Bug Fables Medals Tier List (v1.2 Medals)

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Hey everyone, welcome to my Bug Fables Medals Tier List where we rank Bug Fables medals. We'll be talking about medals that were added in the game's 5-year anniversary patch!
    It has been years since the last installment of this series and my opinions on previous medals will be different. Will I redo that old tier list however? Probably not.
    Ambusher
    Bad Dreams
    Bait Hook
    Bomb Master
    Helper Boost
    Holo Cloak
    Item Recycler
    Last Wind
    Pip Finder
    Royal Calling
    We Owe Ya!

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  • @jokerkirby7051
    @jokerkirby7051 2 місяці тому +32

    5:40 hard numbers for bait hook:
    Odds for party member in front being targetted is 15/25. With bait hook, it’s raised to 21/25.
    Party member not in the front being targetted is 5/25. With bait hook, it’s raised to 9/25.
    With bait hook and leaf cloak both equipped on the same bug, bait hook is completely ignored. With them equipped on separate bugs, leaf cloak is completely ignored.
    Overall, bait hook is really good with bubble shield lite on the party member in front, because the chance someone else gets targetted happens once every blue moon. And I’d rather spend one turn every 5 rounds to heal then spend 1 turn every round to taunt when my other party members can afford to take one hit.

    • @celestialspark5697
      @celestialspark5697 2 місяці тому +3

      I think this is definitely solid reasoning, and the medal is definitely a useful and fairly priced effect. I will, however, offer the counterpoint that Deep Taunt does not have this RNG element and is still a pretty efficient action when combined with multihit moves (often doing an effective 4 to 10 damage in itself without contributing to attacker fatigue), plus taunting works with Back Support. Of course, Deep Taunt is also -1 defense. There are also different questions to answer regarding using the +1 front damage bonus or Favorite One medal well with Bait Hook, since things will get more complicated than "Kabbu in back, attacker in front". I feel the options are close enough in value to make it an actually interesting problem to think about, which is pretty cool.

    • @ShiningSilvally
      @ShiningSilvally Місяць тому

      Wow, seriously? Leaf Cloak is ignored, if it and Bait Hook are equipped to 2 members of Team Snakemouth? Huh. Well, that saves me an MP Slot. Looks like my next RUIGEE Playthrough of the game is going to have less focus on that Medal! Thanks!

  • @camwyn256
    @camwyn256 Місяць тому +3

    I just started playing Bug Fables again this week. I didn't know there was an update, until I saw some very strange medals I've never seen before.
    Then I found out about the update.
    Now, here I am. Stoked to see new Bug Fables content right when I'm playing it again

  • @ultimaterecoil1136
    @ultimaterecoil1136 2 місяці тому +34

    I think you slightly undervalued helper boost for one very simple reason. If chompy doesn’t damage a target they can’t get tp when they bite them with the tp restoring ribbon. In situations where it brings chompy’s damage up to one it’s at least worth a moment of consideration. I’d at least put it over bad dreams for this

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +10

      @@ultimaterecoil1136 Interesting. I never thought about that, actually.

    • @ShiningSilvally
      @ShiningSilvally Місяць тому

      Truth be told, when I saw that being the case for the Team Ribbon, I've been using it a lot more often! I've been using nothing but the Pretty Ribbon for months. I'm happy to see a reason to use the Team Ribbon, again.

  • @toastappreciator2691
    @toastappreciator2691 23 дні тому +1

    Never thought I’d see the day bug fables would just show up in my timeline especially since it’s been over a year since I’ve touched it. Happy to see this.

  • @RedPandaSmash
    @RedPandaSmash 2 місяці тому +12

    Bad dreams came in handy when I started my hardest mystery run yesterday. Really helped to both kill and prevent aria from spawning Venus bud.

  • @TaroTheBee
    @TaroTheBee 2 місяці тому +21

    last wind my beloved

  • @1ndiebird
    @1ndiebird 2 місяці тому +16

    I hope they balance all of the new medals, not just last wind. I'm just so happy this game is receiving love!

    • @celestialspark5697
      @celestialspark5697 2 місяці тому +8

      I'd personally like for We Owe You to scale directly in power with either number of sidequests completed or current chapter; either way would be thematically appropriate, right? And yeah, this game just keeps on giving; never expected either of the last two large updates.

  • @pikachu-uk1bg
    @pikachu-uk1bg 2 місяці тому +10

    There is is!
    Fun watch! Now.. to see where Last wind goes after the nerf... when it comes! Also a tier list on the helpers of the We owe Ya! Medal?
    Yes please. Holo-cloak S-tier Yes, definitely there. Everything in the cave is trials and the B.O.S.S system *must* be a hologram!

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 2 місяці тому +6

    Wish some of the metals were available sooner in the base game They would make the game much more fun
    Poison meta is extremely fun and helper badge looks like a lot of fun.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +2

      @ivanbluecool They would be. Though we also have Last Wind which might be the most fun medal in the whole game rn.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 2 місяці тому +1

      @PhantomAarantula yeah that one is looking to be fun.

  • @PerfectKirby
    @PerfectKirby 2 місяці тому +9

    Honestly if you can’t work around the downsides of We Owe Ya, that’s a skill issue as far as I’m concerned. I love this medal and I got so much use out of it

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +2

      @@PerfectKirby In a game as RNG heavy as Bug Fables, working around bad situations is the name of the game. Doesn't change the fact that there are more consistent options that are cheaper.

    • @PerfectKirby
      @PerfectKirby 2 місяці тому +2

      Still kind of ridiculous to give it an F rank considering how useful it can be. And most fights where your ally even matters has a save crystal right before, so you can easily and quickly reroll them lol

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@PerfectKirby With all due respect, you're more than welcome to make your own tier list.

    • @miserirken
      @miserirken Місяць тому +1

      Counterpoint: Mon.

  • @shyblookster137
    @shyblookster137 2 місяці тому +5

    I agree holo cloak is the best medal in the game now

  • @thehawkturnal4903
    @thehawkturnal4903 Місяць тому

    I didn’t even know about this update until I played again in mystery and got royal calling in chapter 3

  • @Tailsbot98761
    @Tailsbot98761 2 місяці тому +4

    I think helper boost would be great for me actually, I relied on my helpers a lot for team snakemouth ex, and extra damage from chompy and Maki wouls have been amazing

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +1

      To be fair, I may have undervalued that one. I never did consider how Chompy can more reliably restore TP with the Team Ribbon if you get it. Probably because it'd mean completing the Cave of Trials.

  • @CosmoAnimator
    @CosmoAnimator Місяць тому

    i personally found a great use for both the bomb master and item recycler medals, by filling my inventory with all cherry bombs and giving all turns to the bug with the medals, and doings tons of damage, and each recycler activation was great (not reliable, but still good) because it added quite a bit more damage each time, though that could just also be throwing 15 cherry bombs being good either way

  • @deringjosuegarcia1531
    @deringjosuegarcia1531 2 місяці тому +8

    Forgive me if I'm wrong but, isn't Bomb Master amazing if you find it early on a MYSTERY? run

    • @GHNeko
      @GHNeko 2 місяці тому +7

      Yeah I think some of these medals have way more value in mystery runs and the lack of conversation about that is unfortunate. Imagine getting the helper medal within the first 5 badges. You'd get so much milage out of it.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +7

      @deringjosuegarcia1531 I really don't think Mystery is worth addressing in videos like this. Sure, Bomb Master would be nice if you got it in Chapter 2 or something, but it's entirely impractical to rate medals based on a metric like that unless you predetermined when the medal would even appear. And that'd make the mystery aspect of mystery a moot point.

    • @deringjosuegarcia1531
      @deringjosuegarcia1531 2 місяці тому +5

      @@PhantomAarantula And I agree to that, I just think that Bomb Master's consistently good effect will make it an amazing find if it just so happens to appear earlier than Chapter 6.

  • @Iamverykarpy
    @Iamverykarpy 2 місяці тому

    i was about to get upset at royal calling but then i realized i only got to use these medals in a post game setting against tsm so availability didnt matter lmao, i found a lot of success with it against tsm though, along with helper boost

  • @MainTopmastStaysail
    @MainTopmastStaysail 2 місяці тому +2

    Last Stand could be fine with the effect as-is, it just can't cost so little MP. When they nerf it I hope that's what they do.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +3

      If it has to be nerfed, I can agree with making the MP cost more. I think its effect actually warrants being 8 MP, lol

  • @energy538
    @energy538 2 місяці тому +1

    These medals do seem pretty fun at least, even if they're mostly not stellar. Might try a Ruigee+Mystery run to try and find some of them at a more useful point in the game.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому

      @@energy538 Lemme know how that goes. Sounds like fun on a bun

  • @cammac6243
    @cammac6243 2 місяці тому

    I think helper boost deserves a bit more credit since it’s almost like a cheaper antlion jaw but otherwise great list 👍 plz buff item recycler and bomb master those would be a fun combo if it was more reliable

  • @thepuppet4321
    @thepuppet4321 2 місяці тому +2

    I was just watching the previous tier list videos, and now this comes out. Wow.

  • @ismayonnaiseaninstrument8688
    @ismayonnaiseaninstrument8688 2 місяці тому

    I can't believe I'm viewer number 889!

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +1

      @@ismayonnaiseaninstrument8688 And I love YOU, random citizen! - Metro Man

  • @ShiningSilvally
    @ShiningSilvally Місяць тому

    Funny thing, the Switch version is on V. 1.20.1, and I'm not sure on whether or not that was a Day 1 Patch(I can't find any patch notes, anywhere), but I haven't seen Last Wind get nerfed, just yet. Personally, I'm hoping that it doesn't get nerfed TOO much. Maybe make it have the effect for 3 turns, and then it stops? That'd be fine. Or maybe lower the HP necessity to 2 HP or less? Still, I'm not a developer, & I'm not asking for miracles, either.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  Місяць тому

      @ShiningSilvally I don't think that's any different than from steam's current version beyond the number being different. And yeah if Last Wind gets nerfed into the ground, it'd be tragic.

    • @ShiningSilvally
      @ShiningSilvally Місяць тому

      ​​​​@@PhantomAarantulaI agree. Imo, the best thing that I can see happen to it, is only allowing the additional turn to be given, at 1HP. Truth be told, that'd make Poison strats a lot more approachable. It kinda makes my asking you for your Everlasting Leif Strat look more vapid, huh? Especially after the Team Snakemouth super boss. 😅

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  Місяць тому +1

      @@ShiningSilvally Oh definitely

    • @ShiningSilvally
      @ShiningSilvally Місяць тому

      ​@@PhantomAarantula I just thought of a possible easy-to-avoid nerf: Higher MP Cost. If they give it the same as Front Support, that'd be a lot more digestable, for me. I'm mainly a RUIGEE Mode player. That said, I'm certain that it'd be nerfed further than that. A man can dream, though.......

  • @Someanimateddrawing
    @Someanimateddrawing 2 місяці тому

    A noob will say bug me off is the best
    A tryhard will say hard mode is best
    Most people say last wind is best
    And I agree with most people

  • @jonathanrussell6525
    @jonathanrussell6525 2 місяці тому

    We owe ya sounds fun at least.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому +1

      It's a very fun medal. As negative as I was when talking about it, my tier list shouldn't be one to turn people off from experimenting with it.

  • @bookbasedgaming1022
    @bookbasedgaming1022 2 місяці тому +1

    I've noticed Helper Boost doesn't buff Chompy's damage output at all in play-testing, meaning it is arguably even more useless than what you describe.

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому

      This is incorrect.

    • @bookbasedgaming1022
      @bookbasedgaming1022 2 місяці тому

      @@PhantomAarantula In that case, do you or anybody in comments happen to know what the hard numbers are on the damage output increase for Chompy? (I'm curious as to what the scaling is)

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому

      @@bookbasedgaming1022 I mean in the above video, the damage Chompy was doing checked out (to me at least). But if you'd like more hard evidence of that, I don't believe I'm able to provide that beyond that even on HARDEST, Chompy's max damage with the Pretty Ribbon against a 0 defense enemy is 4. She's only able to do 5 because Helper Boost works for her bite.

    • @bookbasedgaming1022
      @bookbasedgaming1022 2 місяці тому

      @@PhantomAarantula Ohh, gotcha; my bad (I didn't see that frame of the video where she did 5 nor realize this was a HARDEST save file you were showcasing offhand so I was getting confused at first)

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому

      @bookbasedgaming1022 Yeah, most of the footage was on regular Hard Mode. But that last clip was on HARDEST

  • @Noubmasterpro
    @Noubmasterpro 2 місяці тому +1

    Now give us a MYSTERY? tierlist with 1.2

  • @JordanSnakemouth
    @JordanSnakemouth Місяць тому

    Could you update your tierlist template on tiermaker? I've been wanting to update my tierlist. :]

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  Місяць тому

      I don't have a medals template on tiermaker, sorry to say. I just chroma'd the new medals from gameplay for this video.

  • @drago252
    @drago252 2 місяці тому

    ngl if I had a medal for a random ally to appear so it can to extra damage guaranteed then its pretty good
    only games I can think that does this similarly is Color Splash’s enemy cards and Block Tales Call cards

    • @PhantomAarantula
      @PhantomAarantula  2 місяці тому

      @drago252 At worst, it's still a really fun medal and you can always retry bosses. And at best, there are definitely challenges that open up to being possible thanks to it.

    • @deringjosuegarcia1531
      @deringjosuegarcia1531 2 місяці тому

      Fun fact that I just found out 1 hour ago, We owe ya does literally nothing pre-chapter 3,