. We're in Athens, so not too far away.
Thank you, you're just down the road a piece.
This is the most helpful video I have seen! All the other "DIY" videos I found were material ordered from a company. Aside from the bonus of saving money, I love making things myself because there is much more of a sense of accomplishment when working on projects for my little bar! Thank you so much because I was really sure where to begin on this project! ~Crystal
Love Asheville I have to find your bar we are in Marietta South Carolina 40 minutes away
Beautiful explained, May God bless you and your family.
this is a light-weight solution and very well presented by the narrator. I recommend EnclosureGuy for your heavy weather applications.
Thank you for your video as I want to do the same thing to my porch. Very good directions and simple things to buy.
Good luck with your project.
we have already seen your video...now that we moved to another house, had to watch the video again today and make our screened porch ready for colder weather:) thank you:)
Brilliant !! and thank you. I just saved a thousand dollar watching this video,
Good luck with the project.
10 years later, I found this one. Thanks, I am going to do it.
Hi. We used 20 gauge clear vinyl (fabric dot com), brown ProGaff gaffer's tape (tapebrothers), and brass grommits and deck screws from Lowe's. The main tools were scissors and a straight edge for cutting the vinyl, a hammer for the grommit kit, and a power driver for the deck screws. You'll also want a tape measure and a marker or sharpie. The gauge of the vinyl and color of the trim tape would be up to you and your local needs. Good luck.
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@Jalen Tristen Definitely, I have been using Flixzone} for since november myself :D
Doesn't it get really hot inside?
@@Anitasemp The wraps were only used during the winter.
Thanks for the kind words. Good luck with your projects.
very well explained ... thanks a lot
That's a good idea, I live in the Southeast part of the US and every year I have a mess on my screened in porch due to pollen and it's such a pain to deal with. This would definitely help me.
This was a great idea, I used it for my cargo trailer conversion for the back drop down door. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this video up
You're a great teacher. Thank you. I learned a lot.
Great tips and looks very professional. Thank you for sharing. I am looking forward to more videos. Take care.
Thank you for posting this video. I can't wait to get started.
This is nice. I was just thinking while watching her roll this out that I had seen this clear vinyl down on the rolls where I buy my table clothes. I have a small porch and was thinking of giving this a go.
Good luck with your project.
That was a fantastic presentation. Just what I was looking for to make my project. Thank you very much. Your screened porch looks professionally done.
Take a look at EZ screen it’s a track system that looks really clean and simple and you put it on the outside of the porch. Then for the screen itself I looked at invisible screen and it is fantastic. You can find all the stuff on the Internet
Wonderful idea . You did a great job !!! What is the porch roof covered with ?
At that time, the porch was roofed with polycarbonate, but was installed improperly, and has now been replaced with deck roofing.
I luv your idea. The only thing I might do to install it. Is I would use two sided tape to hang it before I put the screws to secure it. Enjoyed your video.
This is a great idea! Thank you! I may see if I can find some clear vinyl shower curtains that already have the grommets in them and add more grommets as needed to the bottom.
Hi. If we were starting today we would use industrial-strength velcro instead of the grommets. See other comments.
Thanks for the reply. How did the tape hold up? Would you use tape again to frame the vinyl or would you sew on something to frame the vinyl?
Hi. The tape has held up pretty well, but as mentioned, we would use velcro if we were starting over. We might still use tape to dress the edges, but I'm not sure of that.
@@rbraxley I would prefer hooks to mount, that way I can put up and take down easier. I think doing this over and over each year would ruin the original holes eventually. I bought rolled shades for inside to keep most thunderstorms and summer rain out. Only gets wet on edge.
@@CandycaneBeyond Interesting idea. What kind of climate do you live in?
Thank you so much for the easy instruction and variety of vids. I have many projects to do to repair/ improve my mobile home. I cannot afford to hire someone to do them, so I DIM. These teaching tools will help me get it right the first time!
Fantastic you saved my day. I thank you. Excellent video.
I put my vinyl up using the spline on the lower sections. I left screen up on top where wide roof eves protected the porch from Florida rain.Water used to flood directly onto the floor when tropical storms were torrential. The vinyl waterproofed very well. The hot sun would eventually cause the vinyl to become brittle. Replacement no big deal.
brilliant. i used the grommets only on top, creating a loop that i could put a pvc supported by a steel rod inside, across the top. curtain rod holders support that. I can manually roll the plastic windows up and tie them off (thru the grommet holes) when I want them up. they become inconspicous.
the edges are attached by stainless marine snaps , the kind where one side screws into the wood frame, and the other side is hammered into the edge of the 20 g vinyl used for the enclosure.
a radiant heater provides heat.
Sounds like a great upgrade.
What a great instructor!!!
Thanks for posting this. I paid to have someone install plastic on in my screened breezeway and it come down the next morning. Last year I tried to use clear vinyl shower curtains on a rod to enclose the screens, but it didn't work. I am going to try it again using the tape around the edges and the screws at the top like you suggested.
My vinyl panels were installed a week ago and it looks great. I used shower curtains since they already had the grommets at the top. The handy man added grommets to the bottom to hold it in place. My concern is whether the curtains will be able to survive the cold winter weather in Chicago. I purchased a small space heated for that space. I tried it last night on low and it was still very cold in my breezeway. I will have to adjust the temp. Anyone ever have the vinyl crack?
I ordered tape from the vendor you used, and their price was good and delivery was the next business day, followed up with the tracking number. Good service!
Thanks for the tutorial!
I was looking for this very project & yours turned out great.
May I ask you how your clear vinyl enclosure is holding up? I'm getting ready to do this but wonder how materials hold in weather. I live in Atlanta, Georgia. Thank you for such a wonderful and informative video!!
You may ask. The vinyl has held up pretty well, though we're about to retire the panels because we're about to do something different with the porch. We do have them up right now and they still have good clarity. We have rolled them every year for storage, but it would probably have been better to have hung them. Over time a couple of the grommets have torn out and some of the tape is a bit gummy (probably because of our storage conditions).
If we were making these today we would choose heavy duty velcro over the grommets. That would make them easier to put up and take down and would also (probably) create a tighter "seal" for the porch, though we were never going for a weather proof room.
Professionally made panels would probably last longer and store better, but would cost a whole lot more. You should get several winters of use if you do something like we did, and take care of the vinyl.
We live in Athens (Go Dawgs, beat LSU!), just down the road, so have the same weather as you.
This is an awesome cost effective way to test out the space and live with it before spending a bunch of money…This is exactly what I was looking for and you do a superb job with your videos. This made my heart happy when I found your video.
Do you mind telling us what you’re going to do next? Are you going to do glass? How did it work out in the winter time as far as heat goes were you able to sit out there some during the day or at night? Just wondering how much thermal capacity you get from the vinyl that’s all. We have a small cabin with a beautiful screen porch and it needs to work for us in the winter time as well as the summer so I’m looking at a lot of alternatives. Thank you so much in advance
@@mamasharoni Hi. Just noticed your question. It's a long story, but I'll try to make it short. We decided to put a small above-ground pool beneath the porch, so that it was flush with the deck. To do that they had to tear the porch apart (mostly), and then re-build. We decided we would use plexiglass panels for seasonal enclosure. We bought those just before the pandemic, so got lucky before the price of plexi went out the window (sorry for the pun). We bought 8x10 panels and cut each to the size of the section it was enclosing. These are held on with furring strips and deck screws. When we take them down at the end of winter we store them horizontally behind the sofa on the porch, under a sheet. The project also resulted in putting a solid roof on the porch, and we added under deck insulation, so with the panels up the deck is now much more like a room than before. I wouldn't say it's like a glassed-in room, but it's comfortable for sitting (or swimming) here in Georgia throughout the winter. Unfortunately, we neglected to make a video. Oh well.
Super helpful. Thanks!
Great ideas. After my husband died, I built a screened porch off my bedroom. It is open on three sides and I have a SpaBerry hot tub out there on concrete flooring. My dilemma has been rain blowing straight thru the porch, the cold in the winter and the awful yellow pollen in the spring. I think I can do this. Sometimes have terrible winds, though. I'm in the middle South, winters are not bad but do have some cold months. Brrrrr. Thanks so much for this idea. I had looked at ordering curtain weight canvas "tarps" but getting the different sizes cut was cost prohibitive. I could get the material and do it myself, I guess.
+lilyred
Hi. Yes, we have "yellow" season too. Hard to describe to someone who has never lived through it. Good luck with your project.
Awesome video and instructions. My only concern is the glue on the tape separating in the heat.
Great video! And, you've come up with such a tidy look. I'm going see if this will make my porch in Arizona usable this winter. Thank you for making this video - what a great help.
Excellent thanks for sharing going to go get some supplies and do the same
Thanks I just had a I call it sun room built and wanted to find some way of using it in the winter. I think you gave me just what I need. I also live in Ga. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Good luck with your project.
I found 72" wide vinyl and have 77 wide openings so I am thinking just make up the 2.5" difference on each side with wider duct tape and some 2" wood furring boards on each side attached to my log posts? What do you think? Hope to complete by Nov 2. Doesn't have to look amazing. We live in the woods where this covered porch faces west and Lake Michigan effects and wind will be greatly reduced. Plus my kids are all moved out, husband has a bad knee an don't want to shovel these porches all winter long.
Our winter weather is typically just not very severe down here, so I cannot speak with any confidence about how well this type of set-up might withstand the conditions there in the frozen north. Our porch is also in the lee of our house, so is somewhat sheltered. Obviously a large sheet of vinyl could become a sail if it caught the wind, so I'd take that into consideration if the porch is not sheltered. We only used the tape to provide a finished edge and to provide some support for the grommets. In our set-up, the tape was not acting as "connective tissue" for the material.
To answer the other question, I think our grommets were more like a foot apart.
I'm undertaking a similar project, but I opted to use snaps to hold the windows in place. Initially I was going to use turn-buttons (aka "common sense fastener"), but the cost of these proved prohibitive ($1.40 ~ $2.40 ea). It also requires a $50 tool to cut the oval holes. 100 snap studs, with wood screws, are $14. The other parts are even less. I'm using "gypsy" studs for where the window overlap. It's more work, but it solves the "what about the screw holes?" problem. I used Rochford Supply.
I love it!!! 💗 I cannot stand the nasty screens on my porch. Thinking of stripping them all out and doing this!!! Thank you for sharing your creativity and this clever DIY!!! 💗🙏🌺
And by the way....we are happily using this solution right now. Our porch is large, but one small natural gas heater from Northern tool raised the temperature 12 degrees in the porch yesterday. So instead of a room that was unusable at 58 degrees, we had a useable room at 70. If you sit nearer the heater it works to a much lower temp. We also have a stand up propane heater that in conjunction with the NG one allowed us to use the porch at New Years when it was more like 40 degrees out!
Looks so easy to do, thanks for the video!
It's 2019. This is still excellent.
Nice job! I have a heavy duty frame greenhouse we use for sitting, but have a reflective tarp over roof. The biggest problem is sun will destroy any plastic within 2 years, and if using in winter, need tightly sealed plastic/edges, which gromments wont work for that, wind goes through. I have to replace one panel of my green house, and am looking for something that has uv block in the plastic before doing the labor on this. Even outdoor fabrics get trashed by sun in 2 yrs. Again, a fabric thatcan handle sunlight, so not to replace every two years.
Fantastic video, thanks SO much for sharing!!✨
Great job! Thanks so much. I'm doing something similar, but am making wood frames to fit into the existing wood frames. Your links are really helpful. Thank you again!
That’s an excellent idea! How did that work out? I see that you did this eight years ago. I’m in South Carolina and want to do the same with my plants and have a little sunny room during the winner. The frames are brilliant!
I'd love an update...do you think the tape went mouldy? Was it warm enough? Did it last a few seasons?
Hi. We used that system for a decade, and have now retired those vinyl panels. As mentioned in other replies, starting over we would use strong velcro instead of the grommet system. I think that would have provided a better "seal" and made the annual installation and removal process easier.
The vinyl sections held their clarity and did the job for the entire time. The taped edges did become a bit gummy after several years, but that didn't diminish the efficiency of the system. We live in a mild climate, so the vinyl sections never had to do too much heavy lifting.
I can say that we would still be using that system, but decided instead to switch to plexiglass panels held in place with wooden trim. The vinyl we placed on the outside of the porch, but the plexi we put on the inside. The new system creates more of an indoor feel than did the vinyl.
We got lucky and purchased the plexi just before the pandemic, which means we got it for a good price. It might be a more expensive proposition today. Hope that helps.
@@rbraxley Thank you so much for a detailed update, that's really helpful👌
Enjoyed your video ... We put shrink plastic up EVERY ( :) ) year looks great & usually last all year if a bird doesn't decide to fly into it ... very clear , just like glass . After watching this we may try using the material's you have used , we have to throw away the shrink plastic each yr. ... Thanks again
You could also apply some double stick tape on the back side of the duct tape to help to seal it
lola johnson Interesting. How do you keep the shrink wrap up? That is, how to you fix it to the frame of the porch?
I went with shower curtain then. Old wooden shutters worked great
good job....young lady! i like the tape idea...
Woman and power tools.... Great combo... nice work...
Great instructional video. If you like this , search"How to enclose a porch with eze breeze windows." Less maintenance and you get year round use for a fraction of the cost of glass but still having the classy appearance of glass.
I had thought about sewing fabric for the grommets but this seems much easier. Thanks. I also thought about velcro but havent had good luck even with the heavy duty stuff. I have yet to find one with glue that will stick long enough or endure heavy weights. Perhaps grommets with velcro added to give a seal.
I may even check for magnetic strips as well just to seal out the air.
Good video wish I would have watched this before putting up tarps for the winter here in Wisconsin. Tarps, metal wires and the like is energy draining and time consuming since the deck/porch is half enclosed/open and the other half is exposed.
What a beautiful job and video. Kudos.
Great porch covers.
Can you continually screw and unscrew these in and out every year? I'm guessing the answer is no, but am not sure what the alternative would be.
The screws stay in place, and the grommets are slipped on and off at the appropriate times of year. The vinyl does shrink while in storage, so a hair dryer comes in handy to make the panels more pliable. If we were re-doing the project, we would probably use heavy duty velcro instead of the grommet system.
@@rbraxley Thank you very much. I appreciate the reply.
Hi Quigley. Cannot really answer your question. We live in the Deep South, so we don't bother to heat the porch, though we can bring out a couple of ceramic heaters for "spot" heating on colder days. I can say the the vinyl panels did have a noticeable effect on keeping the porch warmer, but we're just not faced with very many really cold days. If it's really cold (by our standards) we just chicken out, but this did allow us to use the porch throughout the winter. Good luck.
Hi! Where we live in Va. the wind is very high. Our porch does not have screens on it. Do you think we could still do it? I am wanting something for the winter to enclose the porch from the wind. I have a dog that has to go out and I would like to stay as warm as we can. Your thought please! Thank you!!! Loved your porch!!!
This is only a guess on my part, but I think you'd probably be OK. With our particular set-up, the porch sits on the inside of an "L" corner of the house, so it's blocked from the wind in two directions.
You may have noticed in other comments that we would switch from the grommets to full velcro (industrial) for attaching the panels if we were starting the project today. I think velcro would provide an even stronger hold against the wind than would the grommets over screw heads, and would also be more air tight.
We love the porch too--it's a great place to spend time.
Nice video.. What about the maintenance of vynil plastic ?? Do they turn yellow after few years ?
Hi Kurt. Actually, the panels have held up well, though we have lost a couple of the grommets, which we'll "patch" when we re-hang in a couple of weeks. While we do get below 40 degrees, we don't get much hard cold here. Interesting idea about the velcro.
You recommend gaff tape over duct tape, but gaff tape usually has a fabric backing compared to the vinyl backing off duct tape. Would the vinyl backing be better at resisting mold due to getting wet? How has the gaff tape held up over the years since doing this?
It's held up reasonably well, though no longer looks brand new. Duct tape would work just as well, but I'm not sure if it's available in as many colors. (Maybe it is.) As mentioned in other comments, we would go with velcro if starting over today, and maybe not use the tape at all.
I really like the way they look! I have had AWFUL luck with diy grommet projects in the past so I'm glad to hear the velcro idea. Thank you for such a great video! You explain everything so well and I love that you tell us where to find the materials that you used. I love your porch. Does anyone have any tips on the best place/way to get an outdoor rug that will hold up and not cost a fortune?
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. The thing that concerns me is making holes in the wood of the outside of the deck. When you take it down, are there visible holes from the desk screws? Otherwise, great job to you.
Good point Kim. Honestly, we just left the deck screws in place. In fact, we're about to re-hang the vinyl pieces for the upcoming winter.
I'm curious how it lasted through the winter and winds - I have a similar porch and I want it enclosed for my dog. We get high winds here in March tough - I live in Ajax, Ontario
@@LauraLM Hi. We never had a problem with the wind, but our porch is fairly well sheltered. This approach worked well for our mild winters, but I'm not sure how it'll handle your northern climate. Good luck.
Thank you im in Florida & yes it does get " cold" here as well. Miss the snow from up north at holiday time, just not working in it. Great INEXPENSIVE way to " winterize a screen porch w/o having to invest in glass or plexiglass. The only thing i might change is using some type of small hooks instead of deck screws for easy removal. The vinyl looks very elegant the way you taped it with gromets.
Hi. Agreed. The approach we took works well for our mild climate, but don't think it would make much difference in a really cold region.
Hello, I had this idea for recovering a 10x20 pop up gazebo. The finish was beautiful and I was able to make it water tight with the gorrila glue and some silicone. My only caution is that this material is not for what we used it for. With that being said it did not last long for me 1 year tops. The best material is the vinyl used for marine enclosures. Their material has uv resistance and has water repellent as well. It is very expensive and lasts years.
You Go Girl!!! Nice job 👍
Where can I buy 10 feet by 10 feet vinyl ?
Good job lady thanks
Hello. As mentioned elsewhere, we live in the Deep South, so we're not really faced with serious cold. If we are, we hibernate. The vinyl wraps do keep the porch warmer that it would be otherwise, so we consider them a success.
I think this is brilliant!
I like it more for the keeping bugs out not the cold, but that's just me.
I'm currently enclosing my back porch with this method. It is raining while I'm putting the panels up and I am finding the pro gaffers tape adhesive and coloring is coming off on my hands. I hope that it does not run onto the vinyl during the year. The Gaffers tape is water-resistant but obviously it is not waterproof. I was planning on putting some Velcro on it also but now I don't think it's going to stick. Will probably have to sew the velcro onto the Gaffers tape and vinyl trim. I checked on getting ezy Breeze Windows. It appears they run about $350 a piece on average.
Our tape never ran during its many years of service. Good luck with your project.
Nice video :)
I noticed a couple things that my help some people. Always work on a hard surface. Often measurements are out a tiny bit because of padding. It's also way easier to hammer in those grommets. Don't sit or move around on top of your product, you'll stretch and dimple the vinyl. I think I'm going to make 2 frames from lathe, glue and staple the vinyl between. I want to make screen panels and clear panels for different weather. I've seem online, that rolls of greenhouse grade poly (clear) are available in 20"x200" rolls for around $50. Our local greenhouses aren't open this time of year here in BC.
Apparently birds still hit the panels (more seem to survive than glass) and cats like to scratch around the bottom fyi
Thank you for making this video!
You're welcome.
Like the duct tape and grommet idea. Thanks!
Hi, around how much warmer does this keep the patio? maybe 30 degrees? I'm thinking about using this for my patio to make a green house.
We've never tried to compare the temp on the wrapped porch vs. the outside , so I really couldn't say. As mentioned before, we're in the deep South, so really low temps are rare. I can tell you that we bring plants in when we've got a freeze warning, and it's done the job. Greenhouse? Maybe not. The roof on our porch is transluscent, but not clear. I think a clear roof would pass a lot more solar energy and create a better environment for starting plants and cuttings. Good Luck.
Wondering would you have changed anything.
Ah, Pro-gaffe! Gaffer's tape. I'm in the business (entertainment) and this is our go to product.
How well does this work to keep the area warm? Does it still cost a lot to heat this as an extra room during the winter?
Thank you so much!
This is such a good idea does the vinyl get a little foggy sometimes with you know the humidity and the heat?
We did not tend to see that problem. Can't say it never happened, but generally not.
Thank you for the great idea and instructions!
Hi. I think the spikey part of the grommet should go down into the fabric. The advantage of the spikes over the smooth is that the spikes make the grommet less likely to slip out of place under load. Look carefully. The set grommet should have the convex or raised surface to the outside on both sides. You have no choice with the 1/2 that goes through the fabric but it is up to the installer to assure the same on the top side. I am sorry if some comment has already pointed this out. I really like the use of Gaffers tape around the edges. Sooooo much easier than sewing fabric around. Fabric tape should hold up well in the weather too. Here is a good tutorial on grommets: ua-cam.com/video/VW0oCSNZ4fA/v-deo.html
how did it end up working on keeping the heat inside the patio. We are thinking of doing the same thing.